September 17, 2025 • 45 mins
Curious why that last TikTok you posted got only 12 views while someone else's similar content went viral? You're not alone.
The Jersey Guy Podcast team dives headfirst into the mysterious world of TikTok's algorithm, sharing our collective journey as relative newcomers to content creation. We break down how watch time trumps likes, why sharing is the ultimate engagement metric, and how the platform somehow knows the difference between funny cursing and nasty cursing (yes, really).
Between laughs and revelations, we unpack surprising discoveries about social media strategy - from optimal posting times to banned hashtags that could be tanking your reach. The conversation reveals how TikTok has evolved beyond entertainment into a legitimate search engine for everything from restaurants to roller coasters, offering more authentic insights than traditional websites.
As three friends with different content creation strengths, we discuss finding our unique niches - talking head videos, voice-overs, captioned images - and how combining these approaches creates more engaging content. The episode balances practical tips with candid reflections on staying authentic in an algorithm-driven world.
Whether you're a content creator looking to boost your reach or simply curious about the science behind what appears on your For You Page, this episode offers a refreshingly honest look at social media's inner workings. We've learned that while understanding the algorithm helps, creating genuine content that makes people laugh will always be the most reliable path to connection.
Ready to crack the code? Join us for a conversation that might just change how you view (and use) social media. And remember - if it makes you laugh, chances are it'll make someone else laugh too.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Cotman Crawford and the Jersey Guy
podcast.
I'm your host, Tom Ramage.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I guess no, he's not, he's too busy dancing, he's too
busy dancing.
Sorry, I'm too busy dancing.
That's a cop Just chill.
Way too into it.
So tonight's episode we aregoing to be talking about
TikTokiktok, yeah we're going totalk about everybody's doing it
, and they know exactly whatwe're talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, so yeah, no, just you know.
You know lou and kenny are kindof new to it.
I've I've been on it since thelike probably 2020, but like you
know, it's I'm trying to try.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That was so cocky of me you know, I, I you know so
you know we're starting as ifyou're following us.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You obviously have been seeing we've been making a
lot more content lately.
So yes, you know we're a littlemore into it.
We're a little more doing moreof the I guess you would say
more of the- social media stuff,you know like more of the real
creating.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know content creating stuff, so it's fun, and
I tell you it is kind of funthough when you do it.
You know what I mean.
You right, you get some kind ofsatisfaction out of, especially
if it comes out the right wayyeah, you know and you're like
that was good.
I, I like that, right, I'mposting that you know.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, and then you know what it is it's like.
So we are three differentpersonalities, we're very
different, you know, and it'sthat's why we reach out to you,
right, yeah, well, because, tom,you know the funnies and such,
(01:50):
and you know the, you knowyou're learning the algorithms
and you spread the word orwhatever.
Just yeah, definitely.
And so then now, but now it'slike when we're doing the
content, like you're saying yes,yes.
So then now it's about you knowfinding our niche as to what it
is right.
So, like I like doing, you knowthe pictures and you know
putting the subtitles orwhatever on the videos.
You know lou likes doing the,the voiceover right, yeah, you
like doing the video, you knowyeah, yeah, we do that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I do the talking head .
I try to do some videos likecamera.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I had to talk ahead stuff, right, yeah, stuff that
you've been sharing stuff, use acap cut you know it's always a
fun one to use you know whenthey got these.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know, they got these templates and you just
kind of just like can addanything to them, like the one I
did with jim.
Yeah, that was awesome.
That was the one where he goes.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We landed on the moon yes, well, see, that's and
that's what I want to learn howto do those because, like I said
, I have a picture that I wantto.
You know, put the captions on,and I want to right, you know I
want to use that right I gottawait for permission to get that,
to use that picture, I can'tjust throw it up there.
But you know just differentthings like that and you know
I'm not afraid to do the videos.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm the rule of if it makes me laugh, yeah, and I
have no problem making fun ofmyself because I think that's
the funny shit Right.
Like when you fall and whateverit is.
I took a flop right down mystairs in the front.
I was on the camera video.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
My wife kept watching it over and over.
You need to send it to us, topost it, and I laughed harder
than she did.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I was like hysterical .
So I love to laugh and do funnyshit and being goofy.
I think that's a good thingit's, rather than being serious,
but see, it's okay for us.
I wasn't really comfortabledoing that, were you?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
in the beginning I wasn't, yeah, no, I was fine
with it.
Like I said, me doing like usdoing the podcast.
I had zero issues with, youknow, talking I had.
Well, everybody that knows me Iknow I ain't got a problem
talking.
You know, the video stuff isn'tit?
I just want to make it where,like our videos on social media,
right, right, you know, aregonna get those views or
whatever because of us doing thepodcast.
(03:41):
You know I'm saying I'd want tohelp be able to promote it.
Oh, I get it.
So it's trying to find thefunnies getting to that
algorithm, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And then, so now you're telling us, too, that the
algorithm isn't just what we'redoing.
It's about the time you put itout.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh yeah, it's a whole science right the time of the
day.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That's the thing is like the thing with the tech,
talk out, you know, with thealgorithm and everything is like
you.
You definitely have to like youknow.
I mean, if you're just like, ifyou're, if you're posting a lot
, right, you know you want toput your best stuff out.
When it's going to be likeRight, but how do?
You know Well, you have to likelook up, so it changes when
(04:20):
like yeah, like there's also acertain time, and also there's
analytics, you look up and stufflike that.
My God To see like when yourvideos are performing more and
start following the analytics,but that's hard to follow.
I've never been good atfollowing that stuff and there's
people who talk that likereligiously swear by following
analytics and like I shouldprobably do that, but like it's
(04:41):
just hard.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, I think what we're doing is good enough.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's hard to it's overboard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's somany people doing it.
You know the.
It is good to know who youraudience is, though.
It'll tell you like oh, youraudience is like 75 percent male
, and you know ages 40 to 60 orsomething like that, something
like that it's good to know.
So at least you know if you'remaking content you play to your
audience, like yeah, but likeyou're saying you know if you're
making content you play to youraudience, like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But like you were saying, though, you know it's,
it's, it's about.
Well, I'm sorry if.
I no, no, go, go.
But I'm saying to, like youstarted to say, before you know
it's, it's when we put them out.
You know what I'm saying.
You started to say about whatwe're putting you know to, to
get what you know.
I guess our target audience,right, you know I want it to be
for like everybody, right, youknow what I'm saying?
I want everybody to be 50 andup.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's why funny stuff is the best stuff, because
anybody, if anybody, has asense of humor Right yeah Is
going to laugh.
Usually, if you're laughing atit, then you know it's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I know you guys would say no, yeah, or it's just not
funny, or it's not funny.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Or it's not funny, right.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But that's what I'm saying.
So it's for us, because we wantto stay a comedy, we want to
stay funny, yet you know, butserious about certain things.
You know what I'm saying.
I could say this, you know wedon't do the politics and the
religion because we want this tobe a quote unquote safe space.
You know what I'm saying?
We want everybody to listen tous and feel just ha and enjoy
(06:12):
themselves.
You know what I'm saying Us toput a smile on your face when
you're having a funky day.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
If I want to be in a bad mood, I'll talk about that,
but I don't want to talk aboutthat.
Right, exactly, we want to comeright.
You know I like that.
It's the best.
I think it's the right.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We did the right thing when it came to that for
sure, absolutely, and I like ourPSAs you know what I'm saying
the few we do we follow a lot ofdiverse stuff on.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Instagram and things like that I make sure that if I
see any type of thing I get itoff me, but I usually go for the
positive Right.
Or some more you know aboutyourself, whatever it is,
whether it's you know food orexercise, or meditation Right,
Listening to certain, you knowfrequencies or whatever like
(06:56):
that, Because there was, youknow it's a whole bunch of
different stuff, but theinternet does that for you.
You can get all that stuff,okay.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
So now my next question would be because of the
likes or the things that wefollow, does that also put us
into a different algorithm?
You know what I'm sayingbecause, if you look, at a lot
of lights.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, yeah, it does right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Just so I think about it like I know for me, on my
personal right, I have you know,like cars, motorcycles, if you
like stuff, if you like cars andmotorcycles, then you're gonna
see content, exactly right forus on our social media, for the
podcast, social media having allthose lights not so much the
funnies is what's going to end.
(07:35):
That's the algorithm is gonnapush us into.
So no matter, you know, like Isaid, that's why I'm like, oh
yeah it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Just my attitude is just put it out.
If you think to yourself likeI'm trying to go on my first
instinct and write it down so Idon't forget it, I'm like, oh,
that would be funny, well, wecould do this, because then you
forget it, I'm thinking, if Iwrite it down, I can talk to you
guys about it, and then wecould try it.
And we just did one.
(08:04):
I mean, it was hysterical youknow.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
What's funny, though, is that the algorithms like
they, they, they know whatyou're doing and they actually
like put videos out.
That hint to you so like I wastalking to you guys earlier
before we were recording, is,like you know, like when you
like, when you go your first,the first, first post is someone
(08:25):
saying hey, do you, if you needto do this to get more views or
whatever, or you need to startutilizing this feature, because
tiktok likes when you utilizetheir new feature.
Like they know that thosevideos say that, like the
algorithm knows the transcriptsand and like what the, what the
description of the post is, soit pushes that out to you to
(08:48):
tell you, like we see thatyou're trying, here's some ideas
that can help you right and Itried a couple of them already
and like, even like, the shop Isaved the shop was like now.
the shop's like all of a suddenshowing us like stuff, like for
content creator tools, like likemounts for oh yeah.
I might have a tripod already,but it doesn't know, I don't
(09:10):
have a tripod Like for tripod,or the lights, the new lights,
or the ring lights which wealready have, because they're
smaller now.
Oh, give me a spin, and youknow different, like the
microphones, like the wirelessmicrophones.
I know, those are cool, though,but it's ending to you like,
hey, buy this stuff because thisis going to help you.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Aren't there points that you get on TikTok as well?
Aren't there points that youcollect or you gain, oh, to get
paid?
No, I mean because, like theysay, if you do this, you'll get
points for this.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So that was one of the people talking.
So the algorithm the videosactually have like a point
system, so like a like, doesn'tmean much.
Actually, the most importantthing is who watches the video
from beginning to end.
Watch time is one of the mostimportant factors.
(10:01):
That's like I guess it would bethree points, so like it's
timing, so like because thatmeans people like the content,
because they want to.
The whole idea is of socialmedia is to get you on the app
long enough to watch anadvertisement and maybe buy
something.
It just like tv and radio it'sall advertised right, so they
(10:22):
want content on their app thatis going to keep to prioritize
the ones that people arewatching all the way to the end,
(10:46):
because that means it's goodthey didn't go.
Ah, this is stupid.
You know what I mean.
So that's the most importantpart.
And then they also.
The next thing is like a likeis important too, but like it's
not.
It's actually like the leastimportant thing.
That the next is important iswho is sharing it Right.
So okay, because if it's funny,we share it right.
(11:10):
If we find a video we like thatmeans that it's good content
meaning we're going to push thisout to more people, right?
So that's why it's important.
So to all those things areimportant.
And also, if it's on the fyp,so like if it's the fyp is the
for you page, that's.
(11:30):
That's like sorry, it's likeeverybody knows, that's the,
that's everybody, that's thewhat is the fyp for you page is
like the for you page okaythat's like the general, like
feed, right.
Okay, and then there's thefriends feed Right.
And then, or people you'refollowing.
(11:51):
You know what I mean.
So it's only going to show youpeople you're following, or only
friends, or whatever.
So, but FYP is like stuffthat's suggesting to you.
So you want your shit out onthe FYP because that means more
views, right, gotcha.
But yeah, so like if, if so, ifsomeone on the FYP sees your
(12:12):
content all the way through andshares it.
That's better than someone whofollows you or is a friend of
yours because they're they'regoing to see it before other
people because you know theirfriends your friends.
So the algorithm pushes acertain amount of percentage of
people you follow too, right so,but a stranger following it,
(12:34):
someone who doesn't know you,and if you get a follow, then
that's even and that's like fourpoints, like as you scored a
follow and they watched all theway through and they shared it,
like it's going to get jumpedahead and that's what happens.
And all of a sudden it goesinto the next bracket.
So the first, like they loweredit.
Now it's like now it's showingto like 100 people and if a
(12:56):
certain percentage of people dothat, then it moves on to the
next bracket and the nextbracket, and that's how their
system works with going viral.
So you bracket and the nextbracket, and that's how their
system works with going viral.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So you have to.
You know it has to be good.
That's what it is, so that'sthat's what we'll strive for.
That's what yeah, that's whatthe thing is is like people are
trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh, how can I get people?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
to watch longer.
They're trying to cheat likewatch to the end you know that's
right, or like they're tryingto like people are trying to be
sneaky about it and trying toget people to watch stuff.
Yeah, but you know what If thevideo sucks?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
they're still not going to watch it.
So your stuff has to be good,that's all.
Sometimes you get baited inwith that one, so people are
trying trying to figure outthese ways but, like in general,
your content has to be good,right?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So if you make me wait and then I go all the way
through and then if it's good,then you want to learn all those
tips to get your stuff out.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But, if it's not good and you do all those tips, then
it's just not going to go out.
But if your content is good andyou don't do those tips, and it
might not do so well, becauseyou don't know what to you don't
know strategy.
So if your content's good andyou follow those tips, you're
going to go viral.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, it's just like it's, it's just easy as that.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
yeah, yeah, I I think , but you, but, like I said, I'm
sorry, no, no, but I'm sayingit could be good and like you
don't know what to do and itcould, you know it could fall
under like nine.
A lot of people like might getlike a certain amount, like it
might only like instead ofgetting about instead of getting
like a million views.
It gets only 10 000 views, youknow I just, I just, I think, I
know.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I'll take it either way.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah Well, I mean, that's the thing.
You and I have to figure outthe right time.
So then the other question isthat if we all post at, let's
say, three o'clock in theafternoon, it's not good.
It's not good so each one of usshould have like a Like a time
slot, a certain time slot.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's what time slots do it?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I just leave Tom alone when Booty wants Right,
but then, like I said, but wedon't want to step on his toes.
So then now you know the messedup part You're not stepping on
his toes though, because themore we put out, it's good,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Well, I don't put out .
I'm not that kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Just post it, yeah, walks it to the end.
No, if you and I post that youknow too much on top of what I
don't say too much, well, you'renot going to post what I post,
because you're already stillworking.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So I have that advantage, right, he posts one,
he has the advantage during theday when he can and he takes
advantage of it.
And he just does it quick andhe's good at it.
So for him it's just likesecond nature, almost Right, we
like second nature almost Right,we're getting there but we
still got a ways to go.
I don't want to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So what time would be a good time to do it?
When you can you feel me whenyou can, but then it won't get
the views that we need it to be.
That's what we're talking aboutwith the algorithm.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But that's why one of the strategies I do with our
page is I go through the FYP andI wait for one of our videos
goes to FYP.
I wait to watch it to the end.
And then after the it's after Iwatched it to the end, then I
like it, then I'll share it toyou guys and I will like comment
(15:56):
on it.
Okay, so that's what we'll do,yeah, so that goes through all
the points, even though I'malready following.
If I wasn't following then itwould get, but then that's hard
to do that way if you're notfollowing Well, because then
that was the other thing that wewere talking about.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So when I posted the video that Lou and I recorded
the middle of the week, it frozeon TikTok, but it got more
views.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, that's another thing too.
Sometimes it'll do well on oneand not the other.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right, that's another thing too is sometimes it'll do
well on one and not the other.
Right, that's the mystery.
Like, I don't know why.
Like, is it just timing?
Could it also be?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
the amount of people that he follows on a certain one
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Well because on, but no, because we recorded it on
the podcast page.
I didn't record it on a person.
I don't have a personal TikTokRight, I only use what we do for
the podcast.
So then, when we recorded itand posted it, it was straight
up on Cotton McRuffin and theJersey Guy page.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, when he puts the stuff up with what you
record, right, Eh Videos anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the video, that's what I'm saying.
So then, when you and Irecorded that one at work oh, I
see what you're saying it wasstraight onto that, onto our web
, on our page, on our socialmedia page.
But when you copied it and putit on what's it called, you
didn't copy it, you just sharedit.
Oh, shared it.
No, no, no, on to Instagram.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, didn't you say you asked.
Well, anyway, we're getting tootechnical here.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
but but I'm just saying so, then you know it just
took it got more views.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, because what I do is I upload to multiple all
platforms Right, Like when wemake content on one.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's what I try to do.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I share it on all platforms, Right?
So for some reason, that videoyou did, which I thought was
hysterical, which is hilarious,it hysterical, which is
hilarious.
It did well on Instagram, buton like TikTok, like it didn't
do well and I reposted and itdidn't do well again.
So I don't.
It's weird Like.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't know, I don't know, just whatever it is, I
don't know I thought the samething when I saw it.
I'm like man.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I thought the numbers would be like way higher yeah,
and, like I said, I believemaybe it was the funny that it
was.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
How much later did you repost it?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
A couple hours.
I let it ride for like fourhours.
Let me do it again, becausethat's another thing, that's
another tip that comes up andTikTok, obviously the algorithm
is sending me the videos ofpeople saying that.
So they want you doing.
That is they say, if a videodoesn't do well, hit delete and
repost.
And if you go to delete it, itasks you do you want to reedit
(18:27):
and re reedit and then repost?
So you always hit reedit,repost and that puts you back
into the editing screen and thenyou can edit the video or you
can add, change the descriptionof the text, you can change a
cover photo so you can do it,and then you repost it again as
a new post, like it resets, likeall the likes, and yeah, you
know, it's like someone's seeingit for the first time.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Could the hashtags have been an issue too, or that?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
well, yes well, that's the thing.
I double checked that so itwasn't the hashtags either, but
like, so I don't know, but thehashtags there are also banned
hashtags, so you always want tocheck that.
So really I don't understandwhy you're there banned ones
because they're associated withlike bad shit, like or shit that
they don't want people seeing,like conspiracy theories and
(19:10):
stuff.
Oh, I got you Like, if likeflat earth is probably banned, a
banned hashtag.
I don't see shit like that on.
Well, yeah, that's why it's bad.
It's bad content.
Yeah, it's not going to get it'sgoing to get, yeah, yeah, so
it's because you know they theyand they and they keep changing
and they keep changing their youknow their their things on like
(19:32):
conspiracy theories and stuffand that's.
But like UFO theory is is moreplausible.
So they can't really sayanything because, like the
government, not just now youknow what I mean, I mean and I
think there's like when peopleare starting to talk about like
stuff.
That's obviously conspiracytheory like bladder.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, you know what I'm saying.
When it gets out of hand,you're like okay, yeah, I'm done
for certain things, but fair,like I said, all the earth and
right, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, I don't know, bro, because we were talking
about last week, that's.
You know.
I'm saying we're talking aboutwhat lies beneath the ocean.
The ocean, yes, well, you knowwhat it is also, and I'm sure
there are caverns that we talkabout it like is it like we're
talking about now?
Maybe is real, maybe it's not,but like they don't want people
who are like flood, earth isreal right?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
yeah, you just don't want to promote that.
Yeah, you know what?
It is right, people.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
If people are like oh , maybe it could be, yeah you
know, like it's, you know like.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What if?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I'm saying like, like , there is no, what if?
No, but I'm saying like we'retalking about like, like he was
like hollow earth, maybe youknow but, like.
It's more like, but it's the Ithink there were.
There are concerns of peoplewho are like it is and that is
the truth.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
There is a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Not like where we're like well, maybe.
You know like these are peoplethat are like no, it's real.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You're being lied to.
I got it in a vision.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I guess Imean I don't guess, I know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Right, yeah, but the social media, that's the whole
thing.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's also what you don't want to get into, too,
right, you don't want to getinto that, because the problem
is that that shit spreads whenpeople are like this is how we
do it, and I don't do that, Idon't just conform to whoever
listen, I'm going to be myself.
That's the whole idea of havingsocial media right man and you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But I finally, you know, yeah, not exactly no, no
no, but you're learning bro, andyou're paying.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I'm trying, I'm trying to get things out.
Yeah, the only thing I'mgetting creative, I'm thinking
of stuff and I'm like oh, thisis cool.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Let me write this down.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, I need to learn how to do, like you said.
Well, what tom showed usearlier, you know, um, I want to
, you know, say, put the videostogether.
You know, do like the headshots, like you were doing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, talking headshots and shit
.
Oh yeah yeah, they call thattalking head videos when you're
talking, right?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, that's like Like I want to do those.
So that's the whole thing.
You know there's so much andthere'll always be more, because
they keep adding things youknow and or you share those
videos with us.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I go right to it, listen to it, and then I try it,
and then I do it and you'll seevideos of people saying like
TikTok likes when you pushcontent forward or when you use
their new content.
What they mean by TikTok likesit is that the algorithm favors
the new features.
If there's a new feature out,use the hell out of it, because
(22:18):
it's going to get more viewsthan regular, because the
algorithm favors new shit.
Yeah Right.
So that's why they always sayjump on the trends, Right.
I do so if there's like a new,new thing out, like and people
are using it a lot, or if it's anew feature, like specifically
from the app, like the new oneis the text feature, do this, do
that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You just follow exactly what they say.
The new one is the text feature.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
They're like really pushing that now and it's good.
It doesn't get a lot of views,though.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And it's mostly a lot of women.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It gets they're the ones who know more shit than
anybody.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, so then, sorry, it gets a-.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh yeah, go ahead, they have it down.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I'm saying it doesn't go, your text views won't go
viral, but they do get a lot ofviews right away, Like 60, 70,
boom right off the bat.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
So then, are those people that are promoting them,
so the videos that we've beenseeing when we first opened up
our page?
Are those people just thecommercial actors, if that makes
any sense?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, so they're content creators that talk about
tech talk.
There's content creators, theirwhole like shit is like how to
get your thing viral, how to goviral, how to do this.
That's all they talk about.
That's insane.
But tech talks like, oh, that'sgood for us, right and but that
, that.
But people have figured outthat.
(23:36):
So now there's like a lot ofaccounts that are doing this
because, figured out, it's likethere's this thing like where
the algorithm figured it out andpeople figured out that the so,
like, but now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's always an awkward situation.
It purposely yeah, it happens.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Like, but it knows when you're like, if like, if
you're getting like low views,you start getting videos.
Are you struggling with lowviews?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We got this solution for you.
It's like the future is comingto fucking.
It's so far.
It's coming to.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's AI we think of AI as something you talk to,
but AI is an algorithm, is AI.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
There's no difference .
It's a type of AI.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's self-thinking and it's scary, but at the same
time it's pretty amazing becauseof all the things you can do
right, you can look up and, and,and you know, just ask
questions about certain thingsand get the answer immediately.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
yeah, you know I don't know, man, I'm scared.
I I mean we said before and I'mnot scared in the sense of,
like you know, of, uh, of mydaughter's gonna take over.
I'm scared, I mean, we said itbefore and I'm not scared in the
sense of, like you know, of mydaughter's going to take over
the world.
I'm scared of, like, wherepeople are going to.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
People are using it yeah, too much, you know what
I'm saying or people are usingit maliciously.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Well, they're doing that already, I mean yeah.
Well, I mean, there's a lot ofthat going on.
You know what I'm saying.
So that then it's like you said, if there's certain hashtags
that are banned, it's becausepeople would just, you know,
going straight for them.
Listen, I love a greatconspiracy theory.
You know I'm upset that.
You know there's issues withthe conspiracy.
(25:06):
I think again, like you startedto say before, they're fun to
watch.
Why, but not to?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I love reading about them because they're fun to read
.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Basically, they're religion.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yep, yep, they're fun to read, I love.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think it's so fun to watch the Flounder videos.
I'm just but like I don't likebelieve them.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'm like yeah you guys are fucking hilarious.
Like well, so not, you know,not changing up altogether Tura.
No, yeah, right, so Jesse had aconspiracy show, yeah, and all
of a sudden you know like hisconspiracies just got.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, he was a Navy SEAL.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But they and so this day he still does and he lives
off the grid, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And that guy's no joke, but I wouldn't.
Yeah, hell.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
No, he knows the predator right, let me tell you,
man, he knows his stuff thoughbecause when he talks about
certain things, but we shouldget off that subject, right
right, let's go back to what wewere talking about.
I'm saying, like you know justthose are different things where
they cut people off.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, but he's a perfect example of like what
you're saying.
You know Absolutely that thenthey would cut off those
conspiracy theories and you knowcertain funnies.
I believe that you know I likethe idea of us making funnies
off of a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
For us to make a meme .
You know a little video orwhatever off of a funny.
You know what we find to be afunny conspiracy theory.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you said, flat earth.
You know it'd be cool to havelike in the.
You know the background videoand we're doing like this with
the car and it just falls offthe edge of the you know of the
earth and space.
You know what I'm saying.
Like some kind of crackheadlooking stupid shit like that.
Like it'd just be like a funnymaking a funny up for that.
(26:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Right, right, right.
Like that's something I'd sayhollow earth.
You know that then we wouldturn into the ocean because
we're looking for the giantsquid and all of a sudden, you
know we're like standing inhollow earth you know what I'm
saying when there's dinosaursand shit like that, or just the
(27:05):
whole like I said to me thatwould be a funny ass you know
thing, because doing that ageVentura, like you know what I
mean, like looking all over theplace, you know what I mean.
Like that's, that's where I'm at.
You know, for some of thosethings you know and and and and
said.
But the social media, as far asyou know what's trending.
How do we know what's trendingwhen you know what I'm saying?
(27:28):
Because if we're getting opensup the TikTok that, then the
first thing that he's seeing ishey, try this, hey, try that.
So by the time you get throughthe next 10 videos of try this,
try that.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
If he sends or saves, because that's what you did the
last one you sent to me, yousent me the video.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
It's always the first video and then you saved it.
It's always the first video,one of those videos, and then
you go on to like your entry andI went and watched it and I did
what it said to do and I madethat Right.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I had all the pictures moving.
I just let it tried it out tosee how it was.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But those help videos , those like tech help, like
it's always the first video whenyou turn on your phone Like
they're trying to tell you likethey're.
It's purposely, they're like,really they're like.
This is what you need to do youknow what you're trying to do is
what you need to do.
This is what you need to do toget.
If you weren't posting anyvideos, you won't get those
videos.
(28:28):
If you haven't like, postedanything, you're just there to
watch videos, you'll never getthose videos.
But if you start posting videosand they're getting low, like
low views, sends them out to youright away.
Yeah, yeah I want.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I said I I had to start doing those and I'm sure
when you, start getting into thehigher categories, it starts
sending you other videos to help.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well we're already making.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
If you look at the phone and you look at it, we're
already making where you can goin and you've already made and
did enough to open this thing.
And oh yeah, oh yeah, it tellsyou the brackets in and you've
already made and did enough toopen this thing.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And oh yeah, oh yeah, it tells you your brackets,
like oh, you've reached 100followers, you can meet the next
bracket 1,000 followers rightnow with tiktok, it used to be
that you need a thousandfollowers to go live, but now
it's now, it's.
Now it's 100, I think sorry,but.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Sorry but I apologize , yeah, and then.
So now on, because that saidthat.
So then, when is it that weturn around?
And what's the algorithm?
I guess we'll say for you tothen turn around and that you
become a, or the status, thatyou end up becoming the content
creator that now you're, youknow what I'm saying Like right
(29:37):
now.
It's us, you know we'repromoting and doing things or
influencers and stuff like that,you know whether it's either
that you're either making moneyor you know that you're able to
to do different kinds of uh,selling promotions and such.
You know what I mean.
That makes sense to thequestion, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I just doing.
Well, what happens is slow andwe're getting into it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
When you start getting a lot of views and
that's that's the thing just gowith.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
The advertisers want eyes so that if you're getting
consistently high view countsand you have a lot of followers,
that's when they startmessaging you they'll start
messaging like if we startgetting like.
So if we start getting like abig following on our is, you
know, in our our instagram, ortiktok, whatever, whatever my
and we're getting consistentlythousands of views.
(30:27):
People are going to startmessaging us be, like, hey, you
want to, we'll send you thisfree product.
Try it out.
If you can do a video of it forus, it would be.
You know, as long as you do avideo for us, you know,
promoting the product, just tryit out, you know, like that's,
that's what happens?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
yeah, yeah, it just can't be a hair product.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah but that's what I see.
Just listen, we're, we tookthat, you know, we said all
right, we got to take it to thenext level when we're doing that
and we're figuring out things,and then, as it, it will just
present itself when it'ssupposed to.
You know what I mean, right?
I think there's no, no reason,no need to push.
It will just present itselfwhen it's supposed to.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, I think there's no need to push it or
just go on.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know what's the expression where they say you
know just stay forward and yeah,yeah, I know what you're
talking about, you know, butstill, with that, it's us doing
the funnies, that or what wefind funny.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That, then you know that we should do all that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's what I'm saying.
Just keep doing what we'redoing.
Just keep yeah it doesn'tmatter, you think of it and it's
funny, make something up.
Yeah, and then if you don't,you just give that guy a ring
and he'll walk you through it inlike 2.3 minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, no, no, yeah, and everybody you know they want
to message us on TikTok orwhatever.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I tell you I'm having fun because figuring out stuff
that I feel like, all right, I'mactually capable of doing this,
because it's like learningsoftware, right, it literally is
like when I learned Canva andeverything.
Now I can actually sit down and, yes, I have Canva and I go
through it.
Yeah, I can navigate through itnow, which I didn't know, but
(32:00):
until I sat down and I havecanva and I go through it.
Yeah, I can navigate through itnow, which I didn't know, but
until I sat down.
And, of course, I thank god formy wife because she helped me
walk me through some things.
But you know now that I can.
Just that's how I'm feelingabout this, where I'm going in
that direction it's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I've always been the type of person where I just
figure it out, like I just playwith the app and figure it out,
and that's how I figure it out,and you're right, cause that's
what you gotta do.
Otherwise, if you're too, youjust mess with it and understand
it Like yeah, like, and youknow, like the same thing I was
talking to you about.
Well, like the description part, like a lot of people pass that
up, like, who skip thedescription part, and like the
(32:36):
whole description part's themost important part, because
that shows you, because thatwhat that does is that if you
don't put a description, itdoesn't know where to send
videos to so it just like goes.
It's like throwing a ball up inthe air let's just spread it
around so the hashtags aren't,don't help put you into, I mean
the hashtags are helpful too,but I mean the actual like
(32:58):
wording in the description helpsthe.
It's the seo, that's the wordthey use, the I think that's
what the word for the algorithmis that they use seo, which is
the search, search engineoptimization.
So, like, whenever you put liketext in a video, even the
captions, if you use the livecaptions, those live captions
(33:20):
it's always.
That's another thing always toturn those on it's in the edit
screen.
I could, I'll show you guys.
I did, but anyway, you when youturn the live captions on.
That actually sends the seomore information for your videos
.
So that's why the captions arealways important too, because
once it translates that and hasthe text on screen, all your
(33:41):
words are now like thealgorithms right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So it'll push it out to yeah, right, yeah.
See, look at, look, who'slooking.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But also, if you got stuff that I say no, no, but
also if, if it's got stuff thatthe algorithm doesn't like,
it'll kick you out.
Yeah, like.
That's why now we use the wordon a live that's why you gotta
be creative.
That came from tech talkbecause people didn't want to
use words.
I'm not even going to saybecause I'm worried yeah, yeah,
yeah, right, but I feel like wegot someone getting.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, yeah, you know you know an unnatural effect?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
yeah, so that's where the word came from, oh, wow,
that's funny, even people sayinstead of you know, they say
someone got pew pewed yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it, bro,
that's, but that's all, that'sall that all came from tech talk
.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's wild.
That on the live yeah, is theword that came from.
That was a workaround.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Right.
Wow, that's funny.
Someone unalive themselves.
Yeah, yeah, someone got unalive.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's not cool.
Yeah, you know like that's howit, because you can't say
certain words.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's freaking crazy .
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know I'm for you know all that and I think that's
good to police it, becauseyou've been now we just found
new words, yeah.
But I get it, but but still it.
It curved it to a point whereyou knew not to say or do a
certain thing, on this,otherwise it was going to be,
you know, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So in a way, it's good to have those kinds of
rules set.
You know, I think that's a goodidea.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But I feel like that word unalive is probably now.
The algorithm probably knowsthat word anyway, of course.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
But does it only know a word or does it know like a
sentence?
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Context.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
It knows context Right?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I guess it depends on how you say it.
Maybe back then it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Maybe now it probably knows context better, well,
everything, because AI isgetting smarter and smarter, but
it's how you say it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
It's how you say it, like right now you were
explaining it isn't, you know,isn't speaking on it, right?
That's true.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You know what I mean, right.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So in the context, that's why you'll notice, if you
watch some people's videos, ifthey say a word that's bad.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
the subtitles Blank it out.
They'll put like a funny word,or they'll put something else in
, or they'll blank it out, orlike a little horn, or something
, or non-sequitur.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
So then, what about cuss words?
Because you know we do a littlebit of cussing up in here here
for opus clip.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I always sleep it out .
I choose the mute sensor justbecause for social media, just
in case.
I mean because if there's, ifthere, if it is censored, if you
self-censor, it does like wordsthat do have profanity to get
less views that's funny becauseso many things.
I mean some but like, but somedon't.
So that's why I don't know it'slike, it's like again.
That's why it's always likepeople aren't sure because
(36:43):
there's no rule, but like peopledo notice.
Like I think, if it's comedy,oh it doesn't okay, it doesn't
get messed with, right that, butif it's someone like talking
doing a talking head video andserious and like it's and I'm
border's, I think it doesunderstand tone somehow.
I don't know how, because ifit's, if it's comical, I know
(37:04):
it's like yeah, I'm sure I canget all that.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Well, that's a lie detector, like a lie detector
test.
You know some of them now, thenewer ones, you know when you
speak it tells a difference inyour tone of voice and whatnot.
So you know Because, like Isaid, there's this one dude that
I've seen a few times on socialmedia.
I got to get to him and followhis because he's a Gen Xer and
it's freaking hilarious becausehe'll say something like he'll
(37:27):
show a little clip of somethingyou know that is happening now.
He's like we did that shit backin the day.
Are you fucking kidding?
Like you know what I'm saying?
Like Are you fucking kidding?
Like you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Like he'll do those things and it's the tone Right
and how he's using it in asentence yeah, I don't find it
necessary to do it if I don'thave to.
You know, I don't mind if itbleeps it out Right, right,
right, right but if I sharesomething like well you know how
sometimes it gives you theaudio and you can search it and
say sometimes it bleeps it outautomatically, even if that is
(37:57):
already in the sentence.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well, like your post.
You know that you were out onthe porch with your couple of
coffee.
It didn't bleep that one out,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, but see, that was common and that was funny.
Right, it has to be common.
It cannot be.
Yeah, Right.
So what Tom just said makes not.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, it's not like you turn around and you're
walking up because it doesmatter of fact, and you know me
thinking about it now.
So you see, every once in awhile I'll get a fight video you
know somebody's fighting, orwhatever and they'll start
cussing while they're in there.
Come here you, I'm going tobeat you up.
You know what I mean?
That all the video?
(38:40):
Yeah, right, that makes sense,but if it's, funny, they'll let
it rock right.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That makes sense, bro .
Wow, when they.
I think it knows that, I thinkit knows that, the shit, you
know what though I think itknows that people aren't
bothered by curse words if it'sfunny right yeah, it does that
if it's funny, yeah because itknows that yeah, it knows, it
probably knows just based on theview count yes and you know
what's funny it probably ifpeople are like cursing at each
other.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Real nasty yeah people go.
I don't want to watch that well, but if it's funny they go.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That makes sense they watch the video.
Yeah wow, yeah, because youever see, you ever see that
husband and wife play thepractical jokes on one another,
which with it the balloon dropson their head.
Do you know what I justrealized?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It's probably not even a rule.
The curse words are probablynot even a rule.
It's probably just thealgorithm saying hey no people
not wanting to watch the videoif it's nasty and they're
cursing.
But if it's funny, people watchit.
I just answered my questionbefore I said if it's like nasty
and they're cursing.
But if it's funny, people watchit.
I just answered my questionbefore.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
If it's funny, people watch the video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
If it's not funny, people are cursing.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, if it's awful, that's freaking great.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
So it's probably not even a rule, it's probably just
the algorithm.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Which is not a bad thing, the violent ones.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
There used to be a whole bunch of violent ones on
social media, because if peopleare not watching the video to
the end, then it doesn't getpushed out.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, If I see stuff I don't like, I go right by it,
man.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But then that also makes sense with the videos.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Everything's a viewing system.
The algorithm knows how.
Also, that's the scary part.
It knows how long you view apost.
Yeah right, I remember youtelling us that before a while
back, and that's even withFacebook, with the videos it
makes more sense because it'sthe view, but it knows if you
watch the video to the end ornot.
So if you watch the video tothe end, it knows that the
(40:27):
content is good.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, Because I remember seeing, like I watched
the funny videos of peoplegetting hurt.
So what I mean is is, like youknow, somebody falling, you know
, down the ladder because theyput the extension ladder and the
ladder collapsed.
You know what I'm saying?
People are walking on the iceand like they're slipping and
they bust their ass.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
They slide down the driveway, they slide down the
driveway, Dude that one.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
There's a couple of them that are hilarious and
apparently too.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Like you can fast forward the video.
What, if you want?
I mean, oh, yes, edge of thescreen right on above the, where
the heart button is.
Okay, it'll fast forward andthat's fine if you watch the
video at the end even fastforward, it's fine.
Yeah, so like if I likesomeone's content and I want to
make yeah make sure that theystay.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I make sure I watch it to the end, but I'll hold the
two times x button to let it gothrough but jesus christ yeah,
that's right, I didn't figurethis one.
I'm gonna give you propsanyways, right, yeah, no, no,
that does.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's cool, that makes sense, there's this whole
science behind it, which iscrazy, you know, and how it has
its own life of its own, youknow, and it just figures out
and goes a certain direction,you know.
But it's interesting, it's.
You know.
At first, you know, I didn'twant to be bothered, but since
we've been doing this and werealized social media, you need
to be out there and you have todo it.
(41:39):
So we just said, all right,let's do it.
And I'm actually enjoying it.
I'm not making a habit out ofit in the sense where I'm
addicted to it.
I got to be on it all the timebut when I think of something, I
go on and I just do it.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
You know, a lot of people now use it for their
search engine.
I know it's weird, but likeokay, if you want to find out
about like six flags greatadventure, say, if you type in
six flags, great adventure.
Oh, yeah to tiktok.
You're gonna get like videos ofthe roller coaster, it's better
than looking at it on.
Why would you want?
to google it, yeah, it's gonnashow you like everything
someone's experience, so peopledo that now.
Even restaurants.
People look up restaurants onTikTok, right, and they see the
(42:22):
food and people post on them andit's more authentic.
I mean, I mean, there's somepeople probably paid to post,
but like you're still getting,like you're getting way better
than a website, well, that's,you're getting way better than a
website.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Right, that's insane.
That's funny as hell.
Well, because more people arelooking at it, right off the bat
, you know people are seeing it.
So when we went down toYardhouse- yeah.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
And it feels like we were there yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So people now see it, because then that's the hashtag
and now people are like oh,he's been the Location Exactly.
So you know what I mean,because I tagged the location
when we went.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, Right right.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, because we never go anywhere besides our-.
Yeah, yeah, right here.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Besides the Crawford Studios.
Crawford Studios, I like it,that's awesome man.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
I think that that's one thingthat any of our viewers and
listeners decide that they wantto do.
Whatever you know contentcreators or you know anything,
you know that it's, you knowwhen, how time, you know that
you put it on and you know, juststay real to yourself, man.
(43:29):
You know girls, women, you know.
Stay true to yourself.
Do what you feel.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
No, listen, if you have an idea, right, yeah, run
with it, run with it.
Run with it because we're herenow.
You have that.
We had, they had.
We didn't have that.
When we were growing up, wedidn't write that.
It's kids, you know now you cando it you know your imagination
can, just, you know, if you areopen to it and figure it out
all right yeah, like this isjust make you make some crazy
(43:55):
stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, this is like being a radio host, you, you
know what I'm saying, like onour own radio station.
Yeah, the podcast, the podcast.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, but I was thinking more of the TikTok
stuff.
Oh, the TikTok, I'm sorry,tiktok, you can yeah, oh, dude.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
But you know it's probably better.
We didn't have it when we werekids, Because you know I
disagree.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I think if we did, we would have been way ahead.
Oh, definitely, we would havepicked this shit up immediately,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Like we picked up everything else.
Well, yeah, All right, so weweren't idiots.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Oh, no, not that we weren't idiots and we weren't
ignorant to the fact that wewere just funny.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
That's the funny stuff.
Yeah, well, you're going to dothat shit anyway.
Then you were doing super shit,right?
And then I wish each generationat least the way I look at it.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah, I'm with you.
That makes sense, but with that, my peoples.
Thank y'all for watching, thanky'all for listening.
Thank you, gentlemen, for beinghere with me.
I love you guys.
Man, I appreciate you every day.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Love peace and hair grease live long and prosper,
and may the force be with you oh, and may the force be with you.
Welcome to Cotman Crawford and the Jersey Guy
podcast.
I'm your host, Tom Ramage.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I guess no, he's not, he's too busy dancing, he's too
busy dancing.
Sorry, I'm too busy dancing.
That's a cop Just chill.
Way too into it.
So tonight's episode we aregoing to be talking about
TikTokiktok, yeah we're going totalk about everybody's doing it
, and they know exactly whatwe're talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, so yeah, no, just you know.
You know lou and kenny are kindof new to it.
I've I've been on it since thelike probably 2020, but like you
know, it's I'm trying to try.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That was so cocky of me you know, I, I you know so
you know we're starting as ifyou're following us.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You obviously have been seeing we've been making a
lot more content lately.
So yes, you know we're a littlemore into it.
We're a little more doing moreof the I guess you would say
more of the- social media stuff,you know like more of the real
creating.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know content creating stuff, so it's fun, and
I tell you it is kind of funthough when you do it.
You know what I mean.
You right, you get some kind ofsatisfaction out of, especially
if it comes out the right wayyeah, you know and you're like
that was good.
I, I like that, right, I'mposting that you know.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, and then you know what it is it's like.
So we are three differentpersonalities, we're very
different, you know, and it'sthat's why we reach out to you,
right, yeah, well, because, tom,you know the funnies and such,
(01:50):
and you know the, you knowyou're learning the algorithms
and you spread the word orwhatever.
Just yeah, definitely.
And so then now, but now it'slike when we're doing the
content, like you're saying yes,yes.
So then now it's about you knowfinding our niche as to what it
is right.
So, like I like doing, you knowthe pictures and you know
putting the subtitles orwhatever on the videos.
You know lou likes doing the,the voiceover right, yeah, you
like doing the video, you knowyeah, yeah, we do that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I do the talking head .
I try to do some videos likecamera.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I had to talk ahead stuff, right, yeah, stuff that
you've been sharing stuff, use acap cut you know it's always a
fun one to use you know whenthey got these.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know, they got these templates and you just
kind of just like can addanything to them, like the one I
did with jim.
Yeah, that was awesome.
That was the one where he goes.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We landed on the moon yes, well, see, that's and
that's what I want to learn howto do those because, like I said
, I have a picture that I wantto.
You know, put the captions on,and I want to right, you know I
want to use that right I gottawait for permission to get that,
to use that picture, I can'tjust throw it up there.
But you know just differentthings like that and you know
I'm not afraid to do the videos.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm the rule of if it makes me laugh, yeah, and I
have no problem making fun ofmyself because I think that's
the funny shit Right.
Like when you fall and whateverit is.
I took a flop right down mystairs in the front.
I was on the camera video.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
My wife kept watching it over and over.
You need to send it to us, topost it, and I laughed harder
than she did.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I was like hysterical .
So I love to laugh and do funnyshit and being goofy.
I think that's a good thingit's, rather than being serious,
but see, it's okay for us.
I wasn't really comfortabledoing that, were you?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
in the beginning I wasn't, yeah, no, I was fine
with it.
Like I said, me doing like usdoing the podcast.
I had zero issues with, youknow, talking I had.
Well, everybody that knows me Iknow I ain't got a problem
talking.
You know, the video stuff isn'tit?
I just want to make it where,like our videos on social media,
right, right, you know, aregonna get those views or
whatever because of us doing thepodcast.
(03:41):
You know I'm saying I'd want tohelp be able to promote it.
Oh, I get it.
So it's trying to find thefunnies getting to that
algorithm, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And then, so now you're telling us, too, that the
algorithm isn't just what we'redoing.
It's about the time you put itout.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh yeah, it's a whole science right the time of the
day.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That's the thing is like the thing with the tech,
talk out, you know, with thealgorithm and everything is like
you.
You definitely have to like youknow.
I mean, if you're just like, ifyou're, if you're posting a lot
, right, you know you want toput your best stuff out.
When it's going to be likeRight, but how do?
You know Well, you have to likelook up, so it changes when
(04:20):
like yeah, like there's also acertain time, and also there's
analytics, you look up and stufflike that.
My God To see like when yourvideos are performing more and
start following the analytics,but that's hard to follow.
I've never been good atfollowing that stuff and there's
people who talk that likereligiously swear by following
analytics and like I shouldprobably do that, but like it's
(04:41):
just hard.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, I think what we're doing is good enough.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's hard to it's overboard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's somany people doing it.
You know the.
It is good to know who youraudience is, though.
It'll tell you like oh, youraudience is like 75 percent male
, and you know ages 40 to 60 orsomething like that, something
like that it's good to know.
So at least you know if you'remaking content you play to your
audience, like yeah, but likeyou're saying you know if you're
making content you play to youraudience, like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But like you were saying, though, you know it's,
it's, it's about.
Well, I'm sorry if.
I no, no, go, go.
But I'm saying to, like youstarted to say, before you know
it's, it's when we put them out.
You know what I'm saying.
You started to say about whatwe're putting you know to, to
get what you know.
I guess our target audience,right, you know I want it to be
for like everybody, right, youknow what I'm saying?
I want everybody to be 50 andup.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's why funny stuff is the best stuff, because
anybody, if anybody, has asense of humor Right yeah Is
going to laugh.
Usually, if you're laughing atit, then you know it's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I know you guys would say no, yeah, or it's just not
funny, or it's not funny.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Or it's not funny, right.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But that's what I'm saying.
So it's for us, because we wantto stay a comedy, we want to
stay funny, yet you know, butserious about certain things.
You know what I'm saying.
I could say this, you know wedon't do the politics and the
religion because we want this tobe a quote unquote safe space.
You know what I'm saying?
We want everybody to listen tous and feel just ha and enjoy
(06:12):
themselves.
You know what I'm saying Us toput a smile on your face when
you're having a funky day.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
If I want to be in a bad mood, I'll talk about that,
but I don't want to talk aboutthat.
Right, exactly, we want to comeright.
You know I like that.
It's the best.
I think it's the right.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We did the right thing when it came to that for
sure, absolutely, and I like ourPSAs you know what I'm saying
the few we do we follow a lot ofdiverse stuff on.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Instagram and things like that I make sure that if I
see any type of thing I get itoff me, but I usually go for the
positive Right.
Or some more you know aboutyourself, whatever it is,
whether it's you know food orexercise, or meditation Right,
Listening to certain, you knowfrequencies or whatever like
(06:56):
that, Because there was, youknow it's a whole bunch of
different stuff, but theinternet does that for you.
You can get all that stuff,okay.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
So now my next question would be because of the
likes or the things that wefollow, does that also put us
into a different algorithm?
You know what I'm sayingbecause, if you look, at a lot
of lights.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yes, yeah, it does right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Just so I think about it like I know for me, on my
personal right, I have you know,like cars, motorcycles, if you
like stuff, if you like cars andmotorcycles, then you're gonna
see content, exactly right forus on our social media, for the
podcast, social media having allthose lights not so much the
funnies is what's going to end.
(07:35):
That's the algorithm is gonnapush us into.
So no matter, you know, like Isaid, that's why I'm like, oh
yeah it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Just my attitude is just put it out.
If you think to yourself likeI'm trying to go on my first
instinct and write it down so Idon't forget it, I'm like, oh,
that would be funny, well, wecould do this, because then you
forget it, I'm thinking, if Iwrite it down, I can talk to you
guys about it, and then wecould try it.
And we just did one.
(08:04):
I mean, it was hysterical youknow.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
What's funny, though, is that the algorithms like
they, they, they know whatyou're doing and they actually
like put videos out.
That hint to you so like I wastalking to you guys earlier
before we were recording, is,like you know, like when you
like, when you go your first,the first, first post is someone
(08:25):
saying hey, do you, if you needto do this to get more views or
whatever, or you need to startutilizing this feature, because
tiktok likes when you utilizetheir new feature.
Like they know that thosevideos say that, like the
algorithm knows the transcriptsand and like what the, what the
description of the post is, soit pushes that out to you to
(08:48):
tell you, like we see thatyou're trying, here's some ideas
that can help you right and Itried a couple of them already
and like, even like, the shop Isaved the shop was like now.
the shop's like all of a suddenshowing us like stuff, like for
content creator tools, like likemounts for oh yeah.
I might have a tripod already,but it doesn't know, I don't
(09:10):
have a tripod Like for tripod,or the lights, the new lights,
or the ring lights which wealready have, because they're
smaller now.
Oh, give me a spin, and youknow different, like the
microphones, like the wirelessmicrophones.
I know, those are cool, though,but it's ending to you like,
hey, buy this stuff because thisis going to help you.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Aren't there points that you get on TikTok as well?
Aren't there points that youcollect or you gain, oh, to get
paid?
No, I mean because, like theysay, if you do this, you'll get
points for this.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So that was one of the people talking.
So the algorithm the videosactually have like a point
system, so like a like, doesn'tmean much.
Actually, the most importantthing is who watches the video
from beginning to end.
Watch time is one of the mostimportant factors.
(10:01):
That's like I guess it would bethree points, so like it's
timing, so like because thatmeans people like the content,
because they want to.
The whole idea is of socialmedia is to get you on the app
long enough to watch anadvertisement and maybe buy
something.
It just like tv and radio it'sall advertised right, so they
(10:22):
want content on their app thatis going to keep to prioritize
the ones that people arewatching all the way to the end,
(10:46):
because that means it's goodthey didn't go.
Ah, this is stupid.
You know what I mean.
So that's the most importantpart.
And then they also.
The next thing is like a likeis important too, but like it's
not.
It's actually like the leastimportant thing.
That the next is important iswho is sharing it Right.
So okay, because if it's funny,we share it right.
(11:10):
If we find a video we like thatmeans that it's good content
meaning we're going to push thisout to more people, right?
So that's why it's important.
So to all those things areimportant.
And also, if it's on the fyp,so like if it's the fyp is the
for you page, that's.
(11:30):
That's like sorry, it's likeeverybody knows, that's the,
that's everybody, that's thewhat is the fyp for you page is
like the for you page okaythat's like the general, like
feed, right.
Okay, and then there's thefriends feed Right.
And then, or people you'refollowing.
(11:51):
You know what I mean.
So it's only going to show youpeople you're following, or only
friends, or whatever.
So, but FYP is like stuffthat's suggesting to you.
So you want your shit out onthe FYP because that means more
views, right, gotcha.
But yeah, so like if, if so, ifsomeone on the FYP sees your
(12:12):
content all the way through andshares it.
That's better than someone whofollows you or is a friend of
yours because they're they'regoing to see it before other
people because you know theirfriends your friends.
So the algorithm pushes acertain amount of percentage of
people you follow too, right so,but a stranger following it,
(12:34):
someone who doesn't know you,and if you get a follow, then
that's even and that's like fourpoints, like as you scored a
follow and they watched all theway through and they shared it,
like it's going to get jumpedahead and that's what happens.
And all of a sudden it goesinto the next bracket.
So the first, like they loweredit.
Now it's like now it's showingto like 100 people and if a
(12:56):
certain percentage of people dothat, then it moves on to the
next bracket and the nextbracket, and that's how their
system works with going viral.
So you bracket and the nextbracket, and that's how their
system works with going viral.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So you have to.
You know it has to be good.
That's what it is, so that'sthat's what we'll strive for.
That's what yeah, that's whatthe thing is is like people are
trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh, how can I get people?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
to watch longer.
They're trying to cheat likewatch to the end you know that's
right, or like they're tryingto like people are trying to be
sneaky about it and trying toget people to watch stuff.
Yeah, but you know what If thevideo sucks?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
they're still not going to watch it.
So your stuff has to be good,that's all.
Sometimes you get baited inwith that one, so people are
trying trying to figure outthese ways but, like in general,
your content has to be good,right?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So if you make me wait and then I go all the way
through and then if it's good,then you want to learn all those
tips to get your stuff out.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But, if it's not good and you do all those tips, then
it's just not going to go out.
But if your content is good andyou don't do those tips, and it
might not do so well, becauseyou don't know what to you don't
know strategy.
So if your content's good andyou follow those tips, you're
going to go viral.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, it's just like it's, it's just easy as that.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
yeah, yeah, I I think , but you, but, like I said, I'm
sorry, no, no, but I'm sayingit could be good and like you
don't know what to do and itcould, you know it could fall
under like nine.
A lot of people like might getlike a certain amount, like it
might only like instead ofgetting about instead of getting
like a million views.
It gets only 10 000 views, youknow I just, I just, I think, I
know.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I'll take it either way.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah Well, I mean, that's the thing.
You and I have to figure outthe right time.
So then the other question isthat if we all post at, let's
say, three o'clock in theafternoon, it's not good.
It's not good so each one of usshould have like a Like a time
slot, a certain time slot.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's what time slots do it?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I just leave Tom alone when Booty wants Right,
but then, like I said, but wedon't want to step on his toes.
So then now you know the messedup part You're not stepping on
his toes though, because themore we put out, it's good,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Well, I don't put out .
I'm not that kind of guy.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Just post it, yeah, walks it to the end.
No, if you and I post that youknow too much on top of what I
don't say too much, well, you'renot going to post what I post,
because you're already stillworking.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So I have that advantage, right, he posts one,
he has the advantage during theday when he can and he takes
advantage of it.
And he just does it quick andhe's good at it.
So for him it's just likesecond nature, almost Right, we
like second nature almost Right,we're getting there but we
still got a ways to go.
I don't want to do it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So what time would be a good time to do it?
When you can you feel me whenyou can, but then it won't get
the views that we need it to be.
That's what we're talking aboutwith the algorithm.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
But that's why one of the strategies I do with our
page is I go through the FYP andI wait for one of our videos
goes to FYP.
I wait to watch it to the end.
And then after the it's after Iwatched it to the end, then I
like it, then I'll share it toyou guys and I will like comment
(15:56):
on it.
Okay, so that's what we'll do,yeah, so that goes through all
the points, even though I'malready following.
If I wasn't following then itwould get, but then that's hard
to do that way if you're notfollowing Well, because then
that was the other thing that wewere talking about.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So when I posted the video that Lou and I recorded
the middle of the week, it frozeon TikTok, but it got more
views.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, that's another thing too.
Sometimes it'll do well on oneand not the other.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right, that's another thing too is sometimes it'll do
well on one and not the other.
Right, that's the mystery.
Like, I don't know why.
Like, is it just timing?
Could it also be?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
the amount of people that he follows on a certain one
Maybe.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Well because on, but no, because we recorded it on
the podcast page.
I didn't record it on a person.
I don't have a personal TikTokRight, I only use what we do for
the podcast.
So then, when we recorded itand posted it, it was straight
up on Cotton McRuffin and theJersey Guy page.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, when he puts the stuff up with what you
record, right, Eh Videos anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the video, that's what I'm saying.
So then, when you and Irecorded that one at work oh, I
see what you're saying it wasstraight onto that, onto our web
, on our page, on our socialmedia page.
But when you copied it and putit on what's it called, you
didn't copy it, you just sharedit.
Oh, shared it.
No, no, no, on to Instagram.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, didn't you say you asked.
Well, anyway, we're getting tootechnical here.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
but but I'm just saying so, then you know it just
took it got more views.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, because what I do is I upload to multiple all
platforms Right, Like when wemake content on one.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's what I try to do.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I share it on all platforms, Right?
So for some reason, that videoyou did, which I thought was
hysterical, which is hilarious,it hysterical, which is
hilarious.
It did well on Instagram, buton like TikTok, like it didn't
do well and I reposted and itdidn't do well again.
So I don't.
It's weird Like.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't know, I don't know, just whatever it is, I
don't know I thought the samething when I saw it.
I'm like man.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I thought the numbers would be like way higher yeah,
and, like I said, I believemaybe it was the funny that it
was.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
How much later did you repost it?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
A couple hours.
I let it ride for like fourhours.
Let me do it again, becausethat's another thing, that's
another tip that comes up andTikTok, obviously the algorithm
is sending me the videos ofpeople saying that.
So they want you doing.
That is they say, if a videodoesn't do well, hit delete and
repost.
And if you go to delete it, itasks you do you want to reedit
(18:27):
and re reedit and then repost?
So you always hit reedit,repost and that puts you back
into the editing screen and thenyou can edit the video or you
can add, change the descriptionof the text, you can change a
cover photo so you can do it,and then you repost it again as
a new post, like it resets, likeall the likes, and yeah, you
know, it's like someone's seeingit for the first time.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Could the hashtags have been an issue too, or that?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
well, yes well, that's the thing.
I double checked that so itwasn't the hashtags either, but
like, so I don't know, but thehashtags there are also banned
hashtags, so you always want tocheck that.
So really I don't understandwhy you're there banned ones
because they're associated withlike bad shit, like or shit that
they don't want people seeing,like conspiracy theories and
(19:10):
stuff.
Oh, I got you Like, if likeflat earth is probably banned, a
banned hashtag.
I don't see shit like that on.
Well, yeah, that's why it's bad.
It's bad content.
Yeah, it's not going to get it'sgoing to get, yeah, yeah, so
it's because you know they theyand they and they keep changing
and they keep changing their youknow their their things on like
(19:32):
conspiracy theories and stuffand that's.
But like UFO theory is is moreplausible.
So they can't really sayanything because, like the
government, not just now youknow what I mean, I mean and I
think there's like when peopleare starting to talk about like
stuff.
That's obviously conspiracytheory like bladder.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, you know what I'm saying.
When it gets out of hand,you're like okay, yeah, I'm done
for certain things, but fair,like I said, all the earth and
right, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, I don't know, bro, because we were talking
about last week, that's.
You know.
I'm saying we're talking aboutwhat lies beneath the ocean.
The ocean, yes, well, you knowwhat it is also, and I'm sure
there are caverns that we talkabout it like is it like we're
talking about now?
Maybe is real, maybe it's not,but like they don't want people
who are like flood, earth isreal right?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
yeah, you just don't want to promote that.
Yeah, you know what?
It is right, people.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
If people are like oh , maybe it could be, yeah you
know, like it's, you know like.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What if?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I'm saying like, like , there is no, what if?
No, but I'm saying like we'retalking about like, like he was
like hollow earth, maybe youknow but, like.
It's more like, but it's the Ithink there were.
There are concerns of peoplewho are like it is and that is
the truth.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
There is a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Not like where we're like well, maybe.
You know like these are peoplethat are like no, it's real.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You're being lied to.
I got it in a vision.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I guess Imean I don't guess, I know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Right, yeah, but the social media, that's the whole
thing.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's also what you don't want to get into, too,
right, you don't want to getinto that, because the problem
is that that shit spreads whenpeople are like this is how we
do it, and I don't do that, Idon't just conform to whoever
listen, I'm going to be myself.
That's the whole idea of havingsocial media right man and you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But I finally, you know, yeah, not exactly no, no
no, but you're learning bro, andyou're paying.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I'm trying, I'm trying to get things out.
Yeah, the only thing I'mgetting creative, I'm thinking
of stuff and I'm like oh, thisis cool.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Let me write this down.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, I need to learn how to do, like you said.
Well, what tom showed usearlier, you know, um, I want to
, you know, say, put the videostogether.
You know, do like the headshots, like you were doing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, talking headshots and shit
.
Oh yeah yeah, they call thattalking head videos when you're
talking, right?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, that's like Like I want to do those.
So that's the whole thing.
You know there's so much andthere'll always be more, because
they keep adding things youknow and or you share those
videos with us.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I go right to it, listen to it, and then I try it,
and then I do it and you'll seevideos of people saying like
TikTok likes when you pushcontent forward or when you use
their new content.
What they mean by TikTok likesit is that the algorithm favors
the new features.
If there's a new feature out,use the hell out of it, because
(22:18):
it's going to get more viewsthan regular, because the
algorithm favors new shit.
Yeah Right.
So that's why they always sayjump on the trends, Right.
I do so if there's like a new,new thing out, like and people
are using it a lot, or if it's anew feature, like specifically
from the app, like the new oneis the text feature, do this, do
that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You just follow exactly what they say.
The new one is the text feature.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
They're like really pushing that now and it's good.
It doesn't get a lot of views,though.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And it's mostly a lot of women.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It gets they're the ones who know more shit than
anybody.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, so then, sorry, it gets a-.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh yeah, go ahead, they have it down.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I'm saying it doesn't go, your text views won't go
viral, but they do get a lot ofviews right away, Like 60, 70,
boom right off the bat.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
So then, are those people that are promoting them,
so the videos that we've beenseeing when we first opened up
our page?
Are those people just thecommercial actors, if that makes
any sense?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, so they're content creators that talk about
tech talk.
There's content creators, theirwhole like shit is like how to
get your thing viral, how to goviral, how to do this.
That's all they talk about.
That's insane.
But tech talks like, oh, that'sgood for us, right and but that
, that.
But people have figured outthat.
(23:36):
So now there's like a lot ofaccounts that are doing this
because, figured out, it's likethere's this thing like where
the algorithm figured it out andpeople figured out that the so,
like, but now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's always an awkward situation.
It purposely yeah, it happens.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Like, but it knows when you're like, if like, if
you're getting like low views,you start getting videos.
Are you struggling with lowviews?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We got this solution for you.
It's like the future is comingto fucking.
It's so far.
It's coming to.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's AI we think of AI as something you talk to,
but AI is an algorithm, is AI.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
There's no difference .
It's a type of AI.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It's self-thinking and it's scary, but at the same
time it's pretty amazing becauseof all the things you can do
right, you can look up and, and,and you know, just ask
questions about certain thingsand get the answer immediately.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
yeah, you know I don't know, man, I'm scared.
I I mean we said before and I'mnot scared in the sense of,
like you know, of, uh, of mydaughter's gonna take over.
I'm scared, I mean, we said itbefore and I'm not scared in the
sense of, like you know, of mydaughter's going to take over
the world.
I'm scared of, like, wherepeople are going to.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
People are using it yeah, too much, you know what
I'm saying or people are usingit maliciously.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Well, they're doing that already, I mean yeah.
Well, I mean, there's a lot ofthat going on.
You know what I'm saying.
So that then it's like you said, if there's certain hashtags
that are banned, it's becausepeople would just, you know,
going straight for them.
Listen, I love a greatconspiracy theory.
You know I'm upset that.
You know there's issues withthe conspiracy.
(25:06):
I think again, like you startedto say before, they're fun to
watch.
Why, but not to?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I love reading about them because they're fun to read
.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Basically, they're religion.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yep, yep, they're fun to read, I love.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think it's so fun to watch the Flounder videos.
I'm just but like I don't likebelieve them.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'm like yeah you guys are fucking hilarious.
Like well, so not, you know,not changing up altogether Tura.
No, yeah, right, so Jesse had aconspiracy show, yeah, and all
of a sudden you know like hisconspiracies just got.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, he was a Navy SEAL.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But they and so this day he still does and he lives
off the grid, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And that guy's no joke, but I wouldn't.
Yeah, hell.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
No, he knows the predator right, let me tell you,
man, he knows his stuff thoughbecause when he talks about
certain things, but we shouldget off that subject, right
right, let's go back to what wewere talking about.
I'm saying, like you know justthose are different things where
they cut people off.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, but he's a perfect example of like what
you're saying.
You know Absolutely that thenthey would cut off those
conspiracy theories and you knowcertain funnies.
I believe that you know I likethe idea of us making funnies
off of a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
For us to make a meme .
You know a little video orwhatever off of a funny.
You know what we find to be afunny conspiracy theory.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you said, flat earth.
You know it'd be cool to havelike in the.
You know the background videoand we're doing like this with
the car and it just falls offthe edge of the you know of the
earth and space.
You know what I'm saying.
Like some kind of crackheadlooking stupid shit like that.
Like it'd just be like a funnymaking a funny up for that.
(26:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Right, right, right.
Like that's something I'd sayhollow earth.
You know that then we wouldturn into the ocean because
we're looking for the giantsquid and all of a sudden, you
know we're like standing inhollow earth you know what I'm
saying when there's dinosaursand shit like that, or just the
(27:05):
whole like I said to me thatwould be a funny ass you know
thing, because doing that ageVentura, like you know what I
mean, like looking all over theplace, you know what I mean.
Like that's, that's where I'm at.
You know, for some of thosethings you know and and and and
said.
But the social media, as far asyou know what's trending.
How do we know what's trendingwhen you know what I'm saying?
(27:28):
Because if we're getting opensup the TikTok that, then the
first thing that he's seeing ishey, try this, hey, try that.
So by the time you get throughthe next 10 videos of try this,
try that.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
If he sends or saves, because that's what you did the
last one you sent to me, yousent me the video.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
It's always the first video and then you saved it.
It's always the first video,one of those videos, and then
you go on to like your entry andI went and watched it and I did
what it said to do and I madethat Right.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I had all the pictures moving.
I just let it tried it out tosee how it was.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But those help videos , those like tech help, like
it's always the first video whenyou turn on your phone Like
they're trying to tell you likethey're.
It's purposely, they're like,really they're like.
This is what you need to do youknow what you're trying to do is
what you need to do.
This is what you need to do toget.
If you weren't posting anyvideos, you won't get those
videos.
(28:28):
If you haven't like, postedanything, you're just there to
watch videos, you'll never getthose videos.
But if you start posting videosand they're getting low, like
low views, sends them out to youright away.
Yeah, yeah I want.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I said I I had to start doing those and I'm sure
when you, start getting into thehigher categories, it starts
sending you other videos to help.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Well we're already making.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
If you look at the phone and you look at it, we're
already making where you can goin and you've already made and
did enough to open this thing.
And oh yeah, oh yeah, it tellsyou the brackets in and you've
already made and did enough toopen this thing.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And oh yeah, oh yeah, it tells you your brackets,
like oh, you've reached 100followers, you can meet the next
bracket 1,000 followers rightnow with tiktok, it used to be
that you need a thousandfollowers to go live, but now
it's now, it's.
Now it's 100, I think sorry,but.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Sorry but I apologize , yeah, and then.
So now on, because that saidthat.
So then, when is it that weturn around?
And what's the algorithm?
I guess we'll say for you tothen turn around and that you
become a, or the status, thatyou end up becoming the content
creator that now you're, youknow what I'm saying Like right
(29:37):
now.
It's us, you know we'repromoting and doing things or
influencers and stuff like that,you know whether it's either
that you're either making moneyor you know that you're able to
to do different kinds of uh,selling promotions and such.
You know what I mean.
That makes sense to thequestion, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I just doing.
Well, what happens is slow andwe're getting into it.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
When you start getting a lot of views and
that's that's the thing just gowith.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
The advertisers want eyes so that if you're getting
consistently high view countsand you have a lot of followers,
that's when they startmessaging you they'll start
messaging like if we startgetting like.
So if we start getting like abig following on our is, you
know, in our our instagram, ortiktok, whatever, whatever my
and we're getting consistentlythousands of views.
(30:27):
People are going to startmessaging us be, like, hey, you
want to, we'll send you thisfree product.
Try it out.
If you can do a video of it forus, it would be.
You know, as long as you do avideo for us, you know,
promoting the product, just tryit out, you know, like that's,
that's what happens?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
yeah, yeah, it just can't be a hair product.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah but that's what I see.
Just listen, we're, we tookthat, you know, we said all
right, we got to take it to thenext level when we're doing that
and we're figuring out things,and then, as it, it will just
present itself when it'ssupposed to.
You know what I mean, right?
I think there's no, no reason,no need to push.
It will just present itselfwhen it's supposed to.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Right, I think there's no need to push it or
just go on.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know what's the expression where they say you
know just stay forward and yeah,yeah, I know what you're
talking about, you know, butstill, with that, it's us doing
the funnies, that or what wefind funny.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That, then you know that we should do all that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's what I'm saying.
Just keep doing what we'redoing.
Just keep yeah it doesn'tmatter, you think of it and it's
funny, make something up.
Yeah, and then if you don't,you just give that guy a ring
and he'll walk you through it inlike 2.3 minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, no, no, yeah, and everybody you know they want
to message us on TikTok orwhatever.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I tell you I'm having fun because figuring out stuff
that I feel like, all right, I'mactually capable of doing this,
because it's like learningsoftware, right, it literally is
like when I learned Canva andeverything.
Now I can actually sit down and, yes, I have Canva and I go
through it.
Yeah, I can navigate through itnow, which I didn't know, but
(32:00):
until I sat down and I havecanva and I go through it.
Yeah, I can navigate through itnow, which I didn't know, but
until I sat down.
And, of course, I thank god formy wife because she helped me
walk me through some things.
But you know now that I can.
Just that's how I'm feelingabout this, where I'm going in
that direction it's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I've always been the type of person where I just
figure it out, like I just playwith the app and figure it out,
and that's how I figure it out,and you're right, cause that's
what you gotta do.
Otherwise, if you're too, youjust mess with it and understand
it Like yeah, like, and youknow, like the same thing I was
talking to you about.
Well, like the description part, like a lot of people pass that
up, like, who skip thedescription part, and like the
(32:36):
whole description part's themost important part, because
that shows you, because thatwhat that does is that if you
don't put a description, itdoesn't know where to send
videos to so it just like goes.
It's like throwing a ball up inthe air let's just spread it
around so the hashtags aren't,don't help put you into, I mean
the hashtags are helpful too,but I mean the actual like
(32:58):
wording in the description helpsthe.
It's the seo, that's the wordthey use, the I think that's
what the word for the algorithmis that they use seo, which is
the search, search engineoptimization.
So, like, whenever you put liketext in a video, even the
captions, if you use the livecaptions, those live captions
(33:20):
it's always.
That's another thing always toturn those on it's in the edit
screen.
I could, I'll show you guys.
I did, but anyway, you when youturn the live captions on.
That actually sends the seomore information for your videos
.
So that's why the captions arealways important too, because
once it translates that and hasthe text on screen, all your
(33:41):
words are now like thealgorithms right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So it'll push it out to yeah, right, yeah.
See, look at, look, who'slooking.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But also, if you got stuff that I say no, no, but
also if, if it's got stuff thatthe algorithm doesn't like,
it'll kick you out.
Yeah, like.
That's why now we use the wordon a live that's why you gotta
be creative.
That came from tech talkbecause people didn't want to
use words.
I'm not even going to saybecause I'm worried yeah, yeah,
yeah, right, but I feel like wegot someone getting.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, yeah, you know you know an unnatural effect?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
yeah, so that's where the word came from, oh, wow,
that's funny, even people sayinstead of you know, they say
someone got pew pewed yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it, bro,
that's, but that's all, that'sall that all came from tech talk
.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's wild.
That on the live yeah, is theword that came from.
That was a workaround.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Right.
Wow, that's funny.
Someone unalive themselves.
Yeah, yeah, someone got unalive.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's not cool.
Yeah, you know like that's howit, because you can't say
certain words.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That's freaking crazy .
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know I'm for you know all that and I think that's
good to police it, becauseyou've been now we just found
new words, yeah.
But I get it, but but still it.
It curved it to a point whereyou knew not to say or do a
certain thing, on this,otherwise it was going to be,
you know, right, right, right.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So in a way, it's good to have those kinds of
rules set.
You know, I think that's a goodidea.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But I feel like that word unalive is probably now.
The algorithm probably knowsthat word anyway, of course.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
But does it only know a word or does it know like a
sentence?
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Context.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
It knows context Right?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I guess it depends on how you say it.
Maybe back then it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Maybe now it probably knows context better, well,
everything, because AI isgetting smarter and smarter, but
it's how you say it.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
It's how you say it, like right now you were
explaining it isn't, you know,isn't speaking on it, right?
That's true.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You know what I mean, right.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So in the context, that's why you'll notice, if you
watch some people's videos, ifthey say a word that's bad.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
the subtitles Blank it out.
They'll put like a funny word,or they'll put something else in
, or they'll blank it out, orlike a little horn, or something
, or non-sequitur.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
So then, what about cuss words?
Because you know we do a littlebit of cussing up in here here
for opus clip.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I always sleep it out .
I choose the mute sensor justbecause for social media, just
in case.
I mean because if there's, ifthere, if it is censored, if you
self-censor, it does like wordsthat do have profanity to get
less views that's funny becauseso many things.
I mean some but like, but somedon't.
So that's why I don't know it'slike, it's like again.
That's why it's always likepeople aren't sure because
(36:43):
there's no rule, but like peopledo notice.
Like I think, if it's comedy,oh it doesn't okay, it doesn't
get messed with, right that, butif it's someone like talking
doing a talking head video andserious and like it's and I'm
border's, I think it doesunderstand tone somehow.
I don't know how, because ifit's, if it's comical, I know
(37:04):
it's like yeah, I'm sure I canget all that.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Well, that's a lie detector, like a lie detector
test.
You know some of them now, thenewer ones, you know when you
speak it tells a difference inyour tone of voice and whatnot.
So you know Because, like Isaid, there's this one dude that
I've seen a few times on socialmedia.
I got to get to him and followhis because he's a Gen Xer and
it's freaking hilarious becausehe'll say something like he'll
(37:27):
show a little clip of somethingyou know that is happening now.
He's like we did that shit backin the day.
Are you fucking kidding?
Like you know what I'm saying?
Like Are you fucking kidding?
Like you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Like he'll do those things and it's the tone Right
and how he's using it in asentence yeah, I don't find it
necessary to do it if I don'thave to.
You know, I don't mind if itbleeps it out Right, right,
right, right but if I sharesomething like well you know how
sometimes it gives you theaudio and you can search it and
say sometimes it bleeps it outautomatically, even if that is
(37:57):
already in the sentence.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Well, like your post.
You know that you were out onthe porch with your couple of
coffee.
It didn't bleep that one out,that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, but see, that was common and that was funny.
Right, it has to be common.
It cannot be.
Yeah, Right.
So what Tom just said makes not.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, it's not like you turn around and you're
walking up because it doesmatter of fact, and you know me
thinking about it now.
So you see, every once in awhile I'll get a fight video you
know somebody's fighting, orwhatever and they'll start
cussing while they're in there.
Come here you, I'm going tobeat you up.
You know what I mean?
That all the video?
(38:40):
Yeah, right, that makes sense,but if it's, funny, they'll let
it rock right.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That makes sense, bro .
Wow, when they.
I think it knows that, I thinkit knows that, the shit, you
know what though I think itknows that people aren't
bothered by curse words if it'sfunny right yeah, it does that
if it's funny, yeah because itknows that yeah, it knows, it
probably knows just based on theview count yes and you know
what's funny it probably ifpeople are like cursing at each
other.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Real nasty yeah people go.
I don't want to watch that well, but if it's funny they go.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
That makes sense they watch the video.
Yeah wow, yeah, because youever see, you ever see that
husband and wife play thepractical jokes on one another,
which with it the balloon dropson their head.
Do you know what I justrealized?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It's probably not even a rule.
The curse words are probablynot even a rule.
It's probably just thealgorithm saying hey no people
not wanting to watch the videoif it's nasty and they're
cursing.
But if it's funny, people watchit.
I just answered my questionbefore I said if it's like nasty
and they're cursing.
But if it's funny, people watchit.
I just answered my questionbefore.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
If it's funny, people watch the video.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
If it's not funny, people are cursing.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, if it's awful, that's freaking great.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
So it's probably not even a rule, it's probably just
the algorithm.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Which is not a bad thing, the violent ones.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
There used to be a whole bunch of violent ones on
social media, because if peopleare not watching the video to
the end, then it doesn't getpushed out.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, If I see stuff I don't like, I go right by it,
man.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But then that also makes sense with the videos.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Everything's a viewing system.
The algorithm knows how.
Also, that's the scary part.
It knows how long you view apost.
Yeah right, I remember youtelling us that before a while
back, and that's even withFacebook, with the videos it
makes more sense because it'sthe view, but it knows if you
watch the video to the end ornot.
So if you watch the video tothe end, it knows that the
(40:27):
content is good.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, Because I remember seeing, like I watched
the funny videos of peoplegetting hurt.
So what I mean is is, like youknow, somebody falling, you know
, down the ladder because theyput the extension ladder and the
ladder collapsed.
You know what I'm saying?
People are walking on the iceand like they're slipping and
they bust their ass.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
They slide down the driveway, they slide down the
driveway, Dude that one.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
There's a couple of them that are hilarious and
apparently too.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Like you can fast forward the video.
What, if you want?
I mean, oh, yes, edge of thescreen right on above the, where
the heart button is.
Okay, it'll fast forward andthat's fine if you watch the
video at the end even fastforward, it's fine.
Yeah, so like if I likesomeone's content and I want to
make yeah make sure that theystay.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
I make sure I watch it to the end, but I'll hold the
two times x button to let it gothrough but jesus christ yeah,
that's right, I didn't figurethis one.
I'm gonna give you propsanyways, right, yeah, no, no,
that does.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's cool, that makes sense, there's this whole
science behind it, which iscrazy, you know, and how it has
its own life of its own, youknow, and it just figures out
and goes a certain direction,you know.
But it's interesting, it's.
You know.
At first, you know, I didn'twant to be bothered, but since
we've been doing this and werealized social media, you need
to be out there and you have todo it.
(41:39):
So we just said, all right,let's do it.
And I'm actually enjoying it.
I'm not making a habit out ofit in the sense where I'm
addicted to it.
I got to be on it all the timebut when I think of something, I
go on and I just do it.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
You know, a lot of people now use it for their
search engine.
I know it's weird, but likeokay, if you want to find out
about like six flags greatadventure, say, if you type in
six flags, great adventure.
Oh, yeah to tiktok.
You're gonna get like videos ofthe roller coaster, it's better
than looking at it on.
Why would you want?
to google it, yeah, it's gonnashow you like everything
someone's experience, so peopledo that now.
Even restaurants.
People look up restaurants onTikTok, right, and they see the
(42:22):
food and people post on them andit's more authentic.
I mean, I mean, there's somepeople probably paid to post,
but like you're still getting,like you're getting way better
than a website, well, that's,you're getting way better than a
website.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Right, that's insane.
That's funny as hell.
Well, because more people arelooking at it, right off the bat
, you know people are seeing it.
So when we went down toYardhouse- yeah.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
And it feels like we were there yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
So people now see it, because then that's the hashtag
and now people are like oh,he's been the Location Exactly.
So you know what I mean,because I tagged the location
when we went.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, Right right.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, because we never go anywhere besides our-.
Yeah, yeah, right here.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Besides the Crawford Studios.
Crawford Studios, I like it,that's awesome man.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
I think that that's one thingthat any of our viewers and
listeners decide that they wantto do.
Whatever you know contentcreators or you know anything,
you know that it's, you knowwhen, how time, you know that
you put it on and you know, juststay real to yourself, man.
(43:29):
You know girls, women, you know.
Stay true to yourself.
Do what you feel.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
No, listen, if you have an idea, right, yeah, run
with it, run with it.
Run with it because we're herenow.
You have that.
We had, they had.
We didn't have that.
When we were growing up, wedidn't write that.
It's kids, you know now you cando it you know your imagination
can, just, you know, if you areopen to it and figure it out
all right yeah, like this isjust make you make some crazy
(43:55):
stuff.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah, this is like being a radio host, you, you
know what I'm saying, like onour own radio station.
Yeah, the podcast, the podcast.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, but I was thinking more of the TikTok
stuff.
Oh, the TikTok, I'm sorry,tiktok, you can yeah, oh, dude.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
But you know it's probably better.
We didn't have it when we werekids, Because you know I
disagree.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I think if we did, we would have been way ahead.
Oh, definitely, we would havepicked this shit up immediately,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Like we picked up everything else.
Well, yeah, All right, so weweren't idiots.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Oh, no, not that we weren't idiots and we weren't
ignorant to the fact that wewere just funny.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
That's the funny stuff.
Yeah, well, you're going to dothat shit anyway.
Then you were doing super shit,right?
And then I wish each generationat least the way I look at it.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah, I'm with you.
That makes sense, but with that, my peoples.
Thank y'all for watching, thanky'all for listening.
Thank you, gentlemen, for beinghere with me.
I love you guys.
Man, I appreciate you every day.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Love peace and hair grease live long and prosper,
and may the force be with you oh, and may the force be with you.
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