April 30, 2025 • 44 mins
Beyond the familiar 420 connections, hemp holds revolutionary potential as a sustainable powerhouse with bamboo as its environmental partner. Our deep dive reveals how these two plants could transform our approach to construction, clothing, and everyday products while saving our planet in the process.
Hemp grows rapidly with minimal resources, naturally resists pests, absorbs carbon dioxide, and yields more fiber per acre than cotton or trees. What's stopping us from embracing this miracle plant? We explore the economics, practicalities, and surprising applications – from hempcrete buildings that regulate moisture and resist fire to sustainable textiles that improve with wear.
Bamboo's credentials are equally impressive, with some species growing three feet daily and producing 35% more oxygen than trees. We examine how architects in Hong Kong have used bamboo scaffolding to build skyscrapers for centuries and how this ancient knowledge might provide solutions to modern environmental challenges.
The conversation takes fascinating turns as we discuss how these materials could address climate-vulnerable regions by creating more resilient structures, potentially replace environmentally harmful plastics, and complement other green technologies like solar power and geothermal energy. While initial costs may be higher, the long-term benefits for both pocketbooks and the planet make a compelling case for change.
Ready to rethink what's possible? Join us as we imagine a future where working with nature's abundant offerings creates truly sustainable solutions for generations to come. The revolution isn't just growing – it's growing fast.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Welcome to Cartman Crawford andthe Jersey Guy podcast.
Gentlemen, how are you, how youdoing, doing?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
great.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So we're here for another podcast.
Yes, another fantastic podcast420 is upon us and we decided to
do A two-parter, A two-parter.
Oh yeah, is it a two-parter Ina sense?
Yeah, Okay.
Because hemp is involved.
Yes, so is bamboo, dude bamboo.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I don't know why that Shit.
Bamboo for me is like relaxingCan be.
Yeah, like just looking at thebamboo forest, kind of stuff.
Yeah, it does look nice, it's anice scenic.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, for me, I like bamboo.
A lot of people hate bamboo.
Yeah, Like they not hate it forits aesthetic, but they're like
oh, it's like oh, if you havebamboo growing hard, you can't
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
It grows, like it will grow, and so will hemp yeah
well, so sidebar, and that'sthe whole idea of it because
yeah is it so abundant?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
abundant, and you can use it for almost they, just
pretty much things for differentthings, a little bit, I guess,
say the sidebar little, one ofthose things that I had learned
a long time ago.
You know totally useless facts,I guess, but when they used to
capture people, when they usedto fight in asia and would
capture people to torture them,they would lay them down on the
sprouts of the bamboo and leavethem there and the bamboo would
(01:32):
literally grow through theirbodies.
Oh, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's serious.
No lie bro.
That's crazy man.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That was the torture stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That's what we need to know, now I'm not speaking,
fuck you.
And then like, oh yeah, okay,hold that.
And then you start to feel itgo through you and it would just
end up like growing rightthrough them because the bamboo
shoots are so strong.
God, that is sick yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Isn't that?
Crazy though that is, thatwould be a cool horror movie,
though Something in a horrormovie.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It was reality?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I know no, but I'm saying you'd have to do it where
you found someone that thathappened to.
Right, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,damn you know what I'm telling
you, man?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's cool, right, just a little dumb shit that I
know.
Yeah, that's just crazy it wason mini busters and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
They say, like I said , it grows quickly.
The hemp grows quickly and itdoesn't require a lot of water
Right.
Less than what than cotton,Naturally pest resistant.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, so it needs fewer pesticides.
Well, so where does the hempcome from?
Cleans the soil.
I'm not even trying topronounce that word.
I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen,absorb heavy metals, so more
CO2 than most plants per acre.
Okay, this is hemp Yields morefiber per acre than cotton or
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trees.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, so it's amazing .
That's what I'm saying.
Just use that.
Why are we not using hempinstead for paper and stuff?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Because it's cheap and it's, you would think,
because it is a bundle full.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You would just you can grow it anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know, and it grows fast and you know what
that was?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
one of our like cash crops when our country was a
founding country was hemp.
Yes, so the rope because it wasvery hemp, is very good rope,
right.
I mean, it's still used todayfor rope, right, it is still
used today for rope.
But that's usually when you seecloth rope, that's him usually.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know it's very that basket weavy right, yeah,
that just boggles the mind likeyou can use this, but why don't
you use this?
Why do we have to use this thathas all these chemicals in it
and things that?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
you like to process and everything what they call
forever chemicals now is whatthey're saying.
They're stuck with youregardless during your body
already yeah, and that's thecrazy part, because that's the
money part, because of havingthat to grow the trees over
again, whatever they probablyfiguring that making the hemp
products well, they lose money,but they would sell so much they
they would hope that the hempwould grow fast enough for them
(03:59):
to freaking make the money theycan.
Well, it's the same thing likewith the hemp clothes.
The hemp clothes clothes ismore like a linen yeah, you know
what I'm saying.
So it's not even like the jeansthat is going to be warmer.
So the hemp clothing would work, you know, in warmer climates.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know.
I think you can make anythingout of this stuff now pretty
much.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The only problem with the hemp clothing is it's not
as soft as cotton.
I think that might be theproblem.
I don't think you can use itfor like everything right, Isn't
it like a grainier?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
What's that hemp?
Yeah, so like making hempclothes, if that would be
beneficial.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Here we go.
So sustainable jobs.
Hemp and bamboo industriescreate jobs in framing,
processing, construction,textiles, paper, biodegradable
plastics, versatile both can beused for clothing, food, paper,
biofuel, construction materialslike hempcrete and even plastics
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.
Low maintenance farming.
Low import input costs forwater, pesticides, fertilizers,
compared to crops like cotton,trees used for lumber and paper
there you go.
You don't have to cut down treesIf you don't have to cut down
trees just fucking grow new shit, right, exactly, I hate it.
I got to be honest with you.
When I see a tree cut down andthey're doing construction on
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the side of the road, likethey're doing in Middletown,
right, I hate it.
It's like they just tore themdown just to put something there
, for whatever reason, right,maybe it's a good reason, but
still it's like trees, man.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
You know, yeah, and I feel youbecause, like even across the
street from one of our buildingsthat they just started, they're
getting ready to start buildingsoon, really, yeah, so yeah, no
, I feel you, but like you weresaying, tom hemp, I'm sorry.
Yeah, hemp tends to be moreexpensive and less readily
available than like cotton.
Yeah, so then it doesn't, it'snot as so it would cost more.
(05:52):
So the hemp is more expensivethan the cotton.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, but it's so much better for the
environment.
Yeah, again so either way itworks out it's.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's where the thing comes in.
So it's cheaper, as far as youknow, to get it, to make it and
what not, but you know,financially it does all this
stuff you know, it's just youknow bamboo fabrics are
breathable right antimicrobialright UV resistant and
biodegradable food hemp seedsare highly nutritious, rich in
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protein, omega-3s and fiber.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I've gotten a lot of.
I had a lot of cereals thathave hemp seed, Like I used to
have this hemp seed granolacereal Good one.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But both these things grow in abundance.
That's the whole point.
You're getting it, it's gonna.
If you manufactured it and yougrew it, you would have it all
the time.
You know what I'm saying.
It's just a matter of I guesspeople are greedy.
They'd rather put shit inchemicals and food and put
papers to make their moneyrather than doing the right
thing.
But I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I understand what you're saying, right, because I
mean as far as the differencebetween cotton and hemp, so that
then hemp fabric can beslightly stiffer and more
textured than cotton, thoughit's it softens with use, right?
So that then you know when youfirst buy it, people that have,
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you know, like sensory issues orthey just don't like the way
that it feels on their skin, youknow they may not.
You know they're going to washit 10 times before they use it.
You know before they actuallywear it on a regular basis and
stuff like that.
So you know before theyactually wear it on a regular
basis and stuff like that.
So you know it's.
I guess it just depends on theperson you know.
But at the same time I thinkfor me and I'm going to go along
with what you're saying, lukeit is worthwhile because it's
(07:36):
cheaper and whatnot, becauseit'd be the same thing if you're
wearing silk.
You know polyester, and if youcan grow it at will, and if you
can grow it at will and you knowno big deal, you know like,
almost like, well, no, becauseyou don't have to.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Environmentally safe.
Yeah, you know, it's all of theabove.
Yeah, you're getting morebenefit out of it for your buck
that way I think yeah, it makesperfect sense.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, but they're not there yet Now you said that it
was stronger than it was.
It was good enough to use forconstruction.
Yeah, so that then, even withthat.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hempcrete, I guess it was called hempcrete Right,
really.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
Can you imagine, yep, now whenyou turn around and you use it
in a building?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, hempcrete Versus how both can be used in
clothing, food paper, biofuel,construction materials like
hempcrete and even plastics.
Yeah, see, so then it will bereally groovy.
So they're mixing it with otherstuff too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You would still need the wood for the framing of a
building, or metal you know,steel or whatever for the frame.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't know what you're getting at.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I'm saying no, you said like the hempcrete, so it's
more like the concrete to buildthe, you know, put the outside
of the of the building, or likeeven down south, so like down
south, or the lay brick, orwhatever you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I guess it depends on what you're using, right?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And that's what I'm saying.
But you would use, they'llstill have to use wood for the
framing because the hemp is forthe concrete part, like hempc
cementing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Maybe use the block or whatever.
Yeah, the block.
I'm sorry, right, and like thebrick, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, so you know, but it would still be a good mix
and you know, and if it's morenot if it's reading here that it
is it's stronger, that then itwould probably work better in
down in.
You know, hurricane alley ortornado alley in the United
States, and you tornado alley,like in the united states, and
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you know for houses and huts andstuff like that to be worth, it
would stay up, it wouldn't beknocked down or whatever.
You know in those places thatthey have the, the wild um
weather, right.
So, like you know, so, like Isaid, tornado alley in the
midwest, right.
So then if you build the housesout of the hempcrete, right,
it'll probably be stronger right, you know well, they're
building stuff, that's, that'sso.
(09:46):
And so you see the, the 3dprinters they have now that do
with the concrete, right, yeahyeah right it's crazy so then if
you use hempcrete right insteadof just the regular, say,
plastics or whatever, the 3dyeah, if it's there.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And it's abundant and you?
Can get it, it will I mean and,honestly, when you think about
it, that's what it was there for.
When you think about it, yeahright, it's not like you're
hurting anything yeah, right,and, like you said, because you
can, there's more of it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
You can build it up more right.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Hell yeah, safe environment, yeah you know it
helps your future generations.
You go in that direction.
It's, it's a.
It's a totally different storyyeah and you would think so
anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, I'm not going to lie, bro, until you brought
it to us, you know.
Do you say you wanted to do theepisode on this?
Well, actually, the both of youguys killed it with the ideas
for for the, the weed and thehemp.
I'm not even going to make dip,like I'll.
I'll, like I'm think about howthese things can help us.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You know, I said the last couple of episodes well,
not the last couple, but theepisodes that we've done as far
as what, the medicinal benefitsfor marijuana, you know now, the
hemp coming off of the plant,you and what you did on the last
episode, I'm like what?
And I said, and me reading onit, I'm like no way, like
there's just, I never thoughtthat there would be this many
things that hemp would be usedfor.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Or could be used for, that it'sworthwhile.
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You know, like I said, I'mreading here a natural moisture
regulation.
Hempcrete is breathable,allowing moisture to move
through the walls, preventingmold and dampness.
So, again, if we're buildingout of that instead of concrete
in your basements, you wouldn'thave those kind of leaks in your
basement, maybe, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know what I'm saying?
It's like holy shit.
So the person who's doing itknows what he's doing.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You know, pest and fire resistant Hempcrete is
naturally resistant to pests androt and it has a high fire
rating, so it's like it'sanother one too.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So that's the safety thing right there.
Yeah, the burn rate, I think,on some of this stuff that
they're coming out with now islike it doesn't burn.
It takes so much for it to getto that point.
But that stuff's expensive.
But that's the future andthat's the direction you want to
go in, right when you thinkabout it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But it would only be expensive because nobody knows
the process.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Once it starts to pick it up, it'll take off Right
.
Just think about it, bro.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Back in how many years ago was it that the Plasma
TV came out?
It was like oh my God, it's$10,000 for this flat screen.
It's like holy Jesus, what thehell is going on.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And now you go to Money World.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And you're paying, you know, for 55 inch you're
paying 300 bucks on a five inch.
And you're like what?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's true, you're like right now I feel like thing
.
It was with the computers whenthey first started coming out,
exactly like an 80 inch for,like you know, gram you only
know, you only knew somebody whohad a computer and then next
year, you know, everybody wasgetting one.
Yeah, exactly, you know you'regoing to these shows and you
were getting them built rightdoing all this stuff you know
that crazy shit.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Look, indoor air quality.
Hemp's natural properties helppurify the air, removing dust
and bacteria.
Hello, can't be that.
Allergies, that it can helpdeal with allergies.
You're looking at that.
It can help deal with theasthma.
You know what I'm saying, bro,pet dander, you know.
So, like I said, I'm allergicto pets.
So then I mean your puppies arehypothergenic and such for me
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or whatever.
But then you go to somebody'shouse and it might even help
with you know, all of thatthat's going on in the house.
I that that's going on in thehouse.
I mean, dude, that's freakingcrazy to me.
But then now here's where theyou know the kick in the nuts is
potential for higher initialcosts.
While the long-term costs ofhemp building materials can be
lower due to energy efficiencyand durability, the initial
price point might be higher thantraditional materials.
(13:18):
Yeah, but you know what?
But in the long run.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
look what you'll get.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Exactly Right, but in the long run.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Look what you'll get Right and you're going to make
out bigger than you did when youmake that that purchase for the
concrete.
Yeah, you'll, you'll pay that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, you know what I mean, right?
So, look, you got the uses ofhemp and construction.
So you got the hempcrete usedfor the walls and insulation.
Hemp insulation available forbat and bats and rolls.
You know panels and stuff,hemp-free blocks, easy to use
and assemble in the speed ofconstruction process.
Like we were saying before, theroofing can be used for roofing
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due to its moisture resistanceand pest resistance.
Hello, right, that, right,there speaks volumes.
Yeah, fibers can be hemp,fibers can be woven into durable
carpets and furnishings fortextiles.
Nice, so you know I mean shit,bro.
This is that's insane.
Just this one plant that wouldbe able to again, like you said,
(14:13):
just be so much better for theenvironment, because if it,
grows randomly, I mean, if youcan get it to and it just grows
in abundance, yeah and that's,and it grows fast, Right?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So I don't I understand what you're saying as
far as the price is concerned.
I think You're making out inthe long run versus the right
away in.
You step into it, You're goingto.
In the long run, you're goingto make out for it for sure.
Because you're going to getmore out of it than you did what
you paid into it.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, but that was the same thing that they say or
that is being said about.
Like solar power, you know, youget the panels, whether it's on
your roof or your backyard orwherever you're putting it.
The initial cost is like, ohthe cow, it's bananas, but it'll
pay off on the other endbecause you're not paying that
crazy electric bill.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right, right.
So same idea with the hemp, Iguess again it's the investment.
(15:03):
Right, exactly, it's theinvestment.
That's the word.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm glad you said that, because it was like yeah,
and my house is perfect becausethe sun comes right over the top
of the back of my house.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, To the front, like right over, you've got a
good setup for it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I would only need it on the backside of the house,
right.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Because it's their only thing?
Or did they stop doing that?
Don't they like pay for theroof or something to be done, or
something?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
My roof was already done.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I already have new shingles.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I have new shingles on my roof already.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, no, Don't you have to reinforce it to hold the
weight of the solar panels.
They have to go in and inspectthe roof to see.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Okay, this is what's going on in your roof?
We're going to need to do ABCand D, then they're going to
have to install, probably likecross beams or whatever knowing
where it's going to fall out.
So they knew that when theyscrewed into the roof they were
catching.
Yeah, Because they got to tieinto whatever's inside the roof.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Sometimes they'll replace your roof for you,
though, really yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But doesn't have to, don't you have to?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
well, I don't know I don't want to do that Am.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I going to bring a new fucking roof.
Yeah, you don't want to do that, right?
Well, you don't need that yetthe installation.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hell, that happened to me.
Oh.
And then the insurance.
People were running aroundstorm chasers and they would you
know.
Oh, we're going to do your roofand this that and the other
thing, and then we wound up.
It was yeah, it was a whole bigschmeal.
That's crazy, but think aboutit, though.
Same thing with like textiles,right?
Yeah, they say the most thingthat shouldn't be in a landfill
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not that it should be in alandfill, but most of all, is
clothing, right, you know, likeblankets, anything like that
shouldn't be in it because ittakes forever for it to break
down.
It's not good, right?
Rather, recycle it.
But they can take that type offabric and break it down and
then reuse it again.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That can be recycled for different stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You can.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Especially.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean the number one thing is like filling, like on
like pillows and throw pillows.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Couch cushion right?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
sure, I didn't even think of that absolutely yep,
dude, that's, that's just insane, I think, for me only because
of the way I think and theconversation that we've had yeah
, exactly no and the v not tosay but the vegan part of it,
too, is now you're not usinganimals.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You're using whatever you have in abundance, because
you have so much of it now Likethe same with the plastics.
You can use that shit too to dothat and make hard benches and
do all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, the recycled plastics.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Right, right, they can melt all that shit down.
I don't believe it, man.
Yeah, bro, if we but I'm sayingthat that's why not go that
direction.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's the way to go.
I mean, we're going to burn itdown.
Well, there's not even the burnit down part, Just like you
said earlier.
Just all that shit that's inthe landfills.
You know what I mean?
What's the name of the garbagethat's floating in the ocean?
You?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
mean all the plastic.
Yeah, the Pacific Garbage Patch, yeah, that shit.
It's heartbreaking.
Man Think about this.
When you see it, it's just likeheartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, it is heartbreaking, but it's so
freaking huge, Aren't somepeople cleaning that up and
they're using it for recyclingRight to recycle.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But we should be able to go in there, scoop the whole
shit up there are people thatdo that stuff, for sure.
Right, not little at a time.
They I mean for me go in thereand scoop that whole shit over,
get it too close to the land andthen just take it out every day
, you know and just redo theplastic.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know that they're definitely doing.
Some people are definitelyworking to get that stuff out of
there for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, because I mean what?
Now they're using holy cowfinding fish and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, finding fish in there and all that stuff.
They have plastics in themRight.
No, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yep Wild, the microplastics and all that shit
that's everywhere and whatnot.
So I mean you know the fish areeating at it because it's
starting to break down little bylittle, or other fish just
nipping at it so it breaks thelittle plastic off and then like
finding out that the colorplastic bottles aren't good for
us to even be drinking out of.
So that's why even now, some ofthe soda companies have changed
(18:57):
their bottles from the colorsto the clear.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, there weren't many, though.
Like Sprite is clear, there itis Sprite's on the clear bottle.
That's why Because come to findout that the dye is in there
Mountain Dew, mellow, yellow,right they all have stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You're right.
Yeah, I know All of them.
It's crazy, yeah, but isn'tcertain sodas green as well?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Some ginger ales certain ginger ales, right Well,
but the ginger ale bottles it'slike a brown color.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Or green.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
No, no, no, I'm talking about the ginger ale
itself, the actual liquid, notthe bottle.
So now they're making them witha bottle.
That's just now clear, becausethose colors, the color dyes
were harmful.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
The same thing that we were talking about before and
no one thought about thatbecause they associated it with
glass because, the color glasshas nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It doesn't throw Exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And that's what it was, because the glass breaks,
so they didn't want peoplegetting hit in the head with the
glass bottle you know, or aglass bottle breaking somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's why they started using those colors
though, because Sprite used toprobably come in a green glass
bottle.
It did.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
It came in a green glass bottle, so did 7-Up, and
7-Up came in that other.
Yep, all that stuff came incolored glass.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So they just continued it.
They're like, oh, we want greenRight exactly and keep it in
there.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And it was cheaper to do the plastic than it was to
keep making the glasses RightGlasses are much better.
Right, so they started torecycle the bottles.
So they would desanitize thebottles and then refill them and
put new caps on them and putthem back into circulation.
Did you know that?
I didn't know that, yeah, did.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Did they really do that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What did they clean themproperly?
I?
Mean, I don't have a problemwith that If they recycle them
the proper way and then they canreuse them.
Sure, do that.
I don't have a problem withthat.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's better than what they do now, because, like
now, it's either like if youlive in, like in New Jersey,
like they collect the recyclingRight.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It just gets broken up, and then I know they have
the things where it shreds theglass, and yeah, but so what
they're doing is that they youknow you get the money back for
the.
Yeah, you do that.
Yeah, the five cent refunds yeahso you, they turn around and
they get all the plastics, theyshred it or put it in the
compactor, right in the baler,they wrap it all up and then
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they send it out to get re, toget recycled for whatever it is
that they're going to use it forand whatnot, and then, you know
, put into other things.
Now, that's the other thing too.
For certain things, theplastics, certain color plastics
, can't be recycled.
Certain kinds of plasticbottles cannot be recycled.
So then they need to stopmaking those bottles, and that's
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what the idea is.
So now, because our show isabout hemp, that now if we have
the hemp material and we canmake, you know, different cups,
different bottles, reusablethings, like we have a water
fountain at work where you takeyour water bottle and you put it
up, you know, in the fountainand it fills up your can, your
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reusable water bottle Nice, asopposed to using or buying.
You know a case of water, youknow what I'm saying.
Like, I drink filtered water athome.
I have the filter pitcher withthe filter, yes, sort of, and
you know that's where I pour mywater out of, you know.
So then, if they do things likethat, if hemp can do shit like
that, and bamboo.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And there you go, there you go.
Don't forget about bamboo.
Bamboo is all you could.
That should grow.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, One day you could use bamboo as a cup, man.
That would be cool, you know,because then think of how cool
that would look.
A bamboo cup, a bamboo cup.
I'm sure you can get it.
Yeah, that would be freakingawesome, man, you know.
But again, what else can we use?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's just growing plant on earth.
Some species grow three feetper day, regrows after
harvesting without needingreplanting, unlike trees,
requires no pesticides and verylittle water, produces 35% more
oxygen than trees and absorbsmore CO2.
I mean I mentioned this earlierHelps prevent soil erosion due
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to its dense roots, its denseroot system.
So there you go.
Now you're helping the planet,yeah, same time, and you can use
it for utensils and you're nothurting it.
It'll grow.
Yeah, cut it down.
It's like what's that plantthat comes back every year?
Hostas.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Hostas come back every year.
Oh, hostas Right, they'll go.
Fall comes, they shrivel down,you cut them down, you bring
them to the ground right.
Next year they come right backup.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
No problem.
So look, bamboo is tough anddurable.
There are a ton of places youcan buy bamboo cups online, so
yeah, you can even use a bamboofor a cup.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Sure Hello.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Hello, that bamboo for a cup, sure, hello, hello,
that's not cool.
No, that is.
I mean, I guess listen.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I guess it depends on your preference, but you know,
I think if at some point in thefuture they go in the right
direction, as far as notworrying about the money so much
but looking to take care of thepeople that they're serving and
the cool part about bamboo isthe wood.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You know it makes you make wood.
It makes it's.
You know the bigger ones areused for like, not lumber for
construction but wood for likethey make scaffolds out of them.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Did you ever see?
I don't know what country it'sin, but they use scaffold.
They make scaffolds out ofbamboo and build fucking
buildings.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I've seen things I didn't know about that I'm going
to look that up.
I've seen things like you knowcutting boards and like hangers.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Right, yeah, and so you do all those things?
Yeah, I was saying because youwere looking it up, so I had
already looked it up, so I knewyou wanted to read off of it.
That's what I'm saying.
No, I can't, I'm sorry, I knowhow my glasses are.
So, yeah, you can build withbamboo.
It is versatile and sustainablematerial.
A versatile and sustainablematerial right that can be used
for a whole range of structures,from simple shelters to complex
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buildings.
Bamboo is strong, grows rapidlyand is resistant to pests
moisture we know that same asthe hemp, making a viable
alternative to traditionalbuilding materials like wood.
So then you can use the woodactually instead of I'm sorry,
you can use the bamboo insteadof the wood.
Right, there it is, and thatit'll be as strong.
So now, if you're using, youdon't have to cut down the trees
you don't have to cut down thetrees I said, like you said, the
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bamboo grows bigger and faster,whatever.
So then now you use the hempcrete for like the walls and you
use the bamboo for the framing.
Now you got yourself a super, asuper sustainable house, and
you know what I mean.
If that's not like you said andlike we were talking about
before on in the long runeco-friendly super eco-friendly,
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but it's it's it's beneficialto the environment and to your
pockets in the long run.
Right, and then you can.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think it's to the environment and to your pockets
in the long run.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right, and then you can use geothermal Just based on
what we're Right, there you go.
You know geothermal.
That's a great thing too.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, and so all that stuff is great, you know, and
then hopefully we'll get out ofour own fucking way.
Right, me may not be around tosee it.
Yeah, it might be just at thebeginning of it before we depart
wonderful planet, I'm going tobe a cyborg, you know.
It'll be interesting if, like Ihope, it goes to that point
where it's more about takingcare of one another yeah, not
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school, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, bro.
You know what I'm?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
saying listen like nature, baby, take care of the
planet.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Take it good to her, she'll be good to you yeah, yep,
so like here it's uh, costeffectiveness in some cases,
bamboo can be more affordablethan traditional building
materials.
So then the more money that youwould spend on the hemp creep
right, you would then save.
You know, or no longer, now, no, no, you would save from
building the wood.
So that then would you know.
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So you would use the bamboo asthe as your framing, like I said
, and that would be cheaper thanusing the wood.
So then it would even out sothe house would still be five
hundred thousand dollars insteadof you know.
It's super strong.
Yeah, it is Dude.
I'm telling you, man, thatwould be so cool, that would be
so cool.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, see, I got to win the lotto so I could build
the house over there, you and mein a whole damn freaking
country, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Pretty much man.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Pretty much.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's not one person in this freaking country doesn't
want to hit the freakinglottery.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, no lie.
Well, I'm just saying it's justthat you know to have that
money, that'd be great to beable to go and you know, build a
house like that, cause you gotto get the people that know how
to build it to where you are,but you can take the time now to
it.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You don't have to worry about a rush.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah right, yeah right, yeah, that'd be so cool,
and then you can even thinkabout because you can bend
bamboo you know what I'm sayingand hemp too, but I mean as far
as the building.
So you can bend okay what doyou think?
I say, okay, we won't do that,but you can bend the bamboo, so
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this way you can make thearchways in your house without
having you know.
Like I said, the wood is alittle bit harder.
I'm sure it's probablydifficult to work with in some
aspects.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure it would have to bemolded and do all that to it
like they do factory-wise.
Yeah, break it down, turn itinto what they need it into.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Oh yeah, that's got to be, like I said, just as a
whole, you know it being asstrong or stronger both hemp and
bamboo than you know than thanconcrete and and wood.
To me it sounds like a betteranswer.
You know to build your stuffwith, like I said, especially
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because you know.
Out in the Midwest, you look atthe places where there's
tornadoes and the hurricanes arekilling.
You know everything and it'spath down south, with tornadoes
too.
But you know, coming off thesouthern part of the country and
I mean use it, all the placesthat are flood zones.
You know what.
You have a hemp house and it'llprobably be the border.
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Like I said, using it as abasement material.
The border probably won't gothrough, you know, probably
won't seep through the walls andeat at the base.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
There's a mother nature at some point is gonna
probably win but if you can makeit last longer or prevent it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That'd be great.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yep, hong Kong.
Ambu scaffolding has been usedfor more for centuries and still
widely used today, constructionfrom small buildings to high
rises and favored for beinglightweight, strong, flexible,
cost-effective.
Skilled craftsmen known asscaffolders or tap hang
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especially trained to assemblethese intricate structures,
often without use of the safetyharness, which is pretty amazing
and a little nerve wracking towatch.
Hell, yeah, I would do it.
You wouldn't even catch me onthat.
Never Can you imagine askyscraper and you just get it
rough, forget it.
That's not happening bro, yeah,bro, yeah, no, I'm with you I
(29:45):
get up to like halfway to thethird, I'll be like, you know,
I'm good, I'm good right herehell yeah, what well you need me
to watch this window?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
yeah, I'll do this, I'm not going any higher man,
that is freaking insane.
Yeah, it would be, man, I'mtelling you just, I think that
we as Thailand too, and Vietnam,oh okay.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
China, india, yeah, so it's definitely used.
They use it, they're smart.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
They're fucking smart .
That's where.
That's where bamboo likeoriginated from right, like
they're from Asia, right oh yeah, they come from from climates.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
they've been using it for years, right, that's what?
From Asia, right?
Oh yeah, they come fromclimates that are-.
They've been using it for years, right?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's what I don't I'm telling you people I don't
get it.
It's crazy how societies arejust setting their ways.
It's like oh, we use lumber, wehave lumber.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, it's fucking countries now.
Well, because nobody knows.
Well, you know, like everywherethat you go, depending on how
quote unquote old, that thatarea is the countries they use
different things to build.
So you know, you go out into,like England, ireland and stuff
like that, everything was stone.
So they got stone houses, maybea little bit of wood framing,
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you know, on the inside forcertain things, but their rooms,
their walls are all separatedby stone.
The older buildings, thecastles and stuff.
You know.
You go down into Asia a littlebit further south, on that side
it's the bamboo and the thingslike that.
That that's what's.
You know, holding up theshingles and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's the wild thing when you, when you go to like
old countries, like seeing thesecathedrals have been hundreds
of years.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah Out of stone, wow Out of stone, wow out of
stone.
So then now, here it is stoneis like aren't they rebuilding?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
that's like the ultimate.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
They did finish it yeah, that's really the ultimate
sustainable thing yeah well butagain stone it's one of those
things that now wouldn't use youknow right, but I think, long
term, I don't think it's reallythe the, the offset of of the
mining.
I don't think is that bad forthe longevity of like forever.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Right, what do you mean?
The the, the stone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You say oh, people go , the mining's a lot of you know
, I'm sure that's expensive initself, just mining it.
Yeah, I'm sure that's expensivein itself, just mining it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
The mining is a big carbonfootprint because of all the
machinery, but when you thinkabout it, if it's going to last
lifetimes, then is that?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
really sustainable, because now you have to insulate
that rock.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You see what I'm saying.
So then it's not as Well.
That's where the geothermalcomes in.
The geothermal comes in Right.
That's where the geothermalcomes in.
The geothermal comes in Right.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But it's not insulated.
It's pretty cool, Like whatthey use.
They dig underground.
They use the coolness from theearth 55 degrees, you know like
that wine cellar temperature,right, and that's where they
heat or cool that air.
So it's a guaranteed.
Like 55 degrees, it could be 20degrees outside, right, you're
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taking 55 degree air.
Or Like 55 degrees, it could be20 degrees outside, right,
you're taking 55 degree air.
Or if it's 90 degrees outside,you're cooling 55 degrees to 70
degrees.
Yeah, it's not that bad?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Exactly no, it works and it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
That's really awesome .
I would do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You could do that here.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I don't think I can.
I already checked.
No, yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It.
It's not in this area.
I think depending on the groundyeah, so I just thought you
could do it over here.
I thought it was more too rockyin this area oh yeah, I didn't
think about that too we're up inthe mountains, but then, like
again, your house would have tobe insulated.
So you can't do that in a rockhouse without having some kind
of insulation on the inside ofthe rock.
It's good if you're in a warmclimate, though.
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Right, if you're in a warmclimate, then it works and
that's all groovy, it's cool.
Right, then you're good to go.
But then it depends on whereyou are.
So you can't do that in inFlorida, in Southern Florida,
central.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You can't you can't have basements.
That's why.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I know, in in South America.
I know, yeah, not a big fanEverywhere, but because it's hot
down there.
Yeah, I get that you slip onthat shit and bust your ass.
No, I'd rather give me theformica floor.
I mean not the formica, I meanthe wood floor.
(33:53):
You know what I'm saying?
Like give me something thatyou're busting your ass.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Well, don't forget the stuff.
Hemp can be just like that tileon the floor.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
There you go, and that's that's like you started
with that.
If it's going to be somethingthat's going to be worthwhile,
safe, hello, we should use itRight, you know we should.
We've we're already in a spot,and I think in our society,
where we can seriously look andthink about doing things better.
(34:28):
You know what I'm saying.
And more economical because ithow many houses, how much
concrete, you know, are wemaking to build?
You know however many houses.
You know that we're taking allthis wood, all these trees, the
rainforest that are just youknow.
It's like, come on, bro, likeit's gotta be something else or
something a little bit different.
(34:49):
And only once in a while do youget to watch, like you know,
hgtv when they're building a newhouse.
Or you know this old housewhere they always, you know they
usually come up with somepretty cool stuff and you know
you only get a couple of housesthat people are willing to spend
, you know, a little bit extramoney to.
You know, to have aenvironmentally friendly house.
(35:10):
You know what I'm saying.
And it's like, come on, bro,you know.
Like you know, even with theelectric vehicles, you know,
even I'm talking about, likebuilding the electric vehicles,
being able to use some of thosesustainable materials.
Like you know, you could usehemp, you know, or bamboo to
make the fiber.
It's almost like if it's acarbon fiber.
So now you're making it, soyou're using that.
(35:32):
Right, that makes the carlighter, so now it's more fuel
efficient, whether it's batteryfuel or fossil fuels.
You know what I'm saying Idon't know, or both Hybrid,
hybrid.
Yeah Right, you know, for methat's that's where it's at,
that's what we should startlooking at you know, do hybrid
and work your way back.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, just go from there.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, Cause, I mean, I know it.
Nobody can actually sit and sayoh, sit and say oh, you know,
gas is just the only way to go.
It's not as bad as you think.
Diesel is not as bad as youthink.
You can see it when it snows Iknow people in the South can see
it.
When it snows it's black.
The snow on the side of theroad is black, Not when it first
happens.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
No, no, no Right.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Give it half a day, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know what I'm saying Exactly I why?
Because, excuse me, I got alittle dry throat.
Everything else doesn't melt,so like all the dirt from the-.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Resilience and everything yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Exactly.
It clings on and then the watermelts, and then what's left is
all gone.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, exactly, so you're seeing all the good and
everything is there.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Especially when you're in the parking lot.
You see the big mountains ofdirt it looks all nice and then,
after like a few days, when itstarts melting, it starts
getting better, and then youwatch when it's done.
It's all rocks and like all thepavement that like broken off
on the ground.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Exactly so now you got all that shit that's there
in the in the snow.
That's how you know that it's.
We shouldn't be breeding allthat stuff, you know?
Think of how many people haveasthma, how many people just
have some kind of breeding issue.
You know what I mean?
The allergies, hello, it's.
These are all things.
We need to start looking as asociety, I feel as a whole all
(37:22):
over the world.
We need to start looking as asociety, I feel, as a whole all
over the world.
We need to start looking athemp, as you brought up Lou with
the bamboo, you know, andanything else, yeah, anything
else that would help, you know,and what it's going to be to
make these things.
Because, I mean, people'sbiggest argument is about oh
well, it's the same carbonfootprint, because how do you
(37:43):
make this stuff?
To me it's not technically thesame thing, because if it's only
, let's say, a size 10 footprint, that's making the product, say
the solar panels or thewindmills or whatever, it's not
you as another size 10 that'susing this stuff.
You, you're a size one.
(38:04):
If that it does that make sense, I guess.
Yeah, you know, you're notusing.
It's not the same kind ofcarbon footprint for you to be
living off of.
Well, I think, clean energy.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It it's, it's in the process, you know, based on what
we're reading and what we'rehearing, you know and seeing it
on the move.
It's just a matter of time whenit has its point, where it
takes off.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
I'm going to write to HGTV andget one of those TV shows when
they're building a house,because I'm sure it's because
those materials are probablyhard to get because they're not
readily some things I'm notsaying all Right, and that's
what we're for.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So now you have to order it, or whatever.
Yeah, but again, if you'reordering it, but like you said
before, in the long run you'regoing to make out.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
It'll make out on the other end, you know, and it'll
be cost effective.
You would hope so anyway.
Yeah, because if it costs me500 grand to build and on the
other end of you know, say in 10years that now you know the
house is paid for, I'm sorry mymortgage has gone down because
all my bills monthly bills.
I should say I'm sorry mymonthly bills have gone down
(39:09):
because you know I'm not usingas much oil, you know, to heat
up the house.
I'm not using as much whateverto keep the house functioning.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It'll be nice when society will be able to sustain
their own energy for their ownhome without having to pay
somebody to get the energy topower your home Right.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Wouldn't that be great?
We don't need a power grid.
Everybody has their own powersystem.
That would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So then wouldn't that be the solar energy or clean
energy as a whole?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
No, it could be anything.
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I'm asking, I'm I'm asking like would that be
considered as not, you know, younot having to pay the because?
Isn't that how it is now, ifyou have a, if you have solar,
if you have clean energy, when?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I mean you're totally off where you're like in the
sense when you do that?
I don't know bro I don't knoweither, but all I know is that
you're paying somebody right now.
You're paying somebody.
You're paying whether it's gasor electric or both.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, I'm saying, if you've got the, I know, I
remember reading If you hadsomething that made their own
energy for your house.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
So then Then just powers your house without paying
anybody, because it's yourenergy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I know like you do, sell, yeah Power back to the
company Do you the power company, but it's not more than their.
But it's not more than their.
You know what I mean.
I don't think it's like like anegative, like I think you still
end up using some power, butlike Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
That's what I'm saying.
You save money, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You don't use as much , yeah, so it's Because you use
more of the solar energy Right.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Because you're banking hours or whatever, for
because you're giving back intothe, to the grid, or whatever,
okay, and every time we try to,you know we got interested in it
.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
We really didn't make money.
We kind of broke even Okay.
And then we were really justsay well, we're doing it more
for the, the green thing, youknow what I mean?
That's what we.
We were like, we just never didit.
And then COVID hit andeverything went into a totally
different direction.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah, Right, right, right, right, yeah.
Well, I mean, I've seen acouple of houses going further
up north and they have windmillson their property houses, you
know.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It's not the big crazy, you know airplane
propeller looking thing, it wasmore like it was.
It was more like a, likevertical.
It was long like a tube and itwould spin, catch the wind.
It was wild, it was crazy.
And I was like, oh snap, andthat was where they, that was
their windmill, you know notsomething crazy on their
property, that just bananas.
(41:36):
It was.
You know, nice, looking almostlike ornamental.
Yeah, so you know, listen, Ibelieve that there's a way to
fix, solve the way, theaesthetics.
I think that there's a way.
I mean, I've seen it even too,as far as solar panels are
concerned, for your roof.
They made them.
They look like shingles.
They're not just that one bigcrazy panel, it looked like
shingles on the roof.
(41:57):
And that was how you were likethat's, yeah, that's what I'm
saying, so I've seen that.
So you know's, really, you likethe tin roof.
So now, if you can get it,where that tin roof or the
copper roof?
I'm sorry, like strips it comesin strips and that then that's
your solar panel, because it'ssoaking up the sun rays.
You know what I mean?
Hello, to get too off.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Now you can.
You can tap into solar farmstoo.
You know right, you have solarfarms now.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It's cooler, though, and that's where I mean, if you
really want to.
I know where we're talkingabout hemp in this, but the is.
I know, I saw it a while agothose electronic roads, the
polygon roads, right, the onesthat interlock.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, those things are cool.
They were LED powered solar.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
So they powered the road, they had LEDs in them,
they had solar power in them andthey were heated.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
They had heaters in them.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I don't know if it could all be powered off itself,
but maybe put back into thegrid it's the future.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
It is the future, my friend.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
But the cool thing is , if you have LED roads like
that, you can change the lanes.
If there's construction, youclose the lanes, make them red.
If there's an emergency, theywould open lanes up for
emergency service based on theroad.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I only saw that in somebody's driveway you could
have emergency services like twomiles up the highway and
they're already and the lanesare already open.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
The lanes up?
Yeah, it would be like redboxes, like emergency service
everybody would move over.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
That'd be great.
You could that that.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
That's the coolest that is the cool shit.
Listen well with that.
We love talking about future, Iknow, yeah yeah, that's like
our, like weekend that's get.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
That's our nerdy shit .
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, like I said, the future should be hemp,
should be bamboo, as far asanything that's sustainable,
anything you use.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yes, like that's why I think we should go, not going
to hurt the environment Right.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's the bomb right there, bro.
So with that, so with that love, peace and hair grease, live
long and prosper.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
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Gentlemen, how are you, how youdoing, doing?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
great.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So we're here for another podcast.
Yes, another fantastic podcast420 is upon us and we decided to
do A two-parter, A two-parter.
Oh yeah, is it a two-parter Ina sense?
Yeah, Okay.
Because hemp is involved.
Yes, so is bamboo, dude bamboo.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I don't know why that Shit.
Bamboo for me is like relaxingCan be.
Yeah, like just looking at thebamboo forest, kind of stuff.
Yeah, it does look nice, it's anice scenic.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, for me, I like bamboo.
A lot of people hate bamboo.
Yeah, Like they not hate it forits aesthetic, but they're like
oh, it's like oh, if you havebamboo growing hard, you can't
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
It grows, like it will grow, and so will hemp yeah
well, so sidebar, and that'sthe whole idea of it because
yeah is it so abundant?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
abundant, and you can use it for almost they, just
pretty much things for differentthings, a little bit, I guess,
say the sidebar little, one ofthose things that I had learned
a long time ago.
You know totally useless facts,I guess, but when they used to
capture people, when they usedto fight in asia and would
capture people to torture them,they would lay them down on the
sprouts of the bamboo and leavethem there and the bamboo would
(01:32):
literally grow through theirbodies.
Oh, come on.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's serious.
No lie bro.
That's crazy man.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That was the torture stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That's what we need to know, now I'm not speaking,
fuck you.
And then like, oh yeah, okay,hold that.
And then you start to feel itgo through you and it would just
end up like growing rightthrough them because the bamboo
shoots are so strong.
God, that is sick yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Isn't that?
Crazy though that is, thatwould be a cool horror movie,
though Something in a horrormovie.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
It was reality?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I know no, but I'm saying you'd have to do it where
you found someone that thathappened to.
Right, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,damn you know what I'm telling
you, man?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's cool, right, just a little dumb shit that I
know.
Yeah, that's just crazy it wason mini busters and stuff like
that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
They say, like I said , it grows quickly.
The hemp grows quickly and itdoesn't require a lot of water
Right.
Less than what than cotton,Naturally pest resistant.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, so it needs fewer pesticides.
Well, so where does the hempcome from?
Cleans the soil.
I'm not even trying topronounce that word.
I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen,absorb heavy metals, so more
CO2 than most plants per acre.
Okay, this is hemp Yields morefiber per acre than cotton or
(02:46):
trees.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, so it's amazing .
That's what I'm saying.
Just use that.
Why are we not using hempinstead for paper and stuff?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Because it's cheap and it's, you would think,
because it is a bundle full.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
You would just you can grow it anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know, and it grows fast and you know what
that was?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
one of our like cash crops when our country was a
founding country was hemp.
Yes, so the rope because it wasvery hemp, is very good rope,
right.
I mean, it's still used todayfor rope, right, it is still
used today for rope.
But that's usually when you seecloth rope, that's him usually.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know it's very that basket weavy right, yeah,
that just boggles the mind likeyou can use this, but why don't
you use this?
Why do we have to use this thathas all these chemicals in it
and things that?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
you like to process and everything what they call
forever chemicals now is whatthey're saying.
They're stuck with youregardless during your body
already yeah, and that's thecrazy part, because that's the
money part, because of havingthat to grow the trees over
again, whatever they probablyfiguring that making the hemp
products well, they lose money,but they would sell so much they
they would hope that the hempwould grow fast enough for them
(03:59):
to freaking make the money theycan.
Well, it's the same thing likewith the hemp clothes.
The hemp clothes clothes ismore like a linen yeah, you know
what I'm saying.
So it's not even like the jeansthat is going to be warmer.
So the hemp clothing would work, you know, in warmer climates.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I don't know.
I think you can make anythingout of this stuff now pretty
much.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The only problem with the hemp clothing is it's not
as soft as cotton.
I think that might be theproblem.
I don't think you can use itfor like everything right, Isn't
it like a grainier?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
What's that hemp?
Yeah, so like making hempclothes, if that would be
beneficial.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Here we go.
So sustainable jobs.
Hemp and bamboo industriescreate jobs in framing,
processing, construction,textiles, paper, biodegradable
plastics, versatile both can beused for clothing, food, paper,
biofuel, construction materialslike hempcrete and even plastics
(04:55):
.
Low maintenance farming.
Low import input costs forwater, pesticides, fertilizers,
compared to crops like cotton,trees used for lumber and paper
there you go.
You don't have to cut down treesIf you don't have to cut down
trees just fucking grow new shit, right, exactly, I hate it.
I got to be honest with you.
When I see a tree cut down andthey're doing construction on
(05:16):
the side of the road, likethey're doing in Middletown,
right, I hate it.
It's like they just tore themdown just to put something there
, for whatever reason, right,maybe it's a good reason, but
still it's like trees, man.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
You know, yeah, and I feel youbecause, like even across the
street from one of our buildingsthat they just started, they're
getting ready to start buildingsoon, really, yeah, so yeah, no
, I feel you, but like you weresaying, tom hemp, I'm sorry.
Yeah, hemp tends to be moreexpensive and less readily
available than like cotton.
Yeah, so then it doesn't, it'snot as so it would cost more.
(05:52):
So the hemp is more expensivethan the cotton.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, but it's so much better for the
environment.
Yeah, again so either way itworks out it's.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's where the thing comes in.
So it's cheaper, as far as youknow, to get it, to make it and
what not, but you know,financially it does all this
stuff you know, it's just youknow bamboo fabrics are
breathable right antimicrobialright UV resistant and
biodegradable food hemp seedsare highly nutritious, rich in
(06:26):
protein, omega-3s and fiber.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I've gotten a lot of.
I had a lot of cereals thathave hemp seed, Like I used to
have this hemp seed granolacereal Good one.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But both these things grow in abundance.
That's the whole point.
You're getting it, it's gonna.
If you manufactured it and yougrew it, you would have it all
the time.
You know what I'm saying.
It's just a matter of I guesspeople are greedy.
They'd rather put shit inchemicals and food and put
papers to make their moneyrather than doing the right
thing.
But I get it.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I understand what you're saying, right, because I
mean as far as the differencebetween cotton and hemp, so that
then hemp fabric can beslightly stiffer and more
textured than cotton, thoughit's it softens with use, right?
So that then you know when youfirst buy it, people that have,
(07:16):
you know, like sensory issues orthey just don't like the way
that it feels on their skin, youknow they may not.
You know they're going to washit 10 times before they use it.
You know before they actuallywear it on a regular basis and
stuff like that.
So you know before theyactually wear it on a regular
basis and stuff like that.
So you know it's.
I guess it just depends on theperson you know.
But at the same time I thinkfor me and I'm going to go along
with what you're saying, lukeit is worthwhile because it's
(07:36):
cheaper and whatnot, becauseit'd be the same thing if you're
wearing silk.
You know polyester, and if youcan grow it at will, and if you
can grow it at will and you knowno big deal, you know like,
almost like, well, no, becauseyou don't have to.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Environmentally safe.
Yeah, you know, it's all of theabove.
Yeah, you're getting morebenefit out of it for your buck
that way I think yeah, it makesperfect sense.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, but they're not there yet Now you said that it
was stronger than it was.
It was good enough to use forconstruction.
Yeah, so that then, even withthat.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hempcrete, I guess it was called hempcrete Right,
really.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
Can you imagine, yep, now whenyou turn around and you use it
in a building?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, hempcrete Versus how both can be used in
clothing, food paper, biofuel,construction materials like
hempcrete and even plastics.
Yeah, see, so then it will bereally groovy.
So they're mixing it with otherstuff too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You would still need the wood for the framing of a
building, or metal you know,steel or whatever for the frame.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't know what you're getting at.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I'm saying no, you said like the hempcrete, so it's
more like the concrete to buildthe, you know, put the outside
of the of the building, or likeeven down south, so like down
south, or the lay brick, orwhatever you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I guess it depends on what you're using, right?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And that's what I'm saying.
But you would use, they'llstill have to use wood for the
framing because the hemp is forthe concrete part, like hempc
cementing.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Maybe use the block or whatever.
Yeah, the block.
I'm sorry, right, and like thebrick, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, so you know, but it would still be a good mix
and you know, and if it's morenot if it's reading here that it
is it's stronger, that then itwould probably work better in
down in.
You know, hurricane alley ortornado alley in the United
States, and you tornado alley,like in the united states, and
(09:26):
you know for houses and huts andstuff like that to be worth, it
would stay up, it wouldn't beknocked down or whatever.
You know in those places thatthey have the, the wild um
weather, right.
So, like you know, so, like Isaid, tornado alley in the
midwest, right.
So then if you build the housesout of the hempcrete, right,
it'll probably be stronger right, you know well, they're
building stuff, that's, that'sso.
(09:46):
And so you see the, the 3dprinters they have now that do
with the concrete, right, yeahyeah right it's crazy so then if
you use hempcrete right insteadof just the regular, say,
plastics or whatever, the 3dyeah, if it's there.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And it's abundant and you?
Can get it, it will I mean and,honestly, when you think about
it, that's what it was there for.
When you think about it, yeahright, it's not like you're
hurting anything yeah, right,and, like you said, because you
can, there's more of it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
You can build it up more right.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Hell yeah, safe environment, yeah you know it
helps your future generations.
You go in that direction.
It's, it's a.
It's a totally different storyyeah and you would think so
anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, I'm not going to lie, bro, until you brought
it to us, you know.
Do you say you wanted to do theepisode on this?
Well, actually, the both of youguys killed it with the ideas
for for the, the weed and thehemp.
I'm not even going to make dip,like I'll.
I'll, like I'm think about howthese things can help us.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You know, I said the last couple of episodes well,
not the last couple, but theepisodes that we've done as far
as what, the medicinal benefitsfor marijuana, you know now, the
hemp coming off of the plant,you and what you did on the last
episode, I'm like what?
And I said, and me reading onit, I'm like no way, like
there's just, I never thoughtthat there would be this many
things that hemp would be usedfor.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Or could be used for, that it'sworthwhile.
(11:09):
You know, like I said, I'mreading here a natural moisture
regulation.
Hempcrete is breathable,allowing moisture to move
through the walls, preventingmold and dampness.
So, again, if we're buildingout of that instead of concrete
in your basements, you wouldn'thave those kind of leaks in your
basement, maybe, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know what I'm saying?
It's like holy shit.
So the person who's doing itknows what he's doing.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You know, pest and fire resistant Hempcrete is
naturally resistant to pests androt and it has a high fire
rating, so it's like it'sanother one too.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So that's the safety thing right there.
Yeah, the burn rate, I think,on some of this stuff that
they're coming out with now islike it doesn't burn.
It takes so much for it to getto that point.
But that stuff's expensive.
But that's the future andthat's the direction you want to
go in, right when you thinkabout it.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
But it would only be expensive because nobody knows
the process.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Once it starts to pick it up, it'll take off Right
.
Just think about it, bro.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Back in how many years ago was it that the Plasma
TV came out?
It was like oh my God, it's$10,000 for this flat screen.
It's like holy Jesus, what thehell is going on.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And now you go to Money World.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And you're paying, you know, for 55 inch you're
paying 300 bucks on a five inch.
And you're like what?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's true, you're like right now I feel like thing
.
It was with the computers whenthey first started coming out,
exactly like an 80 inch for,like you know, gram you only
know, you only knew somebody whohad a computer and then next
year, you know, everybody wasgetting one.
Yeah, exactly, you know you'regoing to these shows and you
were getting them built rightdoing all this stuff you know
that crazy shit.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Look, indoor air quality.
Hemp's natural properties helppurify the air, removing dust
and bacteria.
Hello, can't be that.
Allergies, that it can helpdeal with allergies.
You're looking at that.
It can help deal with theasthma.
You know what I'm saying, bro,pet dander, you know.
So, like I said, I'm allergicto pets.
So then I mean your puppies arehypothergenic and such for me
(12:56):
or whatever.
But then you go to somebody'shouse and it might even help
with you know, all of thatthat's going on in the house.
I that that's going on in thehouse.
I mean, dude, that's freakingcrazy to me.
But then now here's where theyou know the kick in the nuts is
potential for higher initialcosts.
While the long-term costs ofhemp building materials can be
lower due to energy efficiencyand durability, the initial
price point might be higher thantraditional materials.
(13:18):
Yeah, but you know what?
But in the long run.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
look what you'll get.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Exactly Right, but in the long run.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Look what you'll get Right and you're going to make
out bigger than you did when youmake that that purchase for the
concrete.
Yeah, you'll, you'll pay that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, you know what I mean, right?
So, look, you got the uses ofhemp and construction.
So you got the hempcrete usedfor the walls and insulation.
Hemp insulation available forbat and bats and rolls.
You know panels and stuff,hemp-free blocks, easy to use
and assemble in the speed ofconstruction process.
Like we were saying before, theroofing can be used for roofing
(13:50):
due to its moisture resistanceand pest resistance.
Hello, right, that, right,there speaks volumes.
Yeah, fibers can be hemp,fibers can be woven into durable
carpets and furnishings fortextiles.
Nice, so you know I mean shit,bro.
This is that's insane.
Just this one plant that wouldbe able to again, like you said,
(14:13):
just be so much better for theenvironment, because if it,
grows randomly, I mean, if youcan get it to and it just grows
in abundance, yeah and that's,and it grows fast, Right?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So I don't I understand what you're saying as
far as the price is concerned.
I think You're making out inthe long run versus the right
away in.
You step into it, You're goingto.
In the long run, you're goingto make out for it for sure.
Because you're going to getmore out of it than you did what
you paid into it.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Yeah, but that was the same thing that they say or
that is being said about.
Like solar power, you know, youget the panels, whether it's on
your roof or your backyard orwherever you're putting it.
The initial cost is like, ohthe cow, it's bananas, but it'll
pay off on the other endbecause you're not paying that
crazy electric bill.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right, right.
So same idea with the hemp, Iguess again it's the investment.
(15:03):
Right, exactly, it's theinvestment.
That's the word.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm glad you said that, because it was like yeah,
and my house is perfect becausethe sun comes right over the top
of the back of my house.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, To the front, like right over, you've got a
good setup for it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I would only need it on the backside of the house,
right.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Because it's their only thing?
Or did they stop doing that?
Don't they like pay for theroof or something to be done, or
something?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
My roof was already done.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I already have new shingles.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I have new shingles on my roof already.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No, no, Don't you have to reinforce it to hold the
weight of the solar panels.
They have to go in and inspectthe roof to see.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Okay, this is what's going on in your roof?
We're going to need to do ABCand D, then they're going to
have to install, probably likecross beams or whatever knowing
where it's going to fall out.
So they knew that when theyscrewed into the roof they were
catching.
Yeah, Because they got to tieinto whatever's inside the roof.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Sometimes they'll replace your roof for you,
though, really yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
But doesn't have to, don't you have to?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
well, I don't know I don't want to do that Am.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I going to bring a new fucking roof.
Yeah, you don't want to do that, right?
Well, you don't need that yetthe installation.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hell, that happened to me.
Oh.
And then the insurance.
People were running aroundstorm chasers and they would you
know.
Oh, we're going to do your roofand this that and the other
thing, and then we wound up.
It was yeah, it was a whole bigschmeal.
That's crazy, but think aboutit, though.
Same thing with like textiles,right?
Yeah, they say the most thingthat shouldn't be in a landfill
(16:30):
not that it should be in alandfill, but most of all, is
clothing, right, you know, likeblankets, anything like that
shouldn't be in it because ittakes forever for it to break
down.
It's not good, right?
Rather, recycle it.
But they can take that type offabric and break it down and
then reuse it again.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That can be recycled for different stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You can.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Especially.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean the number one thing is like filling, like on
like pillows and throw pillows.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Couch cushion right?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
sure, I didn't even think of that absolutely yep,
dude, that's, that's just insane, I think, for me only because
of the way I think and theconversation that we've had yeah
, exactly no and the v not tosay but the vegan part of it,
too, is now you're not usinganimals.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You're using whatever you have in abundance, because
you have so much of it now Likethe same with the plastics.
You can use that shit too to dothat and make hard benches and
do all this other stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, the recycled plastics.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Right, right, they can melt all that shit down.
I don't believe it, man.
Yeah, bro, if we but I'm sayingthat that's why not go that
direction.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's the way to go.
I mean, we're going to burn itdown.
Well, there's not even the burnit down part, Just like you
said earlier.
Just all that shit that's inthe landfills.
You know what I mean?
What's the name of the garbagethat's floating in the ocean?
You?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
mean all the plastic.
Yeah, the Pacific Garbage Patch, yeah, that shit.
It's heartbreaking.
Man Think about this.
When you see it, it's just likeheartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, it is heartbreaking, but it's so
freaking huge, Aren't somepeople cleaning that up and
they're using it for recyclingRight to recycle.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
But we should be able to go in there, scoop the whole
shit up there are people thatdo that stuff, for sure.
Right, not little at a time.
They I mean for me go in thereand scoop that whole shit over,
get it too close to the land andthen just take it out every day
, you know and just redo theplastic.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I know that they're definitely doing.
Some people are definitelyworking to get that stuff out of
there for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, because I mean what?
Now they're using holy cowfinding fish and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, finding fish in there and all that stuff.
They have plastics in themRight.
No, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yep Wild, the microplastics and all that shit
that's everywhere and whatnot.
So I mean you know the fish areeating at it because it's
starting to break down little bylittle, or other fish just
nipping at it so it breaks thelittle plastic off and then like
finding out that the colorplastic bottles aren't good for
us to even be drinking out of.
So that's why even now, some ofthe soda companies have changed
(18:57):
their bottles from the colorsto the clear.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, there weren't many, though.
Like Sprite is clear, there itis Sprite's on the clear bottle.
That's why Because come to findout that the dye is in there
Mountain Dew, mellow, yellow,right they all have stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You're right.
Yeah, I know All of them.
It's crazy, yeah, but isn'tcertain sodas green as well?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Some ginger ales certain ginger ales, right Well,
but the ginger ale bottles it'slike a brown color.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Or green.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
No, no, no, I'm talking about the ginger ale
itself, the actual liquid, notthe bottle.
So now they're making them witha bottle.
That's just now clear, becausethose colors, the color dyes
were harmful.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
The same thing that we were talking about before and
no one thought about thatbecause they associated it with
glass because, the color glasshas nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It doesn't throw Exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And that's what it was, because the glass breaks,
so they didn't want peoplegetting hit in the head with the
glass bottle you know, or aglass bottle breaking somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That's why they started using those colors
though, because Sprite used toprobably come in a green glass
bottle.
It did.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
It came in a green glass bottle, so did 7-Up, and
7-Up came in that other.
Yep, all that stuff came incolored glass.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So they just continued it.
They're like, oh, we want greenRight exactly and keep it in
there.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And it was cheaper to do the plastic than it was to
keep making the glasses RightGlasses are much better.
Right, so they started torecycle the bottles.
So they would desanitize thebottles and then refill them and
put new caps on them and putthem back into circulation.
Did you know that?
I didn't know that, yeah, did.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Did they really do that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What did they clean themproperly?
I?
Mean, I don't have a problemwith that If they recycle them
the proper way and then they canreuse them.
Sure, do that.
I don't have a problem withthat.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's better than what they do now, because, like
now, it's either like if youlive in, like in New Jersey,
like they collect the recyclingRight.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It just gets broken up, and then I know they have
the things where it shreds theglass, and yeah, but so what
they're doing is that they youknow you get the money back for
the.
Yeah, you do that.
Yeah, the five cent refunds yeahso you, they turn around and
they get all the plastics, theyshred it or put it in the
compactor, right in the baler,they wrap it all up and then
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they send it out to get re, toget recycled for whatever it is
that they're going to use it forand whatnot, and then, you know
, put into other things.
Now, that's the other thing too.
For certain things, theplastics, certain color plastics
, can't be recycled.
Certain kinds of plasticbottles cannot be recycled.
So then they need to stopmaking those bottles, and that's
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what the idea is.
So now, because our show isabout hemp, that now if we have
the hemp material and we canmake, you know, different cups,
different bottles, reusablethings, like we have a water
fountain at work where you takeyour water bottle and you put it
up, you know, in the fountainand it fills up your can, your
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reusable water bottle Nice, asopposed to using or buying.
You know a case of water, youknow what I'm saying.
Like, I drink filtered water athome.
I have the filter pitcher withthe filter, yes, sort of, and
you know that's where I pour mywater out of, you know.
So then, if they do things likethat, if hemp can do shit like
that, and bamboo.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And there you go, there you go.
Don't forget about bamboo.
Bamboo is all you could.
That should grow.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, One day you could use bamboo as a cup, man.
That would be cool, you know,because then think of how cool
that would look.
A bamboo cup, a bamboo cup.
I'm sure you can get it.
Yeah, that would be freakingawesome, man, you know.
But again, what else can we use?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's just growing plant on earth.
Some species grow three feetper day, regrows after
harvesting without needingreplanting, unlike trees,
requires no pesticides and verylittle water, produces 35% more
oxygen than trees and absorbsmore CO2.
I mean I mentioned this earlierHelps prevent soil erosion due
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to its dense roots, its denseroot system.
So there you go.
Now you're helping the planet,yeah, same time, and you can use
it for utensils and you're nothurting it.
It'll grow.
Yeah, cut it down.
It's like what's that plantthat comes back every year?
Hostas.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Hostas come back every year.
Oh, hostas Right, they'll go.
Fall comes, they shrivel down,you cut them down, you bring
them to the ground right.
Next year they come right backup.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
No problem.
So look, bamboo is tough anddurable.
There are a ton of places youcan buy bamboo cups online, so
yeah, you can even use a bamboofor a cup.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Sure Hello.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Hello, that bamboo for a cup, sure, hello, hello,
that's not cool.
No, that is.
I mean, I guess listen.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I guess it depends on your preference, but you know,
I think if at some point in thefuture they go in the right
direction, as far as notworrying about the money so much
but looking to take care of thepeople that they're serving and
the cool part about bamboo isthe wood.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You know it makes you make wood.
It makes it's.
You know the bigger ones areused for like, not lumber for
construction but wood for likethey make scaffolds out of them.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Did you ever see?
I don't know what country it'sin, but they use scaffold.
They make scaffolds out ofbamboo and build fucking
buildings.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I've seen things I didn't know about that I'm going
to look that up.
I've seen things like you knowcutting boards and like hangers.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Right, yeah, and so you do all those things?
Yeah, I was saying because youwere looking it up, so I had
already looked it up, so I knewyou wanted to read off of it.
That's what I'm saying.
No, I can't, I'm sorry, I knowhow my glasses are.
So, yeah, you can build withbamboo.
It is versatile and sustainablematerial.
A versatile and sustainablematerial right that can be used
for a whole range of structures,from simple shelters to complex
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buildings.
Bamboo is strong, grows rapidlyand is resistant to pests
moisture we know that same asthe hemp, making a viable
alternative to traditionalbuilding materials like wood.
So then you can use the woodactually instead of I'm sorry,
you can use the bamboo insteadof the wood.
Right, there it is, and thatit'll be as strong.
So now, if you're using, youdon't have to cut down the trees
you don't have to cut down thetrees I said, like you said, the
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bamboo grows bigger and faster,whatever.
So then now you use the hempcrete for like the walls and you
use the bamboo for the framing.
Now you got yourself a super, asuper sustainable house, and
you know what I mean.
If that's not like you said andlike we were talking about
before on in the long runeco-friendly super eco-friendly,
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but it's it's it's beneficialto the environment and to your
pockets in the long run.
Right, and then you can.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think it's to the environment and to your pockets
in the long run.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right, and then you can use geothermal Just based on
what we're Right, there you go.
You know geothermal.
That's a great thing too.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, and so all that stuff is great, you know, and
then hopefully we'll get out ofour own fucking way.
Right, me may not be around tosee it.
Yeah, it might be just at thebeginning of it before we depart
wonderful planet, I'm going tobe a cyborg, you know.
It'll be interesting if, like Ihope, it goes to that point
where it's more about takingcare of one another yeah, not
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school, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, bro.
You know what I'm?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
saying listen like nature, baby, take care of the
planet.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Take it good to her, she'll be good to you yeah, yep,
so like here it's uh, costeffectiveness in some cases,
bamboo can be more affordablethan traditional building
materials.
So then the more money that youwould spend on the hemp creep
right, you would then save.
You know, or no longer, now, no, no, you would save from
building the wood.
So that then would you know.
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So you would use the bamboo asthe as your framing, like I said
, and that would be cheaper thanusing the wood.
So then it would even out sothe house would still be five
hundred thousand dollars insteadof you know.
It's super strong.
Yeah, it is Dude.
I'm telling you, man, thatwould be so cool, that would be
so cool.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, see, I got to win the lotto so I could build
the house over there, you and mein a whole damn freaking
country, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Pretty much man.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Pretty much.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's not one person in this freaking country doesn't
want to hit the freakinglottery.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, no lie.
Well, I'm just saying it's justthat you know to have that
money, that'd be great to beable to go and you know, build a
house like that, cause you gotto get the people that know how
to build it to where you are,but you can take the time now to
it.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You don't have to worry about a rush.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah right, yeah right, yeah, that'd be so cool,
and then you can even thinkabout because you can bend
bamboo you know what I'm sayingand hemp too, but I mean as far
as the building.
So you can bend okay what doyou think?
I say, okay, we won't do that,but you can bend the bamboo, so
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this way you can make thearchways in your house without
having you know.
Like I said, the wood is alittle bit harder.
I'm sure it's probablydifficult to work with in some
aspects.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure it would have to bemolded and do all that to it
like they do factory-wise.
Yeah, break it down, turn itinto what they need it into.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Oh yeah, that's got to be, like I said, just as a
whole, you know it being asstrong or stronger both hemp and
bamboo than you know than thanconcrete and and wood.
To me it sounds like a betteranswer.
You know to build your stuffwith, like I said, especially
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because you know.
Out in the Midwest, you look atthe places where there's
tornadoes and the hurricanes arekilling.
You know everything and it'spath down south, with tornadoes
too.
But you know, coming off thesouthern part of the country and
I mean use it, all the placesthat are flood zones.
You know what.
You have a hemp house and it'llprobably be the border.
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Like I said, using it as abasement material.
The border probably won't gothrough, you know, probably
won't seep through the walls andeat at the base.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
There's a mother nature at some point is gonna
probably win but if you can makeit last longer or prevent it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That'd be great.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yep, hong Kong.
Ambu scaffolding has been usedfor more for centuries and still
widely used today, constructionfrom small buildings to high
rises and favored for beinglightweight, strong, flexible,
cost-effective.
Skilled craftsmen known asscaffolders or tap hang
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especially trained to assemblethese intricate structures,
often without use of the safetyharness, which is pretty amazing
and a little nerve wracking towatch.
Hell, yeah, I would do it.
You wouldn't even catch me onthat.
Never Can you imagine askyscraper and you just get it
rough, forget it.
That's not happening bro, yeah,bro, yeah, no, I'm with you I
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get up to like halfway to thethird, I'll be like, you know,
I'm good, I'm good right herehell yeah, what well you need me
to watch this window?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
yeah, I'll do this, I'm not going any higher man,
that is freaking insane.
Yeah, it would be, man, I'mtelling you just, I think that
we as Thailand too, and Vietnam,oh okay.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
China, india, yeah, so it's definitely used.
They use it, they're smart.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
They're fucking smart .
That's where.
That's where bamboo likeoriginated from right, like
they're from Asia, right oh yeah, they come from from climates.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
they've been using it for years, right, that's what?
From Asia, right?
Oh yeah, they come fromclimates that are-.
They've been using it for years, right?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's what I don't I'm telling you people I don't
get it.
It's crazy how societies arejust setting their ways.
It's like oh, we use lumber, wehave lumber.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, it's fucking countries now.
Well, because nobody knows.
Well, you know, like everywherethat you go, depending on how
quote unquote old, that thatarea is the countries they use
different things to build.
So you know, you go out into,like England, ireland and stuff
like that, everything was stone.
So they got stone houses, maybea little bit of wood framing,
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you know, on the inside forcertain things, but their rooms,
their walls are all separatedby stone.
The older buildings, thecastles and stuff.
You know.
You go down into Asia a littlebit further south, on that side
it's the bamboo and the thingslike that.
That that's what's.
You know, holding up theshingles and stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's the wild thing when you, when you go to like
old countries, like seeing thesecathedrals have been hundreds
of years.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah Out of stone, wow Out of stone, wow out of
stone.
So then now, here it is stoneis like aren't they rebuilding?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
that's like the ultimate.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
They did finish it yeah, that's really the ultimate
sustainable thing yeah well butagain stone it's one of those
things that now wouldn't use youknow right, but I think, long
term, I don't think it's reallythe the, the offset of of the
mining.
I don't think is that bad forthe longevity of like forever.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Right, what do you mean?
The the, the stone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You say oh, people go , the mining's a lot of you know
, I'm sure that's expensive initself, just mining it.
Yeah, I'm sure that's expensivein itself, just mining it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
The mining is a big carbonfootprint because of all the
machinery, but when you thinkabout it, if it's going to last
lifetimes, then is that?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
really sustainable, because now you have to insulate
that rock.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You see what I'm saying.
So then it's not as Well.
That's where the geothermalcomes in.
The geothermal comes in Right.
That's where the geothermalcomes in.
The geothermal comes in Right.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But it's not insulated.
It's pretty cool, Like whatthey use.
They dig underground.
They use the coolness from theearth 55 degrees, you know like
that wine cellar temperature,right, and that's where they
heat or cool that air.
So it's a guaranteed.
Like 55 degrees, it could be 20degrees outside, right, you're
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taking 55 degree air.
Or Like 55 degrees, it could be20 degrees outside, right,
you're taking 55 degree air.
Or if it's 90 degrees outside,you're cooling 55 degrees to 70
degrees.
Yeah, it's not that bad?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Exactly no, it works and it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
That's really awesome .
I would do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You could do that here.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I don't think I can.
I already checked.
No, yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It.
It's not in this area.
I think depending on the groundyeah, so I just thought you
could do it over here.
I thought it was more too rockyin this area oh yeah, I didn't
think about that too we're up inthe mountains, but then, like
again, your house would have tobe insulated.
So you can't do that in a rockhouse without having some kind
of insulation on the inside ofthe rock.
It's good if you're in a warmclimate, though.
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Right, if you're in a warmclimate, then it works and
that's all groovy, it's cool.
Right, then you're good to go.
But then it depends on whereyou are.
So you can't do that in inFlorida, in Southern Florida,
central.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You can't you can't have basements.
That's why.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I know, in in South America.
I know, yeah, not a big fanEverywhere, but because it's hot
down there.
Yeah, I get that you slip onthat shit and bust your ass.
No, I'd rather give me theformica floor.
I mean not the formica, I meanthe wood floor.
(33:53):
You know what I'm saying?
Like give me something thatyou're busting your ass.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Well, don't forget the stuff.
Hemp can be just like that tileon the floor.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
There you go, and that's that's like you started
with that.
If it's going to be somethingthat's going to be worthwhile,
safe, hello, we should use itRight, you know we should.
We've we're already in a spot,and I think in our society,
where we can seriously look andthink about doing things better.
(34:28):
You know what I'm saying.
And more economical because ithow many houses, how much
concrete, you know, are wemaking to build?
You know however many houses.
You know that we're taking allthis wood, all these trees, the
rainforest that are just youknow.
It's like, come on, bro, likeit's gotta be something else or
something a little bit different.
(34:49):
And only once in a while do youget to watch, like you know,
hgtv when they're building a newhouse.
Or you know this old housewhere they always, you know they
usually come up with somepretty cool stuff and you know
you only get a couple of housesthat people are willing to spend
, you know, a little bit extramoney to.
You know, to have aenvironmentally friendly house.
(35:10):
You know what I'm saying.
And it's like, come on, bro,you know.
Like you know, even with theelectric vehicles, you know,
even I'm talking about, likebuilding the electric vehicles,
being able to use some of thosesustainable materials.
Like you know, you could usehemp, you know, or bamboo to
make the fiber.
It's almost like if it's acarbon fiber.
So now you're making it, soyou're using that.
(35:32):
Right, that makes the carlighter, so now it's more fuel
efficient, whether it's batteryfuel or fossil fuels.
You know what I'm saying Idon't know, or both Hybrid,
hybrid.
Yeah Right, you know, for methat's that's where it's at,
that's what we should startlooking at you know, do hybrid
and work your way back.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, just go from there.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, Cause, I mean, I know it.
Nobody can actually sit and sayoh, sit and say oh, you know,
gas is just the only way to go.
It's not as bad as you think.
Diesel is not as bad as youthink.
You can see it when it snows Iknow people in the South can see
it.
When it snows it's black.
The snow on the side of theroad is black, Not when it first
happens.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
No, no, no Right.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Give it half a day, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know what I'm saying Exactly I why?
Because, excuse me, I got alittle dry throat.
Everything else doesn't melt,so like all the dirt from the-.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Resilience and everything yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Exactly.
It clings on and then the watermelts, and then what's left is
all gone.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, exactly, so you're seeing all the good and
everything is there.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Especially when you're in the parking lot.
You see the big mountains ofdirt it looks all nice and then,
after like a few days, when itstarts melting, it starts
getting better, and then youwatch when it's done.
It's all rocks and like all thepavement that like broken off
on the ground.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Exactly so now you got all that shit that's there
in the in the snow.
That's how you know that it's.
We shouldn't be breeding allthat stuff, you know?
Think of how many people haveasthma, how many people just
have some kind of breeding issue.
You know what I mean?
The allergies, hello, it's.
These are all things.
We need to start looking as asociety, I feel as a whole all
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over the world.
We need to start looking as asociety, I feel, as a whole all
over the world.
We need to start looking athemp, as you brought up Lou with
the bamboo, you know, andanything else, yeah, anything
else that would help, you know,and what it's going to be to
make these things.
Because, I mean, people'sbiggest argument is about oh
well, it's the same carbonfootprint, because how do you
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make this stuff?
To me it's not technically thesame thing, because if it's only
, let's say, a size 10 footprint, that's making the product, say
the solar panels or thewindmills or whatever, it's not
you as another size 10 that'susing this stuff.
You, you're a size one.
(38:04):
If that it does that make sense, I guess.
Yeah, you know, you're notusing.
It's not the same kind ofcarbon footprint for you to be
living off of.
Well, I think, clean energy.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It it's, it's in the process, you know, based on what
we're reading and what we'rehearing, you know and seeing it
on the move.
It's just a matter of time whenit has its point, where it
takes off.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
I'm going to write to HGTV andget one of those TV shows when
they're building a house,because I'm sure it's because
those materials are probablyhard to get because they're not
readily some things I'm notsaying all Right, and that's
what we're for.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
So now you have to order it, or whatever.
Yeah, but again, if you'reordering it, but like you said
before, in the long run you'regoing to make out.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
It'll make out on the other end, you know, and it'll
be cost effective.
You would hope so anyway.
Yeah, because if it costs me500 grand to build and on the
other end of you know, say in 10years that now you know the
house is paid for, I'm sorry mymortgage has gone down because
all my bills monthly bills.
I should say I'm sorry mymonthly bills have gone down
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because you know I'm not usingas much oil, you know, to heat
up the house.
I'm not using as much whateverto keep the house functioning.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It'll be nice when society will be able to sustain
their own energy for their ownhome without having to pay
somebody to get the energy topower your home Right.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Wouldn't that be great?
We don't need a power grid.
Everybody has their own powersystem.
That would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So then wouldn't that be the solar energy or clean
energy as a whole?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
No, it could be anything.
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I'm asking, I'm I'm asking like would that be
considered as not, you know, younot having to pay the because?
Isn't that how it is now, ifyou have a, if you have solar,
if you have clean energy, when?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I mean you're totally off where you're like in the
sense when you do that?
I don't know bro I don't knoweither, but all I know is that
you're paying somebody right now.
You're paying somebody.
You're paying whether it's gasor electric or both.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, I'm saying, if you've got the, I know, I
remember reading If you hadsomething that made their own
energy for your house.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
So then Then just powers your house without paying
anybody, because it's yourenergy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I know like you do, sell, yeah Power back to the
company Do you the power company, but it's not more than their.
But it's not more than their.
You know what I mean.
I don't think it's like like anegative, like I think you still
end up using some power, butlike Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
That's what I'm saying.
You save money, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You don't use as much , yeah, so it's Because you use
more of the solar energy Right.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Because you're banking hours or whatever, for
because you're giving back intothe, to the grid, or whatever,
okay, and every time we try to,you know we got interested in it
.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
We really didn't make money.
We kind of broke even Okay.
And then we were really justsay well, we're doing it more
for the, the green thing, youknow what I mean?
That's what we.
We were like, we just never didit.
And then COVID hit andeverything went into a totally
different direction.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah, Right, right, right, right, yeah.
Well, I mean, I've seen acouple of houses going further
up north and they have windmillson their property houses, you
know.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
It's not the big crazy, you know airplane
propeller looking thing, it wasmore like it was.
It was more like a, likevertical.
It was long like a tube and itwould spin, catch the wind.
It was wild, it was crazy.
And I was like, oh snap, andthat was where they, that was
their windmill, you know notsomething crazy on their
property, that just bananas.
(41:36):
It was.
You know, nice, looking almostlike ornamental.
Yeah, so you know, listen, Ibelieve that there's a way to
fix, solve the way, theaesthetics.
I think that there's a way.
I mean, I've seen it even too,as far as solar panels are
concerned, for your roof.
They made them.
They look like shingles.
They're not just that one bigcrazy panel, it looked like
shingles on the roof.
(41:57):
And that was how you were likethat's, yeah, that's what I'm
saying, so I've seen that.
So you know's, really, you likethe tin roof.
So now, if you can get it,where that tin roof or the
copper roof?
I'm sorry, like strips it comesin strips and that then that's
your solar panel, because it'ssoaking up the sun rays.
You know what I mean?
Hello, to get too off.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Now you can.
You can tap into solar farmstoo.
You know right, you have solarfarms now.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It's cooler, though, and that's where I mean, if you
really want to.
I know where we're talkingabout hemp in this, but the is.
I know, I saw it a while agothose electronic roads, the
polygon roads, right, the onesthat interlock.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, those things are cool.
They were LED powered solar.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
So they powered the road, they had LEDs in them,
they had solar power in them andthey were heated.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
They had heaters in them.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I don't know if it could all be powered off itself,
but maybe put back into thegrid it's the future.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
It is the future, my friend.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
But the cool thing is , if you have LED roads like
that, you can change the lanes.
If there's construction, youclose the lanes, make them red.
If there's an emergency, theywould open lanes up for
emergency service based on theroad.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I only saw that in somebody's driveway you could
have emergency services like twomiles up the highway and
they're already and the lanesare already open.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
The lanes up?
Yeah, it would be like redboxes, like emergency service
everybody would move over.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
That'd be great.
You could that that.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
That's the coolest that is the cool shit.
Listen well with that.
We love talking about future, Iknow, yeah yeah, that's like
our, like weekend that's get.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
That's our nerdy shit .
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, like I said, the future should be hemp,
should be bamboo, as far asanything that's sustainable,
anything you use.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yes, like that's why I think we should go, not going
to hurt the environment Right.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's the bomb right there, bro.
So with that, so with that love, peace and hair grease, live
long and prosper.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Hello.
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