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Have you ever caught yourself mindlessly scrolling through your phone for hours, suddenly jolting to awareness with the thought, "I need to put this thing down"? That moment of clarity about our relationship with technology is exactly what sparked our conversation in this episode.

We dive deep into our collective dependency on smartphones and how these devices have evolved from simple communication tools into extensions of ourselves. From watching sports on a cruise ship balcony at 3 AM to seeing people glued to screens at historical sites, we explore how phones have infiltrated every corner of our lives. The conversation moves beyond simple complaints about screen time to examine how fundamentally our behavior, relationships, and even our cognitive processes have changed because of these devices.

The discussion takes fascinating turns as we contemplate the evolution of technology—remembering when computers were our primary digital interfaces and how quickly smartphones supplanted them. We share personal strategies for creating boundaries, from vacation "phone-in-safe" approaches to setting firm cutoff times in the evening. What emerges is a nuanced look at both the incredible benefits of having instant information access and the psychological toll of constant connectivity.

Perhaps most compelling is our exploration of where technology might lead us next. We reference science fiction films like WALL-E, Terminator, and Idiocracy, noting how many past sci-fi concepts are already reality. From augmented reality glasses to neural interfaces, we question whether humanity is prepared for what comes after smartphones—and whether we'll have any say in the matter.

Ready to examine your own relationship with technology? Listen now, then try putting your phone down for a while. Your brain might thank you for the break.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Cotman, crawford and the Jersey Guy podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I know it's funny.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
No, it's good.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
All right, all right.
How's everybody doing today?

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Good, good, we're doing pretty good Doing all,
right man Doing all right,excellent, you go ahead, brother
, yours today, your topic.
Oh, it's everybody's topicreally, because we talked about
it between one another, right?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
right right.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
I brought it up already as far as cell phones
are going.
And people are starting to payattention now more than they did
before, that how much timethey're spending on their phone,
right, right, yeah, and I'mSteve there you go, let me get
to it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
No, we're just busting on Lou today.
Oh man, we're messing with Loutoday.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Anyway, yeah, no, love it, steve, I was getting
All right, my bad.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, we've been messing with you, bro.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was funny, that was a good one.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Uh-oh, oh man, too funny, too funny, so yes, so
today's topic how people justwell, I don't know, it's cell
phones, right, it's on a cellphone.
How much time do you spend onyour cell phone?
Think about it?
Do you ever say to yourself Igot to put this fucking thing
down, I want this thing forever.
Right now, right, scrollingthrough shit and sharing and

(01:15):
whatever, like you just getconsumed with it almost.
You know it's crazy, but atleast if you have the, you know
the right thought to say toyourself the wealth for all.
Is that the right thing to say?
To say to yourself okay, I'mgonna put this down and walk
away for oh yeah, I was, and notfucking touch my phone.
You know I do that, I'll go.

(01:35):
All right, I'm done, I'll comedownstairs, I'll do something
different.
You know, just so I'm.
You know, because you, you,actually, if you're paying
attention to it, I think you,you're at least that's a good
thing.
I think, more so than mostpeople think, about people who
are really on it?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You don't even pay attention to how often they use
their phone.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, that's true, but don't they have a thing on
their phones now where you cansee how much time you spend,
they do, it'll give you thatreading.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
You can actually go on your phone now and it'll tell
you how much you used orwhatever, really, but you can
actually have it, give youalerts, gotcha or caps.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
That's right yeah, I've had.
I think it was Instagram at onepoint.
Still does it where they tellyou, hey, it's time for downtime
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, that's what it was, and then to like to put it
down.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Put your phone down and walk away and give yourself
a little, you know rest.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Oh shit, I didn't even know they had it on
Instagram.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Which is actually a good thing to do when you know
if a company's doing that, theyshould probably be doing it a
little bit more often.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
But you know.
So, like for me, I have my cellphone, so I have a work cell
phone and I need it I'm nottalking about the work cell
phone.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm talking about process, like, like I was
telling you before, we were youknow, we're on vacation we were
in, we were walking in the, theroman forum and which is, you
know, thousands a year old stuffthat needs to be watched and
protected and they haveemployees there to make sure
that people don't go in certainplaces.
And we're walking up one thingand there's a worker sitting

(03:10):
there like this Wow, sittingthere on the phone Just not
paying attention to anybody.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
No, that shouldn't be allowed, you know stuff like
that.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Or yeah, I've seen, I've seen cops on their cell
phones.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, so the funny.
I'm sorry, go ahead, bro, nothat's just the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Everybody is preoccupied with this thing
Because the funny I had asked acop.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Matter of fact, remember, we had Officer
Hightower here.
Yes, we talked to him and heturned around and he was saying
he had said to me before, not onthat particular show, right,
police officers on their phones,right, you ready, you ready.
It's because they're networkingwith the other police.
Oh yeah, sure, exactly, becauseeverybody's got a scanner.

(03:50):
Well, not everybody, but youknow, some bad guys have the
scanner so they can hear they'retalking on the walk on the
radios and stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
So then that's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, it's believable to busted for something you're
not supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
You're not supposed to do it.
I was a fireman for a volunteerfarm for a while and you know
you had scanners, everybody hadscanners.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Police and fire and ambulance.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, you know everything that's going on,
Right, right and that's so.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Then but I guess what we're saying for that too.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
You can even get like , and then you're back to being
stuck on your phone.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right Again it's another thing to be honest,
Because you can get an app foryour remote control for your TV,
for the Roku.
I have the Roku remote on myphone.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, because it comes in utility too.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Right yeah, Remember how you used to use a computer
before the cell phone was reallythe way it is now.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Oh yeah, because the cell phone is literally a
computer.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
That's what it is right.
Think about information.
Yep, we used to be on thecomputer more than we were on
the phone, and then it justgradually went the other way.
How often do you go on yourcomputer, unless it's for work?
That's different, but I'msaying personally.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I do my billing on my computer.
Other than that, most stuff Ido on my phone.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Right you.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Point right.
So you point point mate, yeahright what were you saying?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
no, I was saying, like, certain videos I like to
watch on the computer, right,yeah, gotcha, we won't make fun
of that.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's always something right there's always
something that is like the nextthing.
It's like oh, social media hasyou on your phone all the time.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Right and now it's like oh, now it's like ai like
chat gpt and stuff like that nowyou're like using that a lot
you know, but now when you speakthough to chat gpt or you're
looking that stuff up is itreally you being quote unquote
on your phone for like socialmedia, or is it you, you know,
getting?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
information, but you can use chat gpt for different
things.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Some people that's what I'm saying I say I use it
for story writing.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right, you know I like write stories or like read
stories.
Right you can have it makestories if you want to do like
fan fiction, right, okay, so Iuse it for that until I use it
as a reader app.
Yeah, so you know.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Wow, so that's what I'm saying.
So being on your phone, likeyou're saying, or like when you
speak to chat GBT, I'm sayingRight, right, would that be
considered you being on your?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
phone.
Well, the phone is the object,the object the phone is the
computer Right?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Well, the phone is not.
Where else are you getting itto?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
work.
The phone is the center ofeverything.
Right, we're using it so muchmore.
So, in order to use chat, gbbt,whether you're you're looking
at pictures, whether you'retexting somebody, like like,
everything revolves around right, yeah, around the phone,
because it's your mobilecomputer so there's no more like
you don't have to set thedesktop.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
You know I'm saying you're not using desktop
microphone to turn them on andspeak to chat right to turn
around and do all those thingsthat you would have to do or be
able to do on your phone.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
yeah, but what the crazy part is is, like now, like
more than ever, we're likebombarded with, like
advertisements oh yeah becauseeverything's got ads in them,
right, why so?
Like, and that was never likethat before it's for control man
tv, you know like a billboardor a magazine always had right
in it.
But it's just like everythingyou use now has like ads in it,

(07:05):
right.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But because we're not watching TV regular TV as much.
So now they have to pay to dotheir advertising on social
media.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
So then you're looking at your phone, so you're
looking at the games that youplay.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
You're looking at the social media that there's ads
in there.
People on social media are alsonow I'm going to say it nicely
entrepreneurs, so they're tryingto sell and push their stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
That's what everybody's doing now.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right.
So that then.
That's why all the ads you knowwhat I mean.
I mean that's where I would gowith it.
I do say in the middle of someof the games that it's you know
too much you know.
But at least on the socialmedia you could just kind of
scroll through.
What is it that would then makeit too?

Speaker 4 (07:48):
much the time that you spend on it, regardless of
what you're looking at and whatyou're doing, because you're
still using that device to watchwhatever or listen to or use
for whatever reason.
So it's the fact that, okay,yeah, that's not a bad thing
because what you were doing waspretty productive, and all that
other stuff, the way I look atit.
But what about all the othershit you just got done, doing

(08:09):
while you were on the fuckingphone, and now you're doing that
?
So I'm saying it's the timenecessarily, not necessarily the
work that you're doing.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
It makes us too accessible.
Right Is what it is.
We're too accessible.
We don't have.
You know it's not the old oh,don't answer the phone, or don't
?
You know I'm going out?
You know you go out.
Used to be, you went out andyou'd come back home and there'd
be voicemails or something likethat.
But now you know, depending onwhat you do with your phone, if

(08:46):
you leave it on.
You don't put on, do not disturb.
You are accessible 24, 7, 365days a year, and not just to the
important people.
Like you know, I shut my phoneoff at night but and the only
ones now who can get through tome are my or my wife and kids.
You know, up until the otherday, before my kids went back to
school, nobody called me atnight, because we were all in
the same house right, yeah,exactly about it now now I use
it there, but huh.
But if you don't put your phoneunder, not disturb, anybody can

(09:06):
call you.
Anybody from work can call you.
Anybody from a social group cancall you.
Telemarketers can call you.
Your doctor's office can callyou at any point in time.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Spam Telemarketers right, okay.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
So then now here's my question for you.
I don't answer the phone, sothen I would just turn around,
like let's just say if it's, youknow, if it's work, and it's
after eight o'clock at night,I'm just, you know, hitting the
the thing off, but you're stillpicking it up.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's still, it's still, you're still accessible.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, because I look at social media stuff on my
phone.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
So some things you probably have to make, don't
spend as much time on thosethings that you're like, your
entertainment stuff, like.
In other words, instead ofbeing on there for two hours
straight, you know, and I'm justusing an example, you know, cut
it down to an hour and a half,or you know, it's the same thing

(10:07):
, it's just a big yeah of ofconnecting the tablets, just
you're connecting usually ofyour phone anyway
right just a bigger screen or achromebook they're all yeah, but
everything everything's syncednow, so yeah okay and I get what
you're saying, because thestuff you're saying is is stuff
that you need to get done andyou're able to do it and has the

(10:27):
accessibility to be able to doit because it's easy and quick
and that's great, but then whenyou have all the other stuff
that you've been doing beforethat or whatever, it's like you
don't have a break.
You're constantly, it's part ofyou.
It's like oh wait, yeah, Ididn't miss it.
Two minutes later you're like Idon't some people anyway.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
But it is just wild what you were saying, steve.
You were saying that wholeyou're accessible.
The only way you're notaccessible is literally by
turning a device on.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
do not disturb, otherwise anybody can reach you
at any time you can't even watcha movie on your phone or play
games on your phone, because ifyour phone is on, I can get you
yeah, right, and I'll interrupt.
You may ignore it, but I still,I have interrupted your zen
right, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, okay right I could see that
it's wild though, but then allbecause our devices make us that

(11:17):
way.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
So what would be the solution?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
just being aware of it, think and working on it.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Blowing up the internet.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, no, because even us, at our age, we've all
become dependent on, you know,being able to find that stuff
For us.
You know well, even to you, we,you know, it was like
encyclopedia I love theaccessibility to all that stuff
For the information.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
It's great.
The information is amazing.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Like from following.
You know sports scores nomatter where you are or even
just like I don't know if itever happens to you guys, but I
get like these random things popin my head like oh, who was in
that movie?
Oh yeah, let me look it up, andI can't think of it absolutely
and so I just yeah, I just lookit up and oh okay, it was that
person right because like go toBlockbuster and then find the
person and then no, but I usedto call my mom, oh, I used to

(12:04):
call my mom about hilarious bro,hey mom

Speaker 4 (12:06):
who was in this movie , oh yeah she knew all that
stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I could do that with my parents as well.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
They my mom knew all that stuff right, because that's
all that they watched.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
like there's things.
Now that I know that the wifewould turn around who was in
da-da-da-da, I'm like, oh yeah,it was da-da-da-da.
She's like how do you know thisMusic?
You and I always talk aboutthat with music, with the vibes,
even with the movies I do itwith.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
I'm like how, yeah, if I see a movie, come on and I
get to it and it'll say it'sGladiator and it's before, and I
, just before he says it, she'slike what the hell?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
it's pathetic, but you know what's funny I?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
love it.
I watched Groundhog's Day theother day.
Oh, there you go.
I watched Groundhog's.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Day.
So I was like, alright, let'swatch it, but now you can go on
the internet with your phone andfind that and watch it songs.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, dude, do you know how many?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
times like Lou and I will sit or whatever, and we'll
say something, and joey at work,and we'll just turn around and
well, even with you you actuallydo this shit a lot too that
will say a song, that will saysomething and you oh, that's the
song.
And then you'll go to the songor to the movie.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Quote, right where it came from.
Yeah, I get.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I get random people, pictures of people that pop in
my head like people like went tolike elementary school right so
we're talking.
We're talking like 50 years ago.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Who I wasn't friends with.
Right Like, had nothing to dowith him after after that Right
right, but like it'll pop in myhead and I remember their name
and I go on Facebook and say,you know, put Dude and look them
up.
George Foreman, you know, likeBro.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
And it's yeah, it's just yeah.
No, it's just like things justfly out.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, you know, like just random events.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, over the course of your lifetime just and I
only have, I guess we'll saythose kind of thoughts for maybe
movies you know.
Songs not so much you knowbecause the song, I don't know
who sings it, only because youknow I'm music.
But just sometimes like, oh, Iknow that guy from the other
movie All day baby there you goyou see, yeah, exactly.

(14:09):
So you know that's where I'm at.
You know movies are questioned.
I'm like shit.
I know that guy from something.
I forget the person's name.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
I did that.
The other there was the womanwho was playing a lawyer Excuse
me, it was taking oversuits andshe was from like the like, the,
some place where she was legalRight.
And she was from?
Yeah, she was from Star TrekNext generation.
Oh, she was.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Oh seven and.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I figured it out.
No, it was a different woman,okay.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Excuse me, I apologize.
She was on something that I sawof the movie recently too.
I was like it's seven yeahexactly, and that's what it said
.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Then, like you said, these are the things that we get
off of our phone, right, right.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, now.
Well, that's what I do.
I go right to IMDb.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I go to IMDb.
Go to the app, I go.
Who's this actor, who's that?
So now it's.
You know, right now it's stillthe end of summer for us.
Kids are getting ready to getback to school.
Whatever Do you find yourselfputting your phones down more
over the summer than you do inthe winter.
Now you're locked up in thehouse.
You know what I'm saying andit's all.
You know.
It's cold outside.
You're not going to go out.
You know what do you do now?

(15:23):
You're either stuck in front ofthe boot tube or you're on your
phone, yeah, you know what I'msaying.
Or on your tablet.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Like you don't go while the TV's on and you're on
your phone, right, right, yeah,see, I found myself putting it
down.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I've done that too, and then I'd be like, okay, I
gotta do one or the other.
I can't do both only becauseI'm playing games, because I got
the gaming stuff, so I'm on mytablet usually.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Right, yeah, because you're going blind and you have
to grab an inspector.
But then.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
So I put that down and I try to.
You know like I'm watching TV.
You know when we're havingdinner we'll turn around and you
know, turn everything off andit's just us sitting there, you
know having a conversation orwhatever.
You know yelling at each otherbecause we did some dumb shit
during the day.
You know, whatever it was, youknow what I mean.
But and I said I've tried tomake it my business to you know,

(16:10):
make it a thing.
No, we're putting the phonesdown, or I'm putting my phone
down.
At least you know what I'msaying and you know that's not
going to happen.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Do you do that in your house?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I do you do so like the funny.
You mean yes, okay, for me Ihave to, because it's that's
what I'm saying, I do the samething.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'll actually literally say, hey, I got it,
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, because there's just so much info that's coming
in.
You know what I'm saying andit's like, well, I got to take a
break from this because I foundmyself getting freaking.
I had Ajna.
Like this is like are thesepeople that you just have an
anxiety?
Yeah, because it was just somany things that were going on
and everything.
You know, all this info thatI'm getting, I'm like I can't

(16:48):
believe this shit?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, especially social media, like if you're
doom scrolling like, that's justlike.
So now, okay.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
So now when I go on social media, I'm all about the
funnies, funnies, cars andmotorcycles in the context of
participating it.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
I will.
I will look at pictures, I willlook at funny stuff and and
that.
So I don't get.
I don't get caught up in thesocial media, but I'm always on
my phone checking scores orbuying something.
Oh, I could use this.
I could use that stuff likethat.
Or you know, if I'm playing,even if I'm playing golf, I have

(17:34):
an app that that keeps my scoreand measures distance.
What?
Yeah, yeah, it's a GPS, so ittells you how far you are to the
hole and all that stuff.
So it's like I'm always on it,but just mindless stuff.
So it doesn't like the newthing.
I don't know if you've seenthem like the babies, it's like
the AI.
Oh, the AI babies, the AIbabies where they ask questions
about their mom or their dad.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm stuck on AI.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Bigfoot.
I'm stuck on AI Bigfoot.
I saw AI Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I'm loving that motherfucker.
Oh, I got to try that.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yo you got to see it.
It's fucking great.
I do the AI Stormtrooperstories.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Oh, those are great too.
I love those Two.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Stormtroopers always getting into trouble and stuff
like that.
Did you see the?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Bigfoot go with the.
That Bigfoot was in the woodsand Darth Vader comes down.
He's like yo, this freaking.
You saw that one, yeah, yeah,yeah.
Darth Vader lands in the middleof the woods and Bigfoot is
there and Bigfoot's like yo.
I hope it's not Darth Vadercoming to get me, like dude.
Darth Vader just gave me thislightsaber and we're going to go
fuck up this little green guyand Yoda.
And when they go out there togo find Yoda, he's like running

(18:30):
away from Yoda with hislightsaber.
Bigfoot is running away.
Yeah, it's freaking hilarious.
But again, I limit myself tothose, you know, to like certain
, to just the funnies.
You know what I'm saying.
I stay on there for a littlewhile.
Like I'll scroll for a littlebit.
Yes, it's the.
There's no more reading in theon the phone.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
You have the phone on the toilet and I'll just
freaking deep dive I used

Speaker 3 (18:53):
to have a magazine rack in the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
You still do?
Yeah, he still does.
I still do, but I don't.
Sometimes I'll look at themagazines.
That was the only time I readthe paper.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was in the can.
Are you serious?
Oh yeah, dude.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I used to read the paper.
Oh see, okay, it's funny though.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Before phones.
I used to never do anything inthe bathroom except go to the
bathroom Right.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Really what the?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
hell is wrong with you.
No, no no.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
That's quiet time.
Dude, You're funny.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Twisting your thoughts.
Yeah, you're reallyconcentrating.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
No, bro, I hear too many voices.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I can't do that shit.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah you're focused, man.
It's just a phone.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
When I was a kid.
So the funny right, when I wasa kid, right, I would take the
TV.
So we had a little likefreaking 12 inch black and white
TV and I would run theextension cord, put it into the
bathroom and close the door andwhen I was taking a dump I would
watch TV because it would beKnight Rider.
You know what I'm saying?
I had to get Miss Knight Rider,bro.

(19:49):
I've done that.
Bj and the Bear.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
I was little, it was all those super old school stuff
.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
For those that don't know, it's the old school stuff
and you know that was what I did, man.
That was what I did in thebathroom.
I read the paper on the train,on the train.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I slept on the train when get much to work.
Oh dude, I was just drunk.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, in Brooklyn I would go from.
So I went to New York HighSchool, got to go to Manhattan
and I would have to go toManhattan to go to work after
school.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Now, everybody's on their cell phone.
They take your subway now.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, now they're on their cell phones and you know
what I'm going to say this Ithink what's really internet
service now on the subway?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Oh yeah, I don't know if that's a good idea.
The last time I was on thesubway, yeah, people want to
work on the subway too, likeit's because-.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Sure, they're on there.
That makes sense too.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I guess for safety too.
Why would it be safety?
I want one.
For what Something?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
happened?
Why?
On a train?

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, he could call in anything, then they would be
able to call in.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
That's why the conductor's there.
The radios work Unless theytake the conductor out.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Oh, that's true.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Apollo.
Yeah, what was that movie?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Patagonia, palomonza 3?
Yes, thank you.
Patagonia, palomonza 3.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
The good one.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
The original one, or I mean what happens if, like
it's a situation where, like,the train crashes and
everybody's out and you're allscattered on the tracks.
Oh help, you know you need yourphone.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
So, and what's messed you know, but what would you?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
have done if you didn't have your phone when it
was a time when you didn't havephones, you would have died in
the tunnel, you would have neverknown you would have died in
the tunnel.
Trying to find way out Right, soyou would have did the same
shit if the phone didn't, butthen you could risk getting in
trouble.
You can risk getting hurt or MrGreen would have shouted
because he was a crazy one.
All right.
So how long does this Bluetoothgo?
Does it go the whole ride thatyou're on the train?
Or does it only go to thestation?
It's just it.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
they have cell towers in the.
So now they gave you somethingmore for you to focus in on
right, right oh but, like what.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Steve said, but the work thing I think is, but also
it's also not being like aconspiracy theorist I'm a big
one like that but like it's just.
It's just a way to just keepeverybody shut up, right here's
your little here's your littlething.
Get in your, if everyone's likethis everyone's like this.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And they can control what you see if you want to go
down that same route.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, well, that's what we're talking about with
the algorithms.
Yeah, you're a million percent,right, well?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
the algorithms are.
You know, they controleverything.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah.
So, like I said, what would bethe difference, did you now
switch phones?
So, like I said, what would bethe difference Did?

Speaker 4 (22:33):
you now switch phones Because something you said
before Well.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I have my work phone.
No, no, no, no.
Do you do flip phone?
You go back to flip phone.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
People are doing that , people are going back to flip
phones.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Right, but are they going back to flip phones?
Because it's?

Speaker 4 (22:45):
cheaper.
No, no, because they want toget away from all that.
But the flip phones.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
They're not the Razors that we had or the Nokias
where you have to hit 1, 2, 3to get a C.
No, I think they're moreinternet ready phones.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, but it's just more of a simpler phone, is the?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
internet ready as far as the communication.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
So it's not easy to get the phone full, easy to do
whatever.
Whatever, I think they justclose up.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't know, I'm gonna have to look at that.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't know if they yeah my father had one my father
had one.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I could go on it, but it was complicated.
It was a pain in the ass to gowhere you needed to go, because
you had to manually go and typeit over.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Are getting away from that.
See, I haven't seen anybodywith a flip phone, like you're
saying, except for no, I'm justsaying I've seen people go with
a flip phone Really.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Some people are starting to get away from it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I remember, I knew someone that had a flip phone.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I've seen Verizon have a flip phone but it just
flips and it opens up to aregular smartphone.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Right that I see it folds.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It opens the screen, pixel, pixel.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
But also Samsung has one.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Oh, Samsung.
Okay, it opens up like a book.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And then it's just a bigger screen.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Right, it's like having a tablet.
It's like having a tablet,right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So you fold it and you got your phone and then,
when you open it up, you got atablet.
You got a tablet, that's insane.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Then that phone to me that's going to break soon.
Yeah, I don't want that.
Yeah, I wouldn't want it.
What do you?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
mean break.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Break how?
Because that kind of machineryalone is not going to last the
wear and tear.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
If you open it and close it and do whatever you do,
it'll last long enough untilyou have to buy a new one.
Exactly that's paid off.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
So there's a show.
I forgot what channel it's on,so dig it.
So there's a show oh, I forgotwhat channel it's on, what
streaming service, but it'scalled Upload.
And they have on their hand isthe phone.
So you do this, you hold the Land the phone is right there.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
That's the beginning of that phone that we're just
talking about, that you open itup and flip it Because it's in
your fingers now, but they cando that with a watch and they do
it with a watch, and they had awatch with a projector that was
motion detected.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Right so you could type into it.
It's like a 3D hologram almost.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, that's what it was, Wasn't that in Tom Cruise
movie?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
No, it was in Star Trek.
It was in Minority Report.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, he had that on the watch.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, but also I bet you, this is the l yeah.
What is that?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Oh gee, loser, loser loser guys are funny on our
phone.
Yo, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I wasn't going, I didn't even think about that
shit, bro.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know, man, I just thinkthat so many things that we
have now are things that when wewere kids, we were like like,
oh, I wish we had that, I wishit was something that you know
we should have.
This, it should be.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Now we have it.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And now we're like jeez, bro, that's like too much,
like it's too much information,it's too much, you know, access
to whatever internet serviceyou can use.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
No, I think it's too much.
They're definitely throwing itat you for sure, and they want
you to be locked in.
I'm sure.
But you have the power, though,right, don't?
We have the power to be theones to say okay, I'm going to
limit it, I'm going to do this,I'm going to do that, and if you
, stick with it like it's kindof like going on a diet maybe,
or a workout plan, or when yourealize that it's too much,

(26:10):
because how long.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
but then we were on it for like we were all in it.
Everything was the phone, thephone, the phone.
And now we both out of the fourof us here we said that we've
kind of backed off from it andput the phone down.
Right, you know what I'm saying?
How many people out of abillion are actually putting the
phone down?

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It sounds like it's a trendthat's starting now.
People are starting to noticeit.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I've toned down some social media, but I still use my
phone for other things.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, but you use a chat, gpt, social media
definitely.
I haven't put down my phone.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I just don't do certain things Right.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Matter of fact, I feel like it pie chart it's like
oh social media you know it's alittle too much.
I'm about 5% over this.
I got to do that.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I got a good one for you now.
You were on your cruise.
I was on my cruise in May.
Yes, I had internet.
See, I didn't.
My wife did.
As the emergency for thechildren's, I took my shit,
turned it off and I threw itinto the safe turned it off and
I threw it into the safe done.
I didn't touch.
I would have did the same thing.
The only time I touched myphone is when we got to Puerto
Rico.
I have to be accessible for myjob see.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I have to be right okay even if I can't see people
that makes sense right, rightright so I have to be accessible
to at least direct people ifthey get interested yeah, see
also there was limited stuffwere going to do, so I wanted my
kids to be able to have contactwith their friends and stuff
like that.
You know, because there's timedifference and all that stuff
Right.
That makes sense, my wife alsoneeded to have contact to be

(27:39):
able to have her mother contacther Right.
So, like, so, like we, we kindof needed it and and.
So you used it and yeah, and youknow and I watched, and it was
3 o'clock in the morning.
I'm on a ship in GreeceWatching a mech game.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, no, see Nice no .

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Yeah no, which to?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
me I think Was cool that I'm like Right, I'm sitting
down on a balcony At 3 o'clockin the morning.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Watching this game, because that's what time it's on
in there.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, because it was like it was like a nine hour
time difference.
So, yeah, so I'm watching thegame.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, see, no, for me , I feel like if you're on
vacation, that then that's whereyou need to have your
disconnect.
You know what I'm saying.
So, like I said, so,mother-in-law had to be in touch
with so, since your phoneneeded to be on for your, you
know, because of your job thatthen?

(28:32):
No, I don't want her her, Ididn't want her getting in touch
with me like that that was no,that that's not part of the plan
right exactly, and that, evenwith the kids, the kids around,
they know enjoy where you arebut they did, but they still had
, but they had at night they hadyeah yeah, and you screen it
like because we weren't goingout, we weren't staying out in
the clubs until two, three inthe morning, right?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
just that's not our scene, right weren't staying out
in the clubs until 2 or 3 inthe morning.
That's not our scene, right?
So if we're in the room andthey're just chilling, they can
chill on their phone and haveand text with their friends or
play a game.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I was just gonna say the same thing.
I do like a hybrid style, likeif we're out and we're doing
stuff we don't have our phonesunless we're taking pictures
we're still on our phone.
Right and I said listen,because the phone is the hub,
the phone is the hub of ourconnectivity.
It's what we use for everything,but I won't be using it to like

(29:20):
doom scroll the whole time oranything like that.
No, but you still want it, it'sstill in your hand and you're
still using it.
I guess not Like what we weresaying how much we use it?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, because it's so much.
It's like it's like we were inschool and you gotta know your
math, right, because you're notgonna always have a calculator,
right, right, fuck you?
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I have a calculator.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
I have a camera.
I have a camera.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Flashlight like bring all our tea and Tom be like
yeah, here we go and there's nopermanent record you're fucking
great.
Yeah, exactly, yeah that waslike.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I just I think for me personally and how I do.
I just know for me, and whatI'm gonna say is my sanity
sanity or lack thereof is justto disconnect.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Like we don't even have cable at home anymore.
Some people need that, and ifthat's what you need, that's not
a bad thing.
Yeah, no, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
We don't have cable.
All we have are the streamingservices and we know we talk to
friends or whatever.
So we know which TV shows we'regoing to watch, because those
are the ones that we've beenwatching.
But you, we used to, man, wedon't watch the news the way
that we used to.
We don't do anything the waythat we used to.
In my house, wife stays on herphone.
You know what I'm saying.

(30:34):
She goes through and she doesthe social media stuff or
whatever.
I cut it off, I stop.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think, it's a mix of both of me.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
The TV is just a miniature hub of what you have
have on your phone, you canactually go on your TV and use
it, because you can connect toall that shit, right, like
Netflix is on your phone,netflix is on the TV, and that's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
You got to log on from your phone.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
YouTube is on your phone.
Youtube is on your phone.
Youtube is on your TV Do youuse banking on your phone?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
No, but again, I do it until 7 o'clock.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
You know what I mean.
And then, after that I'm done,I'll try to put the phone down
or I'll make it a consciousdecision Put the phone down.
You know like right now we allplay like the family, we're
playing Monopoly Go.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
So then I have it on my tablet, so my phone is down
down I do whatever I got to dountil all my dice rolls are done
.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
You keep saying tablet like it's different.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
No, no, no no, no, no , I'm saying it's the same thing
.
My point is that I'm sayingthat I go from the phone, I put
the phone down.
I'll just play that one game onthe tablet.
So let's say it's 20 minutesand then I put the phone down.
I mean, I put the tablet downand then I'm sitting there and
talking.
You know what I'm saying, but Itry to limit what my screen
time is, if that makes any sense, you know like.

(31:52):
So let's say, if I'm doing,You're still jumping from one to
the other.
No, no no, I'm saying so.
If I say to myself I'm onlygoing to have 10 hours because I
use it for work, then 10 hoursof screen time, whether it's the
phone or the tablet it's justthat 10 hours and I drop it.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
But and I got your work, I understand what you're
saying.
I'm on my work phone, which isanother device.
So it's you're right, and inorder for you to get connected
to whatever you need to use thatphone right and that's why I
don't think it's far-fetchedwhen people are talking about
things like neural link orwhatever like well, you were
talking about the glasses.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Wait, you want to sync it like to like.
Which is't you mention?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
to me about this, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
But it's not far-fetched that people would
want to do that because they'reon their devices all day long,
all day long, and they're justcooked to it and they can't stop
.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
And you were mentioning to me, when you and I
spoke about this, you said whatabout the glasses?
You said now I'll have theglasses, it'll change, the cell
phone will go away, it'll besomething else, and now it'll be
a different device, or somekind of a?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
So this person who talks about predictable futures
and saying that with technology,that everything kind of isn't
permanent, these phones aren'tgoing to be permanent, just like
pagers weren't permanent.
Analog foam wasn't permanent.
You know, that's kind ofthere's always the next thing.
So they think that the nextthing thing will be everything
will be in like your likeglasses or like you'll have like

(33:16):
a device that like that's not aphone anymore, like and it's
all ai powered, where you justhave your ai agents ask you,
just ask them whatever you wantand it comes back to you in like
social medias that you'll havelike the same thing.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
So you're always connected, almost You're
physically connected in a way ofdoing speaking, but you won't
have to screen anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's the same thing.
I'm not on my phone, but I'm onmy tablet.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
I'm not on my phone, but I'm on my glasses.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Because I know that the glasses they were doing that
.
That was the thing that, nowthe glasses that you can see the
readout.
Oh yeah, it's crazy.
Well, that's the thing too.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
They're going to make augmented reality now, and
that's going to just be crazytoo.
Yeah, where like you, can haveheads-'s great, but the thing
that would be cool, though, forthat is navigation, because
think about when you're driving.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I don't know if I would have wanted that when I'm
driving, because I think itwould have fucked me up.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Oh Lord See, I don't.
Navigations and the speakers.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
I'm saying that Right .
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I've had have it, but I've driven a car that had it.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Did it take you by surprise?
You didn't know it washappening.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
No, I knew it was there but I was like I didn't
know how to shut it off and thatwas bothering me, it was
annoying, the shit out of youright, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Back to what you said about the reality.
So there's an anime, because Iwatch anime that's called Sword
Art Online and what it is isthat these kids, people,
whatever they put on the wholeyou know the goggles and they
lay down in their room or theysit in their chair, and now
they're there because they'retotally immersed in the game,

(35:08):
but they have like a VR god,yeah, like an Oculus.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
So they have like a Like the Oculus VR God yeah,
like the Oculus, so they havethat whole thing hooked up in
there.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
So it's 3D, so it's like they're it's like reality
type stuff, because of thefuture that they're in.
When they hook up the Oculus,it's hooking up and syncing up
into their neural system, intotheir own body Right okay, their
own body, right Okay Now,almost like the matrix.
So now people are in there forweeks at a time.
You know what I'm saying.

(35:34):
So then here, mr Therapist,this is where it would be.
This is now where they'reliving what they believe, feel
want to be.
So they're not the same person.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
So they're living through the video.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
So they're, or whatever it is, how they dress,
how they want to dress Arecreation of some sort.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
They're recreating themselves in this AI Like an
avatar Right.
Like an avatar Right, a fantasyreality.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right, so now they're stuck in this whole thing.
So this particular one was thembeing they made a movie.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Bruce Willis was in a movie like that, where they can
go into this pod.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Willis was.
I remember that there was likea robot version of themselves.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Right, they were always young, but they were
living in that.
They were just mentallyconnected to it.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, I forget what it was called, but they were
like, yeah, they, yeah, that wasa good movie.
I remember that yes.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
But now it actually was a movie, believe it or not,
into reality.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
What is that taking away from the people?
If that makes any sense?
You know what I'm saying.
Like now, nobody was going to.
Right now we're having a hardtime people communicating with
one another in person because ofall the you know, the social
media and all that other stuff.
What's it going to look likewhen you actually have or be
able to sink in People?

Speaker 4 (36:45):
now they just dive into maybe as soon as you're
born, they'll just, they'll tearyou and they'll tag you, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
But the other thing is going back to what I'm saying
now, that's crazy you have likeall this super connectivity
right and now you're havingadvertisements, but probably
bombarded all day long, then youknow what I mean.
It's like it could be reallyintrusive.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
So then now, movies are becoming reality.
Because I was telling you guysbefore that movie WALL-E, that
Pixar movie WALL-E, it was thatit was post-apocalyptic kind of
thing.
I don't say post-apocalyptic,it was that the world that we
had ran out of resources orwhatever, so they put everybody
up in the spaceships and theywere all in space.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So now they're all fat and they're all in like
chairs and they're all in thesehover chairs and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
They can't move and they can't move, they can't do
anything on their own.
You know what I'm saying?
So that then now it's like, bro, like, is that what our future
is going to be?
Is that what ourgreat-grandkids are going to
look like?
Or the movie Idiocracy.
Idiocracy is another one, bro,we're on our way.
Yeah, well, yeah.

(37:47):
I think, that that would bemore the reality than WALL-E or
any of the other ones.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Listen, we're living in like the Terminator too, and
that's the other.
Terminator we're starting tohave robots, yeah, it's just the
Sky, because it wasn't inTerminator, it was Skynet right
and isn't that what they callthe defense system now Is.
Was Skynet right, and isn'tthat what they?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
call the defense system.
Now is it Skynet, what Muskcalls it that uh, if it is.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
That's fucking creepy .

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I thought it was called Skynet.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I think you might be right, bro, just to be, you know
well yeah, edgy, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, because he is an edgelord right, yeah, and
there you go, son, you feel me.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
We have a lot of science fiction comes to
fruition, it comes real, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Because something that Lou has said to us a long
time ago and it didn't evenregister, was that how a lot of
this stuff from Star Trek?
So if you look at it, thecommunicator, that was the flip
phone back in the day.
You know what I'm saying.
That was what it was, you know.
Now, not as small, you know,but you have the when McCoy

(38:50):
would check everybody out.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
The tricorder Right and you can see it's all those
things.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
You know MRI machine, x-ray machine, you know what
I'm saying, like that's how muchrecce.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
The Princeton Institute or whatever Right when
they do that full body scan.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Yeah, you can lay on a table now and it'll take your
whole scan.
And that's exactly what was atStar Trek when you get on a
plane.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Bro, you're standing in front of a big ass machine
with your hands up and it'sscanning you.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I haven't done that.
I haven't.
I've done that.
You haven't done that.
I've done that.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
So now they say can you get an MRI?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
All right, it's basically it's an MRI machine.
They're just checking you outand they scan for heat too.
I got stopped one time.
It was funny because it was thefirst time I was using my TSA
pre-check right.
I got stopped for an extracheck when I went scanned

(39:41):
because there was heat comingfrom my crotch.
So wow, and it was.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I was down in Florida , it was fucking 100 degrees and
my balls were sweating rightand I was down in Florida.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It was fucking 100 degrees and my balls were
sweating and I asked like whyare you pulling me over?
And she goes, you're showingsomething down there.
And they scanned me.
I was like, yeah, it's fuckinghot, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They showed me the scan whereit was like red down there, like
where they thought like maybe Ihad a donor or a knife or
something like that, and it'sjust.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Mr.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Happy Shweaty, shweaty balls, shweaty balls.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Awesome, that's awesome man, great man.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
That's funny.
I just think that my son wait Igot to go.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Sorry, not to interrupt my son.
He was at a barbecue and hewent to get on a plane and they
scanned him and because he wasdoing the charcoal and
everything, they pulled himaside but, they figured it out
once, he you know.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I just came from a bar, because he had he had like
a a residue.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
A residue like a gunpowder right, stuff like that
.
You know what that makes mefeel safe, that the ex picked
that shit up.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
He's like dad.
I couldn't fuck, I gotta say,when he told it's an
inconvenience, but I'm happythat it picks that up.
But they figured it out,because you say, hey, listen,
what did you do?
I guess he had to tell them Idid a barbecue, I was charcoal
and then they figured it out.
But it does work.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
So if they, found that that would make me feel
safe.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Oh yeah, no, there's a lot of things that we have out
there that do make us feel safe, because with technology, with
all the good that a lot of thisstuff can do, there's just as
much bad Right.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
So then I understand, I get it.
I, you know, I appreciate it.
There's still the but, yeah,what happens if and when it
takes over, when it is that it'stoo much?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
When it is that people just sit back and let go.
It's that.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
AI conversation.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
we had All the sci-fi movies is that Right, the AI,
the computers become smarterthan the people who build them
Exactly and take over and startrunning themselves because we're
inefficient.
Skydive, skydive Right.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
But technically they're already smarter than we
are.
I love when you do that shit.
Technically, right now they aresmarter than us because we look
to chat GBT to give us thoseanswers.
We're looking to you know,google Chrome.
When we type it in, we'regetting those answers.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
There's no more encyclopedia.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Now it's an artificial intelligence that is
making people look like us.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
It's a lot more convenient too.
That is making people look likeus.
Well, it's a lot moreconvenient too.
Because like if you ask ChatGPTfor a question instead of doing
a Google search, you're goingto get like a whole breakdown
and it's going to give you theinformation right away and you
can get resources.
Sometimes it does list them too.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
So then now, if we do like you said, before iRobot, I
think iRobot would be more thefirst before.
No, no, I'm saying that You'reright, they're already doing
that stuff, you know all daylong.
But I think iRobot would befirst and then Terminator.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Right, but you're right, but we have to be the
ones to put that programminginside of it where it does not
Until they do it themselves,until they do it themselves,
because then it turns into thefar, far future is the Matrix.
Well, the positive thing isthat we won't be here when it
happens.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Well, you know what, though?
At that point we'll already behere.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
We'll be somewhere else.
Oh, I want my Rosie.
We will be long gone.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
I want Rosie in my life to clean my house for me.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That would be they could make a Rosie now.
They could make a Rosie.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Oh, absolutely, they could actually make a
functioning.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Rosie, who you know.
Maybe she didn't float.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
No, no, no, she just had wheels.
She had wheels, she didn'tfloat.
They had the little cars.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, that was great.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
They could make that.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Easily got AI.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
They could make her, but they've already done that,
bro.
Think about it the bombsniffing robots and stuff.
You know they look like dogs.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, Like that's Safer.
It's just all those things thatthey already have, man, and
it's like you know.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Yeah, and it's just going to get better.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Well, better for who?
For AI.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Well, I'm just saying as far as technology is
concerned, you know it's goingto hopefully, but if they don't
destroy themselves, or if itgets too good that it picks you
up because you smoked acigarette.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
And you smell like a match.
Right and so therefore you're aterrorist.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Yeah, and therefore they're going to shoot you or
they're going to caution you.
That's the fifth element, andthe other thing is too is you
know, if someone is a goodhacker, they can hack all these
systems and use them againstpeople.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
And then that's what, that's the movie with Matt
Damon, which one that he had theexoskeleton and he had the
whole thing, and it's oh withJodie Foster.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Yeah, I didn't see that one.
You know what I'm saying, buthe was dying though.
Right too, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
It's just, there's just so many things.
But it was a Matt Damon flickand Jodie Foster, and you know
there was another one with MattDamon.
It was a oh god, I can't thinkof the guy's name, but it's just
all the things that now, thefuture, that the future could
not it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
It's gonna be basically up to humanity to
decide what it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah and that's what we have to go and end it with
bro, because that's our time browe really got into that one,
yeah, so again, thank y'all forlistening.
Watching follow, like all thegood stuff, love peace and hair
grease.
Live long and prosper, stayweird thanks for having me again
.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, alright.
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