Occult/Esoteric Symbolism: Kent State Shootings

What's up everybody! Today the Occult Rejects team up to discuss the Occult/Esoteric symbolism behind the false flag Kent State shootings. This one is super interesting and I learned a lot. Enjoy!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It takes a little tangle.

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This ain't my first time at the rodeos?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
You see, something's going to happen?

Speaker 7 (00:57):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
What's going to happen?

Speaker 8 (01:04):
Thank you?

Speaker 9 (01:07):
What quiet? Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode. We
have a packed house and even an overflow. I accidentally
had two extra people come onto the show, so this
should be interesting. We got twelve and I'll have to
toggle to in and out. But yeah, it's the Cult

(01:29):
Rejects Live and we got a fun ton of people
in different shows here and I'm just gonna have them.
We'll go through their names and plug their shows and
set of reading it off. But first we'll start off
with the Occult reject and mad scientist as Olf Lisa,
what is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
And thank you to the fellow Rejects for also having me.
I'm really excited. To engage in this discussion. And the
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(02:06):
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Speaker 9 (02:09):
Awesome, thank you very much and appreciate you joining us.
And then we got Hank. What is going on? Hank?
How will you?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
What's going on?

Speaker 10 (02:16):
Brother? I appreciate you having me on?

Speaker 9 (02:18):
Yes, yes, yeah, you want to let everybody know what's
up where they can find you? Stuck?

Speaker 8 (02:23):
That probably help. Yeah, I'm at the six four three
double play, but me and Kyle have a joint venture.
You can find us on Rumble at Sunday Night double Play.

Speaker 9 (02:32):
Awesome and thank you very much making it. And now
we got Kyle aka Chef. What is going on? My man?
Please let everybody know?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Happy Friday.

Speaker 10 (02:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:43):
Currently we are kind of focusing on the Sunday Night
double place, so you can find us over at Rumble, Spotify, Apple,
all the patchers, all the all the fun jazz, and
thanks for having us.

Speaker 9 (02:55):
Well, yeah, and what is your schedule? Normally do Sunday
at nights and Friday Night's live right or something like that.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of a long story.

Speaker 11 (03:02):
So I had a Sunday night Secret Society kind of
going through some changes right now. My old my old
co host is unfortunately living on the streets right now.
And Hank's co host actually passed away, and so him
and I linked up in the midst of.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
All the all the fuckery, if you will, and so yeah,
here we are all right.

Speaker 9 (03:27):
Well, thank you for making it. I appreciate it. And
Nick of course, and next LoVa, we got Julia Cosmic Peach,
what is going on?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (03:37):
Thanks for having me, Nick. I can feel it coming
in the air tonight. This is gonna be a good one.
Cosmic Peach, wherever you listen to podcasts, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Is it the usual?

Speaker 9 (03:50):
Awesome? No, thank you for joining us. Oh, he's appreciating
your input and what you bring to the show for sure.
And you know what, let's do ethan indigo, sir, what
is going on?

Speaker 13 (04:01):
Peace on Earth? Everybody honored to be here and being involved.

Speaker 14 (04:05):
This is going to be a really epic story with
some localism and some nationalism and maybe some worldly stuff
I can tell from what I heard. Yeah, Ethan Indigo Smith,
writer on Esoteric and Exoteric, and I'm on all the
usual suspects of the social media and honored to be
here with everybody.

Speaker 9 (04:25):
Well, thank you very much, Ethan. I appreciate you joining us.
And we got the man himself, the Headless Giant What
is going on?

Speaker 15 (04:31):
So thank you. Nick.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
You can find me on Twitter and YouTube. Just look
up the Headless Giant. And also if you have any
occult slash paranormal slash weird dream stories, you should email
them to me. I read them on Thursday nights. My
email address is Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com
and tune in check it out. It's a good time.

(04:55):
It's only about thirty minutes. But I've also got a
show with Ethan Days called The Trialogus, also with Roberto,
so check that out.

Speaker 9 (05:06):
Thanks. I highly suggest to check that show out of
people having it. It's a really good show. And we
got Brooke from doarg Florida. What is going on? Broke?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Hello, fellow rejects. Happy to be here tonight.

Speaker 16 (05:18):
I'm really looking forward to the discussion and seeing where
it takes us. You can find me on Instagram, at
Dark Florida podcast and wherever you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 9 (05:28):
Awesome, thank you very much, Broke, And we got my
boy Tyrone. What is going on?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
My man?

Speaker 9 (05:33):
Please let everybody know what the hell is up?

Speaker 13 (05:36):
Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 14 (05:37):
Man?

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for having me here rebirth atword dot com. That's everything
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Thanks awesome, thank you, thank you, And we got Phil.

Speaker 15 (05:55):
What is going on, bro not too much?

Speaker 10 (05:58):
Has everybody doing tonight?

Speaker 9 (05:59):
Wonderful?

Speaker 10 (06:01):
Excellent?

Speaker 18 (06:01):
Yeah, just uh, you know, just a reader, Researcher's been
lucky to be on your show, you know a few times.
And I love being able to talk conspiracies, history, deep
history and uh I'm on Twitter with Vic Foster and
I don't call it X but uh, just happy to
be here and whatever the subject is.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
Yeah, no, thank you. I appreciate it, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (06:25):
If there's other content creators out there that I don't
know who this guy is, check out the work he's
done on my show. When e we on JJ's show.
He's really good at at certain things that he covers. Uh,
this guy reads a book that he enjoys, so will
remember all of it pretty much. So thank you very much. Phil.
You you have brought some amazing stuff to the show
as well, So I appreciate you. And Uh, I think
we're done, and I think we're finally onto the man

(06:47):
of the next whatever, our and a half whatever, two
hours whatever? We got Matthew Lane, what is going on, sir?
How are you?

Speaker 18 (06:54):
Nick?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Thank you so much for having me. Kind of a
dream come true.

Speaker 15 (06:58):
Man.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I've been following a lot of you guys for quite
a long time, so it's an honor to be sitting
here talking to all of you today. I kind of
have no idea how unreal.

Speaker 9 (07:07):
This is for me.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
So hopefully I can knock this out of the park
and get through it without bouncing around too much, because
I promise you this information I'm about to lay out
is dense. There's a lot and it goes all over
the place. But yeah, dude, let's let's get into it.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
Yeah, already missed me?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Nick?

Speaker 10 (07:26):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (07:26):
Who's that?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (07:29):
Jules, Fuck, I'm so sorry. You know it was from
moving everybody around.

Speaker 19 (07:32):
Fuck my life, dude, I'm here a lot eloheem entomologists,
sound scientists. I got a lot of shows that I do.
You can find me on Twitter, great pulled pod, go
over to Patreon. We'll be doing some stuff over there

(07:52):
a couple of times tomorrow. So yeah, it's always a
good time over there, hang out with the rest of
the great Uh yeah, thank you, I know it's a
packed house.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Next and uh, very interested to see where this conversations go.

Speaker 9 (08:09):
Like I've said, it happened before where Headless actually had
a type in the fucking chat one time. I'm like, Yo,
you forgot about so and so.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Forgotten about me too?

Speaker 9 (08:22):
Uh so yeah, Matthew, Uh what's this topic?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Like?

Speaker 9 (08:28):
How did how did we come across this? What's up?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay? So I've been, you know, slowly looking at the
world around me after listening to all the podcasts, hearing
all the different stories that the old world, Tartaria, just
everything that's been popping up. If you listen to conspiracies
like even once every month, you're coming across this stuff.

Speaker 10 (08:48):
So I've just.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Been heavily noticing a lot lately. I've been having a
lot of random things kind of fall into my lap.
And I'm the type of person who I'm the only
person in the room that I know who's looking at things.
Let's flip that upside down and take another look at
it before we just come to a conclusion, people. So
I was just fiddling around on Facebook. I came across

(09:12):
a random post from my local kent Ohio Facebook page.
There's a young gentleman who was looking for a memorial
art in Towners Woods of my hometown of kent Ohio.
This art was supposedly dedicated to the four dead before
who were slain on that day by our National Guard.

(09:33):
And I'd been in those woods quite a few times.
I've never seen anything back there. I didn't know what
the hell this kid was talking about. And a few
days later he finds it, he posts the pictures of it,
and when I looked at it, my mouth hit the floor.
I was looking at four stone pillars and a portal,

(09:54):
a big metal disc with a tear ripped out of
it that almost fit the shape of these stone pillars. Now,
instantly I said, okay, four stone pillars, that's phallic. We
got a portal that is you're telling me represents the
death of four students, and I just felt like there

(10:16):
was some kind of energetic ritual going on just with
that art in those woods, because I know those woods
also have Indian burial mountains all over the place. There's
at least three. One of them had an ancient Indian
princess buried in it, So this area is highly energetic

(10:37):
to begin with. So I see these pictures and instantly
I was just saying, I got to look back into
the whole May four shooting again. I can't just look
at this art. I'm gonna have to learn everything now.
And I started. The first thing I started looking at, though,
was I came across the artist to actually put the

(10:58):
art in the woods. His name is Christopher Cosma or
Chris Cosma. He was a student at Kent State after
the shootings in seventy four. He was an art student
and Kent State wanted to put up a memorial. They
had commissioned some actually really big artists back in the seventies.

(11:20):
I can't remember the name of the guy. He wanted
something really gaudy. It almost looked like an ancient god
making a sacrifice, and they're like, no, we can't put
that up. Sorry. So this young student said I could
do it, and I can do it for way cheaper,
so they allowed him to do it. And back in
the seventies, Towners Woods wasn't woods quite yet. It used

(11:42):
to be a farm land that was given back to
the city, so they've reforceded it. So when the artists
decided to build this memorial, he also put it up
with the intent that trees and shrubs, everything's going to
grow around it, so eventually it's going to look like
it's been there for a very long time. And I'm

(12:02):
telling you, these pillars almost look like Witch's towers. They're
very peculiar. I started looking into the to the artists more.
And I'm the type of person if you notice my
t shirt drew missing. We look at people's names and
their meanings when we're watching movies and TV shows and
looking into stories. Chris Cosma's last name means to invoke change,

(12:29):
and I thought that was pretty interesting. So fast forward,
I'm looking into his art. I google his name and
I start getting all this art from him. This guy
has these I won't say mural that him and his
wife put together these beautiful, decked out pieces of wal art.
It's like the entire wault is the art. They cost

(12:51):
millions of dollars and they're created from stone, metal, glass,
and crystal. They have art in thirty rock Chrysler Empire
fifteen to fifteen Broadway, which is where this Christopher Cosma lives. Okay,
they've all over the city and it's all worth millions,

(13:12):
millions and millions of dollars. And I don't know if
Nick still in the chat, if you can show anybody
some of these pictures that you can search them up?

Speaker 9 (13:23):
Yeah, the way you can send them to him.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't have them quite on my laptop on my phone.
Let me I can send them to you on Instagram
real quick.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
But I think also, is there some banging going on
in your house or something? Because I've muted everybody else.
I'm gonna tell you right now that shit's loud. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
I can feel them.

Speaker 9 (13:42):
I mean they tak they're taking a roll down, they're
doing like taking hit rock off.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, I'm hoping they're going to be done soon. Let
me see if I could do like I know, the
fourth of July ended like two weeks ago. What are
we doing here?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Let's see. So there's parts their art in thirty Rock
is called a tribute to Light, and if any of
you have been around long enough, we know that light
is a reference to Lucifer and within that art itself,
I found the numbers nine and eleven hidden within the art,

(14:20):
like the number nine is clear as day and there's
two lines that run right across it.

Speaker 20 (14:27):
God man, wish I could bring it up real quick.
Let me see, Can I I have it on my
web page right now?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (14:40):
Yeah, wee?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I Can I share it?

Speaker 9 (14:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
All right, boy, give me a second.

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Yeah, click share on the bottom and then chef screen.
Probably a screen, I'll ask you, like a tab or
a window. I don't see it on my what's your
are you throw your throw your website into the private chat.
I'll pull it up on my end and perfect.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
So anyway, I also found out that he had a
cross made out of the Twin Towers literal pieces of
scrap metal from the twin Towers he put together and
then put it in Saint Peter's Saint Petersburg Church. I'm
trying to find it here, so you know what.

Speaker 9 (15:35):
I bring it up.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Went second, guys, I'm sorry you see with the private
chat is on the side yeah, I see that. I'm
just trying to get it to come up real quick.
So recently, I actually I reached out to the artist
and he emailed me back and said, I prefer to

(16:03):
have a phone conversation with you. He gave me his
phone number and I called him. He talked my ear
off for two hours. Was he like weird like he
had He was not, not really weird. He was definitely
excited to tell me everything about the art and some

(16:25):
of the stuff he told me though, Like he instantly
told me, uh, now, I want to let you know
that the stone pillars they have nothing to do with
phallic symbolism. Offer it.

Speaker 9 (16:35):
Oh, like, well that makes me think it was Oh sure,
it's always dicks, that's all. But that's all it ever
is is dicks, Right, the guy wants to be lying,
so it's always just fucking Cox, that's all it is.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
It is.

Speaker 9 (16:50):
Fucking ignorant every single time.

Speaker 7 (16:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I am not dude. I can't get it to
come up now.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
It's like, I want to be honest with all the
guys on this panel right now, does any of your
dicks actually look like an obelisk? Does it have a
point at the end? Like that, does it look like that?
Because mine doesn't.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
All right, that sounds like it would be painful.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know how, like you know, having
birth would actually you know, work well if your dick
looked like that.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
But you know, the original the original Washington Monument was
supposed to be a giant column, so it was supposed
to be one huge column, but they went with the
obelisk instead. It had a whole other garden of columns
around it, so it's it's kind of interesting that they
went with that one instead. It's it's also interesting that

(17:34):
I guess they had a different design for this one
and then they switched to this other one. So it
seems like maybe the important works of art usually get
scrapped the first time and then they switch over to
something else.

Speaker 12 (17:47):
Wait, isn't that why they call it the blade? Right,
the symbolism for manhood? They call it the blade in
the chalice for the womb. So everybody just thinks their
dick is a pointed object unless they're uncircumcised, and it's
more like, you know, obviously rounded true, somebody gets some

(18:09):
uncircumcised dick art.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
The funny thing that's about this too, I'll jump to
this real quick. While this was happening in Kent, right
down the road, literally down a road called fifty nine
in Kyahoga Falls, there's this. It was one of the
first real big TV evangelist churches. I can't remember. Rex Humburg,

(18:39):
I think was his name, and he built this church
in Kydahoga Falls, and he envisioned building this huge tower
called the Church of Tomorrow is supposed to kind of
look like the Seattle Space needle and have like a
big cathedral on the top of this huge tower. Well
he never finished building it, and now it just looks

(18:59):
like a ginormous, extra large smoke stack for no reason,
and it's sat there forever and it's the biggest eye
sort and it's there for no reason that I don't
even think they use it for much, But it was
just weird. After seeing this portal and knowing about that tower,

(19:19):
I kind of came to the conclusion that they use
events like this to power bigger events. When I did
a podcast with Troubles about this topic recently, he kind
of helped me figure it out. It's almost like baseball season.
You got local events that are happening, and that's your preseason,

(19:42):
you got bigger events happening, like maybe maybe in big,
big cities, you know, for me, like Cleveland, there's big
news happening in Cleveland, but like the rest of the
country is not paying attention to Cleveland. Right, that's your
season games. But then then you got your playoffs, and
that's when there's bigger events like Kent State people are
everyone's paying attention to it, right, But then you have

(20:03):
your super Bowl, you're nine to eleven's your Oklahoma City bombings.
And I honestly think that the portal in the woods
that I found, just imagine how many people has walked
through that portal since the seventies who believed four people
on Kent State's campus were murdered. That's some kind of

(20:26):
energetic exchange, in my opinion, and they're using those energies
against us. What's the portal again, It's just a big
metal disc. What the artist told me is he took
like a he went to a scrap yard and they
had like an oil tanker and he cut the end
off of it to get this big metal disc a

(20:47):
big circle, and then he cut a hole in it.
And the hole is kind of shaped like a person
walking sideways through it. Almost then again like when you
look at the pillars, because he made it out of
a concrete, he made out of multiple things. He even
put metal in it, iron in it to make sure
moss would grow on it to give it the appearance

(21:08):
of looking older. So he thought it out very well.
But it almost looks like the shape of these weird
oblong tall pillars. They're very I'm so sorry, guys, they're
still blown off the fucking fireworks. So yeah, the portal,

(21:29):
and then his art in New York City, I believe
it's in the Chrysler building he has the It's just
like this little glass mural and it looks like shark
fins swimming in a circle with a black hole in
the middle, looking like a portal. So this guy knows
what he's doing. When you're making portal art like that constantly,

(21:50):
you know what you're doing. And if you go to
his Instagram, it's just Chris Chris Cosma. He doesn't have
a lot of his art on there. It's just some
like paintings and maybe sculptures that he's done. But even that,
it's very strange. Uh, He's got paintings, abstract paintings of
red squares, and to me, it made me instantly think

(22:16):
Saturn the way the pictures presented. And then it's just
like basic watercolor paintings of two blue pine trees, two pines.
What has everyone been talking about recently that involves two pines? Anyone? No?

(22:37):
Back to the future, to the future. Yeah, So as
soon as I saw that painting, I knew what that was.
That it's literally just two triangles with a little line
and looked like two pint two blue pine trees sitting
next to each other. So I'm like, what's he trying
to represent with that? Because that is the only thing

(22:57):
that my brain links it to, so that I definitely
think even once I started looking into the events that
took place on that day, the names, the people involved,
the time stamps, the amount of shots fired. It's all

(23:21):
one big occultic ritual. And I'm here to tell you
all that nobody died that day, not a single person. Oo.
There it is. I knew it was coming. Nobody's dying
in these events. Guys staged as a motherfucker stage. It's
all stage. And I'm gonna tell you I did a

(23:41):
lot of my research out of this book. It's called
The Fourth of May Killings and cover Ups at Kent State,
written by William A. Gordon. He was a student at
Kent State ended up becoming an editor or a writer
at the Akronbeacon Journal. Just a little bit before I
came out on this show, I came to the conclusion

(24:02):
or the realization that even this book is total fucking bullshit.
It's trying to point out.

Speaker 18 (24:08):
To you that.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
The National Guard murdered four people, shot nine others, paralyzed
one of them, and got away with it. They didn't
get away with shit because it never fucking happened. The
author put all the court hearings and everything in this
and even comments constantly about how they're getting off easy.

(24:31):
They're not asking the right questions, the FBI isn't doing
the right research. Within this book, he also says there
was FBI informants on campus that day. Now, my friend's
always asked, does he talk about the victims in the book? Like?

(24:52):
Not too much? I really not too much. I honestly
had to google a lot about the the victims.

Speaker 12 (25:03):
Like are we sure that there are even real people?
Did they do they have cousins?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Do they have moms? Do they have Yeah, they had parents,
but I could not find anything on the parents other
than these are the parents.

Speaker 13 (25:17):
Of may I ask you, what are your thoughts on
the audio that came out?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you're familiar, are you talking about the recordings of
the shootings? Yes, yes, okay, so what he's asking very specifically, Yes,
this is where that. When I started looking at this,
I knew I was onto something.

Speaker 21 (25:43):
We had.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Thirteen seconds of shooting, sixty seven shots fired, four people dead,
nine injured. That's thirteen thirteen thirteen. I'm gonna break this
down for you too. The distance that they were all hit,
the four who died. Give me one second. Here's the distances.
They were all shot at three hundred and thirty feet

(26:08):
two hundred and sixty five feet. Six plus five is
eleven plus two is thirteen. Sandy Williams was shot from
three hundred and ninety feet, but on Wikipedia it doesn't
say the feet. It only says one hundred and thirty yards.
There's your thirteen. And William Schroeder was shot at three

(26:29):
hundred and eighty two feet. Eight plus two is ten
plus three is thirteen. Make it makes sense, guys, and
are any of you familiar with mister John Lee Chalbeck
and his seventy seven research. Yes, yeah Lee, Yes, John
Lee talks about Kent State. It is not only was

(26:49):
the number thirteen just everywhere right there, but it was
seventy seven men and John Lee missed this part. Seventy
seven men of Troop G that's the seventh letter, marched
up blanket hill, stood next to a pagoda, marched down
the hill into the courtyard, made a circle, came back

(27:11):
to the pagoda, turned around, started shooting.

Speaker 9 (27:16):
Out.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
During the volleys of shots, a big metal sculpture outside
of Taylor Hall, which is on the highest point of campus.
So there's another They shot from the highest point on campus. Guys,
we're talking about mounds. In my opinion, I think Kent
State was built on a giant mound. The whole area

(27:39):
is hilly like beyond belief, and the buildings look very
you know that, they look very Greco Roman like, the
pillars and everything. But Taylor Hall sat on the tallest
hill on campus, exactly where they shot from, next to
a pagoda. More symbolism. But when they they hit a

(28:01):
metal structure sculpture, and as a kid, when they took
us to campus, to teach us about all this, we
had to take a you know, a piece of paper
and do the coloring of the outline of the bullet hole.
And I can tell you, even as a child, I
knew that wasn't a bullet hole. Somebody just drolled a
fucking hole in it. So even as a kid, I

(28:24):
kind of I just always knew.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
There's something or Man, they actually traumatized the kids and
made them put their fingers on the bullet.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yes, yeah, yeah. The uh, the memorial on camp. There's
there's multiple memorials on campus, but the main one is
literally they basically all were shot dead in a parking lot,
so they just they built They put little pillars around
that parking spot so no one can park there, and
they light up at night. So literally you walk past

(28:54):
where these dead bodies fell. And I grew I grew
up on that campus, dude. I rolled my rollers, skates,
my bike, I played basketball with the college kids growing up.
I went to summer camps on that college. It's ingrained
into my brain. Now along with that, I want to

(29:15):
tell you guys something. Out of the four students who died,
two of them went to JFK High schools. In different states.
Just a coincidence, I guess. So all four of them
were Jewish, just a coincidence. I saw that, and every

(29:36):
year that they have a memorial, it kind of turns
into like a Jewish celebration. But I would want to
show you guys this on the inside of the cover.
I looked up. As soon as I looked at this,
it kind of reminded me instantly of Daily Plaza. So
this is kind of the map that the where the
buildings are at right the direction they walked the trees.

(30:02):
Are you guys familiar with King Kill thirty three? They
pulled off the same ritual right here, King Killed thirty three.
In that book, he basically states that everything about Daily
Plaza and the whole event with JFK being shot was
a ritual. Down to the shrubbery. The trees had symbolism,

(30:24):
the bushes have symbolism, the names of the buildings have symbolism.
I'm telling it. It was that King Killed thirty three ritual,
except they didn't go after one person. Now there's stuff
in this book too where it literally states how this
was all pre planned. Ronald Reagan was even quoting saying,

(30:46):
if it takes a bloodbath to get them to knock
it off, then that's what it's going to take. And
if you look up the most famous picture that was
taken on that day, it's of a fourteen year old
run away from Florida who ended up in Kent just
so happened to have made friends with three out of

(31:07):
the four victims and was standing right next to him
when he died. Can we say perfect fucking photo op.
If you just go to Google and type in the
girl from Kent State, the picture I'll come up. It
won a Pulitzerprise. It's her bent over this dead body, screaming.

(31:29):
And there's another picture I found from a different angle.
The man who got shot, his name was Jeff Jeff Jeff,
Sorry Jeff, I forgot your last name, Jeffrey Miller. He
supposedly got shot in the mouth. And when you look
at the blood splatter on the ground, it literally looks
like somebody took a big bag of fake blood, cut

(31:53):
it and just dragged it across the ground. It's like
a perfect It's literally this wide of blood ragged across
the ground in a straight line. Looks like somebody took
a paintbrush and painted it on the ground almost just
to give you that effect and to ring true of
what Ronald Reagan's words were as governor of California. If
it takes a bloodbath, and that's what we're going to

(32:14):
give them out the events leading up to this day
May fourth, Now this was on a Monday, class was
in session, students just walking the class got hit. Supposedly
it was the weekend prior that was very telling as well.

(32:34):
Starting on Friday, a biker group came to town during
the protests and the riots that were supposed to just
be on campus, somehow it moved downtown Kent, where there
was fifty three plus bars in our small downtown area,
and a biker game gag called the Chosen Few showed
up doing biker tricks in the streets and then people

(32:55):
started breaking glass, smashing windows, starting fire, looting stores. Well,
cops ended up getting everything sorted out the next day.
Pretty much on Saturday, the same thing happens, just not downtown.
What really started all of this was the attack on

(33:16):
the ROTC building on campus. It was put up during
World War two. Okay, it was made out of just wood,
so it was rickety. It was really old and it
was ready to go up at any minute. Anyways, the
events that the author in this book describe, he paints

(33:38):
the picture pretty much as everyone involved, including the firemen,
the police, the sheriffs, and the people trying to burn
the building down, seemed like they were all working together,
but trying to make it seem like they weren't. The
people who burnt down the building were dressed in all black.

(33:58):
You can see their faces. They barely knew how. It
took them like forty five minutes to even get the
fire started. And let's ask the question, why did it
take them forty five minutes if the firefighters and the
police were already present. So once the fire was caught
on I'm sorry, once the building was caught on fire,

(34:20):
the firemen basically let it burn down. They barely even
put it out. The very next day, the National Guard
gets called. The governor of Ohio, Governor Rhodes at the time,
comes to town, takes a nice little photo op with
the burnt down building, and they all have a meeting
in the fired fire department. You got the head chief

(34:43):
chief of fire, the chief of police, sheriff, the governor,
the mayor, and anybody else who was important enough to
be in that meeting was there and that happened on Sunday,
the day before the shootings.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
Matthew, this sounds exactly like military training exercise, Like they're
just going beat by beat by beat at the right
time to you know, fit into the to the program.
So you know, in a military training exercise, they would
take you through each step even though it wasn't fully necessary.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
You know, ye, go ahead, Julia, Oh, I was just
gonna say, anybody who spread.

Speaker 12 (35:25):
Program to kill their ears are just burning because this
sounds like the nineteen sixty six Charles Whitman, Texas when
he went up to the tower at the school and
just started like blowing people's heads off like that. To me,

(35:45):
this this is like just a few years after that.
So it's it's kind of like they're running the same
kind of.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Thank you game. Troubles just said. So, there there was
a there was this group called the Weathermen. I believe
they were out of Michigan. They were a black rights
activist group and they were rumored to have been coming
to Kent that day that Saturday. No one ever saw
them some but nobody ever saw who the fuck burnt

(36:17):
down the ROTC building either. They even made a movie
about it. Years later, in nineteen eighty one, they made
a movie and this is Treble's favorite. On August eighth,
an eight day, they brought out a made for TV
movie depicting the ROTC building being burnt down. And then
I'm gonna read a quick quote out of the book.

(36:38):
They looked like Kluk klux Klansmen, only they were dressed
in black. Each mysterious figure tossed the torch into a
window of the building, thereby standing a conflagration. The camera
then shifted to the cutesy female radical who turned to
her clean cut boyfriend and asked, who are these people?
Her friend shrugged, Who are these people? Her friend shrugged
and whispered, I don't know, with an air puzzle that

(37:01):
that that was just a quick scene from the made
for TV depicting the events.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
That's the processed church. They dress up in those wild outfits.

Speaker 15 (37:11):
They do that all the time.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
And they were very closely associated with the weatherman, so
they could have just been going as the weatherman.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Une. I mean, I don't know, because I never even
heard of the weathermen. But but why but why did
they burn down the r O T C. As basically
as the reason to get the National Guard that was
once that down, very that very Yeah. The very next day,
the governor came to town, who was already losing his

(37:41):
campaign against William Taft's I think I can't remember. It
was a Taft, you know, descend into the president Taft
who was also running for governor of Ohio against this guy.
So one this solidified Rhodes's governorship. Uh you know that
that fucking photo op to burning down the ROTC building was,

(38:02):
you know, it got it got too violent. Things they
are being burnt down. We got to bring in back up.
As soon as that thing burnt down. The National Guard
came in town, into town the very next day, and
they worked the shit out of those boys. Most of
those National guardsmen were younger than the age of twenty four,
and they were up all night Sunday night before the massacre.

(38:24):
They got maybe an hour asleep before they were woken
up and told to go to start shooting or to
start patrolling. And they patrolled for quite a while, you know,
with students throwing rocks at you and sticks, and you know,
none of these guys have ever seen combat before either.
So what whether in my opinion, if they had. If

(38:46):
the guardsmen weren't queued in on it, maybe they slipped
fake bullets in their gun. You know, duds, Well, you
got to think about this in terms of a lot
behind it.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
You got to think about counterintelligence. So this is the
perfec rearguard action to take the attention away from Vietnam.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Mm hmm. Now I'm gonna get into a few more
things real quick. I'm gonna because I want to get
everybody else's opinion on this too. So we had multiple
things that also took place that hit the media afterwards.
It was one of the girls who were shot was
said to been pictured putting a flower in the barrel

(39:26):
of a gun and saying flowers are better than bullets.
Anybody familiar to that. You've seen it in the media,
isn't Isn't that like a famous picture?

Speaker 10 (39:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
It's also it's also the opening scene of The Watchmen.
They don't tell you that scene when the girl puts
the flower in the end of the barrel of that
gun and then they all get shot. That's they're basically
to me, that's one hundred percent Kent State that they're
representing in that. Now, another person who was shot that day.

(40:00):
He wasn't killed, he was paralyzed. He ended up becoming
a politician. I won't get too much into him, but
his story too is crazy. Sorry, I.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Don't know if this has already been asked. Was there
a name given to the alleged shooter from the Ohio Nation?

Speaker 3 (40:27):
No, it was the entire National Guard. Twenty three men fired.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Okay, and wasn't there wasn't And maybe I'm mistaken. This
wasn't there some alleged rumor that a sniper had fired
on the guardsman.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
From the r T No. No, the r O t
C was already burnt down. It was already a pile
of rumble that happened on Saturday night, and then the
shootings happened, uh Monday, Sorry about that? Yeah, No, you're good.

Speaker 10 (41:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So this, this event itself, infiltrated culture on a big
time level. People all over the world started rioting over this.
But the funny thing is about this, once once things
started dying down, that this event basically was the changing

(41:26):
point from the sixties into the seventies. You went from
the sixties being the civil rights movement, all these civil
rights riots, all these war riots and protests to all
culminating to the spring of nineteen seventy. The springtime is
a great time to do a ritual when you want
to start something new, isn't it? Well, about time we

(41:47):
get a new decade going, isn't it? So they kill
four students on their own campus, injured nine more. Most
most of the protests went out the window that because
then two weeks later, two more people died at Jackson
State down in Alabama.

Speaker 10 (42:07):
Can I add something happy?

Speaker 14 (42:10):
So?

Speaker 18 (42:10):
I think to a degree, like because right after you
had Nixon does the midnight you know, the late night
visit to the Lincoln Memorial after Kent State, and you
also have not that long after the Houston Plan being
developed amongst the intelligence agencies, which was going to be
like involving further black bag jobs and kind of like

(42:30):
centralizing the information they gathered. And the only thing that
stopped it, supposedly was Jay Edgar Hoover, who was towards
the end of his you know, evil life, and was
the one who kind of said, no, we're not going
to do it. And Tom Houston was only like twenty
something years old. But it was supposed to be like
taking all the information from CIA FBI DA, all these

(42:52):
groups and.

Speaker 10 (42:53):
Trying to pinpoint exactly where the funding was coming.

Speaker 18 (42:58):
From, for base, the protest movement, like they thought it
had to be from like Russia, like it had to
be communists.

Speaker 10 (43:06):
You know, it was still some of that, you know,
it was coming from us.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
All it comes from us. We're funding our own protesters
to protests against US. Yeah, And it's to me, it's
just they they pull off rituals to invoke change. Reading
good question, go ahead, And.

Speaker 16 (43:28):
It's about the ritual aspect of this. So you were
saying that you really didn't think that anybody actually died
in this, But if they were pulling off a ritual,
and I get with these false flags, a lot of
people don't die, But wouldn't actual bloodshed fuel the ritual.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
And not just the act of it.

Speaker 16 (43:45):
Do you think that there might have been some actual
victims in there, maybe not what we were told, at
least some And in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
In my opinion, I've been looking at all these different
events kind of through this microscope for a while. They
still have karmen to deal with, So I think it
you don't have I get the blood shed aspect, everyone.

Speaker 12 (44:11):
Behind it.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
It's probably enough.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Yes, it's the attention. Like I said, I think we've
all been watching movies too much. We have we have
to see that bloodshed for the ritual to be powerful.
I don't think it actually works like that. I honestly
think their lies, tricking us invokes more energy for them.

Speaker 9 (44:30):
M hmm. I was going to say, I'm saying, if
you kill four people, but you have billions now they have.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
The karma on them, why would you want that karma
on you?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
And everyone thinks that you killed four people anyway, So
in a sense, that ritual would work as well, right,
because perception is reality, and yeah, no, you usually see
there's always something that's a cultic behind all of these
uh you know, false flags.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
It's a great way to launder bodies, you know, if
you got to get rid of some other bodies and
then make them think that it was killed in this
other shooting.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. No, I'm also the
reason why I'm finally because for the longest time I
was riding the fence like, yeah, they probably did die.
But I grew up in Kent and and now I
kind of live in Akron, Ohio. Home of Judith Resnik

(45:28):
familiar nineteen eighty six Challenger Shuttle, you know, also didn't
die in her tragedy, So why it's not far fetched, guys,
and it's only fifteen minutes down the street from each other.

Speaker 12 (45:40):
They just got to make you think that for people died,
no bloody massacre in they're get blood and guts, we're
all in the place.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that makes sense to me.

Speaker 12 (45:52):
As long as they can get the masses to believe
that there was this bloody, horrible, gruesome thing happened, it
doesn't really have to happen.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
You just need to believe that it did.

Speaker 12 (46:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (46:06):
Then I was going to say, I want to say,
you know, if you look at rituals and ceremonies, what
is it mostly of show? Basically it's entertainment, something that
gets people's mind and ideas flowing. And that's why you
have different theories in what's going on. I'm not saying
that this didn't happen, but I'm just saying that richels
and ceremonies is all about entertainment.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
I was gonna say, then, setting up the ritual, the place,
the time, the symbols.

Speaker 22 (46:31):
Used, everything that Matthew was talking about earlier to get
this energy pool, this reaction from everybody you know, and
at a mass consciousness scale is would be a hell
of a lot of energy.

Speaker 10 (46:44):
I'd say.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Now, let me tell you a little bit about city
real quick. We have the Cayahoga River that runs through
it and on opposite sides of our downtown Main Street.
The river obviously is at the bottom. We got two
hills that go up Main Street. On one side, we
have a Masonic temple that was built by Marvin Kent,
who was a railroad entrepreneur. He brought the railroad into

(47:10):
Kent to make it what it is today and under
the After looking into the history of Kent, it's in
my opinion that Marvin Kent stole Kent from the previous
family who settled this area and had it named after them,
the Haymakers. Marvin Kent was from Connecticut, one of the
many prominent men who moved out east to Ohio to settle.

(47:34):
He was also good friends with Carnegie Mellon. Carnegie donated
money to Marvin Kent to build our city library that
still stands today. Kent also has something called Standing Rock
and was Standing Rock Cemetery and in the back of
Standing Rock Cemetery. The Cuyahoga River flows and there is

(47:57):
a giant rock you can fit thirty people standing on
it in the middle of the river, with absolutely no
other rocks near it. And it was well known for
being a meeting place for Native tribes. All the tribes
in the area would come and congregate and meet at
this one rock in Kent, Ohio. So the landscape, the

(48:20):
Indian Mounds, standing Rock, it's all screams geomancy and energy rituals.

Speaker 12 (48:28):
To me, Kent is actually only a couple hours away
from like Serpent Mound in Ohio, and like a lot on.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
These opposite end a little bit. Yeah, Serpent Mounds more
towards Cincinnati, but there's three hours.

Speaker 12 (48:45):
Away maybe if I'm remembering right, three and a half. Yeah,
like three three and a half. But I'm just saying
the whole area is actually kind of supercharged with some
ancient weirdness. And it's like you said, maybe like a
Native American or whoever whoever came before them that you know,

(49:08):
they always say, oh, the Native Americans built these mounds,
and they're like, no, we didn't.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, you know what I mean. So whatever whatever was
going on in this area. It's anciently old and on.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Certain lay lines or something, because you know that could.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
We're right just outside the fortieth parallel. Yeah, we're I tried.
I even went on Google Earth to see because I
really was like something was telling me, like this is
connected to nine to eleven. You just need to see
if there's any parallels. And I kept looking at it,
and I even went as far to see, like how
close are we New York? And the Twin Towers are

(49:46):
like right on the fortieth parallel. We sit a little
bit above it, so it's almost a straight shot, you know,
just got to go a little bit south, but it's
mostly just a straight shot east. And Route seventy six,
good God, I always forget about this. Route seventy six
starts right outside of Akron, Ohio and ends in New Jersey,

(50:07):
but it runs right outside of Kent seventy six thirteen
and Kent's exit is exit thirty three. I even found
markers in old news articles. Back in the fifties and
nineteen fifty one, they put a news just a small
little snippet about Kent State's growth, and it said Kent
State now has one hundred and nineteen thousand students enrolled

(50:29):
with eleven head of faculty members with thirty three buildings
on campus? Could you get more a cultic with those numbers?

Speaker 9 (50:38):
There?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
And for anybody who does say about Bob Dylan.

Speaker 17 (50:43):
In this little article, right, oh okay, so yeah, so yeah,
he was talking about some black people and underground, the
weather man underground. So the weather Men underground weren't just
a black group of individuals. They were a mixture different visuals.
The Black Panthers and them actually worked together at a time.

(51:04):
They had an alliance. So that's probably why you've seen
them with them. So this article from I guess nineteen
sixty nine, the Bob Dylan that you was talking about,
let me see for that zoom dan on it.

Speaker 10 (51:16):
Go up a little bit.

Speaker 12 (51:18):
His name was in blue, go up right there. So
they're connecting Bob Dylan to this movement.

Speaker 18 (51:30):
Well they're saying, let's see, well, yeah, the weather underground,
the weathermen, they were off few to the students of
a democratic society, and by nineteen seventy they did. I
don't know, I mean, I think what's the named. John
Kodash in his book CIA is the Drugs Weapons Against

(51:50):
Us said like LSD when it got introduced to people
like Bernadine Dorn and what's the name Bill Ayers, they
kind of went a little bit more violent. Bernardine Dorn
was on record cheering the manson murders.

Speaker 10 (52:04):
That's what you need to do.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Forget just in't a couple of CIA fuckers. Wasn't taming up?

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I'm sorry, just real quick. Wasn't Weather Underground formulated ann
arbor with Michigan.

Speaker 18 (52:23):
State the Lake Turan. There was like some sort of
like conference they had there. That's I think like it
was like a formative meeting for them.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
The reason because I bring it up is because Miller
had trans one of the one of the alleged victims.
Miller had transferred from m s U to Kent State
in that year, and he had he had done some
protesting prior to his Ken State protesting at m s U,
didn't he not?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
That's correct, That's exactly correct. Yeah, yeah. I believe he
was also one of the two who went to JFK High.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Schools and he was supposed to transfer to New York
where he was being encouraged to transfer to New York.
And I believe the other one of the girls, Alison,
she was in a relationship with Barry Levine or something
and her to transfer to New York as well.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
We also had the same name as her mother's maiden name, Barry.
I thought that was weird. So all four of these
people who died were connected. They all knew each other.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
So Barry Levine, he wasn't the TV producer, is he?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I don't know. I don't know if that's the same guy.
But there's so much more interesting stuff I could tell you, guys.
Well here's one because Trouble's mentioned it. Thank you so much,
Troubles just the year prior. Kent State is well known
for having a breakthrough in LCD technology studies that that's
a billion dollar tech industry. Now, best believe when college

(54:02):
campuses who are studying high tech stuff like this, especially
liquid crystal back in the seventies, best believe the CIA
showed up on those store steps of Kent State. I
couldn't find anything on it. Well, let's just use our
brains here. A billion dollar tech industry. RCA being one

(54:24):
of the biggest companies who picked up the tech from
Kent State and ran with it. I did not know
that that's crystal. Liquid crystal was created at Kent State. Yes,
so that's a huge part of the story too. I
think I just haven't really broke through to found the
connections because there's so many names, there's so much dicking

(54:46):
I have to do. Quite honestly, I think I need
to go to Kent State and just raid their archives.
But I got to find the time for that. On
top of all this research. I got a full time
job over here and bust them on butt other.

Speaker 14 (55:00):
Another name in that article is Bill Ayres. I believe
I just saw Bill Ayers in that article. He was
related to our former president Obama. I guess they've had
connections in Chicago. Not necessarily well, he was president, but
it's interesting I saw that name there.

Speaker 17 (55:21):
Yeah, right here, right, bring that back up.

Speaker 13 (55:23):
Yes, yes, Bill Airs.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (55:25):
Bill Airs and.

Speaker 18 (55:28):
Bernadine Dorn were Chessa Bowden surrogate parents. When Chessa Bowden
the future DA of San Francis DA, Yeah, DA of
San Francisco. His mom Kathy was on the run for
I think a Brins truck heist because at one point,
like the Weather Underground went from bombings to just kind
of like split up either on the run or being

(55:50):
involved with, you know, members of possibly what was left
to the Black panthers, and you know, things like that,
and getting in all sorts of drug induced chaos or
possibly controlled chaos, you know, being about the you know,
CET operations for all we know. But yeah, Bill Ayers afterwards,
him and Bernardine dorm wound up being like Barack Obama's

(56:12):
advisors in one form or another.

Speaker 10 (56:14):
The Chicago connection.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Real quick. I kind of skipped this point to some
numbers of the day. When the troops started their descent
up Blanket Hill, down the hill and walked back. It
started at twelve twenty and ended at twelve twenty four,
so they took a four minute stroll and turned around
and murdered four people. And more numbers for you. It

(56:42):
just keeps adding up. But then even throughout history they
keep reusing these numbers. Eventually, back in twenty twenty two,
on twelve two, twenty twenty two, Kent's most famous building,
the Star of the West Mill, the start of the
West Mill burnt down. I don't know what relevance that has,

(57:04):
but just all those numbers just keep lining up with
Kent for some reason, and even in my own life,
the numbers twelve twenty two I constantly see it. I
don't know why I even catch it in movies, so
that those numbers are important. It was in the movie
Leave the World Behind the scene where they're sitting in
the car they have the guns drawn a little sticker

(57:27):
in the very front of the window. It says twelve
twenty two on its Stupid shit like that always pops
out at me. But we know when with tragedy comes triumph.
You got the New Orleans flood, Saints win the Super Bowl,
Houston has a flood, Houston starts winning World Series. Nine

(57:49):
to eleven happens. The New England Patriots are the best
goddamn team. For the next twenty years, Ken State went
from having the worst goddamn college football team you've ever
seen to winning their one and only MAC Championship with
guys like Nick Saban who came to the college campus,
Jack Lambert, who is from the area. And then we

(58:10):
started getting all these famous people coming out of Kent,
Arcinio Hall, Michael Keaton, Joe Walsh, devo cartoonist Tom I
can never say his name, Badowick Funk Winkerbean if you
guys are familiar, and then of course Christopher Cosma, the artist.

(58:33):
Kent wasn't known for having anyone famous coma. The only
thing that came out of Kent State was teachers, doctors,
and at the LCD Tech. So I thought it was
kind of interesting after a major tragedy like this, they
start getting all these famous people, Oh, Drew Carey and

(58:53):
Steve Harvey. So you got three talk show hosts who
all came out of Kent State. And we all know
talk show hosts are work for the CIA.

Speaker 9 (59:00):
We all know that.

Speaker 15 (59:02):
So it's some some sort of fertility ritual.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Then you can say that, yeah, yeah, yeah, can can
stay's winning like I because I tried connecting everything, because
I know it's all connected, so you just got to
look at it and find it. Their their winning record
was point to to two the year before they the shootings,

(59:27):
So the sixty nine nineteen seventy season, their winning record
was point two to two. I have a feeling that
has something to new with the ritual too. This is
the numbers speak to me for some reason. It's hard
for me not to pay attention to them and listen
to them. But I feel like I'm missing something. There's
so much more.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I don't know, if anything, What's that I was just saying,
I feel like you're spot on with a lot of this.
And I mean, when you look at these numbers, you
go back to nine to eleven, I mean, it's it's
clearly a rally and ritual with the numbers nine and eleven,
you know, the two towers and then the seventy seventh
floor and all. I mean, And you had brought up

(01:00:10):
John Lee earlier, and he gets into all that, so
does William Ramsay. You know, there's a bunch of good
talking heads on on on that subject. But no, I
do think the numbers tie in to a big to
a big part of the ritual.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Yeah, and I almost forgot they were even n State
eventually built their one of the it's this trifecta with
three other colleges. They have one of the world's biggest
collective of medical information in the world. They they broke
ground and started building their twelve story library right around

(01:00:52):
these shootings happened. Also, so yeah, more fertility. And I can't,
I couldn't. I can't find anywhere in feat how tall
the building is. I searched for four days. I tried
multiple different search methods. The only thing I can get
it to say, is it's a twelve story building that
that says something that's kind of weird. It's really weird.

(01:01:15):
You can't give it. Could it be the observatory, No,
it's just the said right library, Kent State's library. It
is a huge it's the tallest building in Portage County.

Speaker 17 (01:01:27):
Oh, I got you right here, homing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Oh and one, here's the point I missed. When Kent
State was created, it was started as a normal school,
one of two normal schools. Yeah, that's a huge that's
a huge building for my area. You got to go
all the way to Akron to go to the next
tall building.

Speaker 10 (01:01:46):
That right there, you see.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Like an X in the middle. It kind of looks
like it's forming.

Speaker 15 (01:01:53):
A almost like oh, zoomed out too far, way too far.

Speaker 13 (01:01:58):
I saw swastika.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yeah, yeah, they have.

Speaker 9 (01:02:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I have yet to look at the way the campus
is laid out. It's changed a lot in the past
ten years. Kent State is us on Google Earth. They're
getting so much money that they're they're starting to buy
up the city, the downtown city area, putting up hotels
and stuff like there. The campus went from being just

(01:02:23):
you know, having a nice little campus like it's pristine
as fluck.

Speaker 9 (01:02:27):
Now, it's definitely man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Kent State started off as a normal school. It was
a teachers college in nineteen eleven. Uh, the college kind
of broke grounds for its campus. It opened its doors
on nineteen in nineteen thirteen, so there's a number thirteen again.
But it started off as a teachers college to teach
people how to become teachers. I couldn't find anything, but

(01:02:53):
my brain instantly went to, oh, this is part of
them installing the Prussian school system, wasn't it. You're teaching
teachers how to teach. I couldn't find too much on
who was backing the college other than Marvin Kent was
There was a bid between Kent, Ohio and Revenna, Ohio

(01:03:16):
to have the campus in either city. They're right next
to each other. Reven is actually like the capital of
Portage County. But somehow Kent ended up winning it, winning
the bid to have the college built on their land.
Raven Ohio is known for Maynard why can I think

(01:03:36):
of his full name? Lead singer of tools from then
Ohio right down the streets.

Speaker 9 (01:03:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know what's interesting, skinny puppy, They I
mean associated I think the Process Church and they have
an album called The Process. I don't know if the
song was off of that album, but they do. I've
never understood why. But like in one of those songs
they mentioned Ohio, Kent State back in sixty eight things

(01:04:02):
was so great. I have no idea what the fuck
that had anything to do with Crosby.

Speaker 12 (01:04:07):
Crosby Stills, Snash and Young Laurel Canyon also have to
have a song about.

Speaker 15 (01:04:17):
Ohio.

Speaker 9 (01:04:18):
Yeah, something I also wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Bob Dylan even sang about. I had a song about
Sandy who died. Yeah, so yeah, yeah. Her name was
Standra Schuer aka Sandy Lee. She was one of the
girls who died. She was from Youngstown.

Speaker 9 (01:04:38):
Matthew, Matthew, real quick before you continue. And I think
it was more because the Jewels brought it up talking
about like Crawley stuff with nine to eleven. Every plane
that that you know was involved in that. I know,
like you know, headless and Lisa and Ethan will play
her this hundred times out of my mouth. But the planes,
all the planes that you know were used, they all
go back to uh act, those numbers. Elise the Crowley

(01:05:01):
whenever he made his books. He always like gave them
a number as well, and all of those numbers match.
They all'll match books, or they even match like I
think they match like libra odz, which is kind of like,
you know, a statement of I guess like what ethelamite is.
But another interesting thing to mention about that that I

(01:05:21):
had the book. It was called Librastarte. Now in the book,
there was nothing about killing anything or anybody. But that
book is based on giving you ideas of like offerings
to the gods that you're that you're working with. So
I did even find that like pretty fucking weird. I
was like, damn, Like, even that book is involved with
the ones that hit the planes, you know, the building

(01:05:41):
supposedly whatever. Weird, that is weird. How I a lot
you know, they all match croly shit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
But what Headless was saying about this being a fertility
ritual of some sorts, maybe the artist, that guy you
were first talking about, maybe he kind of knew that,
and that's why those obelists look like pallasis.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Okay, let me go back to that real quick to
him real quick.

Speaker 9 (01:06:05):
By the way of.

Speaker 15 (01:06:09):
We're on Google Earth, we could probably zoom in.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
It was a portal or you know the what you
said you saw it saw on my phone and go
back up.

Speaker 13 (01:06:19):
Let me we gotta find the forest.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Nick I must send you some stuff on Instagram.

Speaker 9 (01:06:25):
Well, there's a private chat right here.

Speaker 13 (01:06:27):
Let me quick, please, Hey, I'm going to re share this.

Speaker 10 (01:06:31):
I was.

Speaker 17 (01:06:32):
I was in the forest, man, but there was nothing
that you could really see in there. Man, It's just
like a trail and it's hating.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Bro'm I'm gonna show you guys some pictures.

Speaker 10 (01:06:39):
Give me one second.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
I'm gonna send.

Speaker 17 (01:06:44):
I find anything that that was really got interesting to
look out. It just looked like a regular trail.

Speaker 10 (01:06:51):
Over.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
The portal fell over. I'm gonna show you guys the picture.
The portal is completely knocked over, and I talked to
the artists. He said, if you and some friends want
to grab a back because it's definitely going to take
a backo to pick that thing up, you guys can
put it back up for me. But he doesn't care.
He's like, I don't care if it's knocked over. I
wanted it to look like it's ancient and it's been
there for a millennia. Okay, nick, I sent you some
stuff on Instagram hopefully you can pull those up. I

(01:07:17):
sent you his art, some photos of his art, even
the one with the nine to eleven hidden in it,
and the art of the portal in the woods. I
have a picture of it still erect, which is very telling.
So hopefully we can get those. Get those brought up.
Go ahead, I'll shut up.

Speaker 16 (01:07:36):
I also wanted to say that when we ran the Jamatria,
it came up with Kent State equaling Freemasons, as well
as ride the Lightning and Goddess Mars.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Which I find interesting. Kent State Golden Flashes. We are
the Golden Flashes, and we use a golden eagle for
our mascot and a lightning bolt nail on the fucking head.

Speaker 10 (01:08:05):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
Let me throw this in right quick, go ahead? Oh
so kin State was on the fourth of May. Right,
it only took twenty five days for Crosby, Stills, Nash
and Young to perform Ohio for the first time live
on the twenty ninth. Twenty five days, two five. Theres
your seven. And that just proves that they had that

(01:08:25):
in the bucket, just waiting on it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
You know. So the other day I was I wanted
to search up some pictures and I typed in May fourth,
as in the word fourth instead of four th h
On accident May four students, I hit enter and google
you want to know what I found? In nineteen nineteen,
the May four students was a Chinese revolution which brought

(01:08:54):
Chinese communism into play. They'd love using these numbers. Man,
So I type something in trying to get one result
and got something completely completely fucking different. But guess what,
It still follows the exact same game plan. It's changed.

(01:09:16):
So yes, I think it is a bit of a
fertility ritual, but in my opinion, it's a change. Usually
they're invoking change on the population by scaring the shit
out of us and making us create the change for them,
or of chaos. Thank you? Yes, right?

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
And he is sacrifice time in ancient time, so this
would be like Beltane. This is when they would have
the sacrifices.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Yeah, and it was also a troubles Mister Garcia, my
favorite podcasting buddy. While I was podcasting with him, he
went out of his way to type in what was
the moon phase of that day? It was a waxing
gibeous moon, just a day or two before a new moon.
Then he looked up nine to eleven. Oh wow, exact

(01:10:03):
same thing, except just that it was a waxing gibeous
moon at a higher percentile. See look how that thing
sh shaped.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Killer is somebody who's very tall.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
It's it's the same size as the pillars. Yeah, the
pillers are about six and a half seven feet tall.

Speaker 12 (01:10:20):
I'm the artist said that these were not supposed to
be phallic in name.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
So he said, he said what he was trying to
show was an upside down grave. Well, he's full of
shit because it looks like a bunch of gates. And
I apologize for jumping around. Once the artist graduated from
Kent State, he wasn't doing shit with his life, so

(01:10:48):
he moved out to New York City and landed in
this flat apartment in the same building as the CBGB.
Once he got into i mean literally right behind this.
And once he got to New York and got settled down,
he called up some more artist buddies from Kent State
and they all moved to New York City with them,

(01:11:11):
and they basically started an artist group called the Mebwebui group.
Mibwebwe has no meaning whatsoever. It's not even a real word.
But some people say what the artist told me is
that means laughter in Swahili and they called themselves the
maw Mawbi group because one guy in the group would

(01:11:31):
run around screaming that word for some reason. That's exactly
what made it so, this mebbe group. Uh, you may
not have ever heard of them, but if you guys Wikipedia,
they were in a lot of cultural aspects in the seventies.

(01:11:53):
They helped push the funk movement with their art. Not
to mention, they were right behind the CBGB, which screamed
c I A all over to me. And I think
Chris went out of his way to tell me this.
How he rented the flat from an old Jewish guy
who owned a deli. Okay, well that's an interesting fact.

(01:12:15):
Go ahead. I'm sorry to cut you off.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
No, you know you're good.

Speaker 16 (01:12:18):
I'm sorry for interrupting. If you go back to just
the Goddess Mars piece real quick. Mars, while associated with war,
is also associated with fertility, most likely due to being
the child of Juno. So if this really is one
big giant fertility ritual, it's interesting that Mars is mentioned.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
That's a great point.

Speaker 13 (01:12:42):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Yeah, it's kind of the same with Venus the masculine
that I think maybe the Greeks on a head.

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
Listen, correct, Hi Fastus was originally married Dad or Deity,
but the first person that she cheated on with was Mars.
And so the idea was that basically people are always
in love.

Speaker 10 (01:13:07):
With war, you know, so they go hand in hand, right,
all right?

Speaker 12 (01:13:12):
Okay, just a couple of dicks sprinkled in there, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
So during this conversation I had with mister Cosma, he
also told me that I believe it was the general
who was on campus that day for the National Guard
happens to be friends with his family, even when as
far to say that the first rifle strap he ever

(01:13:43):
owned came off of a gun that this general gave
his father. The artist also went to as far because
I kind of I was very respectful I when I
called him, I made sure I was interested in his
art and I wanted to hear his story about it.
I tried not to give him the conspiracy side of it.

(01:14:06):
I ended up breaking and I told him why I
contacted him, and I told him I was breaking down
this story and I think there's something bigger behind it.
He immediately told me, well, I want you to know
that the people involved with that fire and the people

(01:14:26):
who were there that day with the National Guard, they
had nothing to do with each other. It's not like
they knew each other. So it was just events just
happened the way they happened. So, yeah, I guess. So,
so he went to be like out of his way
to tell me like, oh, yeah, well, this group of
people and that it's just it happened the way, like
it was all by chance. It's like, oh, who are

(01:14:47):
you to say that? I'm sorry?

Speaker 16 (01:14:48):
Who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Why would I do anything you have to say?

Speaker 13 (01:14:53):
You mentioned that he graduated Ken I apologize, But was
he going to Kent when.

Speaker 10 (01:14:59):
The No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
He was still in high school at Hudson. Hudson High School,
which is where my boss graduated from. And I work
right down the road from so right down the road
from us. Yeah, so he was in high school when
I happened. He was in high school when the shootings happened.

Speaker 12 (01:15:15):
Even more of a reason to a fuck you You
were in high school at the time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
What are you a fucking expert on shit? He was
like fourteen at the time, Julie, are you Hudson? It's
a very uppity town. It's part of the If you
guys aren't familiar with the Western Reserve, it's it was
basically this part of Ohio used to be Connecticut, and

(01:15:42):
it was a Western Reserve of Connecticut. It ended right
around in this area. So Hudson is a huge It's
a very rich, uppity town. Okay, Chris was born with
money already, his parents got money. Whoever's controlling the screen
right now, go go to Google and type in homehoort
Home Horse.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Even though he's an artist, he's a bit of an inventor. Also,
he built this training horse training device that you sit
on in your house so you can work on your
your gallop. I want you guys to see his logo
for home Horse. It's quite telling, quite telling. We'll bring

(01:16:27):
that up in a second, but.

Speaker 10 (01:16:30):
I got a question for you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Yes, please look at that if you can click on it,
look at the h on his logo. It looks like
two fucking towers.

Speaker 10 (01:16:42):
It does it does not.

Speaker 17 (01:16:44):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Can State campus has twin towers and try towers on
the campus also, So like this this thing is it's
not just New York City. I'm sure there's other towns
that have twin towers in them. Go ahead with your question.

Speaker 8 (01:17:03):
I'm sorry, No, you're good. You you said you've been
to that that mural that's out in the woods, right, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:17:12):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
So was that was that disc still up when you
went there? It's completely knocked over, it's heaviest.

Speaker 8 (01:17:18):
Do you know that when if it was when it
was up, Like, if you would approach it from what
the artists would consider the front of the piece, would
you be looking, would it be like the disc?

Speaker 10 (01:17:31):
Would it be caved away from you or like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
You know what I mean, like, would it be he
had it set up the way he the way it
actually is. It's you got a pillar here, the disc here,
and three more pillars over here. So it was like
three of the bodies already entered and the fourth one
was supposed to go in. But to me, what he
told me was, uh, he offset it like that just
to make it visually look better. I was like, no,

(01:17:54):
you didn't, Chris, I know what the fuck you set
it up for. That's a visual representation of souls being
true supported.

Speaker 15 (01:18:01):
Did he did you?

Speaker 9 (01:18:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Go ahead? Why did he.

Speaker 12 (01:18:06):
Want to put it way the fuck out in the
woods where nobody could look at it or appreciate it,
and I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Couldn't because he said that he wanted it to look
like it's been there for a millennia.

Speaker 12 (01:18:19):
Yeah, he also invented a fucking hobby horse, fucking weird
thing that you sit on at your house with his symbolism.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
I mean, he's just a weirdo. He's like, you know
what I'm talking about. He was an absolute gentleman to
talk to. I feel bad sitting here talking about him,
but I'm sorry, mister Cosmo. You're part of something bigger
and you need to stop lying to us.

Speaker 20 (01:18:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:18:39):
I wanted to put that out so the way he
reacted sounds like he had heard that accusation before.

Speaker 15 (01:18:46):
Yeah, that's the first thing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
You even I took my books leave off even this book.
I guarantee any real deep conspiracy junkie who's ever looked
into this saw this read this and it was like, oh, yeah,
you know, they definitely killed those kids, So it was
definitely a cover up. Our government's doing something to us.
They're getting away with it. No, they're getting away with

(01:19:07):
even more than that, because they didn't kill anybody. They
just lied to an entire population. They glied to the world.
People in Asia was rioting over the mayfour shootings. It
was a worldwide event. It was huge, and like I said,
it was the marker to kill the sixties civil rights

(01:19:29):
protests and start the new seventies. Let's go do coke
and fuck each other. You want to get fucked, Come
on as fuck, you want to get fucked, let's fuck.
Like the seventies was just everything downgraded. And I think
I don't know if any of you have ever paid
attention to this, but isn't it funny how like throughout
history you look at the time periods. You got the
fifteen sixties, seventeen, eighteen hundreds, but then when you get

(01:19:52):
to the nineteen hundreds, it's not one hundred years that
defines it. It's literally every fucking decade, it's something new.
Our entire culture is being changed every ten years.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
It used to be you stopped at about two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Yeah, now worried no. And I think that was the
ritual of nine to eleven. They they fucked with time
big time, and now we're stuck in some kind of
time loop where I don't know if you guys looked around,
but I could go to an amusement part and literally
see people who look like they stepped out of the seventies, eighties, nineties,
and two thousands. Hell, I see people dressing up like

(01:20:32):
they're from the nineteen twenties today, So what the fuck
is going on?

Speaker 9 (01:20:37):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
And everybody's riding a fucking hobby horse. My son is
a seventeen year old.

Speaker 17 (01:20:42):
That's why I'm cracking up. I'm so sorry for cracking
up because I'm looking at this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
I'm just my yobby horse. But it killed me. I
found that on accident, too, Like when I typed his
name in the Google and I'm searching stuff, like I
was just looking for art, and then I found that,
and the h caught my eye. I didn't know that
was his company until I clicked on it.

Speaker 8 (01:21:06):
This is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Definitely represented Hours or the Two Pillars of Solomon, you know, perhaps.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Absolutely what is an name.

Speaker 8 (01:21:21):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
You go, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Excuse me, Matthew. Have you looked into the history of
the Department of Defense Research at Kent State. I know
they started in the late fifties and they were pretty
prominent in the sixties. Would you happen to know exactly
what department and what they were researching at Kent State.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
No, I have not gotten into. That's the other thing.
Apartment of.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
So DARPA does business with Kent State.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
I just don't.

Speaker 9 (01:21:55):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
I didn't even find nothing like that. That's insane. You
were talking about the Look this real quick, guys. You
see this the picture he's got up right now Instagram.
He's got two more pictures exactly like it. And what
does that happened to a hobby horse? I have no idea,
but it's screams Saturn today. Is this guy? Is this

(01:22:18):
guy well off because of the hobby horse and all
of these? He came out of Hudson, Ohio, all right,
So he's just.

Speaker 12 (01:22:27):
Doing this stuff for fun, making rich people look like
retards on Instagram?

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Did we show the pictures? Cow boy?

Speaker 21 (01:22:34):
Had?

Speaker 10 (01:22:34):
Man?

Speaker 17 (01:22:34):
Need to take that ship off?

Speaker 10 (01:22:35):
That's so disrespectful man.

Speaker 17 (01:22:38):
Did look?

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Did you guys see the pictures of his art from
New York City? All of his art is worth I think,
and honestly, I think his wife is the mandler. I
think his wife is the genius here because most New
York City I can't think of her name. It's aims
something aims a m E. S.

Speaker 9 (01:22:57):
Tyrone you're rocking a cowboy hat with that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Yeah, but I rocket way bitter. Yeah you did. Yeah,
you did what you as long as you're not wrapping
it on a hot.

Speaker 9 (01:23:09):
He pulled it off. Definitely pulled it off. No, he
definitely pulled it off. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
So this guy knows the symbolism I you know, he
he let me know personally that his parents were connected
to people who were higher, higher ups that were there
on campus that day. He didn't have to tell me
that ship, but he did. He opened his mouth. He
said a few telling things to me that that day.
I do plan on I hope to God this interview

(01:23:38):
doesn't get to him yet, because I do plan on
reaching out to him again and telling him instead of
just because he caught me off guard, I thought he
was just going to talk to me for ten minutes.
It went on for two hours. I was in my
car as soon as I got off work, I called
him and I was sweating in my car for two hours.
I couldn't stop him from talking, and I was just like,
just keep giving me more. But you know, I God,

(01:23:59):
I wish I was recording it, so hopefully I can
get him to actually do I mean Matthew.

Speaker 12 (01:24:05):
Really, if he does hear about this interview and he
listens to, what's the worst that can happen? He cancel
you from buying hobby horses.

Speaker 7 (01:24:13):
I mean, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Really would like to get everything he told me out
to all of you so all of you can dissect
it the way I do.

Speaker 12 (01:24:23):
You know what it sounds like he's got. He's not
gonna be honest about stuff though. It sounds like he'll
tell you what you want to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
We don't need him honest, We are point right.

Speaker 7 (01:24:37):
It's almost it's almost easier to have him lie his
ass off, because then you know exactly what he's lying about.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Yeah, we already know. We already know what he could
say to be lying. I already know bring it, guys,
that I'm not out here to get famous. I'm not
here to make money off of podcasting. I actually have
a story even fucking way bigger than this that I'm
behind right now. This Kent State story was just for
fun for me being from Kent listening to all your

(01:25:05):
guys' podcasts and all the research you guys do. I
walk around every day with my third eye open. Not
to steal that from the cult of conspiracy. But I
love those guys too, and Julia. Actually I did one
of my big shows that's the Fountain of You story
with those guys. Please check it out.

Speaker 19 (01:25:23):
I will.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
That sounds very amazing. It's a very touching topic for me.
It's wild and it's still happening right now as we speak.
So it's happening. And this isn't a conspiracy just to
theorize over. This is a conspiracy to get involved in.
I'm not here just to talk about conspiracies and point

(01:25:45):
them out. I'm here to make some change. I'm here
to stop this bullshit. If we know the rituals they're
gonna do before they do them. I don't mean like
literally pinpoint the rituals like an old old a demagarda
tries to do. But just know that every time this happens,
it's bullshit. And we got to stop paying attention to it,
and we got to start putting our own intent as

(01:26:05):
a collective back into the ground. The geomancy. They're using
all of this shit against us, we got to start
using it against them. I'm here to tell you guys
that I ask God for a purpose. A few i'd
say over a year ago, he gave me the Primary
Water story, and then immediately after he gave me this

(01:26:27):
Kent State story. And I think I got this Kent
State story to break down the codes, to unwind the script,
to dismantle their lies, and put it back together so
we can use it against them.

Speaker 12 (01:26:45):
Divine inspiration is my favorite type of inspiration. I say
that all the time, like weird stuff will fall into
my lap and I'm like, I've never heard about this before,
and then I end up looking into it and it's
just rabbit hole after rabbit hole, Like when I discovered
program to kill in Laurel Canyon and that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
You go to my life.

Speaker 15 (01:27:09):
You gotta fuck with their numbers.

Speaker 7 (01:27:11):
You gotta get on the Wikipedia and you got to
edit all the thirteen out of everything they put in there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Here's something that happened to me real quick. You know
how they put the numbers in the news cycle. It's
always a thirty three year old or something like that,
you know, or thirteen people were struck by a car.
I personally know a guy who blew his fucking hand
off a few weeks ago. Okay, he's my age, he's
thirty eight years old. The news put it out there

(01:27:40):
that he was only twenty two, and they never corrected it.
They don't fucking care about reporting the truth and the details.
They got to get those numbers into their stories. And
I've always wondered, why how do these numbers always end
up in the news. There's no way. And I saw
this one and now I'm questioning it. Down in Columbus

(01:28:00):
a few months ago, three women were murdered in a
at the address thirteen thirty three, Like, no way, that
didn't happen. And then fast forward to now, I finally clearly,
because I know the asshole who blew his hand off,
I know they're lying. They're just doing it to do it, guys,

(01:28:23):
it's not by happenstance. It's nothing you did.

Speaker 12 (01:28:25):
They also put that he was twenty two and he
had COVID of the bee hole, and like all this extracy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
You know how they loved to just add.

Speaker 12 (01:28:32):
Details like put suffering properly into stuff in it suffering.

Speaker 10 (01:28:42):
God COVID.

Speaker 18 (01:28:43):
There used to be a thing where you could type
in on Google like a certain number, like say three
hundred and thirty three, and it would come up on
Google three hundred and thirty three dead and you know,
like this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Town and this town, and it was like, wow, exactly, Phil,
I'm half tempted. Actually, I was very half tempted to
call out to the editor and be like, why are
you guys lying about his age? Why do you keep
using these numbers?

Speaker 17 (01:29:05):
They just why?

Speaker 10 (01:29:06):
Actually fix it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Yeah, oh sorry about that mistake. Well you're going to
fix it because you know, that really changes the story.
You just described a completely different person when you said
he was twenty two years old.

Speaker 10 (01:29:16):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:29:17):
So they do that with serial killers a lot too. Actually,
they'll put serial killers that they'll say they died in
prison at age seventy seven, or they were executed on
the you know, specific days, the twenty second or all
this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
And like the day that John.

Speaker 12 (01:29:33):
Wayne Gacy was executed was the day that Jeffrey Dahmer
got baptized, and they put that in the news too.
It's like they do find significance by either making shit
up or choosing specific dates for things.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
You know, it also might have to do with the
places where they're encoding these things, so you know, check
out check out the location all these different newsrooms and
stuff like that, because I think that could be geomantically significant.

Speaker 10 (01:30:08):
Where they're sending the broadcast out from.

Speaker 12 (01:30:11):
Yeah, right, yeah, Kin State is a false flag, just
like the one I mentioned earlier that was in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Phil, Do you know about that one?

Speaker 10 (01:30:24):
Charles Whitman. Yeah, that's the one they talk about.

Speaker 18 (01:30:28):
I think Kurt Russell played him in a movie and
they cite that in Full Metal Jacket when the drill
sergeant is talking about how where did where did Whitman
and Lee Harvey Oswald.

Speaker 10 (01:30:41):
Learn to shoot the Marine Corps? So like that's you know,
the question they give me.

Speaker 18 (01:30:45):
While like Lee Harvey Oswald was a horrible shot, but
supposedly Whitman might have had a brain tumor.

Speaker 10 (01:30:51):
That's the one story that I've heard about with him.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
But yeah, I did tell me some weird stuff about him.

Speaker 18 (01:30:57):
Yeah, he killed his wife and mother before before we
went to the school and did that. I was going
to say earlier though with the once Again the King
the King Kill aspect Idah Hope eleven twenty two King
Rhode four students.

Speaker 10 (01:31:15):
Oh and it's funny enough.

Speaker 18 (01:31:19):
I'm doing a show with JJ in another couple of
weeks about the two books I've read in regards that.
I just finished the James Patterson book about that one,
so I expected kind of a limit to hang out.

Speaker 10 (01:31:31):
Sort of book.

Speaker 16 (01:31:34):
I just looked at May fourth as well for the
Pagan holidays, and you guys are gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Not believe this. So not a Celtic way for this.

Speaker 16 (01:31:44):
So it's the Celtic holiday festival of fertility and healing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
I want to throw shit, dude. Oh my god, there
we go. Oh that's the man, Nick, Thank you so
much for bringing me on today. I thought I was
gonna ship the bed in front of all.

Speaker 10 (01:32:04):
Why I'm in it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
This is why I've slowly been wanting to get into podcasting,
because there's so many fucking dots to connect. We can't
all do this research by ourselves. I've been wanting to
bring this information, not just to be like, hey, guys,
check me out. I know all these cool things we
gotta I know there's more to the story. I need
more people to bring me information and information that I

(01:32:24):
can bring them like I myself. Guys, there's so there's
so many different conspiracies that I myself have already lived. Yeah,
that's wild. Where is that?

Speaker 15 (01:32:36):
It looks like?

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Just like, what is that the rape lodge over the state.
It's called the ski booths. Ye I was standing in
that one. They call it the ski booth, but it
could be also the rape lodge. And look at all

(01:32:59):
these little is all Julia, Yeah, I don't know what
that is. Who like climbed up there and wrote on
that that's wild? Oh my god, Nick, did you say
the socklaw. Yeah, it's just it's just a little structure
standing in the woods. It's more for decoration than anything

(01:33:19):
could hang.

Speaker 17 (01:33:20):
Out in ra I.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Bet.

Speaker 10 (01:33:22):
I wanted to mention the.

Speaker 14 (01:33:25):
You mentioned the May fourth Communists, or rather Chinese Communists celebration.
May first is a big Communist day two of course,
isn't that May Day? Which one's May Day?

Speaker 9 (01:33:38):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (01:33:38):
Yeah, of course May first, So that's three day difference.
Of course, the fertility coming to birth three days.

Speaker 13 (01:33:46):
It's just interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
So I wanted to throw in here, uh, Lisa says
in the chat, she says, Project Themis at Kent Liquid
Crystal program. So Themis is the Greek goddess of justice.
She has the sword, the blindfold and the scales, and uh,
that's that's kind of interesting. So Project Themis is where

(01:34:10):
they got the liquid crystal display also the second Oracle
at Delphi and presumed to be mother of Prometheus.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
That's why, dude, it just keeps doing up. Thank you
guys making it just keeps adding up. Man, It's like
them naming every Space Shuttle launch after some kind of
God and doing it on very specific ritualistic days, over
and over and over again. I'll tell it. Do any

(01:34:41):
of you know who Michael want is.

Speaker 10 (01:34:46):
One podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
No, No, I never got. He's got a series, got
a series on the fortieth parallel with Ross Ben. That's
absolutely fair.

Speaker 9 (01:34:57):
We had them on like two or three weeks ago,
right this maybe yeah, yeah, maybe did drop it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Okay, Money in the chat actually had them all right. Well,
I paid him to do my astrology reading the other day,
and I think a lot of this is going into
some of his research on the synchronicities and everything. He
even told me I need to go and not just

(01:35:27):
do podcasts, but actually go out to Kent and talk
about this in person to people.

Speaker 15 (01:35:34):
Bring some dowsing rods, Bring some dowsing rods.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
So I might end up eventually down the road actually
trying to do like a conference on this topic. So
anybody who's got research that they're pulling up d m
me on my Instagram. Awakened Lion, you can email me.
I'll shoot you my email because got I didn't. I

(01:36:01):
looked past the darpest stuff. I looked past the LCD,
the name of that project. I'd looked at that before,
but I for some reason skipped over that Greek goddess name.
I didn't even realize that. So even while I'm doing
my research, I know I'm missing stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
A lot of the nineteen sixties research that was done.
I think we mentioned this on another podcast. A lot
of the nineteen sixties research that a lot of the
truth or conspiracy community focuses on is mainly like the
Camp Mackay ultra, the psychological aspect, the psilocybin, all that stuff.
We tend to gravitate more towards that. I don't know

(01:36:42):
if it's because it's readily available we can find more
information on it. But a lot of the aeronautics, the
optics that were used that are used now for intelligence
and by crafting and all that other stuff, especially medical, physiological,
anything like that is usually not talked about a lot.

(01:37:04):
And so if Kent was was being I guess used
for optics or any kind of liquid christlography.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
That is significant because they probably had a grant for it,
They had professors that had written for a grant, and
they were doing research for it, and they were not
just they were also probably co authoring or doing collaborative
work with other university.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
What's the chances that they were there were any Nazi
scientists hanging out at Kent State. I'm just going to
throw that. No, they've traded all of our colleges.

Speaker 18 (01:37:39):
Yes, they were brought to where there's like an infamous
picture at an Ohio Yes airport place I think where
von Braun was originally brought at one point.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
So that was that was my next point in that,
because Ohio is the halfway point between Chicago and New York.
We do know Igo Isla or you know doctor Fermi
who helped develop the large Haideral Collier particle accelerator. That
doesn't get a whole lot of attention, pretty focuses on

(01:38:11):
we have turned in Chicago, and then you have New York,
which had a lot of experimentation being done by you know,
scientists from Project paper Clip and what forth.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
And so it was the go between.

Speaker 17 (01:38:27):
With that somebody got the phone on or something that
I hear some backgrounds.

Speaker 10 (01:38:32):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Went away. Yeah, sure where that was coming from. That's
that is fantastic info. And yeah, man, I'm telling you
we we could compile probably three hours of symposium on
this alone. It just keeps connecting. It's all over the place.
And I'll even throw this one out. The high school

(01:38:56):
I went to, uh, it's named Theodore Roosevelt High schoo
Theodore Roosevelt was vice president to William McKinley. William McKinley
was also assassinated and was from Canton, Ohio. The William
McKinley Memorial is exactly thirty two miles away from the
Theodore Roosevelt High School in Kent. So when you ask yourself, well,

(01:39:20):
Theodore Roosevelt wasn't from Ohio, why'se he got a high
school named after him out there? I think that's why
they placed that in that in the city of Kent,
because it's exact location. They love using those numbers. There's
a lot of weird.

Speaker 12 (01:39:37):
Shit that comes out of Ohio, like MGK for example,
fucking talk about a lizard king.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
I have met him. Anybody in breakfast place in Cleveland. No, No,
I wouldn't even bother probably the b whole.

Speaker 10 (01:40:02):
In the seventies, Ohio became you know, you had some
interesting stuff.

Speaker 18 (01:40:06):
You had Larry Flint kind of getting started there with
the Hustler Club, and then in the late seventies you
had the Cleveland Mob War with Danny Green taking on
the Cleveland Mob and Cleveland becomes the car bomb capital
of the world, you know at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
My favorite unspoken about event was the nineteen seventies taking
over the entire town of Boston Township. It's now referred
to as hell Town. Have any of you heard of this? No,
So back in seventy four there was a bill signed

(01:40:45):
off for like preserving They said there was too much
urban sprawl and we were knocking down too many forests.
So what did they do? Instead of just like stopping
knocking down forest, they knocked down an entire town. They
removed people off their property with guns, burnt down their
homes and told them this is now a national park.

(01:41:12):
The government completely tore people off their own properties, booted
them out, and that this area of Ohio is gorgeous.
It's not flat fucking cornfields. There's a lot of peaks
and valleys and rocky areas. There's lots of climbing to do, hikes, trails,
and Boston is beautiful. The name itself too, just you know,

(01:41:37):
it's named Boston in the middle of Ohio. So they
signed this bill, kicked everybody out, and then somehow lost
funding to turn it into a national park, turned around
and told everybody they can have their property back. In
my opinion, I think they were searching for something. When

(01:42:00):
did happen seventies in the seventies, Yeah, they they tore
up the entire town, even turning parts of it. And
you know how they said they were trying to save
you know, the land, the trees and everything. They turned
half of the area into a toxic waste land by

(01:42:21):
dumping toxic sledge all over the place. This place, dude, Helltown, Ohio,
has more conspiracies driven in it than any other place
you've ever heard of. There there's giant stories of giant snakes, satanism,
a bust full of kids going missing. Which is is
there like par Yeah, paranormal?

Speaker 6 (01:42:41):
I feel like I've heard some stuff extremely Yeah, i'n't
even had friends say it's it's a very secluded area.
It is guarded by cops a lot of the time,
and the cops out there suck.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
But you know, being a teen, me and my friends
used to take blunt routes. Everyone does. I'm telling you,
if you live in this area and you you've taken
a blunt route through this area. And multiple friends have
told me they've had experiences where the car either starts
acting up or they got out of the cards just
to be idiots and walk around and like they hear
noises and shit. And that's not even walking deep into

(01:43:17):
the woods, that's just driving down the dark roads at night. Well,
I also, oh, go ahead.

Speaker 16 (01:43:25):
I just wanted to say really quickly that this isn't
the first time that the government's come in and done
that emminent domain.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
I mean, look at the LBL.

Speaker 16 (01:43:32):
That is an area of high strangeness, and people were
just booted off of their property and they'd been there
for hundreds of years, you know, homesteading and things like that.
And you find that in these areas where there are
paranormal things happening or potentially encryptid things, that the government
is coming in under the guise of eminent domain and

(01:43:53):
kicking people out. It's an interesting correlation.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
This area was. Actually, there's a fantastic YouTuber and I'm sorry,
I'm going to forget his name, and it's history something.
He goes to different places talking about the history in
the area, and he does a beautiful job telling the
story of the witch from the eighteen hundreds and this

(01:44:20):
like prominent man from the area who was trying to
use the witch to get secrets about everyone in town
so he could steal the land. So then he does
like the way he tells the story, it literally mirrors
what happened in the seventies, how everyone's land was taken,
even to the point where the prominent man from the
eighteen hundreds died of a heart attack, just like the guy,

(01:44:44):
one of the main people who was involved with taking
the properties away from everyone in the seventies. It's a
crazy story. If you guys, just go on YouTube in
your free time and type in hell count Witch story,
it should pop up. He's an old white guy with
beard and glasses. Great ten minute video.

Speaker 18 (01:45:03):
Here's I got a crazy kind of like connection, well
not connection, but like helltown. So I was saying to
Nick earlier, I said, it's kind of interesting. He invited
me on this and I read a book that I
reviewed about ken State called sixty seven Shots. I also
did a book called Helltown about Provincetown, Massachusetts. That was

(01:45:25):
the nickname it was given where there was a serial
killer in the seventies and at one point, like you
know that, that was the nickname given, was Helltown. And
at one point you had Kurt Vonnegut Norman Mayler were
living near each other and everybody was speculating on who
the killer was. And you know, it's a really good book,
interesting but again true prime. So you know, we know

(01:45:48):
how that kind of genre can be in terms of
you know, speculation and who the killer is. But I
just thought it was funny when you said Helltown and
that being Boston. You know what was it, Boston, Ohio
or Boston Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
A township, Ohio yep, yeah, Allenstown, Massachusetts.

Speaker 10 (01:46:04):
Yeah, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:46:05):
You know, there's actually a story of a serial killer.
You guys may or may not be familiar with it,
but it was called the Cleveland Torso Murderer. And they
thought he could be like a Jack the Ripper, or
he was like Jack the Ripper came over here and
started slicing bitches up but yeah, he it's an unidentified

(01:46:26):
serial killer from the Cleveland, Ohio area, was just ripping
and running. They just found bits and pieces of women
all over the place. All the Rockafellers are buried in Cleveland, Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
A lot of people don't know that.

Speaker 12 (01:46:41):
And you know, I grew up on Lake Erie, and
I will tell you it's a fucking creepy place to
grow up. There's a lot of UFO activity. There's a
lot of like weird things that come in and out
of the lake. A lot of weird things have been seen.
It's kind of like got a haunted vibe about it.
So yeah, I mean all this stuff checks out. Serial killers, Rockefellers,

(01:47:04):
people getting their ship taken away, people's heads getting blown
off at school.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
MGK, welcome to Ohio.

Speaker 18 (01:47:13):
About I forget Matthew McKinley. How about what's the name Harding?
Warren Harding is from Ohio, had what was called the
most corrupt administration ever and then he drops dead what
two years in of a suspicious heart attack or whatnot.

Speaker 10 (01:47:29):
And you know, yeah, his group was called the Ohio Gang,
which was like his habitet.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
How many how many presidents are from Ohio? It was
it four or five? Do we know? Because I know
Ohio like that we have a specific nickname for like
being the birthplace of the most all the ones that
like booty hole stuff came from Ohio. We got McKenley
arting is therefore there is I'm missing it. I know

(01:47:59):
there is. I mean google it real quick, yeah, if
you can, because at fifth four that's very telling. Presidents
from popping up President killed three.

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
Oh I will say every every every president that has
won Ohio since the nineteen sixties has won the presidential elections.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
There's seven presidents from Ohio. Seven Okay, yeah, I thought
I actually got eight.

Speaker 17 (01:48:33):
I got the know you got a yeah from Cleveland
dot Com. I got the eight Ohio's eight presidents. Presidents
in the cases they called home.

Speaker 12 (01:48:44):
Oh President Garfield, I forgot about that asshold another assassinated one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
Yeah, he was assassinated.

Speaker 17 (01:48:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
So there's a lot of presidents from Ohio. So that
that's and they all like bootyhole, like what are the words? Yeah,
and then not that any presidents from Ohio. Then you
have the Rockefellers. It's just highly connected this area. We

(01:49:14):
get had seen their graves.

Speaker 12 (01:49:16):
By the way, I visited this imitary enormous uhlists.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
They are fucking huge. Yes, I've seen them. They are huge.

Speaker 12 (01:49:25):
I got chills when I stumbled upon that grave site.
I was like, oh, look at this what some rich
motherfucker's right because it's like Hugets.

Speaker 17 (01:49:36):
It's called Laster, Ohio. Is it that one you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
No, No, that is a very buried.

Speaker 15 (01:49:46):
It'tary Route eighty. I hate your turnpike Route eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Yeah, I never use it. I did not use the tolls,
no way, not at all. I don't know if you
guys have any more questions for me. I don't know
what else I could possibly There's, like I said, everywhere
I look, I had to break down all the different students,
and I don't even I got to get on my

(01:50:18):
own show and do a solo show where I can
just break down everything, and you guys can maybe watch
me for once. You know, I've been listening to you
for a very long time.

Speaker 18 (01:50:28):
You were saying that the four students were Jewish, right, Yeah,
parallels to nine to eleven. Well, who was the first
victim of nine to eleven was an IDF soldier on
flight eleven or that was the first old victim was
that was an IDF soldier, which was very random. And
then you have the Henry Kissinger connection. You know, Kissinger
was Nixon at the time, it was his National Security advisor,

(01:50:50):
and then nine to eleven they want to bring him
in on the first Blue Ribbon Commission, and you know,
of course his connections representing the Saudiast.

Speaker 10 (01:50:58):
Meant he got quickly kicked off.

Speaker 18 (01:51:00):
And you know, there's yeah, a lot of parallels, you know,
And then we're talking the Rockefellers. I was told, I
mean something I had read about the Towers where tower
one was supposed to be Nelson and the other one
was named David, like they were named after the kids
initially that was their nickname, or the Towers North and
the South. I think at one point, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
That's wild, that's great. I guess my last if I
had who knows, I may never have the opportunity to
sit in this in front of this many amazing podcasters again.
So this is one last little bit of random information
I have for the night. It's pertaining to Akron and
Judith Resnick. Just to let you guys know, the high
school she went to was called the Firestone Falcons put

(01:51:41):
them together with the event that she supposedly passed away
in and have to mention that real quick, Lebron James,
Steph Curry, and Judith Resnick were all born in the
same hospital. Yes, Steph Curry and Lebron James were both
born in the same hospital. And then of course I

(01:52:02):
had to throw in to to threasnic. But I'm sorry,
go ahead, Julia.

Speaker 12 (01:52:05):
Oh, I was just gonna say, have you seen the
videos of people who walk up to her, Oh yeah,
we heard that you died in a fiery crash.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
Oh yeah, and she's just like, oh, fuck you, and
she just walks away. Yeah, we know it's her. I
mean I grew up looking at her picture. Like that's
one of those things about you know, I don't know
if any of you know this, but if you're from
Ohio and you actually like the state, you're kind of
like an asshole about it sometimes, like we're the best.
You know, it's Ohio versus the world. So like even

(01:52:36):
my son when he learns about history and it has
anything to do with Ohio, he's fucking all for it.
So I think it's just bred into us. You know,
it's the energy of the state. But you know just
when I growing up, you know, knowing that, oh wow,
this is a really important person. Because I was a kid,
I didn't know it was fake until you know, the
past ten years. That was one of those things I

(01:52:59):
always thought about, like this astronaut being from right down
the road. You know, it was really cool fact to
know about as a kid.

Speaker 12 (01:53:06):
But now it's if you ever meet a Browns fan,
you'll realize the disillusionment of some from fucking Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
It's like, are you serious?

Speaker 10 (01:53:17):
We used to be good now?

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
Oh god, this podcast, I can't do it. No, I'm
done with sports. I literally I play fantasy football with
my friends just for the chance to win money. It
was called the Cleveland Steamers, So that's how much.

Speaker 10 (01:53:39):
I really.

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
Stuff comes from Steamers, way further back than all right,
unraveling the podcast here though, I don't know if you
guys got any more questions, any any more thoughts, anything
else to add. This has an amazing Lisa's up there,
one of the other Occult region podcast. It's amazing extra

(01:54:06):
research you threw in there tonight. I'm so happy you
did not bow out. That was fantastic. I can't wait
to start digging into the darpest stuff. Now I got
more rabbit holes to go through.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Yeah, definitely look into the weather, underground stuff that angle.
Also we provide amount of fruit.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Yeah, I'm telling you. We get to get enough information
put together to have a whole weekend symposium on this
one fucking subject, which would get really tiresome and boring.
But you get enough good podcasters in the room, we
can have a lot of fun with that.

Speaker 18 (01:54:40):
What is this?

Speaker 9 (01:54:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 17 (01:54:44):
I'm on Google every time somebody says something, I like
the research and google what they're saying. And this is
actually in the Lake, Ohio or lake what is it
called bout? It's called yeah, the Wadne tomorrow at Lake
View Cemetery.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
And when you click on here, this is where this
is where the Rockefellers are buried. Okay, okay, look at that.

Speaker 17 (01:55:10):
Okay, ship or my Sinian or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Yeah, that's wild, man. I could spend days breaking that down.

Speaker 15 (01:55:23):
Cada Phoenician.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
Yeah, I guess, I guess.

Speaker 7 (01:55:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
Nick, you being the guy who lived a lot of this,
knowing all the rituals and stuff, what do you have
to say about anything to you today? Like I got
to get your opinion on this, brother, Like, am I
on track? Is this really the type of ship these
people are doing? Or am I hallucinating? Am I crazy?
And do I need to be thrown behind bars?

Speaker 9 (01:55:52):
Yeah? Yeah, right, No, I definitely think when you guys
were talking about it earlier, the whole thing with them,
you know, I was even trying to say, you know,
if it's not it doesn't necessarily have to be real.
Because of the way technology is today and the way
people are meant to feel for people that they never
even meant and never would meet, You're gonna get people

(01:56:13):
reacting probably, you know what I'm saying, Like, you'll get
tons of reactions off something that's completely fake regardless, you
know what I'm saying. So I like, I guess what
I'm getting at is, let's say you killed four people
but nobody knew about it. But if you didn't killed
four people, but you had millions triggered over it, that
might actually be a little bit more you know worth.

Speaker 10 (01:56:35):
Well, sorry Nicky zooming on that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
Jesus Christ, can you.

Speaker 12 (01:56:42):
Google the Rockefeller's gravesite. I have a picture of it
on my phone when I went to.

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
Go visit, but it's not a good picture the monument.
Yeah all like all the.

Speaker 15 (01:56:56):
Yeah soil of the magicians that encode the stuff for
the rest of the country.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
Brother, that wouldn't surprise me whatsoever. And I'm so glad
you thought you said it like that, because that's literally
what I'm sitting here thinking. I literally had you know,
how we all know paranoid American, right. I wanted to
pitch this at him, like, dude, you need to throw
something in there where, like in one of your comics
or magazines where they have these the school where they

(01:57:32):
breed and torture and force these people to write the
codes for all of us, Like, I don't know how
much of you are into like Jamatria and all that,
and what Zach, Zach What Zach's name, the Jamatria guy, Zach.
I can't think of his full name right now.

Speaker 9 (01:57:48):
Oh, zachly, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
The way pieces together, the WWE, all of the professional
sports and everything that's going on in the major news
cycle together through the numbers, the words and everything else.
Now he does take a certain angle of oh it's
all jesuit, which I think he is onto something there too,
But there's a fucking code being written for all of

(01:58:13):
these events, Like, they literally have script writers, And how
cool would it be for my brain to think, what
if they're breeding these script writers and they have them
all held captive in some tucked away underground school somewhere,
Like I could see paranoid American writing a small comic
on that ship. You know. Yeah, you're definitely onto something

(01:58:37):
with that. There's code writers to this stuff. They're they're
using together the theatrics for us, and it's literally what's.

Speaker 12 (01:58:48):
That's the Garfield that's the Garfield Memorial. If you go
to the basement of that memorial.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
They have his fucking coffin just out for you to like,
just roll up on his fucking coffin. I bet you
he's not even in there.

Speaker 10 (01:59:04):
I bet you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
Mckenley's and his wife is supposedly buried in the wall. Yeah,
anything about McKinley's memorial. Look up that one real quick
too before we get off here. Even the grounds that
it's it's shaped very oddly when you look at it
from above. William McKinley Canton Memorial. It's also right across
the street from the camp Football Hall of Fame. Yeah,

(01:59:29):
you guys, bitches, energy that the Hall of Fame game
brings in every year, having all of those men inducted,
all the fans that come out, it is insane in
that area and in the summer, and.

Speaker 10 (01:59:45):
It's coming up in a couple of weeks, right in
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
Yeah, they do it. They hits right on my birthday
almost every year.

Speaker 10 (01:59:52):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 17 (01:59:55):
Warm Peace look at that warm Man Pieces with home.

Speaker 12 (02:00:02):
Chef was asking me if I did a show talking
about going to this cemetery. I definitely did. It was
creep vibes for days. I was all up in this bitch,
this one that you're looking at right now. I went
by the Rockefeller's grave Elliott Ness. Uh, it's really creepy.
I mean it's definitely got some of the oldest griefs. Yeah,

(02:00:30):
creep vibes.

Speaker 10 (02:00:34):
And we're talking about so the Rockefellers were from Cleveland,
We're saying, right.

Speaker 12 (02:00:38):
Yeah, it's just like, after you've attained that much wealth,
why would you want to be buried in like the
West side of Cleveland with all the crackheads.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
It wasn't even born in Cleveland, but that's where he
was at.

Speaker 12 (02:00:50):
When it's not a nice area of Cleveland where the
cemetery is it's literally like cracks.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
And here's the thing. We have a bunch of running around.
I've been following you since the Great Deception, all right.
I actually yet pretty close to Matt. He had me
on his show a few times. Yeah, when I was
wet behind the years with conspiracy. That was about two
years ago. I miss Matt. God, I wish Matt was

(02:01:18):
in this chat right now. He's fantastic. But his old
world research is why I believe the reason why Rockefeller
ended up in Cleveland is because that area is so
heavily charged. Those buildings were already there. They've been there
for hundreds of fucking years, and they used to be
high tech buildings. The building I'm following building that this

(02:01:43):
motherfucker lived in, I guarantee was. I hate to say it,
and I know probably ninety percent of you don't believe it.
Tartarian whatever that shit was, Okay. I don't know if
the whole Tartarian Empire thing is a CIA operation to
confuse us all or not. But the fact that these
buildings still stand today and they have obvious evidence of

(02:02:04):
being more than just a building reason for me to
believe that a lot of this land. And I don't
know if any of you know about ross Ben's research
on the fortieth Parallel in Philadelphia and the artwork that
he looked into, and the research he did on the
mounds themselves. Okay, getting back into Kent and all the

(02:02:26):
mounds being in Kent as well. They're not just bound
in Cincinnati, Dayton and Kentucky. They're fucking all over the place.
And yet don't even know when you're standing on one,
because we've already built civilization on top of them. I said,
I'm ninety five percent sure. I just have to do
the research that Kent State itself was built on a

(02:02:46):
giant Indian mound. It's so fucking hilly for no reason.
I used to ride my bike up and down those
hills every single day in the summer as a kid.
They are huge hills. The rest Like, you go to Ravena,
it's not that hilly. You go to Stowe, it's not
that hilly. You go to Brimfield. It's a fucking farm town.
It's got the little hills everywhere, but that's it. Kent

(02:03:09):
has got huge hills.

Speaker 9 (02:03:11):
For no reason.

Speaker 3 (02:03:12):
And one of the seven hills Kent does not but
Akron does. Hey, here's a little fact that I cannot
find anywhere on the internet anymore. If Hitler had won
World domination, he planned on making Akron, Ohio, one of
the world capitals. So I could be that I heard

(02:03:34):
that I came crackheads took over.

Speaker 4 (02:03:37):
Isn't isn't Cleveland or Akron at one of the largest
Jewish cities.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
Cleveland's got a lot of Jews, Yeah, in the suburbs
Cleveland as Italians and Polish, we got them all. But
the highest population of Puerto Ricans in the country is
in Cleveland, Ohio. You would think they make a mean
and Panada though, I mean they up all over the

(02:04:07):
place perto Ricans. My best friend in the world is
Puerto Rican and he was my roommate when I lived
in Kent. He actually played football at Kent State.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
I think the Mexican empanom you also had.

Speaker 3 (02:04:20):
You know, it's just me, all right, Lisa.

Speaker 18 (02:04:23):
I also had one of the one of the true
sort of conspiracy you know politicians from Ohio around Cleveland
was James Traffiicant.

Speaker 10 (02:04:36):
He was the one who accused that what was it
he accused?

Speaker 3 (02:04:39):
Uh?

Speaker 18 (02:04:40):
I think Janet Reno of being a lesbian, and he
talked about I think like Israel's grip you know on the.

Speaker 10 (02:04:48):
Politics, and who are you talking about the all time
James Traffickan he was. He was a center. I think
you said, like beat me up, Scott. He was like
one of his like prese and I think they eventually
kicked him out of Congress. But yeah, he was someone
who was like.

Speaker 18 (02:05:04):
Very attuned with like Israel's influence in regards to government.
And yeah he said Janet Reno was having an affair
with Donna Shalala, who was like the Health and Human
Services secretary under Clinton. And yeah, he was like one
of those guys Democrat, but like would spew a lot
of stuff that turned out to be true. He took
the cause of John DEMIENUK, the guy who they said

(02:05:27):
was Ivan the Terrible.

Speaker 10 (02:05:28):
Oh my god, started.

Speaker 3 (02:05:31):
On that ship that is fucked up.

Speaker 10 (02:05:34):
Did you that that documentary? Yes? I did, Yes, I did.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
Good. It was from Cleveland, dude. It was crazy episode.

Speaker 10 (02:05:45):
I think there's a huge Ukrainian population. I think was
part of that.

Speaker 12 (02:05:49):
Phil I would keep up and do an episode on
that guy because I think that is is a crazy story.

Speaker 3 (02:05:57):
I don't know about you.

Speaker 10 (02:06:00):
And his lawyer was Israeli and took a shit off
flat for him.

Speaker 12 (02:06:05):
Oh my god, that's so crazy. But that's another Cleveland story.
I forgot about a full blown concentration camp. Ass. Fucking
Nazi ass, fucking well killed kids in the gas chamber.

Speaker 3 (02:06:19):
Ass.

Speaker 18 (02:06:21):
When we're talking about Rockefeller, you know, someone who made
his money most likely off you know, crimes in one
form or another. And then you know, being involved with philanthropies,
you get a guy like Mo Dalitz, who was a
gangster the Mayfield Road mob who goes out to Vegas
and he becomes like mister Las Vegas and winds up,
you know, owns the desert in which eventually he sells

(02:06:41):
to Howard Hughes and then donates they like donates the
biggest hospital that was being used to run the casino
skim through at one point. And he dies and he's
like Man of the Year and all these other things
and basically just whitewashed his entire reputation through philanthropy.

Speaker 3 (02:07:04):
Stuff.

Speaker 12 (02:07:05):
You know, still is like an encyclope. Yeah, Oday, conspiratorio.

Speaker 3 (02:07:12):
That's I got to say it again to guys, Please,
if I can get all your contacts, learn who all
of your shows are. I would love the sport all
of you two and connect more. I'm having so much
fun with this ship. Dude connecting out Dude, it's who
here has done psychedelics anyone. I'm not a big user, right,

(02:07:33):
but the first time I ever did mushrooms to the net,
the I did it. I did it with a group
of friends and seven of us and we all went
off and did our own thing. A couple of guys
went this way, a couple of guys went that way.
I'm sitting on a playground because my friends lived right
next to a playground, all right, I wasn't there, being
it was literally in their backyard. And I sat there

(02:07:53):
by myself, having a flood of all these thoughts I've
never had before, thinking about the most random ship. And
I was sitting there for about twenty thirty minutes, and
then I decided to get up and walk back to
my friend's house to the front door. And then I
looked to my left and the two guys who walked
this way started to come back, and the other guy.
We all came back to the house at the exact
same time, and all of our different thoughts were completely different.

(02:08:15):
But they all connected, and it blew my fucking mind
how our conversation people were having in different parts of
the town all came together at once. Yes, you connect
through the mycelium, absolutely, it just it's what I've been
doing every day since, just connecting dots that I come across,

(02:08:37):
and it's so much fun for me, and I honestly
feel like God speaking to us a little bit more
than we want to realize. And even though I look
at things like numerology and astrology, I'm a big believer
that those are God's tools and if you're using them correctly,

(02:08:59):
especially if you're use it to kind of fight on
his side, you can use it for good. It's all
about intention, correct, It's all about intent. They're using it
against us on a daily basis, and we've got to
do something to fight back. There's so many fucking look
like the group I'm sitting in front of right now,
and all of you know people and all those people

(02:09:19):
know people. Before I got on here, I was on
a two and a half hour podcast with NDS.

Speaker 10 (02:09:24):
I had them on yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:09:26):
Man shouts out, I know I follow I'm They're one
of the few people I pay for the Patreon offense. Guys.
I'm a poor person, but they put out so many
shows throughout the day that I can listen to at work.
Plus they have a lot of you guys on too.
It's great, Yeah, but it's there's the energy is changing, guys.
I hate to sit here and preach and get on

(02:09:46):
my soapbox, but the energy is changing. And if you
don't do it and start maybe doing more than just podcasting,
we're going to start losing a battle. You guys are
just going to have more content to talk about. All right,
you guys might get some more money in your pocket,
but what the fuck are we really doing there? Like
I called out NDS earlier, I said, your name is

(02:10:06):
the Nephlum Death Squad. I just brought the fight to
your front door.

Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Can we got to get out there and fight?

Speaker 10 (02:10:12):
Dude?

Speaker 9 (02:10:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:10:13):
Yeah, Well they're just talking about nothing. I'm here to
fight them because I'm not making money off this ship
and I probably never will, mostly because of the way
I speak so change Truss.

Speaker 12 (02:10:28):
People keeps telling me I'm a nephylum because I have
red hair, and I'm like, what the fuck is that
even supposed to mean? Like, I love the Lord, I
don't fucking eat children. I don't get like, literally we
need to define what the definition is a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
I say the worst thing about Julia a lot, but
you know it's not wrong with that either, So I can't.

Speaker 7 (02:10:56):
So I think we got to get into a uh
sort of a you know, war mode, and I think
that means everybody needs to attend some sort of astral
projection boot camp.

Speaker 15 (02:11:10):
Right, you got to get out there.

Speaker 9 (02:11:12):
I'm telling you, bro, psychedelics, right, Bro, No, you won't
have to, Julia, Julia, I'm your magic.

Speaker 3 (02:11:20):
No psychadelics. I know way too many people who overdo
the psychedelics. I honestly I did it more than once,
and I didn't need to. I'm telling you that one
time I took it, I was not ready for it.
It changed my fucking life and I was only about
eighteen nineteen years old. I've not looked.

Speaker 12 (02:11:36):
I mean, I've smoked weed a couple of times where
I've literally thought that I was leaving my body. But
I think I just got like too fucked up. Like
I took a big bomb rip and like felt like
I was levitating and shit. So if if I have
to take psychedelics, I already know it's going to be
a fuck that because I had a complete.

Speaker 10 (02:11:57):
They're not for everybody, you know that it's gonna take
that kids.

Speaker 21 (02:12:01):
You know, that's a mistake they make whenever they take them,
and I'm not they expect just trying to have a
good time or whatever it's they're used for, you know,
other purposes.

Speaker 3 (02:12:14):
Especially looking into conspiracies.

Speaker 12 (02:12:16):
Like sometimes you know, you get too high and you
read something like program to Kill and you're like, I
think I'll just you know, I think I think I'll
kill myself.

Speaker 3 (02:12:24):
I don't know what else. Yeah, all right, okay, definitely, yeah,
really good man.

Speaker 17 (02:12:44):
They got a visitors center right on campus. I'm actually inciting.
Well I'm not excited, but it doesn't give you any pictures,
but they definitely have one.

Speaker 3 (02:12:55):
Of course, they also have a memorial place too.

Speaker 17 (02:13:01):
Yeah, it's crazy. I'm looking at it right.

Speaker 13 (02:13:03):
Now, like.

Speaker 5 (02:13:06):
Ye, the.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
Kids.

Speaker 12 (02:13:11):
They have one at the Oklahoma City bomb Memorial to
you got to pay like twenty dollars a person to
get into the fucking thing and then they give you
a tour of how many kids got blowed up, and
it's like why did I pay for this?

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
Like this is kind of morbid horrible.

Speaker 9 (02:13:26):
Matt, I got a question.

Speaker 15 (02:13:27):
Do they make you stand on anything metal?

Speaker 7 (02:13:30):
Is there any like plaque or anything on the ground
that's metal that you have to stand on on any
of these tours or any of these sort of like
self flagellations.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
Oh, good question.

Speaker 17 (02:13:43):
There's definitely big stones you're talking about in area.

Speaker 3 (02:13:47):
Yeah, it's just that much at all. I know what
you're talking about, like like a like a big metal
disc with with writing eye memorialized on the ground, and
you know, maybe they're something in front of it. They
have a couple of memorials. I don't I don't remember
if they have anything like that. Like I said, I

(02:14:09):
don't go to Kent that often, even though I live
right down the street and my mom still lives in Kent.
But uh, I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have
to go to campus and walk around and see. I
feel like I need to do some like live tours.
When I go, I'll just go on campus and start
talking about it on some lives or something. Yeah, you

(02:14:37):
very much, no problem. Thank you for having me everyone,
and thank you for adding to it. Thank you for
adding to the research and asking great questions like I said,
I'm not a great storyteller, and there's so much information
with this, like it's really hard not to bounce around.

(02:14:58):
Thanks for bearing with me and still like understanding what
my retarded brain was trying to spit out. Yeah, I
don't even know where else what else to say? Guys,
Thank you and just awakened Lion on Instagram awaken line
twenty nine on x. If you guys want to correlate,

(02:15:19):
message me, follow me, give me any of your research,
or have me on your show. Sometimes my whole life
has been a conspiracy. Autism has touched my family pretty hard,
you know. I also get into a lot of like
you know, spiritual thought. I grew up in an abusive
household for my stepfather, so I love looking at the

(02:15:41):
psychology of how people's minds work and the whole even
just relationships with men and women through family my like
I said, I grew up with a stepfather and even
looking at his family and the street behind it, it's

(02:16:02):
just medical conspiracy all over the place. So I got
a lot to add to different conversations. If you guys
want to have me on please hit me up.

Speaker 12 (02:16:11):
I feel that this was on fire tonight too. I'll
look at all these comments and stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:16:17):
Somebody said I love you. I saw that somebody's love
and you haven't recorded anything. But I am working, working
on my own show. It will be called the Hometown Profit. Awesome,
nobody's profit in their own hometown.

Speaker 9 (02:16:33):
Okay, nice? Oh and you know after the show man,
throw me any link you want me to put into
the show notes the chef, because I don't think I go. Yeah,
so people can reach out to you as well if
they want to talk to you about this. But yeah,
thank you very much, Matthew. I really appreciate it real quick.
For the people that is still here, well, first I'm
gonna plug, well, Chef, you're still here, so you can

(02:16:57):
plug that show Dark Florida Brooke you left, go check
out Dog Florida. Uh yeah, podcast Paranormal Cryptid Stuff, pickfoot
Uh yeah, all right, Lisa, what's up? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (02:17:11):
Thank you for having me on and matt amazing presentation.
Learned a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:17:20):
I had never even heard that thesis that it wasn't real,
so that threw me for a loop. So thank you
for bringing that into blunting the seed into that. Thank you,
fellow rejects for having such an amazing discussion, and again
I just would like to plug Accult Research to dot org.

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
Check us out.

Speaker 9 (02:17:40):
A thank you very much and hellos John.

Speaker 7 (02:17:45):
Hey, you can find me on Twitter and X and
I've got a show on Thursday nights where I read
your emails if you send them to the Headless Giant
Podcast at gmail dot com.

Speaker 9 (02:17:54):
Thank you is you'll get a you'll get a story,
and you'll get a sigil, symbol, engraving or something. We
always something out of our rest to share with you,
so definitely check it out. And we got to shove
what is going on?

Speaker 11 (02:18:05):
So yeah, first, thank you for having me. I greatly
appreciate it. It's been an awesome Friday night. It was
very nice meeting meeting you all. I'm only familiar with
a handful. Matthew, you did a good job, brother, that
was awesome. Keep keep getting a dude, you're doing a

(02:18:28):
great job. And yeah, you can find me. We're over
at Rumble and instagram, S, n S S pod I
believe and X as well.

Speaker 3 (02:18:41):
So what's up here? Thank you Jules.

Speaker 11 (02:18:48):
So Jewles knows I always forget what my what the
Twitter handle is. I'm not super I'm not on there
a lot that is at s n SS pod. Love
you too, Bro, And yeah, thanks thanks for having me.

Speaker 9 (02:19:01):
No, no, thank you. I appreciate it. Bliss, thank you. Yeah,
and uh, Julia, what is going on?

Speaker 12 (02:19:08):
I love doing these shows because I feel like it's
just hanging out with my besties.

Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
Please meet new people.

Speaker 12 (02:19:15):
Phil, I've been wanting to meet you for a while now,
obviously everybody else.

Speaker 3 (02:19:19):
Matthew. Great to meet you.

Speaker 12 (02:19:21):
I met I think I have done a couple of
shows with a few of you before, but Chef, it
was great to meet you and Hank Cosmic Peach podcast
wherever you listen to podcasts. If you want to work
with me, get in touch with me through my email.
It's ghosts dot Peach at outlook dot com. Don't send

(02:19:43):
me a message on Instagram. I don't check that, bitch.
Please send me an email. Thanks for having me, Matthew.

Speaker 3 (02:19:50):
Is a great show. Loved it, very entertaining. Thanks again,
no problem, Thank.

Speaker 9 (02:19:56):
You very much.

Speaker 10 (02:19:57):
Julia.

Speaker 9 (02:19:57):
Always appreciate you joining us and we got Phil. What
is going on? Phil?

Speaker 18 (02:20:01):
Oh, it was a great, great couple of hours and
I enjoyed it and I said it just worked out.
I mean book that you know a topic that I
you know, read and reviewed the book on and it
was a lot of fun, uh Vic Foster on Twitter, I.

Speaker 10 (02:20:18):
Do post some of the book reviews, well, anyones that
they post.

Speaker 3 (02:20:23):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (02:20:23):
And every now and then I get to review a
good conspiracy or a cult related you know. Hopefully I'll
get to post my occult Elvis review soon and uh,
which I got introduced because of one of your guests, Nick,
And uh, you know, it's always.

Speaker 10 (02:20:36):
A lot of fun talking about conspiracies and other fun
topics like this.

Speaker 9 (02:20:40):
Oh, thank you for coming on.

Speaker 3 (02:20:41):
Man.

Speaker 9 (02:20:41):
I always appreciate whatever you have to bring to the
show because you know, always got something going on in
that audio's toad and we got tyrone what is going on?

Speaker 16 (02:20:51):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (02:20:51):
Good good?

Speaker 17 (02:20:52):
Uh presentation, Matthew, that was good. I learned something new today,
so uh, you know it was it was great in
learning that stuff. Everything that you want to find only
just go to rebirth at the word dot com and
you'll catch everything that I'm on there.

Speaker 9 (02:21:04):
Thanks again, Nick, of course, of course, no, thank you
for coming on man and Jules.

Speaker 1 (02:21:10):
Man, this was another great show. I always appreciate you
inviting me. Get me new people. UH got to get
you on, Matthew. I think it'd be fun. Guys, Grateful
pot on Twitter, Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple podcasts. You go
follow me over there, go over to Patreon, Patreon dot com,

(02:21:32):
slash Grateful podcast doing an esotery book review in the morning.
It's Patreon only. Probably think we're reading a Cult Anatomy
of Man so and then we're doing Twin Twin Peaks.
Watch party tomorrow most definitely.

Speaker 3 (02:21:48):
So I yet watched that ever past talking about it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:56):
You guys talk about this time watching it, and I'm
watching it with my and so now they're all obsessed
with all the stuff in it. To shout out Isaac
wiseup though for kind of getting me on it at first.
I got him coming on later this month to talk
about it. So that's gonna be a banger. Yeah, everybody
go check out the episode with NDS from yesterday and

(02:22:18):
all the episodes we've done. I think this is my
third Occult Rejects episode this week. Yeah, yeah, man, Yeah,
so shout out with you the Cult Rejects. Y'all go
follow them and yeah, another great show.

Speaker 10 (02:22:35):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (02:22:38):
Oh, thank you man, always appreciate you coming on. You know,
I do wantly trying to bug it to get you
to come on. So thank you O Man.

Speaker 1 (02:22:43):
I'm always down, dude if I'm free.

Speaker 9 (02:22:46):
Yeah, well normally the timing, it's only the timing is off.
And I guess Ethan indigo, I don't know if he's
still here or not, but I'll play his stuff. Go
check out his books. He definitely has got a plethoro
of books. He's got a bunch of stuff. Yeah, we've
got a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 17 (02:23:03):
I'm actually going I'm actually going to buy his book, bro,
and I'm actually getting his books from Amazon. I'm moving
to go read him.

Speaker 9 (02:23:10):
Nice. Nice. Yeah, So go check out his stuff. And
he is on Twitter as well, and he's rather active
on that, so go check.

Speaker 2 (02:23:17):
Out out do the Oicult Research Institute dot org as well.

Speaker 9 (02:23:20):
Yes he has. He's actually been one of the more
consistent ones. He's making me look bad. Thank you Ethan.
Uh yeah, and I thank you everybody in the chat.
That is what's up.

Speaker 3 (02:23:29):
There's a lot of people on one more thing, Nick,
because Jules just reminded me. I also did a show
with NDS today on the primary water and the kidnapping
of Joe Gilbertie and his efforts to bring primary water
to the entire world. Like I said earlier, that story
is ten times fucking bigger than this, So if anybody
wants to check that out, it's out for free. They

(02:23:50):
had to pull it off of YouTube. It should be
back on there because we talked about alkaline water. I'm
sorry we said the word alkaline and they pulled us
from YouTube instantly. Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:23:58):
Yeah, so did all the labooo dolls. But it's still
still still a good episode. I had to check that
one out that y'all did.

Speaker 3 (02:24:07):
Please, it's it's it's not my story. I just, like
I said, I asked God for purpose and he dropped
this story in my lap and I was literally the
only person on the internet who found it and gave
a shit about it. And now it's about possibly, uh
have its own documentary if NDS has anything to do
with it.

Speaker 11 (02:24:22):
So beyond this, it's pretty wild. It's pretty wild. I
didn't think it was when I first heard about it.
I was like, okay, okay, but then once I got
like the full the full story, it's yeah, it's pretty wild.

Speaker 3 (02:24:35):
It's a very deep story.

Speaker 9 (02:24:39):
Thank you. Uh yeah, yeah, and uh, where was I
at Oh, I was thanking the chat that's right. Sorry,
Uh yeah, thank you everybody that was packed. It was
from old channels too. I appreciate everybody saying stuff and
comment there. That's where we go live. Uh, that is
the end of another cult rejects and until the next one,
everybody be will lay.

Speaker 3 (02:25:00):
Be on my game statue.

Speaker 2 (02:25:02):
It takes out a tangle.

Speaker 10 (02:25:04):
You don't want mess with me.

Speaker 7 (02:25:06):
Mess with me, baby, are a gangsta touch, Baby, You're
a game statue.

Speaker 5 (02:25:23):
For the warners, this podcast is designed to take you
outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.
Listener Discretion is a vibe

Speaker 17 (02:25:37):
Talk with me fellas, This ain't my first time at
the rodeos.