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October 31, 2025 18 mins

In this episode of Conversations with Josh Andrew, I talk about one of the greatest tensions in modern ministry — the pull between calling and clout. Too many pastors are chasing platforms when God called us to carry a cross.

I’ve spent years in the creative and marketing world, and I’ve seen how easy it is to mistake followers for fruit and engagement for anointing. In this conversation, I unpack eight honest thoughts for pastors who want to stay grounded in their true calling — faithfulness over fame, presence over performance, and purpose over platform.

🎧 Listen if you want to:

  • Lead with integrity in a culture of influence

  • Stay faithful when the pressure to perform is real

  • Keep your heart aligned with your calling

  • Build the Kingdom, not just your brand

Connect with me for more leadership & faith-driven insights: Instagram → @joshnandrew TikTok → @joshnandrew Website → https://joshandrew.org

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