Infertility, Giving Birth & The Medical Industrial Complex

Hello and welcome back to the show! Today I am a guest on the Wake The Dead podcast to discuss my journey through infertility, pregnancy and of course the birth of little bitty baby peach!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Baby, You're my game statoo. It takes a little tangle.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You don't mess with me, mess with me my gangsta too.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Peach Baby, You're a game statoo. For good warnings, this
podcast is designed to take you outside of your comfort
zone and make you question reality. Listener discretion is a vibe.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Fellas, this ain't my first time at the rodeos.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Greetings, welcome to Wake the Dead Today. We are delighted
to have our good friend Julia from Cosmic Peach here
to join us and tell us about her epic battle
with the medical Industrial Complex and your survival and your

(01:13):
triumph at the end with a beautiful baby boy. Congratulations
for that again.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
We thank you. Yeah, no, thanks for having me too.
I mean, I think you know a lot of my
listeners at least know how I feel about the medical
industrial Complex. Being pregnant and having to go through it
is even worse. It's scary. You definitely have to advocate

(01:41):
for yourself at every turn, and sometimes they are absolutely
astonished that someone would exercise their sovereignty. Let's just say
that they're shocked that someone would even try to. So,
I mean, this is a crazy story, and I think

(02:02):
you know anybody out there, who's pregnant in twenty twenty five.
We're all in this together, so it's not just you.
I've had a crazy trip and I can't I can't
wait to get into it's it's wild.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's beautiful. So this you, uh, it started as like
a dream that you were told could not happen, right,
Why is that what happened in your life where they
told you that that could not be possible to have

(02:35):
a baby.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So I actually was placed on birth control when I
was in fourth grade, which is you know, nineties girls
out there, some of you probably can you know, relate
to this, but it was heavily pushed on my mom

(02:58):
to get me started on that as soon as I
had a period. And she was like, well, she's in
fourth grade. She's not sexually active, I know. And they
were like, well, it's not for that, it's actually it
will help her. She'll have clear skin and she won't
you have extraordinarily long periods, and it'll just help her

(03:18):
be regular, and da, da da, And they sold my
mom this like pipe dream that this was so good
for me. And so from fourth grade until I was
twenty five years old, I was on birth control because
I just didn't know fucking any better, and it destroyed
my body's natural ability to ovulate, because that's what the

(03:43):
birth control pill does, is it prevents your body from ovulating.
So what ended up happening is I got all these
cysts on my ovaries that I didn't even know about
until I was an adult, and I had, like they
called them, they looked like strings of pearls. There was

(04:05):
that many on my ovaries, just like twenty five thirty
cysts on each ovary because my ovaries were trying to
produce eggs in the birth control pills were stiphening that
process from happening. So they just turned into big, huge
cysts all over my ovaries. And you can imagine from
fourth grade until adulthood how fucked my reproductive system was.

(04:29):
And to top it all off, on you know, a
side tangent, when I was in middle school, I think
like six or seventh grade, the new thing was the
Gardasil shot for girls. So on top of being on
birth control pills, they pushed heavily in the early two thousands,
all girls need to get this because it can prevent

(04:52):
the top three strains of HPV or something like that.
And before COVID. You know, everybody was freaked out that
the COVID jab was in multiple parts and you had
to go back and then you had to get a
booster and all that. That's how the Gardasil shot was.
You had to go back several times. It was like

(05:12):
a three part shot. So, you know, even as far
back as the early two thousands, before COVID was even
a thing, they were doing these weird three part vaccines
for some anomalous thing that probably you were probably never
gonna get. And I know a lot of people who
got gardasil who still ended up getting fucking HPV. So

(05:35):
it's like why the fuck? You know. So I think
that there has been a concentrated assault on young women
from my generation, maybe like nineties to now, starting with like, oh,
you got your period in the fourth grade, which why
do you even have your period in the fourth grade?

(05:57):
Right to you know, immediate birth control guard a cell
And when I went to actually try to conceive, they
told me all the ways that it would never be possible,
and they said, well, you know, you'll have to be
off birth control pills for like a year. You have

(06:21):
these huge cysts on your ovaries that need to get
cleared up, you know. And by the way, your uterus
is in two pieces.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Wow, So imagine hearing that.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think with a developing body, and this is just
a theory because they say that it has nothing to
do with it, but this is my theory. And they
said that it has nothing to do with it. But
my body was still developing at the time that I
started having a period, right, and they immediately put me
on all these hormone blockers, and so my system never

(07:01):
got to regulate itself. My uterus obviously was still developing,
in my opinion, and it's called they have two names
for it. Some some doctors have said that I have
a didelphis uterus, and some doctors say that I have
a septate uterus. But basically it's when your uterus it's

(07:23):
supposed to be shaped like like a bowl almost, and
mine is in two separate pieces. And if I could,
I don't even know if I could do a screen share.
Anybody who wants to know what it looks like, you
can google it. But it's basically it's it's my uterus
is split in half and it's in two pieces. On

(07:45):
top of having ovarian cysts and like can't ovulate and
all this, and so what they tell you is, oh,
you have a condition. It's called polycystic ovarian syndrome, which
is a new name that they because they couldn't explain
why all these women who got started on the birth

(08:06):
control pill when they were in fourth grade can't have
babies now, right, So they had to come up with
a name for it, right, the.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Birth control's fault. It had to be some disease that
came from.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You, yes, right, So they came up with this name
for why this generation of women. And you can talk
to anybody, there is such a surge right now of
women getting diagnosed with this. It's it's disgusting they and
they have zero you know what. The cure is more
birth control pills. Oh the one treatment is yeah, right,

(08:43):
it's really cure.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
What they want is to have a baby gestate outside
of the mother's wombs, so they don't even need a
mother altogether. They can have breast milk made in a
petri dish. Yeah, that's what's coming. But anyway, we're talking
about you here.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Sorry, well, no, that that's the plan because but it's
like I said, they pushed so hard and like as
I was getting older and like talking to my friends
and shit was like, oh, I'm on the pill too. Yeah,
my mom got me that too. Oh yeah, I got
the guarded hill too. It was like, yeah, this it's
been pushed on everybody since I don't know, two thousand
and one, right, So yeah, and uh they they told

(09:23):
me the probability of me successfully carrying and conceiving a
baby were damn near impossible because of all this shit
that was wrong with me. And I did get pregnant
once and I did lose that baby, and they were like, well,
you know, you have half a uterus, and you have
all these cysts, and you have this, and you have that.

(09:45):
And I was like, okay, well, I'm I guess I
just will give up on this because after you go
through that once, that's not an experience you want to
repeat again. As badly as you may want a baby,
lose using them is so hard. It makes you like
it puts you in a dark place where it's like

(10:06):
I want one, but if I have to keep doing
this over and over again, I can't. Like this is horrible,
this is awful. So it's almost like, you know, it's
like a sacrifice in a way. Too, because the amount
of women that I have found with my condition that
loses their babies, it's staggeringly high statistic. I mean, it's gross.

(10:30):
People who have pcos their probability of miscarriage is like
sixty percent or something for the first pregnancy. So it's
like they've set up a system to where even if
you can, by a fucking miracle chance in hell get pregnant,
you probably won't have a baby still because and because

(10:54):
of my half a uterist situation or whatever. The first
time that I got pregnant, I was around twelve weeks
and I started hemorrhaging really bad, and then I had
to have an emergency like DNC and it was horrible
and I thought I was gonna die and I was
bleeding out, and they were like, yeah, well, you know
you have this. This is really common. It affects a

(11:16):
lot of women, and it's just something that we should
accept because you know, we've shoved birth control pills and
guard to seeled down everybody's throat for the last ten years,
and we're seeing this more and more every day, and
it's like, okay, so it should just just be normal.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I guess to right, trauma is normal your trauma that
you were experiencing. Get over it. It's normal.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's how it made me feel. I was like, so
it's normal to get pregnant and almost die, Like that's
that's okay. So y'all all right these days.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
The medical industrial complex, right, yes.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right, yeah. So because of that experience, my ex husband
and I actually went our separate ways and I met
my current has been obviously and moved here. And I
was under the impression that it may never happen, and
I had just kind of accepted that, and I stopped

(12:11):
taking all of this stuff that they told me I
should be taking because they said, oh, you know, having
this condition, it's it's killed your thyroid. And so I
was like, all right, so now I have a thyroid condition,
I have this that, And they just kept adding stuff
to this list of like I should just fucking go
kill myself, like I'm gonna have to be hooked up

(12:32):
to a machine to live, pretty much like I have
no thyroid, I have this, I have that. So I
just stopped taking everything, and I want to say, like
two months later, I found out I was pregnant. Now
this is the crazy thing, because I just let my
body do it. Heal itself pretty much, because you know

(12:53):
your body can do that. I know they don't want
you to know this, but it can. So yeah, yeah,
it's so. I found out I was pregnant, but praumatized
me to the point where I was waiting for the
other shoe to drop all nine months because they would
just keep telling me things like, well, you know, your

(13:13):
baby's only going to have half the room a normal
baby would have because you have half a uterus. Oh
and you can still get pregnant in the other side
of your uterus even while you're pregnant, right, I'm Sean,
I'm telling you. I felt like I was on some
Frankenstein shit, and I kept waiting for the other shoe

(13:36):
to drop the entire nine months. I was like, Okay,
I got through the first month, I'm all right now.
I got through the second month, I'm all right now.
And they kept doing blood work and they were like,
we just you know, it's so surprising, like with all
this stuff you have wrong with you, it's like going
so good. Yeah, but they still kept on with like,

(13:58):
you have no thighid function and you might lose the baby.
Any anything that they could find to say you might
lose the baby because you have the and they would
tell me to oh, your your thyroids, steal shit, you
might lose the baby. And then they were like, you
have no you're severely anemic. You might lose the baby.

(14:21):
You know you have half a uterus. You might lose
the baby if you don't do this, this, this, and
so I was so traumatized by you might lose the
baby because of your broken body that we have given
you congrats that I opted to do. I tried to
find an in between a home birth and a hospital birth,

(14:45):
and this is important.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
You did that too with you earthing center.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Earthing center. Yeah, And that's why I feel like it's
important to talk about this kind of stuff because I
feel like people may not understand that, even though they
would like to traumatize you and scare you to death,
that you have to have a hospital birth. You don't.
You could literally give birth in a field outside. But I,

(15:13):
with all my medical problems and with almost bleeding out
the first time, I was like, let's find a happy
medium to where I don't die, the baby comes out safely.
But I don't want to go to a fucking er.
That's for day. I'm sure, right, So I had a midwife.
It was a pretty positive experience with the midwife because

(15:34):
they're more holistic in nature. They're not really like pill
pushers or like, you know, weirdos like that. But when
I got to so my birth plan was they have
this big tub and I was going to do a
water berth and it was gonna be great and it
was gonna be but none of that fucking happened. Yeah,

(16:00):
none of that fucking happened. What happened was I went
into labor on his due date, which is a crazy
small fraction of babies that actually come on their due date.
But I was like, oh my god, he's actually going
to come on his due date.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
No.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I labored at home for like thirty something hours, unmedicated.
I wanted to die. It was horrible. He was just
it was just not getting me anywhere. I just kept
having contractions and nothing was fucking happening. So by the
time I got to the birth center, I was like,
what drugs are available? I think I'm going to die,

(16:41):
And you know how I am, I don't want the drugs. Sure,
trying to have a baby hanging halfway out our badge? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're gonna be wanting some fucking drugs, right. But something
I learned though, is the place that I chose to
go to they give you andal and it is strictly

(17:01):
numbing medication that they give you. And the anesthesiologists clarified
that for me because he said, yeah, they've been starting
to want to put fitanel in the epidurals, so they
give you a numbing agent and they give you fittanyl
through your epidural and I was like, I don't want
any fucking fitan all. If the numbing agent isn't going

(17:22):
to cut it, then I did, I'll just feel everything
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Have is not that bad actually anyway, but.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
You hear so many horror I don't want.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
What they're doing cracked. I mean, it's probably best in
the long run to have no drugs, like.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Please say, yeah, well no. I was just like in
the middle of trying to like have contractions and think
about all this stuff, and I was like, oh God,
I don't want fucking fittin al and the baby and
like whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's a commendable choice because when you're in that moment,
you're like, ugh, I got all this pain, like but
you stayed true to what you really wanted, So that's good.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah. And if I would have been able to have
my contractions getting me somewhere, I probably wouldn't have went
for the epidural, but they weren't getting me anywhere. And
then they started with are you familiar with the potosin? Yeah, dude,
there are so many horror stories about the potosin, and

(18:23):
they will, oh, so it is. Your body creates this
natural hormone I guess it's called oxytocin, and it helps
move the baby along out the it softens the cervix,
it gets things going. Your body produces this naturally, and

(18:45):
so bond. Yes. And so what they've started to do
is they've hijacked this natural process that your body goes
through and they've made a synthetic version of it, and
it's called potocin. And they have just decided they don't
care even if you're ten centimeters dilated and ready to push.

(19:08):
They still want you to have it for some reason.
And so just everybody gets it. It's like a you know,
one size fits all is as soon as you get there,
everybody gets the potosin. And so they they said, yeah,
we we went ahead and started that for you. And
I was like, oh, okay, well fuck me. I guess
that they just had it already going.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
And then.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I guess because when you're well, I mean, it's it's
like when you're in a state of pan right, they
just start doing stuff for you. Like I didn't want
to have IVS, but it was, you know, oh, no,
we're gonna. We already told them, they're on their way,
they're about to you know.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, we've got to trust the science. I mean of science.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, dude, and this might be you know whatever,
t am I, but it's just worth noting in case
somebody else has to go through this. When I envisioned
giving birth and like the water tub and like just
oh and my baby, and like, you know, I'll tell
you what happened was, I had seventeen thousand different fucking

(20:21):
wires strapped to my body, tubes running. I had the
catheter in my back for the epidural. I had an
IVY with the potocin and with fluids and whatever the
fuck else they were pumping me full of. I had
contraction monitors strapped to my belly, and then I had
two heart monitors for the baby. Strapped to my belly.

(20:42):
Then I had a heart monitor, and then because of
the epidural, they were like, now we have to give
you a catheter in case you try to piss everywhere,
So I had, and then at some point they strapped
something to my foot, so I literally couldn't even move
in the bed because I had tubes, wires and just
so I literally felt like I was, you know, in

(21:05):
fucking eraser Head or something. I feel like a science
experiment right now.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Like a carpenter or something like that.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Right. It was dystopian nightmare that I and I would say,
can I get like just one thing removed? Like can
I have one thing taken off?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
And they were like no, sorry, so you're room fully gone,
Like they just take over and they do yeah in
this other place, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
And I was shocked because it was supposed to you know,
it's supposed to be like the happy medium in between
like going to a fucking er or something and giving
birth in a field, which you know, if you can
do the field, you should probably do that, or else
you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Get these Yeah, probably best idea if you're gonna have
a nice clean field somewhere, but best you can get
put a blanket down or yeah. But so they had
you wired up like like you were like RoboCop there.
They just had to m h took your consciousness and

(22:10):
strapped it down.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yes, and I was I had at that point, I
had been awake for like forty something hours, right, because
if you contraction, yeah, you can't sleep through that.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I don't care what anybody says, You're not sleeping through that.
So by the time the epidural kicked in, I just
wanted to take a nap, just wanted to sleep a
little bit so I had energy when it was time
to start pushing. They came in every fucking thirty minutes,
rolling me around and then you know, they were like,

(22:44):
just so you know, you can't eat now, and I
was like, oh, so I'm fucking starving, by the way. Yeah,
And I said, okay, well I'm fucking starving by the way,
and they said you can have you can have jello
and you can have like chicken broth or something like.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
That, and ice cubes.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
You can have ice c That's that's gonna give me
tons of energy for pushing a human out into the world.
Jello cups and fucking chicken broth and fucking nursing home
ice cubes that smell like the fucking plague. I was like, what.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
The fuck, man, So that's not like and you're paying
these people for this experience.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yes, just wait till I get into it, because you know,
they were lucky I was in the middle of this ordeal,
or they would have they would have got another side
of me. I was just trying to survive at that point, right,
So it got it came time after the potocin, which
didn't work, and they had to keep upping it and

(23:50):
doing Oh surprise, it didn't work like it was supposed to,
you know. And so it did come time to push,
and his heart eight just started dropping down to like nothing,
and oh, I wasn't even there yet.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
She was like, well, I think it's about time to push,
and she said, and we need to because his heart
rate's been dropping you. Yeah. So I was like, okay,
that's terrifying. And so they started rolling me around to
like try to get his heart rate back up while
the middle of me trying to push, and you know,

(24:37):
I felt his head like literally halfway out of my
badge hole, and his heart rate just took a fucking
nose dive, and she was like, you gotta get him out,
you gotta get him out, you gotta get him out.
And I literally pushed with every fucking cell in my
body to get him out. I didn't. I pushed so hard.
I didn't even know he was fucking born. I was
still pushing and she was like, he's here, and I

(24:59):
was like, oh my god, I did it.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
You know, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
But they made me keep that fucking catheter in my
piss hole the whole fucking time I was pushing, and
that's all I could think about, sean uh. And I
begged her. I said, please don't make me push with this,
and it's all I can think about is like this
thing in my piss hole and like seeing the tube
coming out, and I was like, please take it out,

(25:25):
Please take it out, and she was like, no, sorry,
I don't want to get pete on. I was like,
please please take it out.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
They can't have the slightest bit of uncomfort, like you
can be in total pain, but they can't have a
little bit of pea splash on them.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That's what I said. I was like, do you see
what I'm going through right now? And you're talking about
you don't want to get pete on, so I have
to get this too. Oh it was awful, but of
course you know, the moment you see them and they
put them on you, it's like, oh, I do it
one hundred more times. Yeah, to have this, But you know,

(26:03):
I wanted to breastfeed and they had totally cooked my thyroid,
so my breastfeeding never really took off. My milk wasn't
coming in like it was supposed to.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
And I'm now finding out if you have this thyroid problem,
it's harder for your breast milk to come in. So
thanks again for the pharmaceuticals. You know, now I can't
feed my baby. Thank you so much for that. And
you know, I'm holding him and they were like, well,

(26:39):
you know, he's got the marconium, and I think that
the potocin actually probably may have put him under a
lot of stress, and his heart rate was dropping. He
had marconium. For people who don't know, that means they
get freaked out and poop in the womb and then
they inhale it. So I didn't even get to hold him,

(27:00):
like two minutes before they had whisked him away and
they were like suctioning him and like doing all this stuff.
I couldn't even hold him, and I and she was like,
you need to keep pushing, you know, we got to
get this placenta out. And I'm all I can think
about is my baby's right there and I can't hold him,
I can't touch him, I can't see him, and they're

(27:22):
just you know, all these people crowding over him, and
I'm trying to push this fucking placina out. I'm bleeding
all over the place. And you know, I do think
that when you have medical interperents in something like that,
it stresses the baby out. You know. They're like, oh,
it's a totally normal thing that happens. You know, they
just shit in the womb. It's like, actually, no, that's

(27:44):
not a totally normal thing that happens. Babies have died
from that, right, They've had to go to the Nike
you for that. You know.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, we're very when we're lucky with our son. Like
the moment he came out, he like sprayed black poop
all over my wife. But she was so happy though,
like it's all good.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Better better it be out, you know, than in their lungs.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh god, it was. It was horrifying. And they were
like they sectioned him and like did whatever. And they
were like, okay, so you're going to try to breastfeed
and I was like yeah, and they just you know,
come over. They start undressing me and they just shove
his head onto my boob and they're like, yeah, he's
not latching.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Good.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I'm like, he's literally five seconds old. Can you give
him a fucking break for a second.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
They're trying to like a like trying to fit a
light bulb.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yes, And she was like, I'm serious. It was horrible.
She was like, yeah, he's not this isn't working. I
was like, like, can I hold him for two seconds
before we get this processed?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Start the toast and also messes with that too, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yes? Okay, yes, so yeah, but yeah, so they they
didn't give me five seconds with him before they were
just like trying to like shove his head onto my
boob or whatever. And I was like, you know, maybe
maybe just give him a second because he's just like
you know.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Born right, yeah, and he's like just got his heart
rate back to normal maybe.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Right, yes, and just got the suction and like whatever.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, so he didn't latch, And what did they say
to you?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, he didn't. He wasn't trying to latch, you know,
because he just went through the trauma of a birth
in suctioning and like all this other stuff, his heart
rate and you know, first off, I'm not like the
most modest person, but like they were, they just grabbed
my tit and were like just shoving it in his

(29:54):
mouth and stuff, and all I could think of is, like,
this has got to be so traumatizing for him, Like
he didn't even get the chance to like get to
feel me first before they were just like trying to
shove my tit in his mouth. He can he just
learned how to breathe, Like literally five seconds ago he
had poop in his lungs. Can we give him a
second year? You know? So I told him to back

(30:19):
off because I was like, Okay, yeah, let's just can
we take a break from this because this is not
happening right now and they wouldn't sean. Thinking back on
this makes me sick to my stomach. Even so I
was getting stitched up right because you know, birth and

(30:43):
everything hurts. I feel like I've just gotten hit by
a truck. I've been sweating for an hour and a
half pushing my baby out. I'm covered and you can
guess what all different type of fluids. And she was like,
it's really late, and you can just take a shower
tomorrow when I come She was like, when I come

(31:05):
back from my shift tomorrow, I'll get a shower going
for you. And she handed me like a wet wipe
to go to the bathroom and clean myself up with.
And first off, I just got feeling back in the
lower half of my body. I can barely walk to
the bathroom. Now I can't shower. I have to somehow
use a wet wipe to clean myself up after birth.

(31:28):
And this is something I found out later. I thought
maybe she didn't want me to go to the shower
because there were other pregnant women and they had other
stuff to do, or maybe there was somebody else in
the shower. I found out the next day that I
was the only person in the entire birthing center and
she couldn't find it in her heart to let me

(31:49):
take a shower that night, even though I was covered
in literally blood and guts and peet and fluids and
like placenta juice, and like everything I had to sleep
in that overnight, I felt disgusting. I was trying to
bond with my baby and I fucking had sweated and blood,

(32:10):
and like she couldn't find it in her fucking heart
to let me take a ten minute shower that night,
and we were the only people in the birthing center.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I'm sorry to hear that. Well.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean it's just like that's how much they care
about you in this miracle of life and giving birth.
Is like I would have loved to have been able
to take a hot shower that night and like put
on some pajamas and just like sleep with my baby.
And you know, I'm in the bathroom trying to clean
myself up with a wet wipe, and the nurse comes

(32:44):
in takes my baby away, and she's like, I'll clean
him up and get him, you know, swaddle him or whatever.
And I was like, I can do that, you know, hello,
I just had him five seconds ago. I would like
to do that for him. And she's over there like
putting a little outfit on him or whatever and just
waddling him. And then I was like, okay, I got
in the bed, feeling gross, but I still wanted to

(33:07):
hold my baby, and she was like, no, you don't
need to sleep with your baby in the bed with you.
That's that's not safety. So it's she wheeled like the
little bacinet over to the side of the bed and
put him in it. And I was like, Okay, that's
not cool with me. That's not cool with me. You

(33:28):
took my baby away, wouldn't let me shower, and now
I can't sleep with him. I gotta leave him in
this hospital fucking approved bacinet thing on the side of
the bed. It's like separation, separation. Anything to do to
make you feel like shit and separate you from your.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Baby looks like a little Gerbil cage kinda.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Right, yeah, Like what do I want my baby in that?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Like?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Sorry, am I a fucking like my caveman? Because I
think I should just have a moment with my baby.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, they think that you're going to just snore and
roll over and suffocate your baby.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's like it's like I can get that on a level, right,
But it was only like ten o'clock at night, I know,
and you know, but I'll stay up till like two
in the morning. Sometimes you know what I mean. It
was like, it wasn't like I was about to just
like fall asleep on him. I just wanted to have
a but it's like they get to decide when you

(34:27):
have a moment, even though you just gave birth to
him five seconds ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
After the whole shower debacle, which really pissed me off,
and you know, finding out that I was the only
woman there, that it would have been easy, like the
easiest thing ever for her to go and start a
shower for me, and she just didn't feel like it.
I didn't. She didn't come back till like one in

(34:56):
the afternoon the next day to let me take a shower,
so correct and every so I wake up the next morning,
I'm even grosser now because I've sweated in my sleep
and like whatever, and they come in and they they
are so adamant that you need to be taking thailand

(35:16):
all and advil like every couple hours, which you know, yes,
I just had a baby, but I wasn't like hurting
to the point where I needed to take Ivory pro
profen and Thailand all every couple hours. And they were
so happy to fucking walk in there with their little
dixie Cup with the fucking thailand all and advila I

(35:37):
I was. I even said like, I don't want this,
and they would be like, well, you need it, and
as like, fuck you, I don't want it with their
little fucking cup and their little fucking dancing in there
with their thailando and yeah, I felt like fucking one

(35:58):
flew over the cuckoo's nest meds time. I don't want it.
I don't even want it. They didn't offer me. I
was in there, okay, So here's where it starts. Is
really horrible. They said, after you have the baby, we
only asked that you stay here for twenty four hours

(36:18):
for observation and since we had to do the section
and like whatever, we just want to make sure both
of you are okay.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
And make sure.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
They said, yeah, right, thanks, And they said they said
that I had pre ecclampsia, which is I never confirmed that,
but they said that I had it and my blood
pressure was all fucked up. So I agreed for the
twenty four hours. Right, fine, I'll stay twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
They offered me no food while I was there the
entire time. I had Colby the only thing that was available.
In the area was Taco Bell. So I've literally just
giving birth, can't shower, feel like shit, and now I'm
eating Taco Bell. They offered me no fucking food the

(37:10):
entire time I was there, and their words, not mine.
I was getting princess treatment because I was the only
woman in the center. If that's the princess treatment, I
don't want to fucking know what the people getting the
shit treatment shit. So the twenty four hours quickly turned

(37:33):
into forty eight hours, turned into oh, let's do just
do over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
And they would never fucking explain to me why they
were making me stay longer. He was healthy, I was healthy.
You know, Colby was sleeping on like a fucking cot
and like, we are literally just trying to survive. Now
a beautiful moment that could have been fantastic has now
turned into a prison sentence. Won't let me out. I

(38:02):
felt trapped in there and still no food. I'm starving,
can't get milk because I'm hungry, stressed, out, traumatized, and
you know, they wheel the little cart in there and
they're like, okay, vaccines, right, and I'm like so, so
I'm getting treated like complete dog shit and you roll

(38:25):
your fucking vaccine fucking tray in here, and I just
lost it at that point I was seeing red. I
fucking I couldn't take anything else. I was like, yeah,
no vaccines, thank you. And they were like, well, you know,
if you're not going to do vaccines, you got to
read this brochure and then you got to sign this paper.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
You don't have to sign it. If you sign it,
then they use it against you in court. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I'm sorry, Well no, no, I'm You're exactly right, that's
the thing. But they don't tell you that.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
No right, yeah, I say, oh, well you're not taking
care of your kids. See there's proof written, and uh,
it's it's like the the way the government controls. I mean,
that's like overhanging the way the hospital controls, you know
what I mean. And yes, yeah, it's sick.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
And they and the nurses, like some of them I
feel like, could have been genuinely good people, but they
have been so conditioned and brainwashed as to if you're
not following these steps, then you're a bad mom. So
that first night that they rolled the fucking vaccine tray
in there, whatever vaccine like, it's like orders, no.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Thank you. Wow, oh, we'll just take that one. Looks
sweet and ye I mean yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
So I was like, no, no vaccines. And then they
were like, well, you got to read this brochure and
then you got to sign this paper. And then it
was the next thing.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I'm sorry, but they don't tell you to read the
the pamphlet on the vaccines before you do.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
The vacin Oh no, no, no, yes, that would make
so So that would make more sense to me than
than declining the vaccine and then having to read a
brochure on why they're so good for your baby. Like
if they were like, here's two brochures, here's the pros,

(40:24):
here's the cons. Make a decision, and then let me know.
They just roll the tray in there like well, of
course you are, of course right, So you know, I
was like, okay, yeah, whatever, I'm good on that. The
next thing was the heel stick where they tell me this, yeah,

(40:51):
tell me this is not ritualistic in nature. Okay, they
prick the heel of the baby. They say they're going
to sleep through it. They don't. They fucking screamed their
head off. Yeah, and uh, they collect they milk it,
by the way, because it's not like they yeah, it's
not like you prick it and then they get a
drop and go, no, they have it's a prolonged you know,

(41:13):
they have to endure at least like five to six
minutes of getting blood.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Like a little violin. They just let it drip in there,
don't Why don't they have a better process? Like what
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
And what? Like, what the fuck really is this this
fucking ritual that we do, Like right, he was just born.
Why are we sticking needles in them and milking blood
out of their body? Okay? And then they're like, you know, uh,
the and it doesn't get processed in the state fucking

(41:46):
or in the.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
In oh yeah you got glitchy, you.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Got there, you are, oh sorry, And.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
And it doesn't get processed in the state or whatever
is what I heard you say last Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I mean to say, it doesn't get processed in like
the hospital lab. They fucking have to send it out somewhere.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Actually I asked where it goes when I was at
the place, and they said that it goes to the state,
goes to the government, like they have the card where
they do like the little dop that they do dots
of blood on the card and these little squares that
gets filed away. That's the DNA. Now he's got your

(42:25):
kid's DNA. The government has it. But I mean, well
they were going to get it anywhere. They could pick
up a soda can at when he's five years old after,
you know, like they could they could get it. But
it's just like they demand it. You must, so that yeah,
that's they wanted.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
They want you to do some fucked up blood ritual
with it and fucking stick him and milk the blood
out and then send it away to the state of
wherever the fuck you're from.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Right, and it you know, uh, the old in the
old days when they would have blood rituals, they would
soak the blood into paper. That's interesting, just like what
they're doing here, right, They soaking it in the paper
and this so this paper is not only the DNA,

(43:14):
but it's also the actual blood. So they can do
some black magic ritual and have the actual blood of
your kid for whatever. You know, so like be uh
you know, I don't know, you might have glitched a
little bit. Yeah, so like they took the blood they

(43:34):
because that's there, you know, that's the tax they paid, right,
because they want the whole baby dead, but they all
they can get is the little piece of blood because
you won't allow it.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Right, right, I mean, and that's and it's just a
normal part of like they wheel the fucking card in there,
and they just assume that you want that. They also
assume that you want some kind of antibiotic fucking this
is this goes along with guy eyeballs, the and the eyes.
So this, it goes along with them them making you

(44:05):
feel like you're disgusting because it's like, your vagina is
so disgusting that we need to put anti bacterial ointment
in your baby's eyes to keep them from getting your
nasty vagina juice in their eye. It's like inside my
body for nine months, you fucking assholes. He's part of me, right,

(44:30):
but my nasty vagina is so dirty and disgusting you
got to put anti bacterial ointment in his fucking eyeballs
the second he comes out.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
It's satanic, really, so like you're The truth is your
vagina juice has healing natural properties, and the baby shouldn't
be washed like for a while first, like I don't know,
two weeks or something. It should be have that juice

(45:00):
on his skin. It's helpful for him to grow and
to develop. So they are wrong. The truth is your
vagina juice is healthy and good for the baby. It's
supposed to be on the baby's skin. And it's best
for mother not to wash your baby for the first
like couple of weeks because that it helps for their

(45:22):
immune system and for their development as a baby, you know.
And that's one of the things that like when women
have c sections, they their baby doesn't get that because
it doesn't come for the vaginal canal, and so that's
one of the things that's lacking. But so it's good
to have the vagina juice on there. You know. They're wrong,

(45:44):
totally wrong.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
And it's an inversion of reality. Like your vagina is
so disgusting and nasty that your baby's eyes need to
be literally filled with antibiotic goopy ointment, right, fucking neospor.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
And ship probably made from you know, uh, petroleum jelly
out of.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Oh my vagina is toxic, but the petroleum's not like
you want to squirt in his eyes.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, right, it's like the portal of life and like, oh,
it just squirt some anti bacteria.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, I want the Rockefeller Special in my baby's eyes
the second he comes out, like, yeah, you're right, You're right.
I'm so nasty and gross. I want fucking Rockefeller jelly
in his eyes.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
And if you refuse, then you must be such a.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Bad, bad mom, is what they treated me like. So
it started with that because I was like, no ointment
in the eyes, no vaccines, Oh well, now you got
to read this booklet. Okay, no heelstick, Oh well, you
got to read this booklet. She talked to me for
like five minutes, right about the fucking heel prick. Right,

(47:03):
Why is it that important that you got to take
five minutes in my precious time that I just gave
birth to listen to your fucking mouth for five minutes
about the heelstick? Okay?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
They I mean, they were going hard at me about
vitamin K and like they were sending they sent in
the priest like it was at a Roman Catholic birthing center.
Like they were going like for hours, trying to hardcore.
And I was like, why is it that six babies
in one hospital in Nashville that diet has anything to
do with my baby? You know? But they they keep

(47:36):
going hard. So this is what we're going to talk
about here today. Please continue.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
So, as you mentioned the vitamin K. This is this
is the point of contention where things started going off
the rails because I said no vitamin K and they
decided to regale me on all ways that my baby

(48:02):
could get infected after his circumcision.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Oh, that you're obviously going to be doing right.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
That I'm obviously going to be doing great.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
That's the only reason I don't do K right right, So, like,
that's they go hand in hand, Vitamin K and certain decision.
The vitamin K keeps them, helps their blood clot keeps
them from bleeding out and dying when they have the
certain decision. Yes, so like you could just choose not

(48:34):
to cut your baby, but we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
I guess yes, because you know, if I'm doing no
vax and no ointment and no heelstick, I'm obviously not
cutting my baby's penis off.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
So yeah, he regales me.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
I say, you might as well just get the whole
thing off if you're going to go that far, I mean,
come on, like you do, you're mutilating it at that point.
It's it's a shell of what it was supposed to be.
So I mean, I know it sounds bad to say
cutting my baby's penis off, but you might as well
at that point because you've just made.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
That actually happens many times when women consent to having
their babies circumcized. Whoops, the doctor cuts off the internal
part of the penis as well as the.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Whoops. Yea they gave that shot.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Grow up like that.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I mean, it's so impersonal too. So the nurse she's
she's like, well, the vitamin K is this, and that
brought me another brochure and how to fucking go over
that with me? And then it's like, I know five
women who didn't get the vitamin K shot and they
couldn't find anybody to circumcise their babies because they didn't
get the vitamin K shot. The fear mongering is.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Real, so scary what, oh terrified? The foreskin is worth
thousands to the medical industry, and the doctor will get
at least four hundred for doing the procedure, and oh,
why won't they do this to my baby? Please murderalize him? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Sorry, So in the middle of this story that she's
telling me about these women, she knows that they couldn't
even find a doctor to do the circumcision because they
didn't get the vitamin case shot. I go. I said,
let me just stop you right there. Okay, he's not
getting circumcised, and she was like he's not. No, he's not.

(50:36):
And she was like looking at Colby like he was
gonna fucking protest or something like of course.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
It's like it's like, are you okay with this?

Speaker 1 (50:47):
This is all she's having her own opinion. She's not
allowing us to torture your baby. What pry different?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah, yeah, And it's like, so he's not. You're just
not like you're just not, Like no, I'm fucking not.
Thank you for asking why I'm fucking and just save
your stories about the doctors who they couldn't find to
do it because of the vitamin case. And it's like
they keep in it. Well, you should read this brochure
on it. I'm not even shitting to you. There was

(51:23):
the brochure for everything.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
It's like it's like you're going to the bank and
they're trying to sell you alone or whatever. They here's
a brochure for this one man. So like okay, this
so they got you. They are dumbfounded that after all
of this you complying with them and their will upon
your baby. All of a sudden, they're like, whoa, you

(51:48):
got some You're giving pushback and they're like, hey, husband,
do you control her right? Please?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
What's your bitch in line?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Right yeah? And the thing is it is like I
was very protective of my baby while he was inside me, obviously,
but the second you see their little face and you
know that you are their only hope on this planet
and that you would throw yourself on a thousand swords
to protect that baby, they started getting another fucking version

(52:24):
of me up in that bitch because I was like, yeah,
you know, with the catheter and like the that's my body, Okay,
I'll take the punishment of whatever so I can get
my baby out safely. Once he was out, they fucking
didn't recognize the person that was laying in that bed
because I was throwing shade at everybody. I was like,
don't come in here. On the fucking I think they

(52:46):
were starting to like talk amongst themselves before they came
in my room. Because I was just on one.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I was like.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
No, no, no, no, and so things, yes, you have
to and so he's perfectly how he came out of
my body. No ointments, no cuts, no stabs, no you know, blood, ritual,
milking and all this. He's just how he came out

(53:14):
of my body. And you know, they start doing this thing.
The next day they were like, every time he cried,
they wouldn't allow me to soothe my baby. Every time
he cried, they came into the room and tried to
remove him from me, and they would say, well, have

(53:35):
you changed his diaper? Is he hungry? Have you done this?
Have you done that? And Colby and I started to
look at each other and it was like, they think,
because I have not allowed this process to unfold the
way that they wanted, that I am a dare look
to mother. I didn't cut my baby's keenis or get
him you know what I'm saying. So they every thirty
minutes they came in and tried to remove him from me,

(53:58):
and then they tried to prol my hospital stay as
if I was doing something to harm him. And so
the second day that we were the no, I think
it was the morning of the third day because they
said we'll release you tomorrow, and it would kept moving
right then it was tomorrow, then it was tomorrow. I

(54:19):
looked at Colby and she said, by tomorrow morning, we'll
have the papers and you know, you just got to
sign them and we'll release you. And then came in
and they were like, we've decided, you know, we'll talk
about it again this afternoon. And I looked at Colby
and I said, pack our shit up. We're getting the
fuck out of here. And so we literally, you know,

(54:40):
I have a newborn baby, and I'm throwing ship and pads,
I you know, whatever. I think I'm gonna need for
the post, but I'm just throw it all in a bag.
Throw all of this shit in a bag, and we're
getting the fuck out. And the nurse came in and
she was like, you can't. You're leaving under medical advisory.
You can't. You have and they brought a team in

(55:04):
to try to stop us from leaving a team of
bitches came in my room to stop us from leaving.
Five different bitches up in my room telling me that
we couldn't leave, and I said, I said, we're getting
the fuck out of here, okay, And they were like, well,
you have to sign this form. I'm terrified. I gotta

(55:29):
sign your fucking form so I can't fucking get the
fuck out of here. So they said, and just so
you know, your medical insurance will probably not cover the
year birth because you're leaving against hospital advisory. You're leaving
on your own volition against medical advisements. So you gotta
sign this form that your insurance might not even I said, bitch,

(55:53):
give me the form. We're getting the fuck out of here.
And they literally had a team come in there and
tell me all the ways that I was like failing
because I was getting my baby out of there. I
was like, first off, he's got a rash, and one
of the nurses was like, yeah, well it's probably from

(56:15):
you know, we use some really toxic chemicals to wash
our linens. Great, And I was like, so you want
me to stay here with your Rockefeller ointment and your
jabs and you stabs, and you want to cut my
baby's penis off, and you want me to literally swaddle
him in toxic fucking fumes from your toxic ass fucking

(56:35):
laundry basket and you and you're saying I'm a bad
mom because I'm getting the fuck out of here. They
looked at Colby like he was some kind of child molested.
They were like, oh, my god, Like they were literally
freaking the fuck out because they have never ever seen
someone exercise any monoicum of fucking sovereignty over themselves or

(56:59):
they're babies. They had they they had to look at
in a file cabinet from fucking nineteen eighty two to
find the form that said you can leave against I mean,
nobody signs this form. They never have to pull it out.
It had fucking cobwebs and shit. It's like, give me
the form. You did not scare me. I'm not scared
of your fucking form. Bring me the fucking form. We

(57:23):
are out of here, do you ender see? I mean,
we are leaving this bitch now. So you know, we
signed the form and you know, whatever they were. And
after we got home, I was talking to my sister
about it, and she was like, I wouldn't be surprised
if they called like DHS on you, right that, because

(57:45):
they do do that a lot.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
And I was like, I would love for DHS to
show up at my house right now because saatment. Yeah,
it's like I have a clean home. I love my
babies more than myself, like more than life. You know,
we have a clean environment, safe environment, I've got, you know,

(58:10):
any possible thing you could imagine for a baby to have.
He has right you know, you know, we went above
and beyond for him. So it's like, I would love
for DHS to show up right now and tell me how.
You know, I've been a derelict mother.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Let me see the wound on the end of his penis.
He doesn't have a wound there. You're a bad mom.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
So what ended up happening is because I'm a derelict mother.
They scheduled all these appointments for us to have to
show up to and if you don't, then they have
a reason to you know, called DHS on you do that.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Huh. So these are the after care appointments.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Where they, like you would think so, but it was
a bunch of random, bullshit, nonsense appointments just to see
if we'd show up.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Oh wow, so this is a compliance test.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yes, it's a compliance test. Because the first one was like, well,
we just need to make sure what Colory is and
I was like, we've been in here for three fucking days.
If you guys haven't checked that already, I don't know
what the fuck to tell you. Okay, And then the
next appointment was like a nurse appointment to see, like
how my breastfeeding was going, something that could have been

(59:24):
handled over the phone, and it's not going well. Thank
you from the fucking PTSD you put me through at
the hospital. You know, I was so stressed out by
the time we got home. The weeks leading up to
his birth, I was hand expressing and using a pump
and getting a ton of colostrum and I was like
stocking up. I was like, oh, yeah, it's gonna be great.

(59:46):
The day we came home from the hospital, I was
completely dried up.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Not a drop it's got to be.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
That's what I'm saying is they tortured me, okay, traumatized me,
and then they didn't send me home. I left, I escaped,
got the fuck out of there, and then I couldn't
feed my baby. I would sit with that pump strapped
up for hours and hours and hours and get like
a drop of milk to come out. So on top

(01:00:16):
of this experience, which thanks a lot for nothing except
for they delivered my baby safely into the world, I
guess I can give them that. I now have to
give him formula, which is not ideal, and I don't
need to tell you why you would never want to

(01:00:37):
have your baby exclusively living off formula. I literally just
told my mother in law like an hour ago. I
was like, could I try maybe in a couple months
to like get my milk back? Like I feel guilty.
I feel horrible because as a woman, you want your
body to be able to produce sustenance for your baby,

(01:00:57):
and so it's just like an ongoing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Think of it this way, though, you actually made the baby,
would shoot, right, I mean making not making milk is
like one thing, but at least I mean before you
they were like, you can't even make a baby, so right,
you are already ahead of the curve, and like, don't
get down on yourself about that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
It's hard not to. I think it's a natural instinct
for women to feel like a failure if they can't
feed their baby, because if this was like nineteen oh two,
my baby would be dead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
They do have a mother like actually my mother was
a she would donate her breast milk to mothers that
in your situation, and maybe there's this, you know, or
even a webbed donor milk right donor milk and you know,
like depending on how fresh, like they can keep it.

(01:01:50):
I don't know if it's good. But around where you're at,
maybe there's other mom like you know, moms that keep
milking and you know, after like their babies are weaned,
they can still be helpful. And may.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
You know, women who do that are selfless, and I
think that they're heroes to other women like me who can't.
You know, that's such a selfless act, is to donate
sustenance for your own baby to somebody else's baby, Like
that's such a beautiful, wonderful thing. But I mean, I
would say, like throughout my life, I've been traumatized by

(01:02:32):
them medical industrial complex. You know, since I was a kid.
They have done everything they can to assault my reproductive system.
And I know that I'm not the only person who
has this story, you know, and I think that there
are many women out there who may even have an

(01:02:52):
identical story to this. Maybe not the horrible birthing experience
of like not being able to leave the fire hospital,
but yeah, I mean it's like they try to hold
you hostage after you've just had a newborn baby, and uh,
it's gross, like why like and by the way, I

(01:03:16):
was hungry piste off hadn't showered, and you know, my
taints busted wide open, stitched up, and you guys are
holding me hostage in here? Am I holding my baby hostage?
Every thirty minutes, they'd come in and try to take
him away from me, and they think that this is
so cut his penis off. You know, let me take

(01:03:39):
him away from his mom every chance I get. Let's
stab him up with stuff. You know, let's do and
if you don't, then it's like, well, your insurance might
not even pay for this now because you didn't do exactly. Oh,
by the way, they did so thanks. It's like they
just do stuff for to make you terrified. Compliance yes,

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because I know when she said that, she thought I
was going to say, oh, well I can't afford.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Fuck you, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
They didn't even they didn't. We were just walking with
our bags and I was just like bye, like I'm
getting out of here. So they gave us a card
and all of the nurses signed it and they were
like congrats whatever, and I was like this, they must
have been like so pissed that they had to give

(01:04:33):
us like this thing. Just sign this ship this lady,
get her out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
But you know, I was talking to my husband about
it and this experience, and because you would think, like
in a hospital, like in this birthing center situation, that
they would want to try to get you out of there,
like and I've heard that before that they tried just
like like a turn and burn. You know, you're in

(01:05:02):
there and then they try to get you out. But
in my situation, because I was the only woman in there,
I think they were trying to milk my fucking insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
That makes perfect sense, yeah, doesn't it though.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Yeah, I'm the only one in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
There, and I mean, you're if they can make money
out of you, then that's you know, you're the only one.
And so they're just kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Coming in there with their fucking advolent tyland all cups
every hour on the hour. It's like every actual is
like a thousand bucks, you know exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, you're right, and every overnight stay
is even more like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
And to think about this, I didn't do any extracurricular
activities to the baby. They got to make money somehow.
They didn't get money for the jab, they didn't get
money for the ointment, they didn't get money for the cutting.
My baby's peen this off, right, they.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Didn't shows that they cut that, you know that foreskin
is worth them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
And I made them give me my placenta.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Oh good, we did that too. Yeah right, that's another
big thing that they want to keep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah, I'm eating it currently.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Oh nice, Do you put it in little pills and
make the y.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah. But you know, they didn't make any fucking money
off of me except for that I gave birth there,
so that of course they're wanting me to stay days
and days on end. All the things that they would
normally like reakin the cash, right, the ointments in the shots,
and the procedures.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
And the you know, they the strap all of the
monitors that they strapped to you like, all that stuff
is up too, like all the ultrasounds every thirty minutes
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
So they weren't able to capitalize on my hospital, and
they weren't able to capitalize on my newborn. So they
were just trying to keep me in there as long
as possible. And it's like, you know, I got to
thinking to myself, you know, them trying to force me
in to take in advil every couple of minutes and
doing this and doing that, and like I would say, hey,

(01:07:19):
can I get like can I get? Can I get
a pump so I can try to get some colosterrum
going so I can feed my baby. All that was
money for them, And then they would come in there
and like take my top off and start trying to
milk me like a fucking cow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
That works there, and it's like, oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Chance, I don't need your help for this. Back the
fuck off, And I kept telling.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
That's what yes, Like, all I kept thinking to myself
was if more motherfucker comes in this room and grabs
my tit or tries to touch my baby, or make
me read a brochure or sign this paper or tell
me in all the ways, I'm failing because I haven't
done this like criteria of things that they that I'm

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supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I mean, we literally listeners out there, they're expecting mothers
are all like, oh my.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
God, I hope to god this story will prepare you
for what they will try if you're not prepared, because
if you just roll in there, it's like what happened
to me when I was in labor. Oh well we
went ahead and started this for you, or we went
ahead and we're gonna do this for you. Oh, by
the way, we don't want you to pee on us.

(01:08:45):
So here's a catheter roll over. Here we go, Jam.
It's like you have to prepare yourself to know where
you're lying in the sand is basically right, because when
you're in that much pain, I'm telling you, it's hard
to think straight. It's like your brain is swollen and
decision making goes out the fucking window.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
So after he was born, though, and I had the
constitution to start fucking making better decisions. Uh, they they were,
I'm sure they were not happy with me because everything
was an argument and everything was you know, uh, the
the lady with the fucking stories about how I was

(01:09:29):
gonna I wasn't gonna be able to find somebody to
circumcise him, and it's like, just shut up, stop talking, please, But.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
We want to sacrifice the kids of Moloch later, and
we got to have the mask fit his face properly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
So yeah, it's like, just stop talking, like I'm not
listening to you, I'm not doing any of this. Ship
I'll sign your fucking paper that I'm a bad mom
because I don't want to do it or whatever the
fuck it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
So I mean You're the cosmic mom. Now you're right,
you know, like I think that you are like way
this is. You are the example that all moms need
to be. I mean, whether like your situation happened like that,
other moms will have a different situation, but the standing
firm and saying no, that's how to do it. And

(01:10:22):
you win. You got your baby home and he didn't
have any anything pooping his lungs or whatever. They fixed that,
you know, and they they did give you some trauma,
but they didn't cut him, they didn't chab him. You
really know, has kept him perfect. So congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
And I will say that they will make you feel
they'll gang up on you. Yeah, they'll send like three
different nurses in there to tell you like why it's
so important, and like even when we went back to
his pediatrician to like do the follow up appointment, they
will still regale you on why you need to be

(01:11:09):
doing like X, Y Z and how like if you
don't then you know, blah blah blah. The only reasons
they can give me for cutting his penis off is
that it's cosmetic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Oh it looks better, it's better, and then they look
over it. Dad, and say what she doesn't think it
looks better?

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Right, it's anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
It's your kid's penis. Why would your preference of penises
come into it, like your decision of like, oh maybe
I can imagine his little penis being hard and what
it's going to what the fuck exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
So you know, on top of all this, and if
if you know, if she lists to this, than my bad.
I'm saying this with love. But I called my sister
and you know, we were facetiming or whatever, and I
was trying to explain to her, like how horrible our
hospital stay was. And I was like, and I didn't
get him circumcised. And then this lady had to tell
me like five stories about why and this, and I

(01:12:19):
had to sign a paper and she was like, you
didn't get him circumcised, and then I had to hear
it from her ass. And then it was like, you know,
if they have to do you know that it'll get infected,
and like they'll have to do it when they're an
adult and it takes way longer to heal, and it's
way and it's you know, it's this and that, and

(01:12:39):
she said, I won't say who it is, but she said,
this person I know wasn't circumcised and they kept zipping
their dick up in their pants and they had to
get circumcised and it took a really long time for
them to heal because they were an adult and this,
and I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
We should wear five oh one with the buttons. Dude,
what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Why don't they have fucking underwear on? Why zip their
dick up right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
And user error?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
And how many times do you have to zip your
dick up in your pants? How many times did you
zip your dick up in your pants before you realize.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
And so my thing with that because I've heard many
stories of like, well, they'll just have to do it
when they're older, you know, when they're an adult, they'll
they'll still you're just saving time by doing it now
because they'll still have to do it later. And my
my answer to that is, well, that'll be his decision
when that time comes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yes, indeed, guess yeah, that's the that's the key, Like
who cares what kind of how good it is or bad.
It's not your dick to choose, not mine, right, And
like they you know, the whole thing of like, oh
well if we don't we just have to do it

(01:14:06):
now because in the future he won't want it done, obviously,
and it won't get done in the future obviously. Such
a terrific thing. And like when they're a baby, it's
way worse than when they if they get it done
when they're older, because the the foreskin or the prepuce
is fused to the glands, like your fingernail is fused

(01:14:30):
to your finger, and they have to tear that away
when it's a baby. When it's a like a grown child,
like a grown boy or whatever, it's it naturally separates,
just like the hymen or what you know, when when
the kid starts having a puberty it or even sooner,
but it naturally does that on its own. And also

(01:14:53):
people say like, oh, well, people believe that it has
to be retracted and cleaned inside.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Yes, that was something else I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
That's dirty, right, No, you don't. You don't clean inside.
It cleans itself like it has. The smegma is a
cleaning process, you know, yeah, natural and so like just like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
The vagina, right, yeah, should we cut it off because
you know what I'm saying is like that doesn't make
any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Some satanist in a black rope might be like, yeah,
I cut.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
It off, cut it off. Should we cut our noses
off to while our mouths off?

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
It's to drip out of my nose sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Off, Like every part of the human body has some
weird liquid that comes out of it. Should we cut
our eyes out? Cry? Like with the every single part
has like a fluid that does a cleaning process.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I mean exactly. That's and the problem and the people
have been taught, like in this circumcising age, people have
been taught, oh well, yeah he keeps his foreskin okay,
but you still got it clean in there, right. Parents
will retract when there's still a baby or when they're
still young, to clean in it because they think it's

(01:16:16):
their duty to clean inside. And that retraction tears because
it's like fused, and that terring can be even worse
than a regular than a circumcision is. And then when
it heals back, it's all fucked up, so they have
to circumcise after the tear. So like that's one of
the things. Do not retract obviously, you know, don't put

(01:16:40):
soap in it, like you know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Clean I mean, if you're so retarded to keep zipping
your dick up in your pants. I mean, maybe you
deserve to be circumcised. That's a joke. But if he
gets older and he is of whatever, a it's bothering
him or something, if it's something we couldn't talk through together,

(01:17:06):
it's his decision whether or not he wants that I'm
not doing. I'm not making that decision for him. And yeah,
and the thing is, it's it's like for me, it's
like getting a kid's ears pierced. Getting you know, it's
like why you know, a lot of people take their
babies to get their ears pierced and they're screaming their

(01:17:27):
heads off and it's like, well they're cute. Now, that's
the same thing. It's like, Okay, you're saying it's purely cosmetic,
but I need to do it right now while he's
just came out of the uterus. I gotta do it
right now. And it's just like it can't happen later
if he decides that's what he wants, it has to
happen right now because.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
It would happen again. If you leave the hospital, you
might think twice, and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
You know, it's so stupid to think like I took
information that you gave me from the first time that
we talked about this, we watched videos of moms talking
about changing their baby's diaper. Yeah, when they're freshly circumcised.
That was so grotesque to me that I couldn't even

(01:18:12):
then we listened about that mom that was like, my
baby was like this. I took him in and it
was like I betrayed him, and he knew I betrayed him.
The baby was different after she got like imagine that. Yeah, yeah,
and so for me, and then like I went in

(01:18:33):
as any conspiracy theorist does, did my own research on it,
and it's like this does not need to fucking happen.
But they will regale you at the hospital about all
the oh well my friend and she and the vitamin CA.
It's like, first off, no to all of everything you
just said, Like, think about having to inject your baby

(01:19:00):
with a synthetic substance to clot his blood because when
you do this procedure, the likelihood of him bleeding out
is so high that that you have to get this
vitamin K injection.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Yeah, and even when you get the vitamin K, they
still bleed out. I mean, right, diaper is like full
of blood, like they don't have that much blood in
their little baby body. And these babies, just like the
sudden infant death syndrome is, that's because circumstision, you know,

(01:19:34):
like I mean, all of this. It's like if people
don't want to just oh, coat under the rug, we
don't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
No, let me read you something. Let me just read
you something. Right as it is newly November, this still
applies because it was this is a recent thing that
I came across. It says October is Sudden Infant Death
Syndrome Awareness Month. They get their own month, like you know,

(01:20:01):
fucking Pride months. Did you know this is? Did you know?
Sixty two point seven percent of sudden infant death syndrome
cases occur within three days of vaccination. Eighty nine point
six percent of sudden infant death syndrome happens within seven

(01:20:21):
days of vaccination. Ninety seven percent of all sudden infant
death syndrome cases occur within ten days of vaccination. Ninety
seven percent occurs within ten days of vaccination. That goes

(01:20:42):
along with what for boys, circumcision, that they do it all,
they do it all at one time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
ninety seven percent. Imagine buying a car and the guy
tells you ninety seven percent of people who buy this

(01:21:07):
car it explodes on them within ten days of owning it.
Would you fucking buy that car?

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Probably not we would you buy the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Car with a sixty two point seven percent chance that
it explodes within three days of You know, what I'm
saying is like, the odds are ridiculous that this is connected,
like ninety seven percent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
It only makes sense that we are living through a
mass culling of the population, right, I mean, this is
kind of the overall, like I mean, to chop a penis,
that's like destroying the generative abilities of the next generation. Right.
But they were going directly after your your womb. They

(01:21:54):
were yes, attacking you since you were first had blood
like you've yes f grade, and they were giving you
the milk and all the food and whatever to make
you have blooded fourth grade, you know, like they controlled
that your whole like and they were like, Nope, this
one's not having a baby, you know, we don't. Yeah,

(01:22:17):
we don't need any more of this kind of person.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Just well and then you as you get older into
like high school, and you realize all the girls your
age were put on that, yeah, like it's like a
generation of women, right, and so it's it's a concentrated
assault and to go after the womb in this way

(01:22:43):
with young girls, and you know, going to fourth grade
and having to learn how to change your pad and stuff,
it's embarrassing because like you're like, what the fuck is this?
You're still a baby kind of in fourth grade. And
I remember going to like the doctor and them telling

(01:23:03):
my mom, you know, she needs to be started on
birth control pills whatever. I didn't even underfucking stand what
that was, and they encouraged that I go ahead and
start using tampons, which I felt like, looking back on it,
I was way too young to even know what a
tampon was or start using them, you know. And I

(01:23:25):
remember like, uh, go that summer, I was like wanting
to go to the pool with my friends, and my
mom was like, you got to learn how to use
a tampon because you can't wear a pat in the pool.
And you know, it's just there was such a concentrated
assault on young women. And the more I talk to

(01:23:46):
other women about this, it's like, oh, I have the
same story. You know, the gardasil, the pcos, the cysts,
the infertility issues.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Another big one that has happened with the birth control
and guardacil use is women developed in endometriosis, which is
basically like the internal lining of your uterus just decides
to grow on the outside of your uterus for whatever reason,
and the probability of conceiving when you have that is

(01:24:19):
extremely low. So you know, I because and then I
finally got pregnant, and I did have a lot of issues,
and they said I was a knemic and then I
had to get like iron infusions, and so it's like
the health of women has been severely impacted. I think

(01:24:42):
it's been, like I said, like a total assault on women.
And the breastfeeding thing too. It's like it's becoming more
and more common for women to not even be able
to do it at all, even if they want to.
Like me, and I'm sure I have like the best

(01:25:02):
formula I could find, but it's still formula, you know,
And I would rather not for sure. But uh, I
think the way that they attack boys and the way
that they attack girls, and now it's like transing. And
when I took him to his first appointment, they made

(01:25:23):
me check these boxes. Does your baby identify as a
boy or girl? Does your baby identity? Does your And
I read it to my husband. I was like, it's
asking me if our newborn identifies as a boy or
do do I identify my baby as a boy. It's
like is this is this? Like it's literally, like I said,

(01:25:45):
some kind of dystopian nightmare where it's like now we
call them babies instead of babies because it's like, you know,
they haven't decided what their gender is yet.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
They have a new form in Massachusetts. I think they're
using it where it's not mother father, it's parent one,
parent two, and they can have a list of like
six people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Oh fabulous.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
It's like what is going on? Yeah right right yeah?
So like I mean it's like we're being turned into
the borg. Like I don't know if you watch Star
Trek in the old day, the Big Cube of Black Cube,
but like, uh, the people with wires all you know,
like just like you when you strapped out in the bed,

(01:26:33):
like looking wires everywhere you like, yeah, dude, yeah, that's it.
They want you to have besterile, become a robot and
do what they say, right, and they want to control
your reproduction completely, Like it is sick. I mean, it
is a death cult, and birth is the opposite of

(01:26:54):
what they want in this world. So of course they're
attacking you at every turn, every chance you every thought
you have, they're gonna be like, that's wrong, your bad mother.
Like they're gonna give you shame and fear and like,
you know, threaten your finances, like and then basically just
strap you down while you're having trauma, like you know,

(01:27:16):
the pain of like contractions and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Ship they're like childbirth literally, right, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
The thing too, is like when we walked out of
there and we were just like fuck you by the
look of pure shock and astonishment on their faces. Yeah,
they were absolutely mortified that we would have just gotten

(01:27:44):
the like hello, I don't live here, I don't fucking
know you. I don't want to be here anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Bye.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
They don't understand that that you could be a sovereign
person and take you and your baby and get the
fuck out. It's like, we own this baby. What do
you mean you can't just take this baby and go. Yeah,
I can watch me walk out the fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Door with it, right, I'll sign your form.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Oh I'm so scared, terrified, Like what they think that
scares people that Oh I had I don't want to
sign anything. I don't want to Ooh you're scaring me?
Fuck you right? How about that? I mean, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
It's just like I love that your voices on my
show saying that, because really that's the that is the
pure essence of what a real mom does. You know,
Like it's not just dad who protects right, and like
you said before, like you're his only hope he can't

(01:28:49):
speak or help himself, Like you have to protect his penis.
You have to protect his bloodstream and all the other
things eyeballs and you know I'm saying like you and
you had to be vigilant and say no, no, and
be sure they weren't already doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
You knowbody Really like it's protecting his spirit, right because
you know, I can only do so much for his
physical body because things are going to happen. You know,
when we brought him home from the hospital, we couldn't
get the formula right, and he was gassy and he
was this and he was uncomfortable and you want to

(01:29:27):
be able to help him, but you can only do
so much and we tried to, you know, but I
can do I can protect his spirit. I can. I
can uh him, Yes I did, I did. But I
think it's a spiritual thing to allow your baby to
remain completely intact how it came out of your body.

(01:29:50):
I think, you know, I constantly think back to that
mom who said when I took my baby and I
got him back, he he was absolutely a different child
and he knew I betrayed him. That stuck with me.
I will never forget that. I can't imagine what that

(01:30:10):
would feel like to look in the eyes of your
newborn baby and know that you've betrayed them. I think
it's a spiritual thing, and you know I can. I
can only do so much if his tummy hurts or
like whatever that's gonna happen. But I can protect him
from getting stabbed and cut on and jabbed, and you

(01:30:30):
know they want to fill your baby up with like
toxic shit and cut their stuff. You know, it's like,
yeah that you can't. You can absolutely prevent.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
We can. It's so easy, just say words and the
word is real simple, so only the two letters know, right,
So it's like I just I just want people because
compliance is so easy for people. They're trained into it.
Their whole life. They go to school. Okay, I'm gonna
do what you say. Yes, I'll do it. Okay, I
must do what you say. Okay, I'm right, you're the authority,

(01:31:09):
you know. But all of a sudden, no matter what
they did, like they got some like other nurse and
this other doctor guy. Look, this one's wearing a coat,
and oh, this one they with us. They even brought
in a priest. I'm like a priest laughingly. Yeah, the
dude was wearing a collar. Black, whole thing came in.
He gave us like a little wooden cross like a gift.

(01:31:32):
That was his excuse for coming in. And then he
started talking about the vitamin K you know, is vidamin K. Oh,
you're gonna really do this vitamin K? Like what the hell? Man? Like,
it was all angles they were coming at and the
place that I was at, they even had a uniformed
police officer with a gun walking around the hallways.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
I was like, what disgusting?

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
Yeah, whoa, it's disgusting, Like this is something that you
should be prepared for if you're going in blind and
just think you're gonna, oh, you're just gonna go in there,
and they're just gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Respect your wishes, which you they will do if you
make them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
If you're vigilant and harsh about it, like you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Were, right. But they're not just gonna be like fucking
mister Rogers about it. They're gonna make you feel like
you're a piece of trash because you didn't, you know,
do all this stuff. And you know, it's just like,
I love my mom, and I feel like she was
like the ultimate mom and the grand scheme of things,
but she was pressured into thinking that she was doing

(01:32:34):
something good for me right by consenting to whatever the
fuck this stuff was. And it's like gardasil is known
to cause infertility issues now, but back then they it
was like, oh, we're doing this great thing for young
women by preventing HBV and doing whatever. And you know,
years later, we're finding out that it does absolutely the opposite.

(01:32:58):
It just makes you stare and it makes you have
all the fucked up issues and you can still get
HPV and it's like, what what was it?

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
You know, right, what was it? It was a eugenics operation.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Yes, that's what I like. Now we find out what
it really was, you know, it wasn't about HPV. Shit, fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
That's like a boogeyman too, Like who knows what that's
what that whole thing is, Like, is it a fungus?
Is it a what? You know? Like they they don't
even know, like but I mean maybe I don't know what.
Maybe I shouldn't be speaking on that, but any in
any case, it is a death cult. That is like
it's a global death cult that gets filtered down through

(01:33:47):
the governments. And then under them is the hospitals, and
under them is the birthing center, and under them is
your midwife. And oh it's midwife. Oh like just like
if I was, you know, in some little cottage and
you know in eighteen hundreds, got.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Yeah, we'll just brain each other's pussy hair and like
grow up. That's what they want you to think.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Right, Yeah. But in the meantime, they want to fucking
take your placenta and sell that shit. Yeah, take your
everything and sell it and fucking black market everything. And
I mean they couldn't take the little baby out of
your womb before he was born and sell those parts.
I mean, so they're going to sell what they can,
like it's like a chop shop and you know, like, yes,

(01:34:33):
a bunch of criminals.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Okay, calm down, that's exactly I mean, no, that's exactly
how I feel about it. And like, going through that process,
it was just like, you know, you talk about stuff
on your show and you try to like inform people
and you try to yourself be informed on like the
possibilities of stuff happening, But when you're going through it,
you're like, all, this is so real. Yeah, Like this

(01:35:00):
isn't just like a podcast episode where we kind of
like go back and forth and we agree and understand
that these things are real. But when you're in the
middle of it and you're having to look these crazy
assholes in the eye with their fucking brochures and their
forms and shit, and they're like looking down on you,
and it's and the pressure is on for you to

(01:35:22):
like walk how you talk like, That's that's literally how
I felt. I was like, all this stuff that we
always talk about, and here I am, fucking they think
I'm a dear relict to mother because I don't want
to stay in the hospital, starving with no shower and
let them cut parts off my baby. And then you
go home and you're like, oh, I hope they don't

(01:35:43):
call DHS on me, like that should be the last
thing on your mind when you just brought a new
baby home. It's like, oh, I hope they don't think
I'm a you know, they need to do a home
visit because.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
It's just it's just like every encounter with the cop,
like oh no, oh no, I hope they don't put
me in jail. Like it's like just because you're encountering
the government for any reason, you have to be afraid,
you know, like they got your name now, oh god,
like they got papers. Yeah. Like I'm I'm just like,

(01:36:17):
I'm so glad that you spoke about this on your
show and you like had all of these like you
had these thoughts before the moment, and then when the
moment arrived, you stayed true to your principles and you
fought them and you win. Like like, I mean, this

(01:36:39):
is such a victory podcast. I'm so glad to hear
this story. Thank you. This is great. Can you tell
us what you're I mean, please tell me talk?

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Well, No, I was just gonna say, I hope this
inspires and also informs because the second time that we
had this conversation, it was because I was talking to
someone and they were oh, I'm gonna, you know, circumcise
my son. And I was like, have you listened to
this episode? I did. It was the first time we
talked to each other, and I was like, I guess

(01:37:12):
we need to redo this episode because it's been a while.
And I guess they, you know, can't take five minutes
to scroll down to the bottom of my feet or whenever.
So I was like, let's just do a new one.
It'll be at the top of the feet, which is important. Yes,
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
Even video of the baby screaming, like, oh god.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
It's disgusting. It's blood curdling, and it's, like I said,
every time we have this conversation, I like reinvigorated as
to how disgusting it is that people even do it.
But I'm glad you're talking about it on a big

(01:37:57):
show too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
I don't want to Oh yeah, hopefully it's still gonna happen.
It should be this Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Yeah, yeah, right. I don't want to say what it is,
but I'm you know, excited for you to be able
to go because you're literally the only person I ever
met who talks about it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
You right, well in congrats.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
I think that's awesome to be able to.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Cover it is. I mean, it's like it's awesome topic.
I don't know, it's it's a scary topic, but it's
something that is so important and it's like it is
and I will continue to talk about it like it was.
It affected me and I am changed now and like
if I can help others to not be damaged, you

(01:38:42):
know what I mean, if I care for others, so
I'm going to keep I could just be like I
hate myself and my broken dick, I'm just gonna go
do drugs or whatever shit. You know, I got this.
People are listening. You know, I got a voice, and
so I'm glad to be here talking about it. Like
if people are daring enough to listen to the truth,
that I will put it in their ear for sure,

(01:39:04):
you know. And thank you for thank you for bringing
this to our audience to speak from your perspective and
as the mom, the strong mom to say no, that
is very important and I'm glad that we have that
captured on my show for anybody to listen to now
for in the future. And you know, mothers that are

(01:39:26):
thinking should I serve and you know, like their husband
wants it done, and like the society thinks it's good
and all of this, do some you know, when they're
doing their please, I hope that they're doing their due
diligent and looking into their research and you know, learning
and doing their own research. They might come across these

(01:39:47):
videos and these are here free for you know, for
anybody to hear and listen to, and hopefully this will
help them to make a proper decision. We already told
them what the answer is. There's only one answer for
certain decision at least is no, because it's not your dick,
and you can't, like, you can't shop some of dude's
dick walking down the street. He might not like that,

(01:40:09):
So don't do it to your.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Yeah, and if you keep zipping it up in your pants,
fuck you. I don't know it's your problem.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
It's some buttonfly jeans.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Like wow, the cutting is not the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Yeah. Yeah, So like this is, I would like people
to hear where they can find you if they've never
heard you before. Please where can they find your work?

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Thank you? Yeah, and thanks for having me. I talk
about a lot of health stuff and just random conspiracy
stuff on my show It's Cosmic Peach Podcast. Yeah, I
I do natural healthcare stuff every now and again, but
I do enjoy joining with you, like with William Ramsey

(01:40:59):
and we talked about John Bennet, and I like to
cover a wide range of conspiracy stuff. It's not just
health stuff, but that is part of the conspiracy. You
want to cut your dick off and remove your uterus
if they can. So yeah, I mean, I'm I'm on
board with a lot of the stuff that you and

(01:41:20):
I have talked about in the past, like the you
know mc martin shit and the fucking program to kill stuff,
mind control. It's all real. So that's that's what I
cover on my show. And you know, we talk about
Stanley Kubrick all the time. It's it's always interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
So yes, yes, my listeners will love your show, that's
for sure. And you're, uh, you know, you're you've got
a fun, fresh attitude that is you know, it's refreshing
for my ears. I listened to your show and I'm
glad that you're out there doing it, so that's wonderful.
And all your links will be below so the listeners

(01:41:59):
can come and find you, and we hope to hear
from you again soon if you ever have any more
stories you want to bring to our ears. We're happy
to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
So absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
Awesome, wonderful, thank you for being here, and thank you
listeners for listening. We'll see you next time. S