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November 23, 2024 26 mins

Lachlan and Amy discuss the upcoming holiday season, their personal experiences with consumer culture, and the importance of sustainable fashion. They delve into defining moments in their lives that have shaped their relationship, explore the impact of consumerism on emotional well-being, and share their aspirations for the future. The conversation also touches on navigating challenges in relationships, particularly when it comes to friendships and trust. • The holiday season brings excitement but also consumer pressure. • Sustainable fashion choices can be more meaningful than fast fashion. • Defining moments in life can shape personal and relationship growth. • Consumerism can lead to anxiety and emotional distress.

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(00:00):
Welcome back to Couple Goals. We're here again.
Episode 1818 season 218. Jeez, this year has just flown
by. Honestly can't believe that it's
nearly the end of November there's.
Literally six weeks left until Christmas or five, five and a
bit. Let's go between that.
What did you ask Santa for this?Year, you don't want to know,

(00:22):
but I was on the nice list, so it's looking good for me.
What'd you get? What'd?
You ask for, I asked for a Guccibag.
A Gucci bag. I.
Asked for a Gucci bag of all thethings in the world.
Champagne new golden goose shoes.

(00:45):
Do you think I'm on the naughty list or the nice?
You haven't been that nice. Let's just say that.
That's a lot of niceness going out there.
Do you think you've been nice enough for all of that?
You know what I think I'm getting for Christmas?
Sweet FA. Sweet four call.
Now we're not doing presents. We're.
Flying. We'll be on.
We'll be in transit. Oh my.

(01:06):
Gosh, I am. So you'll probably get a nice
aeroplane meal. Yay.
Maybe they'll give you a dessertbecause it's Christmas.
Who knows? It's taking all of my strength
not to purchase anything at the Black Friday sales.
Like I keep getting these emails.
How long has Black Friday been athing for?

(01:27):
I think a while, but it's more, it was more an American thing,
but with the rise of social media.
It's yeah, we've adopted it because I've never done one.
And then when it popped up the other day, I was, I'm sure I've
got no, actually someone asked Emma if they could have the
program that she's doing. And I was like, I've got like
heaps of programs from back in the day for running programs,

(01:51):
hybrid program or strength and conditioning, but it's now
called hybrid because it's cool and strength programs.
And I was like, I'm just going to whip together a Black Friday
sale. Awesome.
But then I started thinking, howlong has it been around for?
And. I feel like it's just getting
bigger and bigger. Yeah, the some of the discounts
are insane, Yeah. I think they're bigger than the
Boxing Day sales. Now.
Remember Boxing Day sales? Yeah, and but it makes you

(02:13):
realize how much of A charge up businesses put on their
products. I know, but I think also they
have to to survive. Yeah.
Especially if you've got a shop front.
Like how are you going to pay your staff members?
Are you going to pay the wages? I don't know, I feel like some
of the multipliers are pretty, pretty juicy.

(02:33):
That's true too. I mean, we live in.
Yeah. Crazy side.
Inflated economies, but that's all good.
We just went for a walk as well.We were trying to get some
inspiration for today's episode.Look.
It's been a bit of AI, wouldn't say lazy week, but an uneventful
week for us. We've just been sort of laying
low. It was such a rainy day

(02:54):
yesterday, so Emma and I cleanedup our wardrobes.
Stay tuned because we might do asale.
Black Friday sale. Many clothes, but they're also
good clothes that we just like don't want to throw away.
I mean, we'll definitely donate some, but there's there's some I
feel like could be go to a new home.
And so we're going through the process of sorting all of that.

(03:15):
It's almost too much hassle to sell them though.
That's the problem. That's why it's easier to just
give it away. Yeah, I actually have a bunch of
clothes that I've intended on selling because they're designer
clothes. Yeah.
And then I ended up just giving them away because I was like, I
just can't. Yeah, give them away.
Donate. Donate.
Get them out of our room though.My auntie also has a vintage
shop. Shout out to Sassy Sue's.

(03:36):
It's in Kalgoorlie and so. Maybe you should sell them to
her well. We just give them to her.
She's our auntie, so. Yeah, but if she's profiting,
you should profit enough. Kidding, but questions.
You've, you've got some questions there for us to go
through. Yeah, we thought we'd do a
little quick fire. Quick.
Rapid fire. Rapid fire.
Yeah. Questionnaire.

(03:58):
We are. For those who are watching on
Patreon as well, you'll see thatI'm diligently holding a little
microphone. So we say this every week.
Obviously we're all sharing a house together at the moment.
And it's not like our forever house meeting.
We're not we're not going to move things around and set
things up permanently. So we're constantly fighting for

(04:20):
space. And at the moment I'm sitting on
Amy's, probably sitting on George's laptop because he was
making music last night. So rather than continuing,
because one of my biggest pet peeves is setting up the podcast
stuff, it's it's, it's quite frustrating.
So ideal one day to have our ownstudio like.
We did it in Kangaroo Point. Was well, but like a property.

(04:43):
Set up, there's always like a backdrop and we can just sit.
Just makes it easy. Like flick a switch and off we
go. Yeah.
So I just thought rather than setting that up, we'll use a
lapel mic. We tested it.
It sounded great. It's.
A powerful little guy. It is a powerful and look, we
should probably how it how it how it handles it.
That's right. And we should buy.

(05:03):
I should buy another one, and I probably will at some point, but
for the moment it's picking up both of our voices.
Like Friday sales grab 1 mid onejust.
One just throwing money out the door, but no.
So we were on a show also calledCouple Goals.
Not going to say that they stoleour name, stole our name, but
well, they were established in 2024.

(05:26):
We were established in 2022. So we'll let you guys decide who
was first. Logic wins.
But we thought this week we would ask each other some
questions that will help us get to know each other a little bit
more, but also help you guys getto know us a little bit more.
I'm hoping they're not all serious.

(05:47):
Are they all serious? I haven't read them.
OK, Amy hasn't read them, so there's no prep.
This is straight off the cup. All right, So are.
We going to take. Turns.
Yeah, we're going to go. You go, I go.
OK, All right, let's go. What is a defining moment in
your life that shaped who you are today, and how does it
influence the way you approach our relationship?
Wow. Also, should we turn our caps

(06:10):
backwards so people can see our lovely faces?
Just thought that. So a a defining.
Let me have a look a defining moment.
What's a defining moment in yourlife that shapes who you are
today, and how does it influencethe way you approach our
relationship? A defining moment.

(06:31):
I've got so many defined by so many.
I think starting a business, especially in men's health,
because it came off the back of me needing to sort my shit out.
And as a result of that, now I get to work with other people
going through different things, which constantly reminds me of
what I've got to lose if I don'tmaintain the standards that I've

(06:55):
built or the habits that I've built.
So I think that's a defining moment, how it's helped me in
the relationship. I see so many people going
through divorces and, or even just relationship breakdown and
how it just destroys them. And so for me, it's made me and
I'm not perfect, but I try to not take you for granted

(07:16):
regularly. Oh.
Thanks. Really.
Peace. OK.
We're not going to ask each other the same questions either.
So what's something you've always wanted me to understand
about you, but you've never beenable to put into words?
It's a weird question. That's a deep I feel like you

(07:37):
understand. Me pretty well.
You're quite an emotionally intelligent person.
I don't think you understand my innate desire to have to buy a
piece of clothing every week. Where does that come from?
What do you feel the need to do?That but I do feel the need why

(07:59):
to buy it. What are you trying to validate?
I just what hole are you trying?To I mean ladies, I'm sure you
can all corroborate this with with me.
Does that make sense? Corroborate.
Or would it be corroborate? Anyway, or sympathise with me
because you just get, I think it's just like the marketing you

(08:19):
get targeted so many ads, socialmedia and just to wear something
new is like. The best?
Feeling but you feel like hot and like.
But do you not feel hot if you wear old clothes?
I do, but not as hot, not as it's not a thrill.
I don't know what it is. Interesting.

(08:40):
Oh, it's always just you feel sogood when you wear something
new. I don't know what it is.
It's just like a fresh look. You feel in style, you don't
feel tired. It's funny because when hearing
you say that, I like to literally wear my stuff until
it's got holes in it. I was literally saying to Amy
the other day, like most of my pairs of jocks have holes
somewhere in them. And I've got a new, new set of

(09:01):
seven coming, which is exciting.But even like this I can
understand like when you put a new shirt on.
But for me, it's like if I always needed to wear new
clothes at one, I'd spend a lot of money, but I wouldn't get the
use out of what I've purchased. And so therefore I just wear all
the It's a. Good way to be and I'm trying.
Very well. I'm doing well and there's

(09:22):
always something to buy. You know, that's what I had to
tell myself when I want to go buy peace because I'm like, you
know, you get caught up in the the good deals, but I just
think, you know what, come Boxing Day, there's going to be
something else to buy. Well, I can appreciate it like
if it makes you feel good, but there's got to be like a fine
line between needing it and just, you know, treating

(09:45):
yourself every now and then sortof thing.
Because I've I've, well, it's. Just like Mexico, it's like this
innate desire to buy a new wardrobe, like all new pieces to
take. Because I know that's what the
other girls are going to do, that's what they're doing.
But who? So I don't want to be.
The only one in old clothes. Who actually cares?

(10:08):
Do do you notice that the girls will sit around at drinks and go
Oh my God, Amy 2021 No, do do girls do that or.
No, but it's just like, Oh yeah,I've seen that.
It's not exciting. I've never had a.
Do they say new and all the girls compliment on it?
I'm sure that'll compliment you anyway, do they not?
Probably. I'm sure they do.
And I know like everyone who's got a really good friends and

(10:29):
they don't. Care.
And I feel like I compliment youdaily, whether you're nude or
you're in your pajamas or you'rein your workout gear.
I don't. Know you guys, let me know what
you think about that and also like it's just the society and
that we've been bought. Consumerism.
Consumerism and I am aware of itbut I can't help it.
So what are your tips to not buying new things?

(10:53):
Actually I saw a really cool thing on Instagram where these
girls got together and they had a Secret Santa but they bought
each other something that was pre loved.
I like that. So they all went to like op
shops and bought something like cool glasses or that was pretty
cool. Yeah, I think about it a lot.
I just think we've everyone focuses so much on stuff that

(11:15):
doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of it.
Like I've lost two friends this week and I think like knowing
like in a in a week's time, people are going to have moved
on. So like when people stress about
their outfits or their whatever,who gives a shit?

(11:35):
Like for me, it's like, I think people's career matters because
most people are like, for example, for you and Shepherd is
like, your music will live on longer than you guys will.
But it also impacts people's lives.
And I think I would like to think my work does.
So I feel like that is a meaningful commitment.
But then when people stress about what food they're going to

(11:56):
eat or how they look or how theywant to be seen, for me it's
like it doesn't really matter. Yeah, it doesn't really matter.
It's not. It's small.
People, people literally have anxiety.
And I feel like a. Depression because of it.
I actually don't care as much asa lot of people do.
Like there would be a lot of people who would probably do

(12:17):
full hair and makeup for an episode like this and I just
don't give a shit because I knowthat my listeners are here, not
for how I look. And you're already married.
So I do think that I'm well balanced in that sense, but I,
I, I'm just like any other girl.I can't fight the.
Urgent you got the emotions. Yeah, and they know how to, you
know, I feel like it's like a casino.
They know how to tap into your emotions and make you buy and

(12:39):
make you want to buy. There's a great book called The
Psychology of Persuasion. Read it.
Anyone who's interested. Read it and you just read it and
you're like, that's happening tome right now.
What do we got? OK, if you could relive one day
from our time together, which day would it be and why does it
stand out to you? That's a great question.

(13:01):
That's a really good question. I would love to say our wedding
day, like that's obviously the obvious choice and most of those
days around that because it was just like stress free.
I didn't think about work, You weren't thinking about work.
It was just purely all. My loved ones around.
Yeah, I think like you could relive any of those days.

(13:21):
But if I was going to choose something different, I would.
I liked when we went to Europe together, like in 2019 and we
caught up with like Izzy and that's not one day, but I feel
like that was, I think that was one of our first.
Like we'd been on holidays together, but we're always with

(13:42):
people. So that was like our first
holiday where it was just you and I and we got to catch up
with some of your friends, some of my friends.
Like that whole time was just gnarly.
I really like that. And I saw you snowboarding which
which was one for the memory that was one for.
The memory I knocked my old nogget and lucky I'm still
alive. I know.
Yeah, I was. Don't want to hit your head too

(14:05):
hard there. What's a moment in our
relationship where you felt mostloved and understood, and what
made it special? Probably just like surviving
those early days when we were Shepherd were touring a lot and

(14:26):
we were going through a long distance relationship and I
thought for sure that we were going to break up because I just
didn't know how I would hold down a relationship with my
crazy schedule. And you understood, and you
stuck around. Wild.

(14:46):
I think, yeah. You can expand on it if you
want. No, I think that's does that
answer the question. Definitely did, for sure.
Well, we'll let the audience decide.
You can, Yeah. And.
I feel like it was amazing how you started a business so you
could join me more. You know what I mean?
I just never felt more understood than that, like
somebody wanted to change their lives and change their whole

(15:08):
career so that you could, yeah, be a part of my life.
Yeah, wild strawberries, you gotme #3.
What's a personal goal you're currently working on that you've
never shared with me? Wow you got all the good ones.

(15:30):
Well it's probably always finances like I hate.
I would love to just have money as no issue again.
Like I feel like moving, moving overseas has taken that away
from me in a sense. So I think in like.
Like, we're OK, we still have a roof of our heads, enough to

(15:52):
eat, enough to pay rent, but it's like we used to have excess
cash, you know, just disposable.Yeah, like if if we needed a
weekend away or whatever, we it's like you don't think about
it, whereas now we have to thinkabout it.
And I find really hard is like my role.
I like the idea of it being ableto provide and not have you

(16:13):
stress about that, But because we're in a weird position where
it's like, I don't want to work too much here in Australia
because I know we're about to leave again in five weeks.
So it's really hard to sort of set your roots.
And then also, yeah, it's a bit murky.
So there's like uncertainty around that is is probably the

(16:33):
goal that I'm working on solvingthat I don't necessarily, you
probably already know, but I don't need to talk about a lot.
All right, If you could describeyour ideal vision of us 10 years
from now, what does it look like?
Oh, I 10 years from now so. 2034.

(16:56):
I'd like to think we'd probably finally.
We're going to be, we're going to be 43.
Oh, it's so scary. OK, we'll definitely have some
kitties by then, I hope, and then we'll hopefully own.
OK. Ideally own a couple of
properties, like maybe one or two like one on the coast.
We already own one We. Already own one in Toowoomba.

(17:18):
So there's two, let's say 1A base in the US, whether that's a
shared with the part of the siblings.
And I think that'd be awesome ifwe could still travel around the
world. I don't think we're going to
have a conventional life where, you know, our kids are going to
go to regular school. I feel like they might have to
be home schooled, but hopefully by then we're selling big.

(17:43):
We're playing to big crowds in around the world, not just
Australia. I think we're going to by then
build up our US audience. And so we definitely.
Live. Maybe even European.
Oh yeah, you just announced thatyou're a Pinto.
We'll hit on that at the end. Yeah, very excited for that.
But yeah, just plug that quicklyin case we do forget my turn #4

(18:05):
What's one thing? Hold on, did I ask that?
Yeah, no, I asked that. Sorry.
It's your turn, sorry #4. #4 What's a quirk or habit of mine
that you've grown to love, even if it annoyed you at first, it.
Didn't annoy me but I think I mentioned this on last week's
just when you do your random stupid dances.
You were literally doing one in the mirror before when you put

(18:27):
your tights on a new cap on and you were doing some fucking
weird dance. And it's so funny.
But also you're just like in thebeginning I was like, is she all
there? Like oh, we've no kidding.
Sorry to try. And make you laugh.
But there you go. No, she did it before.
I'll try and film some for you guys and we'll put them up

(18:48):
because they're always happening.
Must be my turn. Yeah.
What's one thing you've learned about yourself through being on
this being in this relationship that surprised you?
I think you definitely push me outside the boundaries.
You know, if I'm thinking about doing, for example, thinking

(19:08):
about doing a country song, you will push me to like fully dive
into the country music industry,like podcasts, for example.
It was just like a little idea that we were talking about, but
you actually like put it into action because I think a lot of
times in my life, things can getin the way.
I get very busy. And so to actually implement
actionable steps can be difficult for me sometimes.

(19:31):
So I think that you definitely push me to be better in that
respect. I'll take that.
You guys heard it here. AM I asking you?
Yeah, you're on. If you had to sum up what I
bring to your life in one sentence, what would you say?
Happiness. That's one word, but that's it.

(19:55):
That's so cute. This will be the last question.
We don't need to go to six H. OK, I want to hear your pet
peeve or your Reddit story. If you could go back to the
first year of our relationship, what advice would you give us as
a couple? Now this is cool.
And just for context for anyone who's listening to this for the
first time or doesn't really know, Amy and I, within the

(20:17):
first year Amy was travelling the world.
I was living in a town called Twomba, so we had a lot of
distance. So.
Our or whatever Amy's about to say might be a little bit
different to what you would say to her.
I guess. So.
I don't want to say normal relationship, but like one where
there's not a lot of travel involved.

(20:37):
I don't know. I think it's kind of one of
those situations where you like if you changed anything, we'd
have a different relationship and it might not be a good one.
So I don't know if I would change anything.
I would just say, if I could go back, I'd just say it's all
going to work out. Don't stress the small stuff.
So I think, you know, like everyrelationship in the beginning,

(20:57):
we definitely had our little fights and moments, but you need
those to like learn about each other and learn boundaries.
Right. Yeah, yeah.
And no one's perfect, all right?Time for the Reddit story.
If you have questions for next week, if you like that, wow, we
have a crack next week, drop us some questions.
I do enjoy doing that. Yeah, it's interesting to think,

(21:19):
but let's go to your Reddit. OK, my Reddit story.
My best friend kissed my husband.
It's destroying me. How do I proceed?
I have been with my husband for six years, married for four
years, and we have two kids. Everything in our relationship
is perfect for us. He's the best husband and father

(21:42):
to our kids that I could have asked for.
I'm absolutely in love with him and his actions and words have
always shown me that he feels the same way.
There's no better feeling than going to sleep in his arms every
night. Last weekend my husband and I
had some friends over and we were having a BBQ.
We were all outside in the backyard, surrounding my
backyard, surrounding my husbandwho was on the grill.

(22:03):
As the food got closer to being ready to eat, we all started
started sitting at our backyard table.
Once the food was already at thetable, my husband went inside to
use the washroom and get anothercase of beer.
I didn't realize that my best friend had followed him when he
was coming back out. My best friend hid behind the
wall separating our kitchen and living room and surprised him by

(22:26):
pulling him and forcing a kiss. My husband immediately pushed
her back and yelled what the fuck.
She immediately started crying and ran out of the house and
left. My husband came back into the
yard and asked to speak to me privately and immediately told
me what had just happened. I was shocked and told him that
would it be OK that we talked about it after everyone had
left. I managed to put in an

(22:47):
appearance for the next couple of hours, but I was mentally
distraught. After everyone left, my husband
sat me down and told me what happened and showed me the
footage from our living room camera.
It was exactly as my husband haddescribed it.
Wow. My best friend of 10 years, the
person who I treated as my literal sister, forcibly kissed
my husband after the third date with my husband.
After the third date with my husband, she was the one I told

(23:09):
I was going to marry him. She knows how much I love him
and how strong our relationship is, and she still chose to come
into the middle of it. For F's sake.
Our three-year old calls her auntie, my best friend tried
showing up the next day just to talk and my husband had to hold
me back from beating the shit out of her and he kicked her out
and told her not to come back. It's been almost a week now.

(23:29):
I'm nowhere close on moving on. I don't blame my husband, he's
completely innocent in this and if anything he's the victim.
I've been lying down on my husband's chest and just crying
every night. I'm so angry and frustrated I
don't know what to do. My husband has been amazing like
always. He just gets it, understands I'm
feeling but with flowers, blah blah blah blah.
Well, firstly, when she's like, it's almost like he is the

(23:53):
victim. If you flip that around and a
bloke did that to a female. It's.
Would be a very very different. It's like.
A story. Sexual assault it is.
Yeah. So.
But my question is like, was he giving her signals and then she
just decided to act on those signals?
You want to be given some prettystrong signals.

(24:15):
I don't know, like I'm not Privyto that information, but that's
pretty random for someone just to go out of the blue and kiss
someone like that. Yeah, but she might have been
drunk. She might have been building
this story up in her head and. Then she just don't.
Get. That in the road chair, but
anyway. I don't know, like if he had
been flirting with her, it wouldhave been very easy for him to

(24:37):
roll with that. Like very easy.
But knowing there was a camera there, maybe he was like fuck, I
need to go with the story. But you're OK.
So think about it like this. An instant response, if you had
been flirting with someone wouldn't be to push them away.

(24:58):
And if his instant response as shown on camera was to push her
away, I feel like he would have been just as shocked.
Would you hear what the girl, the friend has to say or would
you just cut? Her off for sure.
Well, yeah, I'm for sure if likeyou'd probably have a few
questions, but it doesn't changethe fact that what she did.

(25:23):
Was wrong. Yeah, you wouldn't be.
I wouldn't be maintaining that friendship.
She'd be gone. Either way, she gone.
She gone, she gone Hussey. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
thank you for tuning in again this week.
Remember, head over to our Instagram, ask us a few
questions and share some of the reels and snippets.

(25:45):
It helps the show grow. And what do we got coming up?
We got a interesting week. I've got a very deload week so
I've got 8 weeks until I run around America which is not that
far away getting. Nervous or you excited?
I'm excited like I feel very yesterday I ran 40 kilometers
super comfortably like feel great today.

(26:06):
So I just want to start to get it going now.
It's like 8 weeks is just like got to remain injury free and
record as many podcast episodes before we go, Yeah.
But it feed you something. Huh.
Yeah, let's go get a pizza. All right, thanks everybody.
And if you want to get first access to podcasts, don't forget
to sign up to patreonitspatreon.com/amy

(26:28):
Shepherd Pie. We'd love to see you over there.
And thank you to all of my current Patreon members.
Love you guys. You help us to continue to do
what we do. Exactly.
And one day we are going get a studio, and that day I feel like
we almost have to have a live party.
Yeah, like a virtual live party.That'd be awesome.
We're gonna have to like, that'son the that's on the vision
board. But as always, there is no as

(26:51):
always, hurry.
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