How clingy, is too clingy

Lachie & Amy dive into an upcoming Europe trip. A fan accusing Lachie of never struggling and so much more.

Amy's reddit story this week is interesting.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome back. Welcome back everyone.
How exciting. This is gonna be probably the
highlight of EVERYONE Listeningsweek.
Right, definitely is mine. Why is it yours?
Because this is the time we get to chat to each other.
And even though I don't know, I don't know, I'm going with that.
I just I. Give me, give me some love.

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Yeah, I mean, even though we're talking to other people where
it's also a chance for us to talk to each other.
Technically, we're not talking to other people, we're just
talking. For other people to listen to.
I had a brain fart because I waslike, wait a second.
There's no one even here. It's crazy.
So this is our second attempt. I made a mistake.
I didn't push record on the audio and aim is that what

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should we record it again? I was like, Nah, I think I'll be
able to save it. But the new office, the sound is
very tinny without these microphones.
So yeah, I. Mean the audience deserves the
best quality so we. Won't my voice is shocking and
hard enough to listen to, so youthrow a bit.
Of thinks that about their own voice, you.
Throw a bit of tin tone on that and here we are.

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Tin tone. I actually got to start with
something. I need to bring this up because
I don't I don't know if you saw it.
OK, this is social media, everyone.
This is social media. But I did a post yesterday and
the post was you carry financialpressure but say nothing.
It's silently burying you. And then I just went on to my
experience with that. Yeah, this guy comments had a

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lot of great responses. But this one guy, bro, isn't
your wife like a pop star? I'm sure you're were doing fine.
And I said, why do you assume that?
And then someone else, some lady's back.
She's like, bro, you think pop or rock stars don't have
problems? And then he goes with limited

(01:52):
context. It just stuck struck me as
sorry, stuck. He's spelled wrong.
I should have got him on that. Damn it.
It just stuck me as inauthentic.I think this is a big issue for
a lot of guys and I hope you're attempting to profit off it via
like he's definitely it's misspelled.
I'm going to interpret it the way that I think he meant it,
where he said, I hope you're notattempting to profit off it via

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feigned shared experience. And here's here's here's what I
said. It's not over.
He said, OK, mate, with limited context, generally the next
thing to do would be to seek more context.
And if you did more of that you'd also find out there's
plenty of information around my financial stuff.

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And then I said wishing you all the best.
He said same mate. Wasn't trying to offend, just
seemed like a glaringly obvious question based on how you chose
to message. But I certainly could have been
more tactful in my wedding. My apologies.
Social media. Social media is people.

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Speak so much before they think.I've experienced that a lot.
Especially the IVF. Yeah, it's so infuriating.
People have a lot of assumptionsand ignorance is rife.
I think people are just looking through their they're either
like, I have no idea why he needed to comment that.

(03:17):
Yeah, like I can understand potentially with IVF for you,
like I want to give my like my experience without looking
through your eyes. But that there's like, well,
it's that was just a shot. I feel like he's in, he's got
something going on in his life. Of course.
Absolutely, but it wasn't like atroll.
No, they weren't. They were like.

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They weren't like a faceless. Troll.
No, we, we had, I looked at him,he's got his family on there and
he seems like a decent bloke. Is it?
That's why I messaged back, people.
Just assume because I do music for a living, I'm like a.
Loaded. Loaded.
Famous. I don't know because I'm in the
public eye must mean that I am. Successful and.
Yeah, we, we have had success, but it's like like as a musician

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you're always unemployed. Do you know what I mean?
I don't think people understand that.
It's like you're always waiting for the next job and the next
gig and that can be really hard,like in the in between parts
anyway. What do you think of our
appearance on couple goals? On what paper was that?
A career male we were in, we hadlike a three page spread.

(04:25):
I've always wanted to be the centre page spread after
watching my first meeting. My first.
The. Centrefold Penthouse.
I was like, I could be there oneday.
Oh God, no, I'm joking. Yeah, so it was really funny.
We weren't really expecting it to be in the career mail.
We did an interview and a. Photo shoot like photo shoot
over a year ago. Yeah, it was like a little

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piece. I thought it was like for an
online piece about and they havea a segment called couple goals.
They robbed our podcast. Where they got that name from,
who knows. But anyway, he said Yep, we'd
love to be on it. And this was over a year ago.
We gave an interview and yeah, it's come out over a year later
and. Completely forgot about it until

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I was tagged in it. I was like, what the hell is
this? Which must mean I'm a
millionaire. Which also as a byproduct must
mean I too am. I am too.
And that also means you're not alot of profit off any of your
experiences, according to that guy.
Here's the interesting thing. I feel like every business

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started off the back of a problem in someone's life where
they're like, this is a pain in the ass.
I'm going to solve that problem,and now that I know how to solve
it, I can help other people solve it.
Yeah. Simple.
Fuck. Just wild.
Absolutely wild. What else is happening?
Well. We haven't got your artwork yet.

(05:51):
Still, we actually haven't even got a notification.
Team is very slow maybe. You've been gypped.
Have you been ripped up? Maybe.
I checked the status on that, although Teamu, it does take a
little while and you know what, I wouldn't be surprised if it
arrived and it was like a print.Like the no I did.

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I did check sizing, look order confirmed 10 days ago.
Well, it does take a while to. Get it hasn't even been shipped.
Uh oh, let. Me, let me.
Or maybe that was the initial let's view order.
But you're right, it does suck. But now it's asking me for
security verification. My goodness, this is crazy.

(06:34):
Don't give away any information.Lucky.
No, I'm just trying to build theshape, but the shape is not
going to be built. Oh, there we go.
Did it. Oh my God.
But I was going to go somewhere with that, and I cannot remember
now. So with the painting, but now
it's just absolutely, absolutely.
Well, when everyone sees it, they'll play Wow.

(06:56):
Where'd you get? That one, where'd you get that
image from? And it wasn't Timo, It was
legit. We spent lots of money on it.
Well, all of our couple goalers know the truth.
But I was about to say I'm flying out to Europe.
Yeah. On Sunday I booked booked the
car, last night got a Fiat Punto.

(07:18):
I think it's cool when you told me that, Lucky yelled out.
To me, like Penny, come. And look at the car I just
booked. I was like, Oh my God, I bet he
got like a convertible. I thought because I in my head,
I, because you're going to Italy, just had this vision of
you like in a convertible going around the Amalfi Coast.
That's the complete opposite image that I had.
And then when I saw it, I was like, that is the complete
opposite of that. But that is the image I had.

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I got a Fiat Panda, not a Punto.I don't even know if there is a
Punto if that's just a word I said.
But it's it's tiny. I envisioned like in my.
Smart Car. Backpack.
Yeah, my backpack on the roof. It's Italian.
Yeah, that'd be fun. It's it from A to B?
I'm jealous. So you're going to our friend's
wedding? Yes, I'm flying over.

(08:01):
It's our time. Yeah.
Flying over, spending three daysin France visiting Etienne.
And we'll probably ride motorbikes, eat croissants or
just the food's gonna be good. Probably have a little bit of
champagne. And then we're working on his
house. Are you?
Yeah. Yeah.
Can you? These renovating the.
House that we have, don't have. We're also looking at buying

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another house, which is brutal, but I haven't finished my Europe
story, so go back to that. Do that, then I'll fly to
Florence. From Florence I'll pick up my
little Fiat and I'll drive down to the Chianti region, which has
got some of the best red wine. We love Chianti, don't we?
Can. You bring me back a bottle.
Yeah, I'm going to get some for sure.
And a. Champagne.
I'm probably. Going to drink a lot of Chianti.

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I love it. So I'll be doing that and then
drive back to Florence and fly back to Australia.
So it's a very short trip, but it'll be fun.
But now that it's close, I'm pretty pumped.
Yeah, it's. Gonna be amazing.
I opted to stay here. Do you regret that decision?
Well, yes and no. Like I wanna come, but also I

(09:08):
just didn't know where we were gonna be at with our IVF
journey. Yeah.
So probably, yeah, I don't know.Could have that was you probably
could have made it happen because in hindsight is 2020,
but you just don't know what's going on.
And also I thought I was going to be on tour in the US.
Yeah. And so that got cancelled and

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which meant that when I went andlooked at flights, last minute
flights and all that's very expensive.
So, you know, I just came back from Europe.
We just came back from Europe and I'm happy to sort of chill.
I'm going back. I shouldn't just stand.
Over to chill at the moment, I think I just need to.
Zend in. Zen out and get ready for the
next. Round, yeah, I like it, but

(09:55):
housing? Housing, fuck me, I'm sure we're
not the only ones who are in this position.
So we're actually living with mymum, have been since we got back
from the US and it's looking like, just with the IVF and
stuff, it's looking like we're going to be in Brisbane at least
for the foreseeable future. We haven't given up on the US,

(10:16):
but obviously we need healthcareand so we're going to look for,
we're looking for a rental. And it's crazy, like everyone
says it, but until you're actually looking for one
yourself, it's like, you know, if you want something decent,
it's like 800 bucks a week. And when we say decent, what

(10:40):
we're looking for is 3 bedroom. No2 bedroom.
What I, when, when we're lookingfor decent and what I, what
we're looking for, it's two-bedroom.
Like ideal would be 3, heck ideal is 6 bedrooms but yeah at
least. I still remember when I first
moved out of home so this was 2009, not that long ago.

(11:01):
Maybe it is, but I was paying. So there's we had a three
bedroom house, 4 bedroom house in Toowoomba and between the
three of us, we're paying $70 each rent a week.
And like that was a lot even then.
Because generally when you finish school or you're doing an

(11:21):
apprenticeship or even if you'restudying, you're not earning
that much money. Say I think I was earning 800
bucks a week at that point. So that's like 110th of your
income, the equivalent now like 800.
Like let's say for example, evenif you're not, if you're sharing
a house and you're doing like 500 bucks, I could still.
It's a lot of money for someone who's not like, especially for

(11:43):
young. People, the wages haven't gone
up like that and it's crazy. So maybe we need some couples to
live with. Now fucked up shared house,
Yeah, I mean, there's always things that you can do.
But even when I was looking at further out, because obviously
we're in pretty in the city, I was looking further out and it's
still the same price for 2/2 bedrooms or two bedrooms no

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matter where you are like it maybe.
It's a little bit. Cheaper if you go further out,
but. Then you're further out.
Yeah, you're further out and it's not that much cheap.
You may as well live in Toowoomba then.
So you can live. Wherever.
Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, we had a meeting with
our mortgage broker and basically we could buy
something. Something small.

(12:29):
Very small, and probably smallerthan what we'd like, but at
least we're not paying. We're just like.
Dead money to rent and we're paying off our.
Own it just doesn't get you whatit once would have.
I think that's what. Because I'm the hard.
Part builder by trade here. I am a guru.
But it's just like, yeah, it's just it's skyrocketed and

(12:50):
continued all the all the fucking things that everyone
says, the reasons why people arepissed off.
It's true. We've just realized that it's
essentially. So now it's just you think, OK,
well, if I'm going to commit to something for 25 years to 30
years to pay it off, ideally you'd want to be committing to
something that you like. It's sort of like I feel like.

(13:11):
It's not for 2530 years. It might just be a.
Yeah, but I feel like if it's like a marriage, right, you're
not just going to get in any relationship and be like, oh,
this would be the one for the next bit just because it's
convenient. It's all I can get right now.
You want to hold yourself strong.
Well, you did looking and then you'd tell me.
I've had a look and it's grim. It's grim out there.

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So we might have to make some sacrifices and get a little
apartment and then, Yep, when weare making a bit more money, we
can either rent out that apartment or sell it.
Yep. And the other thing on top of

(13:57):
the property thing, Documentary update.
I feel like my brain's so tired right now.
It's been a busy big week. The documentary for those who
are wanting to know about the 58, which I hope some of you
guys want to watch it because it's going to be epic.
Got a meeting tomorrow night with Ben, who is our

(14:18):
videographer. And now we're bringing on
another producer to get it done at a faster time in a faster
time frame because we want to get it pitched and we want to
have it up in six weeks at the latest.
And this new guy reckons he can turn it around in four weeks.
So Ben's going to share with him, I guess, the storyline and

(14:38):
do all the professional chat, and then hopefully he'll get
started next week. And then in a month we'll have a
month to 5-6 weeks, we'll have adocumentary ready to ramble.
Yep, I can't wait. Exciting to launch that.
What are you going to do with it?
Are you going to take it to Netflix?
That's the plan. So the good thing about one of

(14:59):
our our sponsors, he's highly invested in it.
He's just like I, I took my sponsors for lunch last week and
he's like, I was sitting there and I just can't believe the
people you have in your corner, like very powerful, kind people
who have invested in you. And if we looked at this
properly, rather than just getting it out and made it into

(15:22):
like made a business plan aroundit, because the goal is to get
it in front of as many people aspossible.
They have a lot of connections with people who can make that
happen. So we're meeting when I get back
from Europe to, well, he's already working on something and
I'll work on something and just be like, this is what we're
going to present to the sponsorsalready, just because obviously

(15:43):
their logos are all over it. But like, who in their network
can they help us? And we'll start with the biggest
thing, which is he was even saying like if I, you know, gave
you 100 grand, for example, he'snot doing that.
But like he's just thinking likethink out there for marketing.
Like if we then send you over toTimes Square and just put you on
every billboard at once, like what is some of the outrageous

(16:03):
like guerrilla marketing you could do?
And so that's what we got to think of.
So if you guys have ideas, let me know.
Let. Him know.
Probably do something for the Gold Coast Marathon because I'm
doing the half, yeah. When is that?
6th I get back on the 3rd and it's no, it's on the 5th.
I'm gonna be the half's on the 5th.
You're. Gonna be.
Jet lagged screwed. It's part of the fun of it.

(16:27):
Jeez. And then you're, I'm just
thinking like you're gonna driveback.
Do you need a driver? From the Gold Coast.
Yeah. Are you gonna drive with
somebody? Probably stay down there that
night because the marathon's on the next day and I'll help
Maddie. Yeah.
Oh, you'll stay with a friend. Yeah, I will do that.
What else? Give us a Reddit story.

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Reddit story. OK Reddit, good one for you.
Do you know what's crazy? And everyone's going to think
this is the most logical thing I've ever said.
When we post an episode, our views go through the roof.
Yeah, that's my statement. No shit.
Yeah, you post content, you givestuff for people to listen to

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and they they listen, hit it. What do we got?
All right, I'm gonna. I've got a couple.
Of stories here somebody you, you keep talking.
Now I have to edit that bit. Far out more work for me, but
we're going for as soon as we'redone here.
We're going for pasta down at beck.
What time's Beckafina's open? It's.
Probably open now. Cool.

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I love nothing more than an early dinner.
I'm so excited as well. It's the pasta.
Pasta in Brisbane. Oh hands down, Beckafino.
Yeah, it's just casual. It's delicious and reliable.
Hard to get into sometimes. OK I found my story all right.

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Headline is my boyfriend who's amale 24 years old has a
breakdown whenever I male 23, ask him to get a job or go to
school. Long story short, I started
nursing school in the fall. I've been extremely overwhelmed
and frustrated because I have somuch going on.
My relationship is currently adding to my overwhelm.

(18:11):
He's very emotionally needy and doesn't respect my need for
space. He's also 24, doesn't have a job
and refuses to go to college so he's bored and wants me to fill
his empty time. I've told him hey go and get a
job or go to school, do something to enhance your life
and prepare for a future. But whatever I do, whenever I do

(18:32):
that, he has a breakdown, sayinghow everything and everyone is
out to get him and how he can't go to school because he doesn't
have the time, not the money, the time.
All he has now is an abundance of time.
Back when I was less busy, this didn't bother me.
Oh sorry, my phone's had a conniption.

(18:52):
Back when I was less busy, this didn't bother me.
But now that I'm actually working for a future, it's
getting on my nerves. I can't even have a conversation
about it without sobbing and himwithout him sobbing and telling
me he isn't good enough etceteraetcetera.
I just want him to do something,I don't care what it is.
Hell, he could even volunteer and I'd be OK with it, but he
needs to do something. I reproach this with compassion,

(19:15):
being more firm, asking why he doesn't want to get job, going
to college and trying to understand.
It always ends up with me comforting him and reassuring
him while he cries, even when I'm tired and I don't have it in
me. What the hell do I do?
What do you think? I think there's a song.
It's in my head. He goes no, I don't want no

(19:38):
scrub. Scrub is a gap king.
Get no love from me. Didn't seem too long.
We'll get banned from the scene.Cut him off.
Cut him off. I don't know, I just.
We're not here to fix people whodon't want to fix themself.
Yeah, he seems, I don't know, him being too harsh, but he
seems lazy, needy. He's dragging you down, he's

(19:58):
mooching off you, and you're 23.He's older than you like you
need to be building a life together if you want to go in
that direction. I think as you said the first
time, you need to be able to support people through their
tough times. But if they're not actively
doing anything to improve themself, like eventually you

(20:21):
have to set some boundary there to protect yourself.
Meaning I'm, you know, he's recommended all of these things,
but you're still not doing anything.
Yeah. And that then brings you down.
So it's like, eventually this isthe boundary and it's been
crossed. So now, yeah.
Because how are you paying rent?Are you affording to eat food?

(20:43):
I don't get it. Yeah.
What do you guys think on that? Let us know.
I mean, if you're with a partner, I think it's OK to, as
you said, lean on each other. It's OK to support your partner
for a certain period of time or forever if that's an arrangement
you have. But they're not married.
Doesn't seem like he's very happy with.
And it's also like, if you know,I think if that's the

(21:05):
arrangement, there's also still other things happening, like
you're not just sitting on your ass complaining and.
Crying. Pulling on the you know, the
sleeve of a shirt being like please look at me.
Exactly. So you've got to make yourself
valuable. I believe that's my belief.
I understand all circumstances are different, but I think if
you're in a hole, build a build a crew of people, acknowledge

(21:29):
that I need help, get the right people to help you, and then
also just do the things that youneed to do to get better.
I think breaking up with him would probably be a wake up call
that he needs because he's goingto have to move out and get a
job. That's scary.
Fuck. All right?
Anything else? I think that's all from us,
that's all the updates and the things that we've been dealing

(21:52):
in our relationship and there'llbe more to come as the weeks go
on and the problems arise and aswe look for a house and fed
anchor. Yeah.
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