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April 18, 2025 32 mins

Thirty years ago, The Undercover Pastor played a role in the arrest that sent this man to prison. Now, the two sit down face-to-face to talk about that day, the fallout, and the powerful redemption only Christ can bring.

They explore the fear of reconnecting, the complexity of defunding the police, what happens when a cop struggles, and the importance of owning your part in any story. This is more than a conversation — it’s a story of transformation, forgiveness, and unlikely reunion.

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