March 26, 2025 • 44 mins
Guardian angels exist across countless religions and belief systems, but what are they really? Are they literal celestial beings watching over us, or simply metaphors for the luck and intuition that occasionally saves us from disaster? In this thought-provoking conversation, we journey through different perspectives on spiritual protection—from religious traditions to modern metaphysical interpretations.
The discussion takes fascinating turns as we consider whether our conscience might actually be the voice of a guardian entity steering us away from harm. Each host shares their personal relationship with the concept: skepticism blended with openness, metaphorical appreciation, and genuine curiosity about what might exist beyond our physical reality.
Perhaps most compelling is our exploration of non-human guardians. Could your spirit animal—whether it's a koala, eagle, or panda—be your spiritual protector? The conversation weaves through indigenous beliefs about animal totems, the deep bonds we share with pets, and whether these companions might continue to watch over us after death.
We venture into even more speculative territory, questioning whether guardian angels might be ourselves from different dimensions, ancestors taking "protection shifts," or even extraterrestrial beings misinterpreted by ancient cultures. The parallels between angelic descriptions in religious texts and modern UFO encounters raise intriguing possibilities about what these protective forces might truly be.
Whether you're a firm believer in guardian angels or a skeptic curious about why this concept endures across cultures, this conversation offers fresh perspectives on the protective presences we sometimes sense in our lives. What guides your path? And how might you recognize when your guardian—whatever form it takes—is trying to steer you right?
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm Lewis with Kenny and the Jersey Guy Tom.
What's?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
What's going on, brothers?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
How y'all doing.
I'm good man, Excellent.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We are here again.
I love this time.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, it's the most favorite time of the month.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Absolutely yes, yeah, all good, yeah, it is good man
Anyway let's get right to it.
Then let's get into thebusiness.
Guardian Angels, what do youguys think?
Do you think they're real or doyou think that everybody, Like
you know, everybody has adifferent way of looking at it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But it does root from certain things that we've grown
up with too.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know, Judaism, Christianity.
Right.
Every religion has some kind ofguardian angel and stuff Right.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And it pertains to angels and things of that sort.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Right, right.
So do you believe you have one?
I don't know, because you grewup jewish, right?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
yeah, it was funny.
Even though I did.
I never really heard aboutangels and stuff like that a lot
.
I did that on my own stuff thatI, you know I was geek, so
that's the kind of stuff I wouldlook into or read or watch when
I was going to school, got itsomething I would persist on my
(01:34):
own, didn't have any influencewith anybody else as far as my
parents were concerned.
I'd have to say that but yeah,you know, I don't, I don't know,
right, I feel you.
I do know, do you?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
believe in it.
Yeah, I'm not really.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, no, you're not really, but I mean so then what
would be, I guess, theequivalent for you, I mean as a
metaphor.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I believe in it.
Like oh you know you're like.
Oh, you looked out for me,you're my gardening angel.
Yeah, okay, I believe in it,like oh you know like oh, you
looked out for me.
You're my guardian angel.
You know, like that thing, butnot like in, like a.
You know like I actuallybelieve in a guardian angel.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But as a metaphor, like for someone who's like a
good doer, who, like you know,looked out for you Because of
you I was able to get tosomewhere on time or whatever it
might be.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah , it could be anybody.
You know what I mean.
Like it's just like.
I mean like even to me, likeyou saved my ass, yeah, yeah,
exactly yeah, you're my guardianangel, you know.
So that, then, that's the someof the thoughts, the theories,
some of the feelings from somepeople is because that's so,
that voice you hear in the backof your head, yeah, isn't like
so much your conscience as it issomeone, as it's your guardian,
rejecting as it is yourguardian angel.
(02:45):
It's your guardian angel.
That's no saying no, lewis.
Don't do that, tom Doc, youknow what I mean.
That's supposed to be yourguardian angel talking to you.
I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm not saying it doesn't.
You know what I mean.
Of course I believe in thesupernatural and all that stuff.
We're geeks.
Listen to, watch all that we'reoff the wall.
You know I wouldn't put it pastit that maybe I always try to
think who, what do you mean?
Who, who, like?
Wouldn't it be somebody youknew?
(03:19):
No, not necessarily.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No it could be.
It could be anybody, it couldbe anything or anybody.
So right.
So now we go for a hot second.
We'll do Christmas.
It's a wonderful life I'm notsaying that can only be people.
No, no, I'm saying, but it wouldbe that that's people trying to
do the right thing by beingyour voice to make sure that you
live righteous, like I said,and it's a wonderful life.
Clarence was the angel, hisguardian angel, and Clarence was
(03:42):
the was the, uh, the angel hisguardian angel.
And clarence, you know, wasstill trying to get to that
status.
He wanted his wings right, soto get his wings and all that
other stuff, but he would stayforever being george's guardian
angel, so he jumps in waterinstead, and then it all right
like that's
Speaker 2 (03:59):
right time a bell rings and angel gets his wings.
That's right, all right, that'senough.
Christmas, it's not even.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
We're just trying to get, we're trying to get to some
of the mothers, some of themothers, um, but you understand
what I'm saying.
So then it's not anybody, youwould know, it's just somebody
who's gonna look out for you, orwhatever it could be, whatever
saint you you know, I guess it'sso.
For me it's, it's that othervoice you know, it's that what
gives me the luck, points me inthe right direction, whatever
(04:25):
you know, um, so I guess I dokind of believe in it.
It, but it's like I said, whoit is is the issue, is the
question.
You know, right, you want that,you hope for I guess that it's
going to be somebody you know,somebody that liked then I would
think, can it be an animal?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like a spirit animal.
Does it have to be someonewho's human in order for them to
be your guardian angel?
If you can have dogs in life,why can't you have them in death
?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well then it'd probably be whatever it is you
want it to be.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm just asking, I'm saying, I'm just putting out the
question I know the americanindians believed in a spirit
animal right, right, everybodyhad that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And like when they would come out when a child was
born, they would stick theirhead out of the uh, the tent,
and you know, right, see, nositting bowl, you know all that
other stuff, you know yeah, Ihad a dirty joke.
My uncle told me a long timeago but I'm not gonna tell you
now.
But yeah, man, like I said,it's just one of those things
you know, I think.
I think a lot of us need likeenjoy having that extra
(05:37):
something yeah yeah, and to justbe like bruh.
It's, you know, just myconscience, you know to.
Oh my God, my guardian angeljust saved me from crossing the
street today.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
What's if a guardian angel is like a metaphysical,
like a non-physical entity thatjust kind of guides you?
You know what I mean, like apower source instead?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like makes things happen for you.
You know what I mean.
Kind a power source instead.
Yeah, like makes things happenfor you.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Kind of guides you in the right direction, like, oh
you know, oh, it's just luck,but is it?
You bumped into him.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So you're in.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like from like another dimension, like a helper
, from like a fifth dimension.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know that's what we said in one of
the other episodes, that it waslike you know your dreams and
we're right back to time travelagain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Hey that's what we like.
Yeah, it always ties in.
Though it always ties in, itdoes.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's always, but because that's that geek part, I
know, but anyway, so then it's.
You know, is you, yeah, fromanother dimension, as you're
saying, or another time, orwhatever?
Wow, that's that voice, youknow.
I'm saying that's you, that'ssomeone who's well, yeah,
somebody you know.
Well, maybe it's justsubconscious.
Like I said, you know, it'sthat voice, it's just yours,
(06:57):
it's your seventh sense, right,if that makes any sense yeah you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
yeah, it's that thing .
People do believe in them youknow, they say they have.
They say you can summon, if youwant, right, your guardian
angel, right.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So now to show themselves, but our guardian.
So then, and so now.
Here's the next thing, though.
Saints, excuse me, would asaint then be your guardian
angel?
No, because he covers everybodyRight.
So then it's like networking.
He's the supervisor, you haveGod, and then you have the
directors and the supervisors.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You got your lieutenants Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So then would that be the same idea, I guess in some
sense.
Yeah, only because I'm saying Iknow in some religions people
pray to what they believe was aGod for everything.
So a God for water, a God forland.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
A God for this.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So then, were those our guardian angels?
Were those the saints?
Would that be equivalent, right, right, and we're not supposed
to.
Well, people who are religious,like that, you know, uh,
depending on what religion theypay homage to the saints, right?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
you know what I mean, right, I'm telling you man,
it's, it's wild because, youknow, I mean there's a lot of
things that I've done that.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm glad I had a guardian angel you know what I
mean it was a wild and crazyride.
Baby, you have one?
I think think so.
Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm.
What are you reading?
What are you seeing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So Christianity, rooted in biblical teachings,
through an explicitly labeled asguardian angels versus Luke,
mathis or Matthew, I'm sorry1810, suggests angels watch over
individuals, particularlychildren.
Psalm 911 speaks at angelsguarding people in their ways.
(08:48):
Catholic Church teaches thateach person has a guardian angel
from birth.
That's the Christianity,judaism, the idea of angels and
divine messengers, and presentof the Torah and the Talmud.
Some Jewish traditions suggestthat angels intercede on behalf
(09:09):
of humans, which is kind of whatyou're talking about, ken.
you're more on that level iswhere you're at, which is fine
with me, because that's a goodone, because they just intercede
if necessary.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But here's where I'm going to.
You know where I'm going totake it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's the idea.
No, no, go, let's go, that'sthe idea.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We still have Islam.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I didn't forget about that either, but you know I'm
going to take this right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Nope, go ahead.
No, but here we go.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Aliens.
Yes, man, I knew it I didn'twant to say it Like the meme.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Right.
Could it be an alien visitingfrom a different time or present
?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Because a lot of the stories in the Bible and Torah
about angels.
They're never described as likesome with wings that can fly.
It's always like they're likehuman looking Right.
Almost like a deity, yeah, yeahyeah, like that kind of thing,
like in the story of Sodom andGomorrah like the angels telling
those people to get out orwhatever, but they were just
(10:11):
described as like.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
They were told not to look back Right.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And that they rode on pillars of or clouds during the
day and pillars of fire Right.
What does that look like?
Yeah, ufos look like yeah, ufos, rockets, ufos or whatever,
ufos, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But that was more.
I don't know if those would sayguardian angels, as, more to
what people believe would havebeen, is a god.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So angels, guardian angels, I would think, same
realm.
So if that's what angels are,then maybe it's garden angels,
yeah maybe from anotherdimension, you know yeah I, I,
I'm, I.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So for you know, like again, you know we play the
fence sometimes, so you know Iget it.
I.
I think that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I just wish that then he would take me for a
ride in a spaceship but,whatever you know really go for
a ride hell, yeah, what's good Isaid that when I was 14, bro.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's just me, my belief on like religious stuff,
but you know, I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Right, I'm not going to lie.
No, tom, no, go ahead.
What you got, let's see.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Islam.
You said you were.
Islam.
Muslims believe in guardianangels Karamanan kadaban I
apologize for butchering it.
If I did, of course I probablydid who record a person's deeds.
Angels also protect and guidebelievers per Allah's will.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, right Right.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So the spiritual belief in here too.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And I mean like, because of how I believe in my
you know higher being what myreligion is to me.
You look at all the differentthings that people believe, uh,
when you tell them and as far asthe religion is concerned,
right, so that then is it just,it's just your subconscious,
(12:04):
it's like it's not even anything, it's just you.
There's no guardian angel, it'sjust you.
On your p's and q's, you know,your, your, uh, senses are
heightened so that then again,the guardian angel is looking
out for me.
You know, because I almostcrossed the street, it's you and
you know, right, right, right,your, your instincts, your
natural instincts, right, youknow, like we talk about.
(12:27):
You know, when we walk someplaces, certain neighborhoods,
or seeing things or whatever,there's things that we notice,
there's sounds that we hear thatwe like, oh, no, look out, you
know, it's again, that's methinking.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, you know it could go either way, it can go
either way, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's what makes you happy.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, I don't really.
I don't know if I can believein it, though I mean I do, but
I'm like then, you know, whydon't we see them?
You know, like I haven't seenmine, right, I don't think I
have personally have one, justsaying Well, I mean again, but
(13:09):
if I do, but I, I've called itout a few times I would speak to
it If I do have it, showyourself yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But they didn't listen.
Yeah, no, no.
Well, they probably did, andthat's when you didn't stub your
toe when you walked out of theroom.
Oh, okay, see.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What happens if I was sitting already?
Then it was that you got up andyou didn't fall.
Maybe they can't showthemselves.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
They caught you before you fell.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They can't show themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
They can't show themselves, then it's just a
ghost.
What was the movie thatWhat's-His-Face did, where he
fell and became a human being?
Not Nick Nolte, nicholas Cage,nicholas Cage.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I know what movie you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, the girl's on the bike.
She dies and then he's stuck onEarth.
Remember that movie?
What's-his-face was in it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
No, Michael was a comedy that he's stuck on earth.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Remember that movie?
What's any?
Was in it michael?
No, that's no.
Michael was a comedy.
That was john travolta.
Well, I'm sorry, I'm gonna geta face off.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, face off oh yeah, nice, nice, but yeah, I
mean, like I said, you know it'swhat it is that you want it to
be.
You know like, uh, not sometrying to change up, so, but
they've said that, uh, hell,heaven and hell.
Isn't what you are, what webelieve here, heaven and hell
(14:28):
would be, it's what it is thatwe die with that in our mind.
That puts us into heaven orhell.
So, whatever we're feeling likefor cause, they say, your life
flashes before your eyes beforeyou die.
You see everything, you seeeverything and you feel it, so
that then, whatever you feel,just before the lights
(14:49):
officially go out, is whereyou're going to end up being.
Yeah, yeah, so if you feel likeyou did something, that you
were bad and you have to repent,or whatever the case may be,
that's where you're going toturn around and be in your head.
That's where your spirit'sgoing to be, because that was
the last feeling you had.
That's why they say thatthere's ghosts and that ghosts
stay, and they don't go toheaven, because they get stuck.
(15:10):
You know what I mean.
Like that though.
Well again, it's all what youdo, that's unfinished business.
Right, all of the above,because now you've done
something, so then you have todo something or take care of
your unfinished business.
What you feel is unfinishedbusiness.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, it happens the other way too, where people who
are dying prolong themselvesfrom dying until they get all
their stuff done.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They get everything completed, everything done and
they know that's freaky.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And then it's the most amazing thing.
Well, I'm going to tell youwhat I'm leaving a lot of shit
incomplete.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So I'm saying it goes both ways.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So it's both.
Either way it freaks you out.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, I'm leaving a lot of shit incomplete.
I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh no, I'm going to would be cool as shit.
You know what I mean.
If I did have one, at least youknow.
Don't even worry about me, Justworry about myself and these
kids, that's all.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I want to go back to what you said before about if
your guardian angels is your pet.
So now do you believe that yourpets, that you have here now,
your three puppies, that they'reyour guardian angels?
Because some beliefs are thatyour pets are your guardian
angel or they could be yourguardian angel.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's where my manifestation is there.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Be cool as shit, but I don't think so though.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
What do you think your spirit animal will be
Animal.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your spirit animal will be On the spot, yeah All
right, you, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Quick pass Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I already know my spirit go ahead.
I'm listening to one of those.
Uh oh, that's what you did wait, wait, I went here.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He knows his guy, it's a koala bear koala.
Okay, you know that fuckingfits.
Dude, that fits, I know.
Okay, you know it's crazy,right, american eagle, american
eagle.
Oh, okay, all right, I can seethat that works, just fly man.
Fly like a eagle.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Just glide and just soar, man, that's crazy.
Come on, bro, that'd be thebest I'm with it, bro, I'm there
.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, nope, I'm with it, I'm with it.
So I got koala bearReincarnation.
Now we're over there.
Now, there you go, you got akoala bear and that, bro, that
fits you like crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Perfectly, dude.
Yes, that's great man.
Yes, yes, kung fu panda, youcan lift your sleeves.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, yep, kung fu panda, all freaking day dude.
Oh my God, that is yeah, that'sperfect.
Master, yo, that is great.
Yeah, are we going by realanimals or are we going by
mythological?
No, I would think.
More real, more real, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So then Some that I may have lost before.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, I'd probably be a dog.
I wouldn't my spirit animal.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So now, how funny would that be if we had AI make
a photo of me as a koala bearand you as a dog and you as an
eagle?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
that would be great, that would be so yeah, we have
to see what that looks like.
You gotta see what that lookslike.
I think I say the other onethat it walks behind you yeah,
yeah yeah, it might probably belike a rock wire.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Oh, that's true, you can have a spirit animal behind
us.
But that would be funny, as,like, we are spirit animals.
You know what I mean.
Right, right, right Right.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, we could be.
There was a show or somethinglike that.
I've heard it, but that wasn'tme, that was Tom.
But yeah, man, listen, you know, I just think that me.
You know, on the serious tip,that it's really seriously one
of those things where it's whatyou want it to be.
You got an angel.
You know what I mean.
(18:41):
I like it.
I mean I think it's cool.
It's cool to have to think thatyou have that extra.
The only way I would thinkthere would really be.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
One is so to prevent something from happening, yeah,
or you know, guiding you in theright direction you know, yeah,
something silly like that that'sbe, it would be, but why,
though?
You know how bad would it bekind of thing?
I mean, would it just be forthat person and their whoever,
their family, or does everybodyget affected because of this
(19:09):
kind of thing, whatever it is?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I don't know, I'm thinking outside the box.
Yeah, no, because I mean, youfigure, they got to see each
other, the guardian angels Likeright now we're in here,
guardian angels.
They were hanging out overthere watching us do this,
talking shit about us, thesefreaking guys.
They got us here again.
I wanted to watch, you know, Iwanted to watch something on TV.
They got me over here.
But yeah, I mean, you knowyou're right, I think you're
(19:36):
right, you know.
I don't know, man, it's one ofthose things where I mean I
guess, do I, should I believe insomething like that?
You know, do I keep that hopethat there's something looking
out for me like that?
You know, you know what.
If.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I do believe in a spirit animal, I guess I have to
believe in that right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Why not Same?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
thing, really Same thing, mm-hmm.
You know That's's true, becauseyou probably get better from
the from the animal than youwith the human.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah yeah, you can think about it and, like I was
saying too, like you know, youlook at the religions and, like
I told you know, I grew up alittle bit in the santeria.
My aunt used to tell me, ohyeah, that I had this, that my
guardian angel was this big soup, like a big, muscular person.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Wow, that's like I have my like, that's my, I guess
my presence when I walk into aroom Like a big wrestler Right
Like, yeah, this is a big likebecause it's your spirit, right?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Like, that's the idea.
So then again, that was youknow, I hate to really know what
mine was.
Well, I mean but again Iprobably turn out being a
giraffe or something like that.
No, no, no, no.
If it's an animal, you know ifit's a person?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Which is cool I don't mind the giraffe.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Well then, if it was a person, and who you think you
are, like I said mine, I've beentold that you know, suggested,
felt, whatever that it was likeyou know, this big muscle thing,
like just this big muscle boundguy kind of thing, or just a
strong, because of not to soundsuper conceited, but my presence
when I walk into a room,especially when people know me,
like I belong, you know what I'msaying, you do.
(21:08):
So then now, if you, like Isaid, would yours be?
If it's not an animal, whatwould the figure look like?
I don't know, I don't want likeblue eyes.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Here's my confusion, so check this out.
Here's my dilemma.
I am adopted right, right, somy guardian angel can be anybody
, like you said.
So if I get someone that Idon't know from my natural
family right or origin of or?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
whatever, and you think about that, so now I have
that to throw in there too,right.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And it would be a good person because you would
hope.
Well, I'm only going to sayonly because if it's got an
angel, of course it would be.
You would hope they would be Ifit was somebody who was from
your natural family.
Right, right that because ofthe time you now they want to,
you know, just watch you growand live your life and be where
you are, so then they're goingto point you in the right
(22:02):
direction, right to make up forwhat they feel is, you know, hey
anything, anything is possible.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, anything is possible.
Yeah, just made it positive,though I'm serious because
there's so many when you watchthings and read about them and
I'm not, you know, like theconspiracies right right like,
but just but, just how we'restarting to figure things out
and you're like, wow, this isstarting to go right in that
direction.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You know which is cool.
At the same time it's superscary.
But it's cool because you startto understand things.
More you know, and they startto understand and break things
down.
So you know the whole guardianangel thing.
I'm sure you know.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, you know, I don't know, I just I kind of
like the idea.
You know, the more we talkabout it now, you know, I like
the idea of you know having thatsomeone you know looking up,
you know for you and putting youin the right direction and
stuff.
You know, what I mean Keepingyou from doing something that
you may regret later.
(23:02):
You stuff.
You know what I mean Keepingyou from doing something that
you may regret later.
You know, you know I mean andthink about the think about
anything that you said.
So you had asked before.
You know how do you know thatthey're really looking out?
Think of how many decisionsthat you made that were, or
something that you did whenyou're like right, right.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, I'm'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You know what I mean because you had that.
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That voice in the back of your head.
Oh yeah, I can recall that thathappens, yeah you know what I
think?
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna turnaround and go back yeah, yeah,
or like maybe I shouldn't dothat, yeah, yeah yeah, right
sometimes it happens to mesometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, like you know, this is when I turn around.
I believe, like you know, myguardian angel or my spirit
person would be is you know thatbig crazy?
you know, like you said, like arock wire or that, that big
muscle bond, because I'm justlike, let's go see what's over
there real quick.
You know that kind of stufffreaking hilarious.
And that then now does yourwould, your guardian angel, as
(24:02):
I'm thinking about it because Ijust said it would that show
your power, and you know what Imean like that's, that's your
character, that's yourpersonality.
So, like I said, panda all day.
Is you bro?
Like check it out koala.
Sorry, koala, check it out,that's what they use.
Yeah, check it out, I do havekoala.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Traditional Christian teachings generally describe
angel as spiritual beingsdistinct from animals.
However, some people believeGod can send protection through
animals, even if they aren'tliterally angels.
Spiritual and new angel beliefs.
Some believe animals can bespirit, guides and messages
(24:41):
offering protection and guidance.
A certain need of american andindigenous traditions hold the
animal can be guardians ortotems that watch over a person.
People who experience deepbonds with the pets sometimes
feel presence even after theypass away.
Yeah, you know that's deep,Because you know we've lost pets
(25:04):
and we know what that means.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, See, and the funny, the crazy, like so I
don't, I can't, I can't messwith animals or pets like that,
and then me thinking about minebeing a wildlife.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You did say you felt that way about the cat.
When the cat passed away though, yeah, I did say you felt that
way about the cat.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
When the cat passed away, though, yeah, it gave me
that moment.
Yeah, no, no, it happens, bro,it did.
Wow, that's cool.
Yeah, it's wild.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, listen, everybody needsthat something, you know, and I
know I say it a lot on the show.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm just going to say this guy, you, you see, we have
the music on the whole time.
We're sitting here.
Yeah, oh, I hope it's the wholetime it might.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You know, I don't think it might not I hope it
doesn't pick it up.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
We're not gonna.
It's very fake because you getcopyright strikes.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Oh, shit, yeah, no, I don't think you can hear any of
them we got.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We got the good.
These are good, yeah, good micsand stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I'm just saying now we should be fine okay yeah, but
um yeah, like you said, yourspirit, you know our, our, our
presence, our personalities, ourstrengths, our weaknesses, I
believe, are all due to what webelieve and feel are could be
our.
You know our spirit animals, oryou know our guardian angels,
(26:21):
that extra voice in the back ofour head, our conscience.
So, whatever the case may be,you know, dude sorry, how did
you even hear?
Like yo, he hears this I and Ihave tinnitus yeah I was trying
not to sing it, but you know youget.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You'll get copyrighted.
I couldn't help it.
I couldn't help it.
Man, I'm like, yeah, playingthe music, though, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
That is too funny.
But yeah, you know, I don'tknow.
I think that you know it's whatyou make of it, it's what you
bring you know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You know everybody has their own path.
Man, right is my belief, mine'snot right or wrong.
Okay, all right.
Everybody's is what it is tothem.
I have no say or any right toclaim anything in regards to
what you have on your on yourright, right, right, right.
(27:11):
We all walk a different path,right, you have one.
Who am I to say your path isnot the right path?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know what the yeah, and that you believe in
what kind of guardian you?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
have Right, but I'm just saying Right, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That's all I mean.
Yeah, no, no, it makes sense, Iget you, it makes sense, you
know your tongue, you all rightthere, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's like you started singing Did.
Did I do something wrong?
Now you don't hear the music?
Yeah, see.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's funny.
Yeah, I think that you know webecause we all look for that
need to have you know to believein something A higher power man
.
A higher power, yeah and that'swhere we are.
There was the movie shit, notNarnia, with the animals.
People had their spirit,animals Right.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Little kids Animation or.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
No live action.
Nicole Kidman was the villainin the movie and all the kids
they had, all people, they allhad their spirit animals, yeah
yeah, I don't know that one.
I can't think of the name of itright now.
I wanted to say Narnia, butit's not.
Narnia the Compass oh, I thinkI've seen that Something,
Compass.
I'm not familiar with that,yeah, it's a good flick.
It was all right, you didn'tlike it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It was good.
I saw it like once or twice.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I didn't really get too into it, but it was cool,
yeah, and like I said, it's acool flick, it's really groovy,
but because of what we'respeaking on now, everybody had a
spirit animal when they wereborn.
Later, the animal that thatchild was going to be was going
to represent them, or whateveryou want to call it was that,
and the animal was there andprotected them and everything.
(28:45):
And they ended up, um, killingthe person, the people because
it wasn't just kids, it waspeople too, I mean adults um,
but they, if they caught thespirit animal and they killed it
, then the kid would be likelost, like the kid would just be
walking, or the person wouldjust be like, just like, almost
like, not a zombie, but justlike their life would suck,
(29:06):
right right, they would just bedragging, they would be
devastated.
Yeah right, and that's what itwas.
It was taking a piece of themaway, right?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Listen, when you lose your animals, man, it hurts.
Yeah, lose your animals, man,it hurts, yeah, and people don't
get it.
If you don't own one, you don'tunderstand Trust me.
They steal your heart.
That's what happens, and it'snot a bad thing.
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And you go back for more every time.
They're a member of your family, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I think I'm more the American Indian way of thinking.
Okay, you know, Buddha,American Indian, that kind of
stuff, versus you know, thereare some things from Judaism
that are cool stories and thingslike that.
But something's happening.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's going to turn the music off.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, Just what is he doing?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
he went up.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Alexa, stop music.
That's all I have to do that'sit done yeah, so.
That's what we were justtalking about.
We got interrupted.
Kenny had to get up abruptly,real quick Anyway.
Anyway yeah, jeez, what thehell were we just talking about?
We were talking about theNative Americans, right Native
(30:27):
Americans.
Yes, I lean more towards thatversion of thinking because it's
more spiritual.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Right, right, right.
I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's nothing saying that I have to follow.
This means you're part of aclique, You're part of a web.
You know everybody's connectedkind of thing Right exactly.
Right, and there's my puppyright there talking to me right
now.
Kenny went upstairs to go usethe restroom and the dogs are
barking now.
Oh, that's good.
(30:57):
So, yeah, those are my guardianangels right there.
You know, I think anything ispossible.
You know who's to say that itdoesn't happen.
We won't really know until, Iguess, when we go to the other
side.
You know it's true, so it'strue there.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's true.
There's no way of knowing.
No, well, we will know.
That's why.
It's all you know, it's all,basically, you know, kind of
mythology.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Right Like in the sense you know.
It's like you gotta just yeah.
It's the only way to know.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's right.
It's the only way to knowthat's right.
It's the only way to know.
They say, they say, if you deepmeditate you can get to the
same.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I've heard that too.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You can get to the same level of that, but it's
more.
You know that you're at theother place, you're, you're
separated, you know.
I mean you're just, and theysay the holy, you know, know
what is to let go.
So, like when you're laying inbed and you're listening to
something, this is what I do nowI just listen for everything
(32:06):
instead of just the one thing,because now I'm just letting my
senses just do what they'resupposed to do so now I'm just
and it's just I guess my mind,isn't that called mindful
meditation?
Yeah, it's good.
It makes me write the fuck out,just be aware of everything.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Right, be one with nature.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Be like water.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yes, be the cup.
Yeah, but that's the I mean.
So then that's your moment.
You know what I'm saying.
That's when you're at yourpeace.
So do you really have aguardian angel, your own, like
person?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
No, I think, of course, I give myself a lot of
credit because I've come a longway in life in general, right
From where I was where I startedto where I am now.
I think I'm a way better placethan I was when I was younger,
you know.
So I think that has a lot to dowith me being smart and trying
to do the right thing, the bestthat I can, making mistakes
(33:04):
along the way, like we all do.
But you know what the fuck?
I think it's more.
Maybe somebody's watching.
I don't think they intercede somuch.
You know what I mean, right?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
right right.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I think they're there .
And if you get hurt orsomething happens, they're there
when you die, kind of thing.
Right, you think then theywould show themselves to you
when you were dying.
So what do you think?
But see, now everybody alwayssays they go to the light, they
don't see anybody until they getwhere they're going, and then
they see people, right?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
right.
So their life flashed beforethe eyes and then their uncle
shows up, hey.
Uncle Bob, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
They go wait.
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
here.
Why are you here?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Who let you in here?
Where am I?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Right, exactly and go , but you.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Uncle Bob.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, exactly that's funny, and we just mess up
people, up my name's Bob Hi andwe just mess up people up.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
My name's Bob Hi, Bob my dad's name was Bob.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
No, but then that makes you know, I guess.
But then that changes what youhad asked earlier, which is Is
your guardian angel somebodythat you know?
Because if you really don't seeanybody, I always try to guess
if it was, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And everybody that's gone so far.
I didn't get a really good hiton any of them, to be honest
with you.
Okay, but that's what I'msaying.
I may be small.
Maybe, no, definitely not.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But because now of what you're saying, we don't see
.
Supposedly, we don't see ourfamily members until we go to
the light and come out on theother side.
Your guardian angel wouldn't besomebody that you know, because
you're going to see otherpeople.
What happens if I die?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
go to heaven or wherever it is, to the light, to
the peaceful place you hope,and I see someone that I don't
know.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
That's your guide, that's your person.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It could be from my family Ancestry.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
But why would they first time?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
why would they want to see us?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
well, because.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean think about it curious, like, oh, we got a new
family member or they're proudof what you are, what you've
become, who you are.
Welcome, you know I mean pickwhatever good thing, dad great,
great, great great grandson yeah, I know I'm a really good guy.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
But that would be wild, that, yeah, because I
forgot.
You know I didn't think aboutthat.
Knowing relatives, naturalright relatives, that would come
and see, I think of that kindof stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, that's the kind of mind I have.
I talk to my wife and tell herthese things.
She's like you are absolutelynuts, yeah definitely, because
I'm like well, think about it.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You know well, have you.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
That's why you ever solve a show in front of your
wife when you're sitting withher?
Yeah, or you tell her watch,this is what's gonna happen, abc
boom, you do it, and then she'slike, how the fuck did you?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
yeah, yeah how did you know?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
that I'm gifted.
Guardian agent told me man.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yes, yes but no, but that's why I, that's why I did
the other reason I did theancestry instead of 23 and me
because, right, because that onethey had the um, you can do the
genealogy, right, you?
If you pay for that, then you,all you got to do is have your,
the year you were born and whereyou were born, and then the
(36:16):
same thing with your parents,the, their birth date and where
they were.
I wouldn't know that thing withyour parents, the, their birth
date and where they were.
I will not, I wouldn't even havethat, so you can track them and
then all of a sudden, youthrough, like all census records
you track people and you justkeep going backwards I won't
have that information it gotcrazy when I went to my father's
side because he had ancestorsthat came here all the way from
(36:38):
the 1600s like, like like dutchsettlers all the way back, yeah,
and, and they tracked throughchurches and then their
ancestors were tracked in europe.
And I'm tracking in europe, I'mgoing, I went all the way to,
like the 1400s that's wild.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Or 1500, well, I can say it was insane prophets go
back pretty far too.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, for sure it's kind of cool, though You're
like oh this person's my familymember?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, I've never done it.
My cousin did it.
He did it for my father's side.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I come from.
You know, you guys, when youtalk about certain things you
just take for granted thosethings Dutch names, you know.
I don't remember Dutch names.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That's funny Crazy.
But yeah so you never know, itcould be somebody like that, and
that Dutch is like not even oneor two percent of me, that's
crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That's all I was able to follow, because they had
better genealogical.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Dutch is what you had .
Dutch was a big one for you.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's like barely like two percent, but that's where I
was able to track, because theyhad the better records, I guess
at that time.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh, I got you.
They kept better records at thetime, right yeah, versus what
you got with the other ones,like if it was Italian or
Spanish or any of them.
Italian, I was huge.
I was up there 59% or somethinglike that, yeah it's ridiculous
and from Sicily.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
So we went way off of from.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, from England, but I'm talking
about what I found out were mine, but I couldn't find anything
out.
I'm sorry we did jump off, butthe point I was trying to make
is that I didn't find outanything you may have been able
to find.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, we jumped off because we were talking about
ancestors.
Your ancestors on the otherside could be Right.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
They could be.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You could bump into them for sure and not even know
it.
But then know afterwards You'dbe like oh man, that was such a
spade.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Hey, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I told you, but that's the other thing too, is
that's another belief is thatyour ancestors are your, and
angels too.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
mean you would hope and think so and that's the case
.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be crazy,yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I mean now, when you think about somebody who has
passed right, you know you thinkabout them more often than
others that have passed.
Could those be that your familyas a whole?
They're all like they're takingturns, like it's your shift.
It's your shift when you thinkabout them, you mean, yeah.
So, like you know, I thinkabout my grandparents a lot.
You know uncles and stuff likethat.
(39:03):
You know now my nephew and youknow good girlfriend, friend of
ours, that from a while back.
You know I see them every sooften.
I think about them, the fuckwas that.
Your puppies.
Somebody came in and did it,that motherfucker was on the
table, oh he got scared.
Did you hear how hard that was?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
bro, it was like somebody body slammed somebody
off the floor.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Sorry everyone.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
We're doing a podcast and we're loving every minute
of it.
And then somehow we had a hugenoise from the ceiling the
doggies.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Unfortunately I should have the tinnies, but you
know that those people would bethen that.
Then it could be that it's yourwhole family.
I'm gonna tell you what, though, real quick, tom, because we
got only a few minutes left.
If you don't believe in allthat stuff like that, you know,
basically atheists, right right.
What made you dig up, look up,find out what your spirit animal
(39:53):
was, because that's part of youknow I don't see so much
religious or spiritual's morespiritual.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Right, it's spiritual .
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But if you're atheist , I'm just asking now but I'm
not sure.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
No, no, no, but you're not an atheist.
You're not technically anatheist.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
No, I've kind of shifted away from that, but
definitely not in any sort ofreligious belief.
So you know I believe moremetaphysical stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh, okay, got you Right.
So you know like I believe morelike metaphysical stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh right, right, right, gotcha Kind of like we're
in the I don't want to say likea matrix type thing.
No, I get you Like that, likemaybe where we are is like a
simulation, but not in the senseof like being imprisoned, like
we're here voluntarily.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Right, you know what I mean.
And then when we you know kindof, and it goes right into
freaking Matrix.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's not really simulation theory, though it's
hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It's not really like we're really here, but we're
also you think we alreadyhappened, but like we're also
not here.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
We're just an aftershock.
Or we're like just a colonyhere.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
You know what saying?
Like with the little guys inthis solar system, like, like I
think I've mentioned on the showbefore, like I believe that
like afterlife is also beforelife right.
Like to say that like like youknow what I mean.
Like, like we came fromsomewhere and then we're here
for a little bit of time andthen we go back right, some
people call it yeah, and when wecame here, we obviously were
super young, because we don'tremember anything.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
But they see there's some people that do remember
their previous life, but thennow or being in.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, yeah.
A place of, but it kind ofleads into a little bit of
simulation theory too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
That makes sense.
I get it so many differentthings.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It definitely falls under the genre, and of course
aliens are involved in that too.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Again, there's so many different things, so many
different people, ways, thoughtsfeelings, religion.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I'm interested in it because you see a lot of it with
the numbers.
Remember 851?
Thankfully, I still see thatnumber.
Yeah, all the time, that was myphone number uh mine too, yeah
um and uh.
I'm like you know, is theresomething to that?
You know what I mean.
So I think more spiritual, moreconnection to the to it right
(42:16):
versus versus giving your selfto something.
You know what I mean just whereyou're comfortable, and to each
his own, of course.
I mean whatever works for you,but for me that's what I like,
you know.
So I think Sphero's Wings is acool thing to think about.
I don't count on them.
I think some people do.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Right, you know a little more extreme yeah, I'm
sure um maybe not, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Well, it's interesting subject, though I
thought it would be cool just totalk about it, because it went
in all the uh directions.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We hoped it would yeah, yeah, yeah, because we go
everywhere we have a go all over.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
We're geniuses, adhd and all right, very quickly,
we're geniuses.
We're geniuses in our own mind.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, but, yeah, but yeah, if you have
one, great I guess, like yousaid, we'll find it in the end.
Yeah, you're like yo I told youto duck.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
We'll find that in the end.
Yeah, it's going to be that onedude that's standing out there.
Watch that last step.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
And one.
It's a doozy.
I told you not to get in there.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I told you to duck.
I said jump.
Yeah, that's funny.
I wonder if that would be too.
We'll end it on that funny Ifyour guardian angel, if you have
a guardian angel or your spiritanimal or whatever, if, when
you pass?
they're there and they stand upand they're yelling at you
because they were like I toldyou to duck.
You know what I mean, likeseriously, like I told you to
(43:38):
duck.
You know I mean like seriouslywhen they tell you like you
shouldn't have done this.
You know, give you that onething that they're holding on to
, and because you didn't do that, you didn't get that right.
You know what I mean.
Okay, that was still funny.
Oh, okay.
So with that, my peoples, thankyou all for listening.
Hope this one, this one, was alittle bit out there.
(44:00):
It wasn't our regular kind ofstuff.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It was good conversation.
I was digging it, enjoyed ityeah.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
So thank you everybody for listening, thank
you for joining us, catch useverywhere YouTube and all that
other stuff and love, peace andhair grease.
Live long and prosper.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
And go vegan.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Holla and prosper and go vegan holla.
I'm Lewis with Kenny and the Jersey Guy Tom.
What's?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
up.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
What's going on, brothers?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
How y'all doing.
I'm good man, Excellent.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
We are here again.
I love this time.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, it's the most favorite time of the month.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Absolutely yes, yeah, all good, yeah, it is good man
Anyway let's get right to it.
Then let's get into thebusiness.
Guardian Angels, what do youguys think?
Do you think they're real or doyou think that everybody, Like
you know, everybody has adifferent way of looking at it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
But it does root from certain things that we've grown
up with too.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know, Judaism, Christianity.
Right.
Every religion has some kind ofguardian angel and stuff Right.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And it pertains to angels and things of that sort.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Right, right.
So do you believe you have one?
I don't know, because you grewup jewish, right?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
yeah, it was funny.
Even though I did.
I never really heard aboutangels and stuff like that a lot
.
I did that on my own stuff thatI, you know I was geek, so
that's the kind of stuff I wouldlook into or read or watch when
I was going to school, got itsomething I would persist on my
(01:34):
own, didn't have any influencewith anybody else as far as my
parents were concerned.
I'd have to say that but yeah,you know, I don't, I don't know,
right, I feel you.
I do know, do you?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
believe in it.
Yeah, I'm not really.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Well, no, you're not really, but I mean so then what
would be, I guess, theequivalent for you, I mean as a
metaphor.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I believe in it.
Like oh you know you're like.
Oh, you looked out for me,you're my gardening angel.
Yeah, okay, I believe in it,like oh you know like oh, you
looked out for me.
You're my guardian angel.
You know, like that thing, butnot like in, like a.
You know like I actuallybelieve in a guardian angel.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But as a metaphor, like for someone who's like a
good doer, who, like you know,looked out for you Because of
you I was able to get tosomewhere on time or whatever it
might be.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah , it could be anybody.
You know what I mean.
Like it's just like.
I mean like even to me, likeyou saved my ass, yeah, yeah,
exactly yeah, you're my guardianangel, you know.
So that, then, that's the someof the thoughts, the theories,
some of the feelings from somepeople is because that's so,
that voice you hear in the backof your head, yeah, isn't like
so much your conscience as it issomeone, as it's your guardian,
rejecting as it is yourguardian angel.
(02:45):
It's your guardian angel.
That's no saying no, lewis.
Don't do that, tom Doc, youknow what I mean.
That's supposed to be yourguardian angel talking to you.
I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm not saying it doesn't.
You know what I mean.
Of course I believe in thesupernatural and all that stuff.
We're geeks.
Listen to, watch all that we'reoff the wall.
You know I wouldn't put it pastit that maybe I always try to
think who, what do you mean?
Who, who, like?
Wouldn't it be somebody youknew?
(03:19):
No, not necessarily.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No it could be.
It could be anybody, it couldbe anything or anybody.
So right.
So now we go for a hot second.
We'll do Christmas.
It's a wonderful life I'm notsaying that can only be people.
No, no, I'm saying, but it wouldbe that that's people trying to
do the right thing by beingyour voice to make sure that you
live righteous, like I said,and it's a wonderful life.
Clarence was the angel, hisguardian angel, and Clarence was
(03:42):
the was the, uh, the angel hisguardian angel.
And clarence, you know, wasstill trying to get to that
status.
He wanted his wings right, soto get his wings and all that
other stuff, but he would stayforever being george's guardian
angel, so he jumps in waterinstead, and then it all right
like that's
Speaker 2 (03:59):
right time a bell rings and angel gets his wings.
That's right, all right, that'senough.
Christmas, it's not even.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
We're just trying to get, we're trying to get to some
of the mothers, some of themothers, um, but you understand
what I'm saying.
So then it's not anybody, youwould know, it's just somebody
who's gonna look out for you, orwhatever it could be, whatever
saint you you know, I guess it'sso.
For me it's, it's that othervoice you know, it's that what
gives me the luck, points me inthe right direction, whatever
(04:25):
you know, um, so I guess I dokind of believe in it.
It, but it's like I said, whoit is is the issue, is the
question.
You know, right, you want that,you hope for I guess that it's
going to be somebody you know,somebody that liked then I would
think, can it be an animal?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Like a spirit animal.
Does it have to be someonewho's human in order for them to
be your guardian angel?
If you can have dogs in life,why can't you have them in death
?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well then it'd probably be whatever it is you
want it to be.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm just asking, I'm saying, I'm just putting out the
question I know the americanindians believed in a spirit
animal right, right, everybodyhad that.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And like when they would come out when a child was
born, they would stick theirhead out of the uh, the tent,
and you know, right, see, nositting bowl, you know all that
other stuff, you know yeah, Ihad a dirty joke.
My uncle told me a long timeago but I'm not gonna tell you
now.
But yeah, man, like I said,it's just one of those things
you know, I think.
I think a lot of us need likeenjoy having that extra
(05:37):
something yeah yeah, and to justbe like bruh.
It's, you know, just myconscience, you know to.
Oh my God, my guardian angeljust saved me from crossing the
street today.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
What's if a guardian angel is like a metaphysical,
like a non-physical entity thatjust kind of guides you?
You know what I mean, like apower source instead?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like makes things happen for you.
You know what I mean.
Kind a power source instead.
Yeah, like makes things happenfor you.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Kind of guides you in the right direction, like, oh
you know, oh, it's just luck,but is it?
You bumped into him.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So you're in.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Like from like another dimension, like a helper
, from like a fifth dimension.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know that's what we said in one of
the other episodes, that it waslike you know your dreams and
we're right back to time travelagain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Hey that's what we like.
Yeah, it always ties in.
Though it always ties in, itdoes.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's always, but because that's that geek part, I
know, but anyway, so then it's.
You know, is you, yeah, fromanother dimension, as you're
saying, or another time, orwhatever?
Wow, that's that voice, youknow.
I'm saying that's you, that'ssomeone who's well, yeah,
somebody you know.
Well, maybe it's justsubconscious.
Like I said, you know, it'sthat voice, it's just yours,
(06:57):
it's your seventh sense, right,if that makes any sense yeah you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
yeah, it's that thing .
People do believe in them youknow, they say they have.
They say you can summon, if youwant, right, your guardian
angel, right.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So now to show themselves, but our guardian.
So then, and so now.
Here's the next thing, though.
Saints, excuse me, would asaint then be your guardian
angel?
No, because he covers everybodyRight.
So then it's like networking.
He's the supervisor, you haveGod, and then you have the
directors and the supervisors.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You got your lieutenants Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So then would that be the same idea, I guess in some
sense.
Yeah, only because I'm saying Iknow in some religions people
pray to what they believe was aGod for everything.
So a God for water, a God forland.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
A God for this.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So then, were those our guardian angels?
Were those the saints?
Would that be equivalent, right, right, and we're not supposed
to.
Well, people who are religious,like that, you know, uh,
depending on what religion theypay homage to the saints, right?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
you know what I mean, right, I'm telling you man,
it's, it's wild because, youknow, I mean there's a lot of
things that I've done that.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm glad I had a guardian angel you know what I
mean it was a wild and crazyride.
Baby, you have one?
I think think so.
Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm.
What are you reading?
What are you seeing.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So Christianity, rooted in biblical teachings,
through an explicitly labeled asguardian angels versus Luke,
mathis or Matthew, I'm sorry1810, suggests angels watch over
individuals, particularlychildren.
Psalm 911 speaks at angelsguarding people in their ways.
(08:48):
Catholic Church teaches thateach person has a guardian angel
from birth.
That's the Christianity,judaism, the idea of angels and
divine messengers, and presentof the Torah and the Talmud.
Some Jewish traditions suggestthat angels intercede on behalf
(09:09):
of humans, which is kind of whatyou're talking about, ken.
you're more on that level iswhere you're at, which is fine
with me, because that's a goodone, because they just intercede
if necessary.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But here's where I'm going to.
You know where I'm going totake it.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's the idea.
No, no, go, let's go, that'sthe idea.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We still have Islam.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I didn't forget about that either, but you know I'm
going to take this right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Nope, go ahead.
No, but here we go.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Aliens.
Yes, man, I knew it I didn'twant to say it Like the meme.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Right.
Could it be an alien visitingfrom a different time or present
?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Because a lot of the stories in the Bible and Torah
about angels.
They're never described as likesome with wings that can fly.
It's always like they're likehuman looking Right.
Almost like a deity, yeah, yeahyeah, like that kind of thing,
like in the story of Sodom andGomorrah like the angels telling
those people to get out orwhatever, but they were just
(10:11):
described as like.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
They were told not to look back Right.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And that they rode on pillars of or clouds during the
day and pillars of fire Right.
What does that look like?
Yeah, ufos look like yeah, ufos, rockets, ufos or whatever,
ufos, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But that was more.
I don't know if those would sayguardian angels, as, more to
what people believe would havebeen, is a god.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So angels, guardian angels, I would think, same
realm.
So if that's what angels are,then maybe it's garden angels,
yeah maybe from anotherdimension, you know yeah I, I,
I'm, I.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So for you know, like again, you know we play the
fence sometimes, so you know Iget it.
I.
I think that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I just wish that then he would take me for a
ride in a spaceship but,whatever you know really go for
a ride hell, yeah, what's good Isaid that when I was 14, bro.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's just me, my belief on like religious stuff,
but you know, I could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Right, I'm not going to lie.
No, tom, no, go ahead.
What you got, let's see.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Islam.
You said you were.
Islam.
Muslims believe in guardianangels Karamanan kadaban I
apologize for butchering it.
If I did, of course I probablydid who record a person's deeds.
Angels also protect and guidebelievers per Allah's will.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, right Right.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So the spiritual belief in here too.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And I mean like, because of how I believe in my
you know higher being what myreligion is to me.
You look at all the differentthings that people believe, uh,
when you tell them and as far asthe religion is concerned,
right, so that then is it just,it's just your subconscious,
(12:04):
it's like it's not even anything, it's just you.
There's no guardian angel, it'sjust you.
On your p's and q's, you know,your, your, uh, senses are
heightened so that then again,the guardian angel is looking
out for me.
You know, because I almostcrossed the street, it's you and
you know, right, right, right,your, your instincts, your
natural instincts, right, youknow, like we talk about.
(12:27):
You know, when we walk someplaces, certain neighborhoods,
or seeing things or whatever,there's things that we notice,
there's sounds that we hear thatwe like, oh, no, look out, you
know, it's again, that's methinking.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, you know it could go either way, it can go
either way, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's what makes you happy.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, I don't really.
I don't know if I can believein it, though I mean I do, but
I'm like then, you know, whydon't we see them?
You know, like I haven't seenmine, right, I don't think I
have personally have one, justsaying Well, I mean again, but
(13:09):
if I do, but I, I've called itout a few times I would speak to
it If I do have it, showyourself yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But they didn't listen.
Yeah, no, no.
Well, they probably did, andthat's when you didn't stub your
toe when you walked out of theroom.
Oh, okay, see.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What happens if I was sitting already?
Then it was that you got up andyou didn't fall.
Maybe they can't showthemselves.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
They caught you before you fell.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They can't show themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
They can't show themselves, then it's just a
ghost.
What was the movie thatWhat's-His-Face did, where he
fell and became a human being?
Not Nick Nolte, nicholas Cage,nicholas Cage.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I know what movie you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, the girl's on the bike.
She dies and then he's stuck onEarth.
Remember that movie?
What's-his-face was in it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
No, Michael was a comedy that he's stuck on earth.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Remember that movie?
What's any?
Was in it michael?
No, that's no.
Michael was a comedy.
That was john travolta.
Well, I'm sorry, I'm gonna geta face off.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, face off oh yeah, nice, nice, but yeah, I
mean, like I said, you know it'swhat it is that you want it to
be.
You know like, uh, not sometrying to change up, so, but
they've said that, uh, hell,heaven and hell.
Isn't what you are, what webelieve here, heaven and hell
(14:28):
would be, it's what it is thatwe die with that in our mind.
That puts us into heaven orhell.
So, whatever we're feeling likefor cause, they say, your life
flashes before your eyes beforeyou die.
You see everything, you seeeverything and you feel it, so
that then, whatever you feel,just before the lights
(14:49):
officially go out, is whereyou're going to end up being.
Yeah, yeah, so if you feel likeyou did something, that you
were bad and you have to repent,or whatever the case may be,
that's where you're going toturn around and be in your head.
That's where your spirit'sgoing to be, because that was
the last feeling you had.
That's why they say thatthere's ghosts and that ghosts
stay, and they don't go toheaven, because they get stuck.
(15:10):
You know what I mean.
Like that though.
Well again, it's all what youdo, that's unfinished business.
Right, all of the above,because now you've done
something, so then you have todo something or take care of
your unfinished business.
What you feel is unfinishedbusiness.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Well, it happens the other way too, where people who
are dying prolong themselvesfrom dying until they get all
their stuff done.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They get everything completed, everything done and
they know that's freaky.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And then it's the most amazing thing.
Well, I'm going to tell youwhat I'm leaving a lot of shit
incomplete.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So I'm saying it goes both ways.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So it's both.
Either way it freaks you out.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, I'm leaving a lot of shit incomplete.
I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh no, I'm going to would be cool as shit.
You know what I mean.
If I did have one, at least youknow.
Don't even worry about me, Justworry about myself and these
kids, that's all.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I want to go back to what you said before about if
your guardian angels is your pet.
So now do you believe that yourpets, that you have here now,
your three puppies, that they'reyour guardian angels?
Because some beliefs are thatyour pets are your guardian
angel or they could be yourguardian angel.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's where my manifestation is there.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Be cool as shit, but I don't think so though.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
What do you think your spirit animal will be
Animal.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Your spirit animal will be On the spot, yeah All
right, you, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Quick pass Nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I already know my spirit go ahead.
I'm listening to one of those.
Uh oh, that's what you did wait, wait, I went here.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
He knows his guy, it's a koala bear koala.
Okay, you know that fuckingfits.
Dude, that fits, I know.
Okay, you know it's crazy,right, american eagle, american
eagle.
Oh, okay, all right, I can seethat that works, just fly man.
Fly like a eagle.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Just glide and just soar, man, that's crazy.
Come on, bro, that'd be thebest I'm with it, bro, I'm there
.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, nope, I'm with it, I'm with it.
So I got koala bearReincarnation.
Now we're over there.
Now, there you go, you got akoala bear and that, bro, that
fits you like crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Perfectly, dude.
Yes, that's great man.
Yes, yes, kung fu panda, youcan lift your sleeves.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, yep, kung fu panda, all freaking day dude.
Oh my God, that is yeah, that'sperfect.
Master, yo, that is great.
Yeah, are we going by realanimals or are we going by
mythological?
No, I would think.
More real, more real, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So then Some that I may have lost before.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, I'd probably be a dog.
I wouldn't my spirit animal.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So now, how funny would that be if we had AI make
a photo of me as a koala bearand you as a dog and you as an
eagle?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
that would be great, that would be so yeah, we have
to see what that looks like.
You gotta see what that lookslike.
I think I say the other onethat it walks behind you yeah,
yeah yeah, it might probably belike a rock wire.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Oh, that's true, you can have a spirit animal behind
us.
But that would be funny, as,like, we are spirit animals.
You know what I mean.
Right, right, right Right.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, we could be.
There was a show or somethinglike that.
I've heard it, but that wasn'tme, that was Tom.
But yeah, man, listen, you know, I just think that me.
You know, on the serious tip,that it's really seriously one
of those things where it's whatyou want it to be.
You got an angel.
You know what I mean.
(18:41):
I like it.
I mean I think it's cool.
It's cool to have to think thatyou have that extra.
The only way I would thinkthere would really be.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
One is so to prevent something from happening, yeah,
or you know, guiding you in theright direction you know, yeah,
something silly like that that'sbe, it would be, but why,
though?
You know how bad would it bekind of thing?
I mean, would it just be forthat person and their whoever,
their family, or does everybodyget affected because of this
(19:09):
kind of thing, whatever it is?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I don't know, I'm thinking outside the box.
Yeah, no, because I mean, youfigure, they got to see each
other, the guardian angels Likeright now we're in here,
guardian angels.
They were hanging out overthere watching us do this,
talking shit about us, thesefreaking guys.
They got us here again.
I wanted to watch, you know, Iwanted to watch something on TV.
They got me over here.
But yeah, I mean, you knowyou're right, I think you're
(19:36):
right, you know.
I don't know, man, it's one ofthose things where I mean I
guess, do I, should I believe insomething like that?
You know, do I keep that hopethat there's something looking
out for me like that?
You know, you know what.
If.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I do believe in a spirit animal, I guess I have to
believe in that right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Why not Same?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
thing, really Same thing, mm-hmm.
You know That's's true, becauseyou probably get better from
the from the animal than youwith the human.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah yeah, you can think about it and, like I was
saying too, like you know, youlook at the religions and, like
I told you know, I grew up alittle bit in the santeria.
My aunt used to tell me, ohyeah, that I had this, that my
guardian angel was this big soup, like a big, muscular person.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Wow, that's like I have my like, that's my, I guess
my presence when I walk into aroom Like a big wrestler Right
Like, yeah, this is a big likebecause it's your spirit, right?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Like, that's the idea.
So then again, that was youknow, I hate to really know what
mine was.
Well, I mean but again Iprobably turn out being a
giraffe or something like that.
No, no, no, no.
If it's an animal, you know ifit's a person?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Which is cool I don't mind the giraffe.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Well then, if it was a person, and who you think you
are, like I said mine, I've beentold that you know, suggested,
felt, whatever that it was likeyou know, this big muscle thing,
like just this big muscle boundguy kind of thing, or just a
strong, because of not to soundsuper conceited, but my presence
when I walk into a room,especially when people know me,
like I belong, you know what I'msaying, you do.
(21:08):
So then now, if you, like Isaid, would yours be?
If it's not an animal, whatwould the figure look like?
I don't know, I don't want likeblue eyes.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Here's my confusion, so check this out.
Here's my dilemma.
I am adopted right, right, somy guardian angel can be anybody
, like you said.
So if I get someone that Idon't know from my natural
family right or origin of or?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
whatever, and you think about that, so now I have
that to throw in there too,right.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And it would be a good person because you would
hope.
Well, I'm only going to sayonly because if it's got an
angel, of course it would be.
You would hope they would be Ifit was somebody who was from
your natural family.
Right, right that because ofthe time you now they want to,
you know, just watch you growand live your life and be where
you are, so then they're goingto point you in the right
(22:02):
direction, right to make up forwhat they feel is, you know, hey
anything, anything is possible.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, anything is possible.
Yeah, just made it positive,though I'm serious because
there's so many when you watchthings and read about them and
I'm not, you know, like theconspiracies right right like,
but just but, just how we'restarting to figure things out
and you're like, wow, this isstarting to go right in that
direction.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You know which is cool.
At the same time it's superscary.
But it's cool because you startto understand things.
More you know, and they startto understand and break things
down.
So you know the whole guardianangel thing.
I'm sure you know.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, you know, I don't know, I just I kind of
like the idea.
You know, the more we talkabout it now, you know, I like
the idea of you know having thatsomeone you know looking up,
you know for you and putting youin the right direction and
stuff.
You know, what I mean Keepingyou from doing something that
you may regret later.
(23:02):
You stuff.
You know what I mean Keepingyou from doing something that
you may regret later.
You know, you know I mean andthink about the think about
anything that you said.
So you had asked before.
You know how do you know thatthey're really looking out?
Think of how many decisionsthat you made that were, or
something that you did whenyou're like right, right.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, I'm'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You know what I mean because you had that.
I've done that.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That voice in the back of your head.
Oh yeah, I can recall that thathappens, yeah you know what I
think?
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna turnaround and go back yeah, yeah,
or like maybe I shouldn't dothat, yeah, yeah yeah, right
sometimes it happens to mesometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, like you know, this is when I turn around.
I believe, like you know, myguardian angel or my spirit
person would be is you know thatbig crazy?
you know, like you said, like arock wire or that, that big
muscle bond, because I'm justlike, let's go see what's over
there real quick.
You know that kind of stufffreaking hilarious.
And that then now does yourwould, your guardian angel, as
(24:02):
I'm thinking about it because Ijust said it would that show
your power, and you know what Imean like that's, that's your
character, that's yourpersonality.
So, like I said, panda all day.
Is you bro?
Like check it out koala.
Sorry, koala, check it out,that's what they use.
Yeah, check it out, I do havekoala.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Traditional Christian teachings generally describe
angel as spiritual beingsdistinct from animals.
However, some people believeGod can send protection through
animals, even if they aren'tliterally angels.
Spiritual and new angel beliefs.
Some believe animals can bespirit, guides and messages
(24:41):
offering protection and guidance.
A certain need of american andindigenous traditions hold the
animal can be guardians ortotems that watch over a person.
People who experience deepbonds with the pets sometimes
feel presence even after theypass away.
Yeah, you know that's deep,Because you know we've lost pets
(25:04):
and we know what that means.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, See, and the funny, the crazy, like so I
don't, I can't, I can't messwith animals or pets like that,
and then me thinking about minebeing a wildlife.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You did say you felt that way about the cat.
When the cat passed away though, yeah, I did say you felt that
way about the cat.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
When the cat passed away, though, yeah, it gave me
that moment.
Yeah, no, no, it happens, bro,it did.
Wow, that's cool.
Yeah, it's wild.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, listen, everybody needsthat something, you know, and I
know I say it a lot on the show.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm just going to say this guy, you, you see, we have
the music on the whole time.
We're sitting here.
Yeah, oh, I hope it's the wholetime it might.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You know, I don't think it might not I hope it
doesn't pick it up.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
We're not gonna.
It's very fake because you getcopyright strikes.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Oh, shit, yeah, no, I don't think you can hear any of
them we got.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We got the good.
These are good, yeah, good micsand stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I'm just saying now we should be fine okay yeah, but
um yeah, like you said, yourspirit, you know our, our, our
presence, our personalities, ourstrengths, our weaknesses, I
believe, are all due to what webelieve and feel are could be
our.
You know our spirit animals, oryou know our guardian angels,
(26:21):
that extra voice in the back ofour head, our conscience.
So, whatever the case may be,you know, dude sorry, how did
you even hear?
Like yo, he hears this I and Ihave tinnitus yeah I was trying
not to sing it, but you know youget.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
You'll get copyrighted.
I couldn't help it.
I couldn't help it.
Man, I'm like, yeah, playingthe music, though, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
That is too funny.
But yeah, you know, I don'tknow.
I think that you know it's whatyou make of it, it's what you
bring you know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You know everybody has their own path.
Man, right is my belief, mine'snot right or wrong.
Okay, all right.
Everybody's is what it is tothem.
I have no say or any right toclaim anything in regards to
what you have on your on yourright, right, right, right.
(27:11):
We all walk a different path,right, you have one.
Who am I to say your path isnot the right path?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know what the yeah, and that you believe in
what kind of guardian you?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
have Right, but I'm just saying Right, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That's all I mean.
Yeah, no, no, it makes sense, Iget you, it makes sense, you
know your tongue, you all rightthere, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It's like you started singing Did.
Did I do something wrong?
Now you don't hear the music?
Yeah, see.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's funny.
Yeah, I think that you know webecause we all look for that
need to have you know to believein something A higher power man
.
A higher power, yeah and that'swhere we are.
There was the movie shit, notNarnia, with the animals.
People had their spirit,animals Right.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Little kids Animation or.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
No live action.
Nicole Kidman was the villainin the movie and all the kids
they had, all people, they allhad their spirit animals, yeah
yeah, I don't know that one.
I can't think of the name of itright now.
I wanted to say Narnia, butit's not.
Narnia the Compass oh, I thinkI've seen that Something,
Compass.
I'm not familiar with that,yeah, it's a good flick.
It was all right, you didn'tlike it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It was good.
I saw it like once or twice.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I didn't really get too into it, but it was cool,
yeah, and like I said, it's acool flick, it's really groovy,
but because of what we'respeaking on now, everybody had a
spirit animal when they wereborn.
Later, the animal that thatchild was going to be was going
to represent them, or whateveryou want to call it was that,
and the animal was there andprotected them and everything.
(28:45):
And they ended up, um, killingthe person, the people because
it wasn't just kids, it waspeople too, I mean adults um,
but they, if they caught thespirit animal and they killed it
, then the kid would be likelost, like the kid would just be
walking, or the person wouldjust be like, just like, almost
like, not a zombie, but justlike their life would suck,
(29:06):
right right, they would just bedragging, they would be
devastated.
Yeah right, and that's what itwas.
It was taking a piece of themaway, right?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Listen, when you lose your animals, man, it hurts.
Yeah, lose your animals, man,it hurts, yeah, and people don't
get it.
If you don't own one, you don'tunderstand Trust me.
They steal your heart.
That's what happens, and it'snot a bad thing.
That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And you go back for more every time.
They're a member of your family, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I think I'm more the American Indian way of thinking.
Okay, you know, Buddha,American Indian, that kind of
stuff, versus you know, thereare some things from Judaism
that are cool stories and thingslike that.
But something's happening.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's going to turn the music off.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, Just what is he doing?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
he went up.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Alexa, stop music.
That's all I have to do that'sit done yeah, so.
That's what we were justtalking about.
We got interrupted.
Kenny had to get up abruptly,real quick Anyway.
Anyway yeah, jeez, what thehell were we just talking about?
We were talking about theNative Americans, right Native
(30:27):
Americans.
Yes, I lean more towards thatversion of thinking because it's
more spiritual.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Right, right, right.
I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's nothing saying that I have to follow.
This means you're part of aclique, You're part of a web.
You know everybody's connectedkind of thing Right exactly.
Right, and there's my puppyright there talking to me right
now.
Kenny went upstairs to go usethe restroom and the dogs are
barking now.
Oh, that's good.
(30:57):
So, yeah, those are my guardianangels right there.
You know, I think anything ispossible.
You know who's to say that itdoesn't happen.
We won't really know until, Iguess, when we go to the other
side.
You know it's true, so it'strue there.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's true.
There's no way of knowing.
No, well, we will know.
That's why.
It's all you know, it's all,basically, you know, kind of
mythology.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Right Like in the sense you know.
It's like you gotta just yeah.
It's the only way to know.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's right.
It's the only way to knowthat's right.
It's the only way to know.
They say, they say, if you deepmeditate you can get to the
same.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I've heard that too.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You can get to the same level of that, but it's
more.
You know that you're at theother place, you're, you're
separated, you know.
I mean you're just, and theysay the holy, you know, know
what is to let go.
So, like when you're laying inbed and you're listening to
something, this is what I do nowI just listen for everything
(32:06):
instead of just the one thing,because now I'm just letting my
senses just do what they'resupposed to do so now I'm just
and it's just I guess my mind,isn't that called mindful
meditation?
Yeah, it's good.
It makes me write the fuck out,just be aware of everything.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Right, be one with nature.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Be like water.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yes, be the cup.
Yeah, but that's the I mean.
So then that's your moment.
You know what I'm saying.
That's when you're at yourpeace.
So do you really have aguardian angel, your own, like
person?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
No, I think, of course, I give myself a lot of
credit because I've come a longway in life in general, right
From where I was where I startedto where I am now.
I think I'm a way better placethan I was when I was younger,
you know.
So I think that has a lot to dowith me being smart and trying
to do the right thing, the bestthat I can, making mistakes
(33:04):
along the way, like we all do.
But you know what the fuck?
I think it's more.
Maybe somebody's watching.
I don't think they intercede somuch.
You know what I mean, right?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
right right.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I think they're there .
And if you get hurt orsomething happens, they're there
when you die, kind of thing.
Right, you think then theywould show themselves to you
when you were dying.
So what do you think?
But see, now everybody alwayssays they go to the light, they
don't see anybody until they getwhere they're going, and then
they see people, right?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
right.
So their life flashed beforethe eyes and then their uncle
shows up, hey.
Uncle Bob, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
They go wait.
Why are you?
Speaker 2 (33:44):
here.
Why are you here?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Who let you in here?
Where am I?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Right, exactly and go , but you.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Uncle Bob.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, exactly that's funny, and we just mess up
people, up my name's Bob Hi andwe just mess up people up.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
My name's Bob Hi, Bob my dad's name was Bob.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
No, but then that makes you know, I guess.
But then that changes what youhad asked earlier, which is Is
your guardian angel somebodythat you know?
Because if you really don't seeanybody, I always try to guess
if it was, who would it be?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And everybody that's gone so far.
I didn't get a really good hiton any of them, to be honest
with you.
Okay, but that's what I'msaying.
I may be small.
Maybe, no, definitely not.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But because now of what you're saying, we don't see
.
Supposedly, we don't see ourfamily members until we go to
the light and come out on theother side.
Your guardian angel wouldn't besomebody that you know, because
you're going to see otherpeople.
What happens if I die?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
go to heaven or wherever it is, to the light, to
the peaceful place you hope,and I see someone that I don't
know.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
That's your guide, that's your person.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It could be from my family Ancestry.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
But why would they first time?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
why would they want to see us?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
well, because.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I mean think about it curious, like, oh, we got a new
family member or they're proudof what you are, what you've
become, who you are.
Welcome, you know I mean pickwhatever good thing, dad great,
great, great great grandson yeah, I know I'm a really good guy.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
But that would be wild, that, yeah, because I
forgot.
You know I didn't think aboutthat.
Knowing relatives, naturalright relatives, that would come
and see, I think of that kindof stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, that's the kind of mind I have.
I talk to my wife and tell herthese things.
She's like you are absolutelynuts, yeah definitely, because
I'm like well, think about it.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You know well, have you.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
That's why you ever solve a show in front of your
wife when you're sitting withher?
Yeah, or you tell her watch,this is what's gonna happen, abc
boom, you do it, and then she'slike, how the fuck did you?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
yeah, yeah how did you know?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
that I'm gifted.
Guardian agent told me man.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yes, yes but no, but that's why I, that's why I did
the other reason I did theancestry instead of 23 and me
because, right, because that onethey had the um, you can do the
genealogy, right, you?
If you pay for that, then you,all you got to do is have your,
the year you were born and whereyou were born, and then the
(36:16):
same thing with your parents,the, their birth date and where
they were.
I wouldn't know that thing withyour parents, the, their birth
date and where they were.
I will not, I wouldn't even havethat, so you can track them and
then all of a sudden, youthrough, like all census records
you track people and you justkeep going backwards I won't
have that information it gotcrazy when I went to my father's
side because he had ancestorsthat came here all the way from
(36:38):
the 1600s like, like like dutchsettlers all the way back, yeah,
and, and they tracked throughchurches and then their
ancestors were tracked in europe.
And I'm tracking in europe, I'mgoing, I went all the way to,
like the 1400s that's wild.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Or 1500, well, I can say it was insane prophets go
back pretty far too.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, for sure it's kind of cool, though You're
like oh this person's my familymember?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, I've never done it.
My cousin did it.
He did it for my father's side.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I come from.
You know, you guys, when youtalk about certain things you
just take for granted thosethings Dutch names, you know.
I don't remember Dutch names.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That's funny Crazy.
But yeah so you never know, itcould be somebody like that, and
that Dutch is like not even oneor two percent of me, that's
crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That's all I was able to follow, because they had
better genealogical.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Dutch is what you had .
Dutch was a big one for you.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's like barely like two percent, but that's where I
was able to track, because theyhad the better records, I guess
at that time.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Oh, I got you.
They kept better records at thetime, right yeah, versus what
you got with the other ones,like if it was Italian or
Spanish or any of them.
Italian, I was huge.
I was up there 59% or somethinglike that, yeah it's ridiculous
and from Sicily.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
So we went way off of from.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, from England, but I'm talking
about what I found out were mine, but I couldn't find anything
out.
I'm sorry we did jump off, butthe point I was trying to make
is that I didn't find outanything you may have been able
to find.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, we jumped off because we were talking about
ancestors.
Your ancestors on the otherside could be Right.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
They could be.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You could bump into them for sure and not even know
it.
But then know afterwards You'dbe like oh man, that was such a
spade.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Hey, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I told you, but that's the other thing too, is
that's another belief is thatyour ancestors are your, and
angels too.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
mean you would hope and think so and that's the case
.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be crazy,yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I mean now, when you think about somebody who has
passed right, you know you thinkabout them more often than
others that have passed.
Could those be that your familyas a whole?
They're all like they're takingturns, like it's your shift.
It's your shift when you thinkabout them, you mean, yeah.
So, like you know, I thinkabout my grandparents a lot.
You know uncles and stuff likethat.
(39:03):
You know now my nephew and youknow good girlfriend, friend of
ours, that from a while back.
You know I see them every sooften.
I think about them, the fuckwas that.
Your puppies.
Somebody came in and did it,that motherfucker was on the
table, oh he got scared.
Did you hear how hard that was?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
bro, it was like somebody body slammed somebody
off the floor.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Sorry everyone.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
We're doing a podcast and we're loving every minute
of it.
And then somehow we had a hugenoise from the ceiling the
doggies.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Unfortunately I should have the tinnies, but you
know that those people would bethen that.
Then it could be that it's yourwhole family.
I'm gonna tell you what, though, real quick, tom, because we
got only a few minutes left.
If you don't believe in allthat stuff like that, you know,
basically atheists, right right.
What made you dig up, look up,find out what your spirit animal
(39:53):
was, because that's part of youknow I don't see so much
religious or spiritual's morespiritual.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Right, it's spiritual .
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But if you're atheist , I'm just asking now but I'm
not sure.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
No, no, no, but you're not an atheist.
You're not technically anatheist.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
No, I've kind of shifted away from that, but
definitely not in any sort ofreligious belief.
So you know I believe moremetaphysical stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Oh, okay, got you Right.
So you know like I believe morelike metaphysical stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Oh right, right, right, gotcha Kind of like we're
in the I don't want to say likea matrix type thing.
No, I get you Like that, likemaybe where we are is like a
simulation, but not in the senseof like being imprisoned, like
we're here voluntarily.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Right, you know what I mean.
And then when we you know kindof, and it goes right into
freaking Matrix.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
It's not really simulation theory, though it's
hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
It's not really like we're really here, but we're
also you think we alreadyhappened, but like we're also
not here.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
We're just an aftershock.
Or we're like just a colonyhere.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
You know what saying?
Like with the little guys inthis solar system, like, like I
think I've mentioned on the showbefore, like I believe that
like afterlife is also beforelife right.
Like to say that like like youknow what I mean.
Like, like we came fromsomewhere and then we're here
for a little bit of time andthen we go back right, some
people call it yeah, and when wecame here, we obviously were
super young, because we don'tremember anything.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
But they see there's some people that do remember
their previous life, but thennow or being in.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, yeah.
A place of, but it kind ofleads into a little bit of
simulation theory too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
That makes sense.
I get it so many differentthings.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It definitely falls under the genre, and of course
aliens are involved in that too.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Again, there's so many different things, so many
different people, ways, thoughtsfeelings, religion.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
I'm interested in it because you see a lot of it with
the numbers.
Remember 851?
Thankfully, I still see thatnumber.
Yeah, all the time, that was myphone number uh mine too, yeah
um and uh.
I'm like you know, is theresomething to that?
You know what I mean.
So I think more spiritual, moreconnection to the to it right
(42:16):
versus versus giving your selfto something.
You know what I mean just whereyou're comfortable, and to each
his own, of course.
I mean whatever works for you,but for me that's what I like,
you know.
So I think Sphero's Wings is acool thing to think about.
I don't count on them.
I think some people do.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Right, you know a little more extreme yeah, I'm
sure um maybe not, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Well, it's interesting subject, though I
thought it would be cool just totalk about it, because it went
in all the uh directions.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We hoped it would yeah, yeah, yeah, because we go
everywhere we have a go all over.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
We're geniuses, adhd and all right, very quickly,
we're geniuses.
We're geniuses in our own mind.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, but, yeah, but yeah, if you have
one, great I guess, like yousaid, we'll find it in the end.
Yeah, you're like yo I told youto duck.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
We'll find that in the end.
Yeah, it's going to be that onedude that's standing out there.
Watch that last step.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
And one.
It's a doozy.
I told you not to get in there.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I told you to duck.
I said jump.
Yeah, that's funny.
I wonder if that would be too.
We'll end it on that funny Ifyour guardian angel, if you have
a guardian angel or your spiritanimal or whatever, if, when
you pass?
they're there and they stand upand they're yelling at you
because they were like I toldyou to duck.
You know what I mean, likeseriously, like I told you to
(43:38):
duck.
You know I mean like seriouslywhen they tell you like you
shouldn't have done this.
You know, give you that onething that they're holding on to
, and because you didn't do that, you didn't get that right.
You know what I mean.
Okay, that was still funny.
Oh, okay.
So with that, my peoples, thankyou all for listening.
Hope this one, this one, was alittle bit out there.
(44:00):
It wasn't our regular kind ofstuff.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It was good conversation.
I was digging it, enjoyed ityeah.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
So thank you everybody for listening, thank
you for joining us, catch useverywhere YouTube and all that
other stuff and love, peace andhair grease.
Live long and prosper.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
And go vegan.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Holla and prosper and go vegan holla.
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