October 29, 2025 • 46 mins
The lights are out, the questions are loud, and we’re diving headfirst into the most unsettling corner of the paranormal: alien abductions. From missing hours on lonely highways to secret tapes and shared memories under hypnosis, we trace the stories that shaped modern UFO lore—and the older clues hiding in plain sight. Why do classical paintings show figures pointing at strange objects in the sky? How did a small New England drive turn into the blueprint for abduction claims worldwide? And what happens when multiple witnesses, decades apart, describe the same rooms, the same beings, and the same electric hush?
We unpack the landmark cases—Betty and Barney Hill, the Allagash Incident, Travis Walton, and Pascagoula—looking for the common threads and the parts that refuse to fit. Then the theories collide. Are the grays extraterrestrials with cold bedside manner, or are they us from a sun-starved future, slipping through wormholes to reclaim what our genome lost? If sightings moved from skies to seas, are underwater craft hiding where our sensors fall short? And where do ancient sites, ley lines, and the “portal” idea fit when cultures across continents carve the same shapes into stone?
As the conversation opens up, so does the tech. We talk about pilot-reported UAPs, the slow thaw of government secrecy, and the unnerving overlap between rapid advances in AI and long-running whispers of “borrowed” science. The ethics stay front and center: even with the most generous motives, abduction is a violation; trauma demands respect. Still, curiosity pulls at the thread—because if visitors are here, whether from distant stars or a timeline not yet lived, understanding what they want might be the most human thing we can do.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
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SPEAKER_00 (00:15):
Yes.
Yes.
Welcome.
Yes.
Ah, ah, ah, ah.
SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
So we're here to continue on our Halloween theme
for the month.
Yes.
I thought that I thought that,you know, abductions was a good
one.
SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Yes.
So we had touched on this oncebefore.
Right.
Right.
So then it is cool because it isthat spooky, that eerie.
It is.
It is spooky, man.
Of of uh things that well,people being abducted, alien
stuff.
If it happens on Halloween.
Well, so now.
So I'm gonna tell you we look athow far back that it that
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aliens, supposed aliens, havebeen on coming to visit us and
the uh what's called there yougo.
That's what I'm talking about.
Fucking A, bro.
Holy shit.
You know?
Oh yeah.
And we have our our guest againtoday.
Mom's protege.
Yes, yes, yes.
Chilling with us.
Yep.
His eyes are open, he's inthere.
Isn't he handsome?
It'd be fucking great if youcould talk.
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But yeah, so you know, how farback that we really look at
alien abductions, alienvisitation.
Well, they go as far well, I'msure they go back even farther
than we have recorded.
SPEAKER_01 (01:24):
Right, exactly.
Yes.
But from what we know, I thinkit's like the probably from the
30s up, possibly.
The abductions.
Okay.
Not abductions, but how aliensightings and things like that.
Again, that but abductions maybelater on.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (01:37):
But maybe earlier, because like you just said, it
could have been early in timethat we don't even know about.
Because we look at what all ofthe of tribes is what I'm going
to call them around the planetthat have always called them
gods.
You know what I mean?
So then, you know, how far back?
We look at, well, we now, if welook at some of I don't know if
I ever said this to you, some ofDa Vinci's drawings, his
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paintings, Van Gogh and stuff.
If you look in the background,there are usually people in the
background that are looking andpointing up to something that he
drew up in the top.
So it's not like just a bird,it's like some spot, some
different type of figure.
Some disc or something likethat.
Like, you know, some flyingobject is up in a lot of you
know of their paintings andstuff like that.
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So, you know, again, like yousaid, that's before the 30s, you
know, before the 30s and 40s,because like what was it?
It's now this one I know I'veI've heard this a whole bunch of
times in 61.
Barney and Betty Hill, that wasthe couple that they were
driving on the road, right?
And they lost, what is it, howmany hours of we wouldn't have
an exact number, but like two orthree hours of their time that
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they lost.
You know, driving back to thecity.
Two hours missing, two hoursmissing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:43):
From memory, Betty Betty's dress was torn and
stained.
Yep.
And Barney's shoes were scuffedunder hypnosis, both describe
being taken aboard a craft,examined by small gray beings,
and some shown start map thatmatched the Zella Reticule
system.
I'm probably not pronouncing itcorrectly.
The a constellation unknown tothem at that time.
(03:06):
Right.
Or the time.
So then now you I mean, thinkabout it, bro.
That's crazy, man.
You that you first no, youfirst, you first I heard a
thing.
I was watching something wherethey said that grays, which are
actually the taller ones.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
Right?
Are well they can continue togrow, I think is what happens
with them, if I'm not mistaken.
Something weird happens.
Right.
Are supposed to be us aftertime, we progress to that.
And now we're coming back to tryto fix whatever it is that they
effed up on.
Yeah.
But from what I understand, theydon't have the same compassion
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or sense to the point where theyhave no if they hurt you or
whatever, you don't give fucked.
Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:50):
Yeah, you know, just enough to keep you hypnotized if
you will.
Yeah.
Kind of some kind of submissive.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and that's what I'm saying.
So that again, so are aliensreally visitors from another
planet?
Are they just us in the futuretime traveling?
You know what I mean?
So it's us on another planetthat are trying time traveling
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back to get us.
Or portaling through somehow.
So that now that was um uh I'mglad you brought that part up.
So what I've like said.
SPEAKER_01 (04:19):
Because it's impossible to get moved that
fast, even that fast, if youcan, you gotta be able to open
something up and go through andend up someplace else.
SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
Right, right.
Yeah.
So however it is, whatever liketime travel or or wormhole or
whatever it is that they have,is that they're getting here.
So now, the other thing that Ihad heard in uh another show
that I was watching, I'm youknow, again, between ghost
hunters or ghost hunting showsand and the alien shows, bro,
listen, it's it's insane.
(04:49):
I get it.
So that one of the conversationsthat I heard was that you don't
hear about as many abductionsanymore because we are not of as
strong, I guess our genes, youknow, or our immune systems and
stuff like that aren't as strongnow in like say like the 2000s
(05:14):
as they were back in the day,you know, when we were 30s, 40s,
even back to, you know, whatevertribes are running around on the
planet and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01 (05:25):
70s and 80s we were.
SPEAKER_00 (05:26):
Right, right.
But I'm just saying, like theseare things like you know, we've
not we don't want to.
Right.
But I'm just saying, like wedon't have like now it's almost
like we're tainted.
We're not as pure, if you will,as we used for whatever it is
that they're looking for.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:41):
You know what I mean?
Right.
So that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
Maybe they're missing a I think I saw
something on that where they saythere's a genome that they're
missing that they need.
Right.
We're not at that level yetwhere they can use it because
we're too still not not evolvedenough enough or something for
that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:55):
That's what I'm saying.
It's that then, you know, wethey didn't find it in the old
ones, so right now they seem tobe taking a pause, and then
they'll be back, you know, yeah.
They keep checking on 30, 40years.
SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
And if they're doing that, it's not because they're
traveling.
There's no way.
I just can't believe thatanymore.
It has to be something else.
Because they're saying that nowthat wormholes may exist, and if
they do, it's actually what'sholding the galaxy, the fabric
of space together, I should say.
SPEAKER_00 (06:19):
Well, but then why wouldn't it be logical for them
to travel back and forth?
SPEAKER_01 (06:22):
Only because But if they're using those kind of
things, then that's more like aportal in this sense.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and but then don't forget,people still see people still
see the the UFOs.
They see the underwater ones,they see, you know, all the
other things that are happening,so that then it's still
plausible that they might justbe here on the planet.
Right.
You know, that they're livingliving in that deepest depths in
the of the oceans and the seasand you know, and and all these
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other things.
So you never know.
They could be water thing iscool too, because you they they
gotta be under there, man.
I mean, it's just it makessense.
Especially if you're seeing moreso now, you know what I mean?
Well, think about how we turnaround and us as humans, how we
sit in space, you know, we haveour astronauts and they're in
space for six months at a time.
You know what I'm saying?
(07:11):
It's crazy.
So then why wouldn't aliens, youknow, these alien figures that
they wouldn't be coming in andthey're doing six months at a
time, you know, a year at a timebeing here.
That's their mission.
I don't even know if they evenYeah, I see what you're saying
for a certain amount of time.
Right, and then they go back andthen they send the next, you
know, the next shift, you know,over.
What happened, bro?
I'm just checking out.
SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
Yo, you just look at that.
SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
He didn't go nowhere, he didn't move, you
know.
But yeah, and you know, so andthen what's the other one?
The Alagash.
Four college student friends,four college friends went
camping in Maine and saw astrange glowing object over the
lake.
They signaled it with aflashlight, and it's sudden,
then suddenly the light movedtoward them.
The men woke up later at theircampsite, unable to remember
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what happened.
Years later, under hypnosis,they all described being taken
aboard a craft and examined bybeings with large heads, black
big black eyes, and theirstories all match almost
perfectly.
Perfectly.
SPEAKER_02 (08:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:07):
And that was decades later.
You know what I'm saying?
So they're hypnotized, you know,to try to get to block out
whatever it is.
SPEAKER_01 (08:14):
Whatever it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
Because then this because they don't even know.
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
I'm just saying.
And do you think it's the samething we were talking about in
reference to the episode we didwhere we talked about hauntings
where they said that the the uhentity is somehow singling you
out because of the vibe that yougive off or something you file
like do the aliens or they justrandom, you think, and just do
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what they want because theydon't care.
SPEAKER_00 (08:44):
That's a hard one.
SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
What do you think?
Maybe both.
SPEAKER_00 (08:47):
Yeah, maybe both.
Because I mean, if you thinkabout where people see and or
have heard, like people that saythat they know that they uh my
grandmother used to, you know,she felt when a ghost was
around.
You know, my great-grandmother,my great-great-great, my
great-great-grandfather, mythis, my third, all those
ancestors that you know wereshamans or they were the priests
of the village or whatever thecase may be.
(09:10):
Yes, my lineage is this and thethird for yada yada religions or
whatever the case may be.
Maybe that the aliens arefollowing that line, that
bloodline.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Never know.
Because again, if it's what I'msaying, and then, you know,
about them looking for thepurest gene code that then that
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would, you know, that they'retrying to find or follow a
particular gene code, you know,that's their study.
That's what they're thinking,that's what it is.
Ten generations of thisparticular gene.
We have to wait, they're notready yet.
Yeah, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (09:44):
Yeah, which is kind of weird.
It is that's really what'shappening, you know.
That's that's kind of strange.
Yeah, I mean, again, no.
I I think I think definitelythere's this other life in other
places.
It's just a matter of theproblem is getting there.
So, but yes, I do believe thereare other other uh living forms
of life.
SPEAKER_00 (10:04):
So dig it.
They say that we don't know,well, we don't we don't see,
can't see from right heresitting outside looking out.
We can't see the back the darkside of the moon.
No.
So that then, of course,conversations between movies,
you know, all the time.
Behind there and all that.
It's on the dark side of themoon.
Right.
You know what I mean?
There are places on Mars thatthey say, oh, that looks like
that was, you know, a particularuh you know, certain formation
(10:28):
or all that a pyramid, you know,a fissure that just seems super
huge.
You know what I mean?
Maybe they've been here, maybethey were here, maybe they are
here, you know?
There's always still left.
Exactly.
And they never left, bro.
How many movies haven't we seenwhere the aliens are still here?
Right.
We go way back in the day, youhad V.
(10:48):
And that they were the ones thatthey had.
The original show on TV.
Yep.
So V was a show where the alienswere like lizards, like they had
like a lizard skin.
And eventually had sex with oneof our own.
And then that was the mixed.
And the lizard baby came bornout.
Yeah, and then that turned intoa whole other.
That was the next three seasonsafter that.
Yeah.
But that they were wearing humanface masks, not human skin.
(11:11):
It was like they had the mask,you know, they look real enough.
And they looked real enough thatpeople didn't know until they
kind of started to talk to them,and it was like a nerd kind of
guy, not a nerd, like just asuper straight and narrow guy.
Like, no, we do not understandwhat you mean.
And then they would like youwould see their eyes like have
the lizard.
SPEAKER_01 (11:27):
They knew they were aliens, but they didn't know
they were they were lizards.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:30):
Yeah.
They thought they were just fromanother country, not from
another planet or anotherwhatever.
Wherever.
You know, then you had there wasa movie called Them with Ron uh
Roddy Roddy Piper that you putin the city.
SPEAKER_01 (11:39):
That was great with the glasses.
Yeah.
And it and you could see what'sactually being on.
The signs have uh and all themessages and things that you
don't see because it'ssubliminal.
SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
Right.
So then now you just think aboutlike they say, there's always
not always, but that was great.
That one to me was like to me,that was like, that's kind of
how it would probably happen.
But then now, how many aliensare really here?
Now we fast forward 50 years andwe got men in black.
Right.
So now you have men in blackwhere there's actually you know
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secret government office hiddensomewhere in the bottom of the
city somewhere.
It's actually in all over.
They had stations, you know, orprecincts, whatever you want to
call them, over a whole planet.
And on the moon.
unknown (12:26):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (12:27):
So that then now here it is, you know.
What if that's real?
You know, how many people don'thow many times don't we see
those?
SPEAKER_01 (12:33):
I'm sure there's something going on right there.
SPEAKER_00 (12:35):
Yeah.
So I mean, you know, I meannothing you needed to know
about.
Well, I you know, but now here'sthe next question, real quick.
Would you be comfortable inknowing?
Do you think that our societywould be comfortable in knowing,
be okay with that?
Or do you think that you shouldkeep it secret?
SPEAKER_01 (12:54):
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
I just think it's right now,it's not Not yet.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (12:59):
Okay.
unknown (13:00):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (13:00):
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's not saying that.
I'm not saying that theyshouldn't know.
Of course we should know.
That goes without saying.
SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Absolutely.
Yeah, because I would love to beable to speak to an alien.
It's not even a matter if I wantto meet them or anything, but I
would like to know.
SPEAKER_00 (13:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:13):
Hey, this is what's going on.
They may have been here.
I want to actually this, that,and the other thing.
SPEAKER_00 (13:18):
I want to have a conversation, see what the
universe is like.
Like, what's it out?
Because I mean, you know, again,we here here that aren't, those
of us that aren't astronauts,you know, oh, it's so dark up
there, you know, it's vastspace.
Like, you know, you thinkbecause you see the moon that
it's like, you know, you know, a10-hour ride.
In actuality, it's like a dayride, you know what I'm saying?
(13:40):
Or two-day ride straight.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Going to Mars is, you know,longer and Pluto.
Like, right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:49):
Or something like that.
SPEAKER_00 (13:49):
So I would like to know how do they feel that long
ass trip to get here, and nowthey're here.
You know, do they want to gohome?
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (13:58):
Yeah, but again, I think the technology is so well
advanced now, is they're they'reable to go in and out of time
quickly.
Right.
But even though they could stillmove at very fast speeds.
They've shown that when they'vehad it on video.
SPEAKER_00 (14:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (14:11):
You know, like super fast.
SPEAKER_00 (14:13):
I I think I'm going in and out of water and Yeah.
But I mean, I think I'm justcurious to know what their life
was like on their planet, youknow, to know how they feel
making that long ash, you know,uh mission, that crazy travel
that they're here and they'resettling down and, you know,
whether they're excuse me,they're living underwater or
they're just mixed up in herewith us.
(14:35):
If it's just like, you know, abunch of Chewbaccas that are
fucking Bigfoot, you know what Imean?
And they're just dipping in andout of uh time.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Hitting that little dimensionalwormhole.
How many things haven't we seenwhere they show, well, because
only such nerds, man.
Yeah, I know, right?
You know, look at what they saythat aliens have built in
(14:55):
ancient history, in our ancienthistory.
And it's all what we're gonnafirst assume to be a religious
building, but then the dooropens up and there's another
door or a wall.
You know, that there's when theycome in here and they're doing
electromagnetic readings, thatit's you know, right, there's
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something that should be here.
Like this, there's nothing elsegoing on here in the middle of
this desert, but we're gettingthese crazy readings off of the
buildings.
You know what I mean?
Right.
That's like, what the hell?
Why is that?
Right.
You know what I mean?
Some kind of energy is surgingfrom it.
You know, and then now, my nextquestion what's the di is there
a difference between the well, II guess I know that there's
(15:37):
differences, but the aliens thatwant to help us.
I'm sure there's good and bad.
Or that they just want to ruleus.
Who knows?
You know what I mean?
You know, like they whathappened to some of our other
civilizations?
SPEAKER_01 (15:51):
The thing I saw on one of the things on TV that we
watch, sci-fi or whatever it is,and the story was is that the
aliens met up with the leadersof the world back in the fifties
or something.
Right.
I suppose Eisenhower or Right.
Anyway.
The story is in short, ofcourse, I don't know word for
word, but they gave him twochoices.
(16:13):
I guess one was the right way togo or not do a certain thing and
continue doing what you're doingnow.
Like maybe have peace and thenthey chose not to go the other
the right way.
They went the other way.
SPEAKER_00 (16:30):
The the humans.
SPEAKER_01 (16:31):
Uh humans, supposedly.
SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
Right.
So now how many times has tolook that up so I know exactly.
But still, how many times howmany times has that conversation
been had?
Because now we look at so if welook at what I would say would
be evidence of lostcivilizations.
So was it that the aliens werehere, they gave humankind that
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were here on earth ultimatums,like do this or we're gonna
destroy you.
Like maybe that's really thebiblical stories that we heard,
you know, all the religions, andthat was the main story because
had we just all of a sudden hadthat ice age, you know.
Right.
We all of a sudden had thatsuper flood, you know.
We all of a sudden had, youknow, we didn't have the fire
yet.
(17:14):
But, you know, all these things.
Well, in LA.
No, no, no, like the floods orthe fires to to just wipe out
everything on the planet.
God's no, it's just horrible.
Right, but it'll be the samething as the flood, you know,
like Noah's Ark.
You know what I'm saying?
They say if it's gonna happenagain, it's gonna be fire this
time.
SPEAKER_01 (17:31):
Isn't it?
Isn't it the next one?
It's gonna be something comingfrom space.
It's just gonna plow into thefucking planet and it's gonna
take everything out.
SPEAKER_00 (17:37):
Just like it did the dinosaur.
Right.
So they then they just turn itout.
SPEAKER_01 (17:40):
That's why they're doing all the technology now, so
they can see which one they needsome knock out of orbit.
It's dark.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
They can't see shit.
You know what I mean?
Technically, they can't seeevery single one, bro.
They can not every single one.
Well, so that now I that's whatit's like.
SPEAKER_01 (17:52):
It's all the ones they then the ones that are
necessary to see.
It depends on what track theyare and if they've been around
before.
So you sometimes they get closeror closer.
Right.
Like City's comic.
Right.
It just comes back.
You want to make sure it doesn'tcome back and come that close.
Or right, or hit you want it toleave again and go back.
So somehow, if they knock it offits orbit, they're able to land
(18:14):
on a fucking now.
Right.
And then, you know, push it,make it go in a different
direction.
They've proved that already, sowhich is good news.
Yeah.
Right.
So they're doing that.
So But they have to monitor theskies all the time.
SPEAKER_02 (18:28):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (18:29):
They have to watch which ones they and they do.
They map it out and they get nowwith AI and everything, they
could Well, so now we're gonnasay that that's not alien
driven.
SPEAKER_00 (18:40):
That it's not the aliens that are driven.
SPEAKER_01 (18:42):
No, that's just more protecting the planet from
destruction.
SPEAKER_00 (18:46):
But I'm saying that the that the that's the same.
New species begins.
Yeah, I know, right?
I'm saying that the that it'snot the aliens that are aiming
that meteors.
SPEAKER_01 (18:55):
No, no, no, no.
I don't think so.
No, not at all.
I think it's just the way spaceis, and you know.
Yeah.
You know, when they say theplanets hit more than once.
Yeah.
But the really big one is theone that destroyed.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (19:08):
But that was the and that's what like Ice Age and and
how many miles?
It was so many miles long.
This thing was huge.
Yeah.
And that that's what hit theplanet, and then that's what
wiped it out.
Because think about it.
All the things that they'vefound rock and fire.
Think of fire, bro.
I mean, this thing.
All the stuff that we hadarchaeologists are still finding
(19:29):
things.
Archaeologists are still findinglike whole villages.
You know what I'm saying?
They're finding that I think wehave said it before too.
They were in Antarctica and theythey were coring out the ice,
and they went down like almost amile or a little bit more than a
mile, and they came up withfern, bro.
(19:49):
It was ferns that were in the atthe bottom of the ice.
Ferns are tropical plants, andthey found it in the ice.
Right.
You know?
The the Because it just shiftedeverything around.
So that then it was that flashfreeze.
Well, the we've gone throughseveral ice chains.
SPEAKER_01 (20:04):
Yes, exactly.
But there's been like one thatwas real supposed to be real.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
Well, the latest one that we would be able to see and
tell.
Could happen again.
Exactamundo.
Could happen again.
And and and like I said, is itthings that happening?
Well, that would suck balls.
But now, is it things that thealiens are trying to warn us
about?
SPEAKER_01 (20:23):
Oh, so as far as the alien thing, I don't know.
You know what I mean?
But as far as aliens concerned,I I kind of see it more as if I
feel like we are being watchedin a sense and they're just in
the shadows.
Mm-hmm.
And if they do already know thatthey're here and they're dealing
with them, we're still fuckinghere.
So Yeah.
We gotta hope that stays thecase.
You know what I mean?
(20:44):
I don't know how that works orif even it's if it's really
happening.
You know, it's just it's crazyto think about.
But who's to say it can't,especially now that we're
getting more advanced?
We got AI now.
Right.
Yeah.
But then it just keeps gettingbetter and better and better,
and it's just Well, who'scontrolling the AI?
Well, I'm not talking aboutthat.
I'm talking about it's just faras not I'm talking about AI in
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general as far as how smart it'sgonna be.
SPEAKER_00 (21:09):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:10):
It's just gonna be ridiculous.
It's already showing that nowwhen it comes to certain things.
So that's what I'm saying.
But yeah, whoever is controllinga certain one, you want to be
aware of that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:19):
So that's what I'm saying.
So then is the AI with how fast.
SPEAKER_01 (21:24):
I'm just talking about the the necessary what AI
can do now as far as technologyis concerned, what it can do for
you.
Medicine, everything it can do,positive things.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (21:34):
So for me, right, with the AI is that if it's
alien driven, I mean thatthey're the one that gave the
technology, they could basicallyprogram it to say whatever it is
that they want church to do.
Could that I could that's alittle That's a little bit more
out there, but you know, it'sstill I said that's that, you
know, again, that alien thing.
You know, if we just said thatmovie them, that it was all that
(21:56):
subliminal stuff that peoplecouldn't see unless they had on
the sunglasses.
As soon as they saw that nowthey then it was like they were
snapping out of it.
Right.
So that then what if that's whatAI is setting that up to be?
You know what I mean?
Don't know.
And like I said, again, alienabductions.
Were they just taking us to turnaround and just to study us?
(22:18):
You know?
Is it to get us ready forwhatever they're planning?
Well at least it's not likePredator.
That could be really bad.
God, bro, because oh my god.
SPEAKER_01 (22:26):
So imagine that.
SPEAKER_00 (22:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:27):
Aliens coming down, but what game now?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:30):
Just taking us out.
Yeah.
Well, they had the one movie,Predators, where they were
taking the people from the earthfrom different planets, but they
had the earth people.
Right, I like that one.
Yeah, and they took them to aplanet that was just strictly
for hunting whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (22:44):
Now they got a new one coming out now.
SPEAKER_00 (22:46):
Yeah.
You told me there was the one onthe series.
SPEAKER_01 (22:49):
Aliens was the series.
Or Alien Earth.
Alien Earth.
SPEAKER_00 (22:52):
Oh, yes.
That's really good.
SPEAKER_01 (22:54):
Yes.
But the one that there's anotherone that came out with a
predator, and this woman playsthis android of some sort, and
she tries to get through to thisthing to like, hey, we need to
work together to get to beatthis thing.
Supposedly, there's a creatureon the planet they can't beat.
Like it's like unbeatable.
SPEAKER_00 (23:13):
And there's and and there's a cartoon too of
Predators with the Predatorthing.
Really?
So I want to see the one you'retalking about.
SPEAKER_01 (23:19):
I want to see the cartoon one to that's right,
because it's on uh I think it'son Disney, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00 (23:23):
Ooh, Hulu.
SPEAKER_01 (23:24):
I thought it was peak.
SPEAKER_00 (23:25):
I thought it was um prime.
SPEAKER_01 (23:28):
I think it might be.
SPEAKER_00 (23:29):
Well, either way, we'll have to dig it out and
look at it.
Hulu, it might be on Hulu.
But that's us, you know, goingback and forth.
SPEAKER_01 (23:33):
But But Yeah, that kind of stuff we should be
thankful of.
SPEAKER_00 (23:37):
Not that we didn't say is happening, but what's to
say that that's not what theywhat the the pred the alien
abductions have been?
Because there are people thathaven't even come back that they
can't find anymore.
There are people that have beentaken for a couple of years and
then shown up in another part ofthe world.
SPEAKER_01 (23:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (23:54):
You know what I'm saying?
So what if the alien abductionsare more to predator?
You know what I'm saying?
Well they say the cow when theymutilate a cow or they bend down
to chupacabra.
SPEAKER_01 (24:08):
It's alien.
Right.
Usually.
Yeah.
Because of something.
And supposedly it may have evenhappened to people.
Supposedly certain stories.
Right, yeah.
But you know, these two guyswere together and one of his
friends got off walked off onday I don't forget remember
where they were.
Supposedly went over a mountain,some type, and then this UFO
(24:29):
picked him up and mutilated him.
Yep.
Supposedly.
Right.
And I may not have all the factscorrectly.
Yeah, I think I remember hearingsome of the things.
I was watching it on one of thethings.
I'm like, this is crazy, man.
SPEAKER_00 (24:40):
Bro, what about that the close encounters of the
fourth kind?
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Well, that was a great movie, man, by the way.
And but they put the realfootage on next to it, which
blew my freaking mind.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
Exactly.
That a whole town was havingbasically the same freaking
dreams, bro.
You know, well, I'm gonna sayquote unquote the dreams.
They all had the same storiesabout what it was with the
kicking them up out of thehouse.
The cop was standing there withthe city.
(25:13):
Like fuzzes out, and then he'sstill.
But you could see it pulling outof the house at first, and then
next thing you know, it's itjust like fuzzed out.
You could see it coming intoscreenshot.
And that was official likecopyright.
That's almost like Star Trek.
Yeah, bro.
That's what I'm telling you,man.
It's it's it's crazy, it'sinsane because here's a town
(25:34):
that these people were were sothe way it goes that they were
all abducted, but the whole townwas scared of these alien
abductions happening.
SPEAKER_01 (25:46):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:46):
You know what I'm saying?
We don't always hear aboutpeople that survived it.
You know what I mean?
People are too scared to comeout and speak on it.
You know what I mean?
I would probably be a littlenervous about it too, man.
Because then some people wouldjust be like, yo, you guys are
freaking crazy.
You don't know what you'retalking about, you're freaks,
you're freaks.
Meanwhile, it was something thatreally happened to me.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
You know, somebody they had an experience that they
can't explain and they didn't,you know.
And it's under hypnosis thatthey're telling these stories.
Right.
So, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:13):
So it's allowing the brain to open up and for you to
and there can't be that manypeople that are being hypnotized
that are coming up with the samefreaking story.
Right.
You know what I mean?
That's that's it can't be.
There's not that area.
No, no, there it's definitelysomething going on, man.
For sure.
Right, right, right.
That's why I'm like, man,listen, though, that shit is
(26:35):
ridiculous.
No, that's ridiculous.
Yeah.
What was the other one to do?
Oh, there's some Travis Travis.
SPEAKER_01 (26:40):
Travis Walton.
Incident, 1975, Arizona.
So the ones we have on here are,but we, you know, there's plenty
out there we could pick from.
I thought these because theywere early, you know?
Travis Walton, since uh 1975,Arizona, while working with
logging crew, Travis Walton sawa glowing stick in the woods.
He said toward it and wasblasted by a blue beam.
(27:01):
His coworkers fled thinking hewas dead.
Travis vanished for five days,only to reappear disorientated,
near a highway.
He later recalling recalledbeing inside a spacecraft
surrounded by non-human beings.
His case inspired the movie Firein the Sky.
And to this day, he stands byhis story.
(27:22):
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (27:22):
Did you ever see Fire in the Sky?
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
I think I saw that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:25):
I remember he was with his friends where they were
working or something.
And then Yeah, I only saw likeparts of it.
I didn't get to see the wholething.
But that movie was kind ofspooky, bro.
It was.
That movie was spooky.
SPEAKER_01 (27:37):
Encounters of the fourth kind.
That was spooky.
SPEAKER_00 (27:39):
Oh, that was, yeah, but that was like.
That scared the shit out of me.
Yeah, that was like spooky.
SPEAKER_01 (27:42):
But yeah, this was spooky too.
Yeah.
Because of the way the story,because he comes back five days
later, like Jesus?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Wasn't it supposed to be three?
SPEAKER_00 (27:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
Like that would have freaked meout.
Like if you came back five dayslater, I was like, where the
fuck were you?
Yeah.
But that's a few people.
There was another one I saw.
Matter of fact, not two, I sawit a couple of weeks ago, that
it was one guy that wasabducted, came back like ten
years later in Europe, orsomething like that.
Like he was on that side of theplanet.
And it's like, how the hell didhe get all the way over there?
SPEAKER_01 (28:13):
I don't know.
That's so weird.
SPEAKER_00 (28:14):
Ten years later, nobody's seen him and he didn't
even know where he was.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (28:18):
He just happened to be where he was, and it was
like, How the hell did I justget here?
And didn't live anywhere.
People over there didn't knowhim.
Like it's not like they saw himfor 10 years.
He just happened to be show upin the fucking middle of like a
you know a period or whatever itwas.
They're like, how the hell didthat happen?
You know?
(28:38):
And then to find out what wasdone or not done to him, like
they don't even remember photos.
You know, a lot of them rememberthat they were being, you know,
examined, but they don't evenknow where they were being
examined or anything like that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:52):
It's like a fog almost.
SPEAKER_00 (28:54):
Right, yeah.
You know, and it's like, whatthe hell?
Yeah, that's why it's insane.
Remember that move that themovie um Stargate?
Right.
So that then Stargate, soStargate was going back a little
bit, is what we talked aboutbefore.
And those gates come into play.
Remember because they have morethan they're all over the place.
And they're all over, but thenthey are because they look at
(29:14):
all these places.
So they call them the the waylines that cross around the
whole planet.
And where those way lines are islike where Stonehenges and the
pyramids are and how they lineup or whatever, like in their
spaces.
And these are supposed to behigh energy, high concentrated
energy spots, and that there'sthe belief has still been that
(29:35):
these are ways that the aliensthat or the gods that were here,
which we believe are aliens,they were transporting between
all these different places.
Right.
Or teleporting, whatever youwant to call it.
But that's how they got aroundso quick and whatnot to home
planets and whatever else.
So then you find all thesetexts, these drawings, the the
(29:57):
hieroglyphics and stuff that areshowing.
You know, people that are.
It's not just in one side of theplanet, they're all over the
place.
Different pyramids, differentSouth America, North America,
you know, Alaska, Antarctica,Russia, Egypt, you know, Egypt,
you know, Europe, Australia.
All over, man.
All the continents on theplanet.
And you're like, damn, thepeople weren't even traveling
(30:20):
like that to be able to, orstaying long enough in any one
place to be able to, at thattime when they when they you
know try to date when thesethings were drawn, people
weren't even able to get backand forth like that.
You know what I'm saying?
But then again, here's what Iasked before.
Is it that we had civilizationwhere there was actual written
(30:43):
civilization where we peoplewere actually talking, you know,
like Atlantis kind of stuff, andthen these crazy, I guess we'll
say, natural disasters happenedand then wiped everybody out,
and we basically had to startover again.
Was it that the aliens turnedaround and, you know, they did
something to start us over?
SPEAKER_01 (31:00):
Wow, that's super conspiracy theory right there.
SPEAKER_00 (31:02):
But then these are things though, that like I said,
these are conversations thatI've watched and heard on some
of the aliens.
Like UFO.
SPEAKER_01 (31:09):
I believe in, yeah, like I said, I, you know, I I
don't get that's it just seemsto me it's more when you do
that.
It's like like you're like uhalmost like you're afraid of
something like that happening.
Like you think, well, if theycome, are they the ones actually
doing this, and this is why wedo A B C and D.
I don't think I don't know.
I can't say.
Do you think this some outerpower has the control to
(31:31):
navigate what we're doing?
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
Well, bec that's again, so now we go by your
first what you said first andsaying that the aliens are us.
SPEAKER_01 (31:42):
Well, that's the rumor or the you know, the
theory that we've come back, soand now we're grays, and we're,
you know, we've So now you knowto avoid us being grays, then
now they're coming back to tellus don't do these things.
SPEAKER_00 (31:57):
You know what I'm saying?
Don't don't don't don't fallinto what we did.
They're trying to change theirhistory.
I would hope so.
SPEAKER_01 (32:04):
I hope it wouldn't be bad like you were mentioning
before.
SPEAKER_00 (32:08):
Because think of what they're looking like.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So here we are and we look likewe look like, you know.
Now they say that for thebiggest thing.
SPEAKER_01 (32:15):
But if they don't already care, you know, by the
way they their demeanor is, howcan they do you know, do you
think they can be able to uhBecause now it's their survival.
SPEAKER_00 (32:25):
Think about it.
If you're in a situation whereyou need to look out for you,
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (32:28):
So you're saying they're coming back to try to
think them to tell us not to dothese certain things, make sure
you're taking care of this andyou're going this direction.
Don't go this way.
Yes.
And then you'll end up the way.
SPEAKER_00 (32:40):
Or you'll end up looking like us.
You know what I'm saying?
But who's to say that's notevolution?
Again.
So then what happened on theplanet?
So if we go by animals, right?
Animals that have those big kindof eyes, that's because it's
dark.
Right.
So they have to have those kindof eyes so they can see in the
dark.
Right.
So that then if these grays arecoming back, they're gray.
(33:01):
Well, bats don't have big eyeslike that.
Some they have sonar, butthey're blind.
SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Right.
That's true.
SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
So they use so.
SPEAKER_01 (33:07):
Yeah, but you do have fruit bats, though.
SPEAKER_00 (33:08):
Yeah.
So then that's what that is.
So now they're gray.
So that means no sunlight.
So they're not getting the thevitamin C, vitamin D, whatever.
So there.
So that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
Pigment is really uh Right.
SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
So now they're like pale and whatnot because now
they their evolution is what itis that we've done now.
So whether it was like a nuclearstorm that just went away.
SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
I'll tell you.
You know what I'm saying?
Something that fucking stupid,man.
Look at Matrix.
The movie Matrix.
SPEAKER_00 (33:35):
So everybody's living underground.
So you think the aliens arecoming to to warn us?
That's what one of the theoriesis.
Okay.
That the aliens are coming back.
So they're us and they're comingback to warrant us or try to fix
whatever genealogy.
Like in sense of what to eat,not eat, don't do it right.
But don't put this in there,don't you?
SPEAKER_01 (33:53):
Don't file these politics, that, the other thing.
SPEAKER_00 (33:56):
Like it you're saying everything up off the,
you know.
I'm not gonna say everything,but because we know that I'm
sorry, we don't know.
We're assuming that governmentagencies around.
SPEAKER_01 (34:06):
You can believe it, but doesn't make it true.
SPEAKER_00 (34:08):
Right.
So then they believe there it'ssaid that they have the
communication with the aliens.
So that then now, if that's thecase, they already know what's
supposed to be happening in thefuture.
So then they're letting thealiens come back.
It's a lot of what ifs.
Oh, yeah.
It's all day what if.
You know, but again, it's it'sthe what ifs and how much of it
(34:30):
is true.
Because if we literally say allof these things together, it
makes sense.
It's a whole story.
So they're here for one thing.
SPEAKER_02 (34:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (34:37):
They're us coming from either another planet or
another time to try to fix andand and and I guess we'll say uh
use us as the guinea pigs toturn around and fix, change up
what's going to happen, whatcould happen in the next 300
years if we go back, you know,go that far forward.
SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (35:01):
So then it's, you know, to change us.
Whether it's to change us, youknow.
SPEAKER_01 (35:06):
Possible.
Possible.
I don't look at it that way,though.
I I see it differently.
I see it more where hopefullyget to a point where, you know,
everything gets more, you know,we get out of our own way and we
actually progress.
And, you know.
I would love that.
Medicine and people are gettingable to live and you know, and
move on with technology, youknow, as far as uh energy is
(35:29):
concerned.
And you know what I mean?
Like going the right direction.
SPEAKER_00 (35:32):
Well, think of how far we're gonna be able to do
that.
SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
But as far as built but as far as the future way,
you know, you picture it in yourhead, you know, you say, you
know, like when you see it,you're like, you know, where
it's just everything's so cleanand crisp, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:45):
Well, think of what technology has looked like for
us in like the last hundredyears.
You know what I mean?
We basically went from horsesand you know, and carriages to
now electric vehicles.
You know what I'm saying?
We look at just listening thatyou and I talked before.
Look at our music.
We went from listening to musicon like having to go to a live
(36:06):
place, you know, like a venue togo watch the bands play live.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
Or you heard it on the radio.
SPEAKER_00 (36:12):
Or you heard it on the radio, but you didn't before
there was the radio, you had togo.
Go there and see it.
Yeah.
So then now the radio comes in,and now we're like, what?
Then, you know, 10 years afterthe radio, now we got TV, and
then it's ca it's A-Track andit's you know, records and and
cassette tapes and MP3 playersand DVDs.
SPEAKER_01 (36:32):
I think it was records and then A-Tracks.
Right tracks.
SPEAKER_00 (36:34):
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
So records, then the A-Tracks,and then the cassette tapes, and
you know, DVDs, and then as faras the movies are concerned,
VHSs and beta max, or beta maxesand VHSs, like just all these
things, uh, and all within 75,100 years now?
SPEAKER_01 (36:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:53):
You know what I'm saying?
And this is where we are.
SPEAKER_01 (36:55):
So I'm saying AI is the the things that it can do
now and the things that it isdoing and continue to do,
because it's solving a lot ofshit that they couldn't do.
Right.
Now AI is able to, like, youknow, which is amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (37:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (37:09):
And again, like we always talk.
So did we get it for the owners,or is it just something that we
we've able to got to the pointwhere we gotten smart enough to
where we're able to create acomputer like that?
SPEAKER_00 (37:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (37:21):
You know, that's basically what it comes down to.
SPEAKER_00 (37:23):
Well, we have the we've had the computer that was
able to do that.
It was the size of like I mean,I forgot how big they said it
was.
It was a huge room and it hadthe crazy super computer that
was in it.
SPEAKER_01 (37:33):
Well that's the problem they say with II, is
that they're gonna have the thisit's gonna need so much energy
that they have to make sure theydo it in a way where it's not,
you know, it's sucking energy.
In other words, they gotta makeit where, you know, as energy
efficient as possible becauseit's gonna consume a lot of
energy.
It's gonna consume a lot ofenergy.
SPEAKER_00 (37:54):
So then now again, so because of what we already
see AI is turning into what itpotentially could be, right?
Is it now the aliens that are,you know, here to set up for
that?
What AI is going to be, whetherit's for us to fight it or for
us to be a part of it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:14):
I don't know.
And you might be right, becauseyou know, they have those videos
where they sh supposedly showthat when a missile goes up in
the sky or whatever you see, yousee an alien ship shoot it out
of the sky, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (38:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (38:26):
And you're like, wow.
What the hell was that?
Is it true?
Don't know, but is thatpossible?
Who's to say it isn't?
You know, who's to say it didn'thappen?
And then, you know, it's justbut either way, it's good to
have an open mind about it, youknow, as far as but the
abduction thing is pretty prettyfucked up though, because you
know, and then they take peopleand they do shit and it's like a
(38:48):
violation and everything.
And again, they don't care.
SPEAKER_00 (38:50):
So Yeah, but is it a is it is it something to protect
us?
SPEAKER_01 (38:54):
Right.
You know what I mean?
Pascagoula abduction?
The Pascagoula.
1973 Mussippi.
Two men, Charles Hicks andCalvin Parker, were fishing with
a glowing egg sheep craft landednearby.
Three robotic creatures floatedtoward them, paralyzed them with
strange light, and brought theminside for a physical
(39:15):
examination.
After being released, theyreported the incident to the
police, and during a secretrecording, both men were heard
expressing genuine fear evenwhen they thought no one was
listening.
That tape still exists today.
See?
It's pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (39:31):
Yeah.
Again, so the funny is thatnobody I don't think I've heard
of anybody that was abducted andknew why they had to be.
SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
Right, because in the movies we always see it
where it's it's not that way.
SPEAKER_00 (39:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (39:47):
You know, they see it and they're not hypnotized or
nothing like that.
It was never a movie like that,except for like what do you call
encounters of the fourth kind.
The left.
Well, no, but they never saidwhy they were being abducted.
Yeah, but no, right.
They just were something thatwas crazy was going on because
that one guy just lost it.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, he couldn't.
He shot himself, remember?
(40:07):
Yeah, he shot the family andthen himself.
Right, remember?
Because he just like he waslike, whatever they were doing
to him.
Right.
So something was wrong and itwasn't a good thing.
SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
Right.
But again, was that what thattown was an experiment?
So we'll go back a little, abunch of years.
SPEAKER_01 (40:24):
Oh no, man.
SPEAKER_00 (40:25):
So think about it.
There was remember that episodeof Twilight Zone where the
aliens were sitting there andthey were invisible to everybody
else, and they had given the guythe power.
It was like a one from Venus,the aliens from Venus, aliens
from Mars, and they were usingthe humans.
So they gave that one guy, oh mygod, from Rocky.
Virgus Merida?
Yep, Virgis Meredith.
That they had given him power.
(40:45):
He was strong, and he was ableto pick up, you know, all these
things.
Oh, I remember that one.
And he used it for fame.
You know what I mean?
Then, you know, and they took itaway from him, and then he was
nothing but a me head again.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Then the aliens from Venus camein and they gave him the power
of thought.
Like they made him superintelligent.
Right.
And then he's sitting there anduh, yes, then the equation is
(41:07):
this and the third, and now hewas a fucking genius.
SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
Right, right.
SPEAKER_00 (41:09):
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (41:10):
Who is this freaking guy?
SPEAKER_00 (41:12):
Yeah.
So I mean, like I said, is itthat I I don't know, man.
I think that with the abductionsand the way that they happened,
how frequent they had lookingfor something.
They were looking for something.
I think they saw that I saidthat's right.
Sorry.
Yeah.
They were probably looking forit.
But that, you know, just nowwe're we're, I'm gonna say,
(41:34):
watered down from, you know, ouroriginal uh, I guess we'd say
DNA links.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (41:41):
That's too technical for me, bro.
SPEAKER_00 (41:43):
Yeah, that's funny.
That now they're not abductingpeople the same way in as many.
We don't know that.
Maybe they're just not reported.
Maybe it's not being reported ornot allowing to be reported.
But then how, see, so now here'smy other thing with that, right?
Ready, you ready, you ready?
They're letting out all of themilitary or just pilots, planes,
(42:04):
military as a whole, regularpilots, airline pilots, now
they're letting their sightingsbe public knowledge.
SPEAKER_01 (42:11):
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:11):
They're allowing stuff to come out now.
Right.
So they're not.
Which is really good, whichexplains a lot of things, too.
Uh, and that goes back to what Iwas saying before.
Do you think that then the thefriendship between the aliens
and governments on the planetpart true?
I don't know, this friendshipprobably a part of the.
Well, I'm gonna say partnership.
All right, fair enough,partnership.
(42:32):
Hmm.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Because then it's like, well,you know what?
You guys need to be here, youneed to find out because we need
to save the human race, youknow, for the future, or
whatever the case may be.
You know, we want to get in onthis because we're not gonna be
able to do it.
SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
If I was an alien, I'd be like, you guys are some
dumb motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_00 (42:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:50):
You need to smarten up.
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
But maybe not because that's the aliens that
are quote unquote smarter thatare setting us up.
Like we're their guinea pigs.
We're livestock.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Supposedly.
Right.
Again, on the assumptions.
You know what I mean?
Never know.
Yes.
Like I said, we've seen way youand I have watched way too many
fucking movements.
SPEAKER_01 (43:10):
Yeah, we do, man.
Just not even the movies, but Iyou know, I watch the the when
they do it on the aliens, youknow, if it's on sci-fi or
Discovery or whatever it's on,and they sit and I watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (43:21):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (43:21):
You know, some of it, like we said before, but you
can tell when it's you know whenthey little extra.
They put a little extra.
But when it's the other stuff,you know, when uh serious
encounters and things thathappened.
Yeah.
You're like, oh, that's prettyweird, man.
SPEAKER_00 (43:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Like, why there?
What would happen?
What would I need to do if thatever freaking happened?
SPEAKER_00 (43:38):
Well, I mean, like we said before, like we're
talking about what is it, thethe uh Barney and Betty Hill.
Those were one of the firstpeople.
Started doing the Waffle.
At least for our time.
Yeah.
So then I'm saying, right,right, but I'm saying that, you
know, that and that was what,1960s.
For that time.
They still talk about it.
They still talk about thatstuff.
I know.
Right.
It's like we're st they're stillthe staple, if you will, of
(44:00):
abductions.
Right.
You know, they were just acouple.
Well, I I mean, well, it doesn'teven matter, I guess, their
race, but they were a biracialcouple out in the middle of
nowhere, coming home from a youknow, from a function and down
that long dark desert highwaywith cool winding their hair,
trying to find the passage backto the place they were before.
You know what I'm saying?
(44:20):
And here it is.
This light comes up out ofnowhere and takes them out for a
couple of hours.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (44:27):
Man, ma'am, thank you, man.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:29):
And you never know.
And like I said, she was alltore up.
You know, people werequestioning if he had done
something to her.
You know, right, or right.
But they're right.
Under hypnosis, they weretelling the same story.
No, yeah.
This is what happened.
SPEAKER_01 (44:44):
But again, back then.
That's the thing that gets me iswhen they do it under hypnosis
and then they go, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_00 (44:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:50):
How are they saying this under hypnosis?
What's going on?
Yeah.
There's no way they could havetrained themselves to do that.
You know, why would they think,oh, if they're gonna put us
under hypnosis and they're gonnamake so we're gonna need to
figure this out and make sure weget our stories on it.
SPEAKER_00 (45:02):
That's like the that that would probably be at the a
couple of years of fast.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
The subliminal.
Yeah, though.
Right?
You've had to get in thesubliminal.
Yes, seriously.
I I want the knife.
Well, please.
Remember that?
Go to child.
So with that, that was our alienabduction, Jamie.
(45:25):
You know, we went a little bitback and forth on there.
Yeah, we're gonna be man.
Because you just, yeah, I lovethat shit.
This is good Halloween stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (45:33):
Yeah.
What kind of stories do you guyshave?
SPEAKER_00 (45:35):
Yes.
Yeah, man.
Listen, uh, we got, what,another two episodes before the
month is over?
Right?
Yep.
So hit us up, man.
We're gonna probably try to do alive episode, the last, the last
one.
Absolutely.
So this way we can have peoplejust throwing in the last for
the Halloween stuff.
So, and then, oh, and isn'tOctober breast cancer month?
(45:56):
Yes.
Well, cancer, I know it's gonnacancers, but appreciate listen,
everybody, stay strong, staysafe.
Thank y'all for watching.
Love, peace, and hair grease.
Live long and prosper.
And what was Thomas?
SPEAKER_01 (46:08):
Stay weird.
Holler!
And welcome to CC and NJ Guy.
Yay.
Hollery.
Also known as Cotton andCrawford and the Jersey Guy.
SPEAKER_00 (00:15):
Yes.
Yes.
Welcome.
Yes.
Ah, ah, ah, ah.
SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
So we're here to continue on our Halloween theme
for the month.
Yes.
I thought that I thought that,you know, abductions was a good
one.
SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Yes.
So we had touched on this oncebefore.
Right.
Right.
So then it is cool because it isthat spooky, that eerie.
It is.
It is spooky, man.
Of of uh things that well,people being abducted, alien
stuff.
If it happens on Halloween.
Well, so now.
So I'm gonna tell you we look athow far back that it that
(00:52):
aliens, supposed aliens, havebeen on coming to visit us and
the uh what's called there yougo.
That's what I'm talking about.
Fucking A, bro.
Holy shit.
You know?
Oh yeah.
And we have our our guest againtoday.
Mom's protege.
Yes, yes, yes.
Chilling with us.
Yep.
His eyes are open, he's inthere.
Isn't he handsome?
It'd be fucking great if youcould talk.
(01:13):
But yeah, so you know, how farback that we really look at
alien abductions, alienvisitation.
Well, they go as far well, I'msure they go back even farther
than we have recorded.
SPEAKER_01 (01:24):
Right, exactly.
Yes.
But from what we know, I thinkit's like the probably from the
30s up, possibly.
The abductions.
Okay.
Not abductions, but how aliensightings and things like that.
Again, that but abductions maybelater on.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (01:37):
But maybe earlier, because like you just said, it
could have been early in timethat we don't even know about.
Because we look at what all ofthe of tribes is what I'm going
to call them around the planetthat have always called them
gods.
You know what I mean?
So then, you know, how far back?
We look at, well, we now, if welook at some of I don't know if
I ever said this to you, some ofDa Vinci's drawings, his
(01:58):
paintings, Van Gogh and stuff.
If you look in the background,there are usually people in the
background that are looking andpointing up to something that he
drew up in the top.
So it's not like just a bird,it's like some spot, some
different type of figure.
Some disc or something likethat.
Like, you know, some flyingobject is up in a lot of you
know of their paintings andstuff like that.
(02:18):
So, you know, again, like yousaid, that's before the 30s, you
know, before the 30s and 40s,because like what was it?
It's now this one I know I'veI've heard this a whole bunch of
times in 61.
Barney and Betty Hill, that wasthe couple that they were
driving on the road, right?
And they lost, what is it, howmany hours of we wouldn't have
an exact number, but like two orthree hours of their time that
(02:39):
they lost.
You know, driving back to thecity.
Two hours missing, two hoursmissing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:43):
From memory, Betty Betty's dress was torn and
stained.
Yep.
And Barney's shoes were scuffedunder hypnosis, both describe
being taken aboard a craft,examined by small gray beings,
and some shown start map thatmatched the Zella Reticule
system.
I'm probably not pronouncing itcorrectly.
The a constellation unknown tothem at that time.
(03:06):
Right.
Or the time.
So then now you I mean, thinkabout it, bro.
That's crazy, man.
You that you first no, youfirst, you first I heard a
thing.
I was watching something wherethey said that grays, which are
actually the taller ones.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
Right?
Are well they can continue togrow, I think is what happens
with them, if I'm not mistaken.
Something weird happens.
Right.
Are supposed to be us aftertime, we progress to that.
And now we're coming back to tryto fix whatever it is that they
effed up on.
Yeah.
But from what I understand, theydon't have the same compassion
(03:45):
or sense to the point where theyhave no if they hurt you or
whatever, you don't give fucked.
Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:50):
Yeah, you know, just enough to keep you hypnotized if
you will.
Yeah.
Kind of some kind of submissive.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and that's what I'm saying.
So that again, so are aliensreally visitors from another
planet?
Are they just us in the futuretime traveling?
You know what I mean?
So it's us on another planetthat are trying time traveling
(04:10):
back to get us.
Or portaling through somehow.
So that now that was um uh I'mglad you brought that part up.
So what I've like said.
SPEAKER_01 (04:19):
Because it's impossible to get moved that
fast, even that fast, if youcan, you gotta be able to open
something up and go through andend up someplace else.
SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
Right, right.
Yeah.
So however it is, whatever liketime travel or or wormhole or
whatever it is that they have,is that they're getting here.
So now, the other thing that Ihad heard in uh another show
that I was watching, I'm youknow, again, between ghost
hunters or ghost hunting showsand and the alien shows, bro,
listen, it's it's insane.
(04:49):
I get it.
So that one of the conversationsthat I heard was that you don't
hear about as many abductionsanymore because we are not of as
strong, I guess our genes, youknow, or our immune systems and
stuff like that aren't as strongnow in like say like the 2000s
(05:14):
as they were back in the day,you know, when we were 30s, 40s,
even back to, you know, whatevertribes are running around on the
planet and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01 (05:25):
70s and 80s we were.
SPEAKER_00 (05:26):
Right, right.
But I'm just saying, like theseare things like you know, we've
not we don't want to.
Right.
But I'm just saying, like wedon't have like now it's almost
like we're tainted.
We're not as pure, if you will,as we used for whatever it is
that they're looking for.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:41):
You know what I mean?
Right.
So that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:42):
Maybe they're missing a I think I saw
something on that where they saythere's a genome that they're
missing that they need.
Right.
We're not at that level yetwhere they can use it because
we're too still not not evolvedenough enough or something for
that.
SPEAKER_00 (05:55):
That's what I'm saying.
It's that then, you know, wethey didn't find it in the old
ones, so right now they seem tobe taking a pause, and then
they'll be back, you know, yeah.
They keep checking on 30, 40years.
SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
And if they're doing that, it's not because they're
traveling.
There's no way.
I just can't believe thatanymore.
It has to be something else.
Because they're saying that nowthat wormholes may exist, and if
they do, it's actually what'sholding the galaxy, the fabric
of space together, I should say.
SPEAKER_00 (06:19):
Well, but then why wouldn't it be logical for them
to travel back and forth?
SPEAKER_01 (06:22):
Only because But if they're using those kind of
things, then that's more like aportal in this sense.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and but then don't forget,people still see people still
see the the UFOs.
They see the underwater ones,they see, you know, all the
other things that are happening,so that then it's still
plausible that they might justbe here on the planet.
Right.
You know, that they're livingliving in that deepest depths in
the of the oceans and the seasand you know, and and all these
(06:50):
other things.
So you never know.
They could be water thing iscool too, because you they they
gotta be under there, man.
I mean, it's just it makessense.
Especially if you're seeing moreso now, you know what I mean?
Well, think about how we turnaround and us as humans, how we
sit in space, you know, we haveour astronauts and they're in
space for six months at a time.
You know what I'm saying?
(07:11):
It's crazy.
So then why wouldn't aliens, youknow, these alien figures that
they wouldn't be coming in andthey're doing six months at a
time, you know, a year at a timebeing here.
That's their mission.
I don't even know if they evenYeah, I see what you're saying
for a certain amount of time.
Right, and then they go back andthen they send the next, you
know, the next shift, you know,over.
What happened, bro?
I'm just checking out.
SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
Yo, you just look at that.
SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
He didn't go nowhere, he didn't move, you
know.
But yeah, and you know, so andthen what's the other one?
The Alagash.
Four college student friends,four college friends went
camping in Maine and saw astrange glowing object over the
lake.
They signaled it with aflashlight, and it's sudden,
then suddenly the light movedtoward them.
The men woke up later at theircampsite, unable to remember
(07:55):
what happened.
Years later, under hypnosis,they all described being taken
aboard a craft and examined bybeings with large heads, black
big black eyes, and theirstories all match almost
perfectly.
Perfectly.
SPEAKER_02 (08:06):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:07):
And that was decades later.
You know what I'm saying?
So they're hypnotized, you know,to try to get to block out
whatever it is.
SPEAKER_01 (08:14):
Whatever it is, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
Because then this because they don't even know.
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
I'm just saying.
And do you think it's the samething we were talking about in
reference to the episode we didwhere we talked about hauntings
where they said that the the uhentity is somehow singling you
out because of the vibe that yougive off or something you file
like do the aliens or they justrandom, you think, and just do
(08:41):
what they want because theydon't care.
SPEAKER_00 (08:44):
That's a hard one.
SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
What do you think?
Maybe both.
SPEAKER_00 (08:47):
Yeah, maybe both.
Because I mean, if you thinkabout where people see and or
have heard, like people that saythat they know that they uh my
grandmother used to, you know,she felt when a ghost was
around.
You know, my great-grandmother,my great-great-great, my
great-great-grandfather, mythis, my third, all those
ancestors that you know wereshamans or they were the priests
of the village or whatever thecase may be.
(09:10):
Yes, my lineage is this and thethird for yada yada religions or
whatever the case may be.
Maybe that the aliens arefollowing that line, that
bloodline.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Never know.
Because again, if it's what I'msaying, and then, you know,
about them looking for thepurest gene code that then that
(09:32):
would, you know, that they'retrying to find or follow a
particular gene code, you know,that's their study.
That's what they're thinking,that's what it is.
Ten generations of thisparticular gene.
We have to wait, they're notready yet.
Yeah, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (09:44):
Yeah, which is kind of weird.
It is that's really what'shappening, you know.
That's that's kind of strange.
Yeah, I mean, again, no.
I I think I think definitelythere's this other life in other
places.
It's just a matter of theproblem is getting there.
So, but yes, I do believe thereare other other uh living forms
of life.
SPEAKER_00 (10:04):
So dig it.
They say that we don't know,well, we don't we don't see,
can't see from right heresitting outside looking out.
We can't see the back the darkside of the moon.
No.
So that then, of course,conversations between movies,
you know, all the time.
Behind there and all that.
It's on the dark side of themoon.
Right.
You know what I mean?
There are places on Mars thatthey say, oh, that looks like
that was, you know, a particularuh you know, certain formation
(10:28):
or all that a pyramid, you know,a fissure that just seems super
huge.
You know what I mean?
Maybe they've been here, maybethey were here, maybe they are
here, you know?
There's always still left.
Exactly.
And they never left, bro.
How many movies haven't we seenwhere the aliens are still here?
Right.
We go way back in the day, youhad V.
(10:48):
And that they were the ones thatthey had.
The original show on TV.
Yep.
So V was a show where the alienswere like lizards, like they had
like a lizard skin.
And eventually had sex with oneof our own.
And then that was the mixed.
And the lizard baby came bornout.
Yeah, and then that turned intoa whole other.
That was the next three seasonsafter that.
Yeah.
But that they were wearing humanface masks, not human skin.
(11:11):
It was like they had the mask,you know, they look real enough.
And they looked real enough thatpeople didn't know until they
kind of started to talk to them,and it was like a nerd kind of
guy, not a nerd, like just asuper straight and narrow guy.
Like, no, we do not understandwhat you mean.
And then they would like youwould see their eyes like have
the lizard.
SPEAKER_01 (11:27):
They knew they were aliens, but they didn't know
they were they were lizards.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:30):
Yeah.
They thought they were just fromanother country, not from
another planet or anotherwhatever.
Wherever.
You know, then you had there wasa movie called Them with Ron uh
Roddy Roddy Piper that you putin the city.
SPEAKER_01 (11:39):
That was great with the glasses.
Yeah.
And it and you could see what'sactually being on.
The signs have uh and all themessages and things that you
don't see because it'ssubliminal.
SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
Right.
So then now you just think aboutlike they say, there's always
not always, but that was great.
That one to me was like to me,that was like, that's kind of
how it would probably happen.
But then now, how many aliensare really here?
Now we fast forward 50 years andwe got men in black.
Right.
So now you have men in blackwhere there's actually you know
(12:11):
secret government office hiddensomewhere in the bottom of the
city somewhere.
It's actually in all over.
They had stations, you know, orprecincts, whatever you want to
call them, over a whole planet.
And on the moon.
unknown (12:26):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (12:27):
So that then now here it is, you know.
What if that's real?
You know, how many people don'thow many times don't we see
those?
SPEAKER_01 (12:33):
I'm sure there's something going on right there.
SPEAKER_00 (12:35):
Yeah.
So I mean, you know, I meannothing you needed to know
about.
Well, I you know, but now here'sthe next question, real quick.
Would you be comfortable inknowing?
Do you think that our societywould be comfortable in knowing,
be okay with that?
Or do you think that you shouldkeep it secret?
SPEAKER_01 (12:54):
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
I just think it's right now,it's not Not yet.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (12:59):
Okay.
unknown (13:00):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (13:00):
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's not saying that.
I'm not saying that theyshouldn't know.
Of course we should know.
That goes without saying.
SPEAKER_00 (13:05):
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (13:07):
Absolutely.
Yeah, because I would love to beable to speak to an alien.
It's not even a matter if I wantto meet them or anything, but I
would like to know.
SPEAKER_00 (13:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:13):
Hey, this is what's going on.
They may have been here.
I want to actually this, that,and the other thing.
SPEAKER_00 (13:18):
I want to have a conversation, see what the
universe is like.
Like, what's it out?
Because I mean, you know, again,we here here that aren't, those
of us that aren't astronauts,you know, oh, it's so dark up
there, you know, it's vastspace.
Like, you know, you thinkbecause you see the moon that
it's like, you know, you know, a10-hour ride.
In actuality, it's like a dayride, you know what I'm saying?
(13:40):
Or two-day ride straight.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Going to Mars is, you know,longer and Pluto.
Like, right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:49):
Or something like that.
SPEAKER_00 (13:49):
So I would like to know how do they feel that long
ass trip to get here, and nowthey're here.
You know, do they want to gohome?
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (13:58):
Yeah, but again, I think the technology is so well
advanced now, is they're they'reable to go in and out of time
quickly.
Right.
But even though they could stillmove at very fast speeds.
They've shown that when they'vehad it on video.
SPEAKER_00 (14:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (14:11):
You know, like super fast.
SPEAKER_00 (14:13):
I I think I'm going in and out of water and Yeah.
But I mean, I think I'm justcurious to know what their life
was like on their planet, youknow, to know how they feel
making that long ash, you know,uh mission, that crazy travel
that they're here and they'resettling down and, you know,
whether they're excuse me,they're living underwater or
they're just mixed up in herewith us.
(14:35):
If it's just like, you know, abunch of Chewbaccas that are
fucking Bigfoot, you know what Imean?
And they're just dipping in andout of uh time.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Hitting that little dimensionalwormhole.
How many things haven't we seenwhere they show, well, because
only such nerds, man.
Yeah, I know, right?
You know, look at what they saythat aliens have built in
(14:55):
ancient history, in our ancienthistory.
And it's all what we're gonnafirst assume to be a religious
building, but then the dooropens up and there's another
door or a wall.
You know, that there's when theycome in here and they're doing
electromagnetic readings, thatit's you know, right, there's
(15:15):
something that should be here.
Like this, there's nothing elsegoing on here in the middle of
this desert, but we're gettingthese crazy readings off of the
buildings.
You know what I mean?
Right.
That's like, what the hell?
Why is that?
Right.
You know what I mean?
Some kind of energy is surgingfrom it.
You know, and then now, my nextquestion what's the di is there
a difference between the well, II guess I know that there's
(15:37):
differences, but the aliens thatwant to help us.
I'm sure there's good and bad.
Or that they just want to ruleus.
Who knows?
You know what I mean?
You know, like they whathappened to some of our other
civilizations?
SPEAKER_01 (15:51):
The thing I saw on one of the things on TV that we
watch, sci-fi or whatever it is,and the story was is that the
aliens met up with the leadersof the world back in the fifties
or something.
Right.
I suppose Eisenhower or Right.
Anyway.
The story is in short, ofcourse, I don't know word for
word, but they gave him twochoices.
(16:13):
I guess one was the right way togo or not do a certain thing and
continue doing what you're doingnow.
Like maybe have peace and thenthey chose not to go the other
the right way.
They went the other way.
SPEAKER_00 (16:30):
The the humans.
SPEAKER_01 (16:31):
Uh humans, supposedly.
SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
Right.
So now how many times has tolook that up so I know exactly.
But still, how many times howmany times has that conversation
been had?
Because now we look at so if welook at what I would say would
be evidence of lostcivilizations.
So was it that the aliens werehere, they gave humankind that
(16:54):
were here on earth ultimatums,like do this or we're gonna
destroy you.
Like maybe that's really thebiblical stories that we heard,
you know, all the religions, andthat was the main story because
had we just all of a sudden hadthat ice age, you know.
Right.
We all of a sudden had thatsuper flood, you know.
We all of a sudden had, youknow, we didn't have the fire
yet.
(17:14):
But, you know, all these things.
Well, in LA.
No, no, no, like the floods orthe fires to to just wipe out
everything on the planet.
God's no, it's just horrible.
Right, but it'll be the samething as the flood, you know,
like Noah's Ark.
You know what I'm saying?
They say if it's gonna happenagain, it's gonna be fire this
time.
SPEAKER_01 (17:31):
Isn't it?
Isn't it the next one?
It's gonna be something comingfrom space.
It's just gonna plow into thefucking planet and it's gonna
take everything out.
SPEAKER_00 (17:37):
Just like it did the dinosaur.
Right.
So they then they just turn itout.
SPEAKER_01 (17:40):
That's why they're doing all the technology now, so
they can see which one they needsome knock out of orbit.
It's dark.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
They can't see shit.
You know what I mean?
Technically, they can't seeevery single one, bro.
They can not every single one.
Well, so that now I that's whatit's like.
SPEAKER_01 (17:52):
It's all the ones they then the ones that are
necessary to see.
It depends on what track theyare and if they've been around
before.
So you sometimes they get closeror closer.
Right.
Like City's comic.
Right.
It just comes back.
You want to make sure it doesn'tcome back and come that close.
Or right, or hit you want it toleave again and go back.
So somehow, if they knock it offits orbit, they're able to land
(18:14):
on a fucking now.
Right.
And then, you know, push it,make it go in a different
direction.
They've proved that already, sowhich is good news.
Yeah.
Right.
So they're doing that.
So But they have to monitor theskies all the time.
SPEAKER_02 (18:28):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (18:29):
They have to watch which ones they and they do.
They map it out and they get nowwith AI and everything, they
could Well, so now we're gonnasay that that's not alien
driven.
SPEAKER_00 (18:40):
That it's not the aliens that are driven.
SPEAKER_01 (18:42):
No, that's just more protecting the planet from
destruction.
SPEAKER_00 (18:46):
But I'm saying that the that the that's the same.
New species begins.
Yeah, I know, right?
I'm saying that the that it'snot the aliens that are aiming
that meteors.
SPEAKER_01 (18:55):
No, no, no, no.
I don't think so.
No, not at all.
I think it's just the way spaceis, and you know.
Yeah.
You know, when they say theplanets hit more than once.
Yeah.
But the really big one is theone that destroyed.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (19:08):
But that was the and that's what like Ice Age and and
how many miles?
It was so many miles long.
This thing was huge.
Yeah.
And that that's what hit theplanet, and then that's what
wiped it out.
Because think about it.
All the things that they'vefound rock and fire.
Think of fire, bro.
I mean, this thing.
All the stuff that we hadarchaeologists are still finding
(19:29):
things.
Archaeologists are still findinglike whole villages.
You know what I'm saying?
They're finding that I think wehave said it before too.
They were in Antarctica and theythey were coring out the ice,
and they went down like almost amile or a little bit more than a
mile, and they came up withfern, bro.
(19:49):
It was ferns that were in the atthe bottom of the ice.
Ferns are tropical plants, andthey found it in the ice.
Right.
You know?
The the Because it just shiftedeverything around.
So that then it was that flashfreeze.
Well, the we've gone throughseveral ice chains.
SPEAKER_01 (20:04):
Yes, exactly.
But there's been like one thatwas real supposed to be real.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
Well, the latest one that we would be able to see and
tell.
Could happen again.
Exactamundo.
Could happen again.
And and and like I said, is itthings that happening?
Well, that would suck balls.
But now, is it things that thealiens are trying to warn us
about?
SPEAKER_01 (20:23):
Oh, so as far as the alien thing, I don't know.
You know what I mean?
But as far as aliens concerned,I I kind of see it more as if I
feel like we are being watchedin a sense and they're just in
the shadows.
Mm-hmm.
And if they do already know thatthey're here and they're dealing
with them, we're still fuckinghere.
So Yeah.
We gotta hope that stays thecase.
You know what I mean?
(20:44):
I don't know how that works orif even it's if it's really
happening.
You know, it's just it's crazyto think about.
But who's to say it can't,especially now that we're
getting more advanced?
We got AI now.
Right.
Yeah.
But then it just keeps gettingbetter and better and better,
and it's just Well, who'scontrolling the AI?
Well, I'm not talking aboutthat.
I'm talking about it's just faras not I'm talking about AI in
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general as far as how smart it'sgonna be.
SPEAKER_00 (21:09):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:10):
It's just gonna be ridiculous.
It's already showing that nowwhen it comes to certain things.
So that's what I'm saying.
But yeah, whoever is controllinga certain one, you want to be
aware of that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:19):
So that's what I'm saying.
So then is the AI with how fast.
SPEAKER_01 (21:24):
I'm just talking about the the necessary what AI
can do now as far as technologyis concerned, what it can do for
you.
Medicine, everything it can do,positive things.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (21:34):
So for me, right, with the AI is that if it's
alien driven, I mean thatthey're the one that gave the
technology, they could basicallyprogram it to say whatever it is
that they want church to do.
Could that I could that's alittle That's a little bit more
out there, but you know, it'sstill I said that's that, you
know, again, that alien thing.
You know, if we just said thatmovie them, that it was all that
(21:56):
subliminal stuff that peoplecouldn't see unless they had on
the sunglasses.
As soon as they saw that nowthey then it was like they were
snapping out of it.
Right.
So that then what if that's whatAI is setting that up to be?
You know what I mean?
Don't know.
And like I said, again, alienabductions.
Were they just taking us to turnaround and just to study us?
(22:18):
You know?
Is it to get us ready forwhatever they're planning?
Well at least it's not likePredator.
That could be really bad.
God, bro, because oh my god.
SPEAKER_01 (22:26):
So imagine that.
SPEAKER_00 (22:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:27):
Aliens coming down, but what game now?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:30):
Just taking us out.
Yeah.
Well, they had the one movie,Predators, where they were
taking the people from the earthfrom different planets, but they
had the earth people.
Right, I like that one.
Yeah, and they took them to aplanet that was just strictly
for hunting whatever.
SPEAKER_01 (22:44):
Now they got a new one coming out now.
SPEAKER_00 (22:46):
Yeah.
You told me there was the one onthe series.
SPEAKER_01 (22:49):
Aliens was the series.
Or Alien Earth.
Alien Earth.
SPEAKER_00 (22:52):
Oh, yes.
That's really good.
SPEAKER_01 (22:54):
Yes.
But the one that there's anotherone that came out with a
predator, and this woman playsthis android of some sort, and
she tries to get through to thisthing to like, hey, we need to
work together to get to beatthis thing.
Supposedly, there's a creatureon the planet they can't beat.
Like it's like unbeatable.
SPEAKER_00 (23:13):
And there's and and there's a cartoon too of
Predators with the Predatorthing.
Really?
So I want to see the one you'retalking about.
SPEAKER_01 (23:19):
I want to see the cartoon one to that's right,
because it's on uh I think it'son Disney, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00 (23:23):
Ooh, Hulu.
SPEAKER_01 (23:24):
I thought it was peak.
SPEAKER_00 (23:25):
I thought it was um prime.
SPEAKER_01 (23:28):
I think it might be.
SPEAKER_00 (23:29):
Well, either way, we'll have to dig it out and
look at it.
Hulu, it might be on Hulu.
But that's us, you know, goingback and forth.
SPEAKER_01 (23:33):
But But Yeah, that kind of stuff we should be
thankful of.
SPEAKER_00 (23:37):
Not that we didn't say is happening, but what's to
say that that's not what theywhat the the pred the alien
abductions have been?
Because there are people thathaven't even come back that they
can't find anymore.
There are people that have beentaken for a couple of years and
then shown up in another part ofthe world.
SPEAKER_01 (23:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (23:54):
You know what I'm saying?
So what if the alien abductionsare more to predator?
You know what I'm saying?
Well they say the cow when theymutilate a cow or they bend down
to chupacabra.
SPEAKER_01 (24:08):
It's alien.
Right.
Usually.
Yeah.
Because of something.
And supposedly it may have evenhappened to people.
Supposedly certain stories.
Right, yeah.
But you know, these two guyswere together and one of his
friends got off walked off onday I don't forget remember
where they were.
Supposedly went over a mountain,some type, and then this UFO
(24:29):
picked him up and mutilated him.
Yep.
Supposedly.
Right.
And I may not have all the factscorrectly.
Yeah, I think I remember hearingsome of the things.
I was watching it on one of thethings.
I'm like, this is crazy, man.
SPEAKER_00 (24:40):
Bro, what about that the close encounters of the
fourth kind?
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Well, that was a great movie, man, by the way.
And but they put the realfootage on next to it, which
blew my freaking mind.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
Exactly.
That a whole town was havingbasically the same freaking
dreams, bro.
You know, well, I'm gonna sayquote unquote the dreams.
They all had the same storiesabout what it was with the
kicking them up out of thehouse.
The cop was standing there withthe city.
(25:13):
Like fuzzes out, and then he'sstill.
But you could see it pulling outof the house at first, and then
next thing you know, it's itjust like fuzzed out.
You could see it coming intoscreenshot.
And that was official likecopyright.
That's almost like Star Trek.
Yeah, bro.
That's what I'm telling you,man.
It's it's it's crazy, it'sinsane because here's a town
(25:34):
that these people were were sothe way it goes that they were
all abducted, but the whole townwas scared of these alien
abductions happening.
SPEAKER_01 (25:46):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:46):
You know what I'm saying?
We don't always hear aboutpeople that survived it.
You know what I mean?
People are too scared to comeout and speak on it.
You know what I mean?
I would probably be a littlenervous about it too, man.
Because then some people wouldjust be like, yo, you guys are
freaking crazy.
You don't know what you'retalking about, you're freaks,
you're freaks.
Meanwhile, it was something thatreally happened to me.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
You know, somebody they had an experience that they
can't explain and they didn't,you know.
And it's under hypnosis thatthey're telling these stories.
Right.
So, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:13):
So it's allowing the brain to open up and for you to
and there can't be that manypeople that are being hypnotized
that are coming up with the samefreaking story.
Right.
You know what I mean?
That's that's it can't be.
There's not that area.
No, no, there it's definitelysomething going on, man.
For sure.
Right, right, right.
That's why I'm like, man,listen, though, that shit is
(26:35):
ridiculous.
No, that's ridiculous.
Yeah.
What was the other one to do?
Oh, there's some Travis Travis.
SPEAKER_01 (26:40):
Travis Walton.
Incident, 1975, Arizona.
So the ones we have on here are,but we, you know, there's plenty
out there we could pick from.
I thought these because theywere early, you know?
Travis Walton, since uh 1975,Arizona, while working with
logging crew, Travis Walton sawa glowing stick in the woods.
He said toward it and wasblasted by a blue beam.
(27:01):
His coworkers fled thinking hewas dead.
Travis vanished for five days,only to reappear disorientated,
near a highway.
He later recalling recalledbeing inside a spacecraft
surrounded by non-human beings.
His case inspired the movie Firein the Sky.
And to this day, he stands byhis story.
(27:22):
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (27:22):
Did you ever see Fire in the Sky?
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
I think I saw that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:25):
I remember he was with his friends where they were
working or something.
And then Yeah, I only saw likeparts of it.
I didn't get to see the wholething.
But that movie was kind ofspooky, bro.
It was.
That movie was spooky.
SPEAKER_01 (27:37):
Encounters of the fourth kind.
That was spooky.
SPEAKER_00 (27:39):
Oh, that was, yeah, but that was like.
That scared the shit out of me.
Yeah, that was like spooky.
SPEAKER_01 (27:42):
But yeah, this was spooky too.
Yeah.
Because of the way the story,because he comes back five days
later, like Jesus?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Wasn't it supposed to be three?
SPEAKER_00 (27:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
Like that would have freaked meout.
Like if you came back five dayslater, I was like, where the
fuck were you?
Yeah.
But that's a few people.
There was another one I saw.
Matter of fact, not two, I sawit a couple of weeks ago, that
it was one guy that wasabducted, came back like ten
years later in Europe, orsomething like that.
Like he was on that side of theplanet.
And it's like, how the hell didhe get all the way over there?
SPEAKER_01 (28:13):
I don't know.
That's so weird.
SPEAKER_00 (28:14):
Ten years later, nobody's seen him and he didn't
even know where he was.
SPEAKER_01 (28:18):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (28:18):
He just happened to be where he was, and it was
like, How the hell did I justget here?
And didn't live anywhere.
People over there didn't knowhim.
Like it's not like they saw himfor 10 years.
He just happened to be show upin the fucking middle of like a
you know a period or whatever itwas.
They're like, how the hell didthat happen?
You know?
(28:38):
And then to find out what wasdone or not done to him, like
they don't even remember photos.
You know, a lot of them rememberthat they were being, you know,
examined, but they don't evenknow where they were being
examined or anything like that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:52):
It's like a fog almost.
SPEAKER_00 (28:54):
Right, yeah.
You know, and it's like, whatthe hell?
Yeah, that's why it's insane.
Remember that move that themovie um Stargate?
Right.
So that then Stargate, soStargate was going back a little
bit, is what we talked aboutbefore.
And those gates come into play.
Remember because they have morethan they're all over the place.
And they're all over, but thenthey are because they look at
(29:14):
all these places.
So they call them the the waylines that cross around the
whole planet.
And where those way lines are islike where Stonehenges and the
pyramids are and how they lineup or whatever, like in their
spaces.
And these are supposed to behigh energy, high concentrated
energy spots, and that there'sthe belief has still been that
(29:35):
these are ways that the aliensthat or the gods that were here,
which we believe are aliens,they were transporting between
all these different places.
Right.
Or teleporting, whatever youwant to call it.
But that's how they got aroundso quick and whatnot to home
planets and whatever else.
So then you find all thesetexts, these drawings, the the
(29:57):
hieroglyphics and stuff that areshowing.
You know, people that are.
It's not just in one side of theplanet, they're all over the
place.
Different pyramids, differentSouth America, North America,
you know, Alaska, Antarctica,Russia, Egypt, you know, Egypt,
you know, Europe, Australia.
All over, man.
All the continents on theplanet.
And you're like, damn, thepeople weren't even traveling
(30:20):
like that to be able to, orstaying long enough in any one
place to be able to, at thattime when they when they you
know try to date when thesethings were drawn, people
weren't even able to get backand forth like that.
You know what I'm saying?
But then again, here's what Iasked before.
Is it that we had civilizationwhere there was actual written
(30:43):
civilization where we peoplewere actually talking, you know,
like Atlantis kind of stuff, andthen these crazy, I guess we'll
say, natural disasters happenedand then wiped everybody out,
and we basically had to startover again.
Was it that the aliens turnedaround and, you know, they did
something to start us over?
SPEAKER_01 (31:00):
Wow, that's super conspiracy theory right there.
SPEAKER_00 (31:02):
But then these are things though, that like I said,
these are conversations thatI've watched and heard on some
of the aliens.
Like UFO.
SPEAKER_01 (31:09):
I believe in, yeah, like I said, I, you know, I I
don't get that's it just seemsto me it's more when you do
that.
It's like like you're like uhalmost like you're afraid of
something like that happening.
Like you think, well, if theycome, are they the ones actually
doing this, and this is why wedo A B C and D.
I don't think I don't know.
I can't say.
Do you think this some outerpower has the control to
(31:31):
navigate what we're doing?
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
Well, bec that's again, so now we go by your
first what you said first andsaying that the aliens are us.
SPEAKER_01 (31:42):
Well, that's the rumor or the you know, the
theory that we've come back, soand now we're grays, and we're,
you know, we've So now you knowto avoid us being grays, then
now they're coming back to tellus don't do these things.
SPEAKER_00 (31:57):
You know what I'm saying?
Don't don't don't don't fallinto what we did.
They're trying to change theirhistory.
I would hope so.
SPEAKER_01 (32:04):
I hope it wouldn't be bad like you were mentioning
before.
SPEAKER_00 (32:08):
Because think of what they're looking like.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So here we are and we look likewe look like, you know.
Now they say that for thebiggest thing.
SPEAKER_01 (32:15):
But if they don't already care, you know, by the
way they their demeanor is, howcan they do you know, do you
think they can be able to uhBecause now it's their survival.
SPEAKER_00 (32:25):
Think about it.
If you're in a situation whereyou need to look out for you,
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (32:28):
So you're saying they're coming back to try to
think them to tell us not to dothese certain things, make sure
you're taking care of this andyou're going this direction.
Don't go this way.
Yes.
And then you'll end up the way.
SPEAKER_00 (32:40):
Or you'll end up looking like us.
You know what I'm saying?
But who's to say that's notevolution?
Again.
So then what happened on theplanet?
So if we go by animals, right?
Animals that have those big kindof eyes, that's because it's
dark.
Right.
So they have to have those kindof eyes so they can see in the
dark.
Right.
So that then if these grays arecoming back, they're gray.
(33:01):
Well, bats don't have big eyeslike that.
Some they have sonar, butthey're blind.
SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Right.
That's true.
SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
So they use so.
SPEAKER_01 (33:07):
Yeah, but you do have fruit bats, though.
SPEAKER_00 (33:08):
Yeah.
So then that's what that is.
So now they're gray.
So that means no sunlight.
So they're not getting the thevitamin C, vitamin D, whatever.
So there.
So that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
Pigment is really uh Right.
SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
So now they're like pale and whatnot because now
they their evolution is what itis that we've done now.
So whether it was like a nuclearstorm that just went away.
SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
I'll tell you.
You know what I'm saying?
Something that fucking stupid,man.
Look at Matrix.
The movie Matrix.
SPEAKER_00 (33:35):
So everybody's living underground.
So you think the aliens arecoming to to warn us?
That's what one of the theoriesis.
Okay.
That the aliens are coming back.
So they're us and they're comingback to warrant us or try to fix
whatever genealogy.
Like in sense of what to eat,not eat, don't do it right.
But don't put this in there,don't you?
SPEAKER_01 (33:53):
Don't file these politics, that, the other thing.
SPEAKER_00 (33:56):
Like it you're saying everything up off the,
you know.
I'm not gonna say everything,but because we know that I'm
sorry, we don't know.
We're assuming that governmentagencies around.
SPEAKER_01 (34:06):
You can believe it, but doesn't make it true.
SPEAKER_00 (34:08):
Right.
So then they believe there it'ssaid that they have the
communication with the aliens.
So that then now, if that's thecase, they already know what's
supposed to be happening in thefuture.
So then they're letting thealiens come back.
It's a lot of what ifs.
Oh, yeah.
It's all day what if.
You know, but again, it's it'sthe what ifs and how much of it
(34:30):
is true.
Because if we literally say allof these things together, it
makes sense.
It's a whole story.
So they're here for one thing.
SPEAKER_02 (34:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (34:37):
They're us coming from either another planet or
another time to try to fix andand and and I guess we'll say uh
use us as the guinea pigs toturn around and fix, change up
what's going to happen, whatcould happen in the next 300
years if we go back, you know,go that far forward.
SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (35:01):
So then it's, you know, to change us.
Whether it's to change us, youknow.
SPEAKER_01 (35:06):
Possible.
Possible.
I don't look at it that way,though.
I I see it differently.
I see it more where hopefullyget to a point where, you know,
everything gets more, you know,we get out of our own way and we
actually progress.
And, you know.
I would love that.
Medicine and people are gettingable to live and you know, and
move on with technology, youknow, as far as uh energy is
(35:29):
concerned.
And you know what I mean?
Like going the right direction.
SPEAKER_00 (35:32):
Well, think of how far we're gonna be able to do
that.
SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
But as far as built but as far as the future way,
you know, you picture it in yourhead, you know, you say, you
know, like when you see it,you're like, you know, where
it's just everything's so cleanand crisp, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:45):
Well, think of what technology has looked like for
us in like the last hundredyears.
You know what I mean?
We basically went from horsesand you know, and carriages to
now electric vehicles.
You know what I'm saying?
We look at just listening thatyou and I talked before.
Look at our music.
We went from listening to musicon like having to go to a live
(36:06):
place, you know, like a venue togo watch the bands play live.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
Or you heard it on the radio.
SPEAKER_00 (36:12):
Or you heard it on the radio, but you didn't before
there was the radio, you had togo.
Go there and see it.
Yeah.
So then now the radio comes in,and now we're like, what?
Then, you know, 10 years afterthe radio, now we got TV, and
then it's ca it's A-Track andit's you know, records and and
cassette tapes and MP3 playersand DVDs.
SPEAKER_01 (36:32):
I think it was records and then A-Tracks.
Right tracks.
SPEAKER_00 (36:34):
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
So records, then the A-Tracks,and then the cassette tapes, and
you know, DVDs, and then as faras the movies are concerned,
VHSs and beta max, or beta maxesand VHSs, like just all these
things, uh, and all within 75,100 years now?
SPEAKER_01 (36:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:53):
You know what I'm saying?
And this is where we are.
SPEAKER_01 (36:55):
So I'm saying AI is the the things that it can do
now and the things that it isdoing and continue to do,
because it's solving a lot ofshit that they couldn't do.
Right.
Now AI is able to, like, youknow, which is amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (37:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (37:09):
And again, like we always talk.
So did we get it for the owners,or is it just something that we
we've able to got to the pointwhere we gotten smart enough to
where we're able to create acomputer like that?
SPEAKER_00 (37:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (37:21):
You know, that's basically what it comes down to.
SPEAKER_00 (37:23):
Well, we have the we've had the computer that was
able to do that.
It was the size of like I mean,I forgot how big they said it
was.
It was a huge room and it hadthe crazy super computer that
was in it.
SPEAKER_01 (37:33):
Well that's the problem they say with II, is
that they're gonna have the thisit's gonna need so much energy
that they have to make sure theydo it in a way where it's not,
you know, it's sucking energy.
In other words, they gotta makeit where, you know, as energy
efficient as possible becauseit's gonna consume a lot of
energy.
It's gonna consume a lot ofenergy.
SPEAKER_00 (37:54):
So then now again, so because of what we already
see AI is turning into what itpotentially could be, right?
Is it now the aliens that are,you know, here to set up for
that?
What AI is going to be, whetherit's for us to fight it or for
us to be a part of it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:14):
I don't know.
And you might be right, becauseyou know, they have those videos
where they sh supposedly showthat when a missile goes up in
the sky or whatever you see, yousee an alien ship shoot it out
of the sky, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (38:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (38:26):
And you're like, wow.
What the hell was that?
Is it true?
Don't know, but is thatpossible?
Who's to say it isn't?
You know, who's to say it didn'thappen?
And then, you know, it's justbut either way, it's good to
have an open mind about it, youknow, as far as but the
abduction thing is pretty prettyfucked up though, because you
know, and then they take peopleand they do shit and it's like a
(38:48):
violation and everything.
And again, they don't care.
SPEAKER_00 (38:50):
So Yeah, but is it a is it is it something to protect
us?
SPEAKER_01 (38:54):
Right.
You know what I mean?
Pascagoula abduction?
The Pascagoula.
1973 Mussippi.
Two men, Charles Hicks andCalvin Parker, were fishing with
a glowing egg sheep craft landednearby.
Three robotic creatures floatedtoward them, paralyzed them with
strange light, and brought theminside for a physical
(39:15):
examination.
After being released, theyreported the incident to the
police, and during a secretrecording, both men were heard
expressing genuine fear evenwhen they thought no one was
listening.
That tape still exists today.
See?
It's pretty crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (39:31):
Yeah.
Again, so the funny is thatnobody I don't think I've heard
of anybody that was abducted andknew why they had to be.
SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
Right, because in the movies we always see it
where it's it's not that way.
SPEAKER_00 (39:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (39:47):
You know, they see it and they're not hypnotized or
nothing like that.
It was never a movie like that,except for like what do you call
encounters of the fourth kind.
The left.
Well, no, but they never saidwhy they were being abducted.
Yeah, but no, right.
They just were something thatwas crazy was going on because
that one guy just lost it.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, he couldn't.
He shot himself, remember?
(40:07):
Yeah, he shot the family andthen himself.
Right, remember?
Because he just like he waslike, whatever they were doing
to him.
Right.
So something was wrong and itwasn't a good thing.
SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
Right.
But again, was that what thattown was an experiment?
So we'll go back a little, abunch of years.
SPEAKER_01 (40:24):
Oh no, man.
SPEAKER_00 (40:25):
So think about it.
There was remember that episodeof Twilight Zone where the
aliens were sitting there andthey were invisible to everybody
else, and they had given the guythe power.
It was like a one from Venus,the aliens from Venus, aliens
from Mars, and they were usingthe humans.
So they gave that one guy, oh mygod, from Rocky.
Virgus Merida?
Yep, Virgis Meredith.
That they had given him power.
(40:45):
He was strong, and he was ableto pick up, you know, all these
things.
Oh, I remember that one.
And he used it for fame.
You know what I mean?
Then, you know, and they took itaway from him, and then he was
nothing but a me head again.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Then the aliens from Venus camein and they gave him the power
of thought.
Like they made him superintelligent.
Right.
And then he's sitting there anduh, yes, then the equation is
(41:07):
this and the third, and now hewas a fucking genius.
SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
Right, right.
SPEAKER_00 (41:09):
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (41:10):
Who is this freaking guy?
SPEAKER_00 (41:12):
Yeah.
So I mean, like I said, is itthat I I don't know, man.
I think that with the abductionsand the way that they happened,
how frequent they had lookingfor something.
They were looking for something.
I think they saw that I saidthat's right.
Sorry.
Yeah.
They were probably looking forit.
But that, you know, just nowwe're we're, I'm gonna say,
(41:34):
watered down from, you know, ouroriginal uh, I guess we'd say
DNA links.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01 (41:41):
That's too technical for me, bro.
SPEAKER_00 (41:43):
Yeah, that's funny.
That now they're not abductingpeople the same way in as many.
We don't know that.
Maybe they're just not reported.
Maybe it's not being reported ornot allowing to be reported.
But then how, see, so now here'smy other thing with that, right?
Ready, you ready, you ready?
They're letting out all of themilitary or just pilots, planes,
(42:04):
military as a whole, regularpilots, airline pilots, now
they're letting their sightingsbe public knowledge.
SPEAKER_01 (42:11):
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:11):
They're allowing stuff to come out now.
Right.
So they're not.
Which is really good, whichexplains a lot of things, too.
Uh, and that goes back to what Iwas saying before.
Do you think that then the thefriendship between the aliens
and governments on the planetpart true?
I don't know, this friendshipprobably a part of the.
Well, I'm gonna say partnership.
All right, fair enough,partnership.
(42:32):
Hmm.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Because then it's like, well,you know what?
You guys need to be here, youneed to find out because we need
to save the human race, youknow, for the future, or
whatever the case may be.
You know, we want to get in onthis because we're not gonna be
able to do it.
SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
If I was an alien, I'd be like, you guys are some
dumb motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_00 (42:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:50):
You need to smarten up.
SPEAKER_00 (42:51):
But maybe not because that's the aliens that
are quote unquote smarter thatare setting us up.
Like we're their guinea pigs.
We're livestock.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Supposedly.
Right.
Again, on the assumptions.
You know what I mean?
Never know.
Yes.
Like I said, we've seen way youand I have watched way too many
fucking movements.
SPEAKER_01 (43:10):
Yeah, we do, man.
Just not even the movies, but Iyou know, I watch the the when
they do it on the aliens, youknow, if it's on sci-fi or
Discovery or whatever it's on,and they sit and I watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (43:21):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (43:21):
You know, some of it, like we said before, but you
can tell when it's you know whenthey little extra.
They put a little extra.
But when it's the other stuff,you know, when uh serious
encounters and things thathappened.
Yeah.
You're like, oh, that's prettyweird, man.
SPEAKER_00 (43:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Like, why there?
What would happen?
What would I need to do if thatever freaking happened?
SPEAKER_00 (43:38):
Well, I mean, like we said before, like we're
talking about what is it, thethe uh Barney and Betty Hill.
Those were one of the firstpeople.
Started doing the Waffle.
At least for our time.
Yeah.
So then I'm saying, right,right, but I'm saying that, you
know, that and that was what,1960s.
For that time.
They still talk about it.
They still talk about thatstuff.
I know.
Right.
It's like we're st they're stillthe staple, if you will, of
(44:00):
abductions.
Right.
You know, they were just acouple.
Well, I I mean, well, it doesn'teven matter, I guess, their
race, but they were a biracialcouple out in the middle of
nowhere, coming home from a youknow, from a function and down
that long dark desert highwaywith cool winding their hair,
trying to find the passage backto the place they were before.
You know what I'm saying?
(44:20):
And here it is.
This light comes up out ofnowhere and takes them out for a
couple of hours.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (44:27):
Man, ma'am, thank you, man.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:29):
And you never know.
And like I said, she was alltore up.
You know, people werequestioning if he had done
something to her.
You know, right, or right.
But they're right.
Under hypnosis, they weretelling the same story.
No, yeah.
This is what happened.
SPEAKER_01 (44:44):
But again, back then.
That's the thing that gets me iswhen they do it under hypnosis
and then they go, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_00 (44:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:50):
How are they saying this under hypnosis?
What's going on?
Yeah.
There's no way they could havetrained themselves to do that.
You know, why would they think,oh, if they're gonna put us
under hypnosis and they're gonnamake so we're gonna need to
figure this out and make sure weget our stories on it.
SPEAKER_00 (45:02):
That's like the that that would probably be at the a
couple of years of fast.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
The subliminal.
Yeah, though.
Right?
You've had to get in thesubliminal.
Yes, seriously.
I I want the knife.
Well, please.
Remember that?
Go to child.
So with that, that was our alienabduction, Jamie.
(45:25):
You know, we went a little bitback and forth on there.
Yeah, we're gonna be man.
Because you just, yeah, I lovethat shit.
This is good Halloween stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (45:33):
Yeah.
What kind of stories do you guyshave?
SPEAKER_00 (45:35):
Yes.
Yeah, man.
Listen, uh, we got, what,another two episodes before the
month is over?
Right?
Yep.
So hit us up, man.
We're gonna probably try to do alive episode, the last, the last
one.
Absolutely.
So this way we can have peoplejust throwing in the last for
the Halloween stuff.
So, and then, oh, and isn'tOctober breast cancer month?
(45:56):
Yes.
Well, cancer, I know it's gonnacancers, but appreciate listen,
everybody, stay strong, staysafe.
Thank y'all for watching.
Love, peace, and hair grease.
Live long and prosper.
And what was Thomas?
SPEAKER_01 (46:08):
Stay weird.
Holler!
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