All Episodes

May 21, 2025 41 mins

What happens when a visionary steps back from the drafting table… and starts building people instead?


In this episode of Constructive Interference, Rufus sits down with Justin Greenleaf, founder of Greenleaf Architects, to talk about the evolution from creative technician to culture-building CEO. Justin shares how he went from designing buildings to designing systems, teams, and a business that reflects his values — without losing the spark that got him started.

Whether you’re an entrepreneur, creative, or growth-minded leader, this episode will shift how you think about delegation, leadership, and the true role of a visionary.


Inside this episode:

  • Why communication is the foundation of great design

  • How to extract a client’s vision when they “can’t put it into words”

  • Letting go of control without losing quality

  • The difference between being the expert… and building the experts

  • What failure taught him about ownership, mindset, and growth


  • Justin also unpacks what it means to listen deeply — not just to clients, but to your own team. And why building culture on purpose isn’t a luxury… it’s the architecture of long-term success.

    If you’ve ever struggled to scale your impact without burning out, Justin’s story will resonate deeply.


    🎧 Full show notes at: rufuscressend.com/podcast


    #LeadershipDevelopment #BusinessMindset #ArchitectLife #ConstructiveInterference #VisionaryLeadership #Entrepreneurship #GrowthCulture #CreativeBusiness #JustinGreenleaf #GreenleafArchitects #RufusCressend #TeamCulture #FounderMindset

    Mark as Played

    Advertise With Us

    Popular Podcasts

    Stuff You Should Know
    Crime Junkie

    Crime Junkie

    Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.

    NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal

    NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal

    Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.

    Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

    Connect

    © 2026 iHeartMedia, Inc.