April 16, 2025 • 44 mins
Have you ever wondered if there's more to your consciousness than what meets the eye? Our fascinating journey into the pineal gland—the mysterious "third eye" nestled within your brain—might just change how you think about meditation, spirituality, and your own untapped potential.
We dive deep into this pea-sized powerhouse that scientists know produces melatonin and regulates sleep, but spiritual traditions worldwide claim does much more. From ancient wisdom traditions to modern neuroscience, the pineal gland sits at a fascinating intersection where science meets spirituality. Is this tiny brain structure truly the gateway to heightened awareness, intuition, and spiritual experiences that many claim it to be?
The conversation takes unexpected turns as we share personal meditation experiences, discuss fluoride's potential effects on brain health, and explore how sound therapy might activate altered states of consciousness. You'll hear about different meditation techniques that could help you access your own "third eye," whether through traditional meditation, sound frequencies, or even finding that flow state during physical activities like running or biking.
Perhaps most thought-provoking is our discussion about spiritual sensitivity and empathy. "People who are spiritually minded tend to suffer from anxiety and depression more because their eyes are open to a world in need of repair." This powerful insight leads us to reflect on how heightened awareness connects to emotional sensitivity—and whether developing your pineal gland's potential might change how you perceive the world around you.
Whether you're a meditation enthusiast, spiritually curious, or simply fascinated by the untapped potential of your own brain, this episode offers something valuable for everyone. Try one of our suggested meditation techniques tonight and see what happens when you begin to open your third eye!
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hello and welcome to Common Crawford, the Jersey Guy
podcast.
I'm Lewis here with my boyKenny and, of course, the Jersey
Guy Tom.
What up, Gentlemen?
How are you?
How you doing?
All right, Eximilente.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I enjoy the swagger that Lou just had given.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm gonna try to do that as best.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I can super relaxed, super relaxed it's gotta be man?
Yes, but you know what?
We can see that and sense it.
Yeah, with our pineal gland,with our pineal gland.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's right, which is what we will be talking about
.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That was good, right, that was a good segue right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I always see stuff on like.
Of course it's on social mediaand most of the time it's
Instagram.
You know it's always got.
I try to put up healthy stuffwhen I share stuff from my thing
to Facebook.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So any stuff like that, meditation, anything like
that?
The pineal gland, supposedly,is your third eye right, and if
you know how to learn how to useit, that's what the thing is.
So now, uh, the pineal gland isa p-sides conical mass of
tissue behind the thirdventricle of the brain,
secreting a hormone-likesubstance in some mammals.
We happen to be one of those.
Some mammals, yes, sir, and um,that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Is it a real thing or is it a theory?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
No, it's a real thing , it is a real thing, it's a
real thing, but it's what thedefinition of third eye I think
is where it's it's melatoninproduction.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The thing is yeah, got it.
Circadian rhythms and potentiallinks to brain health, anatomy
of the function, the pinealglands, a role in the melatonin
production.
So it's there.
So that's where we get all thatVery cool.
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
So again, it's the.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's a chemical-producing gland Right,
and it produces what chemicals?
Is it just serotonin or is itseveral different?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, it's I'm sorry, it was melatonin production and
circadian rhythms and potentiallinks.
And here it says calcification.
Calcification excuse me, got ithow fluoride, diet and aging
affect the gland and whetherdecalification methods work.
(02:20):
There it is.
So then it's so I guess youknow, if you don't take, you
know, because you know that'sanother thing.
They talk about how fluoride.
You notice how that fluoride islike nobody's really for it.
Now they're trying to get itout of the water.
They're saying it's really notgood for you.
They say that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But how come all the kid vitamins have fluoride in
them?
I know this, I'm saying so.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's two sides of the story, Like the ones that
the doctors prescribe.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They say the good stuff and then I mean like you,
actually ingest the fluorideRight Because it's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I always thought it was a good thing All my life.
We grew up with it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
As your teeth are growing and getting enameled,
your adult teeth are gettingfluoridated Right, supposedly
and making are gettingfluoridated supposedly, and
making them stronger and harderand less susceptible, so you
have a stronger enamel as anadult.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Remember we spoke on some of the things that our
country still has that othercountries don't.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right about foods that we make in this country
where they're banned in othercountries.
This is probably one of thosesame things, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Now it's coming out that it's falling into that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know what I mean what the, what the heck, because
I've been given this well, wecan look that up to my kid, but
it's so, I guess.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But it's like anything else though.
Yeah, how much of the bad canwe deal with?
Take, yeah, we, you know to toget the, the, the benefits.
Right, you know what I mean?
Right, like you see, half thecommercials you see on tv is
like because it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's not.
That is true about the teeth.
It does do that for your teeth,but what?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
else what is it doing to you like is yeah, did it
give you your adhd?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
yeah you know what I'm saying.
Did it give me my arthritis tothe?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
yeah, you know, because of whatever genes we had
, like you know exactly mutants.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know.
Well, check this out.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Neurochemistry and DMT Debate over whether the
pineal gland produces.
I'm going to try to pronouncethis dimethyloproteinaminin DMT
I'm probably saying that totallywrong which links to mystical
experiences, right?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You're right.
So, like you said, so it thepineal gland.
People have always said that itwhen you learn how to meditate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that'swhere your third eye is.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So then now, when you smoke weed, yeah Well, back in
the day it was people meditating.
You know silence, sound, youknow whatever things that they
were doing.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Well, think about how , when you're meditating, it's
supposed to be like a superrelaxed state.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right how, when you're meditating, it's supposed
to be like a super relaxedstate.
If your pineal gland producesmelatonin, then that has
something probably to do withwhat happens when you're
meditating, is it startsproducing that chemical, exactly
, and you start to get thatdream state maybe and that's why
you're able to, when youmeditate, to get, because I tell
you've done meditations beforeand like you get into some weird
(05:25):
places.
Right, it's really weird,especially the guided meditation
ones, right, right, like you,your imagination takes over so
vividly sometimes, right, likeyou, you could like like they're
like, oh, and you're in aforest and in the tree.
You get closer to the tree lineand you see a door in a tree
(05:47):
and you open the door and you gointo the tree right, and you're
in a living room inside of atree you know like and like you,
you, you, you're there, youknow what I mean exactly, and
that's the whole thing, so thatthat's also kind of hypnosis
a little bit involved in there,but it's voluntary people think
hypnosis as like barks, like adog yeah, like that's not.
(06:08):
Yeah, like hypnosis is is verydifferent.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's just, uh, putting you in this like
dreamlike state where you'relike you're, you're like in a
vivid dream, right so now it's ahow you get there though, right
, right, so that then, like youknow it, people that go to the
gym, right, they say that theyfeel this.
You know, uh, almost euphoria,endorphins, because the
endorphins and they're gettingin that workout, and you know,
(06:33):
runners, they get the runnershigh.
You know saying so, all thesethings that you know that that's
probably how it is, too, whenwe, you know, if we learn how to
meditate to the point wherewe're going to open up our third
eye, you know what I mean.
And I mean, dude, I'm gonnatell you what.
When they say, spiritually,that the third eye helps, you
(06:58):
see things, read people, youknow saying, um, feel yourself
that you can.
You know, like you just seepeople's official aura.
You know, like you see thecolor on their stuff.
You're seeing, right, theirenergy.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You're seeing their energy exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So now, how freaking cool is that you know what I?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
mean what about that expression?
I've been hearing this a lot inreference to this stuff.
When it says to let go so like,so, let's say in reference to
this stuff.
When it says to let go so likeso, let's say sometimes when I'm
laying in bed and I want to goto sleep, right, I can find
myself Sounds so Jedi-like.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, I know right yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And then I just lay down All right, let me let go.
So I'm trying to listen.
Instead of one noise, I'mtrying to find as many as I can
find.
Wow, while I was sleeping I hadmy mind just bouncing Listen
and then, before you know it,you're out.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well, don't they say that you should concentrate on
the one Right?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
but doing that doesn't work for me because I
still wander.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
But then how did your tinnitus work so?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I just let go and I allowed myself to have all my
senses, just feel everythingaround me and then just use it
that way, rather than try tofocus it on the one and just let
it all work.
That's wild that's wild atleast, that's how right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
No, that makes sense.
I I hear you, so now I'm surethere's more than one way of
achieving that oh yeah,definitely, I believe there is
too all day long.
So now, scientifically, thoughmodern science does not support
the spiritual interpretation ofthe pineal gland, it is a
primarily viewed.
It is primarily viewed as anendocrine organ that plays a
(08:32):
crucial role in regulating uh,circadian rhythms and sleep,
like you said before.
Right, so then to me doing thesound therapy that then that
would trigger that too.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Absolutely, I'm sure it does.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And then you know, like I said again, see, we're
freaking geniuses and we don'teven know it, because we've
talked about like this kind ofstuff and other things and it's
wild how all the everything'sconnected, Everything that we
say is so connected.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Because it doesn't mean you have to.
You could do all of them, oryou could do a combination of
them.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Crazy, though, how certain things like sound.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Like, again, I've done some of this spiritual
stuff.
I've gotten with Suzanne, we'vegotten together and like they
do like this, like we went tothis one, it was like a shaman
one and they like bang the drumRight.
And that vibration at that tuneis get your body to start, your
brain to start secreting, likethose endorphins and all that
from your pineal gland.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right, so that's the whole part about it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
There's something, that frequency, that actually
gets your brain to produce thatwhich is wild yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Because that's what they say is, along with
meditation and that, but yourwhole, your whole body too, if
like, if you're what your wholebody too, like your chi right.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
My instructor would say come from your chi, meaning
get it from your center.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The nerd in me wants to know the scientific.
I know it does that and it'slike magic, right.
But I want to know thescientific part of it.
What does it do?
Is it right?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But I want to know the scientific part of it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
What does it do Is?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
it frequency your body just like Just allowing
your body to tune into what'saround you is really what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But that's the thing you said.
It's a force man.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
But the scientific isn't the sound.
Yeah, the scientific is justthat it's something there and,
like I said before, when you'redoing something that you enjoy,
so, like you go to the dojo, youknow you um when you're reading
something.
Yeah, you know texting up onstudying or whatever.
My music yeah me, you know,when I'm driving like it's just
those things, those moments thatwe have, that are our
(10:34):
quote-unquote meditation, andthat's what science says is what
brings those things out,because that's what makes us
happy.
We're in a happy place when wedo those things.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, yeah so that's so, that's the scientific, but
don't forget about yeah, right,but don't forget right.
So then, going back to thespiritual part, what is with
meditation and all the chakrasand all that and focusing your
energy.
Yeah, I believe that's prettypowerful stuff, because if you
can get into that, find thatspot and channel into that, they
(11:04):
say it's almost as if you'reable to know what it's like when
you're going to die, kind of.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, right, right, the closest thing you'll get to.
Okay, as far as I mean, if youcan get your meditation to that
point, you might be able toexperience that experience.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, see, then I'm like I don't know, Remember what
I was telling you earlier.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I was telling you earlier, I was telling you.
There was a gentleman onInstagram and he was talking
about how, when you pass away,you could either get recycled,
go back, follow the light you gothrough, you get recycled and
then you come back.
Or when you get there, insteadof going towards the light, turn
around and you'll see theuniverse.
Then you could decide to gohome home, and it'll take you
(11:46):
right where you're from.
As far as your home isconcerned, this way they the way
they said it.
I'm like well, that's prettyfreaking wild right.
Who knew that you could turnaround when you're there?
Like oh, wait a minute, excuseme, yeah nice light.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Hold on a minute hold on.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I want to go this way , yo right I heard that, but
that's pretty cool, right?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I mean, I heard that theory too about turning around.
Instead, they'll don't go intolight, turn around and go home.
They said now, but yeah, so,but, but home, like where your
origin is before being here onearth yeah right, but exactly
yeah, that's exactly rightthere's meaning that as much as
as in this theory we came fromstars man as much as there is as
(12:25):
afterlife there's also a beforelife that we don't know right
how many times and how manytimes did we go to light?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
yeah, yeah, exactly.
And recycle.
How many times have I beenrecycled?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's probably why you'recrazy now.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Now you know now, you know, now, you know turn around
, yeah, turn around this time.
Remember that, pay attention,bro, turn around.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, this time remember that.
Pay attention, bro, turn around, don't forget that shit.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, keep your head on the swivel everyone listening
.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep your head on the swivel
right, look around.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But it was like a positive thing, it was like you
could do that.
You could go towards the lightwhich you know.
You'll see people that you'vemissed and lost and everything,
and then you'll just into thethat's what the whole idea was
that's one version that's onetheory of it, right?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
so I'm sure there's many different, you know right,
so that then, now is it a matterof you becoming, you being so
in tune, like is it only thepeople that have actually well,
what we believe to have openedthe third eye that can do that?
No, that's not necessarily whenyou die.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
When you die, you know, most people never do that
stuff.
I'm assuming when they passaway, you know, or they have a
near-death experience orsomething they come back and
they have, they can tell youwhat they saw.
Right.
It's basically you couldn't besomething that would happen if
you were meditating, you know.
Think of it that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But they didn't have to.
So you haven't had thatexperience, that near-death
experience.
Thank God, I don't think so.
So then now, when it gets tothat time for you, then is it
that are you still going to have?
I guess we'll say thisconversation in your head, in
your spiritual mind.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, my views have not changed since as long as
I've been alive, that you'llknow to turn around and look the
other way.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Oh, now that it's in my mind.
I think I know that's what I'masking I might do it.
I don't know if I would be ableto say that I hope so.
I hope I remember.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I hope I don't go to his life and go.
Oh, I forgot.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Like oh man.
I didn't want to make the lastWait.
Hey, if we can recycle, I canget a do-over?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Can I get a transfer?
I want to go down.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, just imagine.
That.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Blue, no red.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Oh, that's right, that's right, bobby Python.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yes, yes, oh my God, that's great, but yeah, you know
.
So it's the gland.
It's a gland Right In the brain.
It's the gland.
It's a gland Right In the brainIf we go by what you guys were
just saying we are the beingsand we're just Mysterious in its
own way.
Yes, right, yeah, and we'rejust in this meat bag right now
(14:54):
for us to live here.
Move on to the next place, andnow-.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
This is just a step in life, which also lines up
with simulation theory that thisplace is the simulation that we
placed this where, the lifethat we're in, because if
there's before life and afterlife, that means we dip in here
and then go back out.
You know what I'm saying whichkind of is like a simulation, if
(15:20):
you think about it.
So that theory that you'retalking about, there's a theory
that adds to that, where it'snot really the simulation theory
, but it's like we live in thefifth dimension our, our souls
our, our essence we are the soullike right, and we go here to
experience life in the 3d worldand blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
(15:42):
, and then we learn our lessonand then we go back out and
we've like changed.
Like you know, we're differentnow, we're improved.
Hope you are or worse.
Yeah, you know what I mean,which is like heaven or hell,
like you're a worse person oryou're a better person, and not
hell being or heaven being aplace.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Your person or you're a better person and not helping
, uh, or having being a place.
Well, I don't know your, yourmind.
You know you're in a betterplace now you're.
You know you've improved oryou've digressed you know what
if we?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
so what if as a person?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
so then you go back here, you say.
Then you go back and berecycled because, uh, you know
what I'm not improved, I gottago back and you know well.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So then what if everybody's here, voluntary,
everybody that's here.
We go by your, your theory.
Right now we all have our thirdeye is open.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We're there, we're meditating where those just
don't know how to use it, that'sall no, that we all know how to
use it, and this is here.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
This is our um like you said, simulation, this is
our simulation we'll go tobecause we're all linked, yeah,
so we're all trying to be.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This is our penance.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, we're here to improve ourselves.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And we have the third eye power.
That's an interesting theory wejust don't have we're not good
enough.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's not really heaven or hell, it's just like
it's that predatory.
It's like oh, it's like, oh.
I still got to work on myself alittle bit.
You know, I did this in lifeand it never I never like got
past it.
So I'm going to go back.
I need to learn another lesson,but then you might have another
problem.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You know, it might have something else that might
happen to you in life.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
But then now, here's why I have a problem with that,
though Only because so manythings change so many things, we
, we evolution has made usdifferent creatures every
generation.
I'll say you know what I mean.
So, like you know, for us, whenwe would that's like you know
ride your bike and fall off thebike and it's like whatever, and
(17:35):
get up, get back, up now thekids are like no, no, lou, tom,
don't feel that way.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, your feelings, talkto me about your feelings.
Meanwhile, for us we're likeget the fuck out of here, get
your ass up, go do whatever, noton everything.
I'm not saying, you know we do.
We talk a lot about them.
You know when people arefeeling, you know in their
feelings and you need to expressand take care of yourself.
(17:55):
I'm what we would.
You know, some people considerbullshit, others think it's a
big deal.
You know, is this our penance?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You know, and that third eye, like you're saying,
like this is our simulation, sowe haven't gotten over that you
know, yeah, yeah, if you're sentback again, if you go back
again, it's because of somethingthat you weren't, you didn't
accomplish.
In you get to something thatyou, where you actually became a
better person maybe Okay, youknow what I mean.
Yeah, now do you feel Givingyou another chance so you could
(18:29):
either go somewhere else because, listen, they've had near-death
experiences of people who'vetried to kill themselves.
Right, and when they prescribedwhat they saw when they came
back, it wasn't good, no, no, itwas bad.
Oh, really, yeah, why it wasn'tgood?
no, no, it was bad oh reallyyeah, it was dark, it was dreary
because they took their ownlife right.
It was sad.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It was the worst, like the worst, like depression
you could ever have but thenthat goes to, I think, what I
had asked earlier, maybedifferently, maybe I didn't own
in my head, but anyway, likethen, the last thing you were
feeling going through dealingwith that made you commit
suicide.
Is that what?
(19:10):
That's what you're seeing,because you left on a bad note.
It's like you turn around andyou fall asleep in a bad mood
and you're going to be, you knowif you're already depressed and
you're already suicidal, it'sjust right, so then it's all of
it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So now, when you're recycling, this one's saying at
one time right.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
So when you come back and you're recycled you, you
come back.
That you know.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm saying yeah, yeah , you come back with that mental
, with that feeling, that ideathis is what I'm saying, you're
right so hopefully you learnright and you come back look
we're not gonna really knowuntil it's time right right, oh
no, I do believe we will move tothe next step.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
There is another step .
Speaker 3 (19:46):
If the atheist is the correct theory.
You're not going to know,You're just going to go.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh shit, I shouldn't have turned around.
Well, if we believe indimensions and all that other
time, who's to say that when wedo die, now we graduated to the
next dimension, which is thenext step, or another type of
life more spiritual?
Yeah, you know, it could bedescribed in any way when you
think about it.
Right, it's interesting tofigure out.
(20:14):
I do believe something willhappen.
I believe I'll see people I'velost before me and my animals
and all that, yeah, but thenagain I don't know.
I don before me and my animalsand all that, but then again I
don't know I don't know, I don'tremember dying, but maybe I'm
going to try this time.
See what happens.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
No, no, no, no no, yeah, I don't know, man, I don't
know, I don't know I think Idon't know, Tom, you messed me
up with that theory, bro.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know what I mean.
Sorry, I put it out there.
I put it out there Now, I just.
Yeah, it's not like no.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You know.
So again, if this is and we'resaying spiritually that the
pineal gland, you know, maybethat's the key to everybody
being healthy.
Maybe you know what I mean.
Maybe that's what I mean, Maybe, Like that's what it is, Like
part of the simulation is youknow what I'm saying.
(21:09):
These are the things that we,you know I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, I think it's good to you know, meditate and
stuff like that it's healthy andpeople feel better.
I mean studies have shown likeit's like help people, even
people even physically like,with their physical health,
because it reduces stress andall that.
Yeah, absolutely so.
That's like all that stuff youknow that actually, so it
actually does lead to physicalhealth a healthy pineal gland.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, so meditation or listen, if you can, if you
learn how to do so, think ofwhere that thing is in your head
.
Not only do you have to nowpractice to try to figure out
how to use it right.
First you got to figure out howto do that, so that alone has
to be hard, right?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hell yeah, because none of us really feel that we
are ever not.
I'm talking about us right here.
We don't ever feel that kind ofrelaxed, we don't feel that
we've reached it yet.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think maybe we have in certain things, like you
said earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And that also talks about enlightenment, right,
right, what the Buddhists talkabout, like you have.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Is that what we're talking about Right right Going
in that direction.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Then that's opening that third eye that's supposed
to be Is that like it's like astate of being Right Like in
latent.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Right, I don't know what that is.
That's like opening the pinealgland all the way.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Right, exactly.
So now here's what a wild partis.
Now I'm seeing more.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is it supposed to be like a feeling, like a high?
Or is it just like thisknowledge it's just a knowledge.
Yeah, it's a knowledge, becausenow I've seen more monks.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
More monks have come to the mainstream.
A lot more shamans have come upinto the mainstream.
Is it just a hoax, Like youknow, these guys just trying to
make money off of people or arethey really giving you that?
Like?
I follow a monk.
He's a younger dude.
He's not even an old guy, Ithink.
I know you, Everything'sconnected man, the, a younger
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dude, he's not even an old guyand, um, I think I know
everything's connected man.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The universe is connected, we're connected.
That's what he said.
You might have shared stuff,you know.
I think maybe you say, if youput the energy out there, if you
think about negative things alltime, that's all you're gonna
attract to yourself it's like soeverything you're, you're in
control, it's just a matter oflearning how to steer your ship
right.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
What this guy is saying.
Yeah, you know this particularmonk and there's more of them
coming out.
There's more of them being thepositive or trying to give you
that positive thought process.
He's a monk that I follow on.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We follow on as well.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
The young guy.
He's a younger monk guy.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, he does he tells you about how you should.
You know how to focus and youknow if you're going to do this
or that.
He's playing him straight aboutit.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, because there's a couple of shamans that I've
seen too Really good.
Yeah, that are pretty cool.
Here's something.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I want to read to you guys, okay.
Because I was always trying todescribe how I feel, right,
spiritually.
Okay, okay, how I feelSpiritually.
People who are spirituallyminded tend to suffer from
anxiety and depression more.
You know why?
Because their eyes are open tothe world that is in need of
repair.
They literally have anincreased ability to feel the
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emotions of people around them.
That's exactly on the money ofhow I feel.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's being like an empath.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
As people, I feel, yeah, I can get emotional on the
drop of a dime, if something,if I think about something,
that's you know has to do withthe planet or whatever, right it
.
Just you're an empathic person.
I try.
Well, I I believe I am.
Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
In some sense it works.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I just Notice things now and it hurts you when you
think about it and you're like,oh man.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You can't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You're powerless.
You know, it's just like afrustration almost, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
But that's what I mean, I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But that's what I'm saying about what we're talking
about now.
You know your spirituality, theother one's control, you have
to steer it.
So if you go negative, that'swho you're going to be.
If you go positive or try tostay in the middle but that's
life, you know what I mean dothe best you can.
Hopefully, you know, at the end, yeah, you come out better.
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On the other end, you know, youfeel good about it or whatever.
Hopefully you know, you?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, because the one thing I haven't been able to
find was you know if,scientifically, there's a way to
get that pineal gland up andpumping.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you could do.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
There are actually YouTube videos on there where
they tell, they tell you how tomeditate and what to do in order
to well no, no, that'smeditation, that's spiritual.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It's not like you go to the doctor he's going to turn
around like bing smack you inyour forehead.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well, serotonin, serotonin.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, but right.
So then it's just you takingpills Dopamine too, right, but
it's just you taking the pill orthat medication,
over-the-counter stuff.
It's not that the scientistscould turn around, like I said,
and pin you in the forehead andit's going to be like now it's
open, now these are the thingsthat you do.
This is your physical therapyto make this stay happening.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I find the best time to do it is when I'm sleeping,
because I'm laying down, I canclose my eyes and I, just like I
said earlier, I was focusing.
You're focusing, don't you everfeel like when you lock into
something and then, the nextthing you know, you don't even
remember that you fell asleep,right?
Yes, and then when?
you wake up you don't realize it.
You remember what you weredoing before you fell asleep,
(26:43):
right?
Yeah, but your mind, if you tryto focus it in and not fight
against it, and just you knowwhat I'm saying?
Yeah, at least for me anyway,because we're all different, we
all have to figure out our ownway of working that out.
You know what I started doing.
I started doing.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I started hypnotizing myself to sleep.
Really, I do a guidedmeditation.
Well, it's kind of like aguided meditation In my head.
I go, you know, my head'srelaxed, my eyebrows are
starting to get heavy.
You're talking to yourself.
You know how they do thatduring a meditation yeah.
My elbows are starting to getloose, relaxed, the muscle
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fibers are loose.
I say it to myself in my head.
You know what I mean, right,right, and you actually start to
relax and then falling deeperinto sleep.
You can actually meditateyourself.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It works.
That's what I'm saying, and itworks.
There's so many different waysyou can do it right.
That's a great way to do it.
That's awesome.
I never even.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, I don't think I'd be able to do that for me,
you know that's what I'm saying,like you say it's like a
practice, you can't listen tothat sound it's too soothing for
you.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, yeah, maybe that's the thing.
Maybe you shoulders got allrelaxed.
See here, past it.
Just I'm trying to hear.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Past it let it be on, but try to hear past it as well
I, I mean I want to go to likethe sound therapy with the bowls
, like I did.
That too, I want to do it againI think that is something else.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That sound does that frequency, does something
absolutely does something right,and you know what I'm saying.
And there's a scientific sothat's why I think, when people
are skeptics, that they don'tunderstand like it does
something to the certain, to thechemical production your brain,
it activates it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It does something well, and that's the thing you
know.
I bugged out that, yeah, it is,and it's a literal scientific
because like that sound musthave a frequency right.
It has to, and that's whatremember.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Lou was talking about the sound frequencies.
We're talking about that inanother episode.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, because it was so.
Right now, science alreadyknows that there's, and your
brain?
Adjusts and it goes to that andfocuses in but science already
knows that there's a tone, asound, there's sound waves that
you know flow through space,even though there's no, you know
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atmosphere in space.
But it's just like there'ssounds, there's these tones that
we can pick up.
There's tones, there's sounds,vibrations here on the planet,
and when we are off physically,we right, we we're not right.
You know what I'm saying we'rein pain, we're right, you know
feeling, whatever issue theuniverse is not in balance right
, so that at that moment for us,everybody in particular, so
then going to and then you feeleverybody else, because somebody
else could throw you off.
Exactly Right.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Except then.
Now you go to the sound things.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That one person.
That's always negative.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Exactly.
Yeah, somebody's on an A minorand you know you're on a B Right
and you you're on a B and it'sthrowing your whole vibe off.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And then there are times right when, think about it
, you get through it without aproblem, right, sometimes you
can you just you notice thatit's not even affecting you.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You don't even hear it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You were able to tune it out.
Maybe that's the part of it,that's the pineal gland where
you're able to have that senseversus the pineal gland where
you're able to have that sense.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, versus, because not talking about it's easy to
get annoyed, right, it's easy toget pissed off and allow
yourself to get like you know.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, you know, like, right away, somebody out, then
having the discipline to try tofocus in, if we, you know, right
, like my cousin right now.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
She went and she had knee surgery.
My cousin jesse just out and uh, she, she's having a hard time
to get up and walk around and tomove around and all that stuff
because it hurts.
Yeah Right, but I believe thatshe's not doing, she's not
trying hard enough, only becauseI know her, you know what I'm
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saying and I know that she'scapable.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Does she listen to this podcast?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, oh man, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I know that she can get upand go.
Yeah, oh man, yeah, yeah.
So I know that she can get up.
I already told her that I wason the phone with her and I was
like yo, just get your ass upand start walking up and on the
stairs, like what are you doing?
Like this isn't like for you.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
You gotta be so comfortable you gotta fix for a
reason.
So now you know.
So now bear what you got.
You got to bear it out now,right?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
so now for me, because she is, you know, a
spirit not like religious, butshe is, you know, a spirit not
like religious, but she is aspiritual person, you know.
And I'm wondering now, you knowdoing the sound meditation, her
meditating she can relax.
It would be much better for herbeing able to actually move her
knee during a meditation youknow what I'm saying During, you
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know, a sound bath, duringsomething that would end up
getting you know, because mycousin, she's intuitive as a
motherfucker, you know what Imean.
So I'm thinking that she, youknow, she could, you know, get
to that pineal gland and, youknow, make herself better With
the universe.
Right, exactly.
And she can dude, she canChannel in Because she's a pain
(31:36):
in the ass.
She knows what I'm talkingabout, her too, so she's a pain
in the ass.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
She knows what I'm talking about, her too, so she's
going to probably call me later.
We do it to our own selves.
We're stubborn, right, we allhave our own thing.
Sometimes a person who's ableto do that easily, maybe that
one time they're not being ableto, and that one person who has
a hard time is able to get themto see the other way to do it,
right, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'sweird, yeah, because we're all
different you know all differentpersonalities.
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It takes different things,different life experiences right
well, we're all differenteverything comes into you know,
you gotta, I think you have totake all that into account right
, oh, yeah, definitely that'swhat I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I think we're all different, but the same.
You know, it's just a matter ofthe process to get to that
point.
You know, I'm saying, like, theway that tom thinks about it,
the way you think about it, theway that tom thinks about it,
the way you think about it, theway that I think about it, we're
thinking about the same thing.
We hear the words, but all thewords sound different to us,
right?
You know what I mean?
We understanding them differentwhen we learn, when we're in
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school, and we're learningsomething I didn't understand
when the teacher said that'sblack and it's got lines on it,
and then you heard lines on theblack, and then you heard color,
what you know what I'm saying?
And it's like it's all thosethings that we think you know
that it's like oh, because, likeI said, there's conversations
that I'll have with you andyou're like wait, what, what the
(32:52):
hell are you talking about?
And and tom will be like oh,yeah, yeah, yeah and you're like
vice versa.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, same thing, with all you know what I'm
saying, right?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
exactly.
You know what I mean so thenfor sure that's why you know
again, yeah, man, that's not abad idea for for us to to really
, uh, probably tap into thispineal gland like serious shit,
man, this should be somethingthat everybody gives a shot at.
You know, like I said,scientists, they can't disprove
anything, they don't believe anyof that science is different.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They need fact.
That's the whole thing aboutscience and so they but there is
science behind it, right, thereis I think it's coming in your
brain triggers I think scienceis coming around, though,
because they sought to realizethere is something else and
there's something else going on.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Produces mixed together right.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You know, yeah, because it's the endorphins,
yeah, that help you do betterwhen you're feeling better and
you know those endorphinskicking.
Like I was saying earlier withtom, you know it.
The gym heads you know peoplego to the gym and they have that
.
You know that they get to thatpoint where they're just you
know the, what I said, therunners high.
You know the, the endorphinsthat are pumped out.
(33:59):
You know you.
Look at the people that aresuper thrill seekers.
You know they're.
You know the sky diving, the,the just all those crazy sports.
You know the downhill racingyou know the, the BMX guys that
doing all the Like, all thosethings.
You know that gets it in there.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
And that's their meditation.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well yeah, they're zoned in right?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, because a lot of those guys they get in.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
That's their thing, that's their groove.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So that's their happy place, right when you know God
forbid.
But when they get hurt, theywere in a great moment.
They were in a good place intheir head most of the time.
You know what I'm sayingBecause they're doing what they
love to do and they heal fairlyquick.
You know what I'm saying.
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They're not just they'relooking, They've already gotten
in there.
They're doing the physicaltraining.
They're doing all the thingsthat they got to do to get back
out there because that's wheretheir happy place is.
So now their body's kicking outall those.
You know all the good stuff.
You know what I'm saying forthem to to get back in out there
to go and do all the the stuffthat they love to do and get
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back in same thing like therunner's high.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's just .
It's exactly that's crazy whenyou get that second wind.
Yeah, it's a wild thing 30miles in.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
All of a sudden you're just like yeah, exactly
yeah, that never happened to me.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Really Well, I never did it for running Me either, I
never did it for running.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm not a big running person.
I've run a few miles, I've donethat before, but I'd rather
just I haven't run in years.
Do the cardio.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
But I could bike ride , walk.
Bike ride.
I could bike ride.
I can't do the running, therunning, the running's.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, but I could same thing with biking.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I could.
I'm just not a big fan of it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Right yeah, eventually your endorphins just
kick in when I was a kid I hadthat, but that was bike riding
through the five boroughs.
You know what I'm saying andit's literally uphill, going
uptown into Manhattan and thendownhill coming back down and
coming back into Brooklyn.
You know what I mean.
It's insane, but I had thatsecond wind, granted, I was
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young and your body doesn'treally feel that kind of
whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Did you ever go?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
to Staten Island too.
No, because I didn't have the—yeah, dude, no, no, I didn hill
because no, because I didn'thave the.
Yeah, dude, no, no, I didn't gobecause uh to go over the
bridge.
Uh, was verizon.
You can't do it with a bike.
No, not on the verizon, notthen you couldn't.
Yeah, and then now to get ontothe ferry.
Well, back then, to get on thestaten on the ferry, you had to
pay, and you know, a lot oftimes I just had it in my pocket
yeah, yeah, yeah.
(36:35):
No, I wasn't gonna make thathappen, you know, until I got
older, but then by that time Iwas-.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
the Verrazano Bridge you couldn't cross, yeah no, not
on a bicycle, but by walking orwhatever.
No, I know the GeorgeWashington Bridge.
You can GW, yes, yes, yes, Inever went over to GW, though.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's really funny?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
No, because when I went up go to Spanish Harlem, so
I would make the right, not theleft.
Could you bring him on thesubway?
Yes, you could take yourbicycles on the subway.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So if you really wanted to, if you did want to go
to Jersey, it wouldn't be thatbad.
You just take the subway to,like you know, to GW, to GW, and
then just get out, because it'sright there and then just ride
your bike in Jersey.
Right, yeah, you could nicerthere.
There's a lot of stuff in FortLee to do, but like yeah, I know
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.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
But see, that's the third eye, because now you're
going to sit there and you'relike oh, I think if you're in
tune with your body Right andyour mind and you're in a good
place.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
You'll have those moments.
You'll have those moments, yes.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
You, you know, yeah right, you'll have those moments
where you you're zoned in.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You had those moments where you're not, you're not
doing, whatever's going on, butthen you figure it out and you
just work through it.
Yeah, yeah, but you have to andI think you're right.
You're a million percent onthat one, bro.
Million percent, millionpercent.
Listen, I, I, I know I keepsaying it.
I've been doing it little bylittle for me.
You know, when we've talkedabout meditation in the past and
you know just that, getting tothat relaxation, you know
however way it is that I get toit.
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Yeah, it's harder than Ithought it was going to be.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's really.
That was the thing too, for metoo.
That's why I was saying to youearlier.
I said, okay, if this way isnot working.
And they say to let go right,meaning not to try to channel,
or to I was like, okay, let go.
So I just listen, lay there,listen to everything your mind
(38:30):
starts to you feel it bouncingaround, but in a good way, right
, because now you're focusing,you're reaching out almost in a
sense, and you're hearing allthe other different things going
on, right, right.
So now that's like it was andI'm out cold, I'm sleeping.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, you know.
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So I know it's working.
So so for me, because I canjust fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I can just like you know well, that's great too if
you go at times she falls asleeplike, yeah, as soon as she hits
the pillow out.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
My brain is on overdrive, my brain is already.
I have to because I'm.
My mind is active it's all overthe place, even when I'm
sleeping.
Now, if I'm super tired, I'llcrash, but I'm tired, but my
mind is still wandering.
I have to focus in and do whatI was saying earlier.
That's why to kind of just likeokay, just let it go and and
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submit and go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Do you need to do the same thing really, like I know
you said that you have like asleep apnea, not apnea um
insomnia insomnia yeah but Ihave sleep maintenance insomnia,
so I don't have trouble goingto sleep.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Okay, it's I think, I ?
If yeah, I wake up, and which?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
is why I now, as soon as you wake up, do you find
yourself that you're thinking oftoo many things?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, my brain just activates.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Really.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
So you couldn't go right back to bed and just lay
down after that?
See, I can, that I can do.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
My brain just goes you're on.
That sucks.
It's gradual, though.
It just warms up like an oven.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's like See, maybe that's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
if you do meditation, it's like a slow wheel winding
up faster and faster until itgoes to full speed.
Well, like Lou was saying, doyou think?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
that if you could meditate, some type of
meditation you might be able todo for it.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I should try Well, I need to to try and start doing
that, but I haven't tried.
I don't know why I haven't, butI only started doing this sleep
meditation a couple nightsRight.
But I don't really wake up alot now, because that's one of
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the reasons.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I have Right, I got you Medical cannabis.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, whatever works, that's what helps me sleep like
a baby every night.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Oh yeah, bro, oh yeah , Works very well.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I think we talked on anotherepisode where we said the more
we get in touch not only withourselves, but with the planet,
the earth, the natural things,we were able to finally allow
our instincts and things to dowhat they normally should do,
because you get away from thatbecause of technology and
advancement in life.
So now you're a little relianton that stuff, when, if you've
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learned to at some point learnthose other skills while in that
type of life, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
If you can do it.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I think we all do to some extent, some better than
others.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, if you can do it.
Yeah, I think we all do to someextent, some better than others
.
Yeah, I think I'm going toreally seriously be super
vigilant to make that happen.
I'm not going to say I'm goingto have my third eye, I'm going
to meditate and float.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Try to just get it to work for you first.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I'm going to try different ways of meditating.
Remember.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I remember we talked about this.
We talked about this whenSuzanne was on.
Like, meditating doesn't alwayshave to be your stereotypical
Like sometimes just when you'remowing the lawn your mind gets
in that meditative spot.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yes, exactly right.
And I haven't had enough ofthat there's doing.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You get in that mental state just by doing
things Right.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So I haven't gotten into where I'm just doing and
you get into the zone of that.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Right, I haven't had a chance in a while.
Just things have been kind ofhectic for me so I haven't had a
chance to be able to find myone thing again, to be able to
just sit and have that moment inmy own head where I'm at that
kind of peace.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
That's what I got to start doing again.
The bicycle's getting ready tocome back out, Weather's
breaking.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yes weather's getting nice.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's good, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
That's going to be definite.
I'd like to get a bike.
Get one, bro, and you know what.
We can.
Meet up, lou and I used to getmine looked at and see if I can.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I definitely want to do it, for sure, and then we can
meditate together on our bikeswe could do on the bike and talk
to people on the bike trailthat's not meditation.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Why not?
He won't meditate.
What are those?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I'll just be like yeah that's great.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
What am I looking at?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, andyou're better.
There you go.
Oh, it took my picture.
You are looking at two mensitting in front of microphones,
likely in a recording studio orpodcast setting.
There it is.
There you go.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I love it.
I love it, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
That's freaking great , but yeah, so with that, my
peoples appreciate y'all beinghere.
Thank you for hanging out withus.
Yes, sir, don't hurt anybody,you're good with the metal.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, until next time Until next time,
Should I say ask it.
Ask it say goodbye, right, seeif it says it.
You want to say goodbye toeverybody on the podcast.
Wait, nope, maybe not Startplaying music instead.
Bye well, bye well.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
It's all good Fail.
Thank you all for listening.
Love, peace and hair grease.
Live long and prosper.
Go vegan, holla, we'll see younext time.
Hello and welcome to Common Crawford, the Jersey Guy
podcast.
I'm Lewis here with my boyKenny and, of course, the Jersey
Guy Tom.
What up, Gentlemen?
How are you?
How you doing?
All right, Eximilente.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I enjoy the swagger that Lou just had given.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm gonna try to do that as best.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I can super relaxed, super relaxed it's gotta be man?
Yes, but you know what?
We can see that and sense it.
Yeah, with our pineal gland,with our pineal gland.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's right, which is what we will be talking about
.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That was good, right, that was a good segue right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I always see stuff on like.
Of course it's on social mediaand most of the time it's
Instagram.
You know it's always got.
I try to put up healthy stuffwhen I share stuff from my thing
to Facebook.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So any stuff like that, meditation, anything like
that?
The pineal gland, supposedly,is your third eye right, and if
you know how to learn how to useit, that's what the thing is.
So now, uh, the pineal gland isa p-sides conical mass of
tissue behind the thirdventricle of the brain,
secreting a hormone-likesubstance in some mammals.
We happen to be one of those.
Some mammals, yes, sir, and um,that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Is it a real thing or is it a theory?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
No, it's a real thing , it is a real thing, it's a
real thing, but it's what thedefinition of third eye I think
is where it's it's melatoninproduction.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The thing is yeah, got it.
Circadian rhythms and potentiallinks to brain health, anatomy
of the function, the pinealglands, a role in the melatonin
production.
So it's there.
So that's where we get all thatVery cool.
Yeah, that's pretty wild.
So again, it's the.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's a chemical-producing gland Right,
and it produces what chemicals?
Is it just serotonin or is itseveral different?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, it's I'm sorry, it was melatonin production and
circadian rhythms and potentiallinks.
And here it says calcification.
Calcification excuse me, got ithow fluoride, diet and aging
affect the gland and whetherdecalification methods work.
(02:20):
There it is.
So then it's so I guess youknow, if you don't take, you
know, because you know that'sanother thing.
They talk about how fluoride.
You notice how that fluoride islike nobody's really for it.
Now they're trying to get itout of the water.
They're saying it's really notgood for you.
They say that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
But how come all the kid vitamins have fluoride in
them?
I know this, I'm saying so.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's two sides of the story, Like the ones that
the doctors prescribe.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They say the good stuff and then I mean like you,
actually ingest the fluorideRight Because it's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I always thought it was a good thing All my life.
We grew up with it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
As your teeth are growing and getting enameled,
your adult teeth are gettingfluoridated Right, supposedly
and making are gettingfluoridated supposedly, and
making them stronger and harderand less susceptible, so you
have a stronger enamel as anadult.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Remember we spoke on some of the things that our
country still has that othercountries don't.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right about foods that we make in this country
where they're banned in othercountries.
This is probably one of thosesame things, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Now it's coming out that it's falling into that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know what I mean what the, what the heck, because
I've been given this well, wecan look that up to my kid, but
it's so, I guess.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But it's like anything else though.
Yeah, how much of the bad canwe deal with?
Take, yeah, we, you know to toget the, the, the benefits.
Right, you know what I mean?
Right, like you see, half thecommercials you see on tv is
like because it's not.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's not.
That is true about the teeth.
It does do that for your teeth,but what?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
else what is it doing to you like is yeah, did it
give you your adhd?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
yeah you know what I'm saying.
Did it give me my arthritis tothe?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
yeah, you know, because of whatever genes we had
, like you know exactly mutants.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I know.
Well, check this out.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Neurochemistry and DMT Debate over whether the
pineal gland produces.
I'm going to try to pronouncethis dimethyloproteinaminin DMT
I'm probably saying that totallywrong which links to mystical
experiences, right?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You're right.
So, like you said, so it thepineal gland.
People have always said that itwhen you learn how to meditate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that'swhere your third eye is.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So then now, when you smoke weed, yeah Well, back in
the day it was people meditating.
You know silence, sound, youknow whatever things that they
were doing.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Well, think about how , when you're meditating, it's
supposed to be like a superrelaxed state.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Right how, when you're meditating, it's supposed
to be like a super relaxedstate.
If your pineal gland producesmelatonin, then that has
something probably to do withwhat happens when you're
meditating, is it startsproducing that chemical, exactly
, and you start to get thatdream state maybe and that's why
you're able to, when youmeditate, to get, because I tell
you've done meditations beforeand like you get into some weird
(05:25):
places.
Right, it's really weird,especially the guided meditation
ones, right, right, like you,your imagination takes over so
vividly sometimes, right, likeyou, you could like like they're
like, oh, and you're in aforest and in the tree.
You get closer to the tree lineand you see a door in a tree
(05:47):
and you open the door and you gointo the tree right, and you're
in a living room inside of atree you know like and like you,
you, you, you're there, youknow what I mean exactly, and
that's the whole thing, so thatthat's also kind of hypnosis
a little bit involved in there,but it's voluntary people think
hypnosis as like barks, like adog yeah, like that's not.
(06:08):
Yeah, like hypnosis is is verydifferent.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's just, uh, putting you in this like
dreamlike state where you'relike you're, you're like in a
vivid dream, right so now it's ahow you get there though, right
, right, so that then, like youknow it, people that go to the
gym, right, they say that theyfeel this.
You know, uh, almost euphoria,endorphins, because the
endorphins and they're gettingin that workout, and you know,
(06:33):
runners, they get the runnershigh.
You know saying so, all thesethings that you know that that's
probably how it is, too, whenwe, you know, if we learn how to
meditate to the point wherewe're going to open up our third
eye, you know what I mean.
And I mean, dude, I'm gonnatell you what.
When they say, spiritually,that the third eye helps, you
(06:58):
see things, read people, youknow saying, um, feel yourself
that you can.
You know, like you just seepeople's official aura.
You know, like you see thecolor on their stuff.
You're seeing, right, theirenergy.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You're seeing their energy exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So now, how freaking cool is that you know what I?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
mean what about that expression?
I've been hearing this a lot inreference to this stuff.
When it says to let go so like,so, let's say in reference to
this stuff.
When it says to let go so likeso, let's say sometimes when I'm
laying in bed and I want to goto sleep, right, I can find
myself Sounds so Jedi-like.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, I know right yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And then I just lay down All right, let me let go.
So I'm trying to listen.
Instead of one noise, I'mtrying to find as many as I can
find.
Wow, while I was sleeping I hadmy mind just bouncing Listen
and then, before you know it,you're out.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well, don't they say that you should concentrate on
the one Right?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
but doing that doesn't work for me because I
still wander.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
But then how did your tinnitus work so?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I just let go and I allowed myself to have all my
senses, just feel everythingaround me and then just use it
that way, rather than try tofocus it on the one and just let
it all work.
That's wild that's wild atleast, that's how right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
No, that makes sense.
I I hear you, so now I'm surethere's more than one way of
achieving that oh yeah,definitely, I believe there is
too all day long.
So now, scientifically, thoughmodern science does not support
the spiritual interpretation ofthe pineal gland, it is a
primarily viewed.
It is primarily viewed as anendocrine organ that plays a
(08:32):
crucial role in regulating uh,circadian rhythms and sleep,
like you said before.
Right, so then to me doing thesound therapy that then that
would trigger that too.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Absolutely, I'm sure it does.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And then you know, like I said again, see, we're
freaking geniuses and we don'teven know it, because we've
talked about like this kind ofstuff and other things and it's
wild how all the everything'sconnected, Everything that we
say is so connected.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Because it doesn't mean you have to.
You could do all of them, oryou could do a combination of
them.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Crazy, though, how certain things like sound.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Like, again, I've done some of this spiritual
stuff.
I've gotten with Suzanne, we'vegotten together and like they
do like this, like we went tothis one, it was like a shaman
one and they like bang the drumRight.
And that vibration at that tuneis get your body to start, your
brain to start secreting, likethose endorphins and all that
from your pineal gland.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right, so that's the whole part about it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
There's something, that frequency, that actually
gets your brain to produce thatwhich is wild yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Because that's what they say is, along with
meditation and that, but yourwhole, your whole body too, if
like, if you're what your wholebody too, like your chi right.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
My instructor would say come from your chi, meaning
get it from your center.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
The nerd in me wants to know the scientific.
I know it does that and it'slike magic, right.
But I want to know thescientific part of it.
What does it do?
Is it right?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But I want to know the scientific part of it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
What does it do Is?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
it frequency your body just like Just allowing
your body to tune into what'saround you is really what it is.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But that's the thing you said.
It's a force man.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
But the scientific isn't the sound.
Yeah, the scientific is justthat it's something there and,
like I said before, when you'redoing something that you enjoy,
so, like you go to the dojo, youknow you um when you're reading
something.
Yeah, you know texting up onstudying or whatever.
My music yeah me, you know,when I'm driving like it's just
those things, those moments thatwe have, that are our
(10:34):
quote-unquote meditation, andthat's what science says is what
brings those things out,because that's what makes us
happy.
We're in a happy place when wedo those things.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, yeah so that's so, that's the scientific, but
don't forget about yeah, right,but don't forget right.
So then, going back to thespiritual part, what is with
meditation and all the chakrasand all that and focusing your
energy.
Yeah, I believe that's prettypowerful stuff, because if you
can get into that, find thatspot and channel into that, they
(11:04):
say it's almost as if you'reable to know what it's like when
you're going to die, kind of.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, right, right, the closest thing you'll get to.
Okay, as far as I mean, if youcan get your meditation to that
point, you might be able toexperience that experience.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, see, then I'm like I don't know, Remember what
I was telling you earlier.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I was telling you earlier, I was telling you.
There was a gentleman onInstagram and he was talking
about how, when you pass away,you could either get recycled,
go back, follow the light you gothrough, you get recycled and
then you come back.
Or when you get there, insteadof going towards the light, turn
around and you'll see theuniverse.
Then you could decide to gohome home, and it'll take you
(11:46):
right where you're from.
As far as your home isconcerned, this way they the way
they said it.
I'm like well, that's prettyfreaking wild right.
Who knew that you could turnaround when you're there?
Like oh, wait a minute, excuseme, yeah nice light.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Hold on a minute hold on.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I want to go this way , yo right I heard that, but
that's pretty cool, right?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I mean, I heard that theory too about turning around.
Instead, they'll don't go intolight, turn around and go home.
They said now, but yeah, so,but, but home, like where your
origin is before being here onearth yeah right, but exactly
yeah, that's exactly rightthere's meaning that as much as
as in this theory we came fromstars man as much as there is as
(12:25):
afterlife there's also a beforelife that we don't know right
how many times and how manytimes did we go to light?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
yeah, yeah, exactly.
And recycle.
How many times have I beenrecycled?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's probably why you'recrazy now.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Now you know now, you know, now, you know turn around
, yeah, turn around this time.
Remember that, pay attention,bro, turn around.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, this time remember that.
Pay attention, bro, turn around, don't forget that shit.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, keep your head on the swivel everyone listening
.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep your head on the swivel
right, look around.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
But it was like a positive thing, it was like you
could do that.
You could go towards the lightwhich you know.
You'll see people that you'vemissed and lost and everything,
and then you'll just into thethat's what the whole idea was
that's one version that's onetheory of it, right?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
so I'm sure there's many different, you know right,
so that then, now is it a matterof you becoming, you being so
in tune, like is it only thepeople that have actually well,
what we believe to have openedthe third eye that can do that?
No, that's not necessarily whenyou die.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
When you die, you know, most people never do that
stuff.
I'm assuming when they passaway, you know, or they have a
near-death experience orsomething they come back and
they have, they can tell youwhat they saw.
Right.
It's basically you couldn't besomething that would happen if
you were meditating, you know.
Think of it that.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But they didn't have to.
So you haven't had thatexperience, that near-death
experience.
Thank God, I don't think so.
So then now, when it gets tothat time for you, then is it
that are you still going to have?
I guess we'll say thisconversation in your head, in
your spiritual mind.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, my views have not changed since as long as
I've been alive, that you'llknow to turn around and look the
other way.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Oh, now that it's in my mind.
I think I know that's what I'masking I might do it.
I don't know if I would be ableto say that I hope so.
I hope I remember.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I hope I don't go to his life and go.
Oh, I forgot.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Like oh man.
I didn't want to make the lastWait.
Hey, if we can recycle, I canget a do-over?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Can I get a transfer?
I want to go down.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, just imagine.
That.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Blue, no red.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Oh, that's right, that's right, bobby Python.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yes, yes, oh my God, that's great, but yeah, you know
.
So it's the gland.
It's a gland Right In the brain.
It's the gland.
It's a gland Right In the brainIf we go by what you guys were
just saying we are the beingsand we're just Mysterious in its
own way.
Yes, right, yeah, and we'rejust in this meat bag right now
(14:54):
for us to live here.
Move on to the next place, andnow-.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
This is just a step in life, which also lines up
with simulation theory that thisplace is the simulation that we
placed this where, the lifethat we're in, because if
there's before life and afterlife, that means we dip in here
and then go back out.
You know what I'm saying whichkind of is like a simulation, if
(15:20):
you think about it.
So that theory that you'retalking about, there's a theory
that adds to that, where it'snot really the simulation theory
, but it's like we live in thefifth dimension our, our souls
our, our essence we are the soullike right, and we go here to
experience life in the 3d worldand blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
(15:42):
, and then we learn our lessonand then we go back out and
we've like changed.
Like you know, we're differentnow, we're improved.
Hope you are or worse.
Yeah, you know what I mean,which is like heaven or hell,
like you're a worse person oryou're a better person, and not
hell being or heaven being aplace.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Your person or you're a better person and not helping
, uh, or having being a place.
Well, I don't know your, yourmind.
You know you're in a betterplace now you're.
You know you've improved oryou've digressed you know what
if we?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
so what if as a person?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
so then you go back here, you say.
Then you go back and berecycled because, uh, you know
what I'm not improved, I gottago back and you know well.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So then what if everybody's here, voluntary,
everybody that's here.
We go by your, your theory.
Right now we all have our thirdeye is open.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We're there, we're meditating where those just
don't know how to use it, that'sall no, that we all know how to
use it, and this is here.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
This is our um like you said, simulation, this is
our simulation we'll go tobecause we're all linked, yeah,
so we're all trying to be.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This is our penance.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, we're here to improve ourselves.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And we have the third eye power.
That's an interesting theory wejust don't have we're not good
enough.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's not really heaven or hell, it's just like
it's that predatory.
It's like oh, it's like, oh.
I still got to work on myself alittle bit.
You know, I did this in lifeand it never I never like got
past it.
So I'm going to go back.
I need to learn another lesson,but then you might have another
problem.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You know, it might have something else that might
happen to you in life.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
But then now, here's why I have a problem with that,
though Only because so manythings change so many things, we
, we evolution has made usdifferent creatures every
generation.
I'll say you know what I mean.
So, like you know, for us, whenwe would that's like you know
ride your bike and fall off thebike and it's like whatever, and
(17:35):
get up, get back, up now thekids are like no, no, lou, tom,
don't feel that way.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, your feelings, talkto me about your feelings.
Meanwhile, for us we're likeget the fuck out of here, get
your ass up, go do whatever, noton everything.
I'm not saying, you know we do.
We talk a lot about them.
You know when people arefeeling, you know in their
feelings and you need to expressand take care of yourself.
(17:55):
I'm what we would.
You know, some people considerbullshit, others think it's a
big deal.
You know, is this our penance?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You know, and that third eye, like you're saying,
like this is our simulation, sowe haven't gotten over that you
know, yeah, yeah, if you're sentback again, if you go back
again, it's because of somethingthat you weren't, you didn't
accomplish.
In you get to something thatyou, where you actually became a
better person maybe Okay, youknow what I mean.
Yeah, now do you feel Givingyou another chance so you could
(18:29):
either go somewhere else because, listen, they've had near-death
experiences of people who'vetried to kill themselves.
Right, and when they prescribedwhat they saw when they came
back, it wasn't good, no, no, itwas bad.
Oh, really, yeah, why it wasn'tgood?
no, no, it was bad oh reallyyeah, it was dark, it was dreary
because they took their ownlife right.
It was sad.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It was the worst, like the worst, like depression
you could ever have but thenthat goes to, I think, what I
had asked earlier, maybedifferently, maybe I didn't own
in my head, but anyway, likethen, the last thing you were
feeling going through dealingwith that made you commit
suicide.
Is that what?
(19:10):
That's what you're seeing,because you left on a bad note.
It's like you turn around andyou fall asleep in a bad mood
and you're going to be, you knowif you're already depressed and
you're already suicidal, it'sjust right, so then it's all of
it.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So now, when you're recycling, this one's saying at
one time right.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
So when you come back and you're recycled you, you
come back.
That you know.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm saying yeah, yeah , you come back with that mental
, with that feeling, that ideathis is what I'm saying, you're
right so hopefully you learnright and you come back look
we're not gonna really knowuntil it's time right right, oh
no, I do believe we will move tothe next step.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
There is another step .
Speaker 3 (19:46):
If the atheist is the correct theory.
You're not going to know,You're just going to go.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Oh shit, I shouldn't have turned around.
Well, if we believe indimensions and all that other
time, who's to say that when wedo die, now we graduated to the
next dimension, which is thenext step, or another type of
life more spiritual?
Yeah, you know, it could bedescribed in any way when you
think about it.
Right, it's interesting tofigure out.
(20:14):
I do believe something willhappen.
I believe I'll see people I'velost before me and my animals
and all that, yeah, but thenagain I don't know.
I don before me and my animalsand all that, but then again I
don't know I don't know, I don'tremember dying, but maybe I'm
going to try this time.
See what happens.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
No, no, no, no no, yeah, I don't know, man, I don't
know, I don't know I think Idon't know, Tom, you messed me
up with that theory, bro.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know what I mean.
Sorry, I put it out there.
I put it out there Now, I just.
Yeah, it's not like no.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You know.
So again, if this is and we'resaying spiritually that the
pineal gland, you know, maybethat's the key to everybody
being healthy.
Maybe you know what I mean.
Maybe that's what I mean, Maybe, Like that's what it is, Like
part of the simulation is youknow what I'm saying.
(21:09):
These are the things that we,you know I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, I think it's good to you know, meditate and
stuff like that it's healthy andpeople feel better.
I mean studies have shown likeit's like help people, even
people even physically like,with their physical health,
because it reduces stress andall that.
Yeah, absolutely so.
That's like all that stuff youknow that actually, so it
actually does lead to physicalhealth a healthy pineal gland.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, so meditation or listen, if you can, if you
learn how to do so, think ofwhere that thing is in your head
.
Not only do you have to nowpractice to try to figure out
how to use it right.
First you got to figure out howto do that, so that alone has
to be hard, right?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hell yeah, because none of us really feel that we
are ever not.
I'm talking about us right here.
We don't ever feel that kind ofrelaxed, we don't feel that
we've reached it yet.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think maybe we have in certain things, like you
said earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And that also talks about enlightenment, right,
right, what the Buddhists talkabout, like you have.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Is that what we're talking about Right right Going
in that direction.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Then that's opening that third eye that's supposed
to be Is that like it's like astate of being Right Like in
latent.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Right, I don't know what that is.
That's like opening the pinealgland all the way.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Right, exactly.
So now here's what a wild partis.
Now I'm seeing more.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is it supposed to be like a feeling, like a high?
Or is it just like thisknowledge it's just a knowledge.
Yeah, it's a knowledge, becausenow I've seen more monks.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
More monks have come to the mainstream.
A lot more shamans have come upinto the mainstream.
Is it just a hoax, Like youknow, these guys just trying to
make money off of people or arethey really giving you that?
Like?
I follow a monk.
He's a younger dude.
He's not even an old guy, Ithink.
I know you, Everything'sconnected man, the, a younger
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dude, he's not even an old guyand, um, I think I know
everything's connected man.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The universe is connected, we're connected.
That's what he said.
You might have shared stuff,you know.
I think maybe you say, if youput the energy out there, if you
think about negative things alltime, that's all you're gonna
attract to yourself it's like soeverything you're, you're in
control, it's just a matter oflearning how to steer your ship
right.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
What this guy is saying.
Yeah, you know this particularmonk and there's more of them
coming out.
There's more of them being thepositive or trying to give you
that positive thought process.
He's a monk that I follow on.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We follow on as well.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
The young guy.
He's a younger monk guy.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, he does he tells you about how you should.
You know how to focus and youknow if you're going to do this
or that.
He's playing him straight aboutit.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, because there's a couple of shamans that I've
seen too Really good.
Yeah, that are pretty cool.
Here's something.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I want to read to you guys, okay.
Because I was always trying todescribe how I feel, right,
spiritually.
Okay, okay, how I feelSpiritually.
People who are spirituallyminded tend to suffer from
anxiety and depression more.
You know why?
Because their eyes are open tothe world that is in need of
repair.
They literally have anincreased ability to feel the
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emotions of people around them.
That's exactly on the money ofhow I feel.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's being like an empath.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
As people, I feel, yeah, I can get emotional on the
drop of a dime, if something,if I think about something,
that's you know has to do withthe planet or whatever, right it
.
Just you're an empathic person.
I try.
Well, I I believe I am.
Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
In some sense it works.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I just Notice things now and it hurts you when you
think about it and you're like,oh man.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You can't do nothing.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You're powerless.
You know, it's just like afrustration almost, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
But that's what I mean, I get it.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
But that's what I'm saying about what we're talking
about now.
You know your spirituality, theother one's control, you have
to steer it.
So if you go negative, that'swho you're going to be.
If you go positive or try tostay in the middle but that's
life, you know what I mean dothe best you can.
Hopefully, you know, at the end, yeah, you come out better.
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On the other end, you know, youfeel good about it or whatever.
Hopefully you know, you?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Yeah, because the one thing I haven't been able to
find was you know if,scientifically, there's a way to
get that pineal gland up andpumping.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you could do.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
There are actually YouTube videos on there where
they tell, they tell you how tomeditate and what to do in order
to well no, no, that'smeditation, that's spiritual.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
It's not like you go to the doctor he's going to turn
around like bing smack you inyour forehead.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well, serotonin, serotonin.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, but right.
So then it's just you takingpills Dopamine too, right, but
it's just you taking the pill orthat medication,
over-the-counter stuff.
It's not that the scientistscould turn around, like I said,
and pin you in the forehead andit's going to be like now it's
open, now these are the thingsthat you do.
This is your physical therapyto make this stay happening.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I find the best time to do it is when I'm sleeping,
because I'm laying down, I canclose my eyes and I, just like I
said earlier, I was focusing.
You're focusing, don't you everfeel like when you lock into
something and then, the nextthing you know, you don't even
remember that you fell asleep,right?
Yes, and then when?
you wake up you don't realize it.
You remember what you weredoing before you fell asleep,
(26:43):
right?
Yeah, but your mind, if you tryto focus it in and not fight
against it, and just you knowwhat I'm saying?
Yeah, at least for me anyway,because we're all different, we
all have to figure out our ownway of working that out.
You know what I started doing.
I started doing.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I started hypnotizing myself to sleep.
Really, I do a guidedmeditation.
Well, it's kind of like aguided meditation In my head.
I go, you know, my head'srelaxed, my eyebrows are
starting to get heavy.
You're talking to yourself.
You know how they do thatduring a meditation yeah.
My elbows are starting to getloose, relaxed, the muscle
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fibers are loose.
I say it to myself in my head.
You know what I mean, right,right, and you actually start to
relax and then falling deeperinto sleep.
You can actually meditateyourself.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It works.
That's what I'm saying, and itworks.
There's so many different waysyou can do it right.
That's a great way to do it.
That's awesome.
I never even.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, I don't think I'd be able to do that for me,
you know that's what I'm saying,like you say it's like a
practice, you can't listen tothat sound it's too soothing for
you.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, yeah, maybe that's the thing.
Maybe you shoulders got allrelaxed.
See here, past it.
Just I'm trying to hear.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Past it let it be on, but try to hear past it as well
I, I mean I want to go to likethe sound therapy with the bowls
, like I did.
That too, I want to do it againI think that is something else.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That sound does that frequency, does something
absolutely does something right,and you know what I'm saying.
And there's a scientific sothat's why I think, when people
are skeptics, that they don'tunderstand like it does
something to the certain, to thechemical production your brain,
it activates it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It does something well, and that's the thing you
know.
I bugged out that, yeah, it is,and it's a literal scientific
because like that sound musthave a frequency right.
It has to, and that's whatremember.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Lou was talking about the sound frequencies.
We're talking about that inanother episode.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, because it was so.
Right now, science alreadyknows that there's, and your
brain?
Adjusts and it goes to that andfocuses in but science already
knows that there's a tone, asound, there's sound waves that
you know flow through space,even though there's no, you know
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atmosphere in space.
But it's just like there'ssounds, there's these tones that
we can pick up.
There's tones, there's sounds,vibrations here on the planet,
and when we are off physically,we right, we we're not right.
You know what I'm saying we'rein pain, we're right, you know
feeling, whatever issue theuniverse is not in balance right
, so that at that moment for us,everybody in particular, so
then going to and then you feeleverybody else, because somebody
else could throw you off.
Exactly Right.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Except then.
Now you go to the sound things.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
That one person.
That's always negative.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Exactly.
Yeah, somebody's on an A minorand you know you're on a B Right
and you you're on a B and it'sthrowing your whole vibe off.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And then there are times right when, think about it
, you get through it without aproblem, right, sometimes you
can you just you notice thatit's not even affecting you.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
You don't even hear it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You were able to tune it out.
Maybe that's the part of it,that's the pineal gland where
you're able to have that senseversus the pineal gland where
you're able to have that sense.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, versus, because not talking about it's easy to
get annoyed, right, it's easy toget pissed off and allow
yourself to get like you know.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, you know, like, right away, somebody out, then
having the discipline to try tofocus in, if we, you know, right
, like my cousin right now.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
She went and she had knee surgery.
My cousin jesse just out and uh, she, she's having a hard time
to get up and walk around and tomove around and all that stuff
because it hurts.
Yeah Right, but I believe thatshe's not doing, she's not
trying hard enough, only becauseI know her, you know what I'm
(30:33):
saying and I know that she'scapable.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Does she listen to this podcast?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, oh man, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I know that she can get upand go.
Yeah, oh man, yeah, yeah.
So I know that she can get up.
I already told her that I wason the phone with her and I was
like yo, just get your ass upand start walking up and on the
stairs, like what are you doing?
Like this isn't like for you.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
You gotta be so comfortable you gotta fix for a
reason.
So now you know.
So now bear what you got.
You got to bear it out now,right?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
so now for me, because she is, you know, a
spirit not like religious, butshe is, you know, a spirit not
like religious, but she is aspiritual person, you know.
And I'm wondering now, you knowdoing the sound meditation, her
meditating she can relax.
It would be much better for herbeing able to actually move her
knee during a meditation youknow what I'm saying During, you
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know, a sound bath, duringsomething that would end up
getting you know, because mycousin, she's intuitive as a
motherfucker, you know what Imean.
So I'm thinking that she, youknow, she could, you know, get
to that pineal gland and, youknow, make herself better With
the universe.
Right, exactly.
And she can dude, she canChannel in Because she's a pain
(31:36):
in the ass.
She knows what I'm talkingabout, her too, so she's a pain
in the ass.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
She knows what I'm talking about, her too, so she's
going to probably call me later.
We do it to our own selves.
We're stubborn, right, we allhave our own thing.
Sometimes a person who's ableto do that easily, maybe that
one time they're not being ableto, and that one person who has
a hard time is able to get themto see the other way to do it,
right, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'sweird, yeah, because we're all
different you know all differentpersonalities.
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It takes different things,different life experiences right
well, we're all differenteverything comes into you know,
you gotta, I think you have totake all that into account right
, oh, yeah, definitely that'swhat I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I think we're all different, but the same.
You know, it's just a matter ofthe process to get to that
point.
You know, I'm saying, like, theway that tom thinks about it,
the way you think about it, theway that tom thinks about it,
the way you think about it, theway that I think about it, we're
thinking about the same thing.
We hear the words, but all thewords sound different to us,
right?
You know what I mean?
We understanding them differentwhen we learn, when we're in
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school, and we're learningsomething I didn't understand
when the teacher said that'sblack and it's got lines on it,
and then you heard lines on theblack, and then you heard color,
what you know what I'm saying?
And it's like it's all thosethings that we think you know
that it's like oh, because, likeI said, there's conversations
that I'll have with you andyou're like wait, what, what the
(32:52):
hell are you talking about?
And and tom will be like oh,yeah, yeah, yeah and you're like
vice versa.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, same thing, with all you know what I'm
saying, right?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
exactly.
You know what I mean so thenfor sure that's why you know
again, yeah, man, that's not abad idea for for us to to really
, uh, probably tap into thispineal gland like serious shit,
man, this should be somethingthat everybody gives a shot at.
You know, like I said,scientists, they can't disprove
anything, they don't believe anyof that science is different.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They need fact.
That's the whole thing aboutscience and so they but there is
science behind it, right, thereis I think it's coming in your
brain triggers I think scienceis coming around, though,
because they sought to realizethere is something else and
there's something else going on.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Produces mixed together right.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You know, yeah, because it's the endorphins,
yeah, that help you do betterwhen you're feeling better and
you know those endorphinskicking.
Like I was saying earlier withtom, you know it.
The gym heads you know peoplego to the gym and they have that
.
You know that they get to thatpoint where they're just you
know the, what I said, therunners high.
You know the, the endorphinsthat are pumped out.
(33:59):
You know you.
Look at the people that aresuper thrill seekers.
You know they're.
You know the sky diving, the,the just all those crazy sports.
You know the downhill racingyou know the, the BMX guys that
doing all the Like, all thosethings.
You know that gets it in there.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
And that's their meditation.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Well yeah, they're zoned in right?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, because a lot of those guys they get in.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
That's their thing, that's their groove.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
So that's their happy place, right when you know God
forbid.
But when they get hurt, theywere in a great moment.
They were in a good place intheir head most of the time.
You know what I'm sayingBecause they're doing what they
love to do and they heal fairlyquick.
You know what I'm saying.
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They're not just they'relooking, They've already gotten
in there.
They're doing the physicaltraining.
They're doing all the thingsthat they got to do to get back
out there because that's wheretheir happy place is.
So now their body's kicking outall those.
You know all the good stuff.
You know what I'm saying forthem to to get back in out there
to go and do all the the stuffthat they love to do and get
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back in same thing like therunner's high.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's just .
It's exactly that's crazy whenyou get that second wind.
Yeah, it's a wild thing 30miles in.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
All of a sudden you're just like yeah, exactly
yeah, that never happened to me.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Really Well, I never did it for running Me either, I
never did it for running.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm not a big running person.
I've run a few miles, I've donethat before, but I'd rather
just I haven't run in years.
Do the cardio.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
But I could bike ride , walk.
Bike ride.
I could bike ride.
I can't do the running, therunning, the running's.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, but I could same thing with biking.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I could.
I'm just not a big fan of it.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Right yeah, eventually your endorphins just
kick in when I was a kid I hadthat, but that was bike riding
through the five boroughs.
You know what I'm saying andit's literally uphill, going
uptown into Manhattan and thendownhill coming back down and
coming back into Brooklyn.
You know what I mean.
It's insane, but I had thatsecond wind, granted, I was
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young and your body doesn'treally feel that kind of
whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Did you ever go?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
to Staten Island too.
No, because I didn't have the—yeah, dude, no, no, I didn hill
because no, because I didn'thave the.
Yeah, dude, no, no, I didn't gobecause uh to go over the
bridge.
Uh, was verizon.
You can't do it with a bike.
No, not on the verizon, notthen you couldn't.
Yeah, and then now to get ontothe ferry.
Well, back then, to get on thestaten on the ferry, you had to
pay, and you know, a lot oftimes I just had it in my pocket
yeah, yeah, yeah.
(36:35):
No, I wasn't gonna make thathappen, you know, until I got
older, but then by that time Iwas-.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
the Verrazano Bridge you couldn't cross, yeah no, not
on a bicycle, but by walking orwhatever.
No, I know the GeorgeWashington Bridge.
You can GW, yes, yes, yes, Inever went over to GW, though.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's really funny?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
No, because when I went up go to Spanish Harlem, so
I would make the right, not theleft.
Could you bring him on thesubway?
Yes, you could take yourbicycles on the subway.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So if you really wanted to, if you did want to go
to Jersey, it wouldn't be thatbad.
You just take the subway to,like you know, to GW, to GW, and
then just get out, because it'sright there and then just ride
your bike in Jersey.
Right, yeah, you could nicerthere.
There's a lot of stuff in FortLee to do, but like yeah, I know
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.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
But see, that's the third eye, because now you're
going to sit there and you'relike oh, I think if you're in
tune with your body Right andyour mind and you're in a good
place.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
You'll have those moments.
You'll have those moments, yes.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
You, you know, yeah right, you'll have those moments
where you you're zoned in.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You had those moments where you're not, you're not
doing, whatever's going on, butthen you figure it out and you
just work through it.
Yeah, yeah, but you have to andI think you're right.
You're a million percent onthat one, bro.
Million percent, millionpercent.
Listen, I, I, I know I keepsaying it.
I've been doing it little bylittle for me.
You know, when we've talkedabout meditation in the past and
you know just that, getting tothat relaxation, you know
however way it is that I get toit.
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Yeah, it's harder than Ithought it was going to be.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's really.
That was the thing too, for metoo.
That's why I was saying to youearlier.
I said, okay, if this way isnot working.
And they say to let go right,meaning not to try to channel,
or to I was like, okay, let go.
So I just listen, lay there,listen to everything your mind
(38:30):
starts to you feel it bouncingaround, but in a good way, right
, because now you're focusing,you're reaching out almost in a
sense, and you're hearing allthe other different things going
on, right, right.
So now that's like it was andI'm out cold, I'm sleeping.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, you know.
(38:50):
So I know it's working.
So so for me, because I canjust fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I can just like you know well, that's great too if
you go at times she falls asleeplike, yeah, as soon as she hits
the pillow out.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
My brain is on overdrive, my brain is already.
I have to because I'm.
My mind is active it's all overthe place, even when I'm
sleeping.
Now, if I'm super tired, I'llcrash, but I'm tired, but my
mind is still wandering.
I have to focus in and do whatI was saying earlier.
That's why to kind of just likeokay, just let it go and and
(39:22):
submit and go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Do you need to do the same thing really, like I know
you said that you have like asleep apnea, not apnea um
insomnia insomnia yeah but Ihave sleep maintenance insomnia,
so I don't have trouble goingto sleep.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Okay, it's I think, I ?
If yeah, I wake up, and which?
Speaker 3 (39:39):
is why I now, as soon as you wake up, do you find
yourself that you're thinking oftoo many things?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, my brain just activates.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Really.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
So you couldn't go right back to bed and just lay
down after that?
See, I can, that I can do.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
My brain just goes you're on.
That sucks.
It's gradual, though.
It just warms up like an oven.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
It's like See, maybe that's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
if you do meditation, it's like a slow wheel winding
up faster and faster until itgoes to full speed.
Well, like Lou was saying, doyou think?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
that if you could meditate, some type of
meditation you might be able todo for it.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I should try Well, I need to to try and start doing
that, but I haven't tried.
I don't know why I haven't, butI only started doing this sleep
meditation a couple nightsRight.
But I don't really wake up alot now, because that's one of
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the reasons.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I have Right, I got you Medical cannabis.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, whatever works, that's what helps me sleep like
a baby every night.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Oh yeah, bro, oh yeah , Works very well.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I think we talked on anotherepisode where we said the more
we get in touch not only withourselves, but with the planet,
the earth, the natural things,we were able to finally allow
our instincts and things to dowhat they normally should do,
because you get away from thatbecause of technology and
advancement in life.
So now you're a little relianton that stuff, when, if you've
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learned to at some point learnthose other skills while in that
type of life, that's huge.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
If you can do it.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I think we all do to some extent, some better than
others.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, if you can do it.
Yeah, I think we all do to someextent, some better than others
.
Yeah, I think I'm going toreally seriously be super
vigilant to make that happen.
I'm not going to say I'm goingto have my third eye, I'm going
to meditate and float.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Try to just get it to work for you first.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I'm going to try different ways of meditating.
Remember.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I remember we talked about this.
We talked about this whenSuzanne was on.
Like, meditating doesn't alwayshave to be your stereotypical
Like sometimes just when you'remowing the lawn your mind gets
in that meditative spot.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yes, exactly right.
And I haven't had enough ofthat there's doing.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You get in that mental state just by doing
things Right.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
So I haven't gotten into where I'm just doing and
you get into the zone of that.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Right, I haven't had a chance in a while.
Just things have been kind ofhectic for me so I haven't had a
chance to be able to find myone thing again, to be able to
just sit and have that moment inmy own head where I'm at that
kind of peace.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
That's what I got to start doing again.
The bicycle's getting ready tocome back out, Weather's
breaking.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yes weather's getting nice.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
That's good, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
That's going to be definite.
I'd like to get a bike.
Get one, bro, and you know what.
We can.
Meet up, lou and I used to getmine looked at and see if I can.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I definitely want to do it, for sure, and then we can
meditate together on our bikeswe could do on the bike and talk
to people on the bike trailthat's not meditation.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Why not?
He won't meditate.
What are those?
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I'll just be like yeah that's great.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
What am I looking at?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, andyou're better.
There you go.
Oh, it took my picture.
You are looking at two mensitting in front of microphones,
likely in a recording studio orpodcast setting.
There it is.
There you go.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
I love it.
I love it, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
That's freaking great , but yeah, so with that, my
peoples appreciate y'all beinghere.
Thank you for hanging out withus.
Yes, sir, don't hurt anybody,you're good with the metal.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, until next time Until next time,
Should I say ask it.
Ask it say goodbye, right, seeif it says it.
You want to say goodbye toeverybody on the podcast.
Wait, nope, maybe not Startplaying music instead.
Bye well, bye well.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
It's all good Fail.
Thank you all for listening.
Love, peace and hair grease.
Live long and prosper.
Go vegan, holla, we'll see younext time.
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