Episode #20 - Overcoming Fear with Jenn Drummond, Multiple Guinness World Record holder and the first woman to climb the Seven Second Summits

In this deeply inspiring episode, Emotionologist Curtis Morley sits down with Jenn Drummond, an entrepreneur, mother of seven, and the first woman to climb the Seven Second Summits—the second-highest peaks on every continent, a task most mountaineers consider more difficult than summitting the Seven Summits, which are well-tracked and commonly navigated. Jenn shares how a near-fatal car accident awakened her to the reality that “someday” is not a day of the week. Determined to live with purpose, she set out to show her children—and herself—that anything is possible.

The conversation blends gripping mountaineering stories with emotional lessons about fear, resilience, courage, and identity. Jenn recounts the intense dangers of climbing K2, overcoming fear while crossing ladders on Everest, and learning to move forward even in moments of grief—like when she lost a teammate in an avalanche. Her reflections on curiosity, faith, and perseverance turn physical mountains into powerful metaphors for life’s challenges.

Life’s Not a Practice Run

• Jenn’s accident taught her to live intentionally—no more waiting for “someday.”
• Everyday is sacred. Everyday is a gift
• Every mountain (literal or metaphorical) is a chance to step into courage.

Fear Screams Loudest Before the First Step

• Crossing the Ladder on Everest
• Fear doesn’t disappear but it shrinks when we take the first steo and each following step.
• “You don’t need to be brave; you just need to move.”

Curiosity Is the Birthplace of Possibility

• “Curiosity is the birthplace of possibility.”
• Curiosity like mountain climbing continually takes us higher
• Approaching challenges with curiosity turns fear into growth.

Redefining Strength

• Courage is not the absence of fear but taking steps through it.
• True strength comes from emotional regulation, not avoidance. It is key to progress.

People Over Peaks

• When faced with tragedy, Jenn chose compassion and integrity over ambition.
• Legacy matters more than accomplishment.

Authentic vs. Counterfeit Emotions

• Authentic emotions connect and move us upward; counterfeit ones loop back to itself.
• Fear and control are at the root of counterfeit emotions.

Resilience Through Adversity

• Each summit taught perseverance, adaptability, and faith.
• Even failed climbs became lessons in purpose and humility.
• This life is about learning, moving, and doing.

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