Satanic Cults, Ed Gein, & Ritual Killings (Feat. JJ Vance)

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How do you, folks?

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You're double j Beck here coming at Live slash Live
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Once again, that's your host of Operation GCD JJ vance
here and more notably not the Vice President. Thanks again

(01:22):
for joining me here tonight, folks of the interwebs Skill GCD.
We've had a few programming alterations for tonight's evening and
we've had a few technical delays, so appreciate you all
bearing with us. Got a like a lot of you
folks at the interwebs. Got a real barn burner here

(01:42):
on deck for you all tonight. I got uh guest
Julie the Cosmic Peach back from maternity leave, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Welcome back to Operation GCD. Man for the very first time.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yes, very first time.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Whoa speaking of technical difficulty? Sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thank you. Not only is it my first time, I'm
already getting kicked off.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
You're at it, you're at it, you're out of control.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Thanks for having me though, Glad to be here.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
As known as Yes, I agree with Benjamin Selena is
here as known. You're well known for your bee hole references,
and there'll be plenty of those.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I have no doubt there will.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Be plenty of beehole discussion tonight.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Also joined me here, fellow scotsman here, Bt Wallace, and
fellow Oregonians. Is that what they say in Organs Oregonians there, welcome.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Back to Operation GCD, sir, thank you, thank you. What's new?
Oh I apologize my pardon me, sir?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
I apologize, man, I was making a smart ass remark
about being back from attorney leave.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
What's new at the Cosmic Peach Podcast?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh yeah, I mean I got some shows already posted
that people can go check out. I've been, you know,
trying to get back into saddle after taking some time off.
But yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's still up and go get out on.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
That's some time off, right, Yeah, it's hard to podcast
when you're tens busted wide open.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
But you know I'm back here the whole reference of
the evening.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
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mam and apologize b T Wall's Truth and Shadow podcast there.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I gotta get hey, I gotta get my ship to
get here, Bud. What's over there? Man?

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Nothing really new. I mean, I'm just doing some dives
on the algorithm, predictive programming, things like that. So you
can find my shadow shorts about the algorithm on my
podcast through the Shadow Podcast, where I else do interviews
different people.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You were describing a show.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
I do frequently tune into your show, sir, and you
were describing the show I apparently missed. Perhaps it's a
newer one than I am not here too familiar with. Uh,
can you remind me a game? We were talking offline
about a show.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Oh, yeah, we were talking about I had to interviewed
a guy named Jeffrey Smalden. He had spent quite a
bit of time going to prisons and talking to serial killers,
and we did one, uh John Wayne Gacy. So it's
a pretty pretty interesting dive in really interesting kind of character.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
That is very interesting and relative to tonight's discussion. Julie
and I were gonna do an that guy in discussion. Uh,
then she went ahead and had a baby that day
and canceled on me.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
How dare she?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
We're we doing a lot of that tonight, and I'm
not gonna lie to you when I was, you know
in one of my takes on that gun. He seems
like a kind of a gayzy character amongst his community
as far as being well liked. And he's always doing
like magic shows and stuff for the kids. You know,
kind of clown not a clown, but kind of clown like.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Jester like, if you will.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
That's gonna be some of our topic here tonight. And
last but not least, uh, the other JJ. This dude's
out there trying out JJ. Mean, while I respect it, Sarah,
I will have none of it. Welcome back to Operation GCD, there,
Jacob J host of Rise to Liberties.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Yes sir, yes, sir, thank you so much for having
me back. And hey, like I said, with the JJ thing,
I gotta try man, you're out there second.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I respect that, I respect, I respect the attempts, But
how dare you, sir?

Speaker 7 (05:03):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
What's with the Rise of Liberty podcast?

Speaker 7 (05:08):
Sir, Well, right now, I'm actually in the middle of
a deep dive of the West Memphis three. You know.
That's that's a big thing. I've I've got a couple
of shows coming up with William Ramsey, uh with you know,
the West Memphis three.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
This is a case that I kind of feel some
personal attachment to because you know, the lie that these
boys were just picked on because they listened to heavy
metal and wore black T shirts and stuff, you know,
and there are people like that out there, you know,
but they don't commit ritualistic murder.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
So I you mean to tell me that this was
not part of the Satanic panic.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
Well, it definitely was the Satanic panic. That was definitely planned,
and you're of that panic, sir. I hope you realize this,
right right, still going.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I agree though, it's like, not everybody who shops at
Hot Topic cuts little boys penises off, you know what
I'm saying. It's like, this is not Those two things
don't always go together.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
Right, right, So yeah, that's uh, that's what I'm going with.
And also, of course, you know, I'm looking at doing
a review of the most recent John Wayne Gacy uh
draw Dramau series that came out on Peacock the Devil
in Disguise, because of course, not a single point in

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that did they mention Philip Paskey and I have a
I have a more major the.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Like the clown and the candyman stuff, right, Coral and
all the fucking Pet Network stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Right, Well, that's weird, sir. We were just talking about
John Gacy. So that's there'll be some good discussions we
can get into tonight as well. And I'd like to
hear your thoughts on West Memphis three. I don't think
for a moment see what you're What you're pointing on
is what I think is part of the larger operations
of this panic. We're in this propaganda machine. It's not
just the actual convincing of the panic gets the spin

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around matters such as high profile crimes. We see it
there with the West Memphis three. Them boys did something.
I'm not saying they were solely responsible one fact, I
think there's a lot more to it in fact they did. However,
get Damien Echles was interrogated and it's videotaped and unvailable
on YouTube. He does know, in fact, details of the
crime that only the killers and police should know, so right,

(07:31):
do that with what ch will as far as calling
them innocent, right.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
Right, right exactly, And you know, I kind of have
a hard time with somebody who was innocent and also
happens to be best friends with Johnny Depp, you know,
and somebody that also totalcidence creates right, right, total coincidence,
somebody that also recreates Aleister Crowley pictures. You know that
that person clearly does not have any knowledge.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Of the occult, absolutely not, all right, Amien eckles Aim
his real name, dude, who is his daddy? And what
does he do? We're not playing that game. Well, we're
playing that game tonight, just not with him, but perhaps
in the future. But I thank y'all, all three of
you all for joining me here tonight to gil GCD,
and you folks of the interwebs here as well joining us.
I have one quick plug for myself speaking of Satan

(08:17):
Satan shit uh tomorrow and I got a Saturday Night
Satan double feature of well Operation GCD Thursdays on Saturday
at nine thirty pm, Easter Sainter Times, The Anatomy of
the Satanic Panic and again West Memphis three comes at
a very interesting time in that panic. In fact, we
are still panic folks, so you know, beware. But that

(08:37):
is the life and crimes of Muppet Mikey, you know,
the man behind the sye op in his pal ted Gunderson.

Speaker 9 (08:44):
There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way, I've
been shot with a laser beat twice.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Careful folks, they got ted twice. Stay vigilant.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
So they got him right in his bee hole too.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
It was awful, tragic, be a hole shot, I understand.
So where would you folks like to kick this conversation
off tonight? Would it be ed Guin. We'll do it
chronologically speaking as far as satan murder goes. That's before
the term satanism, but it has all the hallmarks of
anything we would call ritual satanic murder post nineteen sixty six.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, I mean, I could open us up with a
couple of points here if if that's cool with you guys,
of course, yes, ma'am. So it's kind of like a
pop culture thing within the last couple of years. The
guy Ryan Murphy who did American Horror Story. Also before
that he did Glee, and you know with Glee, Yeah, right,

(09:44):
I apologize.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I apologize. I'm not familiar with this Ryan Murphy character.
Per se. Did you just tell me he did American
Horror Story and then Glee?

Speaker 4 (09:53):
No, he did Glee first, and then he did American
Horror Story.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh wow, so Glee he might be more of a
scary show he did than I'm not sure, but what.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
It's weird, right, right, So listen, I got a whole
fucking theory going on here about this guy. So he
does Glee, and a lot of the people involved with
Glee end up dying in mysterious ways. It's like final
Destination Glee.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know, familiar you're talking about, right, And so then.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
He goes on to make American Horror Story. A lot
of conspiracy candy within almost every season of American Horror Story,
Thank you, Brent, I see your comment there. And then
he goes on now to make serial killer shows on Netflix.
So first it's Glee, then it's American Story. Now he's

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doing these series called Monster. The first one he did
was about Jeffrey Dahmer. The second one he did was
about the Menindas Brothers. Now the third one has come
out and it's about Ed Gian and I find it
very interesting that he is choosing these specific killers to

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do the series on because they're all mentioned in Program
to Kill. Even the Menindez brothers. It's like their dad
was raping on them. They went crazy and killed.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, there's probably people raping on them kids, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, right, So it's like he chooses Jeffrey Dahmer oddly enough,
the Menindez brothers, and now at Gean, who he calls
like the godfather of all serial killers.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
And so you know, if I may add some of that,
some of to that, well, hold on a sec I'm
gonna rewind there. First of all, excellent comment. There's there
about the satanic cold activity and around the Bridgewater Triangle
if you will, Uh, not only is the s we're
speaking of cannibals tonight, kid dedling cannibals allegedly with that
guy in right, amongst other things.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Serial serial psychopathic serial killers, believe it or not. I
knew a kid, did it know? I met him?

Speaker 5 (12:03):
A kid dieditling cannibalistic psychopathic serial killer who was once
in prisoned within the same area there in the Bridgewater
State Mental Hospital, and then he was I think he was.
But I have a theory that he's been used as
a recruiter of sorts for a cult activity with all
these kids. He was in a lot of kids stuff
and they just kept letting them out, you know, amongst
other things. This is usually before I met him, came

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face to face with him right right there in Cascade
County Jail, pure evil. He may or may not have
served me a human meatburger. Also the year prior at
the Heartys that probably did happen. But today in that
same Bridgewater State Mental Hospital allegedly and I do stress
the term allegedly since my old stalker and want to

(12:44):
be pr rep Buffalo Jared Revisa and if you I'm
familiar with them, miss him in the introduction here he goes, uh,
that's Buffalo Jared in the in the concept of this
whole buffalo bill from Songs of the Lambs and whatnot,
or as I call him, Buffalo Jared. Uh, that actually

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originates with ed Gene, Right, Yes, so.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Ed Gian was the inspiration for Silence of the Lambs,
Psycho and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre supposedly, right, so he
how bad do you have to be to inspire not one,
but three horror movies about you you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So, yeah, but is he a fall guy?

Speaker 10 (13:31):
He is?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
So that this is the thing and we can get
right into it if you want.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
What do you have?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I made?

Speaker 9 (13:39):
Man?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
What do you just know?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Are you familiar with the tales of ed Gean, this
new Netflix documentary or this Brian Murphy character. It seems
like a dark son of a bitch. She knows what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely familiar with Ryan Murphy and definitely
familiar with ed Gean.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You knew him? Did he serve you human meat burger? Oh?

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yes, very very much. Might not have been born yeah, no, no, no,
he he actually died before I was even.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Born, so maybe his son served human human be burgers.
He did live though to the eighties though. Check this
out who interviewed the guy right and by macer another
character amongst all these kind of true crime serial killers.
As you were saying, you know, telling these tales of
like Ryan Murphy's doing the you know, specific tales dom
or et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
We got that character. Damn it, I've done lost is okay,
it'll get.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Back to me here in a second. Ahead, sir, I've
done lost. I'm stucking him up at World. He's involved
in all that new the new Netflix stuff though, as well,
around Tom O'Neil and Ship, Danny Casteleiro's project It'll talk
us the Octopus, yeap. So it's interesting always who tells

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us these tales there right now?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
He is the guy who was h.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Do you know what I'm talking about, Julie who who
interviewed Edgie in prison there in them tapes, like you know,
late seventies.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Maybe the filmmaker.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Sure, actually, but they got it. They they put something
kind of like that in the Netflix show, but it
was actually not true at all, which I'll get into later.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
But jumping the jumping the gun here.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
No you're not the gun. It's just yeah, they didn't
put it in right in the show. They made they
like conflated some ship.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
But yeah, scale of not putting it in right right?

Speaker 9 (15:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Does that is that a subtle b whole reference? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
No, kidding right? Well, you know, so they say Edgie
and uh you know he was he collected body parts.
He had like a nipple belt and like a human
face mask, and he had human hand gloves. Uh, he
ate out of skulls like he ate his fucking cereal
out of sucking skulls and shit body suits. Right, he

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had bodysuits, he had like dehydrated vulvas in like a
keepsake box. And you know he would just dress up
in his mom's fucking underwear and put dried out volva
on his penis and wear it around. And he was
a sixth son of a bitch allegedly, right, But it

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doesn't mean you can be a six son of a
bitch and still not actually have murdered anybody.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
There.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
You've me a six on a bitch for sure, until
it right there with you, ma'am. And he could be
part of a larger network and fall guy, which is
often when I the pattern of behavior I see around
all these high profile quote unquote satannic murders, homicide, ritual sacrifices,
serial killers, is there's a larger network of folks arounding
a quote unquote fall guy that seems to take the

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rap for everything.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Well, he seems to be simple minded a lot like
Henry Lee Lucas, and so so I have seen with
Henry Lee Lucas, like how they do this playbook of sure,
let Henry take the fall for all this shit doesn't
mean he did it though, And well, he might have

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killed his mom or whatever they say he killed like
his mom and his girlfriend, but he didn't fucking kill
thousands like they said.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Like, right, That's what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly. Well, again,
it goes back to the evidence.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
You can dance Henry Lucas around America and have him
claimed six hundred some odd murders, or you could provide
some evidence he's connected to any of it, right, show
he was even in the town when it acuraged, showing
me he's in proximity to such a situation.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's what I'm saying, though, is like with ed Gee,
and sure he's a sick, depraved individual. Yes he was
grave robbing, Yeah he had a weird crush on his mom,
But did he murder anybody?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Who knows?

Speaker 5 (17:53):
He probably he probably fucked a lot of corpses. That
doesn't mean he murdered anybody, right.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Right, That's what I'm saying, is like, Okay, yeah, he's
into some sick, fucking, weird, fucking necro shit, but I
don't know if that means he actually like they say,
he killed his brother, even in my own Yeah, Okay,
you're speaking not you know, the rest of the panel.
But I think, uh, you know, his mom was involved

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in this satanic cult, right, generational Satanism, and uh, you
know they say his brother he killed his brother. His
brother could have died, you know, as a result of
some old this bullshit. But uh, you know, there's no
evidence of him actually murdering anybody. I think he was
like the Finisher guy, a lot like they.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's interesting, Okay, I've considered that he's WinCE in the Wolf.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
So so what's really interesting, Uh if you go back
and read through some of the newspapers at the time,
or you go back and read through you know, the
Central State Hospital documents or anything like this. Anytime Ed
is actually asked about the murders, he says that he
can't remember any of them.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (19:09):
Yeah, allegedly he only killed two people and so, but
he was caught with all these body parts. So I mean,
at the very least he was at least guilty of
gray robbing. At least, in my opinion, he definitely was. However,
the murder thing, I agree with Julia. I mean, there's

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there is no evidence directly, uh, and that this is
long before you know DNA evidence. Obviously, they just assume
you have a woman strung up like a deer gutted
in your garage and you're the one guilty of it.
It does look bad, It does look really bad.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
But yeah, it makes you look like shit. Actually when
you have somebody.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know, But who's to say someone didn't plant that?

Speaker 5 (19:58):
You say something lady's body. I'm not saying her body
wasn't there. I'm just saying he's to say that, ed,
I mean was there?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
And I guess.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You don't have a fancy nickname for him Wisconsin cheese.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Uh yeah, I mean they called him like the ghoul
of playing Field and stuff like this. You know, I'm
notorious for coming up with my own monikers, which give
me a minute.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, I really enjoy your nicknames for these characters.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Could be the dehydrated volva killer, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
But so the thing about him an acronym in there, Maybe.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
He will I'll, you know, give me a minute, it'll
come to me. It's like, you know, when I'm not
thinking of it, it'll happen, right, It's like magic.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
But you I think you hit on a good point.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
If we can start whoa calm down, chronologically speaking, regarding
his mother being involved in some sort of generational activities.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, and I think, yeah, he bodies were actually at
the house, right that. I think that they were actually there.
But the thing is is he could be like the
weird finisher guy like Gacy or something. They drop bodies
off at his heath. They only got a confession out
of him after they like knocked his fucking block off.
The sheriff like beat him.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Investigator. Yeah, the lead investigator beat the hell out of him,
which was really interesting personally. I believe he's a victim
of d I D. You know, he was programmed basically
under like MK ultra mind control programming, which is why
he can't remember doing it because he actually wasn't the

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trigger man, although they weren't. Actually I believe the one
hardware store owner was shot. I believe, So, yeah, he
wasn't the trigger man, is what I'm trying to say.
And that's, in my opinion, why he can't remember the
murders and he's got these chunks of time missing, because
that's that's a very standard side effect of programming, is

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not being able to remember these things.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
One hundred I completely agree with that, and it's like
he is simple minded JJ. It's like he's he's the
Forrest Gump of fucking serial killers.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
And he because look, how look at the impression he's
left on our society, at bars, in our media.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Everyone.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
So you know what's weird is everyone loved him too,
like he was he was like all the rage in
the town. Like I actually haven't seen the newest ed
game thing on Netflix, but you know they they kind
of portray him as like one where girls didn't like
him and the townspeople kind of thought he was like

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this recluse and an idiot. They might have, but I
mean from all accounts, everyone said that they loved him.
I mean he even babies for people in the town.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
You know, the same as John Wayne Gacy.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's kind of saying I get the Gaysey impression all day.
He's known as a jester. He would entertain the children
with magic shows.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
I mean that's very much the same kind of community
like character that Gaysey had or reputation, which.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Makes him perfect for a fall guy.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
I think, yeah, he and you know what else makes
him a perfect fall guy is like he's he lives
with his mom. You know, it's like he's a gentle
gumpy kind of like town folk.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
He's super gumpy guy.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
He's connected here right as far as again, and like
he like what what was known about serial killings or
you know, just you know, a very aggressive homicide prior
to I mean, I know there was some I'm just
saying this really redefined. Like there was the axe Man
of New Orleans, there was the texar Canus situations there

(23:52):
in the late forties. I'm just saying there's there was
incidents of a massacres previous to this, but this redefined massacres.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
This guy, well, yeah, and you know his depravity, uh
kind of redefined depravity. You know, when they bust into
this guy's house, it's on a whole other level. I
mean he chainsaws some bitches whole like from tit's to

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you know, crap.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
You know.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
I saw someone someone died just like that in studio
six six six there Dale was watching.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I mean, there are pictures of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
You should.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
You should some of the crime You should pull those up.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Don't do.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
It. Do it the crime, the real the real crime scene.
Because I'm telling you you guys like the the human
face masks and the hand gloves and the skull balls
and all this stuff. Right, it's it's it's unprecedented.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
But it was incredibly odd for the time. Although I
mean there were many there were many today, right, yeah, yeah,
I mean maybe not for Portland. I mean there there
were many serial killers before then. You know, the one
that always comes to mind late eighteen hundreds is bel Gunnis.

(25:22):
You know, she was a woman, which is odd enough
for a serial killer of any time, but she yeah, allegedly,
but she would lure traveling men into her uh, into
her farmhouse, you know, offer them room and board, you know,
a hot bail or whatever, and she would do away
with them hh Holmes style and they were just never

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seen from again.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, let's talk about a JH. Holmes was a fucking
psychopath too, right, I mean did don't all of these
like reek of occultism to you though? Like think about
this Jack the Ripper, right, there's a lot of occult
ship going now with Jack the Ripper. There's even stories
that somehow, like Helena Blovotsky and like Alistair Crowley were

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somehow involved with Jack the Ripper And then you have
like the Torso murderer, the whoever hacked the fucking tits
off the Black Dahlia. Uh you know this is all
you know, this is all before ed Gian though, So
I agree with Jacob, that's not like serial Killer was new,

(26:27):
but he did some depraved ass ship that made a
name for himself.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Yeah, it's it's kind of like Columbine to school shootings.
You know, there was school shootings before Columbine, but Columbine
was the thing that put it on the map for everyone.
And same thing game because even.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
There was Mississippi due there was Jones Arkansas. I can
refuse the school shootings, but like.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
With edgiean uh you know, like let's just take for example,
Jack the Ripper. Okay, what do he do? He stabbed
a couple of bit just you know, molested them a
little bit, did.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Whatever he was.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
I just you know, the depravity comes in where it's like, yeah,
Jack the Ripper, he was slicing in dice in some hoes,
but he wasn't wearing their faces around. Okay, this is
like some new shiit.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
What's interesting though, the the reason I think this is
is actually because of the aftermath, because at the time
when they were pulling all the stuff out of his house,
there was like a literal circus outside, like people were
scooping up dirt and selling it. Like there there was
a whole like economy built around the house, which is

(27:45):
why the house actually ended up, uh mysteriously burning down,
because the townfolk didn't want the house to be you know,
some murder tour or whatever. And I kind of agree
with him, like if it wouldn't have burned down, it
would have like it would have turned into a horror
a museum, right, yeah, a museum.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah. But here's the deal.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Once the house is gone in nineteen fifty eight, the
law enforcement destroyed all the other evidence as well.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
So therefore, you know, he's not gonna he's in a
loony bin, right.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Some of it actually is still in museums all over
the country. You can find pieces, although any of the
body parts and you know, the nibble belt stuff like
that is long gone for sure.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
No.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, and I'm tracking, sir, I was I apologize.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Let me readdress my statement and actually be a segue
in our next next portion of this conversation. So I
appreciate that the evidence they had, the physical evidence against
Guide and which basically consisted of like a receipt from.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
The hardware store.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Right right, They said, poof that went the way of
Houdini in nineteen fifty eight, No more?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
What was it?

Speaker 10 (28:54):
So?

Speaker 5 (28:54):
What was the story on that? So I guess we
can do his backstory here? You all tell me you
want to do backstory? Do you want to do evidence?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Which one? You go? Which one? Which one? First?

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Look at his mother real quick?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, I was gonna say, we should probably start with
his mom.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
You man, you're the guy of Collegist, you're the expert on.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
You might as well start with his mom.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
Oh my god, that.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
One coming.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
Got me.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Maybe that should be his moniker ed there you go.
You know, I'll let b T go if he's got
some stuff on the mom, because I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
I've never heard of this guy until JJ said something
pre show with me.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Well maybe Jacob can jump in.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
But yeah, he had a weird crush on his mom.
You know, he would wear her fucking bras and stuff around.
She was she was like the mom from Carrie. Okay,
but like the real life version of that person.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
You know, it was a straight up Oedipus complex, like
through and through.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, he want
he loved her as uh, you know, you would love
your mother, but it was it went beyond that, because
it was like she didn't want him to get married,
she didn't want him to have sex, she didn't want
him to have children. It was kind of just like
stay with me forever kind of change.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
She literally was the the mother from Psycho. She yeah,
she was. She was incredibly domineering, and you know, she
was an incredibly religious woman that came from an abusive home.
Her father was incredibly abusive. I actually don't know too
much about like her upbringing, but basically she parlayed that

(30:54):
into abuse on the family, you know, because her people
hurt people. And Ed's father was not so much abusive necessarily,
although there are accounts of him abusing mainly like emotional
and verbally, but he was a drinker. He was a

(31:16):
hardcore drinker, and his mom resented his dad because of that.
Eventually Ed's dad left and then so she went full
like feminist man hating right right, right, And then she
also was all about woman hating as well. Every single
woman is a tool of the devil, and you know,

(31:37):
all women are harlots and everything, and just basically created
a recluse that lived at home, and there was no
other woman that was good for Ed other than his mother.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And I have one question for you all, one question
on this lady. She has a real treat. Oh wait,
but she ain't a great, big fat person. Oh wait, well,
I mean, what's she? Agrabic frapper? She sounds like Arabic pap.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
She was a skinny, little spinster lady. She looked like
a fucking brown recluse, if a brown recluse could be
a person like she was just like so venomous, looking
like a crushed out camel cigarette, but like as.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
A Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about weather weather face,
like an old catcher.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah, yees, get it, you get exactly real sexy, right, Yeah,
But I mean think of it in this in this way,
is like whatever they had going on caused him to
have this weird thing where he liked to choke his
chicken while wearing her undergarments, and like, uh, that's gotta

(32:48):
be some sick ship, right, you know, it's like your
mom's bra and panties, and like, I don't That's why
I say it has to be some kind of generational
satanism going on. Here because obviously the was abused, right,
then she abuses her kids. Then she you know, ed
Ian does his thing. I don't think he murdered anybody,

(33:09):
but I do think he was into some weird sexual
gravity shit. I do think he was like a weird
fall guy, maybe a finisher guy. You know.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
Bring up that tab I pulled up, JJ, it's actually
a picture of her. Her name is Augusta.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Ging A gust Yeah, like just the name.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
Right, this woman, this woman. This was allegedly taken around
nineteen forty, so this would have been not too long
before she died. And you can just look in her eyes.
I mean, she's got those psycho eyes.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Literally.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
Yeah, but which one am I supposed to be looking at?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
She looks handsome, That's all I can say.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
A very handsome woman and.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Great, broad faced, broad shoulder looking. Sure, she has a
great big fat woman.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
With a linebacker. And this is a picture of what
it was like around his house. Uh, you know they
had booth set up, you know there, It was a
literal circus around his house. After the crimes hit hit
the media, and so I think the media aspect of
this is also another reason why we're still talking about

(34:23):
them today in twenty twenty five, you know media sensation.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Yes, sir, I'm glad you said that's a I appreciate
you using your brain holds, sir, there for God's intended
purposes and not for what many many folks do in
this world is an oversized paperweight, because that is That's
what I'm saying. Not only does this change the game
as far as the massacre of the scene goes, it's
the media circus. It's we can see it if you
look at all the events proceeding in after this is

(34:51):
the point in time where this media circus really the
inception point of this.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yes, murder, media circus goes.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
Yeah, and this was the first you know, serial killer
or like mass murderer or whatever that really was covered
like this. Of course Jack the Ripper was, but that
wasn't international news. Ed Gean actually made international news.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
With a lot of publicity too.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Right. They mentioned they mentioned Ed Kemper in this new
Netflix show as being inspired by ed Gan.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
Ted, go ahead, sir, just they they mentioned everybody, they
have a weird like scene that's been kind of floating
around the social media that's kind of shows ed having
like this delusion or something where you know, all of
these serial killers, Charles Manson and uh Ted Bundy and

(35:48):
Ed Kemper and like all of these guys come out
to thank Ed because he's like the Godfather. And it's
supposed to be like a a delusion that Ed is
in or like a dream or something like that. And
it's really really strange because.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
You know, when you have somebody who is capable quote
unquote capable of doing these kind of things, they have
to give them like some kind of weird, uh, psychological disorder.
So they were like, oh, well, you know he was schizophrenic.
It's like, dude, there are a lot of schizophrenic people
out there that don't cut dead people's nipples off and

(36:22):
string and a belt.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Let's hope there's don't hope they don't all start doing that, right,
That's what I'm saying. So it is interesting how we
get the even as you're all point out the constant
references in comparisons to these other serial killers. You know,
because as Juliet mentioned earlier, I think maybe perhaps before
the show that Ed Gainey is even referenced in Program

(36:45):
to Kill and this whole matters of the satanic serial
killers come home a Phoenix program and up at mikey
Akino and Gang and we see them every almost every
time you see any of these characters, references almost like
they're referenced in like a Marvel Universe capac either like
the fucking Avengers of fucking Suicide Squad or whatever you
want to call it, of super Team of fucking Killers, right,

(37:07):
and even in films like American Psyche, which.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
There's a lot to be said about old.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
Brett Easton Ellis I think, but the uh and Ryan Murphy,
I believe he incorporated smiley face killer stuff in American
Horror Story Brett Easton Ellison Face Killer film.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So that's fucking creepy.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
But yeah, Gord, Sir, I was just gonna say real quick.
In the first season of American Horror Story, which is
aptly dubbed Murder House, I mean he references all sorts
of things, the Black Dahlia Columbine like, he just goes
on and on and mentions all sorts of yep, sure does.
That's one of the main characters in the first season.

(37:45):
He's a school shooter that doesn't remember that he was
a school shooter until later on.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
The first season of American horror story is chocked full
of conspiracy.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Yeah, and a cult.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I mean yeah, and then there's another season called Cult
and it's got all this like Trump stuff and Hillary
Clinton stuff and it's just rank.

Speaker 7 (38:09):
It's wild. It's wild. Ryan Murphy, I.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Had a question for you, ma'am.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Hillary Clinton successfully traded, uh, she profited hundreds of thousands
of dollars in trading cattle futures, well in labor giving
birth to Chelsea Clinton. Were you successful in doing anything
about nature?

Speaker 4 (38:32):
All I can remember is my tank getting busted wide open.
So it's just not.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
Posterous that that Hillary Clinton claims have been like, you know,
laying in her bed giving labor, trading cattle features on
the Chicago Mercantyle Exchange.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
I mean, unless she got some kind of epidural that
just like totally cut off all the feeling from the
waist down. I mean, I just don't If you're in
active labor, the last thing you're thinking of is is
literally anything other than when does this stop?

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Like you ever sold these very preposterous narratives of this nature.
And again, I look at all media and the way
we're in the media circuses, especially as the other JJ
was poring out, Watch out, sir, I see what you're
doing there, trying to out Jjmie here.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I'm won't having you.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
But you know, I take all these things, you know,
very circumspective about these narratives because once again, the well,
I'm sure we'll get into it eventually here, but generally speaking,
the evidence around this whole Ganin.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Affairs seems very very suspect.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
But when we keep seeing the media and how they
portray him and connect them over and over again, even
in our fictional medias, when they when this quote from
American Psycho he's talking about it's an ed Kemper quote,
but he referenced as ed gin make.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Up for how fucking unattractive they are.

Speaker 6 (39:56):
You know what ed Gane said about women?

Speaker 7 (39:58):
Ed Gan matre da can now born the serial killer
Wisconsin in the fifties, and I said, when I see.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
A pretty girl walking down the street, I think two things.
One part of me wants to take her out and
talk to her, be real nice and sweet and treat
her right.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
And what the other part of them think what her
head would look like on a.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Stick, Which is an actual quote you folks can see
from Mad Camper. Right, dude, That's.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
The thing though, is like they say, like Ed Kemper,
who's also mentioned in Program to Kill, I talked about
actually in an episode recently. But it's like they they
apparently drew inspiration from Ed Gian. Now here's my thing.
He's technically not even a serial killer, right because he
only allegedly killed two people.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
Right, you have to kill three three, three in between
both right in between all of them. You have to
have a cooling off period.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
So Dave mc allen, and I'm sure people are sick
to death of me bringing this.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Up, but in Program to Kill, go ahead, man, he
was right.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Yeah, he was right. And so he mentions how there
have been satanic cults ripping and running through Wisconsin in this.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Area and run and I forgot about that reference than Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Mean he talks about this, you know in Program to Kill,
how this area of Wisconsin is silly with satanic cult activity.
Uh you know, is it a co winn I mean.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
In that proximity right Milwaukee, you know, near Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Chicago, right,
name the cities, Lacrosse, that's where's from. That's a hotbed
of smiley face killer activity.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
Same same with Ohio, Ohio yeah, Ohio has some of
the Uh actually, last time I looked, has the highest
population of Satanists per capita out of any state in
the in the Union.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
So isn't that wild?

Speaker 5 (42:07):
That's Wisconsin, but some say it's witches covens. I do
agree both or high high volumes per capiti, sir. So
that's great point. And you know what my my assertion
is because of the mounds. So the highest concentration of
adena mounds are in Ohio, and the highest concentration of
the effigy mounds, the animal effigy mounds are in Wisconsin.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
Fuck, it's gotta be just a coincidence.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
This is the world the high high these mounds in
the entire world. And this isn't just America, this is
in the world. And now the largest effigy mound in
the world is they call it, well, the dumb dumbs
called serpent mound.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I assert it's sperm and egg mound. But it's a
bit of a it's all sex shit, and we don't
see a lot of sex shit with a specifically right
in his crimes.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
But you know, outside of this auto ginophilia business, did
they name that that that sendrume after him?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Autogan. They said that he happened up like a lady
right now, that is right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
They said that he had well he would for all of.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
These names after him. Is this what's happening right now?
Am just learning all this is named after edu?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
They said that he had that ship because he would
like wear their titties around and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
Well, I mean he had a full woman suit though too.

Speaker 7 (43:27):
I mean it was right, yeah, I mean that it was.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
That was really weird because I mean, he's dressing up
as a woman after his mom's.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Gone and you know where.

Speaker 7 (43:37):
To be his mom his mom to that.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
Jane Wayne Gacy had the same kind of he would
replace his mother in the and be the wife of
his father.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
It was really right, nick ship is what I'm here.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
If you want to bring up him.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Was he wearing I'm gonna need a name, folks, whose skin?
Was he wearing his lady's skin?

Speaker 7 (43:57):
So the skin came from some of the grapes, some
of the graves that he robbed.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
It was a hodgepodge of sort.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
It was just one person. I thought, maybe it's like
one great big fat lady. Oh wait, machine a great
big fat person.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Oh wait, just lotion on their skin though, and he was,
oh shit, yeah, yeah, you gotta put the lotions in
the skin.

Speaker 9 (44:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
But so like it was, it was a hodgepodge. He
would take one and be like, I like this one's tits,
I like this one's hands, I like this one's puss,
and then he would sew them all together and make
like a human suit out of it.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Right, at least creative, at least right.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
So this is this is.

Speaker 7 (44:44):
This is an excerpt from some of the initial medical
documents from doctor Sherbert. I believe it's how you pronounce that.
Uh So this is December twelfth, nineteen fifty seven. It
says the patient was interviewed on this date underlined. It
says he again denied any knowledge about the death of

(45:08):
miss or Missus Hogan and stated that he had admitted
this crime because this is what the investigators wished him
to do, which.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Is really that's what I'm talking about, right, So.

Speaker 7 (45:24):
It was impossible to obtain a chronological series of events
with regard to the death of Missus Warden that the
first person he allegedly killed. He specifically denied remembering the
evisceration of the body. He stated that he had violated

(45:44):
nine graves, and when questioned as to his reasons for
doing this, he stated that he thought it was because
he wanted a remembrance of his mother, and then highlighted
it says he denied any sexual relations with any of
these bodies and gave, uh yeah, and gave as his
reason for this that they smelled too bad. He again

(46:08):
admitted that for a period of time after his mother's death,
he felt that he could arouse the dead by an
act of will power. He claimed to have tied or
tried to arouse his dead mother by an act of
will power and was disappointed when he was unsuccessful. He
also admitted that he had attempted this, uh, this sort

(46:32):
of thing with and it just goes on right right right, which.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
They that's the satanic cult ship that I think his
mother was a part of that where he was a
part of. Where did he learn this ship from?

Speaker 5 (46:52):
If it wasn't he learned from give me a name, right, Well,
that's a great point. Now again there's a seems to
be a larger situation going on here with his background
his mother then, right, yes, So in.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
The Netflix show there's a character, her name is Adeline
they kind of conflated who this woman is in his life.
They said, you know that they were in a romantic relationship,
that they were engaged.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
At some right, what was that for twenty like they
were saying, like for decades?

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I went back twenty years.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Initially, initially, what a media circus? Right, Like, what a
media circuits? You send this I'm girl out? She because
she did a report in the Minneapolis paper like Contemporary
to of the events. So that's a that's a distraction
of anything, Like does she even know this guy? Like
do they even know each other?

Speaker 7 (47:43):
So it's it's interesting. And the very first interview she did,
she said, you know, years and years and years, right,
I can't remember the exact amount of years. But and
then ever since the very first interview she did, every
interview after that she said six months.

Speaker 10 (48:00):
That was it?

Speaker 7 (48:01):
So one interview years right? And then she's part of
the cult.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Dude, she is definitely part of the fucking cult.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I like your brain holds that, man, I like, we're
going with this.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Why would she tell the truth in the first interview?
Then all of a sudden, thank you, Ryan, Why you know,
go from twenty years to six months, that's quite a
fucking link there in a discrepancy of time spent with
someone you know, he.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Guessing and so.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Jacob you probably know this. But they did beat literally
a confession out of him. Yes, and then the next
day that lead investigator who was knocking his block off
trying to get this confession, he uh, randomly dies of
a heart attack.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Right now, it's it's a mere coincidence, yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Right, exactly, yeah, because it's it's always when.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
In the back of the head hanging from a tree
with a gun like apart two, like it was one
of those situations.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
Right, tie yourself to a tree and shoot yourself with
a shotgun, you know, yeah, total coincidence.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Is the Harry of suicide guys, right.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Yeah, he he basically knocks you know Ed's block off
trying to get this confession out of him. Then he
mysteriously dies of a heart attack the next.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
Day, right, you know, he beat that hell out of him?

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
It's like, why is his girlfriend saying we spent twenty
years together? Just kidding, it was more like six months.
In the show, it actually depicts her kind of like
guiding him towards necromancy and like some weird necrophilia stuff.
Whether or not that part is true, we'll never know.

(49:49):
But imagine how bad a dead, fucking, rotted, fucking nasty
aspuss has to smell for this guy, the guy?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
How about that be that could have been any better?

Speaker 10 (50:01):
Right?

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Right?

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Right? Yeah? Look at this plain field woman nearly wedded.
Oh my god, is that what you?

Speaker 5 (50:09):
I'm getting bombarded with the ads? Fuck you, Jeff Beza.
I don't think he has anything to do with it,
but he might. Who knows one of the two responsible
for everything?

Speaker 6 (50:18):
See, I got you he was after a handsome woman
like his mom.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Look at me. Let's be honest about the situation. Is
that a lady? Dude? What am I looking at here?

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Right?

Speaker 7 (50:28):
See, here's a here's a little bit better of a
photograph if you want to pull that out.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Yeah, this isn't the great images. It comes in a
little Uh. I don't know who scanned this, but I
think they did. Ah, I don't know what's going on here.
It looks a little fuzzy, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
A little bit looks looks like somebody you find it
very much like?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Uh, I don't know what I'm looking at, dude? Is
that a real person? Is this a real person hasn't
even met her.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
I don't know how much of this is totally fictitious.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
I mean, right, dude, right, well.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Because they spend this whole narrative. I mean, I'm not
trying to defend it. A guy and here's a screepy
some a bit. He's obviously there's some weird shit, but
I'm just saying he never had a chance to defend himself. Finally,
the appeals, he's in the looney bind. They burn all
the evidence. I'm just saying, I often concerned my matters
with my life, and concerned way to say, let me wine.
Holy smokes, you know, I feel like I might still

(51:22):
be lost in I feel like I've been lost him
up in the world all week.

Speaker 10 (51:25):
Hold on, folks, So, so, how how are all of
those little wave ripples? How are those so perfectly matching
what's in the video?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
All the dons, all the spercial patterns look the same.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
This is like saying that my butthole is your butthole
because they're similar, right, It's not being we don't have
the same butthole.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Because of that, you're using butthole a lot of context.

Speaker 10 (51:52):
You're talking about buttholes making everyone feel weird.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
That's the point. He's that termed buttholes, making folks off
feel all weird.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Here, Julia, I said it any better.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
I was saying, I have to consider myself with matters
of liberty, just like these two gents to And I'm
not unlike yourself, ma'am. As far as getting to the facts,
there is no getting the facts are just like ed
guyin did it? We found all the ship in his house,
Lock him up, throw away the key and burn it.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Well, okay, how about this. I have this in my
notes that and I wanted to talk to you guys
about it. Wisconsin, right, satanic colts ripping and running through
this area. Let's look at some similarities between Jeffrey Dahmer
and Okay.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
Somehow quick right before we do that. This is something
I think you all will find very interesting JJ, if
you want to do. Oh yeah, I see that Ed
Gan buried at three am. What are the fucking odds
of bay?

Speaker 6 (53:01):
Which is our man?

Speaker 7 (53:03):
Right? Exactly?

Speaker 4 (53:04):
He died at seventy seven as well.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Yep, maybe he's a Matchbox twenty fan from the nineties.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Oh, who I've been I've been doing de cuss in
the nineties of my son, I've been torturing with dad
jokes like that.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I do apologize. Go ahead, go ahead, We're.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Talking about satanic coltire right, buried at three am. He
was seventy seven years old, like Aleister Crowley seventy seven
shit right, he spent twenty seven years in the mental hospital. Yes,
are these numbers not totally sticking out to you as
sus as fuck?

Speaker 7 (53:40):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, all of them, all of all
of them.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
If I may be honest, there really is no difference
between this man of fens and folks, which is covens
and satanic colts.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
This is the same.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
These are terms used by the Satanists, and this former
Satanist can can correct me if I'm in correct here.
But based upon the statements of one muppet, mikey Akino
and his a dribble, it's just I've read so many.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Of his book it's absolute dribble.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
This guy just sat in the room smelling his own farts,
probably using a typewriter because he's just as crusty old
some a bit write in these books. But what I'm
and in loving every mite of those parts. He's like, oh,
that's a good one, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Just I'm just I try to put I don't imagine
how he even wrote this. This is bullshit.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
But they're always saying there's no difference between covens and witches.
And you know Lilith his wife was doing covens and
he was doing you know, Grotto's.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
And they're all the same ship.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
Right, So we see all this, we see all this
ship in Wisconsin where they want to you know, there's
probably something well we're standing colt or, which is go
fuck yourselves. So there's probably a lot of this activity
going on in Wisconsin, you know what.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
I mean, go fuck yourself? Yeah, no kidding, I mean
so is the years.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Though, right, it's probably just so intrenched.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
I apologize, man, I just got want to finish my
point real quick where I got lost it again. But
like so you're speaking Dahmer, right, So we see these
in the fifties, right, Dahmers, and in the seventies and eighties.
But I'm saying this has been going on with all
these cults in Wisconsin for so many years around these
fucking mounds, then it's probably so entrenched.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
In the hierarchy of authoritative structures there right.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Well, sure, I mean I think our nation was founded
by satanic cults.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I mean that's nation we're talking about, Canada.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
You know what I'm talking about, JJ, You know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Well, we were founded by an ancient alien cargo cult.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Yes, ma'am. They do, in fact haunt the moon's pale beams.
I've heard that in the song Somewhere.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
That's a good song.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
So as a former Satanist there, Jacob J.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
You know, is there a great delineation between witches, covens
satanic activity or is this commonly dispute as folks kind
of just bounced between the two, and they're often referred
to as the same.

Speaker 7 (55:57):
I mean you kind of hit the nail on the
head there. They do kind of float in between each other.
Of course, if you would talk to any of them,
they would say, hey, whoa, whoa, No, there there is
no connection. Uh you know, we're just peaceful wickens. And
it's like, well, we don't even know each other, right,
you know, ignore the fact that the person that you

(56:17):
know invented the modern wickan uh you know, was a
student of Aleister Crowley. Just steamroll over that. But right, right,
and so yeah, I mean that the New Age movement
is very clearly you know, uh, thelemic very clearly. So yeah,

(56:40):
I mean they they do kind of float in in
and out of the circles. This is, you know, to
tie it back to the West Memphis three. This is
why Damien Eccles kind of floats and said that he
was wicking instead of saying he was a saintan.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Yeah, there you go, sir, there you go. And his
girlfriend was a vampire, right, and we're all fun we
all have in a fantasy world. Well, you know, be
what you want to be whatever.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Right, right, So I mean it is kind of yeah, right.
Typically the were wolves are more intergrained with the Nazism.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
You ain't kidding, sir. And that was Michael's precise purpose
behind that, right. The werewolf units stay behind Nazi Operation
Gladio Fuckers.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Nicholas Nicholas Shrek you know runs Radio Werewolf you know.
There you another one, right, and uh, Xena Levey she's
also involved in all of that. Yes, yes, that one right. Which,
by the way, when the first time I saw that,

(57:46):
holy hell is that spooky? Like wow?

Speaker 5 (57:51):
I mean I often play a game he was your daddy,
what does he do. But he was her mommy, and
what does she do?

Speaker 7 (57:56):
Because it's also I'm I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift as
a man, it.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Was it was his mom I mean, what does she
do then about that?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
That's not the first time I've heard that. Actually, that's
that's pretty crazy, And I just wanted to say. Somebody
in the comment section said John Wilkes Booth was a
part of that cult with Ben Franklin and a Keno. Uh.
I just talked to a guest literally yesterday about John
Wilkes Booth and how he faked his fucking death and

(58:27):
like ran away somewhere and all that. I mean, it's
it's crazy the connections.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
That makes sense. But what cold he referenced in here?
Are they?

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Is this a time traveling colt because he's been lived
far apart from one another time was?

Speaker 4 (58:40):
Oh, I don't even know. I just saw that comment
and I talked to a guest yesterday.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
I was talking about I'm catching up man now I
see the comment.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah, right here a cult with Been Franklin and a Keno.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Yeah, Uncle Ted, I'm interested. I'm not sure the reference
is this?

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Is there a Burger element to all this is? Ever?

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Telling me, well another comments in there.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Where I get is any further off topic regarding these manners.
So it seems that perhaps ed Guin might have been
born into this situation.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Was his mother's.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
In her col text, he was involved in the sort
of drug sex or rock and roll in this prethlemic
kind of era of Satanism. I don't know, because she
was in the prepublic era of at least right pre
nineteen fifty six.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
She she made herself look like she was such a
what do they call it, like a devout? Uh?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Everyone all women are Harlot's and all men are.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
This disagree with that, I mean no disrespect to present company,
but I don't necessarily agree with every point.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
There's a lot of mat.

Speaker 9 (59:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
She Uh, guy's mom was onto something. She may have
been an extremist viewpoint, but she was onto something.

Speaker 7 (59:58):
Almost like she saw into the future and saw you know,
the average.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Yeah. Now, but I did want to mention really quick
before I forget there. There's a chapter in Program to Kill.
It's chapter sixteen. It's called the Collectors.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
So these are these are the people who are mentioned, right,
Leonard Lake, John Wayne Gacy, Bob Ridella, Gary Heidnik, Jeffrey Dahmer,
herb Boomeister, which is a really if anybody's ever looked
into that guy, it's fucking weird. And then.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Uh, the Godfather being Ed Gian there, I'm bringing it
up right now, man, how about the uh you you
you mentioned. I don't disagree about Baumeister, He's very interesting,
But how about ship you just said his name? To
say a name again, give me a name, Jeffrey Dahmer. No,
that wasn't it, Bob Bardello. That's a very interesting case

(01:01:02):
that ever laps with that BTK situation.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
We'll see they run in networks, right, and they are
all part of the cults. Well look at this shit, right,
Let's let's look at the similarities between Dahmer and Gian,
who are both based out of Wisconsin. Taxidermy okay, collecting
of body parts, using the body parts as household items, cannibalism, necrophilia,

(01:01:32):
not admitting to all the victims. Jeffrey Dahmer also he
went down for like I think thirteen but only ever
admitted to eleven. They're both out of Wisconsin. But the
thing is, it's like, how many how many times are
you going to run across two guys who are perpetrating
almost identical fucking shit like this taxidermy using the body

(01:01:55):
parts as weird household items. Jeffrey Dahmer admitted to being
into Satanism. They're both into necrophilia, and at some point
both ed Gian and Jeffrey Dahmer offered their neighbors human
meat as sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Served up at home. Yeah, lid you, ma'am.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
You often come here with a lot of details, and
I do guarantee, folks, this will be a born burner,
I do. You're blowing up my brain hole, maam. So uh,
these matters you're describing is what I like to call
the greatest common denominator. That's how I look at these
kind of situations. And yeah, yeah, and that's how that's
why I've been describing my my satan Thursday shows of
unpacking these things chronologically speaking, you know, temporially speaking, time wise,

(01:02:41):
and I've been mapping the shit out and you see
these pockets Fall River, Massachusetts, Bridgewater Triangle. They can go
fuck themselves up in that region. I hope they got
locked up Buffalo. You, I have no one knows where Buffalo,
Jared is. Right now, I'm just saying, yeah, I'm not.
Maybe folks are safe. Maybe I'm the only one who
needs to stay vigilant on those matters.

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
I'll stay vigilant.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
YEA, he is a He's a hypnotic trans apocalypse mind
controlled multi state assassin.

Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
Well you noticed wanted to be my pr rep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
These people for some you know, God only knows how
they're able to do this. But these people travel, you know,
they get.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
The the the zizzy and death cults. They're traveling fucking carnife.
But stay about them. That death cult is still on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
The loose, that uh Silicon Valley based AI focused uh rationalists,
trans apocalypse vegan death cult, they're on the loose.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
They're processing to by.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
The way, irrational Stay vigilant for those folks, but also
stay vigilant for lasers.

Speaker 9 (01:03:45):
There's thousands of Americans out there. By the way, I've
been shot with a laser beating.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Twice, folks.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
Folks, they got ted twice. Stay vigilant, so the go ahead,
go ahead. It looks like you got some mind.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Other than the laser b hole. I mean, we talked
about this with Scott Peterson, right how they framed the husband.
But the white and then they killed the wife. Right,
But they were probably both involved in the same cult. Right,
That's what we were talked about before. So like it's
the same thing here. So ed Gian would go to
his neighbor's house and be like, I shot this deer

(01:04:21):
and I have too much meat and I just thought
you could you know, you might want some. And Jeffrey
Dahmer is like knocking on his neighbors at the apartments,
like I got this delicious pull pork sandwich for you. Like, yeah,
it's like they have to offer it to other people
to like induct them into some kind of weird ritualism
where they're like consuming human flesh like the Book of

(01:04:43):
Eli think of it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
I think what it is is it's like some sort
of like a almost like a Bingo card square, you know,
because they're in all of these cults, and so it's
kind of a joke amongst these six fucks where they're like, oh, yeah,
well I got my neighbor to eat you know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
In the case of Jeffrey.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Dahmer, right, it's the they invert everything. It's the inversion.
It's the degradation math yea aspects of everything. Right, So
and they can deceive folks in the process. That that's
the fucking trifective form right there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Well think about this though, right, So it's like Edgie
and is like this this gumpy like everybody loves him
and he's like, you know, a sweetheart supposedly, but he's
like kind of simple minded, like where where is he
actually getting these ideas to do this stuff? And then
like several years later, Jeffrey Dahmer, in the same state

(01:05:40):
is perpetrating almost identical type shit like where are they
getting these ideas of the shower?

Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
And let's not forget Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy
attended the same bar in Chicago many many a times.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Well, it's also weird too, right, Like the day Jeffrey
Dahmer is supposedly saved and baptized is the day John
Wayne Gacy gets executed. Like there's all these weird it's
it's it's part of the ritualism, in my opinion, how
they do things. And oh, by the way, it just
so happened to be some weird solstice when Jeffrey Dahmer
got baptized and John Wayne Gacy got executed on such

(01:06:19):
and such solstice coincidence, right, total coincidence. But they I
also think that John Wayne Gacy, and this is my
opinion obviously, and I could be totally wrong, but John
Wayne Gacy could have also been kind of like a
finisher guy. He liked to do stuff with the dead bodies.
But I don't know if he necessarily killed all those

(01:06:42):
people that, all those boys that weren't.

Speaker 7 (01:06:44):
I don't think he did at all. And personally, I
think he was more involved in the uh, the snuff aspect,
right than anything, because the Stag film was so much
a part of his story and so right, and so
I don't think that he was necessarily this grand serial

(01:07:05):
killer per se. I'm sure he killed people that that
I'm sure of, but I don't I don't. I don't
think that that was his thing. I think it was
the snuff thing. He got these boys in there, uh
and probably got them hooked up through Philip Pasky, as
my guest, because that's that's the tie to uh John
David Norman, and that that's what John David Norman was

(01:07:28):
all about, right, And he ran the Odyssey Foundation and
all all of these other organizations from jail. Mind you,
he's able to do it while in jail, and so yeah,
they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Normal normal prison can do those things. That's fine, right, He.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
The the when the first pedo Island guy. Uh so
so so it was.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
It wasn't John John David Norman, but John David Norman
actually had ties to Frances Sheldon who ran North Fox
Island in Michigan, and that that was like you know
that era's Epstein. He was the one that ran the
ran the snuff films out of Michigan. That was tied

(01:08:15):
to uh oh it was another serial killer. Uh some
some county up in Michigan. There was a bunch of
child killings in the eighties and that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
That was all tied down child killers.

Speaker 7 (01:08:27):
Yes, yes, same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
In California, sir, You aren't corrected, Michigan.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
Right, So, so yeah, it is. It's tied to all
of these And it's just so interesting that you have
all of this, you know, child sex trafficking because even
though they're teenagers, their children they're babies, right, you have
all this child sex trafficking and at the same time
these serial killers just pop up in the same circles.

(01:08:54):
Like that's not of coincidence.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
That's what I'm see Jacob is a man after my
own heart, because I look into all of this stuff
and it blows my mind how it's it's kept from
the public, and it's portrayed in serial killer documentaries like
it's one way, when really it's a huge network that
connects all these fuckers. And I think my opinion that

(01:09:21):
Ryan Murphy has either read Program to Kill or he
fucking knows about it, because he's putting a lot of
pieces together. He's been putting pieces together since American horror
stories rely.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Just bragging shit, right are these bragging a by their friends?
Because look who writes the book about all these matters
of psycho, who starts introducing these concepts of guying into
fiction for the first time, And he's friends oh alone,
behold with the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I don't know if he's in occultist, but he's friends
with a bunch of occultists. I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
That HP Lovecraft too, right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Well, he's also he's also friends with Forrest j Ackerman.
Forest Jackman was OG member of the Agape Lodge with
Jack Parsons and el Ron Hubber. He was the OG
member of Scientology with his buddy l Ron and Lo
and behold, he was an og member.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Of the Church of Satan, probably in the process. Fu. Yeah, dude,
he's an assure you.

Speaker 7 (01:10:14):
So he has some sort of ties to intelligence, then,
I'm sure right somewhere, some somewhere along the line, maybe
even just for one time, for sure intelligence somewhere.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Well, all those fellows are dude, right, you know, all
those sci fi writers. So for re, Ackerman was like
the godfather. He's the guy who coined the term science fiction.
He's the guy, he's the editor and agent for all
of these guys. He's also the guy who's in the
first Superman comic because Superman Ship is, in my opinion,
thelemicfan fiction.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
And on that note, before you go, mister B. T. Wallace,
do you have any plugs? I also have. I'm gonna
hold your hostage there, but do you have any plugs?

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
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everywhere you can find me YouTube, even I just do audio,
so there's no awesome video like this, but those are
my links.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
Uh, yes, sir, I'll put him in the show. Now,
Folks at the interwebs check out I highly recommend enjoy
your podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Shirts.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Well, well, produced well, uh well, good, you know, produce
some good thoughts of all brain over there, thought provoking thoughts.
You bet you don't go nowhere? So I got you
got you gotta give me one more minute here, sir,
because uh here. On Fridays, I like to play my
favorite game, Who is your daddy?

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
And what does he do?

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
And what? And what did he do?

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Who the fuck was that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
That's that's the Lord and Savior Jared Leeder.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
You look, Letto, who was the person at the end?

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Oh you saw that creepy song? Bitch? That's a drummer
from thirty seconds to mars. That's his brother.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Oh okay, I didn't know the old the old.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Guy at the ends allegedly his father.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
I'm not buying it, man, Oh you're not buying well,
I'm buying it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Man. It looks nothing like the guy. Let me bring
my picture for you in a non format.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Let me see it again. I gotta figure this is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Do you see? I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:12:42):
I could see his mother in him, right, I can
see a lot of letters mother in him here. Now,
don't get confused. Don't give confused. He's a Bryant by
biological name surnames Lettos is adopted stepfather. He dies a
very mysterious that himself.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Though, who is this now, Constance metri Jon that's his mother.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
I can see Jared. Yeah, it looks a lot. Come on,
that looks like Jared Letto with a.

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Wig, right right, Io, what is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Going on here? I don't see any of this dudes
to be his dad?

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, to come on, this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Is adopted dad. That's his adopted dad. They do you
recognize that is indeed his adopted David. This is supposed to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Be from Star Trek.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Fact is that even a real guy?

Speaker 10 (01:13:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
They're like, oh, this is Carletto.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
He's he's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections.

Speaker 5 (01:13:46):
He's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections, ma'am. He
also loves to play Marvel and d C characters and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Joker.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
The fact that he did he's got He's got a
couple more miss he did Fight Club for for example.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
There's another one. He got five roles.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
Maybe not, it's all DC Marvel, He's got five roles.
He's like, he's a very suspect character.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
Right well. The fact that he's also like a highly
successful musician and actor you know, is wild. Most people
can't do both, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
And he's having hangouts somewhere in the Laurel Canyon Lookout.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Mountain Lookout Mountain. No.

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
No, he sold it a couple of years ago, but
he bought it when it was so. He bought it
from whoever was running it as a rehab center, and
then he turned it into a house.

Speaker 9 (01:14:43):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:14:44):
I actually watched an interview with some woman who used
to clean it, and she said that there were parts
of the house where they weren't allowed to go trade to.

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
Do film studio stuff too, is what I heard.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
What in the same he suspects going on here? Ma'am?

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Yeah? And what's with the weird triangle on this kid?

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
Sure, I'm glad you asked me and I got that
up for here right now. Hold on, boom, that's the
official Jared Letto logo.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
You didn't know that? Come on now?

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
Is he gonna change his name to the artist formerly
known as Logo?

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
Hey, I dude, if you want to talk about folks
who wear other folks skin as a human coat, I mean,
Jared let is the top my list.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
I would I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Would definitely put him up there, but I'm gonna just
tell you right now, I thought it was sus that
he was even in Girl Interrupted, because that movie is
all about m K. It's got Winona Ryder, it's got
Angelina Jolie, it's got all this Wizard of Oz symbolism
in it, and who the fuck pops up? And Jared Leto. Oh,

(01:15:48):
and it's got Britney Murphy too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I mean it's like, yeah, who would have thought the
Second Coming already occurred? I mean, look at it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
Yeah, they always have to tell us what the are doing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Huh, exactly, the method exactly. He's like a Johnny Depp
though he's like a pretty guy, you know, he they
and they put him out there is like, oh, look
at Jared Leto. He's like this, uh yeah, you know,
super nice.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
Guys like Depp was way back in the nineties and stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:16:18):
You're right, except he's an actual successful musician.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Smirched my spiritual guru, Jared Leto.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Here, Hey, I'm not even judging. I'm not even judging.

Speaker 7 (01:16:33):
So I actually met.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Seriously, though, he seems like a major figure in some
sort of modern day Hollywood o cultism. Right, and again, yes,
you know, the way I look at it is these
these cultu these cult muppets, these Hollywood cult muppets, they
do like little cult pockets across America. For example, his
not necessarily his associate, but another fellow assumed Thela Mite
who plays a lot of you know, at least played
the Flash in a lot of DC films more than

(01:16:56):
more than once played the same character at least, right,
And that is Ezra Miller in that dude.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Literally starting.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
I saw about that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
I saw some some commentary from some from Montian's. That's
not a real thing, a fellow, Uh you know Green Mountaineer,
if you will. I'm not even I think I made
that up. But there was someone from Bennington, Vermont there
in the chat earlier, and uh, that's where Ezra Miller's
cult is down there by Bennington Vermont.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
He was also in uh uh, they did like some
kind of weird spin off of Harry Potter. It's called
Gary car or something. Fantastic Beasts. That's right. Yeah, was
in that too. So he's always popping up in like
some Weirdestcaultism type ship.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
Uh, why am I just blanking on his? Jared Letto
he was actually a regular at as Alon or yeah,
or whatever. Yeah, that's yeah. Salon. Uh you know, uh,
what the hell is that highway the one on one
or whatever, like all the way up at the top California. Yeah,

(01:18:09):
he was a regular up there for a drive.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
It's a beautiful drive you ever get a chance to
take it. I've only ever made it from San Diego
to the border of Oregon. They won't let me into
that state. Maybe maybe, maybe you all can take care
of that. Formula Beat and Julia I always get deserved.
I landed in Eureka, California, and I dare I say
Eureka I discovered the Great White or Great White Beer.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
No, that's not the name of it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:34):
I discovered some beer at a local brewery there that
changed my life for that weekend at least, and also
prevent me from getting Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
But is a beautiful drive.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
You found a beer?

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
No, it's the Lost Coast Brewing Company in Eureka, California.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
It's the Great Great White. It's like a Belgian ale.
I'd have a drinking years, but I discovered at that time.
I try to make it to Oregon instead, go to
the road brewery.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
It's some good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:19:04):
Well, yeah, I appreciate it's a fantastic I highly recommend it.
You know, it's a it's a beautiful stretch of stretch
of America. Dare I say California has some beautiful stretches
of America. I love California and it's not some people.

Speaker 7 (01:19:18):
It's a great state. Terrible politics.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
I was actually getting to say, a mini a serial
killer would agree with you, JJ. I mean there's been
bodies dumped up and down the coast.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
For speaking of dumping things.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
The last few times I've been in California, all I
have to do is step over human turds everywhere on
the sidewalks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
That's why I don't like California. San Francisco.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Los Angeles too, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
In December of twenty seventeen, myself and my dude, Kevin
and his his son, Little Kevin, Kevin the little human,
that's what we call him. Uh My dude, Kevin named
all of his kids Kevin, including his daughter. And it's weird, dude,
it's real weird. I don't judge Kevin a little human.
We were all driving through Los Angeles. We're in there
for a wedding in town, and there was a home

(01:20:04):
we had to intervene a home. A naked, naked, homeless
man was literally assaulting a I don't they must have
been in from Kansas.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
I don't know. These folks look lost.

Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
A young couple with two young children and he's he's
running down the street on naked and home was this
is we were. We had initially stopped because he was
shitting on the sidewalk before the onslaught of assault on
this young this young family we had intervened upon. We
just yelled, get away from your hobo, and he just,
you know, took off. He was just their hoboes. You know,
it doesn't take much to turn them usually. But anyhow,
that's Los Angeles for you. I saw a hobo ship

(01:20:36):
on the street in West West Hollywood, then nearly assault
a young family that had been fun to watch, right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Well, you know, this isn't a California story, but this
one time I went with my family to Dallas to
go to the jfk assassination. Whatever the fill, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
The new California. That's the new Dallas in Austin or
the new California.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
There's like a little place over there where you can
go to some museum and it's got like all this
JFK stuff and you can like go see like the
road and the Grassy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Knoll and all that fascination museum. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
Yeah, so white hole in the nose for her name right,
the sixth floor. It's literally on the sixth floor, Yes, sixth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Floor, right, get muppets.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
You wouldn't think this of Dallas. Uh, but you know,
we were just walking my family and there was a
homeless guy and he was just like begging for spare
change or whatever the fuck he was begging for, and uh,
my sister in law like went to go reaching her purse.
She was actually going to give this asshole some like

(01:21:41):
money or something, and he spit on her.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
And I was like, see that's you don't want to
They're not a savory bunch man. You don't want to
get here. You want to say, was about ten to
twelve feet away from these.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Type of characters. It's cenerally fairrible. At least didn't he
not just.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Uh, you know, shittings spitting whatever. She was gonna buy
the guy fucking you know, six inch subway sub and
he just spit right in her face.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
So that's what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
Maybe maybe she offered a water burger. Maybe there'd have been,
you know, just an outcome.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
I don't even like.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
I don't I don't go near the type. But I
treat them all like wild animals people. I'm not trying
to be dehumanized, and I'm just saying, look, let's be
honest about it. You're bound to get stabbed. I try
to remove myself from any environment that I'm bound to
get stabbed, and that's very much an environment.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
Or ship or spit on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
I mean, there you go. I'm wanted you that either
be quite honest with you. Don't need that in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
I do want to say, though, because I think I'm
gonna have to go myself here in a minute. But
the whole uh sensationalism behind serial killers, I do have
to say it made It's made people fear everything, right,
not just homeless people. It's made people lock their doors
at night.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I see there was.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
It's it's you know, it's really scary too.

Speaker 5 (01:23:01):
Because sorry, maybe ma'am, that's an excellent point you just make,
because you know, oftentimes we often describe things.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
As you know, you two are just as guilty as
this is himself.

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
And broader terms of saying like Operation Gladio in our
conspiracy culture podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Hosting, and you know, I've actually had folks ask me, like,
you know, can you get this.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
Not they're not saying we don't, they don't understand it,
They're just like, can you get to some of the
finer details.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Help folks understand these concepts more. But that is that's
the concept right there. You nailed it, the impact of
changing altering the way they live, right yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
It's it's total fear and domination. Because there was even
a serial killer. He was called the Vampire of Sacramento.
His name is Richard Well, you know, he was a
sick fuck and he would, you know, practice blood drinking.
He was definitely mentioned in Program to Kill. You know,

(01:23:53):
he would uh do all this ritualistic stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
But the organs and drink it smooth.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Oh fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
It was disgusting. But the way that he chose his
victims is he would try all the doors, and whoever
didn't lock their door that night, that was the invitation
to get murdered.

Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
I guess yep.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
So it's like go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
I mean it just has instilled fear into the hearts
and the minds of the general public. And I think
that's part of what the serial killer program is meant
to do.

Speaker 7 (01:24:26):
It's like that was the whole point.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
YEA, to quote our nation's finest law enforcement organization, the
Federal Bureau of on Investigations, those fucking muppets. The former
assistant director, Thomas Flints said, when he's making a budget
for a law enforcement and intelligence agency, which was literally
his job in two thousand and four.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
When he made this statement, it's on YouTube. I'll find
it in a second if you need to see it.
I sent it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
But he said when making a budget, he said he's
not going to tell folks he slved crime and solved terrorism.
And what he says his mantra or his uh, you
know philosophy is keep for alive, keep it alive.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
That's the point. That's the point, even even with this
right like Edgie and snown As like the godfather of
the serial killers, but he's not actually a serial killer one, right,
and we don't know that he even killed anybody. There
you go, and it's like these networks are working in
tandem to a make you scared somebody's gonna come get

(01:25:26):
your kids. B maybe they're just gonna fucking cut your
puss off and wear it around the house and their mom's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Underwear, maybe yours can be victimized.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
Well, the beetle is definitely on the table.

Speaker 7 (01:25:39):
That's that's the whole point behind mine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
It was literally on ed Guine's table.

Speaker 7 (01:25:43):
Wasn't that It sure was, It sure was. But yeah,
that's that's the whole point behind mind control is fear.
That's that's the easiest way for them to control the masses,
which is why now we see, you know, the rise
in the school shooter and terrorism, uh specifically homegrown terrorism,
which is being you know continually, yes, sir, and it's

(01:26:07):
being carried over from you know, all of the militia
fear in the nineties, you know, and anything to keep
us in that perpetual state of fight or flight is
the best way to control the masses because then we're
more suggestible. And also when when they do these things,

(01:26:29):
like the way they report them is they show the
terrible things and because that that actually traumatizes us, so
we all get trauma bonded together, like this most recent
thing with Charlie Kirk. You know, yes, the the algorithm
was allowed to let that video go wild, so everyone

(01:26:51):
was traumatized and that was done in a way so
we would turn around, we would be fearful, we'd be traumatized,
and then the masses would be more open to you know,
our saviors, the politicians that would come in and fix it,
or the FBI or whatever we got because they got.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Are you saying that they don't got to say this
from the tyrney.

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
No, no, no, no, The federal basketball investigators are not
going to do jack shit to save us sick.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Well, and think about this too, right, Think about being
alive in the nineteen fifties and seeing the crime scene
photos that they pulled from Ed's house. Right, it's the
nineteen fifties. You go to sleep with your door unlocked,
You have a milkshake down at the fucking Back to
the Future cafe. You know, this is how I think

(01:27:42):
of the nineteen fifties, right, right. But it's like he
had human face masks, he had human body suits, he
had bowls in silverware made of skeletons. I'm mean this,
I mean, how do you think? Did you?

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Here's my question? Man, these are all excellent points.

Speaker 10 (01:28:07):
With may.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
I'll go I apologize, Go ahead, I was cutting out there,
Go ahead, finish finish.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Please go ahead, go ahead. That I mean, that's pretty
much all I was going to say about that is
like the reaction of the public. It had to be crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
Oh again, it was a fucking circus. That's a great point.
And again I think this is we see the evolutions
of these matters. The circus is starting there and how
they evolve. But how many other people have human face masks?

Speaker 9 (01:28:34):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:28:34):
He ain't the only one, you know. I mean, we're
told about him. Everyone focused on him. He's all him,
and no one asked the question, well, who the fuck
who else got these face masks? We're else doing this ship.
So you know, I don't want to go to you
for can you know what that thought for me?

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Sir? I don't want to go too for off topic,
and I do want to. I want to.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
I want to respond to Julia's tail about this uh
fucking muppet museum in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
But uh, I'll go ahead, sir. Is your statement further?

Speaker 7 (01:29:02):
Just real quick before we move off of this. So
this this is something I recently I wrote. I think
I said it to you, Jju, a piece I wrote
about the mind control being used in the Charlie Kirk
assassination stuff, and it's it's all about, uh, how the
Charlie Kirk assassination video was pushed to traumatize the public

(01:29:23):
for trauma based mind control and so that the wide,
the widespread dissemination of the graphic assassination video via social
media algorithms fit into a deliberate strategy of trauma based
mind control. Uh T B m C.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Can we can we table that?

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
Because I think ju is gonna have to pop smoke
and then you're going to be resolving your matters here
this sevenon, we'll be closing down on that. Can we
go over that here in a moment, We'll give Julius
some closing thoughts and then we'll go over that if
you don't.

Speaker 7 (01:29:53):
Mind, yes, sir?

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Uh well, thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Hold I thought, Julia, because before you do that, we.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Had a big day out there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Think we've got a full moon.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
People are gonna be amped. All right, let's say we
got on hot tips, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Whoa the new bathmats. One more thing, we've got a
serial rapist and Crown Heights. Oh jesu, sorry, that's from
my other job. Forget that. Well, don't ignore it. If
you live in Crown Heights.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
You know, way to end it, That is the perfect
way to that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Rapists and Crown Heights.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Yeah, no, he's coming after.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
I appreciate your be all comments. It's always good times
here in your nicknames. Appreciate you coming back here join
us A gil GCD here I do uh when I
would you believe or not? I had someone myself upon
this assassination museum you described, it's m up at museum
in Dallas on December fourteenth, twenty twelve. That that data
sounds from there, that is the date of Sandy Hook business.

(01:31:21):
I would already plan on going there that afternoon after
some meetings that morning, and barks to the Air Force
base at the uh the fake nuclear missile headquarters there,
and it's a real headquarters, but the nuclear missiles were fake.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
I'm sitting there that morning watching that old event's unfold
and then I find myself in a different false flag
kind of operations there if you will, that afternoon and
I'm staying on the corner and this fella says, hey,
do you want a tour of Dealey Plaza? And I'm like,
I mean, I guess, who are you?

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Weird hobo? Guy looking guy, and he says, because there's
no one there's it's creepy.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
There's literally no one on the streets in the area
of town at like five o'clock in the evening because
the museum closes at six, and there's there's no one around.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
And there's suddenly this dude on the street next to me.
I'm all right, dude, let's take it down. And you
are you?

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
What do you want because you look like a hobo guy.
I don't want to get spit on, like your like
your friend there. Yeah, I mean you watch out and uh.
He he's like, oh, I'm a security guard at the
Muppet Museum.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Like, oh, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
He's like, I'm dropping off a Christmas gift to my
buddy was going on vacation. There's coworking all right on.
He's like, I used to give tours of Daily Plaza.
He's like, I was seven years old. I was standing
right here when when it occurred to I'm like, going,
fox sake, let's do this, budd So I'll wait for
you to go drop off that gift. And he went
and he gave me a full tour of the whole place,
and it was a it was an interesting experience, so
I learned a lot more about it than I than

(01:32:33):
I previously had known that day, and from a dude
he was there.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Yeah, I mean I still say shots came from the front.
So whatever they got to say about the you know,
shots from the front is all I have to say
about that. Whether they can give you a tour of
the window and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Like, yeah, Charlie Kirk back into the left.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Right, But yeah, I got I got mom duty calling me.
I do appreciate you guys having me. I really appreciate it.
I hope I was able to, you know, make it
worth your while.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I do think that real barn burner, real barn burner.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Yeah, I mean, this stuff popping up in pop culture
with these new shows, I think it's definitely worth talking
about because it's not as it appears to be.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
Yeah, and they keep trying to reshape the narrative, right,
reframe me stories, sell us new tales, you know, and whatnot.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Absolutely yeah, but Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts,
thank you so much guys for having me. And I'll
actually probably finish listening to this episode tomorrow or whenever
it's posted, so we'll see what you guys end up
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Yes, man, we're going to talk about some of Charlie
Kirk stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
It sounds like in Jacob's recent the other JJ's recent
you know blog post on the matter, and I do.
You will also hear that clip from Thomas Fintes where
you can stick around for twenty nine seconds if you'd
like to hear it now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Sure, maybe if you're submitting budget proposals for a law
enforcement agency for intelligence agency, you're not gonna submit your
proposal that we won the war on terror and everything's
great because the first thing is going to happen and
your budget's going to be cut in half.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
It's my opposite of Jesse Jackson's keep Hope alive. Let's
keep figure alive, keep it alive.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
What a muppet?

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
What a muppet.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
I do appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us to
get it or joining media GCD and the other JJ.
You're leaving us with dueling jjs.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
So that's what we got.

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
Yeah, it was a real pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
Yeah, great to meet you and have fun.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
Guys, see you next time, all right, sir, Dueling JJ's
it is, let's go.

Speaker 7 (01:34:55):
So I mean this this does kind of you know.
Of course this blog post I wrote it about the
Charlie Kirk coverage, but I mean it really does apply
to almost everything, like the serial killer stuff we were
talking about tonight, the school shootings, like all of this.
What it is is they're introducing mass trauma through graphic,

(01:35:18):
unfiltered content. Like that's the whole point, right, And so
specifically regarding the Charlie Kirk assassination, the videos raw depictions, blood, chaos,
and Kirk's immediate collapse was optimized for platforms like TikTok,
where short looping clips amplify emotional impact.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
Do you have your I don't have your website, sir,
I can't find it the book mark. Yeah, I've been
lost them up at the World.

Speaker 7 (01:35:45):
No, you're totally good. You're totally good.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
I think our initial scheduling conflicts that began this week
was due to my being lost them up at the World.
I sent you an invite, I sent Austin Way for
card and an invite, and I failed the to send
your other associate, Jose an invite. But that's you know,
That's how I mean. Those fellows join us in here
in the future possible here for another one. I know

(01:36:09):
Austin and I I've already rescheduled for uh November seventh.
You're welcome to join us sero and that even like
I'd like to talk mats.

Speaker 7 (01:36:16):
Oh nazis right right, Yeah, I would. I would love
to uh to be there. I'll talk to Austin about
that and whatnot, so that that would be great.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
He's he we we're good to go on that, Surrey,
put it on your books, come on down. But yeah,
the I was hoping to get a little neckro man,
Like I said, a little necromancy going on to night Mormons,
you know, being operations g C D Live and you
guys are already dead. So yeah, I figured that's a
little bit of necromancy.

Speaker 7 (01:36:44):
Going on, right right. So so this is an exert.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
My microphone almost jumped off from table.

Speaker 7 (01:36:50):
Yes, wrangle it, watch it, watch out. So anyone who's curious,
this is my uh my sub stack that anyone can find.
It's called were the mocking Bird. Uh you know, Operation Mockingbird.
You got to beware that damn Mockingbird because it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
Is out there and it exists, and it's probably even
worse there than it was. You imagine, dude, that's what
I'm saying. The way these things metastasize, if you will,
in our society.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
And you know, if it's a.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
Few reporters like Dan rather back and you see the left, Dan,
he must have missed that one, right, yeah, back back
in nineteen sixty three, is a few reporters, Well what
is that now amongst our social media times or TikTokers
or YouTube you know, all these matters.

Speaker 7 (01:37:32):
Right exactly. And that's that's kind of the problem, because
all of this stuff is just way more amplified. So
here here in the blog post, uh, here in the
section it's talking about the release of the video itself
because we all saw it, whether we wanted to or not.
Like we all saw it, and we had no choice

(01:37:53):
in the matter, and that was intentional. So right here.
Number two, inducing mass trauma through graphic, unfiltered content. The
videos raw description, blood chaos, and Kirk's immediate collapse was
optimized for platforms like TikTok, where short looping clips amplify
emotional impact. This aligns with trauma based mind control tactics.

(01:38:15):
Sudden visceral trauma causes psychological disassociation, where the mind checks
out to cope leaving individuals more open to subconscious programming.
Conspiracy narratives frame this as a ritual sacrifice broadcast for
imprinting flags, intel symbols, and preloaded family photos in coverage

(01:38:38):
subliminally reinforced narratives of division, example left versus right. Mental
health concerns surge post release with reports of anxiety and
decentralized or desensitization, but the syop's goal is deeper. Traumatized
publics become fragmented, less likely to unite against systemic issues

(01:38:59):
like donor influence or foreign meddling in Kirk's death by
making trauma viral, controller's test and normalized violence, eroding empathy,
and priming for future ops. So, I mean, granted, like
I said, I wrote this about the Kirk coverage, However

(01:39:19):
it applies to all of it because it's the exact
same tactics being used over and over.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
Yeah, dude, I was about to say, I was rooting
around my brain hole with those ideas you were just describing,
and I'm like, yeah, dude, this is literally the same
framework we see time and time again.

Speaker 7 (01:39:35):
Right, And that's that's kind of why I wrote this too.
I mean, it's the Kirk thing was because it's you know,
it's in the front of everyone's mind and everyone's talking
about it. But these are the same tactics to literally anything.
So just real quick, the last little bit I thought
would be important here is the strategy weaponizes social media

(01:39:58):
as a weapon of mass psychological warfare, turning a single
event into a tool for collective conditioning. If true, it's
a test of how far trauma can be scaled digitally
to enforce control without overt force. And this is the
things that we've all got to be on the lookout for.

(01:40:18):
So even if you don't watch mainstream media.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Anymore, we're being ops here, bud, Yeah, on lookout for
sy ops.

Speaker 9 (01:40:27):
And like there's thounds of Americans out there. By the way.
I've been shot with a laser beam twice.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Yes, JJ, they got to twice. Watch out. So he
was a king of syops.

Speaker 7 (01:40:39):
He loves right, He sure did, He sure did. And
I mean got shot twice.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
You know, you know, I've been trying to get down
to brass tacks and what how that may have occurred.
I might be onto something, but please continue, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:40:56):
Well that that's kind of just it. You know, all
of this stuff you know, I I do think serial
killers probably would have like occurred naturally. I think there's
like a lot of things that kind of lead to this.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
But well, it was that point I may I may
serve real quick, they may have occurred naturally, but how
do they perpetrate naturally?

Speaker 10 (01:41:17):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:41:18):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:41:20):
It was definitely I so my personal opinion kind of
just building on the program to kill theory. I think
they took something that was happening, that happening naturally, but
in very low numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
We see that today. That's a great point there. We
see that today with this trans apocalypse exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:41:39):
So they're taking something that's kind of happening naturally through society,
and then they amplify it by these tactics that they
learned through MK Ultra and other similar.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
Program and electronic controls and ship too. Because again, yes,
all this trans apocalypse stuff had some out there's some
element I don't I'm not a doctor, sir, I'm also
not as president. I won't begin to understand these matters,
but I will say that there's some some sort of
electronic warfare involved with it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:07):
Video games is always discord is always I just get
down to one of the greatest common denominators, if you will.
And you know there's always discorders. You know, there's some
very specific elements. It seems to scream some sort of
electronic warfare being involved, whether it's through the flicker rates
or the patterns in the video games. I don't know
these things. I'm not a doctor, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:42:28):
Right, well, and that's exactly what's happened. M mk ultra
has gone digital. You know, I know they don't even
have to pull you into a scary location to program
you anymore. They just have to do it through your phone.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:42:43):
They target specific type of person and then that's it.
Once they got their claws in you boom.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
Well, because some of them yeah, that's a great point,
because some of them experiments we're talking about in this
mk ultra, another broader program similar to it. They did,
in fact, when I say they might have been them
folks that got ted with them lasers, but they did
in fact determined that they can they got them, Sir,
I think I may have. I don't know if I
mentioned this, I may have found the source before I

(01:43:10):
finished my point. Let me let me get to that.

Speaker 7 (01:43:14):
One simple request, and that is to have sharks with
freaking laser beings attached to their heads. Notice how he
got so multiple laser bands.

Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
They got, they got, they got him twice of them sharks.
I think, But yeah, I think what we're looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
I mean love. I love shitting on Ted. It's great.

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
It's one of my favorite pastimes. Here operations, g c
D the What was I saying I've done last? I
got so much enjoyment out of shipping on Ted.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
What was I saying?

Speaker 7 (01:43:46):
You were talking about the mk ultra of being digitalized
and how they they can target us uh with without
pulling us into these locations.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Program dude, thank you sir.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
I once again, while you were describing that, I got
lost once again in mupple world because I was trying
to find this boom.

Speaker 7 (01:44:09):
Lasers such a fucking muppet.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
In the studies and experiments of these spooky natures they did.
They did, in fact, looking at some of it. I
looked at some of it, and what I could discern
is they understood the flicker rates and all these other
matters of light and the flickerate of the light and
the beaming of these messages, the ability to subvert the
conscious natures of the brain with some of this imagery
and the flicker rations and whatnot to subvert consciously, that

(01:44:37):
you can implant things subconsciously.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
And this ship was these were known nomes, if you will,
I mean, when.

Speaker 5 (01:44:43):
We're talking here at operation of GCDs are talking about psychopaths,
I like to get myself in the brain hoble psychopaths.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
As we know there are known nomes. There are things
we know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
We know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
We also know there are known unknowns.

Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
That is to say, we know there are some things
we do not know, but they're also unknown unknowns.

Speaker 6 (01:45:02):
The ones we don't know we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
I love that muppet.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
So thes we know about knowing is that they do
know these things. And then we can see how these
things are being applied in video games. It makes you wonder,
here's an unknown unknown sir, what the fuck was Jeffrey
Epstein doing funding video games?

Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:45:23):
Right? Well, you know, well, once again the revelation of
the method. You know, as as I'm going down these
rabbit holes become more and more apparent, and all you
have to do is just look at the things that
they call, you know, these devices and everything. So tell
a vision. It's telling a vision. They're channels because you're

(01:45:45):
channeling something and it's programming, because you're being programmed, right,
These are not these are not named coincidentally. You know,
my favorite quote from David McGowan, How many coincidences do
that take to make a conspiracy? And they're all coincidence,
you know, And it's I don't believe in coincidence anymore.

(01:46:09):
There is no coincidence. In my opinion, A genuine coincidence
would would be so mathematically astronomical that if they do happen,
it would be so rare. I guarantee most people have
never experienced a genuine coincidence, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
I'm not a coincidence there. However, they got ted.

Speaker 7 (01:46:34):
They got ted, sir, They got at least at least so.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
And here we see the epicenter of electronic warfare, psychological operations,
and fucking satanism with this, this fucking muppet with Colonel
John Alexander and Michae Lokeena, who his wife and her
and these two, these two muppets, this lady and this
lady Lilith and John Alexander's wife, they claim to be sisters.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
I found no evidence of such.

Speaker 5 (01:46:59):
But this is the Skinwalker ranch Aviary psychological alien warfare. Nonsense. Hey,
the aliens in Nevada like the eat strawberry ice cream.
Not sure if you're aware of that. That's this guy
and these two paler These guys are like brothers, right,
like brother in laws if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
To their wives.

Speaker 5 (01:47:16):
So therefore we see the epicenter of Satanism and Cargo
Colt style with the temple said if you will there
and his full blown US Army alien business skinwalker, et cetera.

Speaker 7 (01:47:27):
Right, I mean it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
They all fucking know each other, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:47:31):
Right, right, they're all intermarried, they're all related, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
This is the Intelligence Officers Whoop and Intelligence Officers Banquet,
October two thousand and nine. Is he wearing he is wearing? Yeah,
here's the deal, Bud. He does, in fact believe he
is the Duke of Argyle, the rightful Duke plan Campbell.
He claims to be from. I haven't played a game

(01:47:59):
yet with who. We're not sure who his daddy is
and what her right, But according to him, he's a
he's a clam Campbell.

Speaker 7 (01:48:09):
I somehow doubt that. I somehow doubt it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
I mean, here's I had that a lot of things
about that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
I'm gonna need to see some level of evidence that
he passed any sort of physical fitness exam ever, let
alone a US Army Special Forces exam. I assure you, sir,
I've not done the US Army Special Forces exam. I did,
in fact, pass the US Army Ranger Test physical fitness situation.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
And it's not easy. So that my motherfucker, that bass
Or didn't pass anything, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:48:39):
Yeah, yeah, I can. I can confidently say that as well.
I'm sure he did not.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
There's three things in this world.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
I'm certain, and I'm certain there's no way shape or
for him he passed any physical fitness exam little then
the US Army Special Forces training. And I'm also quite
certain that Ted Gunnerson is full of shit. Now, he
may or may not have been shot by lasers.

Speaker 9 (01:49:05):
That's inconclusion, right, there's thousands of Americans out there, by
the way, I've been shot with a laser beat twice.

Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
They got it, They they got them twice, FOLKUS. Now
I imagine the scenario. They're in the intelligence officers banquet
and world there where syr to the mid Ots, where
Ted Gunderson is accompanied by his domestic partner one Diane Haggerty,
co founder of the Church of Satan.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
That's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:49:27):
And uh at that time, at the same time as
that photograph of these other muppets, and and they're just
hanging out with John Alexander. Pardon me, sir, Oh, goodness, gracious,
what's going on right now?

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
Goodness? Pardon me?

Speaker 5 (01:49:42):
And John Alexander, Michael Akino, they're all they are all
the banquet wearing kilts together, dude, probably jamming things up
each other's butts.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
I mean that that is a common thing that they
usually talk about and has been levied against them. So
if they're shoving things of each others, but I would
not be surprised in the least.

Speaker 5 (01:50:04):
You know, Ted made his entire career on investigating things
and then try to tell the world, Oh, I'll help
with the Satanism, so he said, Satanist. We don't hear
about Satanism. Get the fuck out of your Ted.

Speaker 7 (01:50:16):
You know what's interesting about Ted too, because I mean,
my official opinion about Ted is that he was a
genuine like a to B disinformation agent. So the things
go right, right, and so a lot of the things
he said were true but then there were just enough

(01:50:37):
things that were wrong or factually inaccurate that led people astray,
which is the whole point, right, A disinformation agent does
have to spew truth, but just with a little bit
of little bit of a factual inaccuracy. And so there's

(01:50:58):
a lot of things, you know, especially about the Satanism stuff,
that is true. It's crazy you can go through and
a lot of it's true. And you know, I've over
the years, I've used his stuff for some of my research,
you know, obviously with a grain of salt, because well
he's a disinformation agent, but uh, there is a lot

(01:51:19):
of truth in what he says, and it's kind of
just interesting. Like, for instance, the the archaeology report that
the parents of McMartin got. He wasn't involved at all,
but somehow he got word and just showed up that day.
You know, it's just trying to trying to put a

(01:51:40):
lid back on that thing real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
He's shag heart the whole go ahead, I'm cutting out
over here, going sir.

Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
Well, you're you're totally right. Uh, he was just trying
to shitcoat the whole thing, and uh, you know, by
showing up is trying to discredit it. Actually, uh, and
it was incredibly interesting because, I mean he actually failed.
Other other than the fact that people don't know about it,
I mean, you haven't treated.

Speaker 5 (01:52:10):
Any victims Mother's home. Jackie mcgaully violated the ship. I
don't know what he's trying to do her, but Boley
shit ever financially, dude, I've been ever taken by the communists.

Speaker 8 (01:52:22):
My apologies, goet it together, sho go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Way, go home, come pigs. Sorry, I'm late. Who goes there?
Henry Himmler?

Speaker 7 (01:52:51):
What Clavin claimed?

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
California?

Speaker 7 (01:52:53):
Clavin Cucamonga, California. Yeah, I was just passing through town
and uh, looking for something to do this evening. There
was nothing going on at the roadway club.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
I heard about this.

Speaker 7 (01:53:02):
Well, welcome, Henry. I'm the grand legal.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Oh California thing. Pig face scum. Tay Guennerdson is a

(01:53:27):
pig face gum.

Speaker 5 (01:53:28):
So, after Jackie mcgully hires the fucking archaeological team her
and four other parents she from the McMartin victims, he
takes other parents from the victims because he'd infiltrated the scene,
but through Jackie mcgully, so he meets all these other
parents who did not report were not part of the
four parents that hired the team, but their children had

(01:53:49):
been victimized.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
He takes those parents.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
To the scene the day before the archaeological team shows
up to start their dig, and they takes them with
shovels in the l a time.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Right, that's Teed gunders.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:54:06):
It's so obvious, at least in my opinion, it is well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
In hindsight, right, I mean, at least be fair in hindsight.

Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
We have the availability of time information, and we're also
not being currently shot at by lasers.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
It's a different time now.

Speaker 7 (01:54:18):
We have less lasers, right, less lasers, and there's not
one definitely not two.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (01:54:27):
Luckily, I don't know about you, sir, but I maintained
a couple of pairs of my Mormon underwear does protect
you against knife attacks, some nuclear weapons, and indeed lasers.

Speaker 7 (01:54:35):
So I did not know that multiple laser attacks.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:54:41):
Well, I mean, you can, much like any kind of
other armors, only because it's going to sustain so much
damage you're gonna have to replace at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
You should be good with two attacks of lasers.

Speaker 7 (01:54:52):
Amazing. Well, Hey, I I hate to cut it short,
but I do gotta are.

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
You my brain holdser I know your name is JJ
br you a brain hos to say. I appreciate your time, sir.
Let's bring in for Landy. I know you gotta, I
know you gotta go here. I appreciate your time to
of course again for joining the GILW G C D.
And you're gonna be back on Wednesday, along with actually
Cosic Peach as well.

Speaker 7 (01:55:10):
Yes, yes, that's uh, you know you guys are getting
your fill of JJ and JJT dueling.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
JJ's again, dude coming up Wednesday and the next Fridays,
if I'm not mistaking.

Speaker 7 (01:55:22):
Sir, Yes, sir, so I will be back so those
nights I'll be able to hang out as uh as
long as we need for those nights.

Speaker 5 (01:55:33):
And this was your suggestion for this film. And the
Cosmic Peach is also super stoked about it. And it's
the love affair of Michael Myers and his sister, yes.

Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
Which is incredibly weird. That's how the story starts, uh.
You know, Michael Myers murders his sister and uh you
know kind of loses his mind from there and then
you know, becomes the shadow the Boogeyman, you know every
story right, So yes, thank you all, Thank you all

(01:56:06):
for having me back and being being so awesome in
the chat and everything. I always love checking everything out. Also,
I saw Bobo make a comment earlier that communists are
not people, and he is right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
There, actually indeed not people. Don't I miss the comment.
I'm not sure where it is, but I like the comment.

Speaker 7 (01:56:24):
They are government property, not people.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
They are indeed muppets, sir, They're they're all saving the
muppet world.

Speaker 5 (01:56:31):
Speaking of that operation GCD Sundays here nine thirty pm
Meastern Standard Times, six degrees of the processed Church closed.
They told me it closed in nineteen seventy four, sir, we'ren't.
First of all, we're in your forty five plus for
a panic I'm paying right. You can hear more about
that tomorrow night, nine thirty pm Eastern Standard Times. With
the adventures and tales of this fucking muppet Mikey.

Speaker 7 (01:56:54):
I'll make sure be in the chat for that one, Yes, sir, and.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
Uh and and uh of course versus pal laser tag ted.

Speaker 9 (01:57:02):
There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way, I've
been shot with a laser beating twice.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
Watch your six folks, stay vigilant. We'll catch you next time.

Speaker 5 (01:57:11):
Thank you again, sir for joining me giltle GCD, and
thank you folks of the INTERWEBSCD.

Speaker 7 (01:57:18):
Catch me anywhere. Rise to Liberty, Beware of the mocking Bird,
and check out my store, Rise Toliberty dot store. I
got new hoodies, long sleeve shirts and new t shirts.
They have an awesome mind control design, so check those out.

Speaker 5 (01:57:32):
Yes, sir, and I will have your links in the
show notes for folks of the interwebs. Check out and
check out more dueling JJ's coming up soon. Yes, any
closing thoughts, statements, alibis, or baking recipes.

Speaker 7 (01:57:46):
No baking recipes at this time. I've got to find
a good one. But just be on the lookout for
this stuff because we literally live in the disinformation age,
the post truth era. We are literally in fifth generation
warfare and they are trying to take all of us down.
So just be on the lookout for all of these tactics.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:58:05):
You know, people like yes, sir, me and other JJ
and plenty of other great people are trying to expose
these things to make out harder for them to be
able to do this, So make sure and soak up
the good information why.

Speaker 5 (01:58:18):
You can, yes sir, being a lookout for those tactics
and be on the lookout for lasers.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
They got ted twice. Folks, stay vgelant you always. You

(01:59:00):
are the movie made.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Take your chances were on bo say you are stand you, you.

Speaker 4 (01:59:10):
Are nothing but the wear.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Shag yourself, your people you made speaking boots up brock boots.

Speaker 4 (01:59:38):
Say, do not chance it. You've been.

Speaker 10 (01:59:49):
Scott Do.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
You lose yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
Not the bag say there's nothing reason to.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Gave everywhere a chance.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
Your te

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