May 28, 2025 • 44 mins
Have you ever wondered if our organs hold more than just biological function? Could your heart carry memories, your liver harbor personality traits, or your kidneys retain emotional tendencies?
The Jersey Guy Podcast tackles one of the most fascinating medical mysteries of our time: cellular memory in organ transplants. Through engaging conversation, the hosts examine numerous documented cases where transplant recipients experienced dramatic and unexplained changes following their surgeries. From Claire Sylvia suddenly craving chicken nuggets and beer after receiving a heart from a teenage boy, to an eight-year-old girl having nightmares that led to solving her donor's murder, these stories challenge our understanding of consciousness and identity.
The episodes delves into various perspectives on this phenomenon, exploring Eastern spiritual traditions that associate organs with specific emotions and energies. While mainstream science remains skeptical—attributing such experiences to psychological factors, medication effects, or confirmation bias—the consistency and specificity of these stories raise profound questions about what makes us who we are.
Beyond the medical implications, this discussion opens up philosophical territory about human interconnectedness. If memories and traits can transfer through physical organs, what does this suggest about the nature of consciousness? Are we, as the hosts suggest, all connected like "space dust," linked in ways science hasn't fully recognized?
Whether you're fascinated by medical oddities, spiritual connections, or the frontiers of consciousness research, this thought-provoking episode will leave you questioning the boundaries between individuals and wondering what unexpected traits you might inherit if you ever received someone else's organ. Subscribe now and join the conversation about one of modern medicine's most persistent mysteries.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Jersey Guy Podcast.
What's going on, gentlemen?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, we're doing good.
You know it's a good night.
We had cool.
We're having a good time, asalways.
You know, we had a good laughright before we Started the
episode.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, that was funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me,excuse me, sorry about that.
That's good stuff.
Yo, that is too funny, man, wehad a good laugh right before we
started the episode.
Yeah, yeah excuse me, excuse me, sorry about that.
That's good stuff.
Yo, that is too funny, man.
Oh yeah, that's good.
I'm still in good moods.
It's good spirits, because thisis some craziness now.
Yeah, like some bugged outcrazy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I thought you guys would like this topic because it
was.
I found it interesting to saythe least right Interesting to
say the least Right that aperson would get experiences or
start taking up differenthobbies or something to that
effect, because they receivedsomebody's organ, whatever it
might be.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So the episode today is about, just to make sure we
know the theory that if you gotsomeone else's organ donated to
you, that you would get theirmemories memories and like
traits and things about yeah,yeah, right, certain that they
like.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, that's wild, yeah, that's wild, that's
straight out of science fiction.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know what I mean, like that stuff that you've
only, we've only heard on TVmovies or you know, just stories
, books or whatever.
So that's just even thinkingabout it and, like I was telling
you guys before, I didn't eventhink about asking my sister or
my, my dad, because my sisterdonated a kidney to to him,
(01:40):
right, and so that then I'mwondering if he, you know, if,
if he did anything or hadanything that he felt changed,
because so he had a livertransplant, right, and he's had
a kidney transplant, so ofcourse the liver was, you know,
was a different kind of donation, and then the kidney from my
sister.
So I never even thought to askhim if he even had any thoughts
or feelings or anythingdifferent.
(02:00):
He felt different when he'dreceived, yeah, like afterwards,
how did he feel when he had,with thought to ask him if he
even had any thoughts orfeelings or anything different.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He felt different when he'd received it.
Yeah, Like afterwards.
How did he feel when he had hisnew?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
kid.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, did they have any experiences or anything
like that?
Yeah, I'm going to say probablynot as much.
Only because it's in the family.
You're already part of oneanother.
Right, that's your offspring,that's your daughter.
She's giving you something.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, he was my mom since I was 15 and I'm 53 now,
so that's how many years youknow what.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So again I said yeah, that's why.
So you know, it was still my.
My sister was still mid-teens,if he does.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
If he did, so I'm not , yeah, I wonder, you should ask
him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
There's some interesting stories of people
who've had those kind ofexperiences Mm-hmm Because stuff
.
You know Now what was the stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, I'll send it to you right now.
Then let's see.
It says here there have beenseveral intriguing cases with
organ transplant recipientsclaimed to have experienced
personality changes, new habitsor even memories that seem to
align with their donor's life.
Will these cases or anecdotal?
They continue to discussion ofa possibility of cellular memory
(03:24):
.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Here are some of the most well-known cases Claire
Sylvia new craving andpersonality traits.
Claire Sylvia's heart-lungtransplant recipient, wrote A
Change of Heart 1997, where shedescribed craving beer, green
peppers and chicken nuggets foodshe'd never liked before.
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
See, that's crazy.
So she basically got a hearttransplant and now she had all
these foods for beer and chickennuggets.
And like yeah, that's wow,green peppers.
So those are things that thatperson that she got it from
probably yeah, the guy who likedit.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's what it says.
Next, he was an 18-year-oldyoung man Love these foods.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, the guy who that's what it says.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Next, he was an 18-year-old young man Love these
foods.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, that sounds like an 18-year-old Dude yeah, I
know I love chicken nuggets.
That's guy food.
Yeah, I want some chickennuggets.
Yeah, and she also reportedfeeling more masculine and
outgoing after the transplant.
So you know, yeah, that'sserious.
What about?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
this one, this one is the one.
I heard that.
I thought was interestingEight-year-old girl.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And her donor's murder.
An eight-year-old girl receiveda heart transplant having
nightmares or even beingmurdered.
She described it so vivid thatdoctor's parents informed the
police.
The investigation led tocapture of the donor's actual
murderer.
Confirming details the girl hadnever known before.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Whoa yeah, you see, bro, that's nuts.
Well, see, now, I know we'retalking about this, but I get it
.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
See, this is the thing where, like, we're more
connected than we think.
What is reality and what is not.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But see, now you're saying that because that's where
I was going to go with it.
So that now Makes you questionreality yeah.
What is real Like.
Is it I need more?
Did you really?
So?
If we're in the matrix, did youreally give that person the
transplant?
You know what I mean?
And now, if we're in the matrixand we're all, because it's all
in the code.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh, you're thinking like the simulation, yeah.
So then, if it's all on codeyou know what I'm saying, I just
took some of my code and put iton yours.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm just saying Same idea.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I know that was a little bit out there for you.
Like, over like the course oflike 10 years, you actually turn
into that person Like fullyRight, Dude.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
That would be so insane, bro Like you slowly have
a transition period like bothof them.
But then that's the other thingtoo.
So you've heard, when peopleget hit in the head really hard
or that they have some kind ofbrain trauma, that their
personalities change or theybecome really fucking smart.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
There was a case where a man what happened?
He wound up becoming like amathematician or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he neverknew math, he hated it Right,
and now he's a freaking genius.
Now he's like this wizard.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I know we're getting off topic here, but you
know, what is the funniest Isthe ones, the people that have
like.
The funniest is the ones thepeople that have like they have
like a traumatic injury or likethey or like they could have a
cancer.
Whatever it is they.
They have a brain.
Something happened with braininjury and now they have.
They have an accent fromanother country like a woman had
like a chinese accent?
she's no, but she's originallyfrom like england, and she's
(06:40):
like she's like that peoplethink I speak a china east, but
like that's how she talks yeahand like there was another lady
who's like speaking with aFrench.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I still but she's like they showed a video of her
and she's like from England shutup, because I think they took
this in like England yeah, bro,that's insane.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I can't wait till I find out.
I don't want this to happen toanybody but you know, get that
case where someone's talking tome from Brooklyn.
They've been in Brooklyn theirlife and they're from like
Finland.
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Exactly, well, you know.
But or Jersey, well, so thatthen I wonder.
So we don't have that in ourstuff, but I'm wondering if that
would be something that wouldhappen from an organ transplant.
You know what I'm saying Pickup another accent, Like you said
maybe not immediately.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
They say foods.
They say Right, if you're doingthe four or like mannerisms,
right, you could pick up somemannerisms Maybe.
They said music.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, right, right, said that music that you turn
around.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They never listen to certain music.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's what I'm saying, man.
It shows you how connected youare to your body.
You don't even realize it.
Like what's if I got?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
like a heart transplant and the person was
like Jamaican.
And like I started doing, likewhen people and every time
someone says something stupid, Igo, I do something like that,
you know.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Oh my God, yeah, man.
But you know what I mean,because that's a yeah, yeah, oh
my god, yeah, man.
But it's the truth.
But see, and I mean, yeah, it'sstill the same thing to me, but
you know, with your vehicles orpeople, so, like you say like
they say you know because I ridemotorcycles, so don't, if
there's a somebody crashes amotorcycle, don't buy the
crashed motorcycle like don'trebuild it, you shouldn't.
(08:24):
You know what I'm saying.
But same thing with a car.
You don't buy a car thatsomebody died in because you
know it's like Christine.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Remember that movie, Christine.
Somebody died in.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, you ever see that.
You seen the horror movie,christine.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, with the car.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, of course, see that.
Yeah, so that then think aboutit, bro.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean, is that if the car is haunted yeah, you
know they should they shouldinform you and be like we're
giving.
We, we have a kidney for you,we have a heart for you.
We found a, but the person wasmurdered right?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
well, that's what they'll be like but that's the
same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
When lou just read the eight-year-old girl giving
details to you know, saying likethat's gotta be insane, bro.
That means I would rather die.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I would rather kill it off than get your heart
but what if it was from a serialkiller?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
you were getting a serial killer's organs.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I would be a good movie.
I think they've done somethinglike that.
Really, I don't know if theydid that, that movie.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I don't remember the name of it so I'm not even going
to make believe.
Like I remember, I don'tremember.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But yeah, dude, that would be sick.
So now do you turn around?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
right.
And now do you keep an eye onthat person?
Because now you, as theauthorities or the doctor or
family member, you know.
Well, you don't.
They don't tell you who it isthat you're getting the, the
organs from Right.
They just tell you you have towrite a letter to the family.
You know what I'm saying.
So that then you know,depending on who it is, or
whatever, that then you know.
You don't want to know who itis, you're just saying thank you
(09:52):
for it and I appreciate youknow the love.
So if you, yes, turn around andcould get traits from somebody
because of their, I totally seeit happening.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, it makes sense.
Mm-hmm, listen, what do youcall it?
I don't know.
So, jamie Sherman, right, thiskid wound up liking from a
transplant from a young boy wholoved classical music.
After the transplant, jamie hadnever enjoyed classical people
ever and then wound up liking itand he met his parents and they
told him he was, he was gettinginto classical music, you see
(10:36):
there you go when you see, thisis not the thing.
It's not that I don't believethis is happening.
The thing is is that when itdoes happen, people don't
believe it.
I'm thinking how do you believethat it totally makes sense?
You know this energy there.
It's something that's fromsomebody else that they were
carrying with them for a longtime makes you really like, like
(10:56):
, what is, like I said, likewhat is reality, like what are
we?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
you know?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
yeah like well, I mean, think about it, bro, like
stuff like that, like yes rightbut now so you and I a little
bit more sci-fi geeks with someof the stuff right and listen to
what I'm saying, that's whatI'm gonna say.
You're more of like reality.
Sci-fi I is what I.
I subject you guys like youknow, like the star trek.
It could be, like that's real.
We could see the star trekhappening.
(11:21):
I think tom and I are more onthe yeah, we believe that kind.
Think Tom and I are more on theyeah, we believe that kind of
stuff.
But we are more like themythological stuff.
So then like everything is how,like Lou said before, like it's
that connection you know whatI'm saying that everybody has,
so that then when you get anorgan from somebody and you do
(11:49):
like you just said, like withthat classical music, yeah, do
you get their sensitivitydepends.
It could just be certain traits,it may not be everything well,
no, no right, not everything,but I'm saying like instead of
like.
Instead of liking the classicalmusic, would you be more
sensitive?
You know what I'm saying?
Like instead of liking theclassical music, would you be
more sensitive?
You know what I'm saying, doyou think?
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Depends on the person right that would be crazy, was
that?
Person sensitive.
What were their traits?
What?
Was going on.
It's basically inheriting whatthey had Right, so it's a piece
of them.
You know, yeah, it's helpingyou live and it's healthy and so
all that, but at the same time,you're also getting memories
from that person and it's onlygoing to be certain ones.
I'm sure it wouldn't be all ofthem of course.
(12:29):
I imagine, but it's amazing,it's amazing.
We were talking about thespiritual part of it.
Right In this view.
When a transplant happens, it'snot just a physical merging but
a spiritual blending.
Recipient may feel different,not because of cells alone, but
because they are now living withpart of another person's soul
and energy.
Some people even hold ritualsor blessings to help welcome the
(12:54):
organ and harmonizespirituality with the donor's
essence.
There it is.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
There it is.
I see there might be a littlebit of that in there too, yeah.
Mysticism, yeah In there.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
You know, yeah, because I mean, dude, listen, I
believe, like when, just alone,not even with the transplant I
believe that, like just thethree of us doing the show how
long as long as we've been doingit, that we have picked up
traits, things from each otheryou know whether we say
something real quick, they knowthat like, oh shit, that's
(13:25):
something Kenny would say.
Oh, tom said that, yo, freakingLou, yo, he did that shit the
other day.
I can't believe.
I just did it again.
Like it's, it's that, so it'sgot to be a hundredfold.
You know what I'm saying whenyou do get a transplant, because
you do, you get a good person,and then that's the toss of the
dice, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's the toss of the dice.
That's why they should have agood personality profile with
the organ.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
They should screen it .
They should absolutely do that.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So they do.
You do, like I said so when mysister donating the kidney
Really, right, you know you haveto go through the whole thing.
So you have to change the wayyou eat.
You know you have to be acertain kind of healthy for a
certain amount of time beforeyou are allowed to donate
whatever you know, of course, ifyou die, you know before you,
you know whatever, they stillhave to test it out to see if
(14:15):
it's a good match for whomeverand make sure you know they
still, you still fill out thepaperwork and whatnot.
I'm sure there's a lot of it,yeah, and now, because there's
living donors.
So kidney is a living donor,right, you know what I mean.
And, like I said, you knowthose.
You do have to go through somekind of questionnaire.
You have to do therapy session.
(14:36):
You have to go talk to theshrink and stuff to make sure
that you're a sound bind to.
You know you're giving up apart of your body.
You know you're giving up alittle bit of something of you,
right.
So that, yeah, man, right, butthe people don't read it.
So if I'm the one, you know,god forbid that I needed an
organ.
I don't know who it is I'mgetting it from, unless, like I
(14:56):
said, it's a living donor, right, right, right.
And so you never know you, younever know who you're going to
get it from and all of a sudden,after you get it, you wake up
and you're just like, like yousaid, have a different accent.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You know what I'm saying.
You actually like people nowwhen you didn't before.
Right, you know, you actuallyare just like, yeah, you know
what the world is great.
You know what I'm saying.
Meanwhile, all you could turnaround because, like I said
before, you know, I've heardread stories where people had
had a serious brain trauma, yeah, and they went from being a
(15:28):
nice guy to you know, and takingcare of the family and whatnot,
to now it's like yo, he's awomanizer and you know he's an
alcoholic now and he's alwaysout partying or just mean
criminal kind of guy and whatnot.
We wound up getting that hard,yeah, and then you went and
that's then you, you know, thereyou go.
You see what I'm saying.
(15:48):
Yeah, no, hit the button, youfall to the hole, not you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
What kind of person do they have?
Do they have right now?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Something's going to lead through there somehow.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Maybe not through this, somehow, maybe not, you
know, maybe it doesn't happen toeverybody, mm-hmm.
Or maybe it's happening and youdon't know it's happening Right
to you.
People have it right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't know it's happeningto you, right, so you can't
identify it?
Mm-hmm, you know what I mean.
So it can be happening, truetrue, true.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But would it be enough that other people notice
that it's happening to you?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Possibility.
Maybe other people can see it,but you're not, and you need
someone to point that out to youonce in a while, or maybe
people know you were an assholebefore and they're not going to
tell you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You're being a nice guy now.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
They're just enjoying the moment.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right, so they're not going to tell you shit.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, dude, yeah, I think that would happen to me.
People wouldn't tell me nothing.
They would tell you shit, man,don't tell them.
Don't tell them he's a nice guy.
Now Don't say none of that.
No, that is freaking hilarious.
But I say like so now one ofthe other things they're saying,
part of what we were saying theenergy transfer and chakras.
So in Eastern spiritual systems, like the Chinese medicine, the
(17:00):
body has energy centers, thechakras, or the meridians, right
Major organs are tied toemotions Heart, love, courage,
joy.
The liver is anger andfrustration.
Okay, kidneys is fear andanxiety.
Wow, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Mm-hmm, yeah, so imagine that man.
It's amazing.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
So imagine that man.
Again, you're getting the liverand if you're getting that
person, some of their chakra itopens your mind up to like wow,
this goes deeper than just youknow You're actually energy is
being transferred and usedsomewhere else, mm-hmm, and that
person may experience somethingfrom you.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Vice versa, but if you ever needed anything like
that, you know.
Hopefully that person's a goodperson.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Because I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yes, they gave off that energy and that's who they
were.
It would be hard to believethat it wouldn't transfer over
somehow.
You know, in some way.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, no, I'm going to, wouldn't transfer over
somehow, you know, in some way.
Yeah, no, I'm gonna try to forkit, force my all my energy into
one of my organs and then I can, so I can be transferred into
another person.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, and we and live on, yeah, chucky yeah oh, dude,
that's like chucky yeah, ohyeah through transplant.
Yes, I'm just saying I believethat.
Yeah, but again, that's even aperfect example.
He was transferring his soul,his spirit, and he transferred
it into the doll and his evil iswhat that was and tried to
(18:30):
transfer it into the little boyyou know.
See, like here too.
So, going with the Chuckyreincarnation and soul contracts
In some new age andreincarnation philosophies,
people believe nothing happensby accident.
The donor and recipient mayhave a soul connection from a
past life.
Dude, that's like you turnaround and when you meet
(18:52):
somebody you're like, oh my God,I feel like I've known you for
years.
It was you, it was you.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You see what I'm saying.
It's super uncomfortable rightnow.
I'm just saying, I'm justsaying, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
See, just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
A transplant might be part of a soul contract, a
pre-life agreement between soulsto meet.
In this way, After receivingthe organ, the recipient may
experience memories, dreams ortraits tied to the donor's past
life experiences.
Okay, Like I said, you know,Just saying you know everything
has energy.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yes, sir, I don't even think people realize that
what we have is the older we get.
If we're smart enough and wiseenough, you start to notice
these things and realize youknow, oh man, I always saw that
energy on this bullshit.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Mm-hmm Doing this and Doing this.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But that's life, that's how you learn, but
hopefully you get to that pointwhere you know.
You know that You're in a goodplace.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, that's what they say Youth is wasted on the
young Right.
Of course you know what I meanBecause of had I known then what
I know now?
Forget about it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But this, forget about it.
Yeah, you know what I mean, butthis is, you know I I think
there is a connection in someway or another.
You know, do you ever hear of?
This is a little off thesubject, but so, supposedly, if
you pass, when you pass away,and you could either go up to
the light right, you're that wayor where you'll be recycled and
you'll come back again, okayand all that other stuff.
(20:22):
But if you turn around yes,I've heard this before and you
look at the universe and saytake me home.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You gotta say take me home, take me home.
You gotta say take me home yeah, or supposedly.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Supposedly Maybe, oh, maybe just, but it's real.
I'm not saying that at all,that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Because you're the one that told me about that.
Right, I'm just saying it'sjust a different theory.
I've never even thought howwould I know to turn around when
I was there.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
even possible.
No, get back to what we weretalking about.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But no.
So, but then now, with thatthough sorry because we were,
you know, saying that, but so wego by.
Of course, again, what we seein movies, when people turn
around, they're seeing wherethey just left from or where
they just came from.
So like, when you turn aroundyou see yourself on the
operating table or you seeyourself in the room or wherever
(21:11):
it was that you just died.
When it first happens, so nowas you so now?
so what you're saying is thatwhen you get into the light,
there's nothing else.
Now you're already in the light, right, if you turn back around
is where you'll see, evenbefore you go into the light.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh, okay, okay, before you go into the light.
Yeah, if you see the light, sayturn around, turn around.
Wow, dude, that's craziness,how could you know to do that?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yes, dude.
Or what if it conspiracy forthe devil?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh, take me home, here we go.
Like the claw was in a creepshow, something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, I mean I'm just talking, you know?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, I'm not, yeah, I'm just being.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
you know I'm playing the devil's apple.
Oh, taking my job, are we there?
But yeah, man you know theirbuddy.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But yeah, man, you know, and so again, then if
somebody passes and they turnaround, and go to how you're
saying that they go back towherever, beginning that we are.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You travel to wherever it in the universe you
come from.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Are they going to be able to go there?
Because now they are donors.
So when they die, the, so you,you hear what I'm saying, so you
think they lose a piece ofthemselves in some sense I don't
think so, I'll go with thattheory?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Because their spirit is going to what people believe
could be our universal origin?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I don't think so, though.
I said then what we said yeah,I don't know.
That's a good question.
I couldn't answer thatillogically and say how that
would or wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
That.
If so, when we said, oh sorry,my back, my neck and my back, so
we go by what is said by theEastern spiritual system, chakra
stuff.
If you donate the heart,there's love, courage and joy.
The liver is anger andfrustration, the kidneys is fear
and anxiety.
Right?
So then let's just say that youknow, somebody donated,
(23:05):
somebody knows what we just said, that if you go to the light,
or just before you get to thelight, you turn around and you
can go back to.
You know where we are in theuniverse.
But if they donated their heart.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
If they were in action, they lost the limb, but
that's what I'm saying.
But if they're dead, no, buthear me out.
Okay, in their life, right,they had an accident, they lost
a limb Right and then they died.
They would still be acceptedjust because they only had one
less limb?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
No, no, no, I'm saying that if, then if they,
whatever part of their body wasdonated, that then that person
that died, their spirit, wassupposed to go.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
If they're able to go to wherever, I don't think
there's like a restriction oranything like that.
I think you'll go regardless,but I don't know.
I couldn't answer Wherever itis that we go.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Because I mean, I'm just saying like a part of their
spiritual energy would staywith you that's all I can say if
they decided they were going togo back to their universal
birthplaces.
You know what I'm saying that?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
would be interesting that would be wild, that would
explain a lot of things becauseyou would come from different.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Everybody came from like a different universe, so
that boom when we turn aroundand we hear people that can tell
the future.
Yeah, is it that?
Not so much that they got atransplant, but, if you know,
did they hit their head?
You know what I mean, becauseyou look at, I mean like we know
, no, shaddam is, you know,foretelling the future and
whatnot.
(24:32):
And I've got this other charles, something like that.
You lost me there.
So I'm saying that people, ifyou get, have that spiritual
connection with somebody becauseof a transplant or because of
you know, let's say even a blood.
Yeah.
So then you know, you, you say,like a blood transfusion, right
, that you would get some ofwhat, like their energy, their
(24:54):
powers, as we're saying, couldbe, if that's how people are
able to foretell the future.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Did that make sense?
I guess you know, yeah, I guessAnything's possible, right?
Who knows Like when I go in?
You know we donate, peopledonate blood all the time, Right
?
So you don't hear about it thatmuch as far as blood is
concerned Because I don't evenknow.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
do they even know that it's happening to them?
I don't know.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
mean.
But I think the fact that Ithink it's a good thing and I
don't think it's a bad thing oranything it should be, you know,
had any type of demerit oranything like that, because you
know, you went to the afterlifewithout something in your body,
right?
No, I don't think it works likethat, but I understand what
you're saying.
Yeah, it's interesting, though,that how connected you are to
(25:39):
your body and how someone elsecan experience.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's wild yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Because, like you're saying so, like even here,
mediumship and channeling, somemediums and spiritual
sensitivities believe that thedonor's spirit may linger for a
time near the organ, especiallyif their death was sudden.
so then, if you got one, thatfrom somebody who was a medium-
(26:04):
yeah that, then you might havethat power too, yeah that's
pretty crazy man yeah, I wonderif that I'm saying so like now,
you know I would be able to tellthe future, not tell the future
, but you know, just because youknow, you got what's her name
the Long Island Medium.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like, you got that lady and youknow she donates blood, so now
(26:28):
her donating blood is now.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I think we would haveheard of that already.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
What's if a Jedi Does ?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
it have metachlorians in it, you get some little bit
of force.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But you might, you just like push a piece of paper?
Yeah, but you might.
Yeah, because you have someExactly.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It may not be Jedi Master, yeah, but you have
enough to be able to you know,to bring your cup across this
table.
What's if it's okay?
Oh, yeah, how old are we rightnow?
Oh well, yo, yo, yeah, that'sexactly how old we are.
Yeah, yeah, I like that one.
(27:07):
That was a good one, that is agood one.
But yeah, you know, it's withanything, especially now,
because you know we've had our,our spiritual conversations, if
you will, and you know justabout where life could be, where
we've come from.
You know we've had all thatRight Kind of combo.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We've been on the alien ride, exactly I mean we're
into all of that because we'reopen-minded to things and we're
not allowing ourselves to bejust tunnel vision.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Right, we're open to other things and that's why we
talk about the things we do,because it's interesting when
you hear something like this ispretty cool that this could
happen.
Yeah that could be true Someonecould transfer their energy
onto someone else, and thatwould be fantabulous.
But it may not happen all thetime.
I think it's just.
(27:55):
Maybe it only happens tocertain individuals, maybe the
individuals it happens tothey're more open to something
else.
I didn't think about that.
Right, a lot of people gettrampled so you don't hear a lot
of it.
You only hear from certain.
I'm sure if you research it'llbe a bunch, but not like yeah,
maybe people who are more open,their soul is more.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, that would be one to look up.
You know what I mean To to tohear more people who received
transplants and maybe eventalking to the families of the
donors to see if that you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I bet you they do it already.
I'm sure they do.
Yeah, that would be groovy.
They probably do, for sure, nodoubt about it, that would be
way groovy.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, cause I tell you what you know when you feel
that, like you said, that we do,like we've, you know, all just
spoken on, just as I said, beingin other people's presence and
you know them rubbing off on you.
I mean, bro, that's Talk aboutrubbing off on you.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You see it wasn't me Rubbing one out on you.
That's a different podcast.
That's a different podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
that's a different one that is a different one, oh
my god thanks for comingeveryone that's a good, no pun
intended that was good, tom.
That was good as you walkedaway with the pearl necklace.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You just fucking always have something to say.
At the end was good.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
That was good as you walked away with the pearl
necklace.
Oh man, oh, that's great.
That's not really what happened, people, I promise yeah, I
don't know if I'm gonna be ableto put this one on youtube-
people like it.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That is too funny stuff, man.
Yes, over yourself, man.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yes, there you go.
Exactly, yeah, but yeah, man,this is super interesting and it
is really cool, you know,because my next question would
be is it that you yourselfchange upon receiving right?
Go ahead.
I'm sorry, because you aregrateful for being able to live
(30:06):
again, because now you have ahealthy organ, so you need to
accept it Right.
So then, now you know what.
I lived a little bit on theedge.
I was a little bit like thisperson.
Now I've gotten this gift to beable to live longer, because
I've gotten this, Now me myself.
Is it really that it's memyself?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
well, they say that.
They said that's another case.
It could possibly be becausethe fact you know you're getting
something and it's a mentalthing right, you know they talk
about, so you're great.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean like oh okay, I thought you meant that it was
like a psychosomatic orsomething yeah, right, right,
yeah, yeah, exactly like.
They're like, oh, for instanceLike oh, I hear the like, but
with these stories that we'vebeen reading, though, these
people didn't know about theother people's- stuff, so I
don't know it's too coincidental.
I mean, maybe that also happens, though, you know, maybe
(30:59):
sometimes it's psychosomatic,you know where they're like.
Oh, I think I have somethingyou know, right yeah.
But, and it's nothing you know,Right.
But then for some where it'sunexplainable, it's like how did
you know?
They know that this personliked this?
You know type of food?
Or something that they didn'tlike before.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
They find out that the person they got the heart
donated from liked that type offood.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, they person they got the the heart donate
from like that type of food.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, they're like yeah, tofu, yeah, I didn't like
it now I do, but now again when,as we get older, yeah, our our,
our, our taste buds change.
Right, there are things that welike now that we didn't like
before.
You know right, so that then,like you said, like we've been
saying now, is it justpsychosomatic that we are now
(31:47):
liking these things.
You know what I mean?
Is it now just again us beinggrateful for getting this
donation, that now we just arethankful and nice to people?
You?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
know what I'm saying.
I guess something would changewith you.
I would imagine it would, andhopefully, when you get it you
go through the transformation,because I heard it's not that
easy.
Just because you get onedoesn't mean you're gonna
survive it either right, yeahit's.
It's a hard thing to go through, so I think all of that you
need to have a positive mind,regardless, as best as you could
to get through that I wouldimagine, you know, and people
(32:21):
around you of course, right,yeah, right to support yeah
absolutely.
Yeah, it's necessary, you know,and people around you, of course
.
Right Right the support.
Yeah, absolutely it's necessary.
Yeah, I would imagine it's avery traumatic experience in
some way or another.
Yeah, it is, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yep, because you do feel it Emotionally too.
Yeah, like I said, because mysister donating the kidney, you
know you end up.
You know you feel some kind ofway.
It's not so much that you feelempty, but you just do feel
different.
You know what I mean.
Like huh, you or your sister,my sister, I'm saying you know,
like, you know she would feel,you know she felt, you know a
(32:56):
little bit different.
You know, like now it's thewhole thing.
You know I'm helping somebodyelse live.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm helping somebody else.
I've given.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
She recognized that that's a good thing, and that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So, like you know, it's that whole, it's just all
of that.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You know what I mean.
That's called maturity, right?
I mean that's yeah, listen,she's always been more mature
than me.
Well, I, it's great, yeah, nolisten, my sister is amazing.
You know what I'm saying?
Anybody does it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
that's awesome yeah you know, and she, like I said
for her to turn around, I waslike you're better than me, you
know, whatever, not you know,just like how I was.
Yeah, no, no, you know, but youknow it is, it's those things,
it's that emotion, even too,it's that emotion that you had
just before you passed, thatmight still be in that organ.
(33:45):
You know what I mean.
Anything, right, yeah, I mean,like I said, if you're in a
traumatic accident and you'repassing, it's that last moment,
it's like you know what I meanand it's over.
You know what I mean thatthat's now stuck in your body.
That's why they say like ghosts, you know, because ghosts don't
know that they're gone, stuckin your body.
That's why they say like ghosts, you know, because ghosts don't
know that they're gone RightBecause the energy lingers.
Because the energy lingers.
(34:06):
You know what I'm saying.
They didn't know that they hadpassed on, because it happened
Like it was just that supershocking, like no, no, they're
just stuck in that moment,exactly so now it's kind of
strange either you know, butthen it's yeah, exactly and that
, but then that's the differentkinds of you know.
(34:26):
Well, I watch all those ghostshows too, and it's the
different kinds of ghosts thatthey say, yeah, there's
conscious ones, right ones thatare stuck in a loop.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, it's not even like a, it's just like a memory
is like right.
It's like it's not even like aghost, it's like a time, like
it's like a time loop.
Yeah, there's like like liketime has crossed Right, like
they say time doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yes, allegedly, you know Right.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
So maybe it's a glitch in the matrix you know,
there you go.
You know what I mean.
It's a past recording gettingRight yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Pre-play again, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
When you used to record videos and you had the
VHS tape.
They would still sometimes belike.
It would get that little static.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
They say it's like stored energy in the house.
Actually, when that happens,what happens Like ghosts.
Like the whole metaphysicaltheory is that it's not actually
the ghost, it's just energyfrom like.
It's like that like someonewalked in the hall the same way
(35:28):
every day for like 10 years, 20years of being in the house,
that that stored energy and thatit's like meant like it has,
like the house has like memory,right like there's energy in the
house from that person.
It's not even a ghost thosefootsteps, it's just like yeah,
fucking, energy stuck in thehouse, which is weird fucking's
not even a ghost as footsteps.
It's just like, yeah, fucking,energy stuck right house, right,
weird, fucking crazy, not evena ghost yeah, you're hearing
(35:48):
footsteps.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm out I hear footsteps.
Yeah, I'm fucked up, rightmyself do you have a good night?
Yeah, and that, and so again,um boom, I give you like so now,
because you said that and methinking now with this, so at
work today.
As a matter of fact, ithappened today the AC isn't
working properly at work.
(36:09):
Okay, yeah, and I'm standing inbetween the two machines I work
on and I'm talking to one of mystaff and I was like yo, you
smell that.
She looks at me like what, likeyou don't smell that.
She says no, what Smell likecigarettes.
Somebody was smoking.
It smelled like it smelled it.
It smelled like somebody wassmoking and had come in and they
had like they weren't smokingand you could smell the nicotine
(36:33):
.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Oh, you mean when someone comes in?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
yeah, outside, especially when it's raining,
yeah, and it was raining today,bro, it was raining today and
this and the girl she.
I said it was raining today andthe girl I was like you know
what's up.
She goes.
No, and she takes two stepsback from me and you know her.
I say her name and she'slooking at me like I don't know
what you're talking about.
I was like yo, and it's chillyover here, you feel the AC.
She's like it is hot.
What are you talking about?
I'm like nobody.
(37:00):
So with that, that's definitelyRight.
So now organ smoker.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, well, yeah, you would obviously have to get a
healthy organ.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Well, yeah, I'm just saying but if they were around
somebody that smoked, or if theywere ex-smokers, you know what
I mean?
That goes back to the cravings.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, but if it's already, oh, I see, if they were
ex-smokers, that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Right, Then you know, the organ would still be
healthy enough for you to get it, especially if they just died.
That's like you know, and Iforgot you could even get lungs
and stuff like that too.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah right, that was in one of our other stories.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I didn't even do that , and that's I'm telling you,
man Lou, I believe you are 100%right.
You know I'm saying everythingis connected you know we I'll
make the the movie analogy youknow the avatar, you know, so
you have avatar and they wereall connected to awa.
You know, I mean, and it theyhad it that it was living in
(37:52):
that tree, in the first oneright, you know I'm saying, and
the other one, the water one.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I didn't get to see that.
Oh sorry you got.
I don't spoiler for everybody,but you can tell me I don't care
, all right well, and.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
But you can tell me I don't care.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, well, and, and, but probably if I watch it
, but I'm going to watch itagain yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
The water one.
You know it was underwater.
You know what I mean.
They were connecting with allthe fish and well, I mean that
that it was it wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
They had gills and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Gills and stuff like that.
Yeah, but it was there was likeanother species of people yes,
another avatar that were livingin the water.
It's not like a plant.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
A different planet or same planet, no same planet.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's like seaweed, I guess.
Whatever the trees that wouldgrow under in the water, that's
what they were connecting to Onland, it was the tree Right.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And in the water it was like that seaweed kind of
stuff.
Whatever grows on the ground.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, and come to that.
It was all connected, right.
Like you see, it was just likethe tree the roots were down in
the water, kind of thing it was.
You know it's all oh cool.
But going back to what you'resaying, that it is, I do believe
that we are all connected insome way, shape or form.
You know, those of us who arecloser to each other is because
we have a better connection.
You know whether that we kneweach other from before, whether
(39:15):
we drank out of the same pool ofwater, whatever the case may be
, it was that we're allconnected.
Why?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
would I drink out?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
of the same pool of water.
Because back in the day when wedidn't have to dig out from the
well and get the whatever youknow, we were oh, oh, oh and
knocking people out with thebucket.
Okay.
We're going to go way, way backto the early days, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Oh yeah, that works, yeah yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I just think it's just the fact that they say
you've got to be careful.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
you put out into the universe Definitely, so what you
say can actually come back andhurt you.
There's so much stuff out there, so many different things that
people talk about.
A lot makes sense.
Some of it is just you knowlike what?
Really yeah, which is coolreally yeah, which is cool.
That's why I say, if you'reopen minded and you talk about
(40:07):
these things and you look atthem, heck.
You know.
My wife thinks I'm the biggestgeek there is.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I got.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
National Geographic on.
I'm watching the thing with thepyramids, anything that's you
know, travel channel, I'vewatched the ghost hunters, the
ghost hunters.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
yeah, that's what I'm saying, that's what we're about
.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
That's what we do.
We're nerdy.
Yeah, we like everything fromalmost any place, pretty much.
I mean.
I'm sure there's a lot morethat we don't.
Yeah, yeah, we haven't but-.
It was time.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
But it is man.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I you know like, listen, sorry.
Psychologically influenced.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Knowing details about the donor might create
subconscious associationsleading recipients to receive
changes in themselves.
In other words, that's whatwe're saying yeah, like you know
right Cellular memory theory.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Some researchers speculate the cells,
particularly in organs like theheart, may store certain
biochemical imprints that couldinfluence emotions or behaviors.
However, this is lightly highlycontroversial and not widely
accepted in the mainstreamscience.
Of course it's not.
Of course, medication andtrauma effects the physical and
emotional impact of saving atransplant, along with strong
(41:16):
immunosuppressive drugs, canlead to psychological changes
that might feel like newpersonality traits.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
That's freaking nuts.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying it's amazing how that
can just go to someone else andthey can experience that Mm-hmm.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, that's like hitting thelottery man.
You better hope you're gettingsomething good.
They do it with the bone marrowtoo.
I wonder, like you were sayingearlier, I wonder with the bow
marrow too.
I wonder, like you were sayingearlier, I wonder with the bow
marrow, if that has anything todo with it too.
(41:45):
Probably not, because you wouldhave heard about that already.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, I don't know I mean think about it how many
people think that they might becrazy when they say that all of
a sudden I've got these urges?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
or these thoughts.
I play classical piano.
All of a sudden, I have no ideahow that happens.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
That would be different, different like doing
the classical piano well, solike doing another language.
Yeah, like that would be thingsthat people would want to
celebrate and or say becausethey got that, you know, because
of having a transplant orwhatever.
But the ones who turn aroundlike yo, I eat broccoli now, or
you know, I turn around and Ican, you know, I drive a little
bit faster, I feel like I'm moreenergy or I quit smoking, like
(42:20):
those are things that peoplearen't gonna like, oh, oh yeah.
Hey, doc, this is what happened.
Let's put it in the you knowmedical journal.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Nobody's going to give a shit, not everybody's
appreciative of it, of it likethat Right.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, exactly, it is like, yeah, listen, I'm just
living another day and it'swhatever you know.
But again, these are thingsthat we've heard, seen spoken on
People.
Those are the experiences thatpeople have had, being able to
do all that stuff, and then youhave those who think coincidence
(42:51):
, right, confirmation bias.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Recipients may naturally develop new tastes and
behaviors over time.
When they learn about theirdonor, they might selectively
connect these changes to thetransplant.
In other words, it's just, it'sby accident, right, it doesn't
mean anything.
Yeah, it just happens to beyeah attitude, but when it's
strong, like the stories we readearlier.
That's the fascinating part.
(43:17):
We're not just talking aboutjust basic little things, you
know they're talking about okay,wait a minute, this happened
and that happened.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Nah, yeah, no it just doesn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, yeah no like that, I couldn't believe it
right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mwith you.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
That's crazy, yeah, I mean shit, like we've turned
around and said so many timesbefore.
You know, just be kind toeverybody, yeah, because you
never know.
You know what I mean.
You, you get a transplant, youtransplant, you'll need a
transplant.
You gotta be kind to peoplebecause, again, the universe, I
think that we're all, just, youknow, linked, we're linked in.
(43:53):
We're space dust, we're allspace dust, yeah we're linked in
space dust.
We are space dust that beingsaid, so with that, appreciate
everybody being here with us.
Thank you for listening,gentlemen, appreciate y
appreciate everybody being herewith us.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Thank you for listening.
Gentlemen, appreciate y'allbeing here.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Thank you very much, as always.
As always With that love, peaceand air grease live long and
prosper.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Go vegan.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Holla.
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What's going on, gentlemen?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, we're doing good.
You know it's a good night.
We had cool.
We're having a good time, asalways.
You know, we had a good laughright before we Started the
episode.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, that was funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me,excuse me, sorry about that.
That's good stuff.
Yo, that is too funny, man, wehad a good laugh right before we
started the episode.
Yeah, yeah excuse me, excuse me, sorry about that.
That's good stuff.
Yo, that is too funny, man.
Oh yeah, that's good.
I'm still in good moods.
It's good spirits, because thisis some craziness now.
Yeah, like some bugged outcrazy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I thought you guys would like this topic because it
was.
I found it interesting to saythe least right Interesting to
say the least Right that aperson would get experiences or
start taking up differenthobbies or something to that
effect, because they receivedsomebody's organ, whatever it
might be.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So the episode today is about, just to make sure we
know the theory that if you gotsomeone else's organ donated to
you, that you would get theirmemories memories and like
traits and things about yeah,yeah, right, certain that they
like.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, that's wild, yeah, that's wild, that's
straight out of science fiction.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know what I mean, like that stuff that you've
only, we've only heard on TVmovies or you know, just stories
, books or whatever.
So that's just even thinkingabout it and, like I was telling
you guys before, I didn't eventhink about asking my sister or
my, my dad, because my sisterdonated a kidney to to him,
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right, and so that then I'mwondering if he, you know, if,
if he did anything or hadanything that he felt changed,
because so he had a livertransplant, right, and he's had
a kidney transplant, so ofcourse the liver was, you know,
was a different kind of donation, and then the kidney from my
sister.
So I never even thought to askhim if he even had any thoughts
or feelings or anythingdifferent.
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He felt different when he'dreceived, yeah, like afterwards,
how did he feel when he had,with thought to ask him if he
even had any thoughts orfeelings or anything different.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He felt different when he'd received it.
Yeah, Like afterwards.
How did he feel when he had hisnew?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
kid.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
You know, did they have any experiences or anything
like that?
Yeah, I'm going to say probablynot as much.
Only because it's in the family.
You're already part of oneanother.
Right, that's your offspring,that's your daughter.
She's giving you something.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, he was my mom since I was 15 and I'm 53 now,
so that's how many years youknow what.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So again I said yeah, that's why.
So you know, it was still my.
My sister was still mid-teens,if he does.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
If he did, so I'm not , yeah, I wonder, you should ask
him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
There's some interesting stories of people
who've had those kind ofexperiences Mm-hmm Because stuff
.
You know Now what was the stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, I'll send it to you right now.
Then let's see.
It says here there have beenseveral intriguing cases with
organ transplant recipientsclaimed to have experienced
personality changes, new habitsor even memories that seem to
align with their donor's life.
Will these cases or anecdotal?
They continue to discussion ofa possibility of cellular memory
(03:24):
.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Here are some of the most well-known cases Claire
Sylvia new craving andpersonality traits.
Claire Sylvia's heart-lungtransplant recipient, wrote A
Change of Heart 1997, where shedescribed craving beer, green
peppers and chicken nuggets foodshe'd never liked before.
Whoa.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
See, that's crazy.
So she basically got a hearttransplant and now she had all
these foods for beer and chickennuggets.
And like yeah, that's wow,green peppers.
So those are things that thatperson that she got it from
probably yeah, the guy who likedit.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's what it says.
Next, he was an 18-year-oldyoung man Love these foods.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, the guy who that's what it says.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Next, he was an 18-year-old young man Love these
foods.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, that sounds like an 18-year-old Dude yeah, I
know I love chicken nuggets.
That's guy food.
Yeah, I want some chickennuggets.
Yeah, and she also reportedfeeling more masculine and
outgoing after the transplant.
So you know, yeah, that'sserious.
What about?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
this one, this one is the one.
I heard that.
I thought was interestingEight-year-old girl.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And her donor's murder.
An eight-year-old girl receiveda heart transplant having
nightmares or even beingmurdered.
She described it so vivid thatdoctor's parents informed the
police.
The investigation led tocapture of the donor's actual
murderer.
Confirming details the girl hadnever known before.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Whoa yeah, you see, bro, that's nuts.
Well, see, now, I know we'retalking about this, but I get it
.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
See, this is the thing where, like, we're more
connected than we think.
What is reality and what is not.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But see, now you're saying that because that's where
I was going to go with it.
So that now Makes you questionreality yeah.
What is real Like.
Is it I need more?
Did you really?
So?
If we're in the matrix, did youreally give that person the
transplant?
You know what I mean?
And now, if we're in the matrixand we're all, because it's all
in the code.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh, you're thinking like the simulation, yeah.
So then, if it's all on codeyou know what I'm saying, I just
took some of my code and put iton yours.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm just saying Same idea.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I know that was a little bit out there for you.
Like, over like the course oflike 10 years, you actually turn
into that person Like fullyRight, Dude.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
That would be so insane, bro Like you slowly have
a transition period like bothof them.
But then that's the other thingtoo.
So you've heard, when peopleget hit in the head really hard
or that they have some kind ofbrain trauma, that their
personalities change or theybecome really fucking smart.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
There was a case where a man what happened?
He wound up becoming like amathematician or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he neverknew math, he hated it Right,
and now he's a freaking genius.
Now he's like this wizard.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, I know we're getting off topic here, but you
know, what is the funniest Isthe ones, the people that have
like.
The funniest is the ones thepeople that have like they have
like a traumatic injury or likethey or like they could have a
cancer.
Whatever it is they.
They have a brain.
Something happened with braininjury and now they have.
They have an accent fromanother country like a woman had
like a chinese accent?
she's no, but she's originallyfrom like england, and she's
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like she's like that peoplethink I speak a china east, but
like that's how she talks yeahand like there was another lady
who's like speaking with aFrench.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I still but she's like they showed a video of her
and she's like from England shutup, because I think they took
this in like England yeah, bro,that's insane.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I can't wait till I find out.
I don't want this to happen toanybody but you know, get that
case where someone's talking tome from Brooklyn.
They've been in Brooklyn theirlife and they're from like
Finland.
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Exactly, well, you know.
But or Jersey, well, so thatthen I wonder.
So we don't have that in ourstuff, but I'm wondering if that
would be something that wouldhappen from an organ transplant.
You know what I'm saying Pickup another accent, Like you said
maybe not immediately.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
They say foods.
They say Right, if you're doingthe four or like mannerisms,
right, you could pick up somemannerisms Maybe.
They said music.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, right, right, said that music that you turn
around.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They never listen to certain music.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's what I'm saying, man.
It shows you how connected youare to your body.
You don't even realize it.
Like what's if I got?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
like a heart transplant and the person was
like Jamaican.
And like I started doing, likewhen people and every time
someone says something stupid, Igo, I do something like that,
you know.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Oh my God, yeah, man.
But you know what I mean,because that's a yeah, yeah, oh
my god, yeah, man.
But it's the truth.
But see, and I mean, yeah, it'sstill the same thing to me, but
you know, with your vehicles orpeople, so, like you say like
they say you know because I ridemotorcycles, so don't, if
there's a somebody crashes amotorcycle, don't buy the
crashed motorcycle like don'trebuild it, you shouldn't.
(08:24):
You know what I'm saying.
But same thing with a car.
You don't buy a car thatsomebody died in because you
know it's like Christine.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Remember that movie, Christine.
Somebody died in.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, you ever see that.
You seen the horror movie,christine.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, with the car.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, of course, see that.
Yeah, so that then think aboutit, bro.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I mean, is that if the car is haunted yeah, you
know they should they shouldinform you and be like we're
giving.
We, we have a kidney for you,we have a heart for you.
We found a, but the person wasmurdered right?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
well, that's what they'll be like but that's the
same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
When lou just read the eight-year-old girl giving
details to you know, saying likethat's gotta be insane, bro.
That means I would rather die.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, I would rather kill it off than get your heart
but what if it was from a serialkiller?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
you were getting a serial killer's organs.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I would be a good movie.
I think they've done somethinglike that.
Really, I don't know if theydid that, that movie.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I don't remember the name of it so I'm not even going
to make believe.
Like I remember, I don'tremember.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But yeah, dude, that would be sick.
So now do you turn around?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
right.
And now do you keep an eye onthat person?
Because now you, as theauthorities or the doctor or
family member, you know.
Well, you don't.
They don't tell you who it isthat you're getting the, the
organs from Right.
They just tell you you have towrite a letter to the family.
You know what I'm saying.
So that then you know,depending on who it is, or
whatever, that then you know.
You don't want to know who itis, you're just saying thank you
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for it and I appreciate youknow the love.
So if you, yes, turn around andcould get traits from somebody
because of their, I totally seeit happening.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, it makes sense.
Mm-hmm, listen, what do youcall it?
I don't know.
So, jamie Sherman, right, thiskid wound up liking from a
transplant from a young boy wholoved classical music.
After the transplant, jamie hadnever enjoyed classical people
ever and then wound up liking itand he met his parents and they
told him he was, he was gettinginto classical music, you see
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there you go when you see, thisis not the thing.
It's not that I don't believethis is happening.
The thing is is that when itdoes happen, people don't
believe it.
I'm thinking how do you believethat it totally makes sense?
You know this energy there.
It's something that's fromsomebody else that they were
carrying with them for a longtime makes you really like, like
(10:56):
, what is, like I said, likewhat is reality, like what are
we?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
you know?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
yeah like well, I mean, think about it, bro, like
stuff like that, like yes rightbut now so you and I a little
bit more sci-fi geeks with someof the stuff right and listen to
what I'm saying, that's whatI'm gonna say.
You're more of like reality.
Sci-fi I is what I.
I subject you guys like youknow, like the star trek.
It could be, like that's real.
We could see the star trekhappening.
(11:21):
I think tom and I are more onthe yeah, we believe that kind.
Think Tom and I are more on theyeah, we believe that kind of
stuff.
But we are more like themythological stuff.
So then like everything is how,like Lou said before, like it's
that connection you know whatI'm saying that everybody has,
so that then when you get anorgan from somebody and you do
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like you just said, like withthat classical music, yeah, do
you get their sensitivitydepends.
It could just be certain traits,it may not be everything well,
no, no right, not everything,but I'm saying like instead of
like.
Instead of liking the classicalmusic, would you be more
sensitive?
You know what I'm saying?
Like instead of liking theclassical music, would you be
more sensitive?
You know what I'm saying, doyou think?
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Depends on the person right that would be crazy, was
that?
Person sensitive.
What were their traits?
What?
Was going on.
It's basically inheriting whatthey had Right, so it's a piece
of them.
You know, yeah, it's helpingyou live and it's healthy and so
all that, but at the same time,you're also getting memories
from that person and it's onlygoing to be certain ones.
I'm sure it wouldn't be all ofthem of course.
(12:29):
I imagine, but it's amazing,it's amazing.
We were talking about thespiritual part of it.
Right In this view.
When a transplant happens, it'snot just a physical merging but
a spiritual blending.
Recipient may feel different,not because of cells alone, but
because they are now living withpart of another person's soul
and energy.
Some people even hold ritualsor blessings to help welcome the
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organ and harmonizespirituality with the donor's
essence.
There it is.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
There it is.
I see there might be a littlebit of that in there too, yeah.
Mysticism, yeah In there.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
You know, yeah, because I mean, dude, listen, I
believe, like when, just alone,not even with the transplant I
believe that, like just thethree of us doing the show how
long as long as we've been doingit, that we have picked up
traits, things from each otheryou know whether we say
something real quick, they knowthat like, oh shit, that's
(13:25):
something Kenny would say.
Oh, tom said that, yo, freakingLou, yo, he did that shit the
other day.
I can't believe.
I just did it again.
Like it's, it's that, so it'sgot to be a hundredfold.
You know what I'm saying whenyou do get a transplant, because
you do, you get a good person,and then that's the toss of the
dice, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's the toss of the dice.
That's why they should have agood personality profile with
the organ.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
They should screen it .
They should absolutely do that.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So they do.
You do, like I said so when mysister donating the kidney
Really, right, you know you haveto go through the whole thing.
So you have to change the wayyou eat.
You know you have to be acertain kind of healthy for a
certain amount of time beforeyou are allowed to donate
whatever you know, of course, ifyou die, you know before you,
you know whatever, they stillhave to test it out to see if
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it's a good match for whomeverand make sure you know they
still, you still fill out thepaperwork and whatnot.
I'm sure there's a lot of it,yeah, and now, because there's
living donors.
So kidney is a living donor,right, you know what I mean.
And, like I said, you knowthose.
You do have to go through somekind of questionnaire.
You have to do therapy session.
(14:36):
You have to go talk to theshrink and stuff to make sure
that you're a sound bind to.
You know you're giving up apart of your body.
You know you're giving up alittle bit of something of you,
right.
So that, yeah, man, right, butthe people don't read it.
So if I'm the one, you know,god forbid that I needed an
organ.
I don't know who it is I'mgetting it from, unless, like I
(14:56):
said, it's a living donor, right, right, right.
And so you never know you, younever know who you're going to
get it from and all of a sudden,after you get it, you wake up
and you're just like, like yousaid, have a different accent.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You know what I'm saying.
You actually like people nowwhen you didn't before.
Right, you know, you actuallyare just like, yeah, you know
what the world is great.
You know what I'm saying.
Meanwhile, all you could turnaround because, like I said
before, you know, I've heardread stories where people had
had a serious brain trauma, yeah, and they went from being a
(15:28):
nice guy to you know, and takingcare of the family and whatnot,
to now it's like yo, he's awomanizer and you know he's an
alcoholic now and he's alwaysout partying or just mean
criminal kind of guy and whatnot.
We wound up getting that hard,yeah, and then you went and
that's then you, you know, thereyou go.
You see what I'm saying.
(15:48):
Yeah, no, hit the button, youfall to the hole, not you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
What kind of person do they have?
Do they have right now?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Something's going to lead through there somehow.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Maybe not through this, somehow, maybe not, you
know, maybe it doesn't happen toeverybody, mm-hmm.
Or maybe it's happening and youdon't know it's happening Right
to you.
People have it right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't know it's happeningto you, right, so you can't
identify it?
Mm-hmm, you know what I mean.
So it can be happening, truetrue, true.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But would it be enough that other people notice
that it's happening to you?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Possibility.
Maybe other people can see it,but you're not, and you need
someone to point that out to youonce in a while, or maybe
people know you were an assholebefore and they're not going to
tell you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You're being a nice guy now.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
They're just enjoying the moment.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Right, so they're not going to tell you shit.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, dude, yeah, I think that would happen to me.
People wouldn't tell me nothing.
They would tell you shit, man,don't tell them.
Don't tell them he's a nice guy.
Now Don't say none of that.
No, that is freaking hilarious.
But I say like so now one ofthe other things they're saying,
part of what we were saying theenergy transfer and chakras.
So in Eastern spiritual systems, like the Chinese medicine, the
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body has energy centers, thechakras, or the meridians, right
Major organs are tied toemotions Heart, love, courage,
joy.
The liver is anger andfrustration.
Okay, kidneys is fear andanxiety.
Wow, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Mm-hmm, yeah, so imagine that man.
It's amazing.
Mm-hmm, yeah.
So imagine that man.
Again, you're getting the liverand if you're getting that
person, some of their chakra itopens your mind up to like wow,
this goes deeper than just youknow You're actually energy is
being transferred and usedsomewhere else, mm-hmm, and that
person may experience somethingfrom you.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Vice versa, but if you ever needed anything like
that, you know.
Hopefully that person's a goodperson.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Because I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yes, they gave off that energy and that's who they
were.
It would be hard to believethat it wouldn't transfer over
somehow.
You know, in some way.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, no, I'm going to, wouldn't transfer over
somehow, you know, in some way.
Yeah, no, I'm gonna try to forkit, force my all my energy into
one of my organs and then I can, so I can be transferred into
another person.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, and we and live on, yeah, chucky yeah oh, dude,
that's like chucky yeah, ohyeah through transplant.
Yes, I'm just saying I believethat.
Yeah, but again, that's even aperfect example.
He was transferring his soul,his spirit, and he transferred
it into the doll and his evil iswhat that was and tried to
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transfer it into the little boyyou know.
See, like here too.
So, going with the Chuckyreincarnation and soul contracts
In some new age andreincarnation philosophies,
people believe nothing happensby accident.
The donor and recipient mayhave a soul connection from a
past life.
Dude, that's like you turnaround and when you meet
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somebody you're like, oh my God,I feel like I've known you for
years.
It was you, it was you.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You see what I'm saying.
It's super uncomfortable rightnow.
I'm just saying, I'm justsaying, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
See, just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
A transplant might be part of a soul contract, a
pre-life agreement between soulsto meet.
In this way, After receivingthe organ, the recipient may
experience memories, dreams ortraits tied to the donor's past
life experiences.
Okay, Like I said, you know,Just saying you know everything
has energy.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yes, sir, I don't even think people realize that
what we have is the older we get.
If we're smart enough and wiseenough, you start to notice
these things and realize youknow, oh man, I always saw that
energy on this bullshit.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Mm-hmm Doing this and Doing this.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But that's life, that's how you learn, but
hopefully you get to that pointwhere you know.
You know that You're in a goodplace.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Well, that's what they say Youth is wasted on the
young Right.
Of course you know what I meanBecause of had I known then what
I know now?
Forget about it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But this, forget about it.
Yeah, you know what I mean, butthis is, you know I I think
there is a connection in someway or another.
You know, do you ever hear of?
This is a little off thesubject, but so, supposedly, if
you pass, when you pass away,and you could either go up to
the light right, you're that wayor where you'll be recycled and
you'll come back again, okayand all that other stuff.
(20:22):
But if you turn around yes,I've heard this before and you
look at the universe and saytake me home.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You gotta say take me home, take me home.
You gotta say take me home yeah, or supposedly.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Supposedly Maybe, oh, maybe just, but it's real.
I'm not saying that at all,that's right.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Because you're the one that told me about that.
Right, I'm just saying it'sjust a different theory.
I've never even thought howwould I know to turn around when
I was there.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
even possible.
No, get back to what we weretalking about.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But no.
So, but then now, with thatthough sorry because we were,
you know, saying that, but so wego by.
Of course, again, what we seein movies, when people turn
around, they're seeing wherethey just left from or where
they just came from.
So like, when you turn aroundyou see yourself on the
operating table or you seeyourself in the room or wherever
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it was that you just died.
When it first happens, so nowas you so now?
so what you're saying is thatwhen you get into the light,
there's nothing else.
Now you're already in the light, right, if you turn back around
is where you'll see, evenbefore you go into the light.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh, okay, okay, before you go into the light.
Yeah, if you see the light, sayturn around, turn around.
Wow, dude, that's craziness,how could you know to do that?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yes, dude.
Or what if it conspiracy forthe devil?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Oh, take me home, here we go.
Like the claw was in a creepshow, something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, I mean I'm just talking, you know?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, I'm not, yeah, I'm just being.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
you know I'm playing the devil's apple.
Oh, taking my job, are we there?
But yeah, man you know theirbuddy.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
But yeah, man, you know, and so again, then if
somebody passes and they turnaround, and go to how you're
saying that they go back towherever, beginning that we are.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You travel to wherever it in the universe you
come from.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Are they going to be able to go there?
Because now they are donors.
So when they die, the, so you,you hear what I'm saying, so you
think they lose a piece ofthemselves in some sense I don't
think so, I'll go with thattheory?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Because their spirit is going to what people believe
could be our universal origin?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I don't think so, though.
I said then what we said yeah,I don't know.
That's a good question.
I couldn't answer thatillogically and say how that
would or wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
That.
If so, when we said, oh sorry,my back, my neck and my back, so
we go by what is said by theEastern spiritual system, chakra
stuff.
If you donate the heart,there's love, courage and joy.
The liver is anger andfrustration, the kidneys is fear
and anxiety.
Right?
So then let's just say that youknow, somebody donated,
(23:05):
somebody knows what we just said, that if you go to the light,
or just before you get to thelight, you turn around and you
can go back to.
You know where we are in theuniverse.
But if they donated their heart.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
If they were in action, they lost the limb, but
that's what I'm saying.
But if they're dead, no, buthear me out.
Okay, in their life, right,they had an accident, they lost
a limb Right and then they died.
They would still be acceptedjust because they only had one
less limb?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
No, no, no, I'm saying that if, then if they,
whatever part of their body wasdonated, that then that person
that died, their spirit, wassupposed to go.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
If they're able to go to wherever, I don't think
there's like a restriction oranything like that.
I think you'll go regardless,but I don't know.
I couldn't answer Wherever itis that we go.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Because I mean, I'm just saying like a part of their
spiritual energy would staywith you that's all I can say if
they decided they were going togo back to their universal
birthplaces.
You know what I'm saying that?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
would be interesting that would be wild, that would
explain a lot of things becauseyou would come from different.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Everybody came from like a different universe, so
that boom when we turn aroundand we hear people that can tell
the future.
Yeah, is it that?
Not so much that they got atransplant, but, if you know,
did they hit their head?
You know what I mean, becauseyou look at, I mean like we know
, no, shaddam is, you know,foretelling the future and
whatnot.
(24:32):
And I've got this other charles, something like that.
You lost me there.
So I'm saying that people, ifyou get, have that spiritual
connection with somebody becauseof a transplant or because of
you know, let's say even a blood.
Yeah.
So then you know, you, you say,like a blood transfusion, right
, that you would get some ofwhat, like their energy, their
(24:54):
powers, as we're saying, couldbe, if that's how people are
able to foretell the future.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Did that make sense?
I guess you know, yeah, I guessAnything's possible, right?
Who knows Like when I go in?
You know we donate, peopledonate blood all the time, Right
?
So you don't hear about it thatmuch as far as blood is
concerned Because I don't evenknow.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
do they even know that it's happening to them?
I don't know.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
mean.
But I think the fact that Ithink it's a good thing and I
don't think it's a bad thing oranything it should be, you know,
had any type of demerit oranything like that, because you
know, you went to the afterlifewithout something in your body,
right?
No, I don't think it works likethat, but I understand what
you're saying.
Yeah, it's interesting, though,that how connected you are to
(25:39):
your body and how someone elsecan experience.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's wild yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Because, like you're saying so, like even here,
mediumship and channeling, somemediums and spiritual
sensitivities believe that thedonor's spirit may linger for a
time near the organ, especiallyif their death was sudden.
so then, if you got one, thatfrom somebody who was a medium-
(26:04):
yeah that, then you might havethat power too, yeah that's
pretty crazy man yeah, I wonderif that I'm saying so like now,
you know I would be able to tellthe future, not tell the future
, but you know, just because youknow, you got what's her name
the Long Island Medium.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like, you got that lady and youknow she donates blood, so now
(26:28):
her donating blood is now.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I think we would haveheard of that already.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
What's if a Jedi Does ?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
it have metachlorians in it, you get some little bit
of force.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But you might, you just like push a piece of paper?
Yeah, but you might.
Yeah, because you have someExactly.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It may not be Jedi Master, yeah, but you have
enough to be able to you know,to bring your cup across this
table.
What's if it's okay?
Oh, yeah, how old are we rightnow?
Oh well, yo, yo, yeah, that'sexactly how old we are.
Yeah, yeah, I like that one.
(27:07):
That was a good one, that is agood one.
But yeah, you know, it's withanything, especially now,
because you know we've had our,our spiritual conversations, if
you will, and you know justabout where life could be, where
we've come from.
You know we've had all thatRight Kind of combo.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
We've been on the alien ride, exactly I mean we're
into all of that because we'reopen-minded to things and we're
not allowing ourselves to bejust tunnel vision.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Right, we're open to other things and that's why we
talk about the things we do,because it's interesting when
you hear something like this ispretty cool that this could
happen.
Yeah that could be true Someonecould transfer their energy
onto someone else, and thatwould be fantabulous.
But it may not happen all thetime.
I think it's just.
(27:55):
Maybe it only happens tocertain individuals, maybe the
individuals it happens tothey're more open to something
else.
I didn't think about that.
Right, a lot of people gettrampled so you don't hear a lot
of it.
You only hear from certain.
I'm sure if you research it'llbe a bunch, but not like yeah,
maybe people who are more open,their soul is more.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, that would be one to look up.
You know what I mean To to tohear more people who received
transplants and maybe eventalking to the families of the
donors to see if that you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I bet you they do it already.
I'm sure they do.
Yeah, that would be groovy.
They probably do, for sure, nodoubt about it, that would be
way groovy.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, cause I tell you what you know when you feel
that, like you said, that we do,like we've, you know, all just
spoken on, just as I said, beingin other people's presence and
you know them rubbing off on you.
I mean, bro, that's Talk aboutrubbing off on you.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You see it wasn't me Rubbing one out on you.
That's a different podcast.
That's a different podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
that's a different one that is a different one, oh
my god thanks for comingeveryone that's a good, no pun
intended that was good, tom.
That was good as you walkedaway with the pearl necklace.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You just fucking always have something to say.
At the end was good.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
That was good as you walked away with the pearl
necklace.
Oh man, oh, that's great.
That's not really what happened, people, I promise yeah, I
don't know if I'm gonna be ableto put this one on youtube-
people like it.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
That is too funny stuff, man.
Yes, over yourself, man.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yes, there you go.
Exactly, yeah, but yeah, man,this is super interesting and it
is really cool, you know,because my next question would
be is it that you yourselfchange upon receiving right?
Go ahead.
I'm sorry, because you aregrateful for being able to live
(30:06):
again, because now you have ahealthy organ, so you need to
accept it Right.
So then, now you know what.
I lived a little bit on theedge.
I was a little bit like thisperson.
Now I've gotten this gift to beable to live longer, because
I've gotten this, Now me myself.
Is it really that it's memyself?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
well, they say that.
They said that's another case.
It could possibly be becausethe fact you know you're getting
something and it's a mentalthing right, you know they talk
about, so you're great.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean like oh okay, I thought you meant that it was
like a psychosomatic orsomething yeah, right, right,
yeah, yeah, exactly like.
They're like, oh, for instanceLike oh, I hear the like, but
with these stories that we'vebeen reading, though, these
people didn't know about theother people's- stuff, so I
don't know it's too coincidental.
I mean, maybe that also happens, though, you know, maybe
(30:59):
sometimes it's psychosomatic,you know where they're like.
Oh, I think I have somethingyou know, right yeah.
But, and it's nothing you know,Right.
But then for some where it'sunexplainable, it's like how did
you know?
They know that this personliked this?
You know type of food?
Or something that they didn'tlike before.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
They find out that the person they got the heart
donated from liked that type offood.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, they person they got the the heart donate
from like that type of food.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, they're like yeah, tofu, yeah, I didn't like
it now I do, but now again when,as we get older, yeah, our our,
our, our taste buds change.
Right, there are things that welike now that we didn't like
before.
You know right, so that then,like you said, like we've been
saying now, is it justpsychosomatic that we are now
(31:47):
liking these things.
You know what I mean?
Is it now just again us beinggrateful for getting this
donation, that now we just arethankful and nice to people?
You?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
know what I'm saying.
I guess something would changewith you.
I would imagine it would, andhopefully, when you get it you
go through the transformation,because I heard it's not that
easy.
Just because you get onedoesn't mean you're gonna
survive it either right, yeahit's.
It's a hard thing to go through, so I think all of that you
need to have a positive mind,regardless, as best as you could
to get through that I wouldimagine, you know, and people
(32:21):
around you of course, right,yeah, right to support yeah
absolutely.
Yeah, it's necessary, you know,and people around you, of course
.
Right Right the support.
Yeah, absolutely it's necessary.
Yeah, I would imagine it's avery traumatic experience in
some way or another.
Yeah, it is, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yep, because you do feel it Emotionally too.
Yeah, like I said, because mysister donating the kidney, you
know you end up.
You know you feel some kind ofway.
It's not so much that you feelempty, but you just do feel
different.
You know what I mean.
Like huh, you or your sister,my sister, I'm saying you know,
like, you know she would feel,you know she felt, you know a
(32:56):
little bit different.
You know, like now it's thewhole thing.
You know I'm helping somebodyelse live.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm helping somebody else.
I've given.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
She recognized that that's a good thing, and that's
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So, like you know, it's that whole, it's just all
of that.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
You know what I mean.
That's called maturity, right?
I mean that's yeah, listen,she's always been more mature
than me.
Well, I, it's great, yeah, nolisten, my sister is amazing.
You know what I'm saying?
Anybody does it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
that's awesome yeah you know, and she, like I said
for her to turn around, I waslike you're better than me, you
know, whatever, not you know,just like how I was.
Yeah, no, no, you know, but youknow it is, it's those things,
it's that emotion, even too,it's that emotion that you had
just before you passed, thatmight still be in that organ.
(33:45):
You know what I mean.
Anything, right, yeah, I mean,like I said, if you're in a
traumatic accident and you'repassing, it's that last moment,
it's like you know what I meanand it's over.
You know what I mean thatthat's now stuck in your body.
That's why they say like ghosts, you know, because ghosts don't
know that they're gone, stuckin your body.
That's why they say like ghosts, you know, because ghosts don't
know that they're gone RightBecause the energy lingers.
Because the energy lingers.
(34:06):
You know what I'm saying.
They didn't know that they hadpassed on, because it happened
Like it was just that supershocking, like no, no, they're
just stuck in that moment,exactly so now it's kind of
strange either you know, butthen it's yeah, exactly and that
, but then that's the differentkinds of you know.
(34:26):
Well, I watch all those ghostshows too, and it's the
different kinds of ghosts thatthey say, yeah, there's
conscious ones, right ones thatare stuck in a loop.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, it's not even like a, it's just like a memory
is like right.
It's like it's not even like aghost, it's like a time, like
it's like a time loop.
Yeah, there's like like liketime has crossed Right, like
they say time doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yes, allegedly, you know Right.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
So maybe it's a glitch in the matrix you know,
there you go.
You know what I mean.
It's a past recording gettingRight yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Pre-play again, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
When you used to record videos and you had the
VHS tape.
They would still sometimes belike.
It would get that little static.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
They say it's like stored energy in the house.
Actually, when that happens,what happens Like ghosts.
Like the whole metaphysicaltheory is that it's not actually
the ghost, it's just energyfrom like.
It's like that like someonewalked in the hall the same way
(35:28):
every day for like 10 years, 20years of being in the house,
that that stored energy and thatit's like meant like it has,
like the house has like memory,right like there's energy in the
house from that person.
It's not even a ghost thosefootsteps, it's just like yeah,
fucking, energy stuck in thehouse, which is weird fucking's
not even a ghost as footsteps.
It's just like, yeah, fucking,energy stuck right house, right,
weird, fucking crazy, not evena ghost yeah, you're hearing
(35:48):
footsteps.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm out I hear footsteps.
Yeah, I'm fucked up, rightmyself do you have a good night?
Yeah, and that, and so again,um boom, I give you like so now,
because you said that and methinking now with this, so at
work today.
As a matter of fact, ithappened today the AC isn't
working properly at work.
(36:09):
Okay, yeah, and I'm standing inbetween the two machines I work
on and I'm talking to one of mystaff and I was like yo, you
smell that.
She looks at me like what, likeyou don't smell that.
She says no, what Smell likecigarettes.
Somebody was smoking.
It smelled like it smelled it.
It smelled like somebody wassmoking and had come in and they
had like they weren't smokingand you could smell the nicotine
(36:33):
.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Oh, you mean when someone comes in?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
yeah, outside, especially when it's raining,
yeah, and it was raining today,bro, it was raining today and
this and the girl she.
I said it was raining today andthe girl I was like you know
what's up.
She goes.
No, and she takes two stepsback from me and you know her.
I say her name and she'slooking at me like I don't know
what you're talking about.
I was like yo, and it's chillyover here, you feel the AC.
She's like it is hot.
What are you talking about?
I'm like nobody.
(37:00):
So with that, that's definitelyRight.
So now organ smoker.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, well, yeah, you would obviously have to get a
healthy organ.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Well, yeah, I'm just saying but if they were around
somebody that smoked, or if theywere ex-smokers, you know what
I mean?
That goes back to the cravings.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, but if it's already, oh, I see, if they were
ex-smokers, that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Right, Then you know, the organ would still be
healthy enough for you to get it, especially if they just died.
That's like you know, and Iforgot you could even get lungs
and stuff like that too.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Yeah right, that was in one of our other stories.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I didn't even do that , and that's I'm telling you,
man Lou, I believe you are 100%right.
You know I'm saying everythingis connected you know we I'll
make the the movie analogy youknow the avatar, you know, so
you have avatar and they wereall connected to awa.
You know, I mean, and it theyhad it that it was living in
(37:52):
that tree, in the first oneright, you know I'm saying, and
the other one, the water one.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I didn't get to see that.
Oh sorry you got.
I don't spoiler for everybody,but you can tell me I don't care
, all right well, and.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
But you can tell me I don't care.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
All right, well, and, and, but probably if I watch it
, but I'm going to watch itagain yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
The water one.
You know it was underwater.
You know what I mean.
They were connecting with allthe fish and well, I mean that
that it was it wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
They had gills and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Gills and stuff like that.
Yeah, but it was there was likeanother species of people yes,
another avatar that were livingin the water.
It's not like a plant.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
A different planet or same planet, no same planet.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's like seaweed, I guess.
Whatever the trees that wouldgrow under in the water, that's
what they were connecting to Onland, it was the tree Right.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And in the water it was like that seaweed kind of
stuff.
Whatever grows on the ground.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, and come to that.
It was all connected, right.
Like you see, it was just likethe tree the roots were down in
the water, kind of thing it was.
You know it's all oh cool.
But going back to what you'resaying, that it is, I do believe
that we are all connected insome way, shape or form.
You know, those of us who arecloser to each other is because
we have a better connection.
You know whether that we kneweach other from before, whether
(39:15):
we drank out of the same pool ofwater, whatever the case may be
, it was that we're allconnected.
Why?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
would I drink out?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
of the same pool of water.
Because back in the day when wedidn't have to dig out from the
well and get the whatever youknow, we were oh, oh, oh and
knocking people out with thebucket.
Okay.
We're going to go way, way backto the early days, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Oh yeah, that works, yeah yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I just think it's just the fact that they say
you've got to be careful.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
you put out into the universe Definitely, so what you
say can actually come back andhurt you.
There's so much stuff out there, so many different things that
people talk about.
A lot makes sense.
Some of it is just you knowlike what?
Really yeah, which is coolreally yeah, which is cool.
That's why I say, if you'reopen minded and you talk about
(40:07):
these things and you look atthem, heck.
You know.
My wife thinks I'm the biggestgeek there is.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I got.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
National Geographic on.
I'm watching the thing with thepyramids, anything that's you
know, travel channel, I'vewatched the ghost hunters, the
ghost hunters.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
yeah, that's what I'm saying, that's what we're about
.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
That's what we do.
We're nerdy.
Yeah, we like everything fromalmost any place, pretty much.
I mean.
I'm sure there's a lot morethat we don't.
Yeah, yeah, we haven't but-.
It was time.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
But it is man.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I you know like, listen, sorry.
Psychologically influenced.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Knowing details about the donor might create
subconscious associationsleading recipients to receive
changes in themselves.
In other words, that's whatwe're saying yeah, like you know
right Cellular memory theory.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Some researchers speculate the cells,
particularly in organs like theheart, may store certain
biochemical imprints that couldinfluence emotions or behaviors.
However, this is lightly highlycontroversial and not widely
accepted in the mainstreamscience.
Of course it's not.
Of course, medication andtrauma effects the physical and
emotional impact of saving atransplant, along with strong
(41:16):
immunosuppressive drugs, canlead to psychological changes
that might feel like newpersonality traits.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
That's freaking nuts.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying it's amazing how that
can just go to someone else andthey can experience that Mm-hmm.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, that's like hitting thelottery man.
You better hope you're gettingsomething good.
They do it with the bone marrowtoo.
I wonder, like you were sayingearlier, I wonder with the bow
marrow too.
I wonder, like you were sayingearlier, I wonder with the bow
marrow, if that has anything todo with it too.
(41:45):
Probably not, because you wouldhave heard about that already.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Well, I don't know I mean think about it how many
people think that they might becrazy when they say that all of
a sudden I've got these urges?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
or these thoughts.
I play classical piano.
All of a sudden, I have no ideahow that happens.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
That would be different, different like doing
the classical piano well, solike doing another language.
Yeah, like that would be thingsthat people would want to
celebrate and or say becausethey got that, you know, because
of having a transplant orwhatever.
But the ones who turn aroundlike yo, I eat broccoli now, or
you know, I turn around and Ican, you know, I drive a little
bit faster, I feel like I'm moreenergy or I quit smoking, like
(42:20):
those are things that peoplearen't gonna like, oh, oh yeah.
Hey, doc, this is what happened.
Let's put it in the you knowmedical journal.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Nobody's going to give a shit, not everybody's
appreciative of it, of it likethat Right.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, exactly, it is like, yeah, listen, I'm just
living another day and it'swhatever you know.
But again, these are thingsthat we've heard, seen spoken on
People.
Those are the experiences thatpeople have had, being able to
do all that stuff, and then youhave those who think coincidence
(42:51):
, right, confirmation bias.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Recipients may naturally develop new tastes and
behaviors over time.
When they learn about theirdonor, they might selectively
connect these changes to thetransplant.
In other words, it's just, it'sby accident, right, it doesn't
mean anything.
Yeah, it just happens to beyeah attitude, but when it's
strong, like the stories we readearlier.
That's the fascinating part.
(43:17):
We're not just talking aboutjust basic little things, you
know they're talking about okay,wait a minute, this happened
and that happened.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Nah, yeah, no it just doesn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, yeah no like that, I couldn't believe it
right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mwith you.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
That's crazy, yeah, I mean shit, like we've turned
around and said so many timesbefore.
You know, just be kind toeverybody, yeah, because you
never know.
You know what I mean.
You, you get a transplant, youtransplant, you'll need a
transplant.
You gotta be kind to peoplebecause, again, the universe, I
think that we're all, just, youknow, linked, we're linked in.
(43:53):
We're space dust, we're allspace dust, yeah we're linked in
space dust.
We are space dust that beingsaid, so with that, appreciate
everybody being here with us.
Thank you for listening,gentlemen, appreciate y
appreciate everybody being herewith us.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Thank you for listening.
Gentlemen, appreciate y'allbeing here.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Thank you very much, as always.
As always With that love, peaceand air grease live long and
prosper.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Go vegan.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Holla.
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