February 26, 2025 • 46 mins
What if your childhood encounters held the keys to a universe beyond our own? Meet Atara, also known as woo_factor on TikTok and Patreon, who joins us to unravel her extraordinary experiences with interdimensional beings. Starting with a life-changing encounter at the tender age of four, Atara narrates how she and her entire family have been touched by similar anomalous events. Through her candid storytelling, she challenges the typical perceptions of such encounters, highlighting a sense of power and familiarity rather than fear. Her journey through a challenging family life to becoming a voice for these experiences on various platforms offers a rare glimpse into the world of aliens and psychic phenomena.
Exploring the realms of spirituality and telepathy, we reflect on the growing openness in society towards these once-taboo topics. We discuss how emotions like anxiety can be catalysts for spiritual awakening, especially for those with complex childhoods. Our conversation touches on tools like the Gateway Experience that claim to enhance telepathic abilities and their intriguing ties to the UFO community. By normalizing these discussions, we aim to promote broader understanding and acceptance of these evolving themes, urging listeners to reconsider the potential of human consciousness.
Buckle up for a thought-provoking discussion on the evolution of telepathic communication and the untapped abilities that may lie dormant within us. With personal anecdotes and reflections, we ponder whether humans are on the brink of developing these nonverbal communication skills, much like the extraterrestrial beings we often imagine. Finally, we take a moment to steer away from polarizing topics, fostering a relaxed atmosphere with hopes of leaving you with a message of peace, prosperity, and an intriguing nod towards veganism. Join us in this episode for an unforgettable journey through the unexplored dimensions of human interaction.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
hey everybody, welcome to cotman crawford and
the jersey guy podcast.
I'm your host, tom ramage lewiscrawford and kenny cotman.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
How's everybody doing ?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
everybody's doing great.
So we have a special guest onthe show.
We have Atara.
She is on TikTok and Patreonunder her name is woo underscore
factor.
So how are you doing today,Atara?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm doing great.
I'm glad to join you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I watched a couple of your podcasts and the reason
why I said yes is because Iloved how you all were just
sitting around normalizing,talking about stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, thank you for listening.
Yeah, that's awesome and I'mglad.
At least that's what we try todo Try to normalize everything
this way everybody feelscomfortable listening and when
we have guests on that, theyfeel comfortable talking.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Everybody has their own point of view you know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So yeah, it's interesting to hear each one of
us.
So well, you can see it, thanks.
So yeah, so, um, you know I, I,you know we, we both follow
each other on uh tiktok and Iwas always interested in your
you.
You talk about a lot of uh, alot of interesting stuff.
You talk about, like you know,aliens and some psychic
predictions, and I'm alwaysfascinated to hear you talk
(01:32):
about all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We, we're always fascinated.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, yes, yes yes, all of us.
So I know we discussed that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Maybe you talk about some of like alien abduction
stuff.
If you're interested in talkingabout that, sure, well, to be
clear, I don't think I've everbeen abducted.
I haven't had that since.
I've had visitations and theexperiences that I've had have
been interdimensional.
(02:06):
So the first experience that Ihad was I was four years old and
one of those, let's say, ahybrid.
He was a lizard, reptilianhybrid.
He was huge and I hadabsolutely no fear in my body
(02:27):
about this.
The experience happenedmultiple times as well, and I
have an identical twin sisterwho was always asleep.
So she was asleep and I wasawake during these experiences.
I'm not sure what else to sayabout it, because I was so young
at the time.
What I remember was one of themstanding over me and, if you
can imagine, bringing its faceright up to mine, and it felt
(02:52):
like he was trying to see if Iwould be scared.
Yeah, and I just wasn't.
So there's that one.
Were there any others that youwanted to hear, or?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
do you want to dive deeper on that one?
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah, yeah, whatever, I meanwhichever one, you feel better,
you know, if you want to justkind of like go through a few of
them or you want to just, youknow, elaborate on this
particular one.
Yeah, you know, because it'sthat's the first time I've heard
, uh, well, not the first time,but you know I don't hear too
often about like, uh, the lizardpeople.
You know we hear most like thegreys and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Right, so here, yeah, that's, that's different, so
I'd love to hear what you haveto say about that right.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, yeah, and we you know we, since we're in
disclosure we are hearing a lotof different narratives about
the different uh beings that areout there and what their
intentions are Um with with thisguy.
He was um, I mean, I just howdo I know he was a guy versus a
female?
That I don't?
even know how I how I knew that,but I did Um and he felt.
(03:56):
He felt like I had been withhim before Um, so he felt
familiar to me.
Um and uh, um.
And at four years old, I washaving a lot of different
experiences.
I also saw a dark energy thatwas around my father.
(04:18):
It looked like nanotechnology,like the energy was alive around
him as he was talking and Icall that there's someone on
TikTok that was getting into aconversation about this but the
energy, I call it the kind ofthe fabric of what we
communicate through, and at theage of four, I was able to see
(04:42):
it around my father.
And so these beings whetherwhether it's the greys, because
I've seen the greys as well, thegreys or the reptilians all of
my experiences, all of them havebeen powerful.
I haven't had a negativeexperience where I walked away
(05:04):
saying they did something to meagainst my will.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, right, and your sister-in-law had any
experiences with this?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
My entire family has.
My mother saw a spaceship whenshe was 10 years old.
She lived in Hockensville, Ithink that was 1955.
My father had seen uh had allkinds of anomalous experiences.
My sister she just wasn't awakefor these things, but she has
had anomalous experiences okayum, as has my brother um and a
(05:39):
number of cousins, but it runspretty deep in in uh in my
family yeah, cousins too.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Now did you.
Who was the first person toadmit?
Was it you?
Or did like, uh, your dad orsomebody say something?
And it was like, oh, me too Isaw that too.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Uh yeah, no, that would be me.
I'm.
I'm the person who's like, letme talk about anything and
everything and you said you werefour on the first one right the
very first one for you, though,wow yeah, so that you're gonna
remember that forever.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I mean it's not going away.
So were you talking about itright at that moment when it
happened?
You know, like when you saw it,did you as what a child will do
would be like hey, by the way,I just saw abc.
You Is that kind of whathappened.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
My family life was hard, and sowe just had other things to be
talking about.
I didn't start talking about ituntil I got outside the home,
outside my home.
Because, for whatever reason, Igot outside the home, outside
(06:45):
my home, um, because these, forwhatever reason, these
experiences, uh, reallyterrified um, other family
members uh from their experience, and so their experiences meant
that they didn't want to talkabout it at all, like shut it
down, okay, um, and so so I'm.
(07:05):
I am the person in the familywho does talk about this at all,
like shut it down completely,um, and so so I'm.
I am the person in the familywho does talk about this and um,
and and nobody talks to me nowoh, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's crazy.
See, that's wild, because thisway I mean you would figure that
.
Then you know they that they,as long as there's somebody else
that has had the experience,that they would be more open to
speak on it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, you would.
I watched a workshop a coupleof years ago about anonymous
experiences and it was the firsttime I saw a couple of guys
about their experiences, alongwith Whitley Striever I don't
(07:48):
know if I'm saying his last namecorrectly, but it was the first
time I listened to a coupleguys talk about their
experiences and this gentlemanwas terrified.
I'm talking blood-curling typeof fear in his body and sort of
(08:08):
the way that I, after listeningto Whitley talk about his
experiences, his weren't allpositive.
He had experiences where he wasyou know he was.
He had experiences that made itfeel like he was taking
advantage of um as a man, and soafter hearing his experience,
(08:31):
my position sort of changed onbeing able to understand other
people's experiences.
Does that make sense?
yeah mind was fine, and and I, I, I developed this habit of just
going around and just talkingabout them positively and and
(08:52):
and coming across my family andother people.
There is real fear therebecause they don't know how to
narrate around it.
They don't know how to narratearound experience yet, or they
don't have enough information.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, they don't want to talk about the elephant in
the room Right.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Which is what Tell me .
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They don't want to talk about the elephant in the
room.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Right, you don't have a problem talking about that?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
they don't want to do it, you're like yo listen, we
need to talk about this, becauseyou know this was an experience
and you know you felt some typeof way and they didn't.
So then you know it's that fearfactor, though, because you
know, you accept it.
I guess we'll say in a sense,you know, you're like, ok, cool,
let's talk about this, see whatit is.
(09:46):
They were so scared about whatwas going on with them because
they couldn't explain it, theycouldn't polyverbalize it, so
that then you know, so that thenthat's why poly for them.
But you know and you hear moreabout the negative, if you will
that people have with the aliensor their out of body
experiences or their crossingdimensions and all that other
stuff.
You know, it's rare that youhear anybody says, oh my God, it
was the greatest thing ever.
I was so enlightened, I feel atpeace.
(10:06):
People are so scared about theunknown because they feel like
they couldn't control it, thatthey take it to the negative.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It does make sense.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It makes sense that when your psyche is touches
something that you don'tunderstand, that you um narrate
it right yeah, you think a lotsorry um you think a lot of it
has to do with like ontologicalshock, like you know where.
Like you, just like your wholeworld views changed and now,
(10:36):
like you, just can't handle it.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
You know well, I saw a thing, excuse me real quick.
I saw a thing that we're justtalking about, stuff like that
last week on one of thediscovery channels yeah, yeah
and this.
You know, this is exactly whatyou were just saying.
Yeah, yeah, so they were.
You know, it was like theychanged.
The guy changed from being onekind of person and then he
became a very spiritual personbecause of the experience he had
, and it wasn't a greatexperience.
(10:59):
it was a negative one, butbecause of the um, I guess Is
that the right word it's justthe fact that it was so
overwhelming that compelled himto become more spiritual and go
a different direction.
It just changed course.
Let's make a right right here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm sorry, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So yeah, you think it's like an ecological shock,
or yeah?
Explain, define that word forme well, ontological shock is
like, where, like something thatlike changes your whole world
view, like if you were to like.
You know like walk into a roomand like, like in the matrix,
like the gravity reversed, likeyou know what I mean.
Like and you were, you know,like something that would just
(11:45):
change your like doesn't applyto your worldview, it just
completely changes your, like,your equilibrium.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Everything is off.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Like your whole, like your reality.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It changes your entire reality, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, I get what you're saying, and shock is like
, you know, they can't accept it, like they don't know what to
do, and you know what I mean Imust have fallen or hit my head
or something.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, yeah, and I would say that there are people
who, just directly in my ownexperience, when I have given
them, have had premonition intheir presence.
Yeah, yeah.
That that has happened, thatthat type of shock that you're
talking about.
Yeah, has happened that, thattype of shock that you're
talking about, where they havesaid directly to me atara, when
(12:28):
you talk like this, I feelcompletely psychologically
destabilized yeah um, and andthose individuals have.
I don't interact with themanymore because the nature of
the information that comesthrough me does destabilize
people yeah.
I'm very used to it.
I've been awake since I wasfour, so this is so normal for
(12:48):
me.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
Now, when you do or have yourpremonitions with people, can
you tell if they had aliendealings, or dealings with any
aliens, uh, abductions um them,like, say in a dream, uh, or
their moment of a superspirituality that they've
(13:13):
crossed dimensions like?
Can you tell that when you talkto them?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
that is a great question, oh my god and to date
I have not sat in the presenceof anyone and said oh, you've
had an alien experience.
What I normally do I don't knowthat that's going to be my
(13:37):
talent what I typically do ispick up on whether or not
someone is intuitive.
You know their talent here onEarth.
I have never had a, I'm tryingto think.
I don't think I've ever had aread with someone where they've
(13:59):
had an alien experience.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Ever Wow, that's wild , not ever.
Now, what about them in theirspiritual what, like how, how,
without, when they don't knowthat they are?
Um, I guess that they areenlightened.
I'll call it, when they don'tknow, after a reading with you
do they know?
Are they more apt to be open toit or to, I guess you'll say,
(14:24):
to learn from you?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Do you want to know what you know?
We have such a I don't want touse the word oppressive, but I
guess it's the best word.
When it comes to the spiritualstuff, there is such an
oppressive energy around it thata lot of people won't accept it
(14:48):
If I tell people that they areimpossible or if I tell them
they are intuitive.
I don't work with people.
I used to, way back in 2012,2013, 2014, 2015,.
I had clients that I workedwith and I wasn't doing this
kind of work at that time.
I have a couple friends who, awoman I met on Facebook of all
(15:14):
places, and throughcommunicating with her over time
, I would consistently talk toher about how empathic she was,
how gifted she was, having nevermet her ever, and with her over
time she eventually began toaccept it.
But I got to tell you it took along time for her to take that
(15:35):
information in and own it ashers, because again on Earth
there is a high degree of thatstuff isn't true, that stuff
isn't real, or being ridiculedfor believing it, and so I come
across a lot of people who arestuck in that place, if you will
(15:55):
well, you know that's going tohappen, but it's more, more, I
think, lean, or starting to leanthe other way, though now
hasn't it, I think, with thetimes yeah, everything everybody
knows.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I mean there are more people who are interested in.
Yeah, you know, all theiraliens is their afterlife, all
that stuff you know I mean,everything is, you know, a
little bit more.
I think society is more open toit?
Yeah, and not you know, butit's going in that direction, at
least you think for For sure,for sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, no, you go.
No, I was going to ask youagain, not again, but like you
know, do you?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
think that then, because of people's emotions as
a whole, is that what bringsthose things?
I guess we'll say, bring themout out more.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm not sure I understand the question.
So like, um, all right, sowe'll just say you know we try
to stay off of the politics kindof thing, but you know.
So just the state of the worldright now.
You know just how people'semotions are and such like that.
Um, do you think that theseemotions, you know, good or bad,
just how they're feeling, theanxiety in some people?
Would that be a reason, a causefor um, for them to awaken
(17:12):
their inner, or theseexperiences or what could
potentially have beenexperienced like, oh my god,
that happened to me before.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You know what I mean, absolutely yes, absolutely,
absolutely, if you, if you grewup in ecosystem.
So, just going back to my ownchildhood, I had my father at
PCFC and he was a military man,so it was hell, to put it
lightly.
(17:38):
Right.
But it has prepared me for thistime period completely.
It has prepared me for thistime period completely.
It's such that thoseexperiences growing up, I would
say that I learned how to reachmy mind all the way at home to
make sure everything was cool athome before I got there.
I learned how to know thingsbecause there wasn't enough
(18:05):
communication within thehousehold.
So the answer to your questionis yes.
Under this type of pressure,people should ideally be popping
away all over the place, allover the place, which is why
it's great that you guys have apodcast talking and normalizing
all of these different topics,because you never know when
(18:27):
someone's going to drop in andcatch some of what you're saying
and they'll be able to identifywith it and it
Speaker 1 (18:34):
will be in a nice, calm, cool, conversational
atmosphere, which is what youguys have you know, you know the
whole wild thing about all thisis all this like stuff that's
happening with like disclosureand all that is that like um,
the, the whole subject of liketelepathy is starting to, you
(19:00):
know, become part it is now apart of like the UFO community,
because you know you had thefamous egg video and they were
talking about that group and howthey have I forget what the
word they used for psionics, Ithink, like people who are
telepathic, communicating, youknow, with aliens.
(19:22):
And then you have the telepathytapes, which I'm sure we'll
talk about in a little bit.
You know we could talk aboutstuff like that too, but it's
just interesting how like it'sall tying together now and it's
all timely.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Have you all been doing the gateway experience?
Is that what it's?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
called, yeah, the gateway experience.
I was going to check that.
I haven't tried it yet, butthat's supposed to like.
I know that's supposed to besomething that is supposed to
like open up telepathicabilities.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
What's that?
What exactly is that?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It's like a thing you listen to and it's kind of like
meditative.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
And it's kind of like meditative and it's supposed to
like help, uh, like like openup your like mind, okay, yeah,
and what?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
and just kind of like , um, I mean, you know, just
like uh it's like a guidedmeditation, but it's if there's
a lot of stuff in it and onewith the universe and getting to
the right frequency.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, and it's supposed to like open up your
mind, like telepathically, andyou know right stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So so what?
So what do you think?
Um, like, do you think uh, likeuh?
This whole like uh telepathything is going to start tying in
more and more with this I thinkso.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I um, I was just listening to it again because
I'm going to take a lot of uhnotes about it.
But you know they, they havetheir own telepathy chat, if
that makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yes, yes, yes, the hill right.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, where they go and they hang out and
there's thousands of them.
So sort of the question thatI've been asking.
Because of the way that Iexperience reality, I'm in that
world where they go, hang out.
I exist in it all the time.
(21:06):
That's one of the reasons whyI'm able to read information the
way that I can read it.
So when I was in 1992 or 3, Iwas driving a bus here in
Seattle Washington for theelderly and disabled and I
picked up a young woman who hadnot spoken for nine years and
(21:30):
you guys have heard thisparticular story but it ties
into the telepathy tape.
But one of the young peoplethat I picked up who hadn't
spoken for nine years decided totalk one day when I was driving
um, and she's talking to me,and she's talking to me about me
wow, she's not supposed to betalking.
(21:52):
Yeah, she's not supposed to betalking.
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm shocked yeah, you're the only person on the,
or was there other passengers?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
There was no other passengers but, the guy who
trained me.
So the way that this works, ifyou're familiar with those buses
that pick up the elderlydisabled and take them to
appointments and whatnot.
I got one of those jobs when Ifirst moved to Seattle and the
guy this guy trained me and wepick her up, we drive her around
and we took a poll book for thepeople.
(22:21):
When I finally done with mytraining and she's on my route,
so I pick her up, um, and she'ssitting in back and I get to her
house and she's walking backand forth as some artistic
people do and, uh, and sheblurts out you're special and
(22:44):
I'm like what?
I'm like you're not supposed totalk wow that must have been
like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
here she can talk though pretty much.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I'm in shock.
We get off the bus and I walkher to her house, open the door
and this is what she says.
She says to me telepathically,guys, she says it telepathically
.
She says do not bother tellinganyone that I can talk, because
(23:21):
they're not going to believe you.
Wow.
And so I went and I found theguy who trained me immediately
and I said you know, you saidthat she's not supposed to be
talking, but she's talking.
And he looked at me like I wascrazy and said she does not talk
.
And so this is the answer toyour question Is the telepathy
(23:44):
taking us in?
It's changing the way that weunderstand ourselves?
Yeah, yes, and here's why.
So the reason why she said Ilook special, I'm not special,
like, oh, you're special, youdon't know Special because I can
hear in that world.
She could see that I could hearthe same way that they can in
(24:09):
that other realm, themultidimensional world that we
live in.
So what she saw was that I wasable to see and hear and know
stuff just like they could.
That's what she meant by ourworld was able to see and hear
and know stuff just like theycould.
That's what she meant by ourlives.
Wow, that's wild and so right.
And so, being human, you guysare human, right.
You got your eyes.
You got your legs right.
We are the same.
(24:30):
So that means a definition thatwhat she was saying, that some
lady who saw me, and what thetelepathy tapes are saying is
that we're heading in adirection where all of us,
depending on our uh intuitivecapacity, will be able to do
exactly what they can do.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
We'll have our own telepathy chat we'll need phones
, we'll be able to just chatwith each other they're saying
we're going to, we're going togo, we're going to evolve pretty
much yeah, yeah, like, like,like.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I wonder if this is evolution, or is this just an
ability that we had and didn'tknow we had?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Well, you know, think of how much you're really in
touch with your instincts.
You know what I mean.
As we get older, we get betterat it.
Right, you do, thougheventually.
You know.
I mean it's just once.
You know when you allow your,your instincts to kick in, you
kind of are more aware of it.
I guess certain ways you pickup on things but um you know,
(25:26):
but I think it has to do with anexperience or just, but do you
think or do you think it isevolution?
I think so, if she's saying whatshe's yeah, from what?
She's explaining yeah it soundsto me that it's going to go to
the next step.
You know, know, I mean it'sjust right now.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
They're still in you know, we're in the in-between
phase, right, we're at thebeginning of the in-between
phase, right, right?
So what do you think?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well, think about it this way.
Think about it this way.
Yeah, this community has been.
They've been able tocommunicate the entire time.
Mm-hmm.
So if they've been able tocommunicate this entire time,
how many years have autisticfolks been around?
Yeah, you're right.
Since the beginning of time.
(26:05):
I mean not autistic butnonverbal folks, because it's
not just the autistic community.
They can do this.
It's nonverbal.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, right they're not talking right, but if they
do.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
It's not that they can't.
They can, but they're nottalking Right.
But if they do, it's you know,it's not that they can't they
can, but they choose not to, forwhatever the you know,
obviously with autism, it's youknow.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But the wild thing is , isn't it that like supposedly,
like you know,extraterrestrials, they only
speak telepathically.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I think right, they don't have verbal they don't use
verbal voice Really much theydon't have verbal.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
They don't use verbal voice Really much Not all of
them, but most they docommunicate telepathically.
Yeah, most of the time in myown experience, all experiences
were telepathic and I'veinteracted with at least one,
two, three, four, 54 species.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, because I was thinking like the whole thing is
like that supposedly, from whatI've heard, I've heard is like
telepathic communication likedoesn't have to be.
It can transfer languages, like, because it's like the
intention is absorbed, so intowords.
So like and I think that's whyum, like you, can speak to
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extraterrestrials is becausethey, they, they project their,
their intentions and theytransfer to words.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's that's always the intention that I've
understood from it, I kind oflook at it, excuse me, I kind of
look at it from the movie.
Uh, superman, when they havehim on the ship and he's and
lois is on there as well, andshe's telling him they were in
my mind, and they see the onescene with Superman talking to
Zod, kind of like.
That almost is the way Ipicture it.
When we talk about this kind ofstuff, that's good, when I
(27:44):
didn't even think about that,that's good you communicate
whole.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So when people communicate with me and I'm
doing readings, because for meit's always on it's never not on
and so it is whole.
I don't know any other way ofsaying it, but it's the whole
idea that someone's trying tocommunicate, right?
Right you get all of it.
(28:09):
So now, I'm sorry, go ahead andsorry, go ahead I was going to
say and what, and theinformation that you don't need
or don't want, you don't Like.
A lot of people are scared oftelepathy because they think, oh
my God, my secret.
I can assure you I don't wantto know people's secrets, I
don't care at all, like, don'tgive up, I don't care Because
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when you communicate this way,communication is instantaneous
and it's more comfortable.
Quite frankly, and you don't,there's no misinterpretation of
what someone means yeah, rightright because there's no tone.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
There's no like tone, deafness or anything like that
exactly, exactly yeah, becauseum, is it, is it?
Is it supposedly like you canfeel their emotions too when
they're expressing somethingRight?
Is it something like that?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just before you guys called,there is a I don't know about
330.
Actually there is a light likeeven now I can feel a light
energy.
I don't want to call it fluffybecause that now I can feel a
light energy.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I don't want to call it fluffy, because that's I
don't want to.
No, we're not offended.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Fluffy in this instance is a good thing, right?
So when the energy feels fluffy, it's just a good someone,
whoever it is, it's a good Likea cloud.
Good intention there.
Yeah, Like a fluffy cloud likeit's a good, solid, good
intention there.
Yeah, like a fluffy cloud likea tappy, yeah, and energy feels
fine and good.
Fine, meaning like sand, fine,if that makes sense, okay, yeah,
yeah, yeah, not grainy, butfine.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Got it, got it.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Okay, now energy has no.
No, I'm sorry.
Energy has what, I'm sorry I wasgoing to say that energy has.
On this level energy has.
I call it a shear.
So look at the politicalenvironment right now.
There have been times when Ihave written emails to the media
and said things like thepsychic shear out there is
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really tough today.
The psychic shear out there isreally tough today, meaning that
there's a lot of negativity andthe energy thread or stream is
very, very negative and I canfeel it like a storm across my
space and in my energy.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Got it, got it.
So now you say that you canfeel from us that it's a light
vibe and you know it'scomfortable and you're feeling
good when you're talking topeople.
Um, maybe, as far as we are youknow just that they're not in
the same area as you are can youfeel that like from everybody?
Um, oh, definitely, okay, allright, so it's not just because
(30:58):
it's like okay, yeah, okay, okayyeah, my niece calls.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
If any family members call um, I'll immediately say
things like okay, which persondo you want today, if you want
your um?
You want your fear auntie, ordo you want your nice puppy
auntie?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
yeah, yeah, yeah, there go.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Because the two are different.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Right, definitely, now can you turn it off?
Or is it just that, like I knowyou said, it's always on, but
because of so many years youbeing able to do it, have you
been able to just like say, allright, you know what, today I
need a timeout and I'm justgoing to turn it off, and not
you, not, you know, and I haveto hear all that I.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
You know what I do.
I do do that, but it has onlybeen since january 6th of this
year that I understood that I'ma telepath okay that I have,
that I'm actually a bona fidetelepath and, um, and that's one
of the reasons why I I wouldn'tcome on the podcast for a
(31:58):
little while was because I hadto stabilize myself and this
understanding that I am atelepath and I need to take the
weight Can.
I turn it off.
I have had situations whereI've really said for specific
people, I don't want to hearanything about such and such and
it goes off.
I hear nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, okay, and it goes off.
I hear nothing about it.
Okay, okay.
Now how do you calm yourself?
Because you know, like you said, now you're learning how, or
have learned how, to turn it off.
Before this, what was your Idon't say so much your process,
because I mean, it's kind oflike, maybe a little bit
personal, but like, what wouldyou or could you do for you to
(32:38):
center yourself?
Because that's a lot ofinformation, that's a lot of
emotion.
You know, that's that's thathigh anxiety level to me, if I
understand it correctly.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Oh, definitely For sure.
I pick up on terror attacks andall manner of things that are
out there, and so when I wasmuch, much younger, I I did four
silent retreats in one year,and that's where you go and get
into business talking Um and I.
You are silent for about fouror five days.
(33:11):
The longest one I did was aweek, and so within a one year
period of time, I did the foursilent retreats, and those
retreats taught me how to, evenif I'm not able to calm myself
and there's a difficulty incalming myself and then there's
the energy that surrounds me,right, okay, if I'm picking up
(33:34):
on someone who is, I call theseour citizens, who have been
unfortunately radicalized totake terrible actions.
But these citizens have beeninfluenced to do what I call pop
off in our ecosystem.
And so when I feel someone likethat, it'll be, I'll get a
certain word, get a very, veryspecific word.
It'll be, I'll get a certainword.
(33:56):
I get a very, very specificword.
The minute I hear it, I'll gointo prayer and I'll separate it
.
I'll make an acknowledgement.
Okay, this is not me, someoneelse having a hard time, um, and
so you're able to tap in andpick up on other people's um.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
You know whatever they're putting out in the
universe.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
They're just putting oh yeah whether it's a good yeah
, well, especially, yeah,especially for someone who's
going to try to take someone'slife going up with life.
I just don't believe that.
I just don't believe that whatI call the holy spirit put us on
earth to um come across peoplelike that.
So I have a hard core.
If I hear it, I pray about itand if I get specific details
(34:44):
which I have in the past LasVegas shooting a lot of them I
picked up on and I would sendthat information to the media.
So that's what I'm saying hereand I may not be answering your
question, so just drop me backif I'm not but there's, I've
always felt like there'ssomething that we could do, that
(35:06):
we could mitigate these things,that if we have people in our
ecosystem who can pick up onthese things ie our fellow
citizens having a rough time,rough go of it and making a
decision, an irrevocabledecision we should be able to do
something about it, whetherit's just you know what I mean
(35:28):
making us aware.
That's why I have an eyes wideopen.
I call that my eyes wide opensegment.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
You ever?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
see me say that that just means you need to be a
little bit more aware, becausesomeone is having a rough time
and they don't know how to dealwith their emotions and whatnot.
That didn't answer yourquestion.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I did it yeah, yeah, no, absolutely yeah, because I'm
thinking you know, like you,you know you're going to pick up
on somebody who's putting outof a certain frequency, right if
it's fear, if it's just thatthey're not, you know, they're
just having a hard time yeah,whatever my emotions or even
happy.
You know what I mean, yeah butyou can.
You'll know what you I'massuming based on what you're
saying is.
(36:07):
You're saying you kind of feelall right, this is not good,
this one needs help, and somesometimes you do.
You, you obviously, um,communicate with those who don't
actually as well, right?
Well, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yes, yes, I do, but there's only.
I've learned that prayer is notenough.
Like, as a society, we actuallyneed to put something in place
so that our fellow citizensaren't put into these types of
situations where they don'tlisten and we have the power to
do that.
Put into these types ofsituations where they live, and
(36:41):
we have the power to do that.
My part is just sticking up onit, but I've tested preying on
it and it's never stopped asingle one, not a single one.
So that tells me that that'snot the answer.
And that we have othermitigation type things that we
(37:02):
can do, Whether it's that youknow, I get connected with cops
and call cops and say, hey,there's someone in your
community who is getting readyto pop off.
We just need eyes wide opentype of stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Can you give descriptions?
I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I have.
I've had detailed descriptionsI had one permission of a guy
who went into a school inGeorgia and thank God that's the
only one who will pray a wordand there's a story about him as
well.
A young guy goes into Georgiaschool, plans on shooting it up.
(37:43):
I have a premonition, threeweeks prior to it, of a guy in a
government building and therehe is right in front of me with
me and I'm talking to him andI'm aware that he plans on going
into a government building Idon't know which one, but I'm
(38:05):
aware he's planning on goinginto a government building and
taking people's lives.
And so I'm talking to him inthe premonition.
I'm telling him you have noright to do this.
You need to go seek help Now.
For the next three weeks, afterhaving that premonition, what is
happening is I am just aboutevery day I'm waking up and I'm
(38:26):
almost emerged.
If you've listened to thetelepathy tapes, you know that
some of these guys end upmerging with people
unintentionally.
That's what was happening.
So that happens with me.
I literally end up merging withpeople and I can't do that.
So this kid, so this kid.
(38:50):
Over the next two weeks I'mwaking up every single day, and
here's what I'm aware of.
I'm aware of a guy, a young man, who needs help.
I'm aware of, I'm aware of aguy, a young man, who needs help
.
I'm aware that he needs to beput back on his medication and
I'm aware that, uh, I'm justaware that he's going to be
(39:11):
terrible.
And I have a description of himbecause I saw him in my
promotion.
So you can imagine my shockwhen I turn on the TV and see
that there's a guy in the schooland when they bring him out, he
is the guy that was in mypromotion.
Oh wow, he didn't shoot theschool up.
There was a schooladministrator who was praying
(39:37):
the entire time that he was inthe school.
And don't you know that she wassaying the exact things that I
was praying for those two weeks?
Wow, wow.
Now that's so nice.
We go back to the telepathytape where they have their hill
(40:04):
what do you call it again,caluckity hill when they go chat
.
That experience there tells youthat we also have our own chat.
I can break it down a littlebit more.
So when I have the premonition,I'm in that root system where
we all are, and for the next twoweeks, into that root system
(40:30):
where we all exist, I'm prayingand I am knowing and I am
trusting that someone in thatman's life is going to help him.
He's going to give him.
Man's life is going to help him.
He's going to give him away.
He's going to read that letter.
Okay, that's all I know.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And the day of the shooting, this woman is sitting
in a closet in the school andthis guy never leaves the first
floor.
So what I was sort of thinkingwas that her prayer put up a
barrier.
This guy never leaves the firstfloor.
So what I was sort of thinkingwas that her prayer put up a
barrier a barrier so that hewouldn't move beyond what I was
(41:10):
talking about before, which ishe wasn't going to be with other
people.
Yeah, you came a little garbledthrough that last part, sorry
about that.
He wasn't put on earth, thiskid.
He wasn't put on earth to dothis.
It wasn't his purpose in life,and so the Holy Spirit gave me a
(41:35):
premonition.
I prayed A woman in his rightthere in his own community also
prayed and helped him not commitfallout.
Wow, that's how I see it anyway.
Yeah, and you can watch themovie.
It's called State by Fire, Ithink it is.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Oh, they made a documentary about it.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
They made a movie about it.
And the woman was going to killher son.
She was going to unalikeherself.
The woman who ended up prayingfor him was going to take her
life.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Wow, that's pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's wild man.
I feel for you.
That's got to be so much harder, you know, because you can, you
know catch up on that energy.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, that super energy yeah, it's crazy, you
know, yes, it is hard.
It's easier when I'm aroundpeople who not only recognize it
but also understand the valueof positive frame thinking and
whatnot, because we are nevermissing each other.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, definitely, Definitely.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Wow, that is awesome.
Yeah, those um, all that stuffis just so wild with.
You know all this like psychicconnections and stuff like that.
You know the, uh, the telepathytapes and all that um, but uh,
I forgot I was gonna saysomething to do with the, the
telepathy.
Oh yeah, like um, do you thinkthat, like we're, we're gonna
(43:10):
start going in a direction nowwith like where, like it's gonna
be start becoming more open?
I know we talked aboutdisclosure and stuff like that,
but I think do you?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
think people are going to start becoming more
open to it as time goes on.
I think so.
I think you know they areworking on another second season
and they plan on includingverbal folks who have experience
.
So I think that as long asthese folks keep going in and we
(43:48):
out here keep talking about it,it can only grow.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yeah, you're right, it can only grow.
Absolutely yeah, I agree withthat.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's always room only grow,
absolutely yeah that is I agreewith that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean there's always room to grow, my friend.
I mean, I mean I still havestuff to talk about myself,
about stuff, because I've hadexperiences myself.
I've I've actually I've talkedto you about it before a couple
of times like, uh, like me, andmy wife, uh, she, um, she
actually like sometimes hererandomly hears my thoughts, I'll
be like, well, she'll be likein another room and she's like
(44:19):
what'd you?
say and I'll be like I didn'tsay anything, so it's pretty
wild so were you in thosemoments?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
were you?
Were you actually thinkingabout saying something to her,
or were you just thinking a lot?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
you know, I was just in, in like deep thought.
It's usually when I'm in likedeep thought, like I'll be just
like sitting there watching TVand thinking about something, or
you know what I mean, like thatkind of situation.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
That is awesome.
That's funny, but that's a goodone, that's great.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Do you guys mind if I ask you guys some questions?
No, yeah, sure, yeah.
I'm just wondering if any ofyou guys had experiences as well
.
What brought you guys togetherto have this podcast?
I'm asking for a couple reasons, because when we're done, I'm
going to, as you know, starttalking about you guys.
My goal is to go on other,different podcasts and make sure
(45:14):
we're keeping theseconversations going so that we
normalize this stuff.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Absolutely yeah, I came up with the idea.
I actually talked to Kenny oneday and said, hey, you want to
do a podcast?
And he's like yeah, he's like,what do we do?
I said what we do now, we justtalk about anything.
And then I say it's a Tom I.
I worked with Tom at the timeand then him and I spoke about
it and then we tried it out.
It took us a little while toget our feet on the ground, but
(45:39):
once we did, we figured it out.
I think we already hit our 100thepisode, by the way.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
already I think soon.
We did.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Yeah, I got the alert from Buzzsprout.
Oh, we're going to do a specialepisode.
This is the special episode,but then once we did it, but the
one thing we did and I thinkmost fans know this is that we
wanted to stay away.
We wanted to talk aboutanything, except for the two
most polarized things thatshouldn't be spoken about,
because we hear too much aboutit already and I'm not going to
(46:09):
say what it is, but you alreadyknow what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
I can do.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Yeah, anyway, yeah, we loved having you on.
Thank you so much for being ourguest.
We appreciate it, yep, but donot hang up.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, cause we're out of time now, so we usually do
45 minutes.
So Okay, yep, so don't hang up.
But don't hang up, we're justgoing to do the closing and
we'll, we'll just stay on in awhile, yep, okay.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
So, with that, appreciate you being on.
Thank you everybody forlistening.
I hope you enjoyed this episode, because this was groovy for us
.
So love peace and hair grease.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Live long and prosper and go vegan.
Hello.
hey everybody, welcome to cotman crawford and
the jersey guy podcast.
I'm your host, tom ramage lewiscrawford and kenny cotman.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
How's everybody doing ?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
everybody's doing great.
So we have a special guest onthe show.
We have Atara.
She is on TikTok and Patreonunder her name is woo underscore
factor.
So how are you doing today,Atara?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm doing great.
I'm glad to join you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I watched a couple of your podcasts and the reason
why I said yes is because Iloved how you all were just
sitting around normalizing,talking about stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, thank you for listening.
Yeah, that's awesome and I'mglad.
At least that's what we try todo Try to normalize everything
this way everybody feelscomfortable listening and when
we have guests on that, theyfeel comfortable talking.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Everybody has their own point of view you know.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So yeah, it's interesting to hear each one of
us.
So well, you can see it, thanks.
So yeah, so, um, you know I, I,you know we, we both follow
each other on uh tiktok and Iwas always interested in your
you.
You talk about a lot of uh, alot of interesting stuff.
You talk about, like you know,aliens and some psychic
predictions, and I'm alwaysfascinated to hear you talk
(01:32):
about all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We, we're always fascinated.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yes, yes, yes yes, all of us.
So I know we discussed that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Maybe you talk about some of like alien abduction
stuff.
If you're interested in talkingabout that, sure, well, to be
clear, I don't think I've everbeen abducted.
I haven't had that since.
I've had visitations and theexperiences that I've had have
been interdimensional.
(02:06):
So the first experience that Ihad was I was four years old and
one of those, let's say, ahybrid.
He was a lizard, reptilianhybrid.
He was huge and I hadabsolutely no fear in my body
(02:27):
about this.
The experience happenedmultiple times as well, and I
have an identical twin sisterwho was always asleep.
So she was asleep and I wasawake during these experiences.
I'm not sure what else to sayabout it, because I was so young
at the time.
What I remember was one of themstanding over me and, if you
can imagine, bringing its faceright up to mine, and it felt
(02:52):
like he was trying to see if Iwould be scared.
Yeah, and I just wasn't.
So there's that one.
Were there any others that youwanted to hear, or?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
do you want to dive deeper on that one?
Yeah, that's great.
Yeah, yeah, whatever, I meanwhichever one, you feel better,
you know, if you want to justkind of like go through a few of
them or you want to just, youknow, elaborate on this
particular one.
Yeah, you know, because it'sthat's the first time I've heard
, uh, well, not the first time,but you know I don't hear too
often about like, uh, the lizardpeople.
You know we hear most like thegreys and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Right, so here, yeah, that's, that's different, so
I'd love to hear what you haveto say about that right.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, yeah, and we you know we, since we're in
disclosure we are hearing a lotof different narratives about
the different uh beings that areout there and what their
intentions are Um with with thisguy.
He was um, I mean, I just howdo I know he was a guy versus a
female?
That I don't?
even know how I how I knew that,but I did Um and he felt.
(03:56):
He felt like I had been withhim before Um, so he felt
familiar to me.
Um and uh, um.
And at four years old, I washaving a lot of different
experiences.
I also saw a dark energy thatwas around my father.
(04:18):
It looked like nanotechnology,like the energy was alive around
him as he was talking and Icall that there's someone on
TikTok that was getting into aconversation about this but the
energy, I call it the kind ofthe fabric of what we
communicate through, and at theage of four, I was able to see
(04:42):
it around my father.
And so these beings whetherwhether it's the greys, because
I've seen the greys as well, thegreys or the reptilians all of
my experiences, all of them havebeen powerful.
I haven't had a negativeexperience where I walked away
(05:04):
saying they did something to meagainst my will.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, right, and your sister-in-law had any
experiences with this?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
My entire family has.
My mother saw a spaceship whenshe was 10 years old.
She lived in Hockensville, Ithink that was 1955.
My father had seen uh had allkinds of anomalous experiences.
My sister she just wasn't awakefor these things, but she has
had anomalous experiences okayum, as has my brother um and a
(05:39):
number of cousins, but it runspretty deep in in uh in my
family yeah, cousins too.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Now did you.
Who was the first person toadmit?
Was it you?
Or did like, uh, your dad orsomebody say something?
And it was like, oh, me too Isaw that too.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Uh yeah, no, that would be me.
I'm.
I'm the person who's like, letme talk about anything and
everything and you said you werefour on the first one right the
very first one for you, though,wow yeah, so that you're gonna
remember that forever.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
I mean it's not going away.
So were you talking about itright at that moment when it
happened?
You know, like when you saw it,did you as what a child will do
would be like hey, by the way,I just saw abc.
You Is that kind of whathappened.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
My family life was hard, and sowe just had other things to be
talking about.
I didn't start talking about ituntil I got outside the home,
outside my home.
Because, for whatever reason, Igot outside the home, outside
(06:45):
my home, um, because these, forwhatever reason, these
experiences, uh, reallyterrified um, other family
members uh from their experience, and so their experiences meant
that they didn't want to talkabout it at all, like shut it
down, okay, um, and so so I'm.
(07:05):
I am the person in the familywho does talk about this at all,
like shut it down completely,um, and so so I'm.
I am the person in the familywho does talk about this and um,
and and nobody talks to me nowoh, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's crazy.
See, that's wild, because thisway I mean you would figure that
.
Then you know they that they,as long as there's somebody else
that has had the experience,that they would be more open to
speak on it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, you would.
I watched a workshop a coupleof years ago about anonymous
experiences and it was the firsttime I saw a couple of guys
about their experiences, alongwith Whitley Striever I don't
(07:48):
know if I'm saying his last namecorrectly, but it was the first
time I listened to a coupleguys talk about their
experiences and this gentlemanwas terrified.
I'm talking blood-curling typeof fear in his body and sort of
(08:08):
the way that I, after listeningto Whitley talk about his
experiences, his weren't allpositive.
He had experiences where he wasyou know he was.
He had experiences that made itfeel like he was taking
advantage of um as a man, and soafter hearing his experience,
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my position sort of changed onbeing able to understand other
people's experiences.
Does that make sense?
yeah mind was fine, and and I, I, I developed this habit of just
going around and just talkingabout them positively and and
(08:52):
and coming across my family andother people.
There is real fear therebecause they don't know how to
narrate around it.
They don't know how to narratearound experience yet, or they
don't have enough information.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, they don't want to talk about the elephant in
the room Right.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Which is what Tell me .
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They don't want to talk about the elephant in the
room.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Right, you don't have a problem talking about that?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
they don't want to do it, you're like yo listen, we
need to talk about this, becauseyou know this was an experience
and you know you felt some typeof way and they didn't.
So then you know it's that fearfactor, though, because you
know, you accept it.
I guess we'll say in a sense,you know, you're like, ok, cool,
let's talk about this, see whatit is.
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They were so scared about whatwas going on with them because
they couldn't explain it, theycouldn't polyverbalize it, so
that then you know, so that thenthat's why poly for them.
But you know and you hear moreabout the negative, if you will
that people have with the aliensor their out of body
experiences or their crossingdimensions and all that other
stuff.
You know, it's rare that youhear anybody says, oh my God, it
was the greatest thing ever.
I was so enlightened, I feel atpeace.
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People are so scared about theunknown because they feel like
they couldn't control it, thatthey take it to the negative.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
It does make sense.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It makes sense that when your psyche is touches
something that you don'tunderstand, that you um narrate
it right yeah, you think a lotsorry um you think a lot of it
has to do with like ontologicalshock, like you know where.
Like you, just like your wholeworld views changed and now,
(10:36):
like you, just can't handle it.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
You know well, I saw a thing, excuse me real quick.
I saw a thing that we're justtalking about, stuff like that
last week on one of thediscovery channels yeah, yeah
and this.
You know, this is exactly whatyou were just saying.
Yeah, yeah, so they were.
You know, it was like theychanged.
The guy changed from being onekind of person and then he
became a very spiritual personbecause of the experience he had
, and it wasn't a greatexperience.
(10:59):
it was a negative one, butbecause of the um, I guess Is
that the right word it's justthe fact that it was so
overwhelming that compelled himto become more spiritual and go
a different direction.
It just changed course.
Let's make a right right here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm sorry, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So yeah, you think it's like an ecological shock,
or yeah?
Explain, define that word forme well, ontological shock is
like, where, like something thatlike changes your whole world
view, like if you were to like.
You know like walk into a roomand like, like in the matrix,
like the gravity reversed, likeyou know what I mean.
Like and you were, you know,like something that would just
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change your like doesn't applyto your worldview, it just
completely changes your, like,your equilibrium.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Everything is off.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Like your whole, like your reality.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It changes your entire reality, I get what
you're saying.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, I get what you're saying, and shock is like
, you know, they can't accept it, like they don't know what to
do, and you know what I mean Imust have fallen or hit my head
or something.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, yeah, and I would say that there are people
who, just directly in my ownexperience, when I have given
them, have had premonition intheir presence.
Yeah, yeah.
That that has happened, thatthat type of shock that you're
talking about.
Yeah, has happened that, thattype of shock that you're
talking about, where they havesaid directly to me atara, when
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you talk like this, I feelcompletely psychologically
destabilized yeah um, and andthose individuals have.
I don't interact with themanymore because the nature of
the information that comesthrough me does destabilize
people yeah.
I'm very used to it.
I've been awake since I wasfour, so this is so normal for
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me.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
Now, when you do or have yourpremonitions with people, can
you tell if they had aliendealings, or dealings with any
aliens, uh, abductions um them,like, say in a dream, uh, or
their moment of a superspirituality that they've
(13:13):
crossed dimensions like?
Can you tell that when you talkto them?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
that is a great question, oh my god and to date
I have not sat in the presenceof anyone and said oh, you've
had an alien experience.
What I normally do I don't knowthat that's going to be my
(13:37):
talent what I typically do ispick up on whether or not
someone is intuitive.
You know their talent here onEarth.
I have never had a, I'm tryingto think.
I don't think I've ever had aread with someone where they've
(13:59):
had an alien experience.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Ever Wow, that's wild , not ever.
Now, what about them in theirspiritual what, like how, how,
without, when they don't knowthat they are?
Um, I guess that they areenlightened.
I'll call it, when they don'tknow, after a reading with you
do they know?
Are they more apt to be open toit or to, I guess you'll say,
(14:24):
to learn from you?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Do you want to know what you know?
We have such a I don't want touse the word oppressive, but I
guess it's the best word.
When it comes to the spiritualstuff, there is such an
oppressive energy around it thata lot of people won't accept it
(14:48):
If I tell people that they areimpossible or if I tell them
they are intuitive.
I don't work with people.
I used to, way back in 2012,2013, 2014, 2015,.
I had clients that I workedwith and I wasn't doing this
kind of work at that time.
I have a couple friends who, awoman I met on Facebook of all
(15:14):
places, and throughcommunicating with her over time
, I would consistently talk toher about how empathic she was,
how gifted she was, having nevermet her ever, and with her over
time she eventually began toaccept it.
But I got to tell you it took along time for her to take that
(15:35):
information in and own it ashers, because again on Earth
there is a high degree of thatstuff isn't true, that stuff
isn't real, or being ridiculedfor believing it, and so I come
across a lot of people who arestuck in that place, if you will
(15:55):
well, you know that's going tohappen, but it's more, more, I
think, lean, or starting to leanthe other way, though now
hasn't it, I think, with thetimes yeah, everything everybody
knows.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I mean there are more people who are interested in.
Yeah, you know, all theiraliens is their afterlife, all
that stuff you know I mean,everything is, you know, a
little bit more.
I think society is more open toit?
Yeah, and not you know, butit's going in that direction, at
least you think for For sure,for sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, no, you go.
No, I was going to ask youagain, not again, but like you
know, do you?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
think that then, because of people's emotions as
a whole, is that what bringsthose things?
I guess we'll say, bring themout out more.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm not sure I understand the question.
So like, um, all right, sowe'll just say you know we try
to stay off of the politics kindof thing, but you know.
So just the state of the worldright now.
You know just how people'semotions are and such like that.
Um, do you think that theseemotions, you know, good or bad,
just how they're feeling, theanxiety in some people?
Would that be a reason, a causefor um, for them to awaken
(17:12):
their inner, or theseexperiences or what could
potentially have beenexperienced like, oh my god,
that happened to me before.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You know what I mean, absolutely yes, absolutely,
absolutely, if you, if you grewup in ecosystem.
So, just going back to my ownchildhood, I had my father at
PCFC and he was a military man,so it was hell, to put it
lightly.
(17:38):
Right.
But it has prepared me for thistime period completely.
It has prepared me for thistime period completely.
It's such that thoseexperiences growing up, I would
say that I learned how to reachmy mind all the way at home to
make sure everything was cool athome before I got there.
I learned how to know thingsbecause there wasn't enough
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communication within thehousehold.
So the answer to your questionis yes.
Under this type of pressure,people should ideally be popping
away all over the place, allover the place, which is why
it's great that you guys have apodcast talking and normalizing
all of these different topics,because you never know when
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someone's going to drop in andcatch some of what you're saying
and they'll be able to identifywith it and it
Speaker 1 (18:34):
will be in a nice, calm, cool, conversational
atmosphere, which is what youguys have you know, you know the
whole wild thing about all thisis all this like stuff that's
happening with like disclosureand all that is that like um,
the, the whole subject of liketelepathy is starting to, you
(19:00):
know, become part it is now apart of like the UFO community,
because you know you had thefamous egg video and they were
talking about that group and howthey have I forget what the
word they used for psionics, Ithink, like people who are
telepathic, communicating, youknow, with aliens.
(19:22):
And then you have the telepathytapes, which I'm sure we'll
talk about in a little bit.
You know we could talk aboutstuff like that too, but it's
just interesting how like it'sall tying together now and it's
all timely.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Have you all been doing the gateway experience?
Is that what it's?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
called, yeah, the gateway experience.
I was going to check that.
I haven't tried it yet, butthat's supposed to like.
I know that's supposed to besomething that is supposed to
like open up telepathicabilities.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
What's that?
What exactly is that?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
It's like a thing you listen to and it's kind of like
meditative.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
And it's kind of like meditative and it's supposed to
like help, uh, like like openup your like mind, okay, yeah,
and what?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
and just kind of like , um, I mean, you know, just
like uh it's like a guidedmeditation, but it's if there's
a lot of stuff in it and onewith the universe and getting to
the right frequency.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, and it's supposed to like open up your
mind, like telepathically, andyou know right stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So so what?
So what do you think?
Um, like, do you think uh, likeuh?
This whole like uh telepathything is going to start tying in
more and more with this I thinkso.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I um, I was just listening to it again because
I'm going to take a lot of uhnotes about it.
But you know they, they havetheir own telepathy chat, if
that makes any sense.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yes, yes, yes, the hill right.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, where they go and they hang out and
there's thousands of them.
So sort of the question thatI've been asking.
Because of the way that Iexperience reality, I'm in that
world where they go, hang out.
I exist in it all the time.
(21:06):
That's one of the reasons whyI'm able to read information the
way that I can read it.
So when I was in 1992 or 3, Iwas driving a bus here in
Seattle Washington for theelderly and disabled and I
picked up a young woman who hadnot spoken for nine years and
(21:30):
you guys have heard thisparticular story but it ties
into the telepathy tape.
But one of the young peoplethat I picked up who hadn't
spoken for nine years decided totalk one day when I was driving
um, and she's talking to me,and she's talking to me about me
wow, she's not supposed to betalking.
(21:52):
Yeah, she's not supposed to betalking.
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm shocked yeah, you're the only person on the,
or was there other passengers?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
There was no other passengers but, the guy who
trained me.
So the way that this works, ifyou're familiar with those buses
that pick up the elderlydisabled and take them to
appointments and whatnot.
I got one of those jobs when Ifirst moved to Seattle and the
guy this guy trained me and wepick her up, we drive her around
and we took a poll book for thepeople.
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When I finally done with mytraining and she's on my route,
so I pick her up, um, and she'ssitting in back and I get to her
house and she's walking backand forth as some artistic
people do and, uh, and sheblurts out you're special and
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I'm like what?
I'm like you're not supposed totalk wow that must have been
like what's going on?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
here she can talk though pretty much.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I'm in shock.
We get off the bus and I walkher to her house, open the door
and this is what she says.
She says to me telepathically,guys, she says it telepathically
.
She says do not bother tellinganyone that I can talk, because
(23:21):
they're not going to believe you.
Wow.
And so I went and I found theguy who trained me immediately
and I said you know, you saidthat she's not supposed to be
talking, but she's talking.
And he looked at me like I wascrazy and said she does not talk
.
And so this is the answer toyour question Is the telepathy
(23:44):
taking us in?
It's changing the way that weunderstand ourselves?
Yeah, yes, and here's why.
So the reason why she said Ilook special, I'm not special,
like, oh, you're special, youdon't know Special because I can
hear in that world.
She could see that I could hearthe same way that they can in
(24:09):
that other realm, themultidimensional world that we
live in.
So what she saw was that I wasable to see and hear and know
stuff just like they could.
That's what she meant by ourworld was able to see and hear
and know stuff just like theycould.
That's what she meant by ourlives.
Wow, that's wild and so right.
And so, being human, you guysare human, right.
You got your eyes.
You got your legs right.
We are the same.
(24:30):
So that means a definition thatwhat she was saying, that some
lady who saw me, and what thetelepathy tapes are saying is
that we're heading in adirection where all of us,
depending on our uh intuitivecapacity, will be able to do
exactly what they can do.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
We'll have our own telepathy chat we'll need phones
, we'll be able to just chatwith each other they're saying
we're going to, we're going togo, we're going to evolve pretty
much yeah, yeah, like, like,like.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I wonder if this is evolution, or is this just an
ability that we had and didn'tknow we had?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Well, you know, think of how much you're really in
touch with your instincts.
You know what I mean.
As we get older, we get betterat it.
Right, you do, thougheventually.
You know.
I mean it's just once.
You know when you allow your,your instincts to kick in, you
kind of are more aware of it.
I guess certain ways you pickup on things but um you know,
(25:26):
but I think it has to do with anexperience or just, but do you
think or do you think it isevolution?
I think so, if she's saying whatshe's yeah, from what?
She's explaining yeah it soundsto me that it's going to go to
the next step.
You know, know, I mean it'sjust right now.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
They're still in you know, we're in the in-between
phase, right, we're at thebeginning of the in-between
phase, right, right?
So what do you think?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well, think about it this way.
Think about it this way.
Yeah, this community has been.
They've been able tocommunicate the entire time.
Mm-hmm.
So if they've been able tocommunicate this entire time,
how many years have autisticfolks been around?
Yeah, you're right.
Since the beginning of time.
(26:05):
I mean not autistic butnonverbal folks, because it's
not just the autistic community.
They can do this.
It's nonverbal.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, right they're not talking right, but if they
do.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
It's not that they can't.
They can, but they're nottalking Right.
But if they do, it's you know,it's not that they can't they
can, but they choose not to, forwhatever the you know,
obviously with autism, it's youknow.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
But the wild thing is , isn't it that like supposedly,
like you know,extraterrestrials, they only
speak telepathically.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I think right, they don't have verbal they don't use
verbal voice Really much theydon't have verbal.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
They don't use verbal voice Really much Not all of
them, but most they docommunicate telepathically.
Yeah, most of the time in myown experience, all experiences
were telepathic and I'veinteracted with at least one,
two, three, four, 54 species.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, because I was thinking like the whole thing is
like that supposedly, from whatI've heard, I've heard is like
telepathic communication likedoesn't have to be.
It can transfer languages, like, because it's like the
intention is absorbed, so intowords.
So like and I think that's whyum, like you, can speak to
(27:16):
extraterrestrials is becausethey, they, they project their,
their intentions and theytransfer to words.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's that's always the intention that I've
understood from it, I kind oflook at it, excuse me, I kind of
look at it from the movie.
Uh, superman, when they havehim on the ship and he's and
lois is on there as well, andshe's telling him they were in
my mind, and they see the onescene with Superman talking to
Zod, kind of like.
That almost is the way Ipicture it.
When we talk about this kind ofstuff, that's good, when I
(27:44):
didn't even think about that,that's good you communicate
whole.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So when people communicate with me and I'm
doing readings, because for meit's always on it's never not on
and so it is whole.
I don't know any other way ofsaying it, but it's the whole
idea that someone's trying tocommunicate, right?
Right you get all of it.
(28:09):
So now, I'm sorry, go ahead andsorry, go ahead I was going to
say and what, and theinformation that you don't need
or don't want, you don't Like.
A lot of people are scared oftelepathy because they think, oh
my God, my secret.
I can assure you I don't wantto know people's secrets, I
don't care at all, like, don'tgive up, I don't care Because
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when you communicate this way,communication is instantaneous
and it's more comfortable.
Quite frankly, and you don't,there's no misinterpretation of
what someone means yeah, rightright because there's no tone.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
There's no like tone, deafness or anything like that
exactly, exactly yeah, becauseum, is it, is it?
Is it supposedly like you canfeel their emotions too when
they're expressing somethingRight?
Is it something like that?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just before you guys called,there is a I don't know about
330.
Actually there is a light likeeven now I can feel a light
energy.
I don't want to call it fluffybecause that now I can feel a
light energy.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I don't want to call it fluffy, because that's I
don't want to.
No, we're not offended.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Fluffy in this instance is a good thing, right?
So when the energy feels fluffy, it's just a good someone,
whoever it is, it's a good Likea cloud.
Good intention there.
Yeah, Like a fluffy cloud likeit's a good, solid, good
intention there.
Yeah, like a fluffy cloud likea tappy, yeah, and energy feels
fine and good.
Fine, meaning like sand, fine,if that makes sense, okay, yeah,
yeah, yeah, not grainy, butfine.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Got it, got it.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Okay, now energy has no.
No, I'm sorry.
Energy has what, I'm sorry I wasgoing to say that energy has.
On this level energy has.
I call it a shear.
So look at the politicalenvironment right now.
There have been times when Ihave written emails to the media
and said things like thepsychic shear out there is
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really tough today.
The psychic shear out there isreally tough today, meaning that
there's a lot of negativity andthe energy thread or stream is
very, very negative and I canfeel it like a storm across my
space and in my energy.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Got it, got it.
So now you say that you canfeel from us that it's a light
vibe and you know it'scomfortable and you're feeling
good when you're talking topeople.
Um, maybe, as far as we are youknow just that they're not in
the same area as you are can youfeel that like from everybody?
Um, oh, definitely, okay, allright, so it's not just because
(30:58):
it's like okay, yeah, okay, okayyeah, my niece calls.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
If any family members call um, I'll immediately say
things like okay, which persondo you want today, if you want
your um?
You want your fear auntie, ordo you want your nice puppy
auntie?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
yeah, yeah, yeah, there go.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Because the two are different.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Right, definitely, now can you turn it off?
Or is it just that, like I knowyou said, it's always on, but
because of so many years youbeing able to do it, have you
been able to just like say, allright, you know what, today I
need a timeout and I'm justgoing to turn it off, and not
you, not, you know, and I haveto hear all that I.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
You know what I do.
I do do that, but it has onlybeen since january 6th of this
year that I understood that I'ma telepath okay that I have,
that I'm actually a bona fidetelepath and, um, and that's one
of the reasons why I I wouldn'tcome on the podcast for a
(31:58):
little while was because I hadto stabilize myself and this
understanding that I am atelepath and I need to take the
weight Can.
I turn it off.
I have had situations whereI've really said for specific
people, I don't want to hearanything about such and such and
it goes off.
I hear nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, okay, and it goes off.
I hear nothing about it.
Okay, okay.
Now how do you calm yourself?
Because you know, like you said, now you're learning how, or
have learned how, to turn it off.
Before this, what was your Idon't say so much your process,
because I mean, it's kind oflike, maybe a little bit
personal, but like, what wouldyou or could you do for you to
(32:38):
center yourself?
Because that's a lot ofinformation, that's a lot of
emotion.
You know, that's that's thathigh anxiety level to me, if I
understand it correctly.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Oh, definitely For sure.
I pick up on terror attacks andall manner of things that are
out there, and so when I wasmuch, much younger, I I did four
silent retreats in one year,and that's where you go and get
into business talking Um and I.
You are silent for about fouror five days.
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The longest one I did was aweek, and so within a one year
period of time, I did the foursilent retreats, and those
retreats taught me how to, evenif I'm not able to calm myself
and there's a difficulty incalming myself and then there's
the energy that surrounds me,right, okay, if I'm picking up
(33:34):
on someone who is, I call theseour citizens, who have been
unfortunately radicalized totake terrible actions.
But these citizens have beeninfluenced to do what I call pop
off in our ecosystem.
And so when I feel someone likethat, it'll be, I'll get a
certain word, get a very, veryspecific word.
It'll be, I'll get a certainword.
(33:56):
I get a very, very specificword.
The minute I hear it, I'll gointo prayer and I'll separate it
.
I'll make an acknowledgement.
Okay, this is not me, someoneelse having a hard time, um, and
so you're able to tap in andpick up on other people's um.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
You know whatever they're putting out in the
universe.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
They're just putting oh yeah whether it's a good yeah
, well, especially, yeah,especially for someone who's
going to try to take someone'slife going up with life.
I just don't believe that.
I just don't believe that whatI call the holy spirit put us on
earth to um come across peoplelike that.
So I have a hard core.
If I hear it, I pray about itand if I get specific details
(34:44):
which I have in the past LasVegas shooting a lot of them I
picked up on and I would sendthat information to the media.
So that's what I'm saying hereand I may not be answering your
question, so just drop me backif I'm not but there's, I've
always felt like there'ssomething that we could do, that
(35:06):
we could mitigate these things,that if we have people in our
ecosystem who can pick up onthese things ie our fellow
citizens having a rough time,rough go of it and making a
decision, an irrevocabledecision we should be able to do
something about it, whetherit's just you know what I mean
(35:28):
making us aware.
That's why I have an eyes wideopen.
I call that my eyes wide opensegment.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
You ever?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
see me say that that just means you need to be a
little bit more aware, becausesomeone is having a rough time
and they don't know how to dealwith their emotions and whatnot.
That didn't answer yourquestion.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I did it yeah, yeah, no, absolutely yeah, because I'm
thinking you know, like you,you know you're going to pick up
on somebody who's putting outof a certain frequency, right if
it's fear, if it's just thatthey're not, you know, they're
just having a hard time yeah,whatever my emotions or even
happy.
You know what I mean, yeah butyou can.
You'll know what you I'massuming based on what you're
saying is.
(36:07):
You're saying you kind of feelall right, this is not good,
this one needs help, and somesometimes you do.
You, you obviously, um,communicate with those who don't
actually as well, right?
Well, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yes, yes, I do, but there's only.
I've learned that prayer is notenough.
Like, as a society, we actuallyneed to put something in place
so that our fellow citizensaren't put into these types of
situations where they don'tlisten and we have the power to
do that.
Put into these types ofsituations where they live, and
(36:41):
we have the power to do that.
My part is just sticking up onit, but I've tested preying on
it and it's never stopped asingle one, not a single one.
So that tells me that that'snot the answer.
And that we have othermitigation type things that we
(37:02):
can do, Whether it's that youknow, I get connected with cops
and call cops and say, hey,there's someone in your
community who is getting readyto pop off.
We just need eyes wide opentype of stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Can you give descriptions?
I'm sorry, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I have.
I've had detailed descriptionsI had one permission of a guy
who went into a school inGeorgia and thank God that's the
only one who will pray a wordand there's a story about him as
well.
A young guy goes into Georgiaschool, plans on shooting it up.
(37:43):
I have a premonition, threeweeks prior to it, of a guy in a
government building and therehe is right in front of me with
me and I'm talking to him andI'm aware that he plans on going
into a government building Idon't know which one, but I'm
(38:05):
aware he's planning on goinginto a government building and
taking people's lives.
And so I'm talking to him inthe premonition.
I'm telling him you have noright to do this.
You need to go seek help Now.
For the next three weeks, afterhaving that premonition, what is
happening is I am just aboutevery day I'm waking up and I'm
(38:26):
almost emerged.
If you've listened to thetelepathy tapes, you know that
some of these guys end upmerging with people
unintentionally.
That's what was happening.
So that happens with me.
I literally end up merging withpeople and I can't do that.
So this kid, so this kid.
(38:50):
Over the next two weeks I'mwaking up every single day, and
here's what I'm aware of.
I'm aware of a guy, a young man, who needs help.
I'm aware of, I'm aware of aguy, a young man, who needs help
.
I'm aware that he needs to beput back on his medication and
I'm aware that, uh, I'm justaware that he's going to be
(39:11):
terrible.
And I have a description of himbecause I saw him in my
promotion.
So you can imagine my shockwhen I turn on the TV and see
that there's a guy in the schooland when they bring him out, he
is the guy that was in mypromotion.
Oh wow, he didn't shoot theschool up.
There was a schooladministrator who was praying
(39:37):
the entire time that he was inthe school.
And don't you know that she wassaying the exact things that I
was praying for those two weeks?
Wow, wow.
Now that's so nice.
We go back to the telepathytape where they have their hill
(40:04):
what do you call it again,caluckity hill when they go chat
.
That experience there tells youthat we also have our own chat.
I can break it down a littlebit more.
So when I have the premonition,I'm in that root system where
we all are, and for the next twoweeks, into that root system
(40:30):
where we all exist, I'm prayingand I am knowing and I am
trusting that someone in thatman's life is going to help him.
He's going to give him.
Man's life is going to help him.
He's going to give him away.
He's going to read that letter.
Okay, that's all I know.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And the day of the shooting, this woman is sitting
in a closet in the school andthis guy never leaves the first
floor.
So what I was sort of thinkingwas that her prayer put up a
barrier.
This guy never leaves the firstfloor.
So what I was sort of thinkingwas that her prayer put up a
barrier a barrier so that hewouldn't move beyond what I was
(41:10):
talking about before, which ishe wasn't going to be with other
people.
Yeah, you came a little garbledthrough that last part, sorry
about that.
He wasn't put on earth, thiskid.
He wasn't put on earth to dothis.
It wasn't his purpose in life,and so the Holy Spirit gave me a
(41:35):
premonition.
I prayed A woman in his rightthere in his own community also
prayed and helped him not commitfallout.
Wow, that's how I see it anyway.
Yeah, and you can watch themovie.
It's called State by Fire, Ithink it is.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Oh, they made a documentary about it.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
They made a movie about it.
And the woman was going to killher son.
She was going to unalikeherself.
The woman who ended up prayingfor him was going to take her
life.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Wow, that's pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That's wild man.
I feel for you.
That's got to be so much harder, you know, because you can, you
know catch up on that energy.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, that super energy yeah, it's crazy, you
know, yes, it is hard.
It's easier when I'm aroundpeople who not only recognize it
but also understand the valueof positive frame thinking and
whatnot, because we are nevermissing each other.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, definitely, Definitely.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Wow, that is awesome.
Yeah, those um, all that stuffis just so wild with.
You know all this like psychicconnections and stuff like that.
You know the, uh, the telepathytapes and all that um, but uh,
I forgot I was gonna saysomething to do with the, the
telepathy.
Oh yeah, like um, do you thinkthat, like we're, we're gonna
(43:10):
start going in a direction nowwith like where, like it's gonna
be start becoming more open?
I know we talked aboutdisclosure and stuff like that,
but I think do you?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
think people are going to start becoming more
open to it as time goes on.
I think so.
I think you know they areworking on another second season
and they plan on includingverbal folks who have experience
.
So I think that as long asthese folks keep going in and we
(43:48):
out here keep talking about it,it can only grow.
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yeah, you're right, it can only grow.
Absolutely yeah, I agree withthat.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's always room only grow,
absolutely yeah that is I agreewith that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean there's always room to grow, my friend.
I mean, I mean I still havestuff to talk about myself,
about stuff, because I've hadexperiences myself.
I've I've actually I've talkedto you about it before a couple
of times like, uh, like me, andmy wife, uh, she, um, she
actually like sometimes hererandomly hears my thoughts, I'll
be like, well, she'll be likein another room and she's like
(44:19):
what'd you?
say and I'll be like I didn'tsay anything, so it's pretty
wild so were you in thosemoments?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
were you?
Were you actually thinkingabout saying something to her,
or were you just thinking a lot?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
you know, I was just in, in like deep thought.
It's usually when I'm in likedeep thought, like I'll be just
like sitting there watching TVand thinking about something, or
you know what I mean, like thatkind of situation.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
That is awesome.
That's funny, but that's a goodone, that's great.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Do you guys mind if I ask you guys some questions?
No, yeah, sure, yeah.
I'm just wondering if any ofyou guys had experiences as well
.
What brought you guys togetherto have this podcast?
I'm asking for a couple reasons, because when we're done, I'm
going to, as you know, starttalking about you guys.
My goal is to go on other,different podcasts and make sure
(45:14):
we're keeping theseconversations going so that we
normalize this stuff.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Absolutely yeah, I came up with the idea.
I actually talked to Kenny oneday and said, hey, you want to
do a podcast?
And he's like yeah, he's like,what do we do?
I said what we do now, we justtalk about anything.
And then I say it's a Tom I.
I worked with Tom at the timeand then him and I spoke about
it and then we tried it out.
It took us a little while toget our feet on the ground, but
(45:39):
once we did, we figured it out.
I think we already hit our 100thepisode, by the way.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
already I think soon.
We did.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Yeah, I got the alert from Buzzsprout.
Oh, we're going to do a specialepisode.
This is the special episode,but then once we did it, but the
one thing we did and I thinkmost fans know this is that we
wanted to stay away.
We wanted to talk aboutanything, except for the two
most polarized things thatshouldn't be spoken about,
because we hear too much aboutit already and I'm not going to
(46:09):
say what it is, but you alreadyknow what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
I can do.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Yeah, anyway, yeah, we loved having you on.
Thank you so much for being ourguest.
We appreciate it, yep, but donot hang up.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, cause we're out of time now, so we usually do
45 minutes.
So Okay, yep, so don't hang up.
But don't hang up, we're justgoing to do the closing and
we'll, we'll just stay on in awhile, yep, okay.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
So, with that, appreciate you being on.
Thank you everybody forlistening.
I hope you enjoyed this episode, because this was groovy for us
.
So love peace and hair grease.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Live long and prosper and go vegan.
Hello.
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