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Wade Forster musical life is a movie in the making. Absolutely a great conversation I'm a huge fan of Australian slang, and a huge fan of the music Wade makes. I'm so happy America has embraced his talent, and I hope he thrives in the country music scene in the USA. He's real and he's talented, but just don't call him Champ.

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
We are on the Country vs.

(00:01):
Metal podcast with Wade Forster.
How are you doing, sir?
I'm good, and you?
Dude, I'm doing great.
I appreciate you taking yourtime.

SPEAKER_00 (00:10):
Nah, man.
It's all good.
I had to get up anyway.
The time difference sort ofworks perfectly for stuff like
this.

SPEAKER_01 (00:17):
Yeah, it's amazing.
You know, you're literallyacross the world.

SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
Yeah.
Nah, it is crazy considering alot of the people that do
podcasts with me are on thatside of the world.
So I don't get a lot inAustralia.
So yeah, I'm kind of used to itby now.

SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
Yeah.
Now when someone, somebody fromyour team, or I don't know if it
was you contacted me and saidthat you were doing your first
tour over at the States and Ishould check you out.
Now, had, had I not gotten theheads up that you were
Australian, I don't, I don'tthink I would have noticed just
from your music.
Does, does that bother you?

(00:56):
I mean,

SPEAKER_00 (00:59):
not really.
Like, I grew up on Americancountry music so like my singing
style I think was influenced bythat like I grew up rodeoing
with dad and that and he used toplay Brooks and Dunn and you
know Big and Rich I don't knowwhy I listen to so much Big and
Rich as a kid but I love Big andRich and you know all them old

(01:20):
school country boys like Georgeand Garth and you know all that
were on CDs in the car going toa rodeo so I think that shaped
how I I didn't really listen toa lot of Australian country
music until I got into it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:35):
Is there a big Australian country music scene?

SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
I mean, yeah, there is.
It's still pretty niche at themoment.
I've got a big festival thisweekend.
But for an Australian to sort ofget in the spotlight, we sort of
need to get in your spotlight,if you know what I mean.
We've got a decent enough scene.
There's a heap of us singing anda lot of songs coming out.

(02:02):
But yeah, it's all still prettyniche.

SPEAKER_01 (02:06):
Yeah.
It's funny.
Uh, when we were in the lobby,we were really dealing with, uh,
technical difficulties, but Ilove Australian slang.
I absolutely love it.
And like, but like, if you wereto be like, put like the

(02:27):
Australian, uh, influence in it,like nobody would know what you
were talking about.
Like if the song cigarettes, ifyou called it, uh, Duffy's.

SPEAKER_00 (02:37):
Yeah, Duffy's, yeah.
But, like, yeah, even, like,trucks.
We don't call them trucks.
We call them utes.
So, like, I had to translatethat.
Otherwise, only people from myhometown would listen to songs
like that.

SPEAKER_01 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah.
It's like you sing a song aboutcheap wine, plonk.
yeah that's

SPEAKER_00 (02:58):
our box one

SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
yeah or what do they call that goon yeah goons yeah i
i i worked before he became ahuge boss he was uh australian
and i used to love using thelingo with him and man like like
we we run like a pretty bigsection of uh of of the railroad

(03:22):
and i changed i knew he's comingdown i changed all the
backgrounds to koala bears andhe's like oh i think that was
funny and i was like yeah i justwanted you to make you feel like
you're at home and here it waslike taking all the ram away and
it was almost like crashed theentire system but i this slang i
love it because it's just likeif uh if Willie Nelson was

(03:44):
Australian and is it redheadedstranger, it'd be a bluey
stranger.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love the, the irony in theslightest.
It's like some of my favoritethings.
Cause I, I listened, listened tothe chats.

SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
Like, Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:02):
Yeah.
But dude, when they, they kindof like the same deal, like what
happened with you?
Like they went viral with, withSmoko.
Yeah.
And they're very into the slang.
And I'm like, Cause I'm like,what a Rothy blues.
I need to, I need to translatethis.
And I just love how other, youknow, I love slang and I love, I

(04:24):
love lingo, but they kind of hadlike this, the same path you
did.
Cause you, you went viral withthe Tyler Childers, right?
Was that the, was that the, thatwas the first.

SPEAKER_00 (04:35):
Yeah.
That was the first song Ireleased on Spotify on that.
And I didn't think much of it.
Like that was during COVID.
and like I was stuck at home solike I was living on my mum and
dad's cattle station and it'slike 60,000 acres out in western
Queensland and like we're stuckthere during COVID so like we

(04:58):
couldn't we saw each other everyday for like a year we didn't
see anyone else and I wasalready playing guitar then and
I was like alright I might aswell do something and I was like
I don't want to release one ofmy songs just yet and I stumbled
on Onida by Tyler Childers onYouTube.
And I was like, why hasn't hereleased this?

(05:18):
This is a masterclass.
And now he has, like three orfour years later.
But that was the first song.
And I recorded that on aniPhone, like uploaded it off an
iPhone.
Like I didn't even have amicrophone or anything.

SPEAKER_01 (05:34):
That's why I tell people, like, when they're like,
all I have is this and I don'thave this.
I'm like, dude, talent willshine through.
And that's an absolute greatexample of, you know, people can
tell.
Yeah.
Yeah, the audience will be like,this guy can sing, you

SPEAKER_00 (05:53):
know.
It wasn't a big drama for mebecause, like, in a lot of
people's eyes, they're like, oh,you should have went and
recorded that as a band.
with big band and this and thatand I'm like I'd be pretty happy
to record most of my songsacoustic just guitar because
that's how I wrote them you knowlike I think that shows more

(06:15):
talent than having the full bandbehind you but you know people
like the full band you know

SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
yeah yeah and like with acoustic there's no place
to hide

SPEAKER_00 (06:25):
exactly but that's how I write my songs like I
don't want to hide you know Iwant to if I fuck up I want
people to see that

SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
And then I read you got your first guitar for$50 on
Facebook Marketplace.

SPEAKER_00 (06:41):
Yeah, I still got it.
I was working in this town.
It's sort of like a, I don'tknow if you have a big mining
town over there, but our bigmining town in Queensland is
called Mount Isa.
And I was there doing arefrigeration apprenticeship.
And I was a young cowboy in atown full of old cowboys so

(07:05):
there wasn't a lot of oh let'sgo rope steers until midnight
you know because they all hadfamilies they weren't wanting to
stay out so I was often prettybored and I could have gone
drinking or something like thatand I was like oh I don't want
to go drinking every weekend soI bought a guitar for a hobby

(07:26):
didn't think much of it taughtmyself off of YouTube I think
the first song I learnt wasWagon Wheel and then the second
song I learnt was Deer Rodeo byCody John That's it.
Nice.

(07:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (08:00):
First, the whole being on a 60,000 acre property
on COVID, that's probably themost isolated I've ever heard of
anybody.
And just that landmass, to me,that's incredible.
Because I know people that havefarms that it was a couple

(08:22):
hundred acres, and I thoughtthat was just mind-blowing.
But 60,000 acres.

SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
That's like a mid to small size operation in
Australia.
I worked on a cattle stationstraight out of school in Julia
Creek and it was 1.7 millionacres.
And I remember the first day Iwas there, I was mustering on
this horse and it started likebucking and carrying on.

(08:50):
I'm like, I'm in the middle ofnowhere.
They won't find me if I fall offthis thing.
But, yeah, no, it did trip meout a little bit.
Like when I first was talking toCody, Cody's like, oh, I've got
this amount of acres.
He's like, how big is yourplace?
I'm like, it's 60,000 acres he'sgot.
It blew his head off.

(09:10):
And he's like, I didn't know youcould have that much.

SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
Yeah.
And that's just a family fun.

SPEAKER_00 (09:19):
Yeah.
That's just family.
There's a lot of company classesthat have a bit more, but most
of the time it's just familiesthat have acres out there.
A lot of cattle.
People in America still think wedo a lot of sheep, but sheep's

(09:42):
sort of not really happeninghere anymore.
Not where I am anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (09:47):
Yeah, it's cool to hear it's families.
Over here, that would be like acorporation.
You know what I mean?
Like a Purdue or

SPEAKER_00 (09:57):
Tyson.
No, Dad would never.
Dad would never.
He's like that.
The only person he works for isthe bank.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Dude, that's funny.

UNKNOWN (10:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:13):
Like, yeah, Cody's reaction is definitely on par
with mine because, you know, I'mpretty sure he just said 60,000.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (10:23):
yeah.
That's awesome.
Especially as a young fellow,like, you want to go, you know,
shoot kangaroos or, you know,ride horses through creeks and
that, you don't have to worryabout going through a fence or
finding a gate because thererarely is one.
You can just go for miles andmiles.

SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (10:43):
It's

SPEAKER_01 (10:43):
it's funny you know like over here I can I'll speak
for Americans when I say likewhen we think of Australia like
we were scared to death of yourwildlife

SPEAKER_00 (10:59):
oh we are too don't worry like everything in
Australia can kill you andthat's the easiest way to put it
like kangaroos everyone thinksthey're harmless like kangaroos
can kill you in five seconds

SPEAKER_01 (11:12):
yeah they're nuisance animals I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
How many people don't know

SPEAKER_01 (11:16):
that?

SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
They're our biggest pest.
They're our biggest pest.
And on their foot, they've gotthree claws, and that middle
one's razor sharp.
They'll kick you in the guts andjust rip everything out

SPEAKER_01 (11:27):
of

SPEAKER_00 (11:28):
you.
They're awful things.
And they're actually pricksbecause they like– if you've got
dogs, dogs hate kangaroos, andthat's just a food chain.
They'll coach dogs, make themcome to you.
water like by like oh chase mechase me and they'll run chasing
these kangaroos they'll get themto water and they'll put them

(11:49):
under water and they'll try todrown the dogs they're pricks
like I hate them like peoplemake livings in Australia by
shooting kangaroos like theydon't have a job like that's
their job they shoot kangaroosfor a living like that's a
normal job to have in Australiawow um Yeah, spiders, snakes,

(12:13):
like anything can kill you outhere.
Yeah, it's...
I think we've got like eight ofthe most venomous snakes in the
world or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
Yeah, that's nuts.
That's why I like the northeast.
I think the only thing, we havelike copperheads down south.
It's

SPEAKER_00 (12:35):
funny.
I want to see a rattlesnake.
I want to see one.
I always thought like, nah,that's not real.
Snakes don't make that noise.
Everyone's telling me, yeah,they'll rattle and that's why
they're called that.
I'm like, I need to say it tobelieve it yeah

SPEAKER_01 (12:52):
I'm fine with

SPEAKER_00 (12:52):
the

SPEAKER_01 (12:52):
video I do oh man snakes stuff like that I don't
like animals that I can't telltheir temperament I man dogs you
can tell you check the tail youhave an idea they may be crafty
but for the most part butreptiles and all that and when
you you get no tails not a fan

SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
well don't come to Australia then they won't tell
No, they'll be like, oh, comeover and pat me and then they'll
hit you or bite you orsomething.
Like dad's got a blue dog thatwe can't even take to rodeos
anymore.
It's savage.
If one of my friends tries tocome around to my horse trailer
to have a beer or something at arodeo, he'll call before he gets

(13:40):
there.
He's like, is Doddy there?
And I'm like, no, Doddy's tiedup.
It's all good.
And he'll walk really widearound the trailer to get to me
because that dog would just grabhim.
Real unassuming, but he'd bewagging his tail like, oh, here
you go, and then whack, bite.

SPEAKER_01 (13:58):
That's funny.
In the rodeo, have you donerodeos in the US?

SPEAKER_00 (14:07):
I've done one with at Belton, Texas.
I did the Cody Johnson teamopen.
That was It was sort of like myfirst introduction to it because
Cody said he was running it andhe called me up and he was like,
come over, we'll rope, I'll getyou some partners, all that.
And I was like, yep, sweet.

(14:28):
Didn't really know what toexpect.
But then like I was ropingagainst some of the greatest in
the world, like some of thegreatest ever do it, you know.
And I even got to rope with likeLuke Branquino who's like an
icon to me, like used to watchhis tapes as a kid steer
wrestling, winning world titles.
Roped with Joe Beaver, the manthat built the roof on the

(14:51):
Thomas and Mac.
Like, you know, crazy stuff likethat.
Cody did miss for me in thesecond round.
I won't forget it.
He missed in the team roping forme.
And I was like, you dragged meall the way from Australia for
that?
And he's like, shut up.

SPEAKER_01 (15:06):
That's funny.
Now, are the animals, who wouldwin, an Australian versus a
Texan lifestyle for the rodeo?
Are they on the same level?

SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
Yeah, they're somewhat on the same level.
I reckon the Texan boysdefinitely get better cattle
because they're better trained.
They're always roping.
They make a living off of it.
In Australia, we've still got tohave a job.
to fund the rodeo because itdoesn't pay as well.
Some people do, don't get mewrong.

(15:42):
Some people do the rodeo allyear round.
But for me, it was six or sevenhours to my closest rodeo in the
pro circuit.
So yeah, I was working all weekjust to go to the rodeo to see
if I could win some more money.
But in terms of cowboys...

(16:02):
A few Texans have come down hereand tried the Australian stock
and haven't really fared well.
But us Aussies go over there andwe put on a show.
Like Kai Hamilton, he won theworld.
I wrote a song about abulldogger that I used to travel
around with called Travis Munro.
He's giving them hell in thesteer wrestling right now.
All the cowboys that are doinggood, they're all packing up and

(16:27):
moving over there because theywant to show America that
Australia's here.
We're not like...
like a second nation when itcomes to rodeo, we're right up
there with you.

SPEAKER_01 (16:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
I'm like, man, I totally lost mytrain of thought.
Now, as a true rodeo guy andcowboy, how do you know when...

(16:57):
What's a tell of that guy's afake?
Can you spot him a mile away?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I

SPEAKER_00 (17:04):
can spot him.
And I deal with it a lot inAustralia.
Even some artists, they put thehat on, fresh pair of Wrangler
jeans.
I've seen some embarrassingones.
I saw a dude in a crowd at oneof my shows.
He still had the stickers on hisjeans.

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And I was like, oh, God.
He bought them today.
I've seen people go on stagewith their cowboy hat on
backwards in Australia.
And I'm like, oh.
it's, yeah, I could spot them amile away.
I've seen a lot of it,especially in music scene, not

(17:46):
as much in radio.
You can, there's a bigdifference between the Cowboys
and the crowd at an Australianradio.

SPEAKER_01 (17:54):
Yeah.
It's also something like if, ifI'm going to lie, like if I'm
like, yeah, I ride bulls andyou're at a place where someone
can be like, all right, you'renext, you know, like, no, you
know, like, I've never been on abull.
You know, you can go walk, youcan go pet a dairy cow, but you

(18:15):
look over and you see, you seethem just moving their, their
legs and they're just, I'm like,no, no, you're over there for a
reason.
But yeah, like, uh, I, I've, youknow, I've never been involved
with the rodeo.
I I've been, I've been likeonce, but in my, it would be for

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like, it'd be like me.
getting on my motorcycle onpurpose and wreck it.
That's how I translate ridingbulls and chasing down animals
and throwing them down and justjumping off your horse and
wrestling these things down tothe ground.

SPEAKER_00 (18:58):
I saw someone on TikTok say something funny about
it.
It's like, oh, rodeo is likefilling a kiddie pool full of
water, getting your mate to filla kiddie pool full of water and
then you're on the roof andyou're blindfolded and he said,
yeah, you're right, jump in it.
And it might be full of water,it might not.
And you might hit the ground andget hurt, but you might fall in
the water and have a good time.
But, yeah.

(19:20):
That's what I thought, like, oh,yeah, that's a perfect analogy
of rodeo because, like, theamount of people that go, oh,
no, he's a good bull and he justmonsters the absolute shit out
of them, you know?

UNKNOWN (19:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (19:31):
But, like, I never rode bulls.
I had a go at bronc riding,saddle bronc, but I wasn't quick
enough, so I just stuck to timedevents and do, like, roping and
steer wrestling and stuff likethat.
I dabbled in calf roping, wasn'tquick enough for that either.
But, like...
I travel around with bullriders.

(19:53):
It's different in Australia.
All the bull riders would travelaround together in America and
all the team ropers, they stickto their events where Australia.
I've been in a car where I'vegot two bull riders, one bronc
rider and a bow racer and me.
And we're going to the samerodeo and we're all helping each

(20:14):
other out.
I've gone and pulled bull ropesfor my mates and stuff like that
and that pushed the ears out forme and the team ropers.
It's very family-orientated inAustralia, where in America it's
all about getting to the finals.
And it's still about getting tothe finals in Australia, but we
sort of like, oh, we've got tomake do because we're traveling
together.

(20:34):
We've got to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 (20:38):
Yeah, so it's definitely more camaraderie over
in Australia.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
yeah.
And everyone in Australia wantsto see their mate beat them too.
So like a good example, I saw abunch of bull riders that I know
travel up to our biggest rodeo,Mount Isa, and they won first,
second, and there was three ofthem in the car.
They won first, second, andthird.
And it paid really well.

(21:06):
So I don't know, them boys mighthave went on a holiday to the
casino or something the nextweekend.
But, yeah, no, they had a goodweekend.

SPEAKER_01 (21:13):
Yeah.
Can you make a living juststrictly doing the rodeo?
Some do, some

SPEAKER_00 (21:22):
don't.

SPEAKER_01 (21:22):
Tough grind, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
Yeah, it doesn't pay as well as American rodeos do,
but some people get by on it,but I couldn't.
That's why I got into singing.
I can use the singing to fund abit of rodeoing, but even then I
think I'm slowing up a bit andI'll just stick to doing the
bigger ones and who knows, I'llsnag a check and might make it
back to finals, but...

(21:45):
All them littler shows are sortof going to be hard for me to
get to now.
Like, the plan is to move overthere probably next year to the
States and give music a hotcrack.
But, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
Yeah.
Man, I saw a video of you, like,your first show in Texas and– it
was a really cool moment whenpeople started singing the words
and he's like, you could tellyou, it was, that had to be
amazing.
Cause you know, like, You'refrom halfway across the world.

SPEAKER_00 (22:21):
It was one of the biggest shocks because for a
long time, I was on TikTok andpeople are using my sound.
I'm like, oh, there's so manypeople in America, but I'm
probably still very niche overthere.
And the comments kept coming in,come to Texas, come to Oklahoma.
I had one person say, come toNew York.
And I was like, me in New York,I don't think that'd be a

(22:44):
reality TV show.
But when I...
I was over there for that CMAFest last year in 2024.
I was with mum and dad and theywere like, oh, we should go to
Texas so we can buy some ropesand that.
The first thing dad wanted to dowas go to NRS and Teske's and
buy a new saddle and buy newbridles and that for his horses.

(23:07):
And don't get me wrong, I wasthe same.
I reckon I spent about 10 grandat both them shops American just
because you can't get that stuffin Australia.
You've got to ship it over here.
And we were like, oh, we'realready over here, might as well
buy it, throw out all of ourclothes and put it in our
suitcases.
And...
I was talking to a friend andhe's like, you could do a pop-up

(23:29):
show in Texas and I'll help youorganize it.
And he helped me do all that.
And I was like, you know, 20, 30people might come, you know,
some straggler boys on thestockyards at Fort Worth.
And outside of Chief Records, wehad about 350 people rock up
before I'd even picked up aguitar.

(23:51):
And I was like, That's crazy.
I can't get 350 people to a showin Australia sometimes.
But in America, there was a dudethere who drove six hours and
lost his job just to watch meplay.
And I was like, okay, I need tofocus on America because I was

(24:12):
singing in Australia for yearsand had all those songs out and
they'd only come if I was anhour away, let alone six.
if the footy was on, sometimes,like if the football was on,
sometimes people wouldn't comebecause they're like, nah,
footy's on.
I'm like...
I drove two full days to gethere to sing, and you can't even

(24:35):
rock up.
But America, I put them tourdates out.
I sold Fort Worth out in 24hours.

SPEAKER_01 (24:42):
Yeah.
I saw your tour.
There's a lot of sold-out dates.
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (24:48):
Yeah, there's a few more.
We haven't updated the poster ina minute, but yeah.
It's nearly all but sold out,which is for a first American
headline tour for me is like I'mstill trying to process it like
as an Australian going overthere and selling out shows like

(25:09):
that I'm like alright maybe I'llmove here because it's hard to
do that in Australia like you'dbe lucky to sell them out
beforehand if not on the dayLike, yeah, the music scene over
there is well and truly ready,you know, where I think I'll go

(25:31):
over there instead of waitingfor it to get better here.
I can always come home, youknow, like this is home for me.
So I might as well go while I'myoung.
I don't have a girlfriend orkids or a house loan or
anything, you know.
I live out of my cars most ofthe time when I'm singing on the
road.

SPEAKER_01 (25:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you have an area that youhave a preference for?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
I love Texas.
I do love Texas, but Texas orOklahoma for me probably would
be a little bit more where Iwant to be.
I'm pretty happy anywhere.
I've been to most places inTexas.
I haven't really seen Houston orSan Antonio, but I've been to

(26:17):
Austin.
I've been to Dallas.
I've been to Amarillo.
I haven't been to El Paso.
I want to go to El Paso.
I reckon it's a lot like aQueensland out back out there um
but like anywhere around Texasor Oklahoma would be sort of
where I want to set myself upand I do realize it'd be like

(26:38):
going back to the start likestarting over like like I did in
Australia like you know you'llbe supporting people until you
can do it big time and I'mwilling willing to do that
living out of cars again likeI'm sort of used to that might
be different in the statesbecause everyone's got guns I
might be trying to hide a littlebit more we don't have guns like

(26:59):
he's doing

SPEAKER_01 (27:01):
yeah that's that's true but that was the one like
like I'm out here I like I don'tknow how well you know our
geography.
I'm out here in Delaware andit's in Northeast.
Yeah.
And I was really surprised howmany people weren't open
carrying in Texas because Ithought it would be a lot more

(27:24):
because certain parts of mystate, it's weird if you don't
have something on you.
They're like, hey, where are youfrom?
I'm like, oh, I forgot.
I forgot my uniform.

SPEAKER_00 (27:35):
Yeah.
It's just weird.
It's crazy in Australia, if youwere walking around with a gun
in public, there'd be SWAT teamscalled to you.
They wouldn't fuck around withthat.
There'd be SWAT teams on yourass within five minutes.
And even then, the only guns youcan buy in Australia, you've got

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to have a license for them and areason to have a gun.
You can't just say, for myprotection.
It's like, I own livestock and Ineed it for pest control.
I go to gun clubs and I want toshoot targets every Sunday.
You've got to give good reason,let alone the background checks.

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You only get a bolt action.
No semi-automatics, nothing.
It's just bolt action guns.

SPEAKER_01 (28:26):
I've been here my whole life.
I've never ran into a problem.
You should be fine.
You'll be the next...
The next big name in music fromAustralia, because I'm trying to
think.

SPEAKER_00 (28:42):
Keith Urban's over there.

SPEAKER_01 (28:45):
He is Australian, isn't he?

SPEAKER_00 (28:47):
Yeah.
I sometimes think he sort ofdoesn't tell everyone that, but
I know deep down he's still gothis Aussie roots, but I don't
think he has as much slang inhis voice as I do.
Sometimes in Texas, people juststare at me when I'm talking to
them, and they're like, what'dyou say?
Like, Like I remember when I didthe co-headline tour with the

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Lowdown Drifters and Australianstalk real fast.
Like we just spit a heap ofwords out real quick.
That's a part of the slang.
Like no space bar, justda-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah.
And I was talking to like BigJohn and I'm telling him this
stuff and he goes, huh, what?
I tell him again and he's like,slow down.

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Yeah.
And like...
I remember we went to a, I thinkit was an In-N-Out burger, and
me and my band are ordering, andthey couldn't understand us.
And I was like, boys, just comehere real quick.
And I told them, talk slow likethis, and they will understand.

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And they go, oh, righto, yeah,too easy.
And they go over there, I wouldlike a number one.

SPEAKER_01 (30:04):
Do you understand the words that are coming out of
my mouth.

SPEAKER_00 (30:08):
Yeah.
We'd finally get the food.
They'd probably think we weredicks, but we're like, it's the
only way they could understandus.

SPEAKER_01 (30:16):
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah, like, like I said, I lovethe slang.
Like, oh, there's a lot ofpeople out there.
Yeah, it's chockers.
Yeah, it's chockers.

SPEAKER_00 (30:31):
Fuck it.
Like, even Australia, like, ifyou start a sentence where I'm
from, most people start with aswear word.
They go, fucking how you going,mate?
Or like, fuck me dead, that'sfucked.
The word fuck is just used everyday by nearly everyone.

(30:52):
I remember some of my schoolteachers used to say fuck in
class.
It was like, yeah, it's fine.
It's fine.
Probably got them in troublethen, but I'm out of school.
But like, yeah, It's Australianslang, especially going over
there, like one of your bigno-no words that you can't say,

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the C word, and we drop thatevery day.
Every day.
I'll call my best friend the Cword.
That's a normal thing.
I'll be like, what's going on?
That's how we greet each other.
Yeah.
my sister's called me the C wordmore times than I can count.

SPEAKER_01 (31:36):
That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 (31:37):
Yeah.
That's like normal.

SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
It's like so alien to us.
That's, that's like, you know,if, if you're at a bar and
you're like, Hey, if you want tofight a female, whoop.

SPEAKER_00 (31:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
There's a sign.
Really drive the point home.

SPEAKER_00 (31:58):
There's no like word in Australia that can really
offend someone.
like a swear word like that.
But if you call someone champ orit's not champ, like, yeah, good
on you champ.
And you're like, what'd you callme?
Like,

SPEAKER_01 (32:13):
I didn't know that.
I'm letting that one down.

SPEAKER_00 (32:16):
Do not call anyone in Australia champ.
Cause that's like, that'sfighting words.
That's like, yeah, you're tryingto stir him up.
You're trying to piss him off soyou can go outside and throw
fists like champ or in, in somecontext.
Like if you go, yeah, thankslegend, like bit sarcastic,
They're like, fuck you.
Like, you know, like, Oh, Iremember, I remember some fan at

(32:41):
Tulsa, like send me, send medown the front aisle sign and
stuff.
And he's like, thanks champ.
And I remember just like, Oh,but then I remember this is
America.
Like,

SPEAKER_01 (32:52):
yeah.
The cultural divide.

SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
Yeah.
I was, I was, I was about toblast on this dude.
Like I was about to, I was aboutto punch the shit out of him,
but I was like, hang on.
this is America like thatdoesn't translate well and I was
like all good bro like yeah justpassed him his thing back and
just kept walking I was like Igot back on the tour bus and I
was like told the boys I waslike some dude in there called

(33:17):
me champ and my bass player goesdid you knock him out and I was
like nah because like it's adifferent I think it's a
different meaning over here andhe's like I would have knocked
him out

SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
that's funny oh man that would have been a pretty
funny tabloid you

SPEAKER_00 (33:39):
know it's I've had some pretty wild news stories
about me in Australian countrymusic like We've got a news
source called Country Town andthey post about a lot of country
music news and they'll be like,oh, this person's releasing this
single and this person's goingto this festival, their
headline, and then down belowit'll be like, Wade Forster has

(34:02):
pneumonia after rodeo injury.
Stuff like that.
The last funny one I had waslike, this person's headline and
that, this person's releasingthis single, Wade Forster fall
off stage like stuff like thatbecause my shows are pretty
lively and yeah I'm I'd rathergo down swinging and doing

(34:26):
everything I can.
So them funny headlines to me,that's like, yeah, I'm working
for it.

SPEAKER_01 (34:30):
Yeah.
So you're very lively on stage?

SPEAKER_00 (34:33):
Oh, yeah.
Like, the worst part is if yougive me a big enough stage, I'll
run around all night.
Like, my band are used to itnow.
They're like, okay, get out ofthe way.
Wade's running again.
But, yeah, if it's a smallstage, even then, like, I've
tried to– It's pretty good likethat.

(35:00):
Yeah.
I don't think I'd be able to dothat in America.

(35:22):
I might get swarmed.

SPEAKER_01 (35:23):
Ah, you never know.
It's weird.
It's like some bands are knownfor some stuff and some bands
are known, you know, don't dothat kind of stuff.
I guess it's just dependent onwhat kind of fans you have.

SPEAKER_00 (35:42):
Yeah, true.
Like I did have a, I did wantto, I like a lot of drinks over
there and drinking in Australiais like pretty normal.
Our drinking culture, like Iwould say I would love to see
just– five fresh out of school18-year-old blokes go up against

(36:03):
the whole frat house in America.
Let's say they start Fridaymorning.
By Sunday night, them Aussiesare like, God, these bastards
are in bed.
What's going on?
Because I remember being out ofschool and you'd go to, say, I'd
done two months work nonstop ata cattle station.

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I'm like, I'm going toTownsville for the week.
I'd turn the phone off.
I'd go rogue.
We'd be drinking every day,every night, and drink until you
nearly got no money.
You're like, all right, I've gotenough money to get me home.
I'm going back to work.

SPEAKER_01 (36:38):
That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 (36:40):
And the American drinks that I liked over there,
Dos Equis and Twisted Tea.

SPEAKER_01 (36:46):
Dos Equis is pretty good.
Twisted Tea, yeah, that cansneak up on you.

SPEAKER_00 (36:51):
Oh, yeah, it's snuck up on me a few times in Texas.

SPEAKER_01 (36:56):
Yeah, it goes down so smooth.
And in Queensland, it's Bundy?

SPEAKER_00 (37:03):
Yeah, Bundy, Bundy Bear.
Yeah, okay.
It's 50-50 how people react toBundy.
Thunderburger rum, it's eitherfighting juice, like it just
makes them want to fight.

UNKNOWN (37:16):
LAUGHTER

SPEAKER_00 (37:17):
Or the other side of it, and I'm happy I'm on this
side of it.
When I have like 20 or 30bundies, I'm looking at my best
friend.
I'm like, man, you're my bestfriend.
I love you.
I'd fucking do anything for you.
There's two sides of it, and youlearn pretty quick which side of
it you're on.

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I know for a fact that one of mymates, he cannot drink it.
He'll have two, and he's like,all right, wait, you and me out
front and I was like we're bestfriends and he's like don't care
He'd be like, you, you, you leftthe lights on in the kitchen or
something.
Now we've got to fight because Ihad one run.

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You know, it's sort of likethat.

SPEAKER_01 (38:03):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a friend like that.
And it's like, come on, really?
You know, and then, and youknow, you, you go out, you fight
in the bar, you get thrown out.
And like over here, I can't, thebouncers would just be like, you
guys are driving home together.
I'm like, yeah, we're bestfriends.

SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (38:21):
Yeah.
You guys were just punching eachother in the face.
It's like, yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (38:25):
I've seen some pretty cool, like, see, we don't
call them bars in Australia.
They're called pubs.
Like, I don't know if you'veheard that slang.
So I had a few pubs, like, outof school after I left school
and, like, going out with mymates.
I've seen boxing on TV.
I've seen UFC.
And I was like, dude, some ofthese blokes I hang around, they

(38:47):
could hold up in a ring.
Like, there's one mate and Godforbid he ever gets in another
fight.
But, like, he dead set.
I reckon he could make, like, aUFC roster.
I've seen him kick a dude in theshin, break his shin.
I'm like, oh, God, we've got toget you out of here.
And he's like, no, I've got towait for his friend to come out.

(39:09):
And I was like, no, you'vealready done enough.
Like, let's go.
You've got to force him into thecar.
Like, let's go before the copsget in.
That's

SPEAKER_01 (39:18):
funny.

SPEAKER_00 (39:18):
But, like, yeah, the drinking culture is so different
and, like– I've learnt thatpretty quick in America.
When I was at the Kojo thing, Ihad a hotel room near the rodeo
arena and they'd all go back totheir trailers and have dinner
and I'm like, I had a few beersat the bar, I'm going to have a
few in the motel room.

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There was a 7-Eleven across theroad and I was like, I'm out of
cigarettes and went across thereand I didn't know you could buy
alcohol in gas stations.
That's so different inAustralia.
Like you've got to go to thisspecific place to buy alcohol in
Australia, like a bottler.

SPEAKER_01 (39:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
It's

SPEAKER_01 (39:58):
different.
It's different between everystate.
It's really weird.
Yeah.
Uh, here, here it's, it's, it'snot sold in gas stations.
It's, it's sold at, you know,the bottle is over here.
It'd be the liquor store.
But if you go to PA, it's astate store, it's ran by the
state and you, you have to like,I don't know if they've laxed on

(40:18):
it, but sometimes like you haveto buy like, you know, 12 beers
and you're like, you have towalk that back to your car and
walk back to buy more.
It's like the, There's somany...

SPEAKER_00 (40:28):
Oh, there's like a limit?

SPEAKER_01 (40:29):
Yeah.
A lot of them are called likeblue lulls because a lot of the
lulls around here, they're fromlike the Quakers and all those
old religious type things.
It's just...
In some places, like you said,it's at the...
The Servo.
At the gas station.

SPEAKER_00 (40:46):
At the

SPEAKER_01 (40:46):
Servo.
Yeah.
And even I get excited because,you know, it's nice.
It's nice.
There's no one-stop shopping.

SPEAKER_00 (40:54):
Yes.
I think the first thing mostAustralian cowboys do when they
get to America is they go toeither a Walmart or a gas
station and they buy like twofull rolls of Copenhagen and
like a carton of MichelobUltras.
I think that's the most standardAustralian thing to do when they

(41:15):
get to America.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (41:18):
That's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
The first time everyone goes over, they try
Coors Light.
And Coors, compared toAustralian beer, I reckon
Australian beer is still better.
But yeah, Coors and Michelob areprobably the closest thing to an
Australian beer.
We don't drink Fosters.
Everyone thinks we drinkFosters.

SPEAKER_01 (41:39):
I know.
I was going to say that.
That's like a typical American.
We call them oil cans.
They're the big, gigantic cansof Fosters.
Because, you know, for years,Foster's Australian for beer,
you know?

SPEAKER_00 (41:52):
Yeah.
And I reckon that's half thereason why people get my last
name wrong because they're like,oh, Foster's like the beer.
I'm like, no, there's an Rthere.
It's Forster.
But every time I've been overthere, they're like, oh, do you
want a Foster's?
I was like, no.

UNKNOWN (42:11):
Fuck.

SPEAKER_00 (42:12):
It's like, why do I want that shit?
We've got it in Australia.
I don't think I've ever seen anactual Australian drink it.
Right.
I reckon it's probably good forbeer battering fish and that's
it.

SPEAKER_01 (42:27):
That's funny.
Man, the power of marketing.
That's like we have Outback'sout here.

SPEAKER_00 (42:35):
Yeah, we don't have Outback Steakhouse.
Like that's a rare thing.
I think I've seen one inAustralia and it's like I don't
even think it's a part of thechain.
I think it's just like, oh, thisis like Outback Steakhouse.
And, yeah, like one of theLowdown Drifters band members,
they were like, oh, have youever had of Bloomin' Onion and
I'm like, what's that?

(42:55):
And they're like, it'sAustralian.
I'm like, no, it's not.
I was like, that's American.

SPEAKER_01 (43:03):
Oh, it is funny.
Because like, and another thing,a lot of people would probably
base everything they know aboutAustralia on Crocodile Dundee.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:16):
Crocodile Dundee, like the movie was actually
filmed like 150 k's away from myhouse, like not far at all.
And in Australian terms, that'svery close.
I noticed that too in America.
You've got so many towns inbetween places where from my
cattle station to my house is anhour drive.

SPEAKER_01 (43:40):
That's nuts.

SPEAKER_00 (43:42):
Cattle station to my hometown, sorry, is an hour
drive.
And then the next town over istwo hours, you know.
You'll go out of phone servicefor like, you know, a whole hour
if you need to.
Like there's no little towns inbetween.
Like you've got to fuel up everytime you get to a town because

(44:02):
you might run out of fuel and noone will be passing in a long
time unless you're right nearthe cities, you know.
But where I am, it's like– Idon't know how to explain it.
It's like...
Compared to America, I haven'tbeen anywhere too rural to
compare it to.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 (44:19):
you might run out of gas on your own property.

SPEAKER_00 (44:22):
Yeah, exactly.
I've done that.
Trust me, it's not fun.
Like sat there in a car for likefive hours waiting for dad to
go, oh, why doesn't he come backyet?
I might go check on him.
And he'd find me there shirt offjust sweating in this car.
I've converted what it gets toin Fahrenheit for years because

(44:42):
he doesn't understand Celsius alot of the time.
It gets to like 130 out of home.
And like, I remember oneChristmas and the power went off
and like being 130, no air con,you know, on Christmas day, it
wasn't fun.
But that's why Australiandrinking culture is so good

(45:03):
because we find a way toentertain it.
Yeah.
Isn't the coffee culture is bigdown

SPEAKER_02 (45:10):
there?

SPEAKER_00 (45:11):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Coffee in America I didn'tbelieve it until I had it I
remember I had it at a motel andit was just in a jug and I'm
like this is shit it's alreadypre-made and you put it in and I
was like this is just burntwater what the fuck is this and
I remember like coming home andhaving a proper coffee like

(45:35):
there's people's whole jobs isto make like special coffees and
stuff like that like god you canhave a cappuccino mocha
chocolate I'm not a big coffeedrinker, but in winter and a
good coffee from a proper cafe,nothing beats it.

UNKNOWN (45:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (45:54):
I don't know.
I haven't tried Starbucks inAmerica.
It could be like that atStarbucks, but I'll try this
time.
I reckon I'll make my tourmanager drive me past a
Starbucks.

SPEAKER_01 (46:05):
Yeah.
What part of American culture doyou have a favorite part when
you went over and you're like, Ireally like this?
Because our perception is sowrong of so many different
places.

SPEAKER_00 (46:23):
I think the big thing that has Australians are
attracted to when they go toAmerica is obviously the guns
and stuff.
For me, I'm a massive sportsguy.
For me, I want to go see acollege football game.
I want to be at a Virginia Techhome game or a Texas A&M home

(46:47):
game and just feel theatmosphere.
I've never been to an Americanfootball game, but that should
just gives me so much.
Like, I get rushed withadrenaline when they're all just
screaming.
They're diehard fans.
And, like...
I've got my favorite team innearly every sport.
College, I haven't quite workedout yet because I've worn a

(47:08):
Texas A&M championship ring.
One of my friends has one overin the States, and he let me
wear his championship ring.
I don't know if it was achampionship ring or a
graduation ring.
I was like, wow, look at thesize of this thing.
It was sticking off my hand likethat.
I'm like, all right, I've got toget into this college football.
But NFL, NBA, I watch thatpretty religiously.

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I haven't got into ice hockey.
That's a bit foreign for me.
It just looks like boxing onice.
I don't understand it.
If you punch someone in anAustralian sport, you get sent
off.
It's got a bit soft inAustralia, but back in the day,
there was this whole culture inrugby and it was called the

(47:55):
biff.
The biff in Australia isfighting.
If you're having a biff, you'rehaving a fight.

UNKNOWN (48:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:02):
Like if two players were just fighting it out and
they'd say, oh, hey, Bedford,bring back the Biff, hell yeah.
Punch the shit out of him, youknow.
There'd be grown men to kidslike, yeah, hit him, like on TV.
And like, yeah, you get ejectedin Australian sports for

(48:23):
fighting nowadays, but we watchIce Hockey and we're like, God.
I miss that.
But it's like, yeah, it's justboxing on ice.
I don't understand the rules,nothing.
Every time I watch it, I'm like,oh, yeah, they're throwing the
gloves off.
Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 (48:36):
Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 (48:38):
What do you mean

SPEAKER_01 (48:39):
they're offsides?

SPEAKER_00 (48:40):
Yeah, I didn't understand that.
Like in my eyes, they shouldjust be able to like pass the
disc or whatever it is up theice and just bang, bang it in
the net.
I don't understand offsides.
It's like soccer.
And everyone thinks like all usEuropean nations in the soccer.
Not soccer.

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It's all rugby or cricket.

SPEAKER_01 (49:03):
I was going to say cricket is probably bigger

SPEAKER_00 (49:06):
over there.
Cricket's like our baseball.
For yous, it would be so boringto watch, but for us, it's our
summer sport.
The day after Christmas, theyhave a big five-day cricket
match and I reckon 80% ofAustralian dads and men just sit

(49:29):
there with a beer and just sitthere all day and just watch
from 8 o'clock in the morning to6 in the afternoon.
They won't even get up, look atanything else.
They just watch the TV forhours.
And I've tried to get intobaseball.
I think I've found my favoriteteam.
I sort of just go off a fewgames, watch a few games, but I

(49:50):
think I like the Padres.

UNKNOWN (49:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (49:53):
Is that a baseball team?
I think I'm right.
I'm

SPEAKER_01 (49:57):
pretty sure you're at the, I don't, I, I'll play,
I'll play any sport, but Ican't, I'm not a big TV watch.
And like, you know, there's,it's not like like i agree like
college they're playing likethey're they're not stepping out
of bounds when they got a coupleyards to go they're they're

(50:17):
gonna get that first down youknow they're not worried about
you know getting getting paidand contracts and all that like
they're playing for for cloutfor you know we're gonna

SPEAKER_00 (50:28):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (50:29):
you know

SPEAKER_00 (50:30):
you gotta beat the shit out of that motherfuckers

SPEAKER_01 (50:31):
like yeah there you go yeah like i i do like if i if
i do watch anything like uh I'llgo to Penn State.
And Penn State, it's a giant–100,000 people can fit in that
stadium.
And

SPEAKER_00 (50:46):
that I will go.
I've got college football on myXbox, and I've played them in my
career mode.
And it's like that song.
Oh, oh, oh.
And I just like– I remember likeI was like, God, like their
chants are pretty like cool, butlike– They try to say, oh, we've

(51:06):
got the best culture.
I went to England when I wasplaying rugby at school and the
culture there for their sports,like you'll be– say you do
something wrong, like there'llbe grown men calling kids like,
wanker, like, you know, like,piss off you, wanker, like stuff

(51:27):
like that.
Like the culture is so differentwhere sports over there is like,
yeah, I ride and die for myteam.
We are, you know, we are Texasand all that and it's like–
teams in European nations arelike, you know, fuck Parramatta,
you know?
Bunch of dogs, like, stuff likethat.

SPEAKER_01 (51:45):
Yeah, like over here we call them hooligans.

SPEAKER_00 (51:49):
Yeah, we don't really have hooligans.
They're more or less just thugs.

SPEAKER_01 (51:53):
Thugs?

SPEAKER_00 (51:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (51:55):
Yeah, that's a term we use too.
That's funny.
But yeah, it's cool.
Like Penn State, they do likewhiteout games.
Everybody wears white.
It's just a...
It's 100,000

SPEAKER_00 (52:06):
people wearing white.

SPEAKER_01 (52:08):
It's incredible.
it's like you sit down and it'sjust, man.
Cause like, I'm not a big fan ofcrowds.
So like a couple of like, it waslike 15 minutes of sheer terror,
you know?

SPEAKER_00 (52:19):
Cause

SPEAKER_01 (52:20):
if someone was to crack off, man, like that's a
lot of

SPEAKER_00 (52:23):
people.
You got nowhere to go.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (52:26):
Yeah.
And nobody's stopping that manypeople.
If they, if they all, you know,somebody had enough charisma to
round them up, to all have onetask that they're there,
wherever they go, They are thelaw.
Yeah.
But it is, it is cool, man,because like, even as the fans,

(52:48):
you didn't, you didn't go thereto see your team lose.
And God forbid you see somebodyelse wearing that other Jersey,
even if you have no affiliationwith it, it's just an
environment where, you know,we're right.
You're wrong.
And their side is we're right.
You're wrong.
So it's this, there's, there'sthis hardly any middle ground

(53:09):
I've, I've always seen with,going to like American sports
events.
Cause that's why I don't go.
Cause it's crazy.
Cause a lot of the Texas guyswill come up here and God
forbid, cause Philadelphia andDallas, they, they just, they
have a thing.
I don't know anything about itthat, you know, and the dudes

(53:30):
from Dallas, he's wearing aDallas Cowboys and they'll sing
the song, the chant.
And it's just like, it getslike, dude, I'm like, well,
life's on the line saying this,you know, fans are crazy, but
it's like, I, man, I did like, Iwish I could roll my eyes
harder.
Just like, come on, man.

(53:50):
Like, dude, like it's not gameday.
We're, we're watching, you know,we're watching Texas country.
Yeah.
Which, Which I love, like, Ilove how inclusive it is.
Cause like you definitely couldsay, Hey, I'm, I'm Wade from
Australia and I do Texas countrybecause they value like

(54:12):
authenticity and it's real.
You can, and when you go to thecredits and it says composer,
there's one name on pretty muchall your songs.
It is your name, which incountry, it is your name.
That means a lot, a lot, a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (54:33):
I never really liked writing with other people for a
long time.
And a lot of my songs I stillwould rather write on myself.
But, like, you know, sometimesyou make a good story or tell a
good story to, you know, one ofyour friends and they're like,
we should write about that.
And I'm like, sure, you know.
But if we do a really badversion of it, I'm just going to

(54:53):
do my version of it, you know.
Like I reckon I've only everdone three.
co-writes every other song I'vewrote myself.
And, like, this new album thatwe announced today is, like,
it's got 22 songs on it.
Oh, wow.
Like, I've been sitting on someof these songs since I released

(55:14):
the first album.
Like, I got home from recordingthe first album and I think a
couple of days later I wroteanother song.
Like, yeah, oh, yeah, I wroteOff The Drugs, like, as I got
back from recording thebeginning.
Uh-uh.
I have so many stories fromrodeo and playing rugby in

(55:36):
school and even doing this musicthing and incorporating all
those things together.
I've lived a pretty cool life at2026.
To be able to tell some of thesestories and people resonate with
them, that's the best job ever.
Especially, I think it is alittle token to a lot of

(55:58):
Americans because when I wasreleasing these songs, I wasn't
talking on TikTok, like doingvideos like this or anything.
And it wasn't until I won theToyota StarMaker contest in
Australia, which is like thecountry music version of, I
don't know, like American Idolor something like that.
And I won that last year and avideo of me on TikTok talking

(56:22):
went viral online and all thecomments are like, he's
Australian?

UNKNOWN (56:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (56:29):
They're like, I thought he was from Texas.
And then there was like a wholecomment thread, like 20 comments
long, and I read it, and it wasfunny.
And they're like, I thought hewas from Montana because you
don't see him much.
Like, I thought he was up inMontana somewhere.
And I'm like, I haven't evenbeen to these places.
Like, you know, I'm not puttingthe accent on it.
It's like I grew up listening tothat type of country music.

(56:50):
So for me, that was just how Inormally sang.
So, yeah.
And, I mean, a few people inAustralia don't like how I sing
with a bit of an Americanaccent, but that's how I learnt
to sing.
I learnt singing Americancountry songs.
I grew up listening to Americancountry songs, and that's what
I'll be.
I don't think I fit in theAustralian country music scene

(57:13):
at all, to be honest.
I think I'm like a wholedifferent thing.
Australian country music isstill, in my eyes, very bro
country.
There is a lot of goodstorytellers in Australian
country music, and they are verygood, but the majority of it is
very bro country, very Nashvillecountry, which obviously isn't

(57:36):
everyone's cup of tea, butthere's only a few of us doing
that country rock or Texascountry style, and it's like...
I think it'll come around sooneror later that it'll come a bit
more popular.
But until then, I think I'mprobably going to go over there

(57:57):
to the land of Texas and rodeoand sing until I

SPEAKER_01 (58:01):
can't.
If that's the Australian scene,oh, yeah, you definitely need to
come over here.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (58:11):
Yeah, and like this tour is going to be fun because
I'm going to see some placesthat I would never have got to
see.
And the people we got on thetour with, it's like, God,
they're all cool.
Like Shelby Stone, I rememberwhen you were doing your podcast
with Shelby and I woke up and Iwas outside having a cigarette

(58:33):
and the coffee was cold in thewindow and I'm scrolling TikTok
and I see it and I textedShelby.
I was like, I'm watching you,motherfucker.
She's awesome.
First time I met her, I think wewere in Kansas City, Missouri,
and I pissed the crowd off thatnight because I said, hello,

(58:54):
Kansas, not knowing that KansasCity was in Missouri, not in
Kansas.
In an Australian's head, that'slike, that's stupid.
Yeah.
Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (59:09):
I think you have a very valuable Solid point.

SPEAKER_00 (59:13):
Yeah.
And I got off stage becauseShelby was with Dalton Domino,
who's, God, one of the coolestdudes I ever met.
And we get off stage and thelow-down drifters are up there
playing.
And I remember me and Shelby arebackstage and we're just
chatting.
And I'm like, you know, oh,radio.

(59:33):
And she's like, oh, my dad usedto radio.
And I was like, oh, what didyour dad do?
And she was like, he was a PRCAbullfighter.
And I was like, oh, he's a toughmotherfucker.
fucker holy shit and like me andShelby just got along from the
jump like and when I said I'mdoing this tour she's like if
you need anyone let me know andthe minute they come around oh
you need some openers I'm likecall Shelby Stone up she's

(59:56):
awesome so she's doing a fewshows with us we got Cade
Hoffman who's just like me justold cowboy type you know Cade
messaged me the other day he'slike hey man would I be able to
jump in the tour bus with youbecause my car I just got in the
car after that my car's totaledand I'm like oh yeah dude for

(01:00:18):
sure and he's like I'll pay forfuel all that and I was like I
don't need you to do all thatcan you just drive because
Australians driving in Americais like yeah it's so different
because we're left side of theroad and you're the right side
and I've done it don't get mewrong I didn't find too much
trouble but the one thing that Istruggle with is the four way

(01:00:40):
stop intersection

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:41):
Yeah.
And it's like a courtesy thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:44):
But then some people aren't courteous and they're
just, nah, fuck.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I don't know ifI'm in the wrong.
Like, it's so bad.
But, yeah, we got Shelby andKate Offman, Travis Roberts,
who's an amazing songwriter.
Dude just released an album andit's unreal.

UNKNOWN (01:01:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:08):
And in Australia, we've got Tori Forsyth, who I
think you'd like a lot of hermusic.
The best way to explain it forme is she's Lana Del Rey went
country but the right way, notjust Lana Del Rey doing a
country song.
No, like...
This girl, between Tori Forsythand Shelby Stone, those are the

(01:01:30):
two most frightening women I'veever laid eyes on.
Shelby scared the shit out of mea little bit.
She was sort of big-dogging me abit.
But she's beautiful and elegantand all that.
And same with Tori.
Tori was a bit like that aswell.
The first time I ever met Tori,I thought she hated me.
We were at this music festivalin outback Queensland, closer to

(01:01:53):
home than it is for them.
I was like, hey, I'm Wade.
Nice to meet you.
And she's like, Tori.
And I'm like, did I piss her offsomehow?
And no, apparently that's justhow she is.
She's actually really nice.
And I was like, oh, I tell herevery time.
I'm like, you scared the shitout of me.
And she's like, I know.

(01:02:14):
Like she's proud of it.
But yeah, like this tour isgoing to open up some doors for
us and we're just keen to getout there and, God, I wish the
album was going out the sametime as the tour, but that was
sort of my fault.
I didn't have everything ready.

(01:02:34):
But still, we're going to play alot of unreleased music on this
tour and I hope people reallyenjoy it because it was a lot of
fun making that album.
We smashed out those 22 songs ina week.
We recorded that in a week inAustralia, Monday to Friday.

UNKNOWN (01:02:55):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:55):
That's incredible.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:58):
And the best thing was, like, I recorded that
album.
Like, my voice was buggered, andthat Saturday I had to pick the
boys up from the airport, and wewent and headlined a rodeo that
next day.
Actually, we did two gigs thatweekend.
We went to Oberon Rodeo and thendrove, I think, four hours south
of there and then played anotherfestival.

(01:03:19):
Like, pretty big week.
Yeah.
But, like, shit, in Australiancountry music, like, there's a
lot of people that are doing it,but they also got a job and
they're, I don't know, it's likethey're not backing themselves,
you know.
Obviously, they're not going tomake money straight away, but
you need to give it your all.

(01:03:40):
Like, when I first got into it,I quit working for Dad.
I told Dad I quit and, you know,I'm doing, I want to do this
music thing.
And, geez, I was living oncrumbs and, you know.
and to get out the other sideand do it like this.
And young people ask me, like,oh, how do I get into it?
And I'm like, you've got to quityour job and live tough.
Yeah.

(01:04:01):
Because that's how– you know,sometimes you get lucky and you
just have a breakout song andyou take off from there.
But I grew up in the outback, soI was doing all my gigs in the
outback where the music scene isnot existing at all.
Like you're playing in a pub.

(01:04:21):
And you could have your speakersat 10 and they're talking over
that.
Like, you know, you're justplaying.
You're not playing for tips oranything like that.
You know, you'll rock up thereand the public and the bar
owner, he'll give you like$500for the day.
And in Australia, like$500,that's like a tank of fuel, a

(01:04:45):
packet of cigarettes, and yourgroceries for the next week.
That doesn't even include rent,you know, because cigarette
prices over here are prettyhigh.
It freaks a lot of Americansout.
So like a packet of cigarettesin America is like$2,$3 for a
packet of 20.
Australia in a packet of 20 islike$60,$70,$80.

(01:05:08):
Guess what I

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:08):
wouldn't do.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:10):
Well, I still do it.
But when I go to America, I'mworse for it because I'm like,
yep, they're$2.
Buy 10 packs.
But...
The music scene over here, likeI've enjoyed it, but I think it
is time for me to move, like Isaid, and this tour is going to
be a good test to see whatmarkets I'll do well in, you

(01:05:35):
know, what states.
Yeah.
I know Arizona's very pissed offat me because I didn't put a
show in Arizona.
Like my TikTok is like nearly80% of its comments like, yeah,
but he's not coming to Arizona.
I'm like, I'm trying.
You've just got to let me figurethis out.
at first.
Arizona and California andMontana are really pissed off.

(01:05:58):
Oh, and Chicago, weirdly enough.
I didn't know there was countrymusic in Chicago.
All I know about Chicago isDerek Rose and Michael Jordan.
Just basketball.
I'm pretty big basketball.
Of all them sports, it would bebasketball for me.
So that's all I know Chicagofor.
I didn't know there was countrymusic there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:19):
Yeah, I didn't know that either because the first
thing you'd When I thinkChicago, I think Chicago-style
pizza, which is more like alasagna.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:26):
Is that that deep dish?

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:28):
Yeah, I want to try that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:30):
Yeah, and Chicago hot dogs.
Chicago dogs.
They have...
I guess it's just the peppersand whatnot.
I don't know.
I've never been to Chicago, butthat's what I think when I think
Chicago.
I don't know why I would thinkit would have a big...

(01:06:51):
Like blues scene.
I don't know why that comes tomind.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:55):
I don't know.
I always think blues is likeLouisiana.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:59):
Yeah, like Delta.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:01):
Yeah.
Delta,

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:02):
Mississippi, around that area.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:04):
Delta, yeah.
And like Memphis, it's bluestoo, isn't it?
Very blues based.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:12):
Yeah, I've heard that.
I don't think I've ever been toMemphis.
Yeah, Southern Rock isdefinitely its own kind of
thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:20):
But it's...
Getting into like– when I gotinto this music scene and I got
into more like American country,like I'm deep diving and I'd
find these unreal artists.
And I've been following yousince like 2020.
I remember I used to commentbefore any of my songs blew up.
I'm like, please look at mysong.
Please.

(01:07:42):
And I was like, he's notlistening to me.
But he did once and I was like,awesome.
I was on there.
Yes.
But I got into deep diving.
Yeah, you did Fightin' Tears.
You did–

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:54):
that's the only one I've done.
Yeah.
Really?
Cause I, my fight and tears thatI love that song, the structure
of that song.
It's also like one of those onesthat are very bittersweet where
like, if you're just listeningto music, you're going to,
you're going to be smiling anddancing and then you're going to
hear the lyrics and go, Oh myGod.

(01:08:15):
But yeah, I love that.
And I love the arpeggiation ofthat guitar.
It's just the rhythm of it.
It has a cool, I love, that andI think my favorite song of
yours man it's gotta be eitherBlack Sheep or One Night Stand
One

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:32):
Night Stand I had a lot of fun with that song

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:35):
yeah that definitely it screams it's got I would say
oh Red Dirt but of course yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:43):
we got Red Dirt in Australia I mean it just doesn't
mean the same thing

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:50):
make sure you bring it and be like look

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:52):
I ain't Red Dirt no

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:53):
But

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:55):
One Night Stand, that's probably one of the
funniest stories I've ever gotto write about in a song.
So when I was, so I would havebeen 18 or 19, like fresh out of
school and like I'd moved up toMount Isa for that job but all
us young fellas used to drivelike an hour and a half to this

(01:09:18):
other town nearby calledCloncurry and we used to drink
at this old pub run by thislovely old, old couple.
And like they, they own the pubfor years.
Like my mom and dad used todrink in there when they were
like 18, you know, stuff likethat.
And it was called the postoffice hotel.
And all of us young fellas usedto jam in there.

(01:09:39):
And God, we did, we did a heapof stupid shit in there.
Like we, we, we stole a jukeboxfrom there once, like one of
them old CD jukeboxes that plugin the wall.
And we, we put it in there causethere was rooms out the back you
could stay in and we put it inthere and we, We rewired it so
we had three songs and Nancy,the owner, found out.

(01:09:59):
She's like, all right, nowyou've got to work for me.
I can ban you or you could justdo some work for me.
We'll do the work because wewant to be back here next
weekend and stuff like that.
So when I went down there oneweekend, I was a cowboy.
I was a young cowboy inAustralia.
So girls was all I was thinkingabout and I slept with this girl

(01:10:24):
on a Friday night, and she wasthe polar opposite to me.
I was a cowboy.
She was like a hippie.
And then I slept with her friendthe next night, and I thought,
oh, yeah, I'm cool as.
That was cool as.
And didn't think of anyrepercussions because I was so
young.
And then on the Sunday night, Iwas just having a few beers

(01:10:48):
there before I had to go back towork Monday, and And I'm sitting
outside talking to a friend, andthe next minute I feel bang on
the back of my head.
And the girl from the Fridaynight had actually smashed a
glass bottle over my head.
Yeah, and I never talked to themagain.

(01:11:08):
I was like, all right, learnedmy lesson there.
And then like years went by, andI was writing songs, and I was
like, I need to write a songabout that.
That's funny.
I was just in a car, and I waslike– Because I was like talking
to one of my friends on thephone and he was like, oh, I
remember that time and hebrought it up and I was like,
yeah, that only ended up being aone-night stand.

(01:11:31):
And then he goes, yeah,one-night stand, that's all you
wanted, right?
And I was like, one-night stand,that's all I'll be.
And that's how that line, Iremember like writing the line
down on a receipt and I reckonI've still got the receipt in
the car.
My car is full of receipts.
And I got home and like mum anddad are like, oh, hey.

(01:11:51):
wait, how are you going?
Like trying to, I haven't seenme in a couple of weeks.
I was like, good, good.
I've got to go.
Cause I want to go write thissong.
I've got an idea.
And I wrote that song thatafternoon and went back, showed
my mom and she's like, shedidn't really like it.
Cause she's like, it's a bitgraphic, like talking about one
night stands.
I'm like, yeah, but the peoplewill like it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:12):
And then when I went down to record it, um, The band
that were in there, I've usedthem for everything, like
Fighting Tears a lot.
And they were like, oh, so youwant acoustic on this?
I was like, no, no acoustic.
And they were like, so what doyou want?
I was like, I looked in thestudio and they had a Fender

(01:12:34):
double humbucker set up there.
And I'm like, play that.
And I want you to jam openchords.
And he was like, all right.
And at the start, that jackfeedback, I heard that from a
group.
and spoon some like and I waslike alright I want to do that
and I remember like doing it.
That's the only instrument I'veever played in the studio

(01:12:55):
because my guitar skills aren'tup to the stack.
And I'm like, I remember like,all right, hit record.
And I'm like pretending to messthe jack up and like, and then
just hit the open strings forthat start bit.
And I was like, yes, I'vecontributed instrumentally to a
song.
And yeah, that was a fun song torelease.

(01:13:17):
Even the music video, like Ishot the music video in the same
town and even, In the musicvideo where I get glassed in the
music video, like hit with thebottle, is in the exact same
spot it happened.
Like I made sure everything wasin the exact same spot.
We tried to use the same houses,but they'd been sold.

(01:13:39):
But we just had to use some ofmy mate's houses in town.
But yeah, that was a great song.
I had a lot of fun with thatsong.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:48):
Yeah.
It's a jam.
And I guess in Australia, wecall that a ripper?
No, a banger.
A banger?
Yeah, dude, we use that too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:01):
Or tune, like T-U-N-E.
U-N-E, tune.
Like, that's a tune, bud.
But it always sounds like C-H.
Like you'll be driving in a carand someone's playing a song and
you're like, oh, that's a tune.
What's that called?
That's like, yeah.
If I said that in America,they'd be like, you want tuna?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:25):
Oh, man, that's funny.
That's a funny story.
It's the song too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:29):
Yeah.
And like a lot of them songsthat I've wrote are about
something that's happened or,you know, I've heard like the
album that we just announcedthat's coming out today, it's
called Gooseneck Party.
So in Australia, like agooseneck horse trailer that you
take to rodeos and at a rodeo tobe in a gooseneck, Like, you

(01:14:56):
know, cart and horses around.
You've got an esky full of beer,like a cooler.
We call it an esky, like whereyou put all your beers and ice
in.
And, like, after the rodeo'sdone– they never plan these
things, by the way.
You'd just be at the bar and thebar shuts and you go, rodeo,
we're going to Wade's camp,Wade's Gooseneck.

(01:15:16):
And you go there and there'll be– God, 50 to 100 cowboys just
sitting around drinking, doingwhatever for fun.
I've seen some wild things atgooseneck parties.
I've seen fights.
I've actually seen peoplerelationships start and then
they get married a couple ofyears later and I was like, I
was there that night.

(01:15:37):
I've seen we have contests onmotorized scooters and people
riding horses bareback andpeople doing burnouts in cars.
It's so...
It's such a staple in Australianrodeo.
It's like, oh, we're having agooseneck party.
But you'll never be able to planone if you go, oh, yeah, we're
going to have a gooseneck partyat this rodeo.

(01:15:58):
If you plan it, no one rocks up.
It's always just on a randomnight.
You didn't think anything wasgoing to happen and the
gooseneck party happens.
And that's where I've heard alot of these stories from
friends or even some of mystories have been told at
gooseneck parties.
And it's just such a– it's apart of who I was as a young And

(01:16:19):
it's still a part of me now.
Like if I go to a rodeo and I'mat the bar, I know, yeah, all
right, we'll just see who's gotthe most beers at whose camp and
that's whose gooseneck partywe're having.
And like the songs on there areall either true songs or stories
that I've heard around trailers.
There's only one song on therethat I didn't hear in a trailer,

(01:16:41):
but I was at home and I waswatching a Western on Netflix
and I can't remember whatWestern it was.
But I remember I had this weird,vivid dream about it.
And I was in it and all this.
And I wrote a song about it.
And it's called Cody, Wyoming.
I couldn't think of a town coolenough.

(01:17:02):
And I was like, oh, I need tothink of a town.
And then it was the same timethat the 100 Days of Rodeo were
happening at Cody, Wyoming.
So I was like, oh, perfect.
I'll just use that town name forthis story.
And yeah, it's a bit morecultural wall style, that song.
But the rest of it, yeah, it'spretty diverse album.
It goes from country rock tothat nice Brooks and Dunn

(01:17:25):
slowdown.
It goes up and down.
Same at the beginning.
The beginning had them rocksongs and then it had other
types of songs.
It's hard.
I don't really stick to onesound.
I'm like, I'll try a bit ofeverything.
But yeah, this album, I hopepeople resonate with it as much

(01:17:46):
as me and the Australian Cowboyswill because the gooseneck party
is like the holy trinity ofparties in my eyes.
Like you can go to thenightclubs and all that, but you
ain't partied unless you've hada gooseneck party.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:00):
Dude, that's the first time I've ever heard that
phrase.
I love it.
I hope.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:05):
Well, we released a song today too called Gooseneck
Party, so check it out.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:10):
Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:12):
And it explains exactly what a gooseneck party
is.
Like you go to the rodeo, youtravel eight hours to go to this
rodeo one way, and you go thereand you or you buck off, you
know, and you've just got theshits and there's only one thing
that you can think of that'llmake you feel better and it's
just having a gooseneck party.

(01:18:33):
And, like...
It's almost like tailgating, Iwould say, if I could compare it
to something.
It's like tailgating at sportsover there except it's in a
horse trailer and there's nobins.
Everyone just sort of drinkstheir beer, crushes it, leaves
it on the ground next to themand whoever's gooseneck that was

(01:18:55):
at, their whole morning the nextday is like, God, look at all
these beer cans.
They've got to clean up allthese beer cans and there's
cigarette packets everywhereand, you know, The best thing
I've ever found at a gooseneckparty was my mate's hat and it
was just like this brand newcowboy hat and it was just
crushed flat.
It looks like he's got too drunkand laid backwards and just fell

(01:19:18):
on it and then got up to thetoilets and left it.
You know, stuff like that.
And that song that releasedtoday along with the album
announcement, you know, itepitomizes what a real gooseneck
party is.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:32):
That's funny.
So hopefully it catches on likeif you go to a weight show
you're not tailgating yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:40):
we're having a gooseneck party

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:42):
yeah we got somebody's got to roll up
someone's got to roll up with agooseneck

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:46):
someone bring their big exes we gotta don't worry
about putting horses in therejust put coolers use coolers
coolers right like the yeah likewhere you put beer and ice in
that's a cooler yeah because inAustralia it's an esky it's so
foreign for me to say that likecooler I don't even know
Cooler's not a word inAustralian.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:09):
Especially with the weather, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:11):
Yeah, that's all it would be.
It's getting cooler.
That's funny.
But like, yeah, it's a week tothe day today we fly out for
America.
And I think the first thing Iwant when I'm there is probably
Whataburger or In-N-Out.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:31):
Oh, man.
I've always wanted to tryIn-N-Out and Whataburger.
I haven't had either of them.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:39):
I like Whataburger more, but my band, they prefer
In-N-Out.
Yeah.
And it's sort of an ongoingargument between me and my band.
Like, we're like, no, we'regoing to Whataburger.
No, we're going in and out.
And I'm like, well, I can't winbecause it's three on one.
You know, next time we're goingto Whataburger or I'm sacking

(01:21:00):
you.
That's my name on the

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:02):
marquee.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:03):
Yeah.
I have to like stamp my footdown just so I can get some
Whataburger.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:09):
Listen here, champs.
For a while, I Like I, I, Ijust, the first time I saw the
sign, I was like, I, I couldn'ttell the difference between like
Waylon Jennings, uh, the W forhim and the Whataburger.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:26):
it's very similar,

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:27):
right?
Yeah.
It's kind of like, wait aminute.
It can't be a store.
It can't be a store totallydedicated to Waylon Jennings.
Can it?
People rave about wheat.
Like that's the one thing aboutthe U S is you just, some things
you can't get everywhere.
And that like fast, it's, in andout is like, that's a big one

(01:21:48):
for, for us up here in theNortheast.
And, uh, what a burger.
Definitely.
That's, that's definitely very,very foreign to us because I,
I'd never heard what a burgerbefore until, uh, I went down
there and, but yeah, in and outfor some reason, I don't know
how I knew about that.
Probably because they're big inCalifornia.

(01:22:10):
And I had a bunch of friendsthat moved to California and
talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:15):
Yeah.
It's crazy that, like, your fastfood chains are, like, just in
certain spots.
See, in Australia, like, ourbiggest fast food chain is
McDonald's.
Like, we don't have In-N-Out orWhataburger.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:27):
Macca's.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:28):
Yeah, Macca's, yeah.
Yeah.
We have Macca's and then KFC.
That's Dirty Bird.
You call it Dirty Bird.
Yeah, and then we've got BurgerKing, but it's called something
else.
Like, it's the exact samefranchise, so you just call it
Burger King.
We call it Hungry Jack's, andthat's the– Okay.
name of it in Australia but it'sslang is HJ's and like yeah we

(01:22:51):
don't have like Dairy Queen Iwant to try Dairy Queen
apparently that's cool yeah Iremember Cody Johnston made me
try Chick-fil-A and hell yeahChick-fil-A shits on KFC I would

(01:23:11):
eat Chick-fil-A every day if Icould and like you get the
burger and You get the sauce andoh.
Yeah.
Goddamn.
I'm too excited to go to Americanow.
All I'm going to do is eat.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:24):
Yeah.
And a lot of people talk aboutlike a, the portion, the portion
size of, of when they get theirfood and they're like, you, you
guys eat this every day?

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:34):
It's like a liter.
Like I remember holding aWhataburger cup up to my head
and it was the same size.
I was like, holy shit.
Like, it's like I'll piss myselfbefore I finish this thing.

UNKNOWN (01:23:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:45):
It's crazy, the portion size.
I remember at school they madeus watch the Super Size Me
documentary.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:54):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:54):
And the first thing I wanted to do when I first went
to the States, I was like, I'llgo to McDonald's, I'll get this
Super Size.
And they don't have it anymore.
I was like,

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:02):
what?
Yeah, they got rid of it.
I don't think any of the chains–I don't really eat fast food
anymore.
But, yeah, I don't think–there's definitely like medium,
large, but I can't really thinkof anything that's So

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:16):
you're small.
Is there a large?

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:18):
Yeah.
That's

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:19):
the portion size difference.
I got a large in Australia andthen go to America, that's a
small.
I'm like, all right, I'll get asmall.
And people that I'll betraveling with in America,
they'll be like, you only want asmall?
And I'm like, yeah, I want asmall.
I've seen the portion size.

(01:24:41):
I don't think I could finish alarge.
And they're like, all right, butwe ain't pulling over.
over again if you get hungry i'mlike i'm fine i think that's
enough like

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:51):
that's funny yeah It is interesting.
I mean, I've never been toAustralia.
I don't even know.
I definitely probably wanted tohit the coffee scene first.
Because I lived by, it was arestaurant that was owned by an

(01:25:15):
Australian man.
I've eaten kangaroo, chili.
They had all kinds of...
A kangaroo.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:21):
Everyone raves about.
I just was sleeping.
I was on the phone to Sam Cantynot long back, and he's like, I
want to try a kangaroo.
I was like, no, you don't.
He goes, hell yeah, I do.
I was like, I'll take you out.
We can go shoot them.
And he goes, oh, yeah, I'llshoot kangaroos.
Because that's normal inAustralia.

(01:25:43):
And he's like, do we eat themafter?
I was like, no, you just leavethem there.
I don't want to touch

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:47):
them.
Yeah, I was just kind of like,oh.
I

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:51):
remember I was on Instagram and when the Treaty
Oak tour announced in Australiaand Austin Meade commented,
like, bring me back somekangaroo jerky, I was like, all
right, I've got to find somekangaroo jerky for Austin Meade
because I don't know if he'lllike it.
If he likes it, good on himbecause I don't like it.
I've tried it.
It's not great.
The best thing I've ate inAustralia that I don't know if

(01:26:14):
he's ate alligators, but you caneat crocodile in Australia in
certain places.
Yeah.
I've tried crocodile and it was–I liked it, yeah.
Yeah.
But it's exactly– it tastesexactly like what you feed it.
So if it eats birds all day,it's going to taste like
chicken.
But if it's like– if it livesoff fish and stuff like that,

(01:26:35):
it's going to taste like fish.
But it is always the texture offish, you know.
But, yeah, there's a heap ofweird stuff you can eat down
here.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:43):
Yeah, yeah.
We have gator and– I've only hadit in gumbo and stuff.
like that and like like we havelike uh like low country boils
and stuff and like down therelike the gumbo they'll put
anything in gumbo yeah that'sthat's the only

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:03):
it's like uh it's like a soup right

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:06):
kind of yeah it depends some some more runny
some are at more thickerconsistency but yeah yes stuff
like that that's that's like myfavorite like that's seafood
boils all those low countryboils Crawfish and all that.
That's big in the south, but wegot little in New England.

(01:27:29):
The traditional way, they wouldjust do it and dig a hole in the
beach and just cook it on a holein the beach.
I

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:40):
remember eating this dude from Louisiana when I was
hanging out with Cody gave methis duck sausage or something
called Boudin or something likethat.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was real thick Louisianaaccent.
He was like Creole accent.
Creole.

(01:28:01):
Yeah.
It's very hard to

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:01):
understand.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:02):
Yeah, yeah.
And even for me, I was like abit hard to understand him.
Can you talk slower?
Yeah, I remember.
I just remember everything hesaid because the next day was
torture because of how hot thatthing was.
Like I got so sick from itbecause of how hot it was.
But I just remember.
He's like, you like spice?

(01:28:22):
I was like, yeah.
And he's like, make sure I onlyeat a little bit of this.
This is going to burn your assout.
And I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:29):
You're going to hate me tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:30):
Yeah, and he's like, go buy a tub of ice cream at
that 7-Eleven down the blockthere.
And I sure as shit did the nextday because I was burning.
Like all my insides was like, itfelt like I ate chilies all day.
Like it was hot.
It didn't feel hot when I ateit, but yeah.
That's another thing about thismusic thing.
I get to try it.
some cool food that I didn'tthink I would like.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:53):
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's sausage.
Not big in Australia where theycall it a snag.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:58):
Yes.
Snags, snags, snags are prettypopular, but like different
thing altogether too.
Like with that.
Okay.
Like bangers and mash is like,is like sausages and mashed
potatoes with gravy, gravy andonion, like stuff like that.
Like I would, I think, If I madeit big, I'd make a big
restaurant in America somewherejust so you can try proper

(01:29:18):
Australian food, like notOutback Steakhouse.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:26):
Oh, hey, can we get a bloomin' on you?
You can get out.
Man,

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:29):
I wanted to do something like that one day, but
I think for the time being I'vegot to focus on this music thing
and go over there and get it allset up first.
Sorry, the dogs are barking.
I'm at my bass player's house inBrisbane.
In America, like, there's justso many good artists that I want

(01:29:53):
to see as well that probablydon't come to Australia because
they don't think they can.
But a lot of the Americanartists, they don't realize they
could sell a stadium out likethat.
Oh, wow.
Like, you know, like...
Our stadiums hold, you know,tens of thousands, probably
more.
I don't know the numbers.

(01:30:14):
But, yeah, they're big, bigcrowds.
They could sell them out easy.
And, like, I don't think theyrealise the push they've got
down here.
Like...
I want to see bands like L60 and2D Oak come down here a lot
more.
God, some other American artiststhat I'd love to see come down

(01:30:35):
here, like Polterwall would begreat down here.
He'd sell a stadium.
Jesus, like even them, like CatHasty and them, they could sell
out big down here.
I don't think that they– I don'tthink– I don't know if it's like
the analytics of streaming areshowing that, but I definitely

(01:31:01):
think all of them could sell outstadiums down here in a
heartbeat.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:06):
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (01:31:08):
Australian country music scene really loves what
America's doing.
So, like, you know, we're real.
And a lot of the fans, like,there's this big festival called
CMC, and, like, every year theyget some big names on it.
Like, last year they had JohnParty and Cody Johnson and Coe
Wetzel and all that.
And, like, Australians just wentstraight away, sold it out

(01:31:31):
within, like, a couple hours.
Like, that's how quick theysell.
And, like, that's...
another person I want to seelive too is, um, uh, co Wetzel
man.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:40):
Yeah.
I

SPEAKER_00 (01:31:41):
got

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:42):
it.
First time I saw, uh, co Wetzellive, I was standing with cat
hasty.
It was, it was awesome.
She was giving me all thebackground and it was really
cool.
Cause she's like a big fan andit, man, that, that was really
cool.
And that was a, uh, a big, itwas at Texas motor speedway,
which is like a giganticbuilding, which I don't know if

(01:32:03):
they ever seen a speedway.
It's,

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:05):
it's like a, Talladega Nights, right?
Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 (01:32:10):
it's so much bigger than what you think.
Man, it blew me away.
You feel so small.
And at that festival, you werelike on the track.
It blew my mind that everybodywas doing the fake fire, you
know, rolling around.
Please don't let the invisiblefire burn my friend.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32:33):
The amount of times I quote that movie, man.
I remember me and Holly, like mysister, we're always riding
horses at home and we're justwarming these horses up and
we're having like a little race,just pretending like having a
bit of fun.
And Holly's just screamed out,if you ain't first, you're last,
and she hits me with a rope.

(01:32:56):
Stuff like that.
Yeah, we quote it on the dailydown here.
I think Will Ferrell is one ofthe funniest men alive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, can I just run to thetoilet real quick?
I've still got a lot to talkabout.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:10):
You said what?

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:11):
I've still got– I still want to talk about music.
I just– yeah, I just need to runto the toilet.
We get sidetracked with a lot ofcultural stuff.
That's my bad.
I'll be back in one sec.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:21):
Yeah, no problem.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:22):
Back.
Music.
We're back.
Finally, we'll get into it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:26):
the music

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:29):
I mean like I've been watching your stuff for
ages so to be on this podcastman that's like I'm real proud
at the moment like

SPEAKER_01 (01:33:38):
it's cool to have you on because I know like a lot
of people like what you're doingand it's it's really cool to see
especially you know like thegeographical the distance and
it's also nice that you knowpeople Just embrace good music.

(01:33:59):
They don't care where it comesfrom.
As long as it's true andauthentic, it's going to have a
place in the market where thatshines through.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:09):
exactly.
It's really cool what you'redoing.
I think music has no boundaries.
I listen to a wide variety ofmusic.
I'm actually more of a rap guythan anything.
I love rap.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:24):
Really?

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:25):
Yeah.
I like listening.
rap like Kendrick Lamar stufflike that but I've been really
lately I've been deep divinginto a lot of like 2000s rock
like getting back into that sortof stuff because I think that
stuff for me I much preferplaying like the rockier stuff
on stage so like I'm trying toget my head around some more you

(01:34:49):
know textures and stuff with mynew music but yeah it is cool to
see how far music can takesomeone like if you told me at
school that I was going to be amusician I didn't even do music
at school like I didn't playguitar until I was 18 didn't
write a song until I was 20 youknow um This is all– it's all

(01:35:15):
happening real fast and I'mpretty grateful of where I've
got, you know.
If it stopped tomorrow, youknow, I wouldn't be upset, you
know, but, you know, I just wantto see how far I can go with it.
Yeah.
The places it's taken me alreadyis insane, especially as an

(01:35:35):
Australian telling my story– tothe world and americans really
embracing like instead of goingoh he's not real country because
he's not from here you know thatit's not like a uh uh like a
thing where he's like trying toprotect what country is or
anything because other otherpeople listen to country in

(01:35:56):
other parts of the world and thethe american fans that i do have
they're like oh man anaustralian singing about this
stuff you know it's a wholedifferent outlook on on things
you know yeah um Hopefully itopens doors for a lot of other
people from other countries aswell, not only just mine.

(01:36:16):
There might be some new countrysingers coming from New Zealand.
I know there's a lot of countrymusic over there, and I think
England's getting a part of itnow.
Yeah, it's cool to see.
It's really developing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:36:29):
Yeah, it's wild.
In a week, you're coming overhere and touring on a new album.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:38):
It's crazy.
Like I still haven't wrapped myhead around it.
To be playing in the Stateswhere two years ago I was
playing at pubs in Australia forless than 50 people and like,
you know, barely I wouldn't evenmake money on some of them
shows.
Like I'd do it for the exposure.

(01:37:00):
Like there might be like a bigfestival on in town and I'd do
it for the exposure.
I'm losing$300 just gettingthere in fuel money, you know.
Yeah.
The grind and all that was allworth it in my eyes.
Like it's paid off all thenights I've slept in cars or on
a mate's couch.

(01:37:21):
It went hand in hand with rodeoso it wasn't a rude shock to me
like the way I had to live totry and get into this music
scene.

UNKNOWN (01:37:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:37:30):
And especially with all the stories I've lived, like
I can, jeez, I still haven'twrote about half of the good
ones yet, you know.
But this album, like I hopepeople really enjoy some of
these stories because, God, likea lot of these stories put me,

(01:37:51):
you know, in some pretty darkplaces and I'm a big advocate
for mental health and, you know,lost a lot of friends to it.
Yeah.
Making music like this, I feellike it resonates.
That gives them something totalk about.
Music, for me, has always helpedme out of dark places.
So for them to talk about musicas well, even if it's just an

(01:38:14):
odd song on my album, you know,hopefully they can talk about it
with their friend, you know, getsome talking.
A conversation starts withanything about mental health.
So for me to play a part in thatsomehow is more than I could ask
for, you know.
Yeah.
I'm sick of going to funerals.
I've lost too many mates to thatshit.
So,

SPEAKER_01 (01:38:35):
yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
And it is incredible when youfind out that someone will take
your song and it'll bring themto a brighter place out of the
darkness.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38:50):
It's just cool.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38:51):
Well, fighting tears was definitely a big one for me
in that sense.
So like I used to hang aroundthis girl in Mount Isa.
She wasn't from the town.
She was fly in, fly out for themines.
And like we were hanging out andthen we dated for a little bit,
but we never really madeanything public.
We were just sort of enjoyingeach other's company.

(01:39:13):
It wasn't like a one-night standor a friends with benefits
thing.
It was just like, yeah, we werejust enjoying each other's
company and she dabbled with alot of addictions so she battled
with drug use and stuff likethat and I didn't really want to
be around that so I sort of toldher like no if you're going to
keep doing that I'm going toleave this situation and she's

(01:39:36):
like you know sort of got up meabout it and she moved away for
a bit and I went to TAFE like togo learn about my trade and
there was a special out on thenightclubs that night it was
cheap drinks So in Australiait's called Cheap Tuesday or
Cheap Chewy.
And we go out there and we go tothe strip club.

(01:39:59):
It was just on the stretch andhere she is dancing.
It fucking, you know, sort ofbroke me heart a bit because I
was like, God, you've got somuch potential and I care about
you and all this stuff.
And it convinced her to come andmove back and go back into the
mines because it was better thanthat and, you know, stuff like
that.
And she got good and she wentthrough rehab a few times and

(01:40:21):
unfortunately the demons got thebest of her and, yeah, she took
her life.
And not long after that I movedout of that town and moved home
for my mental health because Iwas like, you know, I couldn't
do that to the people that careabout me and stuff like that.
And at the time I was just very,very lost in what had all

(01:40:43):
happened because then COVID hitdirectly after that and, yeah,
So COVID hit and then I lost aheap of my mates in COVID.
I lost some to COVID.
I lost some to car crashes,heart attacks, cancer, you name
it.
I went through a stretch therein 2020 where I think I lost 20

(01:41:04):
or 30 friends.
Wow.
And I couldn't go to any oftheir funerals because of the
COVID laws in Australia andstuff like that.
I wrote my best friend aboutthis indigenous rodeo announcer
called Walter Baker and umwalter and me used to travel
around everywhere together andhe was the rodeo announcer and i

(01:41:26):
used to write the rodeos and hewas he was the life of the party
man he had the coolest nicknamei've ever heard in rodeo and it
was walter baker the baby makerbecause women women loved him
and and he was like he was thelife of party like you weren't
really at a rodeo if you didn'tget a leap at a rodeo just as

(01:41:52):
COVID restrictions opened up atthe end of 2020 and it was a
real shock because he wasn'tsick or anything he just went to
bed he said he had a headache hewent to bed and never woke up
and it was a big shock to all ofus rodeo cowboys because he was
if you found someone that didn'tlike Walter Baker there was a

(01:42:13):
reason that person didn't haveany friends you know because he
was the most likeable person inthe world and that really mess
me up so I wrote that song andthat was the first original song
I ever released technicallybecause I did a recording on my
iPhone and posted it up it wasthe last recording on an iPhone
I did before going and recordingthe beginning and when I did the

(01:42:36):
original song and people reallylatched onto it and loved it and
I was like alright well maybe Ishould go record this album and
I'd won a heap of money at arodeo like previously And I was
like, maybe I'll use that moneyinstead of drinking it and
smoking it.
I went down there.
I had no musical backgroundbesides playing a guitar,

(01:43:00):
playing campfire chords on aguitar back then.
Like, gee, I only knew the bigfour, you know, like really.
And went down there and...
Luckily, the producer, SimonJohnson from Hillbilly Hut, he
really helped me figure it outand teach me as I'm going.
And I didn't have any marketingfor the album.

(01:43:23):
I remember that I released it atMount Isa Rodeo across from the
house that she, the girl fromFightin' Tears, took her life
in.
The rodeo grounds is across fromthe house she was at.
And, yeah, releasing it was sortof like deja vu, you know, to
me.

UNKNOWN (01:43:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:43:41):
I remember I was at the rodeo and there's not a lot
of reception, like phone serviceat this rodeo, so I had to drive
into town and go to the place Iused to work at and say, hey,
could I borrow a computer forfive minutes so I could upload
my album to DistroKid?
And they're like, yeah.
And I still had my logindetails.
That was still active on mycomputer after a couple of years

(01:44:02):
and I was like, sweet, I justlogged straight in.
And, yeah, the rest is history.
I remember it officiallydropped.
at like 6.30 p.m.
on the Saturday.
I didn't know about releasetimes or any of that.
I literally just released itlike that and I was like, my

(01:44:23):
album's out, guys.
Went up to the bar, drank a bit,went back to bed, didn't think
much of it.
It was streaming somehalf-alright numbers and then I
don't know who found Fightin'Tears but they found that song
on TikTok and it caught on likewildfire.
People were using it.
and it everywhere on sounds andI was like wow this is cool and

(01:44:46):
I was for a long time I'm likeoh you know you know a few
Americans that's cool and then Iwent through a deep dive of it
one day when I was sitting athome I'm like nearly all of
these are Americans like I thinkI'm the only Australian that's
posted about my song that'scrazy and then yeah I went
gigging and doing all that andlearning more I dove in

(01:45:09):
immensely in 2021 and just said,you know, this is what I want to
do.
I quit my job.
I was still rodeoing, so I wasbouncing between doing a show
and then going to a rodeo,scraping by.
I don't think I had any morethan$2,000 in my account at a
time that year.

(01:45:29):
And then barely paying the billsand I broke up with a girlfriend
and moved from home and won theStar Maker thing and now it's
all starting to pay off butstill i just want to see where
where else you know where elsethe road will take me

SPEAKER_02 (01:45:49):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:45:50):
you know it's crazy how far i've got but that's
that's basically the story ofhow it all become because like
yeah there was no interest inbeing a musician out of school
It was always– when I was atschool, I was like, I want to be
a rugby player and then Irealized I wasn't very good at
that.
So I went to rodeo and then Iwas like, oh, well, I want to be

(01:46:11):
a rodeo cowboy, you know, andthen next minute here I am, you
know.
Like it's crazy how far thingscan go in 10 years because I've
been out of school 10 years nowand like if you told me this 10
years ago, I would have said,no, that's like out of a movie,
you know, that's crazy.
That stuff doesn't happen topeople out– Australia

SPEAKER_01 (01:46:32):
yeah well it did

SPEAKER_00 (01:46:35):
it did it sort of frightened me at first but yeah
no it's um I'm ever so gratefulof the ride I've been on and
like look at look at look at thethings I'm getting to do like a
lot of people don't get to dothis in a lifetime and I'm yeah
I'm pretty blessed and I alwaysthank God and you know thank all
the people around me that havebeen helping me like my manager

(01:46:58):
and booking agents and stufflike that you know I consider it
like a family deal.
There's less of a businessbecause if I don't keep moving
up, they don't keep moving up.
So we're always workingtogether.
It's not me being the head manor something like that.
It's always us working togetherto get more.

(01:47:18):
So I'm in Brisbane right now, sowe'll fly out of Brisbane to go
to the States and all my bandlive in Brisbane.
And when I come down here, Inever get a hotel room.
They always put me up.
They're like, oh, come here,come here, I've got a spare bed.
So it's, you know, it's a bigfamily is what it is in my eyes.

(01:47:39):
A lot of people see it asbusiness, but I see it as a big
family.

SPEAKER_01 (01:47:43):
Yeah.
It definitely, you know, familybusiness works too.
More on the personal side ofthings.
But, yeah, man, like I just gota thing that says your battery's
getting ready to die.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:00):
Oh.
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:48:00):
don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:01):
no no it's it's plenty

SPEAKER_01 (01:48:03):
okay yeah sometimes you know streaming you don't
realize that normally wouldhappen uh with a lot of the
podcasts they just disappear andthey're like oh

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:15):
forgot

SPEAKER_01 (01:48:15):
to

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:16):
plug it in it's all good man but no um yeah if you
don't have any other questionsfor me man like i can duck if
you need to go yeah

SPEAKER_01 (01:48:24):
yeah dude i i've enjoyed talking to you a lot it
was really cool and i learned Somuch about it.
It's funny.
Like, I guess the one thing I dowant to ask you.
is uh like being from australiaand you come over here and you

(01:48:47):
get a big huge following do youget worried because because i
witnessed someone complain aboutmusic he said i miss that old
american rock and roll you knowac dc and i was like That's
Australian.
Yeah.
I say, you know, the Youngs,they, you know, they moved to

(01:49:08):
Australia.
That's an Australian band, youknow?
It's like, what?
Since when?
And not a lot of people...
Do you get worried that...
I totally forgot Keith Urban wasAustralian.
Is

SPEAKER_00 (01:49:21):
that bothering you?
I don't think I'll ever lose myAustralian touch.
Every time I've been to theStates, it's very hard to get
the accent out of me.
I'd have to live there for 30years before I started talking
like an American.
But even then, I'm very proud ofwhere I come from.
Even my hometown, everywhere Iplay, I tell them where my

(01:49:42):
hometown is.
I'm like, I'm from Winton,Queensland, you know.
I represent the 4-7-3-5, youknow.
Like everyone from my hometown,they put their town on their
back when they go out of town.
Like there's a rugby playerplaying in Australia right now
and he's from Winton and heplayed in like our version of
the All-Star game this year forthe first time ever and they

(01:50:04):
always say their hometown footyteam and he said, Kurt, man,
Winton Diamond Team of Devilsand all the Winton, I reckon
that town would have erupted ifI wasn't at the cattle station,
and if I was in town listeningto it, I reckon the town would
have erupted.
There's just a pride.
I think in every Australianthere's a pride of where they

(01:50:25):
come from and their hometown.
As much as usually with yourpatriotism, for us it's about
pride from your state and yourhometown.
Especially in Australia, it's alot about your state.
It's similar to Texas andPhiladelphia, the rivalry they
have there.
In Australia, it's likeQueensland versus New South

(01:50:45):
Wales sort of stuff.
And I don't think I'd ever losetouch with my Australian side.
You know.
It's always been about the greenand gold for me, the Australian
colours.
Every time I end up on a podcastor talking in the news and

(01:51:07):
they're always talking aboutAmerica and they always go,
yeah, yeah.
But at the end of the day, I'mjust an Aussie in their waters.
As much as like Paddy Mills wasin the NBA playing for the
Spurs, he was from Cairns inQueensland.
Australians coming over there toshowcase Australia That's what I
want to do, you know.
Nice.

(01:51:29):
Yeah, I don't think– yeah, itwon't bother me if people are
like, oh, he's not American oranything like that, you know.
I've got a pride about myselfabout where I'm from.

SPEAKER_01 (01:51:42):
Yeah, that's a good thing.
I was just, you know, becauseI'm just trying to think because
not a lot of people know likecertain bands are like
Australian.
I think like–

SPEAKER_00 (01:51:53):
I can't believe you remember the chats.
Oh, dude.
I'm on Snapchat

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:57):
now.
Leave me alone.
Leave me alone.

SPEAKER_00 (01:52:00):
It's such a good song.
I remember hearing that, and Iwas like, these dudes get it.
These dudes are just living it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:52:07):
And they're just like, I love this song, Bus
Bunny.
It's him buying scratchers andthe Rothy Blues.
Please stop.
Just give me some money.
I need to take the bus.

SPEAKER_00 (01:52:21):
Rothy Blues are like, oh, I don't know how to
explain it.
That's like the cheap smokes inAustralia.
They're like, yeah, if you'resmoking Rothy Blues, you go, oh,
shit, you didn't get paid thisweek.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:32):
Like...

SPEAKER_00 (01:52:34):
It is pretty cool to see Australian music in America.
I don't think I'll have anydramas with any of that stuff.
Keith wanted to be a countryartist.
I'm not saying this on hisbehalf, but I don't think he was

(01:52:56):
like, oh, I'm Australian, I'mAustralian, I'm Australian.
People just found out every nowand then.
For me, it's like I'mAustralian.
like I'm telling everyone likeyeah you know it's like it's a
part of my identity why wouldn'tI tell everyone you know

SPEAKER_01 (01:53:12):
yeah it's I mean people have been listening to
Australian bands probablyforever and they probably don't
know like NXS uh was it Men atWork Air Supply and then uh yeah
uh Parkway Drive they're

SPEAKER_00 (01:53:33):
Australian sticky thing um there's some cool bands
to check out um wolf

SPEAKER_01 (01:53:39):
mother yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:53:41):
wolf mother yeah

SPEAKER_01 (01:53:42):
and uh jet

SPEAKER_00 (01:53:45):
Jet.
Oh, I had a Jet CD as a kid.
Dad used to play that beforegoing to the rodeo to G up a
bit.
Yeah, that's

SPEAKER_01 (01:53:53):
a good song.
Do the Bee Gees count?

SPEAKER_00 (01:53:59):
I think there's a few of them are Australian, and
I think others could be English,I think.

SPEAKER_01 (01:54:06):
Yeah, I think, yeah.
Something

SPEAKER_00 (01:54:09):
like that.
I think they partially count,yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:54:12):
Yeah.
Oh, Silver Chair, one of myfavorites.
I don't know if it said

SPEAKER_00 (01:54:14):
that.
Oh, yeah.
The Newcastle Legends, man.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:54:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:54:18):
Silverchair.
Frogstomp, one of the greatestAustralian albums of all time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:54:23):
Oh, dude.
That's kind of like my friendsmake fun of me for that because
to this day, I will play theirinstrumental Madman at a show.
If I'm playing at a show andI'll go, anybody knows what band
wrote that?
I will buy you a drink.
And the people that come up andsay that was Silverchair,
Madman.

(01:54:43):
And I'm like, I'll get you twodrinks if you know what I mean.
the album was.
That changed the way of how Iplayed guitar because all their
songs were in drop D and you canplay with two fingers.
It was easy to play, but you'replaying really cool, fun music.
I loved that because at the timewhen they came out, I was just

(01:55:04):
learning how to play and I wasterrible, but I was playing
their music because they wereteenagers too, so it was really
cool.

SPEAKER_00 (01:55:14):
I remember hearing tomorrow for the first time and
that distortion that distortionand you just go oh like that's
that's i i don't know if thatwas already a thing like
distortion like that but it wasjust so different when i first
heard it i was like yeah this isawesome

SPEAKER_01 (01:55:36):
yeah like that was a great album that That definitely
shaped the way my music wentwith guitar and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:55:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:55:47):
So, yeah, there's definitely...

SPEAKER_00 (01:55:48):
There's a heap of them, Ozzy.
The big genre in Australia, Ithink, is, like, that beach
rock, as they call it.
And it's, like, yeah, like,Sticky Fingers and...
Like, Sticky Fingers is one tocheck out.
The Dregs, um...
Spacey Jane, Ocean Alley, that'ssort of what Australia's biggest

(01:56:12):
market of music is, is thatindie beach rock.
And it's some pretty good stuff.
If I've got to recommend oneAustralian song of that genre,
it'd be Booster Seat by SpaceyJane or Australia Street by
Sticky Fingers.
And, like, those songs epitomisea bit of Australian culture,

(01:56:32):
like, you know, pretty well.
And in terms of, like, countrymusic, I would say How To Make
Gravy by Paul Kelly.
If you're trying to hear somemore Australian country music,
there's a heap of Australiancountry music and not enough
time to announce all of it, but,like, Paul Kelly's probably

(01:56:54):
right up there.
Slim Dusty, Lee Kernighan, TroyCassadaly, The Wolfs.
brothers you know there's somepretty big names uh max jackson
i've done a song with her piperbutcher she's on the up um
melody moco all these names likethey're all worth a listen but
yeah it's australian country andit's coming it's coming
everyone's going to hear aboutit soon

SPEAKER_01 (01:57:15):
yeah and well the would you be considered the
pioneer the first no no no no noi

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:22):
i think what i'm doing is totally different to
what they're doing and um

SPEAKER_01 (01:57:26):
okay

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:27):
i think i I don't think I'd be comfortable calling
myself pioneer.
I think, I think if anyone is apioneer, it's probably Keith,
even though, you know, like Isaid, he probably doesn't
explain how Australian he is alot of the time where, you know,
the rest of us were like, we'retrue blue, you know?

SPEAKER_01 (01:57:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the accent.

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:51):
Yeah.
And the accent.
Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 (01:57:53):
That's a big one.
But yeah, man, dude, we've beentalking for a while.
Is there anything else you wantto talk about?

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:58):
no man um just be ready for the album I guess um
the album I think everyone'sgonna enjoy it I hope they enjoy
it because I enjoyed making ityou know so yeah I'm gonna send
I'll send you the album on yourInstagram so you can get a sneak
peek because of this yeah

SPEAKER_01 (01:58:16):
yeah and I'll make sure everybody uh listens to the
new song uh what is it Goosenecktrailer

SPEAKER_00 (01:58:24):
Gooseneck Party ah

SPEAKER_01 (01:58:25):
Gooseneck

SPEAKER_00 (01:58:26):
Party yeah yeah but it's out today yeah

SPEAKER_01 (01:58:30):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:58:31):
so the album album drops October 24th um yeah so
and the album's called GooseneckParty but the lead single off
the album is out today nice butyeah other than that man I don't
have much else to tell you butI'm keen for Whataburger and
keen for a Dos Equis and aTwisted Tea

SPEAKER_01 (01:58:51):
there you go but yeah man thanks for taking time
to

SPEAKER_00 (01:58:57):
talk thanks for having me like like i said i've
been following you for a longtime so to be on this is it's a
pretty cool moment for me

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:05):
yeah it's cool to have you on

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:09):
Am I your first Australian?

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:12):
Yeah, I don't think.
Hell yeah.
You might be the firstinternational artist.

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:19):
Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:21):
Yeah, unless I messed that

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:23):
up.
I don't think Canada counts.
Canada's just Little America.
I don't think that counts.
If you've had a Canadian onthere, I don't think that
counts.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:32):
Yeah, Little America, that's funny.
Yeah, I don't know if I had anyCanadians on.
I don't know.
I'll have to ask.
Talbot, who knows.

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:41):
Talbot, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:42):
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:59:43):
But yeah, I'll send you the album, man.
I hope you enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:48):
Yeah, cool.
Yeah, I'm definitely sure Iwill.
But yeah, man, well, I guessnormally I say enjoy the rest of
your night, but you're juststarting your day.

SPEAKER_00 (02:00:00):
Yeah, I'll enjoy the rest of my day.

SPEAKER_01 (02:00:02):
Yeah, there you

SPEAKER_00 (02:00:05):
go.
Thanks, man.
Thanks

SPEAKER_01 (02:00:05):
for coming on.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (02:00:07):
good talking to you.

SPEAKER_01 (02:00:08):
Thank you.
I'll see you.
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