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You've been running from the rules, dodging every chain, thinking structure would cage your magic. But what if everything you believed about freedom was backwards? What if the very systems you've been rebelling against are actually the key to scaling your sacred work?

Saturn just went retrograde, creating the perfect cosmic checkpoint to reassess your relationship with structure, authority, and the "rules of the game." 

If you're tired of spinning your wheels under that concrete ceiling of avoidance, it's time for a different conversation.

In this episode...

✨ Why resisting structure keeps you stuck instead of safe (and the hidden costs of constant rebellion)

👔 The moment Saturn told me to trade van life for a tax office – and how it led to everything I have now

💫 The rebel's U-turn: what happens when you stop fighting the rules and start building with them

🪄 The slow unsexy magic that actually scales your sacred work 

🪐 How to play by Saturn's rules on your own terms to claim your sovereignty

Ready to stop fighting the system and start building your own?

This episode will shift your entire perspective on what true freedom looks like in business. You'll discover how compliance becomes sacred strategy, how structure creates expansion, and why the most magical move might be embracing what you've been avoiding. Perfect timing for anyone going through their Saturn return or feeling called to finally ground their cosmic work into sustainable success.

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You ran from the rules.

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You dodged every chain, butnothing got built in that wide
open plane.
You swore that no system wouldever confine, but chaos crept in
where you drew no line.
You thought staying free meanttearing it down, but Saturn is
here with a steadier crown.
You hated the grind, you cravedwild flow, but slow built

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success is how gardens grow.
You tried to outrun whatstructure demands, but magic
takes root in well tended lands.
So if you're done spinning, ifyou're ready to see, let's talk
about rules and how they set youfree.
This episode is for everyheart-centered, soul led,
purpose-based entrepreneur whohas been avoiding or fighting or

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rebelling against the systemonly to realize, when they're
willing to look, that ultimatelytheir resistance keeps them
small, keeps them crouched undera concrete ceiling, keeps them
from feeling truly straight,spine empowered and like they're
able to make the difference andthe impact that they want to in

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this world.
We're going to explore howSaturn's so-called rules and
limitations are not actuallyhere to cage you.
In fact, they're here to supportyou, to empower you and
ultimately to set you free to beand do who you are meant to and
what you are meant to show upwith in this world.

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I'm going to also share my ownstory of how I learned this the
hard way, because Saturn's wayis always the hard way, but it's
so worth it.
And also how claiming structurefor you on your own terms
though, is the key to scalingyour sacred work and doing it in

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a way that actually feelsawesome, feels like you, feels
like it fits.
And again, it's this paradoxwhere it feels like freedom,
liberation, and expansion all atthe same time.
So listen on to hear about whyresisting structure keeps you
stuck instead of safe.
The moment that Saturn told meto trade the van life for a tax

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office, we're going to have somestory time.
The rebels U-turn and whathappens when you finally stop
fighting the rules and startbuilding with them, the slow
unsexy magic that actuallyscales your sacred work, and
what it means to play bySaturn's rules on your own

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terms.
Let's dive in.
First, let's look at whyresisting structure actually
keeps you stuck instead of safe.
It's so true, I understand theavoidance.
I supported so many clients thatchose a path that felt like
freedom.
They didn't want theconfinement.

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They didn't want the structurebecause they wanted to be in the
flow.
They wanted to be aligned withtheir magic and the ways that
their intuition guides them.
They didn't want to feel stuckin or locked into something that
felt rigid.
They wanted to feel expansive,and again, feel free, and they

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equated structure with theantithesis of the freedom and
the flow that they were seeking.
Only eventually to find thatthey were actually choosing a
path that was breeding chaos andburnout and stagnation under

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that concrete ceiling.
Because of that belief, thatstructure was going to keep them
from their freedom.
So avoiding that structure wasgoing to maintain their freedom.
But the hidden cost, theunfortunate side effect of
constant rebelling against thesystems that exist, the

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structures as we know them, whatis here and designed and
available to welcome ourbusinesses into.
Essentially what we need to pluginto.
The rebellion, the stuff thatcomes with that rebellion, the
emotional toll that it takes,the energetic toll that it
takes, and ultimately thefinancial toll that it takes to

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not be able to make the moneythat you want or that you need
to be able to actually focus onyour work to help the people
that you want to help.
When you're constantly crouchedunder and hiding from the system
and unwilling to plug yourselfinto it to be able to be visible
in your work and to show uptransparently strong.

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There's a common side effect,one of them, of being one of
these people is that you are notcurrent with your taxes, you are
charging by donation, you arebeing in the flow, because you
don't have these structuresavailable for you to lean into,

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to be supported by, you end upnot actually making what you
need.
Some part of you is like inhiding.
If you make a certain amount, ifyou get over a certain earning
level, you're going to be foundout, they're going to find,
you're going to be seen,basically.
You're going to be visible inways that you don't want to
because you are afraid that youare doing something wrong or

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that you're going to get introuble.
Obviously this is the mostextreme example, but if you're
listening to this, you mightrelate to this on some level,
and I can tell you it's way morecommon than you think for people
to have these two together.
The part of you that doesn'tbelieve in or fully support the
system and what it supports andwhat your tax dollars go to.

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So you don't want to participatein it, but you end up shooting
yourself in the foot around yourability to show up and serve.
You don't have the funds and theresources that you need to be
able to fully devote yourself toyour craft and your service.
So the other people that sufferis the people that you're here
to serve.
The people that actually needyou, the full you, to be able to

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be lit up for them to find, andfor you to be able to support
them with the work that only youcan.
The reason that I'm talkingabout this this week is because
Saturn just went retrograde.
This is something that happensabout half the year, Saturn's
retrograde, half the year it'sdirect.
This is a rhythm that happens,kind of a pendulum swing between

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being invited to focus more onwhat's out there, the structures
and the authority systems outthere.
Then the pendulum swing toretrograde that we just moved
into is into your inner game,your inner beliefs, your
relationship to your innerauthority and your relationship
to structure, the inside gamethat that is.

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We have entered this cosmiccheckpoint to reassess those
things and ask yourself if therebellion that is your current
stance in whatever way it is, isstill actually serving you.
This brings me to the story timeI have in store for you here
today, which is the moment thatSaturn told me to trade the van

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life for a tax office.
This is such an interestingstory, in part because I'm
Aquarian, and similar to Uranusbeing the only planet that spins
sideways, the Aquarian urge todance to the beat of a different
drum than everybody else.
Most stories of people'sawakening are around being very

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rooted in the 3D in this world,in the system.
Having the wool pulled overtheir eyes and having some kind
of opening around seeing what'sreally going on.
Having more of a cosmicconnection, a 5D perspective.
They go from 3D like up and out.

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The reason that my story is sointeresting is I very much went
in reverse in terms of mybiggest awakening to date.
So much of it was through thechannel of my relationship with
Saturn and my orientation towardmy future, my sense of

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responsibility, and ultimatelymy willingness to really root
into the 3D.
Something interesting if you arein proximity to your Saturn
return, which starts right about27, peaks about 30, and you come
out the other side at about age33.
Is that this is the time when wetransition from our youth where

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we are just in exploration mode.
We're trying things on for size,we're seeing what feels like
hours and what doesn't, andwe're taking notes along the
way.
So that ultimately during thatSaturn return, we're going to
make decisions and choicesaround what we are going to keep
inside of that circle, that ringthat's closing around us or so

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it feels like, and what we aregoing to let go of.
Because we're going to make likea 90 degree turn from breadth,
where in our youth years,anything's possible.
It just seems like the sky isthe limit and we have so many
ideas of things that we might beinterested in pursuing, but then
we get to our Saturn return andit's like, yo I only have so

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much time in this life.
I need to refine what I'm goingto focus on to go deeply into.
That 90 degree turn into depth.
A big part of it, and this is atopic for another time, all of
the things that happen duringyour Saturn return, but it's a
time of sacrifice.
It's a time when you're probablygoing to be asked and nudged,

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not so gently, if you don't doit willingly, to let go of the
thing that you're most attachedto, to break free.
To start over from this newfoundation of what really fits
with the purpose that you arecommitting to the work that you
are committing to movingforward, and what needs to be
sacrificed or let go.

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I say this because this isexactly what I went through
during my Saturn return, likemost do.
And also it was the mostprofound, I had been studying
astrology for many moons beforethis, and had lots of little
ahas and moments of clarity andrealization, but it wasn't until

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saturn came during the returnthat it was, I just can't even,
the words do not even exist forhow powerful and penetrating
this experience was.
How intense this rite of passageand transition was.
Something just so incrediblyundeniable, which also, if

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you've been in my world, youknow, this is something that is
just such a unfortunate thingfor most young people that don't
know this, they're not preparedfor this.
This is not a collectivecultural conversation that we
have.
People think they become anadult at 18 and then they're
blindsided at 30 when thetransformation actually takes

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place from youth into your adultera.
Also known as your second Saturncycle.
But before I get off too muchinto that, I just want to set
the stage in case you are notfamiliar with the Saturn return
and how powerful it is becausethis story finds me at that
point, at the beginning ofSaturn reentering my life to get

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my attention and get me to letgo of some things that I was
very attached to.
The biggest one was therelationship that I was in that
was not actually supportive tothe direction that I would be
heading.
It was a very codependentrelationship where him and I
both learned so much aboutcodependency through that

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relationship and supported us toenter into much more supportive
ones to our individual pathsmoving forward.
That was one piece of it.
Another big piece was just thelife that I was living, and
again, it was a little bit inreverse to most people.
At that time I was living in avan.

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I called her Astraya.
She was my spaceship that was myway of being in the flow and in
the world in a way, while alsobeing a total homebody.
But I was doing a circuitthrough, over and over where I
would go to trim jobs and then Iwould go to hot springs to

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recuperate and then totransformational music
festivals.
So van dwelling, festivalhopping, hot springs soaking,
but honestly, so ungrounded,just 100% in the flow in every
sense of that.
I was psycho not that usedpsychedelics to be in the flow

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in the dance space.
That was such a big part of myreality, both quantity and
quality wise.
It was my favorite space to be,and somewhere I spent so much
time between that and regularecstatic dance, just being in
the flow in my body.
When it came to money, I was sojust in the flow.
I didn't keep track of anythingthen, I just made what I made at

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a trim job.
Got a fat stack of cash and thenwent and wandered and did my
thing till it was close torunning out and that would be my
signal in queue to find the nextgig.
So 100% in the flow, zerostructure.
Then I really started to get toa point where I don't know I

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mean, I was just having peakexperience after peak
experience, and yet I started tofeel bored.
I was starting to really cravebeing more grounded.
That's what happens when Saturnenters the scene.
At first the nudges were subtle.
I just started to notice, I wasfeeling less excited about and

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interested in the life that hadbeen my top choice all in space
for so many years.
Then the nudges started to getlouder, before ultimately having
a full on awakening experiencethat I've called my mystery
school, my magic school.
It started with a voice in myhead that asked for my consent

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around the question of if weshow you what's really going on,
what you've been seeking andexpanding into and unwilling to
ground because of, if we showyou what's really going on, the
magic and what you're capableof.
Will you then ground yourself,get a real home and start your

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tax practice so that you cananchor yourself essentially,
ground yourself to be able toreceive everything we're about
to show you, everything that youhave had an inkling is actually
going on.
But you can't just fly and soarand float and flow through it.
You need to ground yourself.

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You need to root yourself sothat you can actually
responsibly ground into it andyou can create the stability
that you need through that rootsystem to be able to really be
in relationship to it in aresponsible way.
So let me tell you, I was a fuckyes to this question.

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I went on the ride of a lifetimefor two weeks, and then on the
other side of it, I did what Ihad agreed to.
Saturn guided me every step ofthe way, I got the home, I
started my tax practice, andwould embark on almost a decade
journey of going deeper anddeeper into that boring life.

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Something you may not know aboutme is my north node is in
Taurus.
I'm actually my spiritual path,my destined direction is to
embrace the quote"boring" sideof things.
So this was a big part of it forme specifically, but honestly is
for everyone in general aroundyour Saturn return.
He's asking you to essentiallygo lower dimensional.

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One of the things my teacher,Steven Forrest always said about
your Saturn return is it's goingto put you in a direction to
commit to a path of life's workthat the five-year-old in you
that had these big lofty visionsfor what you do would just start
crying to find out.
Something that just seems sogrown up and boring compared to

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the big dreams that you have.
But it's also something that'sactually achievable and
something through which avehicle through which you're
actually able to help people andmake a difference.
Let me tell you the differencethat I made, both for myself
around the skills that Ideveloped and the side of myself
that I developed, that I nowtrust wholeheartedly.

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Also the people that I helped tomake this transition themselves.
Which I still do, to help peopleto go from that very ungrounded,
in the flow space that keepsthem limited actually, and to
transition to embrace thefreedom and the expansion that

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is available to them when theyactually create stability and
roots and choose the path ofresponsibility overlaid on their
dream to choose their pathforward.
So if you take away nothing elsefrom this story that I know,
meandered a bit with my Aquarianmercurial mind, take away that

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the most magical move for methat got me to the life and the
fantasy life that I alwayswanted, that I'm living now that
is so much more peaceful andgrounded and abundant and
expansive was to extract myselffrom what had been my

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exclusively cosmic magical life,and to ground myself and create
the foundation for everythingthat I'm able to build and have
now.
The difference that I'm actuallyable to make now, all the people
that I've helped and all thepeople that I have yet to help,
now that I am post pivot afterthat era and season of my life

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of being a tax preparer andintegrating those worlds through
my service of having that cosmicalignment piece and that
grounded compliance piece andexisting at the center in the
vehicle of your business.
Okay, so now let's back up andgeneralize my specific share and

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story to what this invitation isboth during your Saturn return,
but also any time like now wehave this shift from direct to
retrograde, or you're having aprominent Saturn transit.
Where he's back in your face,getting your attention, and
reminding you of the power andthe magic in your

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responsibilities.
That is what I call the rebelsU-turn, which was such a common
rite of passage and transitionfor all of my tax clients, many
of them that came to me in asimilar place that I was in,
ready to really get seriousabout their life and their
business.
Often going through their Saturnreturn, that's what happens

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when, like I said, you stopfighting the rules and you start
building with them.
I like to say pay to play.
Or remind people, remindeveryone that there was a time
when witches were burned, right?
We weren't able to be our true,authentic selves and show up
with our magic.
Now we can, we just have to knowthe rules of the game that we're

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playing in so that we can alignwith them enough to be in
compliance, but then break themlike an artist and get to really
do whatever we want.
There's so much freedomavailable to us now to be
ourselves and do our weird workin the world, whatever that is
for you.
Like I said, I just have so manyexamples of clients, creatives,

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healers and visionaries who cameto me having been resisting
their taxes, the system orsystems in their business and
being in compliance with theirbusiness and the breakthroughs
that happened over and over whenthey finally learned the rules
of the game, embraced them, andwere able to lean into the

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systems that they created aroundthem as supportive and not
restrictive.
And actually finding that therestriction was in that concrete
ceiling that they were crouchedunder, was in their avoidance,
and they're trying to exist in aworld by avoiding the structures

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within it that make it up.
That was restrictive and it wasactually so freeing.
I have the example of clientstelling me stories about before
they worked with me going to thebank and feeling small, feeling
like they don't want to say thewrong thing, it just being this
awkward and uncomfortableexperience.
To how different it felt to gointo the bank fully empowered,

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fully understanding the rulesand the language of the finance
game and world and just thenight and day and how that
confidence rippled into so manyother areas of their life and
business, so that they feltgreater freedom.
They were able to createsustainability within their

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business and be on track androoted and grounded to be able
to scale from there and reallystart playing the game.
Then of course, the inner shiftas well of realizing and getting
to experience the truth of thatmastery of structure, having it
there to be able to lean intoactually opened up the path for

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them to master their magic aswell.
If this is familiar to you, ifyou can relate to this, if
you're someone who has beenstuck in that place where
fighting the system feels likethe only way to stay free, or it
seems like it, but somethingfeels off and wrong and it's not
working, and you're starting towonder if that fight is what's

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keeping you small, limited,exhausted, and overwhelmed.
I want to open the possibilityfor you of what if real freedom
actually comes from what you'vebeen avoiding?
From building the structuresthat can actually hold your
magic and create a container foryou to master it as you grow and

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as it grows with you.
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Both in terms of the differencethat you're able to make, the
people that you're able to touchand support, but also the

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financial flow, how you're ableto fund yourself to be able to
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With that, let's get into theslow unsexy magic.
I know I'm kind of saying it asexy way'cause it kind of is.
I don't know I've got Saturn andScorpio.
A lot of people of my generationdo, a lot of my peers, so you
can probably feel me when I saythat slow unsexy magic that

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actually scales your sacred workbecause Saturn is our big daddy
actually teaching us how to getwhere we want to go to be who we
want to be to align with ourpotential.
He teaches that through slow andsteady and sustainable.
That those are the ways tosuccess.

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It is a long game, it is agrounded game, and ultimately
winning the game is not anyheight.
It's becoming sustainable.
It's feeling rooted and groundedand on track.
Through his teachings what youreally realize if you let him
in, and you probably haveexperiences that illuminate

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this, is that fast growthfantasies are actually the trap
and trying to work toward themis what actually burns you out.
So Saturn is like, yo, slowdown, get comfy we're going to
be here a while.
And anyone that tries to teachyou that, oh, you can get to 10K
months in three weeks orwhatever it is, right?

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Like, no, dude, it's a trap.
It's a trap because maybe you'llget that result by mimicking
somebody else.
But you didn't ground in, youdidn't do it your own way and it
wasn't actually in flow, right?
It ended up, if it didn't burnyou out that time, it's going to
burn you out to try and repeatit again.
And that actually the systemsthat will scale your sacred work

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and support you to deepen intowho you actually are as you get
bigger in your business and yourimpact, do not look flashy.
They look steady and a littlebit boring and that the
willingness to cultivate andgrow your integrity and root

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into that long game, thelongevity of your business will
trump instant results everytime.
Because they are compounding,they create momentum, and they
are the foundation and thestructure that you can actually
relax into.
So what does it mean to play bySaturn's rules on your own
terms?

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Firstly, let me just dispel anymyth your fear might have told
you or held over you.
Saturn's rules are not aboutblind obedience.
This is why the idea ofauthority right now tuning into
your inner authority andcultivating that through
Saturn's guidance during thisSaturn retrograde, but also what

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that means for your relationshipwith external authority,
whichever one it is, whetherit's your relationship to
external authority in thisworld, your relationship to your
higher power.
Oh my goodness, this was such abig one for me on my path, this
was such a big shift when Irealized that in the dialogue

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between me and my higher selfthat actually it's a
co-creation.
I know that's simple to say, butI had a moment once, it was
actually during the GreatAmerican Eclipse on my porch of
my little studio out in thewoods that I was living in, my
little cabin and I was out onthe porch with my glasses and my

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little dog Itchy.
And yo, I had the ultimaterealization that changed
everything for me around thispiece, around my relationship to
authority, however thatmanifests that it is never about
blind obedience.
That it is never about me justsurrendering and submitting to

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what I'm being shown or told.
It is always about theco-creative, dynamic decision
making process.
It is always about my responseto an integration of the
guidance, the input.
But I am a free agent, and infact, Saturn's teachings and

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rules are actually aboutmastery.
When I realized that I had justas much say in the equation as
anything else I was being fed ortold or guided, whether it was
something of this world that Ifelt distrustful of or something
that coming from my higher selfthat something in me thought I

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should just blindly surrenderto.
No, whatever it is, you are halfof the equation.
The other half is what you'rebeing told or shown.
When it comes to Saturn'steachings, whatever authority
figure or idea or concept thatcomes through for you, your
mastery, which is what isactually being supported, is in

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that relationship, and in yourdevelopment of being able to
stand tall and play your role ashalf of that co-creative machine
and dynamic.
That couple, that power couple.
When you choose structure, whenyou're willing to lean in and
embrace it, like Saturn teaches,you're actually choosing your

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sovereignty.
You are creating a relationshipwith authority that is based in
that sovereignty, in thatknowing that you are your
willingness, your consent, yourideas, your motivations,
whatever it is.
Your way is just as valid,important, powerful and

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necessary as the way that anyauthority might lay out for you
to follow.
This brings us specifically inthe money side of it,
compliance, taxes, that wholething.
That compliance, being incompliant with those rules of
the game, tracking your incomeand expenses, which is part of

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being in compliance, besidesyour filing responsibility, and
boundaries between your businessand personal life.
Boundaries around your businessentity, another piece of
compliance and what you areexpected to do as a business
owner, these aren't just rules,these can become part of your
sacred strategy in yourbusiness.

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The invitation stands for you toclaim the rules as your own,
show up alongside them, knowthem, be in relationship with
them, and create structuresaround them that can hold you in
your magic and your sacred work.
Just remember the rules of thegame are not here to box you in,

(33:29):
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(33:51):
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(34:34):
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