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On November 22 1963, johnFitzgerald Kennedy, the 35th,
President of the United Stateswas on a trip in Dallas, Texas
to meet with state leaders. Amotorcade was established in
routes chosen to give thepresident maximum exposure to
the crowds. He traveled and anopen top limousine joining him
or his wife, Jacqueline, theTexas Governor john Connolly and
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Connolly's wife, Nellie in the1960 presidential election,
Kennedy barely won Texas. He mayhave expected a less welcoming
crowd, but the crowds were soelectric. It prompted Nellie
Connelly to turn around andcomment, Mr. President, you
can't say Dallas doesn't loveyou. Kennedy replied. No, you
certainly can't. These would behis final words. The limousine
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would turn onto Elm Street andpass the Texas School depository
as gunshots would be fired,striking the president and
ending his life. The officialnarrative states that Lee Harvey
Oswald was the shooter and actedalone. But here's the thing.
Witness testimonies, therecruiter film. And an
investigation by the WarrenCommission would spark more
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questions and answers, leadingmany to question whether Oswald
really was the culprit. But ifit wasn't Oswald, then who was
it? And why would if I were totell you, I know who killed
Kennedy? And I know why. And itinvolves UFOs. You're listening
to conspiracy, season one, JFK.
What will you believe?
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A few years ago, I was onlinereading various news articles
when I came upon one thatbriefly mentioned the JFK
assassination. It talked abouthow there were some people who
believed his death involved aconspiracy to keep UFOs hidden
from the public. I rememberthinking Wow, that's
interesting, and also hilarious.
It sounded more like an ancientaliens episode than a credible
argument. Little did I know itwould send me spiraling down the
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rabbit hole, eventuallyconcluding, there might be
something to this wildconspiracy theory. And everyone
loves a good conspiracy theoryright? it sparks the imagination
and creates that open ending.
Well, what if, when most hearthe word conspiracy, they
immediately associate the termwith conspiracy theories. There
can be a mark of crazinessassigned to any serious
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conversation on the matter.
A conspiracy is a secret plan bya group to do something unlawful
or harmful. And let's be honest,that happens. We all know about
911 Yep.
conspiracy.
Here are a few other historicalconspiracies you may or may not
have heard about.
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The kattiline conspiracy,a plot by a Roman senator to
start an uprising against theRepublic. The Gunpowder Plot
disgruntled Catholics scheme toassassinate King James the first
and install a puppet, the king'sdaughter, the July 20 plot,
German officers plot to killHitler and staged a coup against
the Nazi high command. You maybetter know this conspiracy as
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Operation Valkyrie, and ofcourse, the assassination of
Abraham Lincoln. Sinceconspiracies are real, that
should mean a conspiracy theorywith supportive evidence should
at the very least be considered.
Over the course of the season, Iwill be offering many incredible
claims and I'll be presenting acase which are linked together
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by historical events, and allthe demonstrate of evidence I've
gathered. To see the show notesand supporting documents, please
visit Aurora Boris inc.com.
There you can find and read foryourself everything that I have,
and then decide what to believe.
That's Aurora Boris inc.com Oh,you are Oh BROSI nk.com. To
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understand this case, we have togo back to 1941 into the young
john F. Kennedy. The events thatfollow are extremely important
because they parallel Kennedy'smilitary and political career.
They offer insight into whatinformation Kennedy may or may
not have known. And theinformation he definitely did
now. It's all connected. In1941, Kennedy was beginning his
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military service and the USNavy. He was just commissioned
and Ensign and assigned to thestaff of Naval Intelligence in
DC. He would be responsible forcollecting intelligence reports
from overseas. This assignmentis critical to the important
events that would follow. Itplaces him at the center of US
intelligence and in a positionthat's close to James Forrestal,
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starting in 1940. JamesForrestal was Undersecretary of
the Navy and would eventually beappointed Secretary of the Navy
probably The death of hissuperior Frank Knox in 1944.
First of all would serve in thatposition until 1947. During
those seven years, he was aleader at the highest levels,
and at the forefront of allcritical decisions being made
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during World War Two, and thepost war efforts. forestall was
a close family friend and aconfidant of Joseph Kennedy. JFK
is well known and powerfulfather, forestall would become
close to JFK and over the yearswould attempt to recruit him to
his staff. Kennedy's militaryposition and personal
relationship with forestallwould subject him to classified
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information and created a solidfoundation with many contacts in
the US intelligence community.
World War Two was ravagingEurope and the US had just
entered the war when a strangeevent occurred between February
23 and February 25 1942, lessthan three months after the
Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor,and after the US officially
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interval too. There was anincident that occurred over Los
Angeles and to this day hasnever been properly explained.
Around 7:15pm on the 23rd, aJapanese submarine surface off
the coast of Santa Barbara,California. It attacks the
Elwood oilfield, with the damagewas only about $500 and there
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were zero injuries. The nextday, Naval Intelligence issued a
warning that an attack could beexpected.
The publicstarted to panic expecting the
Japanese to storm the beaches atany moment. What happened next
is still talked about today. Andquite frankly, it's pretty
strange. In the book series, theArmy Air Forces and World War
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Two published by the Office ofAir Force history in 1983. What
happened next is describedduring the night of the 24th and
25th of February 1942. Onidentified objects caused a
succession of alerts in SouthernCalifornia rays Ours picked up
unidentified targets 120 mileswest of Los Angeles. anti
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aircraft batteries were alertedat zero to 15 and were put on
green alert, ready to fire a fewminutes later. The ATF kept its
pursuit planes on the ground,preferring to await indications
of the scale and direction ofany attack before committing its
limited fighter force. Radarstracks the approaching target to
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within a few miles off thecoast. And as zero to 21. The
regional controller ordered ablackout there after the
Information Center was floodedwith reports of enemy planes.
Even though the mysteriousobject tracked in from the sea
and seems to have vanished. Atzero to 43 planes were reported
near Long Beach and a fewminutes later, a coast artillery
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Colonel spotted about 25 planesat 12,000 feet over Los Angeles.
At 0306,a balloon carrying a red flare
we've seen over Santa Monicafour batteries of anti aircraft
artillery open fire, whereuponthe air over Los Angeles erupted
like a volcano. These mysteriousforces drops no bombs and
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despite the fact that 1400rounds of anti aircraft
ammunition were directed againstthem, suffered no losses. There
were reports that four enemyplanes had been shot down, and
one was supposed to have landedin flames at a Hollywood
intersection. residence in a 40mile arc along the coast watch
from hills or rooftops as theplay of guns and search lights
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provided the first real drama ofthe war for civilians of the
mainland. At 07 21 am the orderof all clear was given. Within
hours the Secretary of the NavyFrank Knox released a statement
informing the nation that theincident was a false alarm. He
claimed that the entire incidentwas due to anxiety and Warner's
in contradiction to SecretaryKnox's statement. Secretary of
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War Henry Stimson stated theanswer It was real and offered
these two theories. Either theywere commercial planes operated
by an enemy from secret fieldsin California or Mexico, or they
were light planes launched fromJapanese submarines. The Army
and Navy is conflictingexplanations led the New York
Times to release an editorial onthe 20th of February. They
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expressed the belief that themore the incident was studied,
the more incredible it became.
And if the batteries were firingon nothing at all, as Secretary
Knox implies, it is a sign ofexpensive incompetence and
jitters. If the batteries werefiring on real plans, some of
them as low as 9000 feet asSecretary Stenson declares, why
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were they completelyineffective? Why did no American
plans go up to engage them oreven to identify them? The real
question remains where UFOstruly present. If there were did
any get shot down a fewdocuments add clarity to these
questions in February 26 1942document from General George
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Marshall to President Rooseveltgives this preliminary report.
The following is the informationwe have from GHQ at this moment
regarding the air alarm over LosAngeles of yesterday morning,
from details available at thishour. identified airplanes,
other than American army or Navyplanes were probably over Los
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Angeles, and were fired on byelements of the 37th California
brigade. between 312 and (10:26):
15am.
These units expended 1400 roundsof ammunition. As many as 15
airplanes may have beeninvolved, flying at various
speeds and officially reportedas being very slow as much as
2000 miles per hour, and atelevations from 9000 to 18,000
feet. No bombs were dropped. Nocasualties among our troops. No
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planes were shot down. NoAmerican army or Navy planes
were inaction. This documentclaims No plans are shut down.
But another leaked document fromMarshall to Roosevelt dated The
following month in Marchstates different.
Regarding the air raid over LosAngeles, it was learned by army
g to the rear admiral AndersonNaval Intelligence has informed
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the War Department of a navalrecovery of an identified
airplane off the coast ofCalifornia with no bearing on
conventional explanation.
Further, it has been revealedthat the Army Air Corps has also
recovered a similar craft in theSan Bernardino mountains east of
Los Angeles, which cannot beidentified as conventional
aircraft. This headquarters hascome to the determination that
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the mystery airplanes are infact not earthly. And according
to secret intelligence sources,they are in all probability of
interplanetary origin. Accordingto these documents, not only
were there unidentified flyingobjects, but at least two were
recovered, one by the Navy andone by the army. These documents
are supported by J. Edgar Hooverand handwritten notes We must
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insist upon full access to discsrecovered, for instance, in the
LA case the army grabbed it andwould not let us have it for
cursory examination. What didKennedy know about this
recovered craft? He was assignedto Naval Intelligence at the
time? Did he find out the truthfrom forest all? First of all,
would surely have knownconsidering his position in the
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Navy. And the fact that AdmiralWalter Anderson mentioned
earlier in one of the memos, wasthe previous director of Naval
Intelligence. He would haveinformed his bosses Frank Knox
and James Forrestal have anyrecovered craft. If you years
later in the summer of 1945,James Forrestal was now
Secretary of the Navy andtraveled to post war Europe to
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inspect the damage caused byWorld War Two. Germany had
fallen and the Alliedgovernments were attempting to
pick up the pieces. PresidentRoosevelt suddenly died from a
cerebral hemorrhage back inApril, and Vice President Harry
Truman was sworn in as the newcommander in chief He would rely
on the advice from forestall andother senior leaders on how to
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proceed post war. Other thaninspecting the damage to
European infrastructure,forestall was also there to
inspect and assess the advancedtechnologies and programs from
Germany. The Germans were knownfor their advanced rocketry,
most notably the v1 and v2rockets that were used against
Great Britain. The US had greatinterest in these technologies
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and after uncovering otheradvancements made by the Germans
a secret program calledOperation overcast, later
renamed and best known becauseOperation Paperclip was
implemented, the program wouldrecruit and repatriate over 1600
German scientists, bringing themto the US and integrating them
into us programs. The mostfamous of these is Verner von
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Braun, he helped NASA create theApollo program and the rockets
that sent man to the moon havethe technological advancements
discovered by US forces. Mostwere surprised to find an
advanced aviation program theformer CIA Virgil Armstrong had
this to say. We know that inearly parts of the war, there
were certain factions of theAllied forces that did not
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believe Hitler had a secretweapon. And it wasn't until the
Americans made much emphasis ofthis, that they began to look at
it seriously, and indeed diddiscover that Hitler not only
had a secret weapon, he had whatwe would call today, a UFO or
spacecraft. supporting thisclaim is the former director of
Project bluebook Captain Edwardrebel. He says this,
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when World War Two ended, theGermans had several radical
types of aircraft and guidedmissiles under development. The
majority were in the mostpreliminary stages, but they
were the only known craft thatcould even approach the
performance of objects reportedto UFO observers. Eisenhower was
Supreme Allied Commander ofEurope at the time and would
certainly know of any advancedtechnologies discovered. It is
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known that he was also presentin Europe at the time. First, I
was there with Kennedy. Kennedywould meet Eisenhower in
Germany, writing about in hisdiary, later being published as
prelude to leadership,the trip with forestall is
significant because it putsKennedy in front of high profile
leaders and offers anopportunity to see what was
discovered in Germany. Theimportance of this visit cannot
be understated. Kennedy hadrecently retired from the
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military and forestall wastrying to recruit Kennedy to
staff. Kennedy would refuse anddecide to run for office in the
House of Representatives,Kennedy would be subjected to
classified Intel and hispresence with forestall would
tell everyone he met on the tripthat he was a man who could be
trusted, something he could useto his benefit in the political
arena. Did Kennedy see anythingthat would remind him of the
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battle over Los Angeles? Whatdid forest all tell him on the
trip? What secret technologiesdid Kennedy witness did this
trip have any bearing on hisinterest in UFOs later in life
in 1946, Kennedy was successfulin his bid to get elected to
Congress. He was in his firstterm for less than seven months,
when arguably one of The mostwell known events in modern
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history, an event rivaling hisown assassination occurred on
July 2 1947. Mac Brazil is onhis farm about 75 miles from
Roswell, New Mexico. When hehears a loud explosion, he would
wait until the following morningto investigate, and to his
surprise finds the wreckagesite. He waits until July 7,
before reporting what he findsto the local sheriff, who then
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notifies Roswell Army Airfield.
This has always puzzled me. Whywould he wait a full three days
before notifying authorities? Ihave looked into this and have
never found a satisfactoryanswer. If anything, I've only
found conflicting statements. Myassumption is that Brazil
expected someone to show upmaking inquiries, and when that
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never happened, he took action.
Once the Roswell airfield wasnotified, it sent two military
officers to investigate and thearmy authorizes a press release
stating that they had recovereda crashed flying disc. Now at
the time, the Roswell base hasHave the only operational
nuclear bomber wing, making itone of the most secure places on
the planet. Base personnel werehighly trained, something you
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would expect on such animportant military site. The day
after the press release, thearmy made a correction stating
they made a mistake and thecrash was not a flying disc, but
a crashed weather balloon. Nowremember, these are highly
trained individualswho are responsible
for the only operational nuclearbomber wing. This kind of
mistake would certainly make mequestion everything should our
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trust in those operating such animportant military base be
placed elsewhere. After theArmy's correction, any interest
by the public faded believingthe whole incident was only over
a crashed weather balloon?
Roswell would become a distantmemory until 1978 when major
Jesse Marcel one of the twooriginal military officers who
conducted the initial Brazilfarm investigation,
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contacts Stanton Friedman,correcting the official
narrative to Friedman. Marcelwould allege the crash debris
was nothing we had ever seenbefore. Expanding he claimed the
debris appeared unearthly,and add hieroglyphic writing.
It was not an aircraft of anykind that I am
sure of. We didn't know what itwas. It was nothing made on this
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earth. Another whistleblowerLieutenant Walter out. The
Public Affairs Officer for theRoswell Army Airfield at the
time, would put his testimony topaper and an affidavit and have
it notarized in 2002. Itwouldn't be published until
2007. authorized to be releasedafter his death. He passed away
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in December of 2005.
Some of the startling claims outmake are these.
There was a staff meeting on themorning of July 8, on how to
handle the situation. There wereactually two crash sites, the
public only knowing about theone on Mac results farm. The
second was about 40 miles northof Roswell and was the more
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important of the two. directlyfrom the affidavit. It says One
of the main concerns discussedat the meeting was whether we
should go public or not with thediscovery. General Ramy proposed
a plan, which I believedoriginated from his bosses at
the Pentagon. Attention neededto be diverted from the more
important site north of townby acknowledging the other site
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map results farm to manycivilians were already involved
and the press already wasinformed how it alleges that he
was instructed by the Roswellbase commander to dictate a
press release that the army hadrecovered a flying disc. Later,
General Raimi retracted theflying disc story to create
confusion and mitigate anyfurther investigations from the
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public or press.
It also kept any attention awayfrom the second site.
Major Marcel would be ordered byRaimi to travel to Fort Worth
and present the alleged wreckagematerial to the media.
This was done to bolster Amy'sclaim that it was only a crashed
balloon, and it worked. Walterout also claims in his affidavit
that he was taken by the basecommand to one of the hangars
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housing the actual wreckagematerial, starting at item 12 in
his affidavit he claims beforeleaving the base, Colonel
Blanchard took me personally tobuild an ad for a b 29 hangar
located on the east side of thetarmac.
Upon first approaching thebuilding,
I observed that it was underheavy guard both outside and
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inside. Once inside, I waspermitted from a safe distance
to first observe the object justrecovered north of town. It was
approximately 12 to 15 feet inlength, not quite as wide, about
six feet high and more of an eggshape. lighting was poor but its
surface did appear metallic, nowindows, portholes, wings tell
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section or landing gear visible.
Also from a distance, I was ableto see a couple of bodies under
a canvas Terrapin. Only theheads extended beyond the
covering and I was not able tomake out any features.
The heads did appear larger thannormal
and the contour of the cane Overthe body's suggested the size of
a 10 year old child. At a laterdate and Blanchard's office he
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would extend his arm about fourfeet above the floor to indicate
the height. An importantrevelation is that how believe
the Pentagon was directlyinvolved. leaked classified
documents corroborate how andrevealed that the senior
military official involved withthe alleged cover up was none
other than the Army Chief ofStaff.
General Dwight D. Eisenhower,he was appointed the US Army
Chief of Staff on November19 1945, after serving as the
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Supreme Allied Commander inoccupied Germany's first
governor placed in these highpositions. Eisenhower was deeply
familiar with the previouslymentioned battle over Los
Angeles and Operation Paperclip,to documents offer proof that
Eisenhower was aware of thecrash and also in charge. The
first is a memo to Nathantwining the Commanding General
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at Air Marshal command rightArmy Airfield, later renamed
Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
He orders 20 To travel to lm onGordo Army Airfield to read a
report of the crash, and thentravel to White Sands to make an
appraisal of the recoveredwreckage. White Sands Missile
base was where the former Naziscientists
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were relocated during OperationPaperclip.
They were specialists and rockettechnology and trusted as the
best experts to assess theretrieved objects. The other
document is a memo dated July 9,from President Truman to general
twining asking him tocommunicate with Eisenhower and
follow his lead. A week later,twining reports back that
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aviation experts concluded thatthe disc was not created by the
US or any other country. Now inCongress, Kennedy could have
used his new congressionalpowers and his intelligence
network to get the truth aboutRoswell. being interested by
reports coming out of theRoswell airfield about a flying
saucer crash, it wouldundoubtably pique his interest
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after his knowledge of theprevious alleged events. Did it
involve covert Nazi technologiesThe army was developing or could
the incident have involved agenuine interplanetary craft.
In a classified report by acovert Army Intelligence Unit,
it mentions Kennedy as one ofthe officials given a report of
the Roswell incident. Thisintelligence unit was called the
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counter Intelligence Corps andthe report states. It has become
known to the CIC that some ofthe recovery operation was
shared with Representative johnF. Kennedy, Massachusetts
democrat elected to Congress and46 son of
Joseph P. Kennedy. Commission onorganization for the executive
branch of the government.
Kennedy have limited duty as anaval officer assigned to Naval
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Intelligence during the war. Itis believed that information was
obtained from a source inCongress who was close to
Secretary for the Air Force. Theevents between 1941 and 1947
leading up to Roswell lay thefoundation for things to come.
The United States has a rich anddiverse history, but it's my
opinion that the year of 1947we'd become a turning point, or
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maybe even a breaking point forthe future of the US and its
citizens. Beyond 1947, it becamenearly impossible to make any
meaningful prediction. Somethinghappened that changed the world
so radically, it made the worldin comprehensible to those
living in pre 1947. Thishistorical development was a one
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way transition. Once done,things could not be undone. This
something was Roswell. I thinkmost historians would disagree
and look at World War Two as theturning point. I think this is
true if you only look at thesurface. But it was a series of
events that occurred immediatelyafter Roswell that would have
the biggest impact on thefuture. As proof, I want to list
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some dates and events for you.
It would most certainly takeanother season of this podcast
to break down what I'm about tolist and to give the full
context is beyond the scope ofthis podcast, but I believe it's
important to mention in 1947john F. Kennedy begins his
career Paul Takes and starts hisfirst term in the House of
Representatives.
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In July, the Roswell incidentoccurs.
July 26, Truman signs theNational Security Act of 1947.
This set up a unified militaryestablishment, as well as
creating the CentralIntelligence Agency, the
National Security Council, theUnited States Air Force,
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formerly known as the Army AirForces, and the Joint Chiefs of
staff'sthis act plays a national
military establishmentunder the control of a single
Secretary ofDefense. On September 17, James
Forrestal is confirmed by theSenate as the first secretary of
defense. Once again, the closefriend of the Kennedy family and
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to JFK is placed in a positionof power and knowledge. This
would give Kennedy a direct linetwo access intelligence and
information.
September 18 National militaryestablishment formally begins
operations. If you see shortlyafter Roswell, all these things
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start to happen that have hugeimpacts on the government and
the country and the world. Andthe subject of our next episode,
on September 24, PresidentTruman issued a memorandum to
James Forrestal authorizingoperation majestic 12. Next time
on conspiracy JFK, a secret andcovert group is formed
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centralizing power andknowledge. James forestall
commit suicide or was it murderthis is an aurora Boris Inc
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