November 12, 2025 • 44 mins
Color, music, and memory take center stage as we explore why Día de los Muertos is a celebration of love—not fear. We start with the essentials: how different cultures mark the dates, why marigolds line the path, and what the vibrant calavera style actually means. Then we get personal, swapping stories about ofrendas stacked with favorite foods and small vices, the power of stones on headstones, and the familiar ritual of pouring one out for those who can’t be with us. Across borders and beliefs, the message lands the same: remembrance keeps us connected.
As the conversation unfolds, we wander into the mysteries that live beside these traditions—near-death experiences, life reviews, and the way our beliefs color what we see at the threshold. Some people meet family, some see only light, and many come back changed, gentler, and more awake to what matters. We balance wonder with curiosity, acknowledging both cultural nuance and practical explanations, while holding space for what can’t be measured.
We also stretch our imagination around consciousness—whether mind is more cloud than brain, whether time is a web, and how multiverse ideas and pop culture metaphors help us talk about the unsayable. Through it all, we keep our feet on the ground: rituals are for the living, and honoring the dead can be joyful, healing, and deeply human. If you’ve ever built an altar, left a stone, or told a favorite story just to keep someone close, you’re already part of this tradition.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:07):
Hello and welcome to Copman Crow, the Jersey Guy
Podcast, also CC and NJ guy.
SPEAKER_04 (00:14):
What's going on, everyone?
What's that?
So we our last episode we talkedabout Sierra Killers, but it was
also recorded on The Day of theDead.
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
Kenny, can you please help us because we'll
screw it up?
That's how you say it in aspice.
SPEAKER_03 (00:31):
We uh we're gonna have an episode, even though
it's past that date.
Uh, we're gonna have an episodeabout that.
SPEAKER_02 (00:36):
Yeah, we're actually on the date.
We're on the date, no, no, well,yeah, but when it's released.
I know.
SPEAKER_01 (00:40):
But you'll hear it post a few days later.
Well, so here's the thing.
So it's not there's a fewdifferent cultures that
celebrate it differently.
So it's from December 30th, Imean maybe December.
Wow, November?
Yeah, for real.
From October from Nov October31st, 30 yeah, 31st, all the way
until November 2nd.
God that's when differentcultures celebrate.
So we're still in the yeah,we're still right in there, you
(01:04):
know.
They're all in the in thevicinity.
Yeah, no, no.
So like Mexico is November 2nd.
Well, Mexico is actually the31st to November 2nd.
Philippines, Philippines isNovember 1st and the 2nd.
Brazil is November 2nd, Haiti isthe first and the second.
So, you know, Japan.
Oh, Japan has it too.
But theirs is in August,Ireland.
(01:26):
Wow.
Yeah, there's a whole bunch ofdifferent ones that that you
know, okay.
And and it's crazy because Iguess I didn't even think about
it being called that orrepresenting the same thing.
You know, I knew about thosecertain things, but I didn't
know that that's what they werecelebrating, if that makes
sense.
SPEAKER_04 (01:41):
But the one that most people refer to is the the
one from Mexico.
Yeah, and and the a veryspecific style of makeup.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
The skeleton, the whiteskeleton, and it's but it's not
like just like black and white.
It's a lot more colorful.
Yes.
Uh I think the colors aresupposed to be symbolic probably
of something.
(02:01):
Right.
If you guys want to look thatup.
But the they use that specificstyle and it's to honor the the
dead.
It's not about uh anythingspooky or scary, actually.
It's it's actually a a date tolike right isn't that what to
honor like the people who passedaway, like you know, pay homage
to them and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01 (02:19):
It's not a bad day, right?
SPEAKER_04 (02:20):
No, it's not like a spooky or mourning.
SPEAKER_02 (02:22):
I guess it could be with some people in certain
areas.
I mean, even if they're in thesame way, I'm sure there's a
dark side to it as well.
SPEAKER_04 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:30):
You know.
SPEAKER_04 (02:32):
But it's always looked at like a like a positive
type of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:35):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, no, no.
Uh it's it's it's like you said,you know, it's it's uh paying
homage to the people, you know,who have passed away, your
family members.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Just that's pretty much it.
And like you said, yeah, thecolors used on masks and in face
paint for the day of the deadcarry specific symbolic meanings
uh rooted in the tradition.
(02:57):
So the vibrant colors.
So like yellow and orange arethe curr colours prominently
features in the marangoldflowers represent the sun, the
light, unity.
Right.
Red is uh represents thephysical existence that sustains
the body and the soul.
Purple signifies mourning,grief, suffering, and pain.
Yeah, so everything I mean, butI it's like anything else.
You know, w this isn't comingfrom I think that's one thing
(03:20):
too I want to say first.
Dia de los muertos, you know,Day of the Dead, that's not a
movie.
It's it's there, you know, it'spart of the religion.
It's part it's a good thing.
It's just, you know, showingthanks and love to people who
have passed.
You know, it's not celebratingthe devil.
It's not, you know, drawing a uhpentagram on the floor and
whatever on the wall and killingchickens and shit like that.
(03:42):
That's not what this is about.
Not, you know, it's nothing likethat.
Everybody and anybody can takeit and make it something that
it's not, you know what I'msaying?
But this is something, you know,it's a celebration.
It's supposed to, you know, justbe happy that uh, you know, our
ancestors have moved on tosomeplace better than where we
are now.
You know what I'm saying?
That they're that they're happy,that they're relaxed, that
they're at peace, you know.
(04:04):
Uh heaven, if you will.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's the whole idea.
You know, that that's the daythat they come back kind of
thing.
They don't come back, I don'twant to say they come back to
life, but you know, that there'syou know, that they come and
they celebrate with us, if youwill, you know?
That we're celebrating theirmemory.
Like that's the whole I get thatyeah.
That's the whole idea.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:22):
I have something that I would like to to uh close
up on that I think is kind ofsimilar to that because it it
turns to be to be a good thingat when it comes to an end of
it.
So the show that we watched, uhErie Hall on Netflix.
Yes.
Okay, so at the end of thatseries, he winds up confronting
it at some point because he getsattacked in the shower and he's
(04:45):
pinned down and everything, andhe decides I gotta figure out
who this guy is.
He he actually gets to the pointwhere he gets in touch with his
father, and his father comes upwith him and they go for a r a
run together.
And they find this plaque whereeverywhere he runs all the time,
and this is the first time theyfind this plaque.
And this plaque is to a soldierthat was killed at Naspa by
(05:09):
Indians in the RevolutionaryWar.
SPEAKER_01 (05:12):
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_02 (05:13):
Right?
So he goes and he faces off withhim and he talks tries to, you
know.
He doesn't know that yet though.
He finds out later on.
He finds that out later on.
SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
Oh, no.
SPEAKER_02 (05:22):
Right, yeah, he just knows all right, this is a
soldier, so he doesn't know outuntil later on.
It turns out his mother has arelation on her side to the
person who died in the woods.
So he's trying to find somepeace, so he helped him get he
finally, yeah, he told him hecouldn't do this anymore.
You know, he faced up to him andeverything and got him to
(05:43):
because the guy wasn't in peacebecause he was tortured and he
was murdered when he wastortured by the Indians and and
he just couldn't move on forwhatever reason.
He was stuck and he somehow thethe great thing about the thing
is is that they were connectedsomehow.
SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (05:58):
And that was the weird thing.
And he figured it out.
He didn't even know it untilthat scene later on, too.
He didn't know it right away.
Right.
They found it out later on.
That's crazy.
Yeah, see that.
But it turned out to be a goodthing, though.
Yeah.
Well, they got it.
In a sense, in a sense.
In a sense.
I mean, they were torturedpretty much.
SPEAKER_01 (06:16):
That's the idea, you know, like things like that.
It's good stories like that, youknow.
Like I said, that you that theother little muertos, that
that's the day, you know.
I said it's that thing.
It's, you know, some people thatthey're able to help out the
spirits that, you know, maybenot, you know, ancestors that
got stuck or whatever, you know,they didn't run out the door
fast enough or whatever, andthey missed the light and shit,
you know.
Stuff like that, that happens.
(06:37):
But it's it's a it's a it's asuper celebration, bro.
Like we said, you know, you gotparades, you know, the costumes.
It must be incredible, man.
Well, you know, from us growingup in the city, and I'm sure you
may, I mean, no, you know you'veseen it.
I don't think I've never beenable to go.
I've owed the Halloween parade.
The Halloween parade down in thevillage.
In the city.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (06:56):
No, I don't think I've ever done that.
I would like to, though.
SPEAKER_04 (07:00):
It's a night parade, yeah.
People have like sometimes bigthese big giant puppets.
Kiss have done it a couple oftimes, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
They did, bro.
They did it back in the 70s,yeah.
70s, and I think they're notgoing to be able to get it.
No, I did late even later on.
Did it in the 80s, too?
I remember the.
Even 90s, I think.
Maybe, yeah.
I remember them coming in thatlate.
But no, you might be right.
You're not going to be able todo that.
SPEAKER_04 (07:18):
If if like Gene Simmons, like him dressed as in
costume.
That's what they did.
That's what they did.
They didn't and like incognitobe like, oh, that's a really
good kiss costume.
Oh, that would be funny.
I wouldn't have to be a goodidea.
Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (07:30):
Yeah, when they did it years ago, like Lou Saying,
they did.
They came in costume.
All the time they came incostume.
No, but it would be funny.
But then nobody looked like justnobody knew that was.
Yeah, and then people like, it'sreally you.
That's hilarious, man.
That is so freaking funny.
(07:51):
Yeah, that would be cool,though.
I would love to.
But, anyways, like I said, it'sthe celebration.
Like I said, depending on whereyou are, depending on on, you
know, and like we said, I wastelling you guys before, the
different colors that meandifferent things.
You know, and and you know, it'sI think it's one of those things
where you don't really pay inany mind.
Because now, you know, I wasthinking about this the other
(08:11):
day.
I'm driving on the highway, andyou know, there's a few spots on
the highway where you see peoplehave their crosses and stuff
like that for people who havepassed away and stuff.
Same idea.
You know what I'm saying?
It's literally the same idea.
Just not and not holiday.
Right.
Well, it's on the specific day,but it's not to the same, it's
not like a parade, you know, butit's still it's paying homage to
(08:32):
the people that, you know,passed away that are sitting
there and whatnot, you know.
In cemetery.
You go and you put up the, youknow, you put flowers on the
tombstone or candles and youknow, leave a bottle of whiskey
or whatever.
Yeah, or a rock or somethinglike that.
Right.
Well, you know, that's actuallymore of a European thing.
SPEAKER_04 (08:47):
It is.
That's what the rock is true.
I remember we talked about that.
What do you do with Europe?
SPEAKER_02 (08:51):
Yeah, because when a lot of people that came from
Europe, whether Polish, Germany,um anywhere really, that was a a
symbolic thing of it.
But uh but if Jews are do it alot as well.
They you know and that goesagain because their ancestors
came from Europe and they'rehere, so old traditions and
things that people listen, youknow, do.
But that's actually that's agood thing too.
SPEAKER_04 (09:10):
But it's rock is seen also because it's like a
permanent thing.
It's not like a flower thatdies.
It's supposed to be like youknow, like Yeah.
But wasn't it supposed to likebe that you you visited that
someone visited or somethinglike that?
SPEAKER_02 (09:23):
Yeah, I would say it just do to let them know that
you were there.
Is really you know what it wasabout.
At least that's what I was told.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know?
That's another couple of rock.
Yeah, here's another thing thatwe had to do.
SPEAKER_04 (09:33):
How messed up is it?
Does you ever you think somepeople take rocks off of them
and put them on someone else'smessed up?
No, I wouldn't put that.
I think that would be on curbyour enthusiasm.
SPEAKER_02 (09:44):
I would think that that that would be effed up, and
I'm sure I would hope thatpeople wouldn't, but I have to
say that probably someone did.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you have insults.
Yeah.
I could picture Larry Daviddoing that.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that would make a thatwould make a good episode.
Yeah, it would, huh?
Actually, I don't know.
He may have thought of it andsaid, uh, maybe that's the
material.
SPEAKER_04 (09:59):
You don't know it's missing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Really?
Are they gonna come and check?
Yeah, I forgot.
I forgot.
And then it would be like, I wasmissing a rock.
SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Larry, you know?
That is too freaking hilarious,man.
Yeah.
But yeah, like I said, did youfind what you were looking for?
SPEAKER_02 (10:19):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
Okay.
Like I said, you know, so nowI'm gonna be stand corrected in
the part of the welcomingspirits.
Families welcome the souls oftheir oh no, I was right.
Okay.
Families welcome the souls oftheir deceased relatives back
for a brief reunion on November1st and 2nd.
They build oferendas that's uhofferings.
Like, you know, like they'llleave, like I said, you know,
leave have alcohol or like theirfavorite food for whichever one
(10:42):
that, you know, you know,whatever family member you're
you're paying homage to.
You know, whichever ones arethere.
If you know, like, you know,five of your family members that
had passed, and you know, oneliked rice, the other liked, you
know, whiskey or whatever, youput those offerings out there so
that they're sitting, you know,have that.
SPEAKER_04 (10:56):
Oh, so like their favorite foods and stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (10:57):
Yeah, stuff like that, all the cigars and shit.
SPEAKER_02 (11:00):
I know people have brought like tequila or whatever
the drink was and just pour iton the drink for me.
SPEAKER_01 (11:05):
Just put a nice uh blue woman.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
What's that growing around thetombstone?
Oh no, honey.
So I don't know if you ever putthat yellow that's hilarious,
bro.
Yeah, like throw it on the rightgrave.
Yeah.
Oh, that would be freakinginsane.
But I wouldn't be pre-made, soI'm not sweating on that shit.
But no, dude.
(11:25):
So, hush, and I lost what I wasgonna say.
That's freaking funny as hell.
Yeah, I did, bro.
I did.
Yeah, but anyways, it's like yousaid, just you know, all those
little offerings and things likethat.
But you were saying now thatpeople bring certain things to
the grave to thanks, orremembrance, or so back in the
day, I don't know if you guysever did it, but you know, it
was like uh everybody would tapthe bottle before we opened a
(11:46):
bottle of 40, you know, ofwhatever beer and stuff we were
drinking, and then they'll like,you know, pour some out for my
homies before pour a little bitout for the for those who have
passed or no longer here with usor whatever.
SPEAKER_04 (11:56):
Every time I hear someone say that, I think.
Well, we just do it.
We would do mostly like a post.
SPEAKER_01 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, suck with a 40 in hishand.
Yeah.
No, no, you're right.
You know, that too.
That too.
You know, hey, too.
So and so.
But you know, you would pour itout for people or whatever
because you do so.
I know about that as well.
Yeah.
It's the same idea, differentculture.
You know, except right, but I'mjust saying, like, you know, it
well, yeah, that way differentculture, like as far as
different.
And that's what makes itinteresting.
And that's why it's wild becauseyou know, so so far, anything
(12:25):
that I've ever looked up, heardof, you know, in in
myancestry.com shit, it's neverbeen anything where it was, like
I said, it wasn't anythingsatanic.
I'm talking about like the dayto day.
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't like that.
Like, I want to keep saying thatshit because I don't want to be
a good idea.
I know because people take that.
Like, oh, that's satanic.
SPEAKER_04 (12:44):
There's a lot of weird especially old world
cultures.
Because Mexico pulls from oldworld culture.
Right.
There's a lot of old worldreligious culture stuff that's
just really weird and creepy.
Right.
That people think is if you toldthem, it'd be like like like
relics.
Like, oh yeah, there's a there'sa decapitated head of a saint in
a cathedral.
And like when I went to like acathedral when I was in Italy,
(13:06):
and they just have like adecapitated head of a saint.
It's called a relic.
And yeah, and and and thenanother church will have that
saint's hand in it or something.
They like cut the bodies apartand keep the body parts in like
that's weird.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04 (13:19):
And you would think that that's don't they also bury
them in or underneath theVatican?
Well, I know they do have likecrypt.
Like a tomb of cryptography,right?
I don't know.
Isn't there like a certain thingfor like popes that they have to
do?
No, but not necessarily saints,but saints they say, they say in
in like I think like they doweird shit.
Like if you dig up a body andit's hasn't decomposed, they're
(13:40):
like, oh, it's a saint.
Oh, really?
I thought it was so.
But actually, a lot of that hasto do with where they're buried.
Like if there's like a lot oflimestone and and water filters
and filters of the lime, itactually preserves the body and
stuff.
Really?
Yeah, they've they've found outlike it's my.
There it is.
SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
There it is.
Well, again, well, but so it'sthe same idea.
Because even look at that, younever so you know, Catholic
religion, you know, they'resuper strict on a lot of their
stuff, you know, to you know,bury and everything else with it
and how they do their stuff.
So that then, you know, Day ofthe Dead, you know, that's they
look some Catholics might lookat it a little bit different
because of what they believe Dayof the Dead is, or what it would
(14:16):
be that's why they say theyassume to say that.
That's why I keep saying it'snot a satanic day.
I didn't think it was.
SPEAKER_04 (14:22):
I don't have my phone because it's recording,
but maybe there is actuallysomeone else to actually they
dig up the bodies.
Yeah, that's out in the case.
Is that like Thailand or uhBurba?
Or on Day of the Dead?
They actually dig the bodies.
Why do they dig that?
And they walk around with paradewith them, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
No, no, no.
Yeah, yes.
Remind me not to give them.
SPEAKER_04 (14:44):
Yeah, but no, no.
It's one like Laos or or I Idon't know.
One of the one of the reasonthey know that there's no reason
they think it is.
SPEAKER_01 (14:53):
It's Thailand, one of those Yo Luda was fucking
hilarious, bro.
SPEAKER_04 (14:58):
One of the one of the South Pacific cultures that
make up the body.
SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
So you look it up now or interesting thing for me
growing up in Judaism.
Right.
Because we're never again, weweren't ultra religious, but we
did follow certain things thatwere supposedly the way so when
someone passes away, you know,you you throw dirt on the grave,
right?
And then when you come home,there's a container of water or
(15:24):
something out there for you towash your hands.
Right.
Don't bring death home with you,but don't bring it in the house.
Yes, yes, yeah.
Before you go into the house.
SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Right.
Yes.
unknown (15:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:34):
I always thought that was cool as hell.
I yeah.
Interesting concept because, youknow, like I didn't why but
think of the time it came from,right?
And they just continue to use itbecause it's part of the fabric
and how long it's been with it.
Yeah, man.
You know, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (15:47):
Yeah.
And and and that's some it'sjust so many things, places,
cultures that you never thoughtof that do this.
You know what I mean?
And you know, think about it.
When we sit and we're justtalking regular stuff and we're
talking about somebody who haspassed, you know, that's us
paying homage, if you will,telling that funny story or that
fucked up story either way, buttelling that story of that
(16:10):
person that's passed and, youknow, sharing that moment with
others.
Same idea.
Yeah.
On a larger scale, you know, iswhat they do on day of the dead.
It's in Indonesia, bro.
Yeah.
So Wallace Sulawa Sulawesi,Indonesia, is where they do.
Indonesia.
Indonesia.
Yeah, where they turn around andthey uh yeah, I'm good.
Yeah.
(16:30):
They dang up the bodies.
No, I'm good.
Yeah, they bring the body.
It's not a festivity or a hobbyI would like to get into.
Yep.
And it's crazy because when theywrap them up, it's like old
school mummy stuff.
You know, if you wrap them upjust right, you know, they're
basically preserved.
SPEAKER_02 (16:44):
Do they wrap them up that way when they first die,
I'm assuming, right?
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then every year they digthem up, they dig them up.
They dig them up and they unwrapthem and then wrap them.
Uh-huh.
And they bring them in, they putthem in their favorite chair,
like they'll light cigarettesfor them and shit like that.
Don't you mouth?
SPEAKER_02 (16:58):
Haven't you ever seen the old school pictures of
people?
Even in this country, back inthe day where they would have
the funerals in the house, orthey would take pictures with
the dead before they buried.
Like they were actually sittingwith them and taking pictures.
The black and white, you knowwhat I'm talking about.
Yeah.
No, you've seen them, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (17:14):
I hate it.
I I that was a thing too thatused to be morbid.
People used to do the funeralsin their homes.
That used to be very popular.
I think some people I thinkstill might do it, but it used
to be done back in the day.
I think back.
It's morbid, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
Wait, but I think that was more because of they
all lived like out in the middleof West Bubblefuck.
Uh- You know what I'm saying?
So then it was a mission to getto the church.
The same thing, but think aboutit, bro.
Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
I'm not saying that it was probably just easy to do
it.
They wouldn't have regulationsback then to do that shit.
Right, yeah, it was whatever.
You could mean house.
SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:42):
Because I mean I guess.
This is a time where fire exitsand fucking buildings were
locked up and chained that youcan get out.
SPEAKER_01 (17:47):
They can get in, right?
Yeah.
You know?
But it was like, you know, Isaid people would they like live
on the farms or they just livedup in the mountains or whatever.
So they would send the word out,you know, listen, you know,
so-and-so passed, you know,we're gonna have the the the
viewing or whatever on such sucha date and come over, you know.
They go to the house.
And they go to the house.
Same thing like, you know, theother way around when they were
born.
People were two, three years oldbefore they actually made it
(18:09):
down the mountain or, you know,to the hospitals and shit, you
know, coming from almostanywhere.
My my great aunt, rest in peace,she was born in the mountains of
Puerto Rico, and she was like, Ithink three, four, five years
old.
By the time they actuallybrought her down, that they came
down to make their trip downinto town, and they were
actually able to get her a birthcertificate.
(18:29):
So when we're thinking that shepassed away like 105 years old,
she was probably like 115.
You know what I'm saying?
Like she was like, you know whatI mean?
It's just one of those things.
Because I mean, but again, backin the day, there was no reason
to have to come into town assuch.
You know, everybody wasbasically self-sustaining.
You know, you had your farm, youhad your livestock, you had
whatever.
The doctor would have to rideout to your house to go and do
(18:51):
the little house in the prairieshit.
Right, exactly.
Instead, I would just turnaround and like.
SPEAKER_02 (18:54):
But yeah, but still it's so giving me though.
That's fine.
All that shit's good, but thefact that you're t you're
sitting them in chairs andyou're taking pictures of the.
That's the part I was sayingthat's so goddamn morbid.
SPEAKER_01 (19:07):
Not a morbid, bro.
That shit.
But again, we're not trying toknock anybody's religious.
No, no, no, no.
That has nothing cultural.
That has nothing to do withreligion.
For me, well, uh yeah, culture,religion.
That's what they get.
SPEAKER_02 (19:17):
Yeah, but I don't think there's I don't believe
well, not any religion thatdon't they smell?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think there'sanything in any r religion that
we know of.
Talking about people who livedin this country or came from all
the day.
Oh, sorry, but you know, youknow, we're not talking about
fucking other.
I'm talking about here, like oldschool pictures of people taking
pictures of passed away.
(19:37):
Yeah, they still do that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:38):
People still do that shit.
SPEAKER_04 (19:39):
I yeah, remember I've seen that happen in
someone's house before and theylike had pictures of like Yeah,
people get in their casket.
I'm like, why?
Out of frame, too, which is evenweirder.
SPEAKER_02 (19:50):
The pictures that you already have of them.
SPEAKER_04 (19:52):
Why do you need the pictures?
SPEAKER_02 (19:53):
Not enough, but you need to have the one with them
in the coffin.
Why?
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
Yeah, nope.
That's what I'm with.
SPEAKER_02 (19:58):
That's the last thing that's why for me I
already know that one, I don'twant to be I don't believe in an
open casket anyway, because ofhow I was brought up.
Right.
See, there are certain things wegrab with us that you kind of
stick to when it comes towhatever you were brought up
with, right?
I don't want to see it, and Idon't like going to those to
viewings or at all.
You know, usually I don't go inthe room.
They have to be really close tothe family to the point where
(20:20):
I'll walk in.
I don't kneel at the thing, uhyou know, at the I don't do any
of that.
SPEAKER_04 (20:26):
Well, if I don't know the person that died, I
don't think that's it.
SPEAKER_02 (20:28):
Yeah, I usually don't go in the room.
Yeah, I don't have to go in theroom.
SPEAKER_04 (20:31):
You know, because a lot of times you're uh you're
going just to you know payrespect to the person to the
people of the family.
SPEAKER_02 (20:36):
Right.
That's what it's about.
SPEAKER_04 (20:37):
It's about the family now.
It's not about him.
SPEAKER_03 (20:39):
I'll walk past the skip, but I don't know how you
don't know them.
SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
It's weird.
That's weird.
SPEAKER_04 (20:43):
Like am I gonna walk up to the casket and be like, I
missed it.
SPEAKER_02 (20:47):
That's the whole three-day thing about you know
Christ.
SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
But I'll go to I'll go and I'll you know, say, you
know, pay my respects to family,saying I came to your, you know,
I came to the week and you know,whatever.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
Show you face there, you know.
But hey, like you said earlier,see each other.
You know what I mean?
This is what you were, you know.
Yeah, you know, the and this iswhat you brought up with, this
is what you do.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For me, it was like good.
SPEAKER_04 (21:11):
I'm good.
Yeah, I don't want any.
I like this version of it,though.
I don't want my body on a view.
No.
I already told everybody.
First of all, I don't even wantto.
I don't want a funeral home,nothing.
I'm just gonna be cremated.
But you you know, uh what is it?
Uh what is it called?
We had a memorial for you.
That was it called of life.
Celebration of life.
SPEAKER_02 (21:32):
That's the way to party, bro.
So if anything happens, yeah, Itold my kids the same thing.
I said I uh my wife as well.
I said, I just want people tocome and hang and talk about the
good memories.
Talk and laugh and cry and dowhatever it is, and have my
music on.
Get the DJ going.
Right, and have the music onthat I liked and all that shit.
Yeah, no, that's what I'msaying.
All music that we all liked, ofcourse, not just mine, but
(21:54):
certain shit.
SPEAKER_04 (21:56):
If they're gonna play music that I liked, it's
all about like dark shit.
I listen to dark wave, it's likeabout it.
SPEAKER_01 (22:03):
Simon and Gotham, who maybe like dark sense.
I listen to dark wave.
Put an urn with your ashes, likeyou put the urn over there, and
then in the in the middle of themusic.
SPEAKER_04 (22:13):
Maybe one of the bands I listen to, the name is
She Passed Away.
You see, well, you're not a she,so you passed away.
SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
He passed away.
No, no, but you turn around andyou have your urn there playing
the music, and all of a suddensomebody hit Tink, tink, tink.
SPEAKER_02 (22:25):
Here's something interesting, right?
SPEAKER_01 (22:27):
Oh, don't give me any idea.
SPEAKER_04 (22:28):
Yeah, I'm just saying, hold on, look, so go
ahead.
No, if they were to have mycasket, you gotta get a
Bluetooth speaker of my ownvoice going, they already had
that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
That's all I'm gonna say.
It's an Irish wedding, Ibelieve.
You know, they were putting inthe casket.
And he had a thing.
He did it on purpose.
Yeah, the guy was getting putdown into the state.
He's like, hey, wait, I'm notready yet.
No way.
And people just started laughingwhile they're standing over the
grid.
He did it on purpose.
He did it on purpose.
He had one of his friends, youknow.
That's awesome, man.
Yeah, man, it's hilarious.
(22:58):
I'm sorry, Luca, you were gonnasay that.
I totally was uh thought theother one, too, was somebody
else was telling me they saidthat they wanted to have a bunch
of like men in black kind ofthing, like you know, big ma,
like just not Italian mafia,just you know like big
gangster-looking dudes walkingin.
They're like, sorry, you know,thanks, boss.
You were a great boss.
All right, uh, have a good one.
And then walk out and make themlook like.
(23:19):
I'm talking about how culturesare, right?
SPEAKER_02 (23:20):
So culturally, they say if you have a near-death
experience, yeah.
What happens at the tennis,whatever you grew up with, what
church, you know, if you went tochurch and you believed in
Christ or whatever it was, isthe version of what or similar
to those that lane as far as howyour near-death experience could
be.
Because they I read a thingwhere like atheists just have a
(23:41):
light.
Right you still see a light,they just go, they don't have
anything that they believe in.
Right.
So but they're near thatexperience, it's just a light.
We have people Roman Catholic orJudaism or whatever it is,
Hindu, right?
They experience that.
So it's funny how they followthat from life to death, meaning
when they go to church, they seeit, they bury people that way,
and then they wind up havingthat ex most likely having that
(24:03):
kind of experience when theypass away.
Right.
Which is interesting as well.
I always think, oh, what kind ofmind would I have?
Yeah.
You know?
Not that I want to know anytimesoon.
But then I think it wouldprobably be I think it'd be more
like towards the atheist side orsomewhere in the middle.
SPEAKER_01 (24:17):
Well, i it would be one of those things of what it
is that you feel for that lastminute.
Because you know, so it's theit's your last thoughts, is what
it is that you probably the waythey referenced it was about how
you were brought up.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
You were brought up a certain way, nine times out of
ten, you would lean that way,that's what you believed.
And that was the the after deathyou saw Christ, you went some,
you know, however that isusually in that lane.
So if you were if you had areligion of you were Judaism,
you kind of went a differentdirection.
But you still had a you knowthat an atheist didn't really
have anything except for light,like a ball of light.
(24:52):
They still went somewhere, butthey they went where their
mindset or how they lived life.
Yeah.
There wasn't bad or wrong orright.
It's just everybody goes thereregardless.
Yeah.
It's just their version of it.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Everybody's version isdifferent.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:06):
And then probably there's other stuff too, I would
assume.
Like Yeah, like they say you seefamily members, you know,
absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (25:10):
Well, yeah, then of course you're with whoever you
are.
And also you get the viewingwhere you view, you view your
life, and you're the person whothe judges.
SPEAKER_00 (25:20):
Ooh.
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
You have to fe they say you feel whatever the view
is, you feel everything thathappened in your life over
again.
Yeah.
You know what's kind of messedup.
SPEAKER_04 (25:28):
My um one of my friends growing up, his uh
father was dying of cancer orwhatever, and he said that his
like the last he he told me likeit was two days before his dad
died, that like he was lookingout the window from his kitchen
and saw his dead father andbrother sitting on top of the
shed or the garage roof.
Whoa.
Oh, that's crazy.
(25:48):
And then two days later he died.
From the you know, from So Dadsaid he saw that.
Yeah.
Wow.
Dad who died.
Yeah.
Oh no way.
SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
That's kind of crazy.
Yeah, that's when you know it'scoming, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (26:04):
Well, they say, you know, people who who are in
hospice and things like that.
That's kind of they startominous, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (26:09):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02 (26:10):
They see they have people who see certain people
before they go, right?
Or they have something they needto get done before they pass
away, before they can go.
They're dying.
They're gonna die.
But they're kind of the ones whoare holding on because they got
something they need to take careof.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
And that happens too.
That's also when you know thatcould happen.
And then once you do, whetherit's that person or whatever it
(26:32):
is, you know, and then when it'sdone, usually you're gone.
Yeah.
You know, you're out.
Yeah.
He was a you know, so and so.
He needed he saw so and so andwhatever.
Or was something else that theyhad to take care of or has
something to do with a brotheror something.
Who knows?
You know, there's a book aboutit that's really good.
So that I read that hadinteresting stories like that.
(26:54):
You know, it's like, that'scrazy.
SPEAKER_01 (26:56):
Yeah, you know.
I that's what I'm saying.
I think that, you know, I I I Ihear what you're saying, I agree
with you, you know, what yousaid before about, you know,
people going and what theirreligion is or, you know, what
they believe.
But I'm almost wondering if atthat last moment that because
you your your your fear of whatthe afterlife would be, if
that's what you would turnaround and that was like your
(27:18):
last thought.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I would say, like so forme, because I'm that guy.
SPEAKER_02 (27:22):
So, you know, what my violent death is what you're
saying.
SPEAKER_01 (27:25):
Oh, I could, you know what I'm saying?
Not that I'm gonna die ofviolent death, but that's just
what I'm gonna see, like who itis I'm gonna see on the other
side, right?
If it's gonna be that familymember, is it gonna be that I'm
gonna see my life flashingbefore my eyes?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, like you know what I'msaying, I think that that's what
your mind becomes.
SPEAKER_02 (27:40):
The common thread is what they say.
They see you kind of see aviewing of your life from the
time from the beginning to end.
And you feel everything that'shappening that you already had
done, but it's like super it'slike you're in a different
place, a different time.
The way it's described, it'slike it doesn't take long, it
happens.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
And then you're out.
You go wherever.
(28:01):
There's no like for instance,people who commit suicide, like
we were talking earlier, right?
Eventually they see the lightand they come out of it.
You know, they but in thebeginning, sometimes it's dark.
Sometimes it's not, sometimesit's they see the light right
away.
Yeah, okay.
Right, right, right.
Again, it depends on thatperson.
(28:22):
Or what what's going on or whathappened in their life to the
point that they needed to dothat.
Right, right, right.
Some bounce back from it andtake a positive from it.
Hopefully, if it's a positiveexperience, they take that and
then they their lives putthey're advocates for suicide.
You know, you know, not to havesuicide, but to prevent suicide,
I should say.
Um, you know, a lot of peoplehave positive it's just funny
(28:43):
how that certain things couldhappen.
You know, I I I want to you knowwe always hear the positive one
about when someone passes away.
Oh, they seen this, they wentthrough a tunnel, they saw their
own, but it wasn't their time.
They go through certain things,boom, and they're back.
Right.
Kind of thing.
Right.
Right.
You know.
Well what about those people whowho prov you know uh created
their death, you know, did it.
(29:05):
What did they experience?
Yeah.
You know, what was the outcomeof that?
Was it someplace did they gosomewhere that was not good?
You know, some people said theydid.
They went to a place that waslike super dark and lonely and
nothing.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You know, like but you know, butgot out of it fortunately.
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying.
There's always two sides.
We always kind of focus on theone.
Oh wow, that's crazy.
(29:26):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's positive because youwant to hear that one better.
But it's curious to know aboutis there anyone who has had
negative experiences?
I think.
Yeah.
That's what's so interestingabout death and you know, we're
on the day of the dead we'retalking about that.
SPEAKER_04 (29:40):
So it's funny, it's become like a life after death
episode a little bit.
Right.
A little bit.
SPEAKER_01 (29:45):
Well, because it basically is.
It is.
It is.
You know what I mean?
Because I mean, like I said, Diade los Muertos is just that's
what we're saying.
It's that celebration of them,you know.
And we always hope that thepeople when we without digging
them up.
Without digging them up.
Yep, exactly.
Without digging them up.
that you know, it it's it thatwe're hoping that they went to
the you know, that they were atpeace when they did pass.
(30:05):
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, of course.
And you know, I I it it's justcrazy.
It's wild because, you know,like right now we could sit and
we talk about well, we could sitand talk about it, the other
motto, we talk about the peoplethat have passed, we talk about,
you know, seeing the light orwhatever you're seeing at the
end, you know, at the days andwhatever.
And it it's still what is therea fear at that moment?
(30:30):
You know what I'm saying?
Like are you scared?
Yeah.
Are you scared or is it like thevoices already talking to you
that you're just like and you'recalm just before you actually
pass.
You hope so, right?
You know what I'm saying?
We don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (30:43):
That's the thing that's so mysterious because we
don't know how we're gonna passaway or of what or is it going
to be sudden?
Is it an accident?
God forbid I'm not putting anybad vibes out there.
I'm saying that's the mysteriouspart about life, right?
Because we'll be as careful aswe possibly can and take care of
ourselves the best as we can,but at some point we are going
to die regardless.
Right, right.
(31:03):
It's gonna happen.
Yeah.
But that's just from what weunderstand only one step which
goes day of the dead.
So now we'll be on the otherside.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (31:12):
Yeah.
Now think about it.
Now you go, you pass, now you'rehaving a good time.
And then you would hope Day ofthe Dead comes and not a bit,
Kenny come back hey can you hangout for a little bit?
Good.
No, come on for one day.
Come and hang out.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
Come on for the night.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:28):
What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_02 (31:29):
Because it's usually at night right?
Not the whole day.
Is it the whole day?
SPEAKER_01 (31:31):
No, there's a few of them that are a couple of days
later.
SPEAKER_02 (31:33):
Yeah are they really because Halloween's the whole
day too.
SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
So you know like come back, you know, hang out
with us, you know, keep talkingto them like ah you know I mean
I gotta go back and hang outover there.
I left the ship, you know, I'mout of here.
Over there having a good oldtime I'm out of here.
Yeah I'm driving a cat make aquick thing and then I'm out.
SPEAKER_02 (31:51):
Yeah yeah yeah that's funny.
SPEAKER_01 (31:54):
But you know I mean i i I wish that there was I
don't know if I want to say Iwish, but it would be cool to
know if the people you know onDay of the Dead, you know, on on
these celebratory quote unquoteholidays, if they know, if they
understand that, you know,people st you know still talk
about them, people still missthem.
You know, we would I'm sayingyou know those who celebrate
(32:16):
like that, you know, you hopingthat that they know.
Yeah.
You know, like oh yes I wasthinking about you know oh I
miss you.
SPEAKER_02 (32:22):
You know we had these laughs or whatever that's
it's kind of the same like ifyou ever think about somebody or
something or whatever, you'lleither and somebody will say oh
I saw so and so the other dayI'm just fucking thinking of
that.
Yeah but so I think in some wayit's possible that it it makes
it to the other side.
SPEAKER_01 (32:41):
Yeah because some way or the other it's like when
you think like you said wheneven when you're thinking about
somebody and they'll call howmany times you know the three of
us are sitting together bullshiton the phone or whatever and
it's like one of us will saysomething it's like yo I was
just thinking that right youknow what I mean same idea.
To me it's the same idea.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
I think there's something going on yeah yeah
it's a connection that'sdefinitely a connection it's the
force my friend yes I love whatyou think that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_04 (33:07):
Yeah force is real Dave I think so you know I start
to think they say if you tapinto we are connected somehow
and I don't know how you knowand they they say that human
consciousness they don't knowwhere it comes from like they
don't know where in the brainlike they can't like they can't
find how the brain like so likethere's theories that like
figuring it out like little bylittle thoughts we think they're
(33:30):
in our head but maybe they'reremote they're in the cloud.
SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
They're in the cloud right they're in the in the
human cloud they say theconnection that we're all that's
what I believe.
SPEAKER_04 (33:40):
I I I actually I used to be atheist remember we
were talking about the firstseason we were doing this.
And now I I have more of like ametaphysical kind of I believe
not simulation theory as acomputer like the matrix but I
believe that like all religionsare just interpreting the same
thing.
That's how I feel you know it'sjust my interpretation of this
(34:04):
it doesn't mean I believethey're all right.
Yeah.
Okay.
And that it's a lot of it's justbased on the culture where the
religion was founded.
Right and the interpretationyeah and then that and then
there's some people who aremystics and prophets in
different cultures and that'sjust what the but like they're
all saying the same thing.
Yeah and yeah they're talkingabout the same damn God.
(34:24):
And like you know yeah it's thesame one.
SPEAKER_02 (34:27):
It's bullshit fucking one regardless.
It's your version your storywhatever.
And I don't I don't follow anyspiritual in a sense because and
you don't have to be religious.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (34:40):
That's what people screw that up to be spiritual
because you can be our souls weare the soul and these are just
our capsule.
What is it like what's thatmovie?
Avatar.
Like yeah we're avatars right alittle bit and then we go to
another cocoon cocoon right?
SPEAKER_01 (34:57):
I did but I don't I just remember it was in the 80s
a long time ago those whitethings yeah the white little
yeah alien spiritual lookingthings yeah so I mean and you're
right and that and your spiritis goes to the next term you're
done with this body and then yougo all right now it's you move
on to the next you guys are theones that told me that that it
(35:18):
was like you know it's like somepeople they can either go to the
light to be reincarnated or theylike look over their shoulder
turn around and that and they'llgo home.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (35:28):
Meaning they came if you want to go there right but
you might be reincarnated andsent back that's where if you go
turn around and look behind youyou'll see where you came from
and you'll go to that spot.
That's that's one of thetheories that people have out
there.
SPEAKER_04 (35:42):
That's what you guys took about that's pretty that's
turn off the wall right take mehome turn around to the light so
the lights behind you and sayyeah yeah yeah yeah exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
But if you go to light you're gonna get recycled.
Recycled right and then sentback again that's funny
recycled.
SPEAKER_02 (35:59):
Yeah all right all right you're going back again
yeah but then if that's the casehow many times were you sent
back?
Do you even know?
Is this the first time you everhave your life or is this like
your 12000th time is one ofthose things too bro.
SPEAKER_01 (36:15):
Think about it.
Think of how many times thatyou've had and like we've had
you know we've had theconversation you've had the time
I'm sorry go ahead bro no no goahead that you have those
thoughts of like you know you ina cowboy outfit or you you know
just being in a ho in adifferent country or whatever.
SPEAKER_04 (36:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (36:32):
You've you know you've even said that.
SPEAKER_04 (36:33):
Yeah and but there's there's people who believe
though that like that like youcan like like I and I believe
the same theory too that likeyou can choose to like you can
go away for you like you can oryou could you like any point in
time you could be like ah I'mgonna go back.
SPEAKER_02 (36:48):
And then you could stay hang out for a little while
or you'll be told that left thebeach and then it's like uh it's
been like uh they'll be like youknow I don't know how long time
doesn't exist so I don't yeahexactly I'm done all right let's
go back I'm tired of this cardtoo it could be the person that
you run into or the that you seeon the other side they'll say to
you you're not supposed to behere the belief also is that
(37:10):
time doesn't exist and that youcan go in any point in time go
back.
SPEAKER_04 (37:14):
Ooh like like like like the universe is and and
time is like one static thingand you just go and you're just
playing point A to B at thispoint in time at this place.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah so that's that's one of thetheories.
So like you know it's like Icome back and I think I'm gonna
I'm gonna go into a dystopianfuture or maybe I'll go to the
(37:35):
Renaissance or the the uh uhancient Rome.
SPEAKER_02 (37:42):
They're saying the universe is like a web is trying
they're figuring out therethere's more to it that we
understand where there's so manydifferent connections and so
many different ways.
You know who's you know what weshould do an episode on?
SPEAKER_04 (37:52):
We should do an episode on Bashar.
On who?
Bashar.
There's a guy he channels hesupposedly he channels like an
alien and he always comes upwith this things like oh you're
all living at the same like likeone of the theories is is like
that that you're all that likeyou do live several lives okay
but it's not reincarnation.
You're living them all at thesame time.
Stop different periods of time.
(38:13):
Oh so like so it's a multiverse.
Yeah yeah it's like a multiverselike like you go like like but
they say there is one thoughlike you're saying that you have
an option you're choosing tolike live like 20 life sets at
the same time at differentpoints in time.
Wow.
And then you sync them back upwhen you when you What?
SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
See I've never heard of it.
See that's a different ver nowthat's another version of the
idea believes.
SPEAKER_02 (38:35):
But I heard that there is multiverses where we do
have another copy of yourself ina different timeline or the same
timeline but in a differentuniverse.
Right?
Right?
It could be a little bitdifferent than what you are now
maybe non negative in a as faras what infinite or positive
there's infinite it just goes onand on and on.
Yeah you know like Neo how manytimes did they have to make Neo?
(38:57):
How many times did Neo have tocome back before you actually
figured it out?
Well just for him alone he wasthree times religious references
and when he went in front of thewhen he went in front of the the
architect the architect it was alot more than that.
SPEAKER_04 (39:12):
No I think was it or was it that it was he kept
showing it this one here therewere many different versions and
every TV that was back there hada different version of what I
think that was the architectbecause he the way the architect
thinks is he thinks in amultiverse his his mind is you
know what his mind is like aquantum processor.
He comes up with a milliondifferent things at the same
(39:32):
time different solutions.
What the architect is a quantumprocessor.
Oh because the quantum processorcomes up with a million
different versions and comes upwith the best answer.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (39:43):
And Neo is an anomaly.
Yeah which is random notsupposed to happen but it does
and for some reason he's able todo the opposite of what the
architect has said the laws bythe architect should be
happening and he's like no Idon't he goes by his own rules.
But eventually it took him timeto get there.
That makes sense right thatmakes sense.
(40:04):
So I can dig it squirely coolstuff but there's so many I just
think that the one thing I dofeel confident about is that
there is something else but it'sbigger than what we can fathom.
You know what I mean?
Which explains why when peopledo have them and they come back
most of the time hopefully goodthey have crazy their life
(40:27):
changes for the positive.
You know they take a differentlook at it and go, oh wow just
you know because they had a aprofound experience spiritual
experience.
You know and then you know notreally just spiritual which is
totally opposite.
Right.
You can be both but you know onedoes not cancel out the other.
(40:48):
So I think that's interesting.
For sure man just to you knowyou come back and then you know
your life was whether you youknow had an accident or
something and they came back oryou saw yourself the stories of
people driving and they'll be inthe in the ambulance and they're
right above it going to thehospital or whatever.
You know it's just so with me Ibelieve there is definitely
(41:09):
something beyond this and youknow we'll get there I'm with
you.
We'll I'll be if I it's me firstI'll be waiting for you to
hanging out and then I'll greetyou guys.
Yeah.
Hell yeah definitely andhopefully when we're going we
can smoke weed I'll be thereanything's allowed it'll be
(41:30):
better than we'll probably waybetter.
You probably you won't even needit.
SPEAKER_04 (41:34):
Yeah yeah yeah just be like I'll just upload you the
City exactly the move you won'teven need it because you'll be
in a place where it's notnecessary.
SPEAKER_01 (41:43):
Yeah exactly yeah euphoria exactly in a totally
peaceful realm that is greatwhere oh and you're happy and
you're comfy and you're relaxedand in the zone argument in the
afterlife like Minecraft youcould just build whatever you
just imagine whatever you wantbro you go see whoever you want
when you're ready to think ofthem imagine you're out there
(42:05):
right you think of somebodywhile you're there they pop up
however it works and boom you'reright there you're oh what's
going on yeah so and so yeah Ihaven't seen you you know uh huh
well I mean what do you hear itnow too I mean think about it
you know because I'm that guyrock and roll heaven must have
one hell of a rock and rock facefurly just recently yeah you
know so now here's somethinginteresting before the show ends
(42:27):
I here's a concept that Ithought about so now I was
adopted right I was brought upJewish but didn't follow it I
wound up going my own way andbelieving things differently and
thinking the universe is youknow the connections that way
and everything.
SPEAKER_02 (42:42):
And then I always awesome you know when people say
someone's always greeted themright yeah or they meet somebody
well I had my mom and dad whowere my mom and dad from growing
up adopted from the day I wasborn two days old right it's
your parents but then I had myother parents I used to say that
somebody from that side that whoI have never met came and
(43:02):
greeted me and the weird thingwould be is that you would know
who it was you felt kind ofcomfortable whatever it was
because how crazy is that I'mthinking that in my head I'm
like how's that gonna work?
Would that happen?
Yeah you never met this personor spoke to him nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
Yeah and then they show up for that calmness to be
like you're like oh you're nowyou're so and so yeah that would
be sick you know that's how mymind works no no no no that's a
good one that was a good mindwork right there bro fuck around
that was some good shit rightthere well shit we'll end on
that good groove thank you forhanging out with us today on the
Día de los Muertos hopeeverybody celebrated it because
(43:38):
we've you know well everybodythat does that they celebrated
had a great day and whatnot andyou know everything was cool
peace and copestetic and thankyou for joining us have a good
one love peace and hair greaselive long and prosper and
celebrate
Hello and welcome to Copman Crow, the Jersey Guy
Podcast, also CC and NJ guy.
SPEAKER_04 (00:14):
What's going on, everyone?
What's that?
So we our last episode we talkedabout Sierra Killers, but it was
also recorded on The Day of theDead.
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
Kenny, can you please help us because we'll
screw it up?
That's how you say it in aspice.
SPEAKER_03 (00:31):
We uh we're gonna have an episode, even though
it's past that date.
Uh, we're gonna have an episodeabout that.
SPEAKER_02 (00:36):
Yeah, we're actually on the date.
We're on the date, no, no, well,yeah, but when it's released.
I know.
SPEAKER_01 (00:40):
But you'll hear it post a few days later.
Well, so here's the thing.
So it's not there's a fewdifferent cultures that
celebrate it differently.
So it's from December 30th, Imean maybe December.
Wow, November?
Yeah, for real.
From October from Nov October31st, 30 yeah, 31st, all the way
until November 2nd.
God that's when differentcultures celebrate.
So we're still in the yeah,we're still right in there, you
(01:04):
know.
They're all in the in thevicinity.
Yeah, no, no.
So like Mexico is November 2nd.
Well, Mexico is actually the31st to November 2nd.
Philippines, Philippines isNovember 1st and the 2nd.
Brazil is November 2nd, Haiti isthe first and the second.
So, you know, Japan.
Oh, Japan has it too.
But theirs is in August,Ireland.
(01:26):
Wow.
Yeah, there's a whole bunch ofdifferent ones that that you
know, okay.
And and it's crazy because Iguess I didn't even think about
it being called that orrepresenting the same thing.
You know, I knew about thosecertain things, but I didn't
know that that's what they werecelebrating, if that makes
sense.
SPEAKER_04 (01:41):
But the one that most people refer to is the the
one from Mexico.
Yeah, and and the a veryspecific style of makeup.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
The skeleton, the whiteskeleton, and it's but it's not
like just like black and white.
It's a lot more colorful.
Yes.
Uh I think the colors aresupposed to be symbolic probably
of something.
(02:01):
Right.
If you guys want to look thatup.
But the they use that specificstyle and it's to honor the the
dead.
It's not about uh anythingspooky or scary, actually.
It's it's actually a a date tolike right isn't that what to
honor like the people who passedaway, like you know, pay homage
to them and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01 (02:19):
It's not a bad day, right?
SPEAKER_04 (02:20):
No, it's not like a spooky or mourning.
SPEAKER_02 (02:22):
I guess it could be with some people in certain
areas.
I mean, even if they're in thesame way, I'm sure there's a
dark side to it as well.
SPEAKER_04 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:30):
You know.
SPEAKER_04 (02:32):
But it's always looked at like a like a positive
type of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:35):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, no, no.
Uh it's it's it's like you said,you know, it's it's uh paying
homage to the people, you know,who have passed away, your
family members.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Just that's pretty much it.
And like you said, yeah, thecolors used on masks and in face
paint for the day of the deadcarry specific symbolic meanings
uh rooted in the tradition.
(02:57):
So the vibrant colors.
So like yellow and orange arethe curr colours prominently
features in the marangoldflowers represent the sun, the
light, unity.
Right.
Red is uh represents thephysical existence that sustains
the body and the soul.
Purple signifies mourning,grief, suffering, and pain.
Yeah, so everything I mean, butI it's like anything else.
You know, w this isn't comingfrom I think that's one thing
(03:20):
too I want to say first.
Dia de los muertos, you know,Day of the Dead, that's not a
movie.
It's it's there, you know, it'spart of the religion.
It's part it's a good thing.
It's just, you know, showingthanks and love to people who
have passed.
You know, it's not celebratingthe devil.
It's not, you know, drawing a uhpentagram on the floor and
whatever on the wall and killingchickens and shit like that.
(03:42):
That's not what this is about.
Not, you know, it's nothing likethat.
Everybody and anybody can takeit and make it something that
it's not, you know what I'msaying?
But this is something, you know,it's a celebration.
It's supposed to, you know, justbe happy that uh, you know, our
ancestors have moved on tosomeplace better than where we
are now.
You know what I'm saying?
That they're that they're happy,that they're relaxed, that
they're at peace, you know.
(04:04):
Uh heaven, if you will.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's the whole idea.
You know, that that's the daythat they come back kind of
thing.
They don't come back, I don'twant to say they come back to
life, but you know, that there'syou know, that they come and
they celebrate with us, if youwill, you know?
That we're celebrating theirmemory.
Like that's the whole I get thatyeah.
That's the whole idea.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:22):
I have something that I would like to to uh close
up on that I think is kind ofsimilar to that because it it
turns to be to be a good thingat when it comes to an end of
it.
So the show that we watched, uhErie Hall on Netflix.
Yes.
Okay, so at the end of thatseries, he winds up confronting
it at some point because he getsattacked in the shower and he's
(04:45):
pinned down and everything, andhe decides I gotta figure out
who this guy is.
He he actually gets to the pointwhere he gets in touch with his
father, and his father comes upwith him and they go for a r a
run together.
And they find this plaque whereeverywhere he runs all the time,
and this is the first time theyfind this plaque.
And this plaque is to a soldierthat was killed at Naspa by
(05:09):
Indians in the RevolutionaryWar.
SPEAKER_01 (05:12):
Gotcha.
SPEAKER_02 (05:13):
Right?
So he goes and he faces off withhim and he talks tries to, you
know.
He doesn't know that yet though.
He finds out later on.
He finds that out later on.
SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
Oh, no.
SPEAKER_02 (05:22):
Right, yeah, he just knows all right, this is a
soldier, so he doesn't know outuntil later on.
It turns out his mother has arelation on her side to the
person who died in the woods.
So he's trying to find somepeace, so he helped him get he
finally, yeah, he told him hecouldn't do this anymore.
You know, he faced up to him andeverything and got him to
(05:43):
because the guy wasn't in peacebecause he was tortured and he
was murdered when he wastortured by the Indians and and
he just couldn't move on forwhatever reason.
He was stuck and he somehow thethe great thing about the thing
is is that they were connectedsomehow.
SPEAKER_01 (05:57):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (05:58):
And that was the weird thing.
And he figured it out.
He didn't even know it untilthat scene later on, too.
He didn't know it right away.
Right.
They found it out later on.
That's crazy.
Yeah, see that.
But it turned out to be a goodthing, though.
Yeah.
Well, they got it.
In a sense, in a sense.
In a sense.
I mean, they were torturedpretty much.
SPEAKER_01 (06:16):
That's the idea, you know, like things like that.
It's good stories like that, youknow.
Like I said, that you that theother little muertos, that
that's the day, you know.
I said it's that thing.
It's, you know, some people thatthey're able to help out the
spirits that, you know, maybenot, you know, ancestors that
got stuck or whatever, you know,they didn't run out the door
fast enough or whatever, andthey missed the light and shit,
you know.
Stuff like that, that happens.
(06:37):
But it's it's a it's a it's asuper celebration, bro.
Like we said, you know, you gotparades, you know, the costumes.
It must be incredible, man.
Well, you know, from us growingup in the city, and I'm sure you
may, I mean, no, you know you'veseen it.
I don't think I've never beenable to go.
I've owed the Halloween parade.
The Halloween parade down in thevillage.
In the city.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (06:56):
No, I don't think I've ever done that.
I would like to, though.
SPEAKER_04 (07:00):
It's a night parade, yeah.
People have like sometimes bigthese big giant puppets.
Kiss have done it a couple oftimes, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01 (07:07):
They did, bro.
They did it back in the 70s,yeah.
70s, and I think they're notgoing to be able to get it.
No, I did late even later on.
Did it in the 80s, too?
I remember the.
Even 90s, I think.
Maybe, yeah.
I remember them coming in thatlate.
But no, you might be right.
You're not going to be able todo that.
SPEAKER_04 (07:18):
If if like Gene Simmons, like him dressed as in
costume.
That's what they did.
That's what they did.
They didn't and like incognitobe like, oh, that's a really
good kiss costume.
Oh, that would be funny.
I wouldn't have to be a goodidea.
Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (07:30):
Yeah, when they did it years ago, like Lou Saying,
they did.
They came in costume.
All the time they came incostume.
No, but it would be funny.
But then nobody looked like justnobody knew that was.
Yeah, and then people like, it'sreally you.
That's hilarious, man.
That is so freaking funny.
(07:51):
Yeah, that would be cool,though.
I would love to.
But, anyways, like I said, it'sthe celebration.
Like I said, depending on whereyou are, depending on on, you
know, and like we said, I wastelling you guys before, the
different colors that meandifferent things.
You know, and and you know, it'sI think it's one of those things
where you don't really pay inany mind.
Because now, you know, I wasthinking about this the other
(08:11):
day.
I'm driving on the highway, andyou know, there's a few spots on
the highway where you see peoplehave their crosses and stuff
like that for people who havepassed away and stuff.
Same idea.
You know what I'm saying?
It's literally the same idea.
Just not and not holiday.
Right.
Well, it's on the specific day,but it's not to the same, it's
not like a parade, you know, butit's still it's paying homage to
(08:32):
the people that, you know,passed away that are sitting
there and whatnot, you know.
In cemetery.
You go and you put up the, youknow, you put flowers on the
tombstone or candles and youknow, leave a bottle of whiskey
or whatever.
Yeah, or a rock or somethinglike that.
Right.
Well, you know, that's actuallymore of a European thing.
SPEAKER_04 (08:47):
It is.
That's what the rock is true.
I remember we talked about that.
What do you do with Europe?
SPEAKER_02 (08:51):
Yeah, because when a lot of people that came from
Europe, whether Polish, Germany,um anywhere really, that was a a
symbolic thing of it.
But uh but if Jews are do it alot as well.
They you know and that goesagain because their ancestors
came from Europe and they'rehere, so old traditions and
things that people listen, youknow, do.
But that's actually that's agood thing too.
SPEAKER_04 (09:10):
But it's rock is seen also because it's like a
permanent thing.
It's not like a flower thatdies.
It's supposed to be like youknow, like Yeah.
But wasn't it supposed to likebe that you you visited that
someone visited or somethinglike that?
SPEAKER_02 (09:23):
Yeah, I would say it just do to let them know that
you were there.
Is really you know what it wasabout.
At least that's what I was told.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know?
That's another couple of rock.
Yeah, here's another thing thatwe had to do.
SPEAKER_04 (09:33):
How messed up is it?
Does you ever you think somepeople take rocks off of them
and put them on someone else'smessed up?
No, I wouldn't put that.
I think that would be on curbyour enthusiasm.
SPEAKER_02 (09:44):
I would think that that that would be effed up, and
I'm sure I would hope thatpeople wouldn't, but I have to
say that probably someone did.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you have insults.
Yeah.
I could picture Larry Daviddoing that.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that would make a thatwould make a good episode.
Yeah, it would, huh?
Actually, I don't know.
He may have thought of it andsaid, uh, maybe that's the
material.
SPEAKER_04 (09:59):
You don't know it's missing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Really?
Are they gonna come and check?
Yeah, I forgot.
I forgot.
And then it would be like, I wasmissing a rock.
SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Larry, you know?
That is too freaking hilarious,man.
Yeah.
But yeah, like I said, did youfind what you were looking for?
SPEAKER_02 (10:19):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
Okay.
Like I said, you know, so nowI'm gonna be stand corrected in
the part of the welcomingspirits.
Families welcome the souls oftheir oh no, I was right.
Okay.
Families welcome the souls oftheir deceased relatives back
for a brief reunion on November1st and 2nd.
They build oferendas that's uhofferings.
Like, you know, like they'llleave, like I said, you know,
leave have alcohol or like theirfavorite food for whichever one
(10:42):
that, you know, you know,whatever family member you're
you're paying homage to.
You know, whichever ones arethere.
If you know, like, you know,five of your family members that
had passed, and you know, oneliked rice, the other liked, you
know, whiskey or whatever, youput those offerings out there so
that they're sitting, you know,have that.
SPEAKER_04 (10:56):
Oh, so like their favorite foods and stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (10:57):
Yeah, stuff like that, all the cigars and shit.
SPEAKER_02 (11:00):
I know people have brought like tequila or whatever
the drink was and just pour iton the drink for me.
SPEAKER_01 (11:05):
Just put a nice uh blue woman.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
What's that growing around thetombstone?
Oh no, honey.
So I don't know if you ever putthat yellow that's hilarious,
bro.
Yeah, like throw it on the rightgrave.
Yeah.
Oh, that would be freakinginsane.
But I wouldn't be pre-made, soI'm not sweating on that shit.
But no, dude.
(11:25):
So, hush, and I lost what I wasgonna say.
That's freaking funny as hell.
Yeah, I did, bro.
I did.
Yeah, but anyways, it's like yousaid, just you know, all those
little offerings and things likethat.
But you were saying now thatpeople bring certain things to
the grave to thanks, orremembrance, or so back in the
day, I don't know if you guysever did it, but you know, it
was like uh everybody would tapthe bottle before we opened a
(11:46):
bottle of 40, you know, ofwhatever beer and stuff we were
drinking, and then they'll like,you know, pour some out for my
homies before pour a little bitout for the for those who have
passed or no longer here with usor whatever.
SPEAKER_04 (11:56):
Every time I hear someone say that, I think.
Well, we just do it.
We would do mostly like a post.
SPEAKER_01 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, suck with a 40 in hishand.
Yeah.
No, no, you're right.
You know, that too.
That too.
You know, hey, too.
So and so.
But you know, you would pour itout for people or whatever
because you do so.
I know about that as well.
Yeah.
It's the same idea, differentculture.
You know, except right, but I'mjust saying, like, you know, it
well, yeah, that way differentculture, like as far as
different.
And that's what makes itinteresting.
And that's why it's wild becauseyou know, so so far, anything
(12:25):
that I've ever looked up, heardof, you know, in in
myancestry.com shit, it's neverbeen anything where it was, like
I said, it wasn't anythingsatanic.
I'm talking about like the dayto day.
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't like that.
Like, I want to keep saying thatshit because I don't want to be
a good idea.
I know because people take that.
Like, oh, that's satanic.
SPEAKER_04 (12:44):
There's a lot of weird especially old world
cultures.
Because Mexico pulls from oldworld culture.
Right.
There's a lot of old worldreligious culture stuff that's
just really weird and creepy.
Right.
That people think is if you toldthem, it'd be like like like
relics.
Like, oh yeah, there's a there'sa decapitated head of a saint in
a cathedral.
And like when I went to like acathedral when I was in Italy,
(13:06):
and they just have like adecapitated head of a saint.
It's called a relic.
And yeah, and and and thenanother church will have that
saint's hand in it or something.
They like cut the bodies apartand keep the body parts in like
that's weird.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04 (13:19):
And you would think that that's don't they also bury
them in or underneath theVatican?
Well, I know they do have likecrypt.
Like a tomb of cryptography,right?
I don't know.
Isn't there like a certain thingfor like popes that they have to
do?
No, but not necessarily saints,but saints they say, they say in
in like I think like they doweird shit.
Like if you dig up a body andit's hasn't decomposed, they're
(13:40):
like, oh, it's a saint.
Oh, really?
I thought it was so.
But actually, a lot of that hasto do with where they're buried.
Like if there's like a lot oflimestone and and water filters
and filters of the lime, itactually preserves the body and
stuff.
Really?
Yeah, they've they've found outlike it's my.
There it is.
SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
There it is.
Well, again, well, but so it'sthe same idea.
Because even look at that, younever so you know, Catholic
religion, you know, they'resuper strict on a lot of their
stuff, you know, to you know,bury and everything else with it
and how they do their stuff.
So that then, you know, Day ofthe Dead, you know, that's they
look some Catholics might lookat it a little bit different
because of what they believe Dayof the Dead is, or what it would
(14:16):
be that's why they say theyassume to say that.
That's why I keep saying it'snot a satanic day.
I didn't think it was.
SPEAKER_04 (14:22):
I don't have my phone because it's recording,
but maybe there is actuallysomeone else to actually they
dig up the bodies.
Yeah, that's out in the case.
Is that like Thailand or uhBurba?
Or on Day of the Dead?
They actually dig the bodies.
Why do they dig that?
And they walk around with paradewith them, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:39):
No, no, no.
Yeah, yes.
Remind me not to give them.
SPEAKER_04 (14:44):
Yeah, but no, no.
It's one like Laos or or I Idon't know.
One of the one of the reasonthey know that there's no reason
they think it is.
SPEAKER_01 (14:53):
It's Thailand, one of those Yo Luda was fucking
hilarious, bro.
SPEAKER_04 (14:58):
One of the one of the South Pacific cultures that
make up the body.
SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
So you look it up now or interesting thing for me
growing up in Judaism.
Right.
Because we're never again, weweren't ultra religious, but we
did follow certain things thatwere supposedly the way so when
someone passes away, you know,you you throw dirt on the grave,
right?
And then when you come home,there's a container of water or
(15:24):
something out there for you towash your hands.
Right.
Don't bring death home with you,but don't bring it in the house.
Yes, yes, yeah.
Before you go into the house.
SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Right.
Yes.
unknown (15:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (15:34):
I always thought that was cool as hell.
I yeah.
Interesting concept because, youknow, like I didn't why but
think of the time it came from,right?
And they just continue to use itbecause it's part of the fabric
and how long it's been with it.
Yeah, man.
You know, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (15:47):
Yeah.
And and and that's some it'sjust so many things, places,
cultures that you never thoughtof that do this.
You know what I mean?
And you know, think about it.
When we sit and we're justtalking regular stuff and we're
talking about somebody who haspassed, you know, that's us
paying homage, if you will,telling that funny story or that
fucked up story either way, buttelling that story of that
(16:10):
person that's passed and, youknow, sharing that moment with
others.
Same idea.
Yeah.
On a larger scale, you know, iswhat they do on day of the dead.
It's in Indonesia, bro.
Yeah.
So Wallace Sulawa Sulawesi,Indonesia, is where they do.
Indonesia.
Indonesia.
Yeah, where they turn around andthey uh yeah, I'm good.
Yeah.
(16:30):
They dang up the bodies.
No, I'm good.
Yeah, they bring the body.
It's not a festivity or a hobbyI would like to get into.
Yep.
And it's crazy because when theywrap them up, it's like old
school mummy stuff.
You know, if you wrap them upjust right, you know, they're
basically preserved.
SPEAKER_02 (16:44):
Do they wrap them up that way when they first die,
I'm assuming, right?
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then every year they digthem up, they dig them up.
They dig them up and they unwrapthem and then wrap them.
Uh-huh.
And they bring them in, they putthem in their favorite chair,
like they'll light cigarettesfor them and shit like that.
Don't you mouth?
SPEAKER_02 (16:58):
Haven't you ever seen the old school pictures of
people?
Even in this country, back inthe day where they would have
the funerals in the house, orthey would take pictures with
the dead before they buried.
Like they were actually sittingwith them and taking pictures.
The black and white, you knowwhat I'm talking about.
Yeah.
No, you've seen them, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (17:14):
I hate it.
I I that was a thing too thatused to be morbid.
People used to do the funeralsin their homes.
That used to be very popular.
I think some people I thinkstill might do it, but it used
to be done back in the day.
I think back.
It's morbid, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
Wait, but I think that was more because of they
all lived like out in the middleof West Bubblefuck.
Uh- You know what I'm saying?
So then it was a mission to getto the church.
The same thing, but think aboutit, bro.
Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (17:36):
I'm not saying that it was probably just easy to do
it.
They wouldn't have regulationsback then to do that shit.
Right, yeah, it was whatever.
You could mean house.
SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:42):
Because I mean I guess.
This is a time where fire exitsand fucking buildings were
locked up and chained that youcan get out.
SPEAKER_01 (17:47):
They can get in, right?
Yeah.
You know?
But it was like, you know, Isaid people would they like live
on the farms or they just livedup in the mountains or whatever.
So they would send the word out,you know, listen, you know,
so-and-so passed, you know,we're gonna have the the the
viewing or whatever on such sucha date and come over, you know.
They go to the house.
And they go to the house.
Same thing like, you know, theother way around when they were
born.
People were two, three years oldbefore they actually made it
(18:09):
down the mountain or, you know,to the hospitals and shit, you
know, coming from almostanywhere.
My my great aunt, rest in peace,she was born in the mountains of
Puerto Rico, and she was like, Ithink three, four, five years
old.
By the time they actuallybrought her down, that they came
down to make their trip downinto town, and they were
actually able to get her a birthcertificate.
(18:29):
So when we're thinking that shepassed away like 105 years old,
she was probably like 115.
You know what I'm saying?
Like she was like, you know whatI mean?
It's just one of those things.
Because I mean, but again, backin the day, there was no reason
to have to come into town assuch.
You know, everybody wasbasically self-sustaining.
You know, you had your farm, youhad your livestock, you had
whatever.
The doctor would have to rideout to your house to go and do
(18:51):
the little house in the prairieshit.
Right, exactly.
Instead, I would just turnaround and like.
SPEAKER_02 (18:54):
But yeah, but still it's so giving me though.
That's fine.
All that shit's good, but thefact that you're t you're
sitting them in chairs andyou're taking pictures of the.
That's the part I was sayingthat's so goddamn morbid.
SPEAKER_01 (19:07):
Not a morbid, bro.
That shit.
But again, we're not trying toknock anybody's religious.
No, no, no, no.
That has nothing cultural.
That has nothing to do withreligion.
For me, well, uh yeah, culture,religion.
That's what they get.
SPEAKER_02 (19:17):
Yeah, but I don't think there's I don't believe
well, not any religion thatdon't they smell?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think there'sanything in any r religion that
we know of.
Talking about people who livedin this country or came from all
the day.
Oh, sorry, but you know, youknow, we're not talking about
fucking other.
I'm talking about here, like oldschool pictures of people taking
pictures of passed away.
(19:37):
Yeah, they still do that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:38):
People still do that shit.
SPEAKER_04 (19:39):
I yeah, remember I've seen that happen in
someone's house before and theylike had pictures of like Yeah,
people get in their casket.
I'm like, why?
Out of frame, too, which is evenweirder.
SPEAKER_02 (19:50):
The pictures that you already have of them.
SPEAKER_04 (19:52):
Why do you need the pictures?
SPEAKER_02 (19:53):
Not enough, but you need to have the one with them
in the coffin.
Why?
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
Yeah, nope.
That's what I'm with.
SPEAKER_02 (19:58):
That's the last thing that's why for me I
already know that one, I don'twant to be I don't believe in an
open casket anyway, because ofhow I was brought up.
Right.
See, there are certain things wegrab with us that you kind of
stick to when it comes towhatever you were brought up
with, right?
I don't want to see it, and Idon't like going to those to
viewings or at all.
You know, usually I don't go inthe room.
They have to be really close tothe family to the point where
(20:20):
I'll walk in.
I don't kneel at the thing, uhyou know, at the I don't do any
of that.
SPEAKER_04 (20:26):
Well, if I don't know the person that died, I
don't think that's it.
SPEAKER_02 (20:28):
Yeah, I usually don't go in the room.
Yeah, I don't have to go in theroom.
SPEAKER_04 (20:31):
You know, because a lot of times you're uh you're
going just to you know payrespect to the person to the
people of the family.
SPEAKER_02 (20:36):
Right.
That's what it's about.
SPEAKER_04 (20:37):
It's about the family now.
It's not about him.
SPEAKER_03 (20:39):
I'll walk past the skip, but I don't know how you
don't know them.
SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
It's weird.
That's weird.
SPEAKER_04 (20:43):
Like am I gonna walk up to the casket and be like, I
missed it.
SPEAKER_02 (20:47):
That's the whole three-day thing about you know
Christ.
SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
But I'll go to I'll go and I'll you know, say, you
know, pay my respects to family,saying I came to your, you know,
I came to the week and you know,whatever.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
Show you face there, you know.
But hey, like you said earlier,see each other.
You know what I mean?
This is what you were, you know.
Yeah, you know, the and this iswhat you brought up with, this
is what you do.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For me, it was like good.
SPEAKER_04 (21:11):
I'm good.
Yeah, I don't want any.
I like this version of it,though.
I don't want my body on a view.
No.
I already told everybody.
First of all, I don't even wantto.
I don't want a funeral home,nothing.
I'm just gonna be cremated.
But you you know, uh what is it?
Uh what is it called?
We had a memorial for you.
That was it called of life.
Celebration of life.
SPEAKER_02 (21:32):
That's the way to party, bro.
So if anything happens, yeah, Itold my kids the same thing.
I said I uh my wife as well.
I said, I just want people tocome and hang and talk about the
good memories.
Talk and laugh and cry and dowhatever it is, and have my
music on.
Get the DJ going.
Right, and have the music onthat I liked and all that shit.
Yeah, no, that's what I'msaying.
All music that we all liked, ofcourse, not just mine, but
(21:54):
certain shit.
SPEAKER_04 (21:56):
If they're gonna play music that I liked, it's
all about like dark shit.
I listen to dark wave, it's likeabout it.
SPEAKER_01 (22:03):
Simon and Gotham, who maybe like dark sense.
I listen to dark wave.
Put an urn with your ashes, likeyou put the urn over there, and
then in the in the middle of themusic.
SPEAKER_04 (22:13):
Maybe one of the bands I listen to, the name is
She Passed Away.
You see, well, you're not a she,so you passed away.
SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
He passed away.
No, no, but you turn around andyou have your urn there playing
the music, and all of a suddensomebody hit Tink, tink, tink.
SPEAKER_02 (22:25):
Here's something interesting, right?
SPEAKER_01 (22:27):
Oh, don't give me any idea.
SPEAKER_04 (22:28):
Yeah, I'm just saying, hold on, look, so go
ahead.
No, if they were to have mycasket, you gotta get a
Bluetooth speaker of my ownvoice going, they already had
that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
That's all I'm gonna say.
It's an Irish wedding, Ibelieve.
You know, they were putting inthe casket.
And he had a thing.
He did it on purpose.
Yeah, the guy was getting putdown into the state.
He's like, hey, wait, I'm notready yet.
No way.
And people just started laughingwhile they're standing over the
grid.
He did it on purpose.
He did it on purpose.
He had one of his friends, youknow.
That's awesome, man.
Yeah, man, it's hilarious.
(22:58):
I'm sorry, Luca, you were gonnasay that.
I totally was uh thought theother one, too, was somebody
else was telling me they saidthat they wanted to have a bunch
of like men in black kind ofthing, like you know, big ma,
like just not Italian mafia,just you know like big
gangster-looking dudes walkingin.
They're like, sorry, you know,thanks, boss.
You were a great boss.
All right, uh, have a good one.
And then walk out and make themlook like.
(23:19):
I'm talking about how culturesare, right?
SPEAKER_02 (23:20):
So culturally, they say if you have a near-death
experience, yeah.
What happens at the tennis,whatever you grew up with, what
church, you know, if you went tochurch and you believed in
Christ or whatever it was, isthe version of what or similar
to those that lane as far as howyour near-death experience could
be.
Because they I read a thingwhere like atheists just have a
(23:41):
light.
Right you still see a light,they just go, they don't have
anything that they believe in.
Right.
So but they're near thatexperience, it's just a light.
We have people Roman Catholic orJudaism or whatever it is,
Hindu, right?
They experience that.
So it's funny how they followthat from life to death, meaning
when they go to church, they seeit, they bury people that way,
and then they wind up havingthat ex most likely having that
(24:03):
kind of experience when theypass away.
Right.
Which is interesting as well.
I always think, oh, what kind ofmind would I have?
Yeah.
You know?
Not that I want to know anytimesoon.
But then I think it wouldprobably be I think it'd be more
like towards the atheist side orsomewhere in the middle.
SPEAKER_01 (24:17):
Well, i it would be one of those things of what it
is that you feel for that lastminute.
Because you know, so it's theit's your last thoughts, is what
it is that you probably the waythey referenced it was about how
you were brought up.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
You were brought up a certain way, nine times out of
ten, you would lean that way,that's what you believed.
And that was the the after deathyou saw Christ, you went some,
you know, however that isusually in that lane.
So if you were if you had areligion of you were Judaism,
you kind of went a differentdirection.
But you still had a you knowthat an atheist didn't really
have anything except for light,like a ball of light.
(24:52):
They still went somewhere, butthey they went where their
mindset or how they lived life.
Yeah.
There wasn't bad or wrong orright.
It's just everybody goes thereregardless.
Yeah.
It's just their version of it.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Everybody's version isdifferent.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:06):
And then probably there's other stuff too, I would
assume.
Like Yeah, like they say you seefamily members, you know,
absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (25:10):
Well, yeah, then of course you're with whoever you
are.
And also you get the viewingwhere you view, you view your
life, and you're the person whothe judges.
SPEAKER_00 (25:20):
Ooh.
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
You have to fe they say you feel whatever the view
is, you feel everything thathappened in your life over
again.
Yeah.
You know what's kind of messedup.
SPEAKER_04 (25:28):
My um one of my friends growing up, his uh
father was dying of cancer orwhatever, and he said that his
like the last he he told me likeit was two days before his dad
died, that like he was lookingout the window from his kitchen
and saw his dead father andbrother sitting on top of the
shed or the garage roof.
Whoa.
Oh, that's crazy.
(25:48):
And then two days later he died.
From the you know, from So Dadsaid he saw that.
Yeah.
Wow.
Dad who died.
Yeah.
Oh no way.
SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
That's kind of crazy.
Yeah, that's when you know it'scoming, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (26:04):
Well, they say, you know, people who who are in
hospice and things like that.
That's kind of they startominous, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (26:09):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_02 (26:10):
They see they have people who see certain people
before they go, right?
Or they have something they needto get done before they pass
away, before they can go.
They're dying.
They're gonna die.
But they're kind of the ones whoare holding on because they got
something they need to take careof.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
And that happens too.
That's also when you know thatcould happen.
And then once you do, whetherit's that person or whatever it
(26:32):
is, you know, and then when it'sdone, usually you're gone.
Yeah.
You know, you're out.
Yeah.
He was a you know, so and so.
He needed he saw so and so andwhatever.
Or was something else that theyhad to take care of or has
something to do with a brotheror something.
Who knows?
You know, there's a book aboutit that's really good.
So that I read that hadinteresting stories like that.
(26:54):
You know, it's like, that'scrazy.
SPEAKER_01 (26:56):
Yeah, you know.
I that's what I'm saying.
I think that, you know, I I I Ihear what you're saying, I agree
with you, you know, what yousaid before about, you know,
people going and what theirreligion is or, you know, what
they believe.
But I'm almost wondering if atthat last moment that because
you your your your fear of whatthe afterlife would be, if
that's what you would turnaround and that was like your
(27:18):
last thought.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I would say, like so forme, because I'm that guy.
SPEAKER_02 (27:22):
So, you know, what my violent death is what you're
saying.
SPEAKER_01 (27:25):
Oh, I could, you know what I'm saying?
Not that I'm gonna die ofviolent death, but that's just
what I'm gonna see, like who itis I'm gonna see on the other
side, right?
If it's gonna be that familymember, is it gonna be that I'm
gonna see my life flashingbefore my eyes?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, like you know what I'msaying, I think that that's what
your mind becomes.
SPEAKER_02 (27:40):
The common thread is what they say.
They see you kind of see aviewing of your life from the
time from the beginning to end.
And you feel everything that'shappening that you already had
done, but it's like super it'slike you're in a different
place, a different time.
The way it's described, it'slike it doesn't take long, it
happens.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
And then you're out.
You go wherever.
(28:01):
There's no like for instance,people who commit suicide, like
we were talking earlier, right?
Eventually they see the lightand they come out of it.
You know, they but in thebeginning, sometimes it's dark.
Sometimes it's not, sometimesit's they see the light right
away.
Yeah, okay.
Right, right, right.
Again, it depends on thatperson.
(28:22):
Or what what's going on or whathappened in their life to the
point that they needed to dothat.
Right, right, right.
Some bounce back from it andtake a positive from it.
Hopefully, if it's a positiveexperience, they take that and
then they their lives putthey're advocates for suicide.
You know, you know, not to havesuicide, but to prevent suicide,
I should say.
Um, you know, a lot of peoplehave positive it's just funny
(28:43):
how that certain things couldhappen.
You know, I I I want to you knowwe always hear the positive one
about when someone passes away.
Oh, they seen this, they wentthrough a tunnel, they saw their
own, but it wasn't their time.
They go through certain things,boom, and they're back.
Right.
Kind of thing.
Right.
Right.
You know.
Well what about those people whowho prov you know uh created
their death, you know, did it.
(29:05):
What did they experience?
Yeah.
You know, what was the outcomeof that?
Was it someplace did they gosomewhere that was not good?
You know, some people said theydid.
They went to a place that waslike super dark and lonely and
nothing.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You know, like but you know, butgot out of it fortunately.
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying.
There's always two sides.
We always kind of focus on theone.
Oh wow, that's crazy.
(29:26):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's positive because youwant to hear that one better.
But it's curious to know aboutis there anyone who has had
negative experiences?
I think.
Yeah.
That's what's so interestingabout death and you know, we're
on the day of the dead we'retalking about that.
SPEAKER_04 (29:40):
So it's funny, it's become like a life after death
episode a little bit.
Right.
A little bit.
SPEAKER_01 (29:45):
Well, because it basically is.
It is.
It is.
You know what I mean?
Because I mean, like I said, Diade los Muertos is just that's
what we're saying.
It's that celebration of them,you know.
And we always hope that thepeople when we without digging
them up.
Without digging them up.
Yep, exactly.
Without digging them up.
that you know, it it's it thatwe're hoping that they went to
the you know, that they were atpeace when they did pass.
(30:05):
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, of course.
And you know, I I it it's justcrazy.
It's wild because, you know,like right now we could sit and
we talk about well, we could sitand talk about it, the other
motto, we talk about the peoplethat have passed, we talk about,
you know, seeing the light orwhatever you're seeing at the
end, you know, at the days andwhatever.
And it it's still what is therea fear at that moment?
(30:30):
You know what I'm saying?
Like are you scared?
Yeah.
Are you scared or is it like thevoices already talking to you
that you're just like and you'recalm just before you actually
pass.
You hope so, right?
You know what I'm saying?
We don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (30:43):
That's the thing that's so mysterious because we
don't know how we're gonna passaway or of what or is it going
to be sudden?
Is it an accident?
God forbid I'm not putting anybad vibes out there.
I'm saying that's the mysteriouspart about life, right?
Because we'll be as careful aswe possibly can and take care of
ourselves the best as we can,but at some point we are going
to die regardless.
Right, right.
(31:03):
It's gonna happen.
Yeah.
But that's just from what weunderstand only one step which
goes day of the dead.
So now we'll be on the otherside.
SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (31:12):
Yeah.
Now think about it.
Now you go, you pass, now you'rehaving a good time.
And then you would hope Day ofthe Dead comes and not a bit,
Kenny come back hey can you hangout for a little bit?
Good.
No, come on for one day.
Come and hang out.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
Come on for the night.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (31:28):
What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_02 (31:29):
Because it's usually at night right?
Not the whole day.
Is it the whole day?
SPEAKER_01 (31:31):
No, there's a few of them that are a couple of days
later.
SPEAKER_02 (31:33):
Yeah are they really because Halloween's the whole
day too.
SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
So you know like come back, you know, hang out
with us, you know, keep talkingto them like ah you know I mean
I gotta go back and hang outover there.
I left the ship, you know, I'mout of here.
Over there having a good oldtime I'm out of here.
Yeah I'm driving a cat make aquick thing and then I'm out.
SPEAKER_02 (31:51):
Yeah yeah yeah that's funny.
SPEAKER_01 (31:54):
But you know I mean i i I wish that there was I
don't know if I want to say Iwish, but it would be cool to
know if the people you know onDay of the Dead, you know, on on
these celebratory quote unquoteholidays, if they know, if they
understand that, you know,people st you know still talk
about them, people still missthem.
You know, we would I'm sayingyou know those who celebrate
(32:16):
like that, you know, you hopingthat that they know.
Yeah.
You know, like oh yes I wasthinking about you know oh I
miss you.
SPEAKER_02 (32:22):
You know we had these laughs or whatever that's
it's kind of the same like ifyou ever think about somebody or
something or whatever, you'lleither and somebody will say oh
I saw so and so the other dayI'm just fucking thinking of
that.
Yeah but so I think in some wayit's possible that it it makes
it to the other side.
SPEAKER_01 (32:41):
Yeah because some way or the other it's like when
you think like you said wheneven when you're thinking about
somebody and they'll call howmany times you know the three of
us are sitting together bullshiton the phone or whatever and
it's like one of us will saysomething it's like yo I was
just thinking that right youknow what I mean same idea.
To me it's the same idea.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
I think there's something going on yeah yeah
it's a connection that'sdefinitely a connection it's the
force my friend yes I love whatyou think that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_04 (33:07):
Yeah force is real Dave I think so you know I start
to think they say if you tapinto we are connected somehow
and I don't know how you knowand they they say that human
consciousness they don't knowwhere it comes from like they
don't know where in the brainlike they can't like they can't
find how the brain like so likethere's theories that like
figuring it out like little bylittle thoughts we think they're
(33:30):
in our head but maybe they'reremote they're in the cloud.
SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
They're in the cloud right they're in the in the
human cloud they say theconnection that we're all that's
what I believe.
SPEAKER_04 (33:40):
I I I actually I used to be atheist remember we
were talking about the firstseason we were doing this.
And now I I have more of like ametaphysical kind of I believe
not simulation theory as acomputer like the matrix but I
believe that like all religionsare just interpreting the same
thing.
That's how I feel you know it'sjust my interpretation of this
(34:04):
it doesn't mean I believethey're all right.
Yeah.
Okay.
And that it's a lot of it's justbased on the culture where the
religion was founded.
Right and the interpretationyeah and then that and then
there's some people who aremystics and prophets in
different cultures and that'sjust what the but like they're
all saying the same thing.
Yeah and yeah they're talkingabout the same damn God.
(34:24):
And like you know yeah it's thesame one.
SPEAKER_02 (34:27):
It's bullshit fucking one regardless.
It's your version your storywhatever.
And I don't I don't follow anyspiritual in a sense because and
you don't have to be religious.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (34:40):
That's what people screw that up to be spiritual
because you can be our souls weare the soul and these are just
our capsule.
What is it like what's thatmovie?
Avatar.
Like yeah we're avatars right alittle bit and then we go to
another cocoon cocoon right?
SPEAKER_01 (34:57):
I did but I don't I just remember it was in the 80s
a long time ago those whitethings yeah the white little
yeah alien spiritual lookingthings yeah so I mean and you're
right and that and your spiritis goes to the next term you're
done with this body and then yougo all right now it's you move
on to the next you guys are theones that told me that that it
(35:18):
was like you know it's like somepeople they can either go to the
light to be reincarnated or theylike look over their shoulder
turn around and that and they'llgo home.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (35:28):
Meaning they came if you want to go there right but
you might be reincarnated andsent back that's where if you go
turn around and look behind youyou'll see where you came from
and you'll go to that spot.
That's that's one of thetheories that people have out
there.
SPEAKER_04 (35:42):
That's what you guys took about that's pretty that's
turn off the wall right take mehome turn around to the light so
the lights behind you and sayyeah yeah yeah yeah exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
But if you go to light you're gonna get recycled.
Recycled right and then sentback again that's funny
recycled.
SPEAKER_02 (35:59):
Yeah all right all right you're going back again
yeah but then if that's the casehow many times were you sent
back?
Do you even know?
Is this the first time you everhave your life or is this like
your 12000th time is one ofthose things too bro.
SPEAKER_01 (36:15):
Think about it.
Think of how many times thatyou've had and like we've had
you know we've had theconversation you've had the time
I'm sorry go ahead bro no no goahead that you have those
thoughts of like you know you ina cowboy outfit or you you know
just being in a ho in adifferent country or whatever.
SPEAKER_04 (36:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (36:32):
You've you know you've even said that.
SPEAKER_04 (36:33):
Yeah and but there's there's people who believe
though that like that like youcan like like I and I believe
the same theory too that likeyou can choose to like you can
go away for you like you can oryou could you like any point in
time you could be like ah I'mgonna go back.
SPEAKER_02 (36:48):
And then you could stay hang out for a little while
or you'll be told that left thebeach and then it's like uh it's
been like uh they'll be like youknow I don't know how long time
doesn't exist so I don't yeahexactly I'm done all right let's
go back I'm tired of this cardtoo it could be the person that
you run into or the that you seeon the other side they'll say to
you you're not supposed to behere the belief also is that
(37:10):
time doesn't exist and that youcan go in any point in time go
back.
SPEAKER_04 (37:14):
Ooh like like like like the universe is and and
time is like one static thingand you just go and you're just
playing point A to B at thispoint in time at this place.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah so that's that's one of thetheories.
So like you know it's like Icome back and I think I'm gonna
I'm gonna go into a dystopianfuture or maybe I'll go to the
(37:35):
Renaissance or the the uh uhancient Rome.
SPEAKER_02 (37:42):
They're saying the universe is like a web is trying
they're figuring out therethere's more to it that we
understand where there's so manydifferent connections and so
many different ways.
You know who's you know what weshould do an episode on?
SPEAKER_04 (37:52):
We should do an episode on Bashar.
On who?
Bashar.
There's a guy he channels hesupposedly he channels like an
alien and he always comes upwith this things like oh you're
all living at the same like likeone of the theories is is like
that that you're all that likeyou do live several lives okay
but it's not reincarnation.
You're living them all at thesame time.
Stop different periods of time.
(38:13):
Oh so like so it's a multiverse.
Yeah yeah it's like a multiverselike like you go like like but
they say there is one thoughlike you're saying that you have
an option you're choosing tolike live like 20 life sets at
the same time at differentpoints in time.
Wow.
And then you sync them back upwhen you when you What?
SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
See I've never heard of it.
See that's a different ver nowthat's another version of the
idea believes.
SPEAKER_02 (38:35):
But I heard that there is multiverses where we do
have another copy of yourself ina different timeline or the same
timeline but in a differentuniverse.
Right?
Right?
It could be a little bitdifferent than what you are now
maybe non negative in a as faras what infinite or positive
there's infinite it just goes onand on and on.
Yeah you know like Neo how manytimes did they have to make Neo?
(38:57):
How many times did Neo have tocome back before you actually
figured it out?
Well just for him alone he wasthree times religious references
and when he went in front of thewhen he went in front of the the
architect the architect it was alot more than that.
SPEAKER_04 (39:12):
No I think was it or was it that it was he kept
showing it this one here therewere many different versions and
every TV that was back there hada different version of what I
think that was the architectbecause he the way the architect
thinks is he thinks in amultiverse his his mind is you
know what his mind is like aquantum processor.
He comes up with a milliondifferent things at the same
(39:32):
time different solutions.
What the architect is a quantumprocessor.
Oh because the quantum processorcomes up with a million
different versions and comes upwith the best answer.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (39:43):
And Neo is an anomaly.
Yeah which is random notsupposed to happen but it does
and for some reason he's able todo the opposite of what the
architect has said the laws bythe architect should be
happening and he's like no Idon't he goes by his own rules.
But eventually it took him timeto get there.
That makes sense right thatmakes sense.
(40:04):
So I can dig it squirely coolstuff but there's so many I just
think that the one thing I dofeel confident about is that
there is something else but it'sbigger than what we can fathom.
You know what I mean?
Which explains why when peopledo have them and they come back
most of the time hopefully goodthey have crazy their life
(40:27):
changes for the positive.
You know they take a differentlook at it and go, oh wow just
you know because they had a aprofound experience spiritual
experience.
You know and then you know notreally just spiritual which is
totally opposite.
Right.
You can be both but you know onedoes not cancel out the other.
(40:48):
So I think that's interesting.
For sure man just to you knowyou come back and then you know
your life was whether you youknow had an accident or
something and they came back oryou saw yourself the stories of
people driving and they'll be inthe in the ambulance and they're
right above it going to thehospital or whatever.
You know it's just so with me Ibelieve there is definitely
(41:09):
something beyond this and youknow we'll get there I'm with
you.
We'll I'll be if I it's me firstI'll be waiting for you to
hanging out and then I'll greetyou guys.
Yeah.
Hell yeah definitely andhopefully when we're going we
can smoke weed I'll be thereanything's allowed it'll be
(41:30):
better than we'll probably waybetter.
You probably you won't even needit.
SPEAKER_04 (41:34):
Yeah yeah yeah just be like I'll just upload you the
City exactly the move you won'teven need it because you'll be
in a place where it's notnecessary.
SPEAKER_01 (41:43):
Yeah exactly yeah euphoria exactly in a totally
peaceful realm that is greatwhere oh and you're happy and
you're comfy and you're relaxedand in the zone argument in the
afterlife like Minecraft youcould just build whatever you
just imagine whatever you wantbro you go see whoever you want
when you're ready to think ofthem imagine you're out there
(42:05):
right you think of somebodywhile you're there they pop up
however it works and boom you'reright there you're oh what's
going on yeah so and so yeah Ihaven't seen you you know uh huh
well I mean what do you hear itnow too I mean think about it
you know because I'm that guyrock and roll heaven must have
one hell of a rock and rock facefurly just recently yeah you
know so now here's somethinginteresting before the show ends
(42:27):
I here's a concept that Ithought about so now I was
adopted right I was brought upJewish but didn't follow it I
wound up going my own way andbelieving things differently and
thinking the universe is youknow the connections that way
and everything.
SPEAKER_02 (42:42):
And then I always awesome you know when people say
someone's always greeted themright yeah or they meet somebody
well I had my mom and dad whowere my mom and dad from growing
up adopted from the day I wasborn two days old right it's
your parents but then I had myother parents I used to say that
somebody from that side that whoI have never met came and
(43:02):
greeted me and the weird thingwould be is that you would know
who it was you felt kind ofcomfortable whatever it was
because how crazy is that I'mthinking that in my head I'm
like how's that gonna work?
Would that happen?
Yeah you never met this personor spoke to him nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
Yeah and then they show up for that calmness to be
like you're like oh you're nowyou're so and so yeah that would
be sick you know that's how mymind works no no no no that's a
good one that was a good mindwork right there bro fuck around
that was some good shit rightthere well shit we'll end on
that good groove thank you forhanging out with us today on the
Día de los Muertos hopeeverybody celebrated it because
(43:38):
we've you know well everybodythat does that they celebrated
had a great day and whatnot andyou know everything was cool
peace and copestetic and thankyou for joining us have a good
one love peace and hair greaselive long and prosper and
celebrate
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