June 11, 2025 • 44 mins
Ever wonder what happens when three friends start asking life's biggest questions? This episode takes us on an unexpected journey through philosophical territory that's both profound and deeply personal.
The conversation unfolds organically as we tackle what we truly can't live without. While phones and technology seem like obvious answers, we discover that electricity might be civilization's most essential element – without it, we'd quickly descend into chaos. This realization prompts us to consider what's genuinely necessary versus what we've merely grown accustomed to having.
When faced with choosing between truth and comfort, we unanimously lean toward truth – even when uncomfortable – as the foundation for authentic living. This perspective reflects a hard-earned wisdom: that knowing reality, however difficult, ultimately serves us better than comfortable illusions.
The discussion delves into whether identity is fixed or evolving, with personal anecdotes revealing how we change throughout our lives while maintaining core elements of who we are. We explore the fascinating question of whether we truly transform or simply become better at masking our inherent flaws, concluding that awareness of shortcomings often catalyzes genuine growth.
Perhaps most captivating are our unexplainable experiences – from spiritual encounters to mysterious atmospheric phenomena dubbed "the cloud factory" – reminding us how much remains mysterious despite our supposedly rational world. These personal accounts highlight the limitations of our understanding and invite listeners to reflect on their own unexplained moments.
Join us for this thought-provoking episode that balances deep introspection with plenty of laughs. Whether you're questioning your own priorities or just enjoy philosophical conversations among friends, you'll find something that resonates with your own journey through this unpredictable life.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
what's going on, gentlemen, not much nothing no,
that's good yeah, everything'sgroovy man all right enjoying,
enjoying, uh hanging outchilling the weather.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, no right, that was like that was.
She was forced.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was being weird.
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, that waslike that was.
She was forced.
I was being weird.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm just saying, bro, you made us nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
He should be weird.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, sorry, all right, so go ahead, lou.
What are we doing today?
Oh well, oh, you want me to doit and just, all of us are going
to have, like you know, acouple of the cuff.
A few are going to be thatwe've read and picked out of
this, just random search.
So, okay, yep, so we in there,like swimwear baby, want to go
(00:52):
first, Lou, or?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
you want to go first, tom?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
no, no oh, you don't want to go first, all right, all
right, okay, okay, okay, okay,says this one here.
I was bugging out with this one, right.
What is the one thing youcannot live without?
What is the one thing I cannotlive without?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah it was sort of just one of those things.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
My phone, your phone, dude.
Are you serious, man, godly?
So I know for a fact I can livewithout my phone.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah yeah, well, I have when there was time, oh, no
, no, no, I took it recently.
You said when there was time.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh, no, no, no, I'm talking recent.
One thing you can live without.
So I know for a fact becausewhen I was on vacation a couple
of weeks ago I was without myphone, took the phone, threw it
into the safe and I didn't touchthat phone until I made the one
stop, just to text the kids.
But I was good without it,right, you know what I mean.
It was just a matter ofchecking to see the kids.
(01:45):
So phone, I used it as if itwas a landline.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know whatI mean.
When I got to PR I was like hey, childrens, and then said it
was up to them, and then it wentright back on the ship and
party was over bro, I didn'tsame exact thing you did when I
went on vacation.
I was like I don't want it on meI don't want to do it, I freak
(02:08):
out, I was good with it, but youreally you don't think you
could do without your phone.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I mean if I could.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But it would be really fucking miserable.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I could.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That was great dude.
Holy shit, that was awesome.
What about you?
What do you think?
You can't live without.
I could do the phone right.
But what one thing do you thinkyou couldn't live without?
Cause like for me?
I don't think I could livewithout.
I don't know, that's a hard one.
Now we're talking.
We're talking not like family orfriends or people, we're just
talking like you know, like Idon't think I could have a
(02:43):
necessity, yeah, something likewell, we were considering
necessity, so I don't think Icould live without a vehicle, a
car, a car, a bike?
Like I don't think I could.
You know, motor vehicle, right,I don't think I could live
without that because I don't.
I'm not, I don't think I'm ahorse and buggy kind of guy, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Like I don't know, I have to you have to be honest,
there's really not a lot thatcomes to mind in the sense of
what you said first before butyeah, that's funny, that is
funny Power tools.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Imagine now you have to go back to old school and
like using your hand to rightand and ratchets and wrenches.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, if I got ratchets and wrenches, then we should be
good.
The only bad thing is you won'tbe able to drill anything yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You have to do the old school drill.
The old school drill was likethat Winding it, you had to hold
it and then you would just windand spin, but it was only one
size bit Bullshit.
So you're saying electricity,right?
Oh well, no, no, becausesociety can't live without.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No, I think you're right we would, we would you're
right we would be goingcannibals and like yeah, yeah,
it would be bad, it would befucking bad bro, it would not be
good, that would be insanepeople would go fucking off the
hook nuts, my god dude.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The whole infrastructure would shut down.
Yeah literally.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I would hope they wouldn't, but they would.
People will.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
People will lose their shit well, there was
movies about all that stuffhappening.
You know like what was it?
Die Hard, die Hard or Live,trying something like that.
And in that one the people hadhacked the electrical grid and
they shut down.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh, it was the newer one, the newer one.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, it was the newer one, yeah, and that
was one that they had done thatand they were trying to just
show that the governments needed, or the world needed, to have
electricity, but they werecutting them off and people
started to bug out a little bit.
So I'm just saying that wouldbe wild man, that would be crazy
.
Woo, no electricity.
Yeah, I don't know if I coulddo that.
Don't know if I could do that.
(04:38):
What are you thinking, luke,what you got?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I don't know.
That is a good one.
What's more important, truth orcomfort?
Ooh, depends.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Right, that's hard to say yeah.
Yeah, because sometimes thetruth is comforting, sometimes
All the time.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, it doesn't mean rat yourself out Well, it
doesn't also mean that if youhear what is the truth, it's
actually going to help make youfeel better either.
True true true, right?
So I guess it depends, youthink it will but it doesn't
work out that way usually.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't know.
I'm that guy.
I think I'd rather have truth,though I think I personally
rather have truth.
Yeah, I think so too.
I think I would want to havetruth.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What are of comfort?
Throwing out Someone?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
will be back on to you.
I mean imagine that shit.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
No, what Truth.
I mean it's better to know thannot know, but sometimes you
know the term ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, no yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I don't have a heart here, sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I can't hook you up.
Yeah, yeah, oh wait, I do havea harp.
Look, look Awesome there you gothere, you go.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't have a harp.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yes, truth, that is it.
That's, yeah, I guess you'reright, bro, I would be down with
that.
That's funny, that is funny.
All right, here you go.
What inspires you the most, solike, is it love?
Is it just wanting to know thetruth?
Is it just curiosity?
(06:10):
You know what I mean.
Like what?
What inspires you people wecouldn't say people.
Do your kids inspire you?
Kids from your friends you know, family, some other family
member you you know?
I got to say I think my kids,my kids would be the ones I
would have to say would be whatinspires me.
I agree, kids, and then wife, Ithink, is what it is, because
(06:35):
sometimes she says and doesthings I'm like oh, I wish I
could just be like that, youknow, like I could just have
that mental for a minute.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I think that'd be a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, like I could just have that mental for a
minute.
I get what you're saying, youknow, yeah, but then kids, wife,
and then you know I havefriends that I get a little bit
out of all you guys and stufflike, oh, I wish I could do it
like that, oh, I wish I could belike, just have that mental.
That that's me.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
for me, I can't say like one thing specific, you
know, because, like I, takeinspiration from everywhere.
Okay, sometimes certain thingsinspire me and find things maybe
.
So it's tough to say like Ican't say from one thing, just
because, like I get my a lot ofinspiration from, I feel, from
(07:23):
people who were I get everybodylike vocal more, like I just
turned woke.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know what I mean, yeah, yeah yeah, you know I
like to get inspiration frompeople that are like, more
willing to like teach, expose,oh okay things and like, hey,
check this out.
You didn't know about this, butyou know Like I love that
they're good about information.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and it's free information, right right.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Just make sure they get it out to you.
I'm not just saying like, justlike stuff that like people like
didn't know that they shouldknow.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like stuff like that, got it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
That's why I love like TikTok and shit like that.
That's why I love like TikTokand shit like that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, because like it shows people things that like
who do well because of theirwhat's going on in their life.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It can be anything now Right.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So now anybody is in that self-help stuff, right,
that's great too, yeah Becauselike, isn't that?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
there's that one guy that he lives out off the grid.
I think he's supposed to bestopping how often he posts, but
he was just showing all thesecrazy random places that he was
doing it with his kids and theywere just up on a mountain, out
on a field, yeah, and, but Iunderstand I get what you're
saying.
That makes sense to.
That would be cool.
(08:35):
That's, yeah, that's aninteresting inspiration.
You know what I mean?
I could, I could dig that.
I could dig that.
I could dig that.
You no, no, well, you hadanother question.
No, no, but inspiration for me.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I would think, yes, I did this to my kids, but I'm
starting to think that's easy.
Well, you know, that's an easykids?
Of course you do.
I think for me it comes when ithappens kind of thing, when I
get inspired to do somethingLike when, something when the
right Right For me, that's whenit.
You know, I don't necessarilylook to try to do anything, but
(09:10):
I do get inspired by otherpeople, mm-hmm, and inspired by
things like that, like Tom wassaying, you know, or positive,
you know affirmations and takingcare of each other and animals,
and Taking care of each otherand animals.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, you know right, yeah you do I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, right, exactly Right.
That's the one that's you, sothat's where you would be.
Yeah, that's where I would be,so that would be giving me.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
you know if everything was good, but you
know.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, there's always hope, my friend.
There's always hope, but we gota bunch of stuff on here that's
really cool, though Seriously,oh, that's an easy one.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I'll ask that later.
All right, okay, what?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
belief, what one belief you hold that you'll
never speak out loud, Well thenI guess we're not going to find
out.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Are we, let's move on , shall we?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Next question.
That is such a loaded freakingpistol dude, I know it never
mind a loaded question because,bro, it's like people will
listen to this and then beknocking at your door.
That's what you said yeah, dude, that is funny.
That's a yeah, that's a superdeep one.
I think, yeah, we can't answerthat all right.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Is identity something fixed or always evolving?
Always evolving.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh yeah, Always always.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Definitely always evolving yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Because, like the person you are last, where last
year might not be the person youare today, yeah, I mean, yeah,
we all have our personalities,but even that can change Right.
You know some can change right.
You know some people can bevery you know, they grow up very
extroverted they get older,they're introverted right,
they're not.
They're not like sociable asmuch.
(10:51):
And then it could be the otherway around.
You know, and same thing withyou know, maybe someone you know
was like always.
You know, someone was alwayslike a nice guy and now he's got
the chip on his shoulder allthe time.
You know like people justchange, you know.
So I think it's always evolvingyeah.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I would have to agree with that for sure, as life
changes and you have differentexperiences.
Life shapes who you are and youdefinitely know you have, I
mean if things, if you look atyourself at a certain point, you
know if it's a picture thatreminds you of something or
whatever it is, and you say, ohwow, I'm definitely not the same
person I was when I took thatphotograph.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You know, you kind of already know that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But you know what?
But you are, but you're not.
You're more mature, you're moreseasoned, you're more lived
life.
You, you, you're not greenanymore.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But then there's people that never change.
So I don't know.
I think maybe you know thatquestion.
I I'm playing my own devil'sadvocate here, but I feel like
there's some people you meet,you see them like years later
and you're like they're the samefucking person, like nothing's
changed, so I guess it am Istill the same person.
I guess there's two I guess itreally depends on the person
(12:04):
then right, because they can gotwo ways.
Like you said, some peopledon't change and some people
change.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But it depends.
So I think it's a double-edgedsword.
Yeah, or some aspects theychange, yeah, because, yeah, so
I'm the same comedian that I wasalways.
I still talk shit and laugh andjoke and it's whatever.
How I feel about people orcertain things has changed, so
(12:28):
I'm more mature.
With that.
You know what I mean, right?
So, like then you know, likeI'm nicer to people than I was
many moons ago.
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
Things like that.
And that comes with age, ofcourse.
Yeah, with age comes wisdom.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, with age comes wisdom.
Also.
We also know that there arethose people who will never get
to that point in their life.
They are stuck in their waysfrom a certain point in time
that is no longer in.
You know, we're talking abouttwo episodes ago.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, but I'm saying think
about it.
I'm talking about because thereare people like that.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Right, Not only people that I know, but I mean
in general.
You know, Think about it I'mtalking about.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
there are a lot of people like that Right, Not only
people that I know, but I meanin general.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You don't people like that.
You're like this motherfucker'snever going to get it.
Yeah, never going to get it.
Never going to get it Nevergoing to get it Right?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, because they're freaking cracking Three
episodes ago.
What were you contemplating?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I gotta fuck with you man.
No, no, no, I was just.
I was just thinking the amountof episodes back that we were
talking about the similarsubject.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
All right, wait a minute, I have another question
no, no, go ahead, go ahead, goahead.
Can we truly change, or do wejust learn to mask our flaws?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
better Mask our flaws , better Hands down.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
What do you mean, like mask or what we just said,
we did change.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We do change.
We evolve as we get older.
We change For certain things.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
What does that mean?
Mask or floors I haven't heardthat Floors.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
you know things that you're not like, let's say,
physical or verbal Right orwhatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You might have, but you know we get better.
Some of us will get better anddo that, but our flaw would be
something that we find is wrongwith us.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But it's something that nobody would know about
either.
It would only you be the onlyone who would know it.
If you had a flaw that you knew, what is that?
Oh, flaw Flaw, not the flaw,like the linoleum flaw.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The flaw the flaw.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm like what about the flaw?
Oh my God, F-A-F-L-A-W.
What metaphor is this?
I've never heard this before.
That is funny.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh my God, that's funny dude, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
So now, what is the question?
Again, because I completelyforgot.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He did because he just went off on a tangent.
Oh my, God Can someone trulychange or do we just learn to
mask our flaws?
I think people, I think we allchange.
What I was saying earlier wasso when you are young, you're
green.
You go through life, you figureshit out, you get a job right.
(15:05):
You go through life, you figureshit out, you get a job right.
You go through stages.
You're in 20s, 30s, 40s.
Right now you have experience.
You live life.
You've been up down this sickright.
Someone passed away something.
You know, like there was alwayssomething and if you got
through that, you got betterthrough life.
Some people don't, some peopleget a little.
You know I'm not saying thatyou.
You know it was great get realdeep on this.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes, go ahead, go ahead.
So I'm sorry I cut you off.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm sorry.
You know I do that all the time, no.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So I think masking flaws is the first step to
changing actually I, I wouldagree with that.
Because that means you haveawareness Of something that
you're not very proud of.
Yeah, you have awareness of it.
So if you're not aware of it,you're just going to keep
fucking doing it or comfortablewith.
So if you're masking it, thatmeans you're not comfortable
(16:00):
with it Right.
Or just aware of it.
So you're masking it becauseyou know it's a bad behavior.
Most likely they don't wantanybody else to know about it
and once you start masking,that's a very stressful thing to
do, not stressful, it's just,it's work.
So you're not going to want todo it anymore.
So you're going to change Right, so I think it's a step.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
That's my theory.
It could happen, you could hope, so you're going to change
Right.
So I think it's a step.
That's my theory.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It could happen, you could hope to force somebody to
go in that direction, right, andthen they finally get to where
they're supposed to be, becauseif you're masking, then you're
aware of a behavior Right.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
In some way or another, you're actually
admitting to yourself thatsomething is going on.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Right, huh, and that's the first step is
admitting.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's what they say.
Okay, man.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Very well put right there.
That's groovy.
You got another one bro.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh, I got a lot.
Oh yeah, go ahead, you go aheadand do one.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
How do you recharge so out of a stressful situation
or whatever?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yep, Go ahead.
For me that's easy.
I just need some.
I need to forge a solitude, you?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I just got to just chill, be at home.
You know Recharge, yeah, I like, I like.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I like when I crash and I can sleep on the week like
on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I like to sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I like to get my sleep.
I don't sleep as long as Iusually sleep, but but that's,
that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, I look forward to that.
Yeah, I don't, I don't like tosleep that off like that, but
I'll take like kind of like napsthroughout the day, like yeah,
every so often, I don't know, torecharge.
I think it's a little bit ofpeace time, you know, just quiet
, be able to.
You know just to sit and belike nobody.
I don't hear anybody, I don't.
You know just me right therewith the TV or whatever that I'm
(17:45):
doing.
So, yeah, I'm with you, bro.
Fortress of Solitude isFortress of Solitude.
Yeah, that sounds where it's.
That'd be awesome I could bethere.
I know, just sit right in themiddle of it, dude, that'd be
great, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Just not do anything, just sit there and just listen
With a projection TV showingRight.
Something groovy yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Watching a game or whatever.
Dude that would be sick.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But you never know man.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Are we the people we think weare, or people others see us as?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Ooh, this is a.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Tom question, bro.
So you think you're one way,but everybody else knows you're
not.
You're either really you're adick, or you're really a good
person.
You don't realize that you are,or something to that effect.
Like well, you're just just notyou think one way.
It's like almost the same thing, when I probably shouldn't even
say this, but when people wearclothes that they probably
(18:46):
shouldn't be wearing.
You know what I mean?
Yep, same kind of thing.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, you mean like yeah, I know what you're saying.
Right, I know what you'resaying.
Yeah, yeah, are we the?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
people, we think we are or people see us another way
.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, I think in general, that's probably true
for everyone, because we alwaysperceive ourself to be a certain
way.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
This is like you can't see yourself because you
are yourself, yeah, right, yeah,and when you project and you
think there are other people.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's how you seem like yeah.
It's never the way you think itis when you go there, because
it's perfectly fine, that's whyyou ever see someone take like
candid video of you and you'relike, oh, it's so fucking that's
do I act?
Like do, I look like Do.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I do that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, You're like oh, that's not how.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I am.
Yeah, I do not like that video.
Delete that shit immediately.
Yeah.
That's how you are, I know butit's funny when you see certain
things.
But if you're acting like agoofball to begin with, then it
doesn't really make a difference.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I'm acting like a goofball most of the time.
Most of the time.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So you might get away , but they may not see those
slip-ups.
It would only be you, I'm good.
Is that the person you wantpeople to see?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, you always want people to see your good side,
right?
I mean, obviously we all havethat one side, that if you push
us or something's- going on inour lives.
You're not a good, you're not avery nice person to be around,
right, you know?
Yeah, I know I'm not, so.
Yeah, I mean, but not all thetime though.
Right Only, I would hope, whenit's only necessary or
(20:23):
unfortunate.
Maybe Right Is that the rightword to use.
Right, right, right, yep, yeah,cause I'd rather be happy, but
I know that's not realistic Shit.
We were saying about age too.
You get to a point where youstart to be like this is really
not a big deal, right, right,like I made such a big deal
about this when I was whateverthis age or that age, and now
(20:43):
you're this age and you're likethis is really not a big fucking
deal.
Yeah, I wasted too much time onthat shit.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, it's true, right, yeah, definitely, it's
crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That makes sense, yep .
And again it goes to like whenyou see young kids and they talk
stuff and you're like, oh,you're very knowledgeable and
you say things and you've hadthis, that and the other.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You don't fucking know shit.
All right, I got socks.
Older than you, sonny, yeah,yeah you know what I mean, okay.
I like that.
That works that works.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But listen, the kids today are different than the
kids that we were too, so we doshit that we probably would have
loved to done if we had thesame access they did.
That's my old job.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You know what I mean.
My old job is to have a guythat used to say that to me yeah
, I got socks all the time.
I got socks all the new year,sonny all right.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Do you work to live or live to work?
Oh no, I were.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Well, I have to work to live.
That's the only way it's well.
I think that's moremetaphorical, you know.
I mean like, do you go to workbecause you know you want to
live your life and have a goodtime, or is it that you're going
to work because you, like you,don't have anything else, that
you only?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
go to work to live.
I do not live to work yeah, Idon't live to work.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yes, no right to live , yeah, like some people are
just so wrapped up in their jobno, no, you know or their
quote-unquote career that theydon't do anything like that
maybe yes, I don't know ifthat's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Well, I think I think we're all that way because I
don't think anybody that livesto work have a podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, no, no, definitely not but they're
living to work at the podcast,to be famous, to make that the
job.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, this is added information.
This is added information.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm thinking as someone who's a nine to five.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh, nine to five, no.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Gotcha Slave wage, you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You know, like you know, like fucking you know,
yeah, yeah, yeah, Not workingHell, yeah, yeah, exactly, you
know like.
You know, like fucking you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm working,
none, you know hell yeah,retail hell, whatever it is, you
know whatever, any kind ofworking but yeah, like, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So if you have a job you like and love, right, but I
still wouldn't, it's not yourlife, but I still wouldn't like
it's part of your life.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's your life, would not be my entire right.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It helped make your life better, right that's, but
it would not be my entire Right.
It would make your life better,right?
That's crazy.
It wouldn't be my whole beingRight.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Fair enough, but you need it, or like having it
Because you do really well at itand you're good at it.
That's awful, that's huge.
Yeah, you can get that in yourlife.
Hell, yeah, as long aseverything else could be going.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Exactly Down the fucking drain.
Yeah, I know Family life couldbe shit yeah yeah, yeah,
definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Sorry to be Debbie Downer here, people, jesus, you
know, this is life.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm sorry, this is what happens.
No shit, no shit.
God, what was the?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
one you had.
Oh okay, hang on, you want meto do another one?
Sure, yeah.
So we're mystery and theunknown.
Let's see.
Uh-oh, what do you thinkgovernments actually might be
hiding?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
from us.
Oh, this we can dip into the.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We got to make it so many ways, but conspiracy theory
, we got to keep it right at thetop because we can't think that
there's not going to be a deepdive.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I know so quick, fast .
Speaker 2 (23:56):
What would be the one thing that you think the
government is hiding from us?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Aliens yeah, they're still doing that.
Yeah, even though they putstuff out there.
There's so much more that theyhave that we don't even know
about, or UFOs.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
What kind of testing that they do.
Space travel there's so muchstuff there's just so much that
they probably done already thatwe have no clue about.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like I think like building, like they have the
stuff that they've already beenbuilding on the moon.
I think that's like been there.
There's shit on the moon, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Which side, the dark side?
It would have to be the darkside, yeah, yeah yeah, the dark
side, you'd be able to see it onthe front side.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You'd be able to see it of like a base, you know
human, the world countries, bigbusiness, whatever they've got-.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Why would you need to do that?
It wouldn't be there why?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because mining.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Why would you need to do that?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
though, because of mining.
Oh yeah, so that's what theidea is what kind of mining,
whatever, or that they say thatRemember the movie.
Time Machine Time Machine TimeMachine Time Machine Time
Machine.
With a guy Orson Welles movie.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
No, the guy comes back.
It was the newer one that wasmade from an older movie.
Guy comes back.
He built the time machine backin the 1920s, or something like
that.
He comes back, yes, and onepart of the time that he comes
back to the moon is cracked inhalf.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah, that's that same movie,
yeah, Cracked in half, I supposeBecause they were mining on the
moon.
Yes, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yes, so they need to be careful, man.
Well, and Now the moon ispretty.
For what I'm saying, it'sactually part of us, because,
it's from what I understand, wecollided Right and then and then
it moved away.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, yeah, so now.
But then it's not.
I mean not just mining on themoon itself.
You know, that's like the stopbefore, because it's easier to
launch off of the moon becauseless gravity, so then they can
just go to different planets andwhatnot.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It makes sense.
That's the idea.
Well, I always knew they wantedto use the moon for that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
So that's why I said that would be the one thing that
I would like to know.
Yeah, then there's then thisconspiracy about the dark side
of the moon yeah, right, yeah,crazy, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay, here you go.
This is a little bit of adeeper one.
Do you trust anyone with yourlife?
Because I would hope so.
Yeah, yeah, I, I probably gotlike I probably have like two or
three people, but now I guessit depends on how much with your
life do you really trust, liketo jump in front of a bullet for
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you.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
No, I don't expect anybody to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, I'm just like.
I mean not, you know.
Yeah, I mean not like movieworthy, like no jump in front of
the bullet, you know, but Imean like movie worthy like no
get in front of the bullet, youknow, but I mean, you know like
if they see somebody with mylife.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't know, does anybody trust me with their life
?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but I mean you know againI would hope so.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I guess, when the time comes or if it was
necessary, yeah, I would hopethat whoever that person is
right, that person is is therewhen it happens.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Because I mean, you know like am I going to turn
around and be like?
You know, you see me crossingthe street.
Are you going to come and runand, you know, pull me out of
the path of whatever vehicle isgoing to hit me.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know like my friend Frankie did to me when I
was a kid.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, or are you just going to yell?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
You're going to yell that goes my hero.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh my God, bro, you guys are hilarious with that
shit, holy frioles.
Okay, let's see what else I gothere.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Is there knowledge humans aren't meant to have?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So is there anything that we?
Shouldn't know about,regardless of how I think
anything that could destroy theplanet whoa anything that's
destructive like, like this,like like this.
You know, this theory is aboutthe hadrian collider yeah like
possibly making like dark matterthat could create a black hole
(27:50):
right.
Oh wonderful, like in sawdustgrows bigger and bigger and
bigger that exists, we shouldn'tknow about it because someone's
going to think they can do itin a safe way and they're trying
it yeah.
We could do it a safe way.
It's in a vacuum.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It's always a safe way.
It goes fucking sideways andthere you go.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
We shouldn't know anything like that, because it's
going to be our destruction,right, right right, it's just
inevitable, even if it's goingto be our destruction.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right, right, right, it's just inevitable, even if
it's 100 years from now, youknow that they do a test like
that.
It's not going to be anywherenear here.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, do it like on another galaxy.
It's going to be somewhere far,far, far away in a galaxy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
No, no, no, yeah, no, no.
They're doing it right now onEarth on the other side of the
planet.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's fantastic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they'vebeen doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They can control it, though Is it so far?
Is it an actual black hole?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No, no, no, no, no.
They could make the black holeif they get the dark matter to
crash.
They've already collided thatshit a hundred fucking million
times and it hasn't made a blackhole yet, but they're learning
but they're learning yes, butthey're learning stuff just from
the collision of what happenedwith the big bang.
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That was the main.
So for me it was recorded.
It was recorded an videocomputer analysis.
It was like all there, all thedot, the data, the data is dead
the data.
So then, why now would?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
you do it again.
They keep doing it because theywant to.
They're trying to keep gettingit to give more information.
Yeah, I don't know if we coulddo a black hole here, as like an
energy generator type thing,because a lot of people talk
about dark matter, energy.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
That could be like that we don't even see that,
yeah, like like that we canharness energy and have like a
limited power right, yeah, this,this society going to let that
happen.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Not a million fucking years, well, but you know what?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Here's the thing, though If it was something like
that, we can't even make ithappen because we can't see it,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
That's the shame that , like greed prevents it, we
could be like light years ahead.
Mm-hmm, wouldn't it be great ifyou create your own energy
source at your home.
You do it, you get it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You run it, you have your own energy source, nobody's
billing you nothing, you takecare of it, you maintain it Like
.
In other words, you have it,it's eco-friendly, right, right.
Wouldn't that be better, wherepeople would get to the point
where they have their own,they're in control of their
ecosystem, right, their home,yes, and they don't have to pay
(30:19):
anybody for the energy.
Give them the money or anythinglike that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But, people like that shit.
You would hope it would getlike that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think Star Trek was like that.
Yeah, if you think about it,they were like that Everything
was, there was no work.
You just you know helpedsociety.
Yeah, you know, you know it'strue Helped society.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, that would be fantastic, that would be a good
one, that would be cool, right,that would be way, way cool.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, Okay you ready?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Listen, I'm a little fruity with the sci-fi you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I can't help it.
Here you go, here you go.
What's something that offendsyou?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
okay, fair enough, sorry it was no, no, no, no, no,
okay, yeah I forgot that theystill existed.
Let's go to tom back to yousuper uncomfortable right now.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
That's funny sorry guys, I not what offends me is
just people that like are justlike assholes, like people that
like are like I don't give ashit if you don't want my
opinion.
I hate that shit you know whatI mean.
It's just a matter of being anasshole.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Don't be a jerk.
That's the shit I hate.
Why do people have to shit onfucking people?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
don't be an asshole, don't poo poo on, don't poo-poo
on me, right, right right, nopoo-poo here.
No, but no, I mean seriouslylike that thing, and I know what
it is is to make themselvesfeel better, that's always what
it comes down to.
Right, right, like just peopleare just dicks, like that's the
kind of shit I don't like.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's, don't need for it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Offended.
I'm sure there's a lot thatoffends me.
You know it depends on when ithappens, people like that.
But yeah, mostly I just don'twant to see anything get hurt or
you know, because of somebody'snegligence or something.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Or somebody I mean like I like now.
I love the MMA right.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I love watching that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But I like, when I see, when these guys who are the
ones that do stupid shit, andthen they get in the ring with
the guy and they lose, and theylose and it's you know, and you
hope that they learn from that,like you know, don't take it as
a fail necessarily.
But now you're like, okay,maybe you just learn from that.
You don't fucking do that rightnow.
Those guys are warriors, so Iwould never, of course, know
(32:39):
them what to do.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , you know what I mean.
Yeah, not just saying this, butit's just something I'm
thinking about that is freaking,no it's hilarious.
Yeah, that is freakinghilarious.
Oh, you another one up in theOoh.
You got another one up in there.
I got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
What's something you've experienced that you
can't logically explain?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Oh Wait, what's that Something?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
you what, what's?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
something you've experienced.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
What's something you've experienced that you
can't logically explain?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Hmm, Now logically meaning well, I don't know what
it means.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
It could be anything in your life.
Okay, it could be anything thathappens to you, that you're
just like.
I can't explain this.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Spiritual encounter in my grandparents' house in
Boston, Nice.
That was Creepy.
Thinking about it now, wellthrough the years.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Was it somebody you knew?
Did you know who was it?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, no, no, we don't know, we don't know, we don't
know, you don't know.
Yeah, don't know, because therewas a few things that happened.
But I can't, like my cousinsand I, we can't really explain
them, you know, we just knowthat they happened, right?
No-transcript.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It freaked me the fuck out.
When I was a kid, we lived inan apartment building I may have
told you guys this before whenI was just working on my bike in
my father's shop and it wasdaytime outside.
But I felt like I needed to getout, didn't feel right, like
something was watching me orsomething was wrong, you know
just, and I would just run outof the fucking thing, go out
(34:22):
into the sun hang out outside.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, that was now, that was all the time, or just.
No, that only happened a coupletimes and it really happened a
lot, you know it was just, itwasn't cool.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, you remember that likethat leads to fucking, like,
even to this day, you're likewhat, the yeah, what the hell is
that yeah, I got something.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I call it the.
I actually gave a name for itwhat, what, what the uh
occurrence was, but it was aweird thing I saw in the sky and
I it's not ufo related, I meanit could have been but I call it
the cloud factory.
So I was outside one day thisis in my maybe my 20s got to my
(35:00):
backyard in the house I grew upin and I'm looking out, I'm
looking in the sky and I seethis fucking cloud and it's
growing and then it would likeit would grow and then split off
and go in.
And then it would grow andsplit off and go in the other.
It would grow, but like at afast.
It was like, oh, I've seenreally a santi, but no shit,
(35:22):
like something was making thecloud.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, weird whoa.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
And this is before this is before smartphones,
right like I had a flip phone.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
But yeah, if you try to take a picture of the sky, it
wasn't gonna happen, right, itwould be like just a blotchy
mess, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So like, yeah, I just I just like kept making, like I
don't understand it, like itwas, like it's like the flat,
the cloud was like growing, andthen it would break off and then
just go in the same directionlike a factory like, yeah, like
it was making clouds, and theyjust how big were these clouds,
I I mean if you're looking up atthe sky little clouds, maybe
(35:58):
like the size of your hand inthe sky.
Yeah, they were not decent, nothuge Right.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But yeah, all right, I'm not just asking, I'm just
curious, I'm not going to make acloudy sky.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
It was a it wasn't and it wasn't.
Cloudy day.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Ooh.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
It was the only cloud in the sky.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
No way, dude, that is bananas.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Was that UFO activities?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Maybe, or was it some natural?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
thing, that phenomenon or it was the
government making clouds forrain.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Making rain clouds.
Who knows, there's a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Listen, you see that stuff in the sky.
People see things that just donot make sense.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
This is not yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
wow, that's crazy man I've seen a streak in this, in
this guy come driving up fromnew york, coming upstate.
It didn't look like a like atakeoff, almost like a star trek
stream oh, no shit, yeah, yeah,yeah, oh, that's gotta be so.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That's why I named it the cloud factory yeah, I'm
saying that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It was all going in the same direction.
That's craziness, dude.
Yeah, no, it was around rightnear the assembly line.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, I stopped and then threw away Up.
This way, this is the oneclosest to us.
Okay, right around that areaSaw that thing.
Just colorless, just extreme.
That colors just stream, that'sfun.
Something just took off.
That's wild, that's crazy,that's that's spooky.
Because I remember saying, oh,did you just see that?
Yeah, I had the ranger game ontoo.
(37:26):
I believe that's what it was.
You were so lost in that thingthat is crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You got another one dude.
Oh, I got plenty, you don'thave one, my friend.
Tom, just like thinking off thecuff.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
No, that's insane, that what does a life well live
look like to you?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
well, my son, I think .
I think just a lot of lifeexperiences, maybe experience
life, you know, yeah, live life,live life, experience life,
yeah, so I think everyone'sgonna learn from an opinion like
some people get like well tohave a family, and some people
are like I don't need to likehave a wife and kids, I want to
(38:12):
be single my whole life rightand that doesn't mean that their
life isn't no, completer,everybody's different.
Yeah, so I guess that's whyit's a good question, because
we're all different.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
We're all different.
What's good for you is not goodfor somebody else.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I just think just to like experience life and not
like be happy, just I think thewhole like I would teach the
life like someone who, like likewe were talking about work to
live.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Like live to work, like, oh, like, why would you do
that?
Why would you do that?
Yeah, that's just miserable.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
You're miserable doing that.
That's not good, I have to lookforward to retirement.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, but like why not enjoy life until retirement
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
enjoy, you know, yeah , you got to work.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And, and, then you can continue to enjoy it while
you're retired, right, do yourvacations.
Enjoy the family yeah, exactly,yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
All right, here's another one.
If you disappeared tomorrow,what would be your mark on the
world?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Oh, the pee stain on the bed.
Wow, no, you know what?
What?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
would be your mark.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
The laster, yeah, the laster that I think I've left,
yeah, just being Well, that'skind of really big Like oh, I
invented this and I did that.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, Do we all leave a mark onthe world.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
It's a good question, do you think?
Do you leave a mark?
Yes, do you think it's like inthe movie?
It's a Wonderful Life, yes,life, yes.
Can you see your life beingthat way, in a scenario where
you think something like thatwould happen?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
where you were involved, where you helped
somebody.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
If I didn't exist, what would happen?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Someone might die or someone might not be born or
whatever.
We would be lost in thispodcast.
If not for you, right, wewouldn't have you in this, right
?
See what I'm saying, see whatLou's saying.
I think the laughter that Ithink I laughter that, I think I
believe that I, the smiles thatI put on, I think they're going
to remember everything.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, and they're going to.
I hope that they remembereverything and laugh at all of
it, Right, and say he was afreaking nut and oh, if he did
this he'd lose his fucking mindyou know, like I know'm not
going to say that shit, that'ssupposed to happen.
Right, you know and you hopethey do better than you.
You know what I mean, but Ihope they laugh and cry, and you
(40:25):
know, and poke fun at me andall that shit.
Yeah, Because if they're talkingabout me in a good way, not in
such a negative, or oh, I hatedhim, or I didn't like him, I'm
sure I'll have those people,which is fine.
They can go fuck themselves.
Yeah, oh, exactly, bro, thenI'm fine, I don't really need
anybody else.
And believe it or not?
It's true what they say aboutyour world shrinking as you get
(40:47):
older.
In other words, you don't needthat many people in your life to
be happy.
Right, right, which is true.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
It does it is fucking true yeah, weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Tom, no, no, I think I was just agreeing with Lou
said how when you get older,your world does shrink.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Oh, yeah, no, no, same, but what would be yours
Like?
What do you think?
What do you think your markwould be?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Me, I mean good father.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Like that kind of thing.
But on the world I don't, Idon't, I don't, I don't think of
myself in any kind of you knowwell, I mean, like you know, to
the world, I mean that soundslike oh well if to the world
like I don't, I don't, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well, the world probably means more your world
yeah, yeah, yeah good, dad, Ilike that one that's like that
one, that's groovy.
Yeah, yeah, that's groovy, Icould dig that.
Yeah, I can dig that.
Oh, so with that one, though,fellas, that was a good one,
that was a good one, I like that.
I like the spontaneousquestions or when we had a list
(41:51):
of questions.
But you is that, it's prettygroovy, I can dig it All right.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
We're going to do one more.
Nope, we're going to do onemore.
We're going to do one more.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
All right, is it more important?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
One more song, one more time Is it more important
to leave something behind or toenjoy it now, or enjoy the now,
enjoy the now, ooh, in otherwords enjoy life now and not
worry.
Worry about what you're goingto leave behind.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
But I don't know, because for me I believe that
you believe you need to leave alegacy or something Legacy.
If I do it now, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I'll be dead Give me that.
Well no, but I mean, I know, Iknow, I know, I'm going to be
someplace different.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm not going to care about what's going on here
anymore.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
You know, I guess it depends on your personality.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
If you, if that's something that's important.
Legacy is something that'simportant to you.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I don't know, if I need a legacy.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Maybe you're a professional and you maybe
you're a musician, likesomething like that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Like I could understand you know Well because
I mean, but I believe that ifyou're living the right way,
Because maybe you've alreadykind of started to build a
legacy, right, yeah, exactly,and you want to continue it,
right?
But I think we all have that toan extent.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Of course you have the life, a good life.
I don't think it's a legacy.
I mean it's like it's not likeyou know.
But we leave our marks anyways,because if you're doing and
they're, going to leave it ontheir children, and so on, and
so on, and so on.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Even still like you know, we go by what you In 100
years.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Nobody's going to remember us bro.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right, well, again, yeah, they won't, because
nobody's going to be alive toremember us in 100 years.
Exactly yeah, so you know, Iget that.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I'm just saying it's not important.
When you're gone Will you livethis life?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, but just remember though, and those who
go after before us.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Once we leave behind, they'll follow.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Fair enough.
I learned this from your great,great great great father.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
They will follow.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, you know, but it's what you do now is
definitely going to leave a markto be remembered after you're
gone.
I hope a good one.
Yeah, yeah, I hope so too.
Yeah, I hope so too, so thatthen that'll be the last
question.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
All right.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That being said, that was it, that was the.
That was just pretty, but itwas nice, all right.
So, with all that, appreciateeverybody, thank you for being
here with us.
Thank you, love, peace and hairgrease.
Live long, and prosper YoBye-bye.
what's going on, gentlemen, not much nothing no,
that's good yeah, everything'sgroovy man all right enjoying,
enjoying, uh hanging outchilling the weather.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, no right, that was like that was.
She was forced.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was being weird.
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, that waslike that was.
She was forced.
I was being weird.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm just saying, bro, you made us nervous.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
He should be weird.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yeah, sorry, all right, so go ahead, lou.
What are we doing today?
Oh well, oh, you want me to doit and just, all of us are going
to have, like you know, acouple of the cuff.
A few are going to be thatwe've read and picked out of
this, just random search.
So, okay, yep, so we in there,like swimwear baby, want to go
(00:52):
first, Lou, or?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
you want to go first, tom?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
no, no oh, you don't want to go first, all right, all
right, okay, okay, okay, okay,says this one here.
I was bugging out with this one, right.
What is the one thing youcannot live without?
What is the one thing I cannotlive without?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah it was sort of just one of those things.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
My phone, your phone, dude.
Are you serious, man, godly?
So I know for a fact I can livewithout my phone.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah yeah, well, I have when there was time, oh, no
, no, no, I took it recently.
You said when there was time.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh, no, no, no, I'm talking recent.
One thing you can live without.
So I know for a fact becausewhen I was on vacation a couple
of weeks ago I was without myphone, took the phone, threw it
into the safe and I didn't touchthat phone until I made the one
stop, just to text the kids.
But I was good without it,right, you know what I mean.
It was just a matter ofchecking to see the kids.
(01:45):
So phone, I used it as if itwas a landline.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know whatI mean.
When I got to PR I was like hey, childrens, and then said it
was up to them, and then it wentright back on the ship and
party was over bro, I didn'tsame exact thing you did when I
went on vacation.
I was like I don't want it on meI don't want to do it, I freak
(02:08):
out, I was good with it, but youreally you don't think you
could do without your phone.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I mean if I could.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But it would be really fucking miserable.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I could.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That was great dude.
Holy shit, that was awesome.
What about you?
What do you think?
You can't live without.
I could do the phone right.
But what one thing do you thinkyou couldn't live without?
Cause like for me?
I don't think I could livewithout.
I don't know, that's a hard one.
Now we're talking.
We're talking not like family orfriends or people, we're just
talking like you know, like Idon't think I could have a
(02:43):
necessity, yeah, something likewell, we were considering
necessity, so I don't think Icould live without a vehicle, a
car, a car, a bike?
Like I don't think I could.
You know, motor vehicle, right,I don't think I could live
without that because I don't.
I'm not, I don't think I'm ahorse and buggy kind of guy, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Like I don't know, I have to you have to be honest,
there's really not a lot thatcomes to mind in the sense of
what you said first before butyeah, that's funny, that is
funny Power tools.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Imagine now you have to go back to old school and
like using your hand to rightand and ratchets and wrenches.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, if I got ratchets and wrenches, then we should be
good.
The only bad thing is you won'tbe able to drill anything yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You have to do the old school drill.
The old school drill was likethat Winding it, you had to hold
it and then you would just windand spin, but it was only one
size bit Bullshit.
So you're saying electricity,right?
Oh well, no, no, becausesociety can't live without.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
No, I think you're right we would, we would you're
right we would be goingcannibals and like yeah, yeah,
it would be bad, it would befucking bad bro, it would not be
good, that would be insanepeople would go fucking off the
hook nuts, my god dude.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The whole infrastructure would shut down.
Yeah literally.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I would hope they wouldn't, but they would.
People will.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
People will lose their shit well, there was
movies about all that stuffhappening.
You know like what was it?
Die Hard, die Hard or Live,trying something like that.
And in that one the people hadhacked the electrical grid and
they shut down.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh, it was the newer one, the newer one.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, it was the newer one, yeah, and that
was one that they had done thatand they were trying to just
show that the governments needed, or the world needed, to have
electricity, but they werecutting them off and people
started to bug out a little bit.
So I'm just saying that wouldbe wild man, that would be crazy
.
Woo, no electricity.
Yeah, I don't know if I coulddo that.
Don't know if I could do that.
(04:38):
What are you thinking, luke,what you got?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I don't know.
That is a good one.
What's more important, truth orcomfort?
Ooh, depends.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Right, that's hard to say yeah.
Yeah, because sometimes thetruth is comforting, sometimes
All the time.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, it doesn't mean rat yourself out Well, it
doesn't also mean that if youhear what is the truth, it's
actually going to help make youfeel better either.
True true true, right?
So I guess it depends, youthink it will but it doesn't
work out that way usually.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't know.
I'm that guy.
I think I'd rather have truth,though I think I personally
rather have truth.
Yeah, I think so too.
I think I would want to havetruth.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What are of comfort?
Throwing out Someone?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
will be back on to you.
I mean imagine that shit.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
No, what Truth.
I mean it's better to know thannot know, but sometimes you
know the term ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, no yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I don't have a heart here, sorry.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I can't hook you up.
Yeah, yeah, oh wait, I do havea harp.
Look, look Awesome there you gothere, you go.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't have a harp.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yes, truth, that is it.
That's, yeah, I guess you'reright, bro, I would be down with
that.
That's funny, that is funny.
All right, here you go.
What inspires you the most, solike, is it love?
Is it just wanting to know thetruth?
Is it just curiosity?
(06:10):
You know what I mean.
Like what?
What inspires you people wecouldn't say people.
Do your kids inspire you?
Kids from your friends you know, family, some other family
member you you know?
I got to say I think my kids,my kids would be the ones I
would have to say would be whatinspires me.
I agree, kids, and then wife, Ithink, is what it is, because
(06:35):
sometimes she says and doesthings I'm like oh, I wish I
could just be like that, youknow, like I could just have
that mental for a minute.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I think that'd be a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, like I could just have that mental for a
minute.
I get what you're saying, youknow, yeah, but then kids, wife,
and then you know I havefriends that I get a little bit
out of all you guys and stufflike, oh, I wish I could do it
like that, oh, I wish I could belike, just have that mental.
That that's me.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
for me, I can't say like one thing specific, you
know, because, like I, takeinspiration from everywhere.
Okay, sometimes certain thingsinspire me and find things maybe
.
So it's tough to say like Ican't say from one thing, just
because, like I get my a lot ofinspiration from, I feel, from
(07:23):
people who were I get everybodylike vocal more, like I just
turned woke.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know what I mean, yeah, yeah yeah, you know I
like to get inspiration frompeople that are like, more
willing to like teach, expose,oh okay things and like, hey,
check this out.
You didn't know about this, butyou know Like I love that
they're good about information.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, and it's free information, right right.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Just make sure they get it out to you.
I'm not just saying like, justlike stuff that like people like
didn't know that they shouldknow.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like stuff like that, got it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
That's why I love like TikTok and shit like that.
That's why I love like TikTokand shit like that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, because like it shows people things that like
who do well because of theirwhat's going on in their life.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It can be anything now Right.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So now anybody is in that self-help stuff, right,
that's great too, yeah Becauselike, isn't that?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
there's that one guy that he lives out off the grid.
I think he's supposed to bestopping how often he posts, but
he was just showing all thesecrazy random places that he was
doing it with his kids and theywere just up on a mountain, out
on a field, yeah, and, but Iunderstand I get what you're
saying.
That makes sense to.
That would be cool.
(08:35):
That's, yeah, that's aninteresting inspiration.
You know what I mean?
I could, I could dig that.
I could dig that.
I could dig that.
You no, no, well, you hadanother question.
No, no, but inspiration for me.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I would think, yes, I did this to my kids, but I'm
starting to think that's easy.
Well, you know, that's an easykids?
Of course you do.
I think for me it comes when ithappens kind of thing, when I
get inspired to do somethingLike when, something when the
right Right For me, that's whenit.
You know, I don't necessarilylook to try to do anything, but
(09:10):
I do get inspired by otherpeople, mm-hmm, and inspired by
things like that, like Tom wassaying, you know, or positive,
you know affirmations and takingcare of each other and animals,
and Taking care of each otherand animals.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, you know right, yeah you do I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, right, exactly Right.
That's the one that's you, sothat's where you would be.
Yeah, that's where I would be,so that would be giving me.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
you know if everything was good, but you
know.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, there's always hope, my friend.
There's always hope, but we gota bunch of stuff on here that's
really cool, though Seriously,oh, that's an easy one.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I'll ask that later.
All right, okay, what?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
belief, what one belief you hold that you'll
never speak out loud, Well thenI guess we're not going to find
out.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Are we, let's move on , shall we?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Next question.
That is such a loaded freakingpistol dude, I know it never
mind a loaded question because,bro, it's like people will
listen to this and then beknocking at your door.
That's what you said yeah, dude, that is funny.
That's a yeah, that's a superdeep one.
I think, yeah, we can't answerthat all right.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Is identity something fixed or always evolving?
Always evolving.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh yeah, Always always.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Definitely always evolving yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Because, like the person you are last, where last
year might not be the person youare today, yeah, I mean, yeah,
we all have our personalities,but even that can change Right.
You know some can change right.
You know some people can bevery you know, they grow up very
extroverted they get older,they're introverted right,
they're not.
They're not like sociable asmuch.
(10:51):
And then it could be the otherway around.
You know, and same thing withyou know, maybe someone you know
was like always.
You know, someone was alwayslike a nice guy and now he's got
the chip on his shoulder allthe time.
You know like people justchange, you know.
So I think it's always evolvingyeah.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I would have to agree with that for sure, as life
changes and you have differentexperiences.
Life shapes who you are and youdefinitely know you have, I
mean if things, if you look atyourself at a certain point, you
know if it's a picture thatreminds you of something or
whatever it is, and you say, ohwow, I'm definitely not the same
person I was when I took thatphotograph.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You know, you kind of already know that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But you know what?
But you are, but you're not.
You're more mature, you're moreseasoned, you're more lived
life.
You, you, you're not greenanymore.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But then there's people that never change.
So I don't know.
I think maybe you know thatquestion.
I I'm playing my own devil'sadvocate here, but I feel like
there's some people you meet,you see them like years later
and you're like they're the samefucking person, like nothing's
changed, so I guess it am Istill the same person.
I guess there's two I guess itreally depends on the person
(12:04):
then right, because they can gotwo ways.
Like you said, some peopledon't change and some people
change.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But it depends.
So I think it's a double-edgedsword.
Yeah, or some aspects theychange, yeah, because, yeah, so
I'm the same comedian that I wasalways.
I still talk shit and laugh andjoke and it's whatever.
How I feel about people orcertain things has changed, so
(12:28):
I'm more mature.
With that.
You know what I mean, right?
So, like then you know, likeI'm nicer to people than I was
many moons ago.
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
Things like that.
And that comes with age, ofcourse.
Yeah, with age comes wisdom.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, with age comes wisdom.
Also.
We also know that there arethose people who will never get
to that point in their life.
They are stuck in their waysfrom a certain point in time
that is no longer in.
You know, we're talking abouttwo episodes ago.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, but I'm saying think
about it.
I'm talking about because thereare people like that.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Right, Not only people that I know, but I mean
in general.
You know, Think about it I'mtalking about.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
there are a lot of people like that Right, Not only
people that I know, but I meanin general.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You don't people like that.
You're like this motherfucker'snever going to get it.
Yeah, never going to get it.
Never going to get it Nevergoing to get it Right?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, because they're freaking cracking Three
episodes ago.
What were you contemplating?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I gotta fuck with you man.
No, no, no, I was just.
I was just thinking the amountof episodes back that we were
talking about the similarsubject.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
All right, wait a minute, I have another question
no, no, go ahead, go ahead, goahead.
Can we truly change, or do wejust learn to mask our flaws?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
better Mask our flaws , better Hands down.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
What do you mean, like mask or what we just said,
we did change.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We do change.
We evolve as we get older.
We change For certain things.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
What does that mean?
Mask or floors I haven't heardthat Floors.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
you know things that you're not like, let's say,
physical or verbal Right orwhatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You might have, but you know we get better.
Some of us will get better anddo that, but our flaw would be
something that we find is wrongwith us.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
But it's something that nobody would know about
either.
It would only you be the onlyone who would know it.
If you had a flaw that you knew, what is that?
Oh, flaw Flaw, not the flaw,like the linoleum flaw.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
The flaw the flaw.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm like what about the flaw?
Oh my God, F-A-F-L-A-W.
What metaphor is this?
I've never heard this before.
That is funny.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh my God, that's funny dude, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
So now, what is the question?
Again, because I completelyforgot.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
He did because he just went off on a tangent.
Oh my, God Can someone trulychange or do we just learn to
mask our flaws?
I think people, I think we allchange.
What I was saying earlier wasso when you are young, you're
green.
You go through life, you figureshit out, you get a job right.
(15:05):
You go through life, you figureshit out, you get a job right.
You go through stages.
You're in 20s, 30s, 40s.
Right now you have experience.
You live life.
You've been up down this sickright.
Someone passed away something.
You know, like there was alwayssomething and if you got
through that, you got betterthrough life.
Some people don't, some peopleget a little.
You know I'm not saying thatyou.
You know it was great get realdeep on this.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yes, go ahead, go ahead.
So I'm sorry I cut you off.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm sorry.
You know I do that all the time, no.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So I think masking flaws is the first step to
changing actually I, I wouldagree with that.
Because that means you haveawareness Of something that
you're not very proud of.
Yeah, you have awareness of it.
So if you're not aware of it,you're just going to keep
fucking doing it or comfortablewith.
So if you're masking it, thatmeans you're not comfortable
(16:00):
with it Right.
Or just aware of it.
So you're masking it becauseyou know it's a bad behavior.
Most likely they don't wantanybody else to know about it
and once you start masking,that's a very stressful thing to
do, not stressful, it's just,it's work.
So you're not going to want todo it anymore.
So you're going to change Right, so I think it's a step.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
That's my theory.
It could happen, you could hope, so you're going to change
Right.
So I think it's a step.
That's my theory.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It could happen, you could hope to force somebody to
go in that direction, right, andthen they finally get to where
they're supposed to be, becauseif you're masking, then you're
aware of a behavior Right.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
In some way or another, you're actually
admitting to yourself thatsomething is going on.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Right, huh, and that's the first step is
admitting.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
That.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's what they say.
Okay, man.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Very well put right there.
That's groovy.
You got another one bro.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh, I got a lot.
Oh yeah, go ahead, you go aheadand do one.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
How do you recharge so out of a stressful situation
or whatever?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yep, Go ahead.
For me that's easy.
I just need some.
I need to forge a solitude, you?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I just got to just chill, be at home.
You know Recharge, yeah, I like, I like.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I like when I crash and I can sleep on the week like
on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I like to sleep.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, I like to get my sleep.
I don't sleep as long as Iusually sleep, but but that's,
that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, I look forward to that.
Yeah, I don't, I don't like tosleep that off like that, but
I'll take like kind of like napsthroughout the day, like yeah,
every so often, I don't know, torecharge.
I think it's a little bit ofpeace time, you know, just quiet
, be able to.
You know just to sit and belike nobody.
I don't hear anybody, I don't.
You know just me right therewith the TV or whatever that I'm
(17:45):
doing.
So, yeah, I'm with you, bro.
Fortress of Solitude isFortress of Solitude.
Yeah, that sounds where it's.
That'd be awesome I could bethere.
I know, just sit right in themiddle of it, dude, that'd be
great, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Just not do anything, just sit there and just listen
With a projection TV showingRight.
Something groovy yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Watching a game or whatever.
Dude that would be sick.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But you never know man.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Are we the people we think weare, or people others see us as?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Ooh, this is a.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Tom question, bro.
So you think you're one way,but everybody else knows you're
not.
You're either really you're adick, or you're really a good
person.
You don't realize that you are,or something to that effect.
Like well, you're just just notyou think one way.
It's like almost the same thing, when I probably shouldn't even
say this, but when people wearclothes that they probably
(18:46):
shouldn't be wearing.
You know what I mean?
Yep, same kind of thing.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, you mean like yeah, I know what you're saying.
Right, I know what you'resaying.
Yeah, yeah, are we the?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
people, we think we are or people see us another way
.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, I think in general, that's probably true
for everyone, because we alwaysperceive ourself to be a certain
way.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
This is like you can't see yourself because you
are yourself, yeah, right, yeah,and when you project and you
think there are other people.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
That's how you seem like yeah.
It's never the way you think itis when you go there, because
it's perfectly fine, that's whyyou ever see someone take like
candid video of you and you'relike, oh, it's so fucking that's
do I act?
Like do, I look like Do.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I do that.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, You're like oh, that's not how.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I am.
Yeah, I do not like that video.
Delete that shit immediately.
Yeah.
That's how you are, I know butit's funny when you see certain
things.
But if you're acting like agoofball to begin with, then it
doesn't really make a difference.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I'm acting like a goofball most of the time.
Most of the time.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So you might get away , but they may not see those
slip-ups.
It would only be you, I'm good.
Is that the person you wantpeople to see?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, you always want people to see your good side,
right?
I mean, obviously we all havethat one side, that if you push
us or something's- going on inour lives.
You're not a good, you're not avery nice person to be around,
right, you know?
Yeah, I know I'm not, so.
Yeah, I mean, but not all thetime though.
Right Only, I would hope, whenit's only necessary or
(20:23):
unfortunate.
Maybe Right Is that the rightword to use.
Right, right, right, yep, yeah,cause I'd rather be happy, but
I know that's not realistic Shit.
We were saying about age too.
You get to a point where youstart to be like this is really
not a big deal, right, right,like I made such a big deal
about this when I was whateverthis age or that age, and now
(20:43):
you're this age and you're likethis is really not a big fucking
deal.
Yeah, I wasted too much time onthat shit.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, it's true, right, yeah, definitely, it's
crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That makes sense, yep .
And again it goes to like whenyou see young kids and they talk
stuff and you're like, oh,you're very knowledgeable and
you say things and you've hadthis, that and the other.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
You don't fucking know shit.
All right, I got socks.
Older than you, sonny, yeah,yeah you know what I mean, okay.
I like that.
That works that works.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But listen, the kids today are different than the
kids that we were too, so we doshit that we probably would have
loved to done if we had thesame access they did.
That's my old job.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You know what I mean.
My old job is to have a guythat used to say that to me yeah
, I got socks all the time.
I got socks all the new year,sonny all right.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Do you work to live or live to work?
Oh no, I were.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Well, I have to work to live.
That's the only way it's well.
I think that's moremetaphorical, you know.
I mean like, do you go to workbecause you know you want to
live your life and have a goodtime, or is it that you're going
to work because you, like you,don't have anything else, that
you only?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
go to work to live.
I do not live to work yeah, Idon't live to work.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yes, no right to live , yeah, like some people are
just so wrapped up in their jobno, no, you know or their
quote-unquote career that theydon't do anything like that
maybe yes, I don't know ifthat's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Well, I think I think we're all that way because I
don't think anybody that livesto work have a podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, no, no, definitely not but they're
living to work at the podcast,to be famous, to make that the
job.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, this is added information.
This is added information.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm thinking as someone who's a nine to five.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Oh, nine to five, no.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Gotcha Slave wage, you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You know, like you know, like fucking you know,
yeah, yeah, yeah, Not workingHell, yeah, yeah, exactly, you
know like.
You know, like fucking you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm working,
none, you know hell yeah,retail hell, whatever it is, you
know whatever, any kind ofworking but yeah, like, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So if you have a job you like and love, right, but I
still wouldn't, it's not yourlife, but I still wouldn't like
it's part of your life.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's your life, would not be my entire right.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
It helped make your life better, right that's, but
it would not be my entire Right.
It would make your life better,right?
That's crazy.
It wouldn't be my whole beingRight.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Fair enough, but you need it, or like having it
Because you do really well at itand you're good at it.
That's awful, that's huge.
Yeah, you can get that in yourlife.
Hell, yeah, as long aseverything else could be going.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Exactly Down the fucking drain.
Yeah, I know Family life couldbe shit yeah yeah, yeah,
definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Sorry to be Debbie Downer here, people, jesus, you
know, this is life.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm sorry, this is what happens.
No shit, no shit.
God, what was the?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
one you had.
Oh okay, hang on, you want meto do another one?
Sure, yeah.
So we're mystery and theunknown.
Let's see.
Uh-oh, what do you thinkgovernments actually might be
hiding?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
from us.
Oh, this we can dip into the.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We got to make it so many ways, but conspiracy theory
, we got to keep it right at thetop because we can't think that
there's not going to be a deepdive.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I know so quick, fast .
Speaker 2 (23:56):
What would be the one thing that you think the
government is hiding from us?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Aliens yeah, they're still doing that.
Yeah, even though they putstuff out there.
There's so much more that theyhave that we don't even know
about, or UFOs.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
What kind of testing that they do.
Space travel there's so muchstuff there's just so much that
they probably done already thatwe have no clue about.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Like I think like building, like they have the
stuff that they've already beenbuilding on the moon.
I think that's like been there.
There's shit on the moon, Ithink.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Which side, the dark side?
It would have to be the darkside, yeah, yeah yeah, the dark
side, you'd be able to see it onthe front side.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You'd be able to see it of like a base, you know
human, the world countries, bigbusiness, whatever they've got-.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Why would you need to do that?
It wouldn't be there why?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Because mining.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Why would you need to do that?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
though, because of mining.
Oh yeah, so that's what theidea is what kind of mining,
whatever, or that they say thatRemember the movie.
Time Machine Time Machine TimeMachine Time Machine Time
Machine.
With a guy Orson Welles movie.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
No, the guy comes back.
It was the newer one that wasmade from an older movie.
Guy comes back.
He built the time machine backin the 1920s, or something like
that.
He comes back, yes, and onepart of the time that he comes
back to the moon is cracked inhalf.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah, that's that same movie,
yeah, Cracked in half, I supposeBecause they were mining on the
moon.
Yes, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yes, so they need to be careful, man.
Well, and Now the moon ispretty.
For what I'm saying, it'sactually part of us, because,
it's from what I understand, wecollided Right and then and then
it moved away.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, yeah, so now.
But then it's not.
I mean not just mining on themoon itself.
You know, that's like the stopbefore, because it's easier to
launch off of the moon becauseless gravity, so then they can
just go to different planets andwhatnot.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It makes sense.
That's the idea.
Well, I always knew they wantedto use the moon for that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
So that's why I said that would be the one thing that
I would like to know.
Yeah, then there's then thisconspiracy about the dark side
of the moon yeah, right, yeah,crazy, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay, here you go.
This is a little bit of adeeper one.
Do you trust anyone with yourlife?
Because I would hope so.
Yeah, yeah, I, I probably gotlike I probably have like two or
three people, but now I guessit depends on how much with your
life do you really trust, liketo jump in front of a bullet for
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you.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
No, I don't expect anybody to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
No, I'm just like.
I mean not, you know.
Yeah, I mean not like movieworthy, like no jump in front of
the bullet, you know, but Imean like movie worthy like no
get in front of the bullet, youknow, but I mean, you know like
if they see somebody with mylife.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I don't know, does anybody trust me with their life
?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but I mean you know againI would hope so.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I guess, when the time comes or if it was
necessary, yeah, I would hopethat whoever that person is
right, that person is is therewhen it happens.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Because I mean, you know like am I going to turn
around and be like?
You know, you see me crossingthe street.
Are you going to come and runand, you know, pull me out of
the path of whatever vehicle isgoing to hit me.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know like my friend Frankie did to me when I
was a kid.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, or are you just going to yell?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
You're going to yell that goes my hero.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh my God, bro, you guys are hilarious with that
shit, holy frioles.
Okay, let's see what else I gothere.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Is there knowledge humans aren't meant to have?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So is there anything that we?
Shouldn't know about,regardless of how I think
anything that could destroy theplanet whoa anything that's
destructive like, like this,like like this.
You know, this theory is aboutthe hadrian collider yeah like
possibly making like dark matterthat could create a black hole
(27:50):
right.
Oh wonderful, like in sawdustgrows bigger and bigger and
bigger that exists, we shouldn'tknow about it because someone's
going to think they can do itin a safe way and they're trying
it yeah.
We could do it a safe way.
It's in a vacuum.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It's always a safe way.
It goes fucking sideways andthere you go.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
We shouldn't know anything like that, because it's
going to be our destruction,right, right right, it's just
inevitable, even if it's goingto be our destruction.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right, right, right, it's just inevitable, even if
it's 100 years from now, youknow that they do a test like
that.
It's not going to be anywherenear here.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, do it like on another galaxy.
It's going to be somewhere far,far, far away in a galaxy.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
No, no, no, yeah, no, no.
They're doing it right now onEarth on the other side of the
planet.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's fantastic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they'vebeen doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They can control it, though Is it so far?
Is it an actual black hole?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No, no, no, no, no.
They could make the black holeif they get the dark matter to
crash.
They've already collided thatshit a hundred fucking million
times and it hasn't made a blackhole yet, but they're learning
but they're learning yes, butthey're learning stuff just from
the collision of what happenedwith the big bang.
(29:03):
That was the main.
So for me it was recorded.
It was recorded an videocomputer analysis.
It was like all there, all thedot, the data, the data is dead
the data.
So then, why now would?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
you do it again.
They keep doing it because theywant to.
They're trying to keep gettingit to give more information.
Yeah, I don't know if we coulddo a black hole here, as like an
energy generator type thing,because a lot of people talk
about dark matter, energy.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
That could be like that we don't even see that,
yeah, like like that we canharness energy and have like a
limited power right, yeah, this,this society going to let that
happen.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Not a million fucking years, well, but you know what?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Here's the thing, though If it was something like
that, we can't even make ithappen because we can't see it,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
That's the shame that , like greed prevents it, we
could be like light years ahead.
Mm-hmm, wouldn't it be great ifyou create your own energy
source at your home.
You do it, you get it.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You run it, you have your own energy source, nobody's
billing you nothing, you takecare of it, you maintain it Like
.
In other words, you have it,it's eco-friendly, right, right.
Wouldn't that be better, wherepeople would get to the point
where they have their own,they're in control of their
ecosystem, right, their home,yes, and they don't have to pay
(30:19):
anybody for the energy.
Give them the money or anythinglike that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But, people like that shit.
You would hope it would getlike that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I think Star Trek was like that.
Yeah, if you think about it,they were like that Everything
was, there was no work.
You just you know helpedsociety.
Yeah, you know, you know it'strue Helped society.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, that would be fantastic, that would be a good
one, that would be cool, right,that would be way, way cool.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, Okay you ready?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Listen, I'm a little fruity with the sci-fi you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I can't help it.
Here you go, here you go.
What's something that offendsyou?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
okay, fair enough, sorry it was no, no, no, no, no,
okay, yeah I forgot that theystill existed.
Let's go to tom back to yousuper uncomfortable right now.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
That's funny sorry guys, I not what offends me is
just people that like are justlike assholes, like people that
like are like I don't give ashit if you don't want my
opinion.
I hate that shit you know whatI mean.
It's just a matter of being anasshole.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Don't be a jerk.
That's the shit I hate.
Why do people have to shit onfucking people?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
don't be an asshole, don't poo poo on, don't poo-poo
on me, right, right right, nopoo-poo here.
No, but no, I mean seriouslylike that thing, and I know what
it is is to make themselvesfeel better, that's always what
it comes down to.
Right, right, like just peopleare just dicks, like that's the
kind of shit I don't like.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's, don't need for it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Offended.
I'm sure there's a lot thatoffends me.
You know it depends on when ithappens, people like that.
But yeah, mostly I just don'twant to see anything get hurt or
you know, because of somebody'snegligence or something.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Or somebody I mean like I like now.
I love the MMA right.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I love watching that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But I like, when I see, when these guys who are the
ones that do stupid shit, andthen they get in the ring with
the guy and they lose, and theylose and it's you know, and you
hope that they learn from that,like you know, don't take it as
a fail necessarily.
But now you're like, okay,maybe you just learn from that.
You don't fucking do that rightnow.
Those guys are warriors, so Iwould never, of course, know
(32:39):
them what to do.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , you know what I mean.
Yeah, not just saying this, butit's just something I'm
thinking about that is freaking,no it's hilarious.
Yeah, that is freakinghilarious.
Oh, you another one up in theOoh.
You got another one up in there.
I got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
What's something you've experienced that you
can't logically explain?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Oh Wait, what's that Something?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
you what, what's?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
something you've experienced.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
What's something you've experienced that you
can't logically explain?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Hmm, Now logically meaning well, I don't know what
it means.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
It could be anything in your life.
Okay, it could be anything thathappens to you, that you're
just like.
I can't explain this.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Spiritual encounter in my grandparents' house in
Boston, Nice.
That was Creepy.
Thinking about it now, wellthrough the years.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Was it somebody you knew?
Did you know who was it?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
No, no, no, we don't know, we don't know, we don't
know, you don't know.
Yeah, don't know, because therewas a few things that happened.
But I can't, like my cousinsand I, we can't really explain
them, you know, we just knowthat they happened, right?
No-transcript.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It freaked me the fuck out.
When I was a kid, we lived inan apartment building I may have
told you guys this before whenI was just working on my bike in
my father's shop and it wasdaytime outside.
But I felt like I needed to getout, didn't feel right, like
something was watching me orsomething was wrong, you know
just, and I would just run outof the fucking thing, go out
(34:22):
into the sun hang out outside.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, that was now, that was all the time, or just.
No, that only happened a coupletimes and it really happened a
lot, you know it was just, itwasn't cool.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, you remember that likethat leads to fucking, like,
even to this day, you're likewhat, the yeah, what the hell is
that yeah, I got something.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I call it the.
I actually gave a name for itwhat, what, what the uh
occurrence was, but it was aweird thing I saw in the sky and
I it's not ufo related, I meanit could have been but I call it
the cloud factory.
So I was outside one day thisis in my maybe my 20s got to my
(35:00):
backyard in the house I grew upin and I'm looking out, I'm
looking in the sky and I seethis fucking cloud and it's
growing and then it would likeit would grow and then split off
and go in.
And then it would grow andsplit off and go in the other.
It would grow, but like at afast.
It was like, oh, I've seenreally a santi, but no shit,
(35:22):
like something was making thecloud.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, weird whoa.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
And this is before this is before smartphones,
right like I had a flip phone.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
But yeah, if you try to take a picture of the sky, it
wasn't gonna happen, right, itwould be like just a blotchy
mess, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So like, yeah, I just I just like kept making, like I
don't understand it, like itwas, like it's like the flat,
the cloud was like growing, andthen it would break off and then
just go in the same directionlike a factory like, yeah, like
it was making clouds, and theyjust how big were these clouds,
I I mean if you're looking up atthe sky little clouds, maybe
(35:58):
like the size of your hand inthe sky.
Yeah, they were not decent, nothuge Right.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But yeah, all right, I'm not just asking, I'm just
curious, I'm not going to make acloudy sky.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
It was a it wasn't and it wasn't.
Cloudy day.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Ooh.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
It was the only cloud in the sky.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
No way, dude, that is bananas.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
What the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Was that UFO activities?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Maybe, or was it some natural?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
thing, that phenomenon or it was the
government making clouds forrain.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Making rain clouds.
Who knows, there's a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Listen, you see that stuff in the sky.
People see things that just donot make sense.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
This is not yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
wow, that's crazy man I've seen a streak in this, in
this guy come driving up fromnew york, coming upstate.
It didn't look like a like atakeoff, almost like a star trek
stream oh, no shit, yeah, yeah,yeah, oh, that's gotta be so.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That's why I named it the cloud factory yeah, I'm
saying that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It was all going in the same direction.
That's craziness, dude.
Yeah, no, it was around rightnear the assembly line.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, I stopped and then threw away Up.
This way, this is the oneclosest to us.
Okay, right around that areaSaw that thing.
Just colorless, just extreme.
That colors just stream, that'sfun.
Something just took off.
That's wild, that's crazy,that's that's spooky.
Because I remember saying, oh,did you just see that?
Yeah, I had the ranger game ontoo.
(37:26):
I believe that's what it was.
You were so lost in that thingthat is crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
You got another one dude.
Oh, I got plenty, you don'thave one, my friend.
Tom, just like thinking off thecuff.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
No, that's insane, that what does a life well live
look like to you?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
well, my son, I think .
I think just a lot of lifeexperiences, maybe experience
life, you know, yeah, live life,live life, experience life,
yeah, so I think everyone'sgonna learn from an opinion like
some people get like well tohave a family, and some people
are like I don't need to likehave a wife and kids, I want to
(38:12):
be single my whole life rightand that doesn't mean that their
life isn't no, completer,everybody's different.
Yeah, so I guess that's whyit's a good question, because
we're all different.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
We're all different.
What's good for you is not goodfor somebody else.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I just think just to like experience life and not
like be happy, just I think thewhole like I would teach the
life like someone who, like likewe were talking about work to
live.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Like live to work, like, oh, like, why would you do
that?
Why would you do that?
Yeah, that's just miserable.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
You're miserable doing that.
That's not good, I have to lookforward to retirement.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, but like why not enjoy life until retirement
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
enjoy, you know, yeah , you got to work.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
And, and, then you can continue to enjoy it while
you're retired, right, do yourvacations.
Enjoy the family yeah, exactly,yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
All right, here's another one.
If you disappeared tomorrow,what would be your mark on the
world?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Oh, the pee stain on the bed.
Wow, no, you know what?
What?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
would be your mark.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
The laster, yeah, the laster that I think I've left,
yeah, just being Well, that'skind of really big Like oh, I
invented this and I did that.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, Do we all leave a mark onthe world.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
It's a good question, do you think?
Do you leave a mark?
Yes, do you think it's like inthe movie?
It's a Wonderful Life, yes,life, yes.
Can you see your life beingthat way, in a scenario where
you think something like thatwould happen?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
where you were involved, where you helped
somebody.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
If I didn't exist, what would happen?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Someone might die or someone might not be born or
whatever.
We would be lost in thispodcast.
If not for you, right, wewouldn't have you in this, right
?
See what I'm saying, see whatLou's saying.
I think the laughter that Ithink I laughter that, I think I
believe that I, the smiles thatI put on, I think they're going
to remember everything.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, and they're going to.
I hope that they remembereverything and laugh at all of
it, Right, and say he was afreaking nut and oh, if he did
this he'd lose his fucking mindyou know, like I know'm not
going to say that shit, that'ssupposed to happen.
Right, you know and you hopethey do better than you.
You know what I mean, but Ihope they laugh and cry, and you
(40:25):
know, and poke fun at me andall that shit.
Yeah, Because if they're talkingabout me in a good way, not in
such a negative, or oh, I hatedhim, or I didn't like him, I'm
sure I'll have those people,which is fine.
They can go fuck themselves.
Yeah, oh, exactly, bro, thenI'm fine, I don't really need
anybody else.
And believe it or not?
It's true what they say aboutyour world shrinking as you get
(40:47):
older.
In other words, you don't needthat many people in your life to
be happy.
Right, right, which is true.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
It does it is fucking true yeah, weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Tom, no, no, I think I was just agreeing with Lou
said how when you get older,your world does shrink.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Oh, yeah, no, no, same, but what would be yours
Like?
What do you think?
What do you think your markwould be?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Me, I mean good father.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Like that kind of thing.
But on the world I don't, Idon't, I don't, I don't think of
myself in any kind of you knowwell, I mean, like you know, to
the world, I mean that soundslike oh well if to the world
like I don't, I don't, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well, the world probably means more your world
yeah, yeah, yeah good, dad, Ilike that one that's like that
one, that's groovy.
Yeah, yeah, that's groovy, Icould dig that.
Yeah, I can dig that.
Oh, so with that one, though,fellas, that was a good one,
that was a good one, I like that.
I like the spontaneousquestions or when we had a list
(41:51):
of questions.
But you is that, it's prettygroovy, I can dig it All right.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
We're going to do one more.
Nope, we're going to do onemore.
We're going to do one more.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
All right, is it more important?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
One more song, one more time Is it more important
to leave something behind or toenjoy it now, or enjoy the now,
enjoy the now, ooh, in otherwords enjoy life now and not
worry.
Worry about what you're goingto leave behind.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
But I don't know, because for me I believe that
you believe you need to leave alegacy or something Legacy.
If I do it now, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I'll be dead Give me that.
Well no, but I mean, I know, Iknow, I know, I'm going to be
someplace different.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm not going to care about what's going on here
anymore.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
You know, I guess it depends on your personality.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
If you, if that's something that's important.
Legacy is something that'simportant to you.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I don't know, if I need a legacy.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Maybe you're a professional and you maybe
you're a musician, likesomething like that.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Like I could understand you know Well because
I mean, but I believe that ifyou're living the right way,
Because maybe you've alreadykind of started to build a
legacy, right, yeah, exactly,and you want to continue it,
right?
But I think we all have that toan extent.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Of course you have the life, a good life.
I don't think it's a legacy.
I mean it's like it's not likeyou know.
But we leave our marks anyways,because if you're doing and
they're, going to leave it ontheir children, and so on, and
so on, and so on.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Even still like you know, we go by what you In 100
years.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Nobody's going to remember us bro.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Right, well, again, yeah, they won't, because
nobody's going to be alive toremember us in 100 years.
Exactly yeah, so you know, Iget that.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I'm just saying it's not important.
When you're gone Will you livethis life?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, but just remember though, and those who
go after before us.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Once we leave behind, they'll follow.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Fair enough.
I learned this from your great,great great great father.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
They will follow.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah, you know, but it's what you do now is
definitely going to leave a markto be remembered after you're
gone.
I hope a good one.
Yeah, yeah, I hope so too.
Yeah, I hope so too, so thatthen that'll be the last
question.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
All right.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
That being said, that was it, that was the.
That was just pretty, but itwas nice, all right.
So, with all that, appreciateeverybody, thank you for being
here with us.
Thank you, love, peace and hairgrease.
Live long, and prosper YoBye-bye.
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