19. Fetch the Goodness: Grace for the Family That Doesn't Believe with Kellie Frazier (Part 2)

It's challenging to answer God's call to more when our family isn't on board, but that doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't do it.

In this episode of 'Courageous Retirement,' host Vona Johnson shares the inspiring journey of Kelly Frasier, who defied her family's skepticism to follow God's call. Fueled by faith and courage, Kelly overcame her fears and built a successful studio for her TV show Fetch the Goodness, which focuses on teaching children about God's identity and the fruits of the spirit. 

The discussion highlights the challenges of following one's spiritual path amidst doubt and disbelief from loved ones. Vona and Kelly emphasize the importance of grace, persistence, and accepting God's timing in fulfilling His purpose. They also discuss resources like 'Fetch the Goodness' and 'The Grace of Homeschooling' to support children and families in their spiritual education. 

00:00 Introduction: Embracing God's Unconventional Calls
00:22 Recap of Kelly Frasier's Journey
01:18 Facing Family Opposition
03:19 The Importance of Perseverance
06:09 Understanding the Prodigal Journey
10:18 Fetch the Goodness: Teaching Children About God
14:05 Final Thoughts and Upcoming Episodes

If you missed it, be sure to listen to Part 1: Redefining Courage Through Faith with Kellie Fraizer.

Scriptures referenced: Story of Noah and the Ark Genesis 6-8
Parable of the Prodigal Son Luke 15:11-32

Quotes by Kellie Fraizer: 
 "If we keep pointing to us, we're never going to be able to be pointing to him." 

" He (her husband) has his own walk in his own journey, just like everybody else does. And I have to respect that." 

" My battle was not with my children. It was with the enemy that was trying to take them out. That's who my battle was with."

Book Referenced in the show: 
Twelve Ordinary Men: How the Master Shaped His Disciples for Greatness, and What He Wants to Do with You by John MacArthur

Check out Fetch the Goodness: https://www.fetchthegoodness.com/

Download Grace for Homeschooling: https://www.fetchthegoodness.com/guide

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
There are times in life when Godis going to ask us to do
something that doesn't make alot of sense, and we're going to
feel a little crazy for doingit.
Even more importantly, there aretimes when our family and
friends are not going tounderstand, and they're going to
disagree wholeheartedly withwhat we do.
A lot of times, we will back offfrom our dreams because we want

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our family members to be all onboard.
Last episode, we talked to KellyFrasier and how she answered
God's call to more with doingsomething that was totally
against what I even thoughtcourageous retirement was all
about.
She shared with us how she hadto overcome her fears by doing
some really courageous things.
And by building that muscle, shewas able to go against even what

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her family thought was right.
Something the world would tellus we should not do.
She has a beautiful story of howGod helped her walk through that
journey and how things turnedaround.
And we're going to hear the restof that story today.
In this episode of courageousretirement, I hope you'll join
us for this incredibleincredible story.

Vona Johnson (01:00):
Do you fear what lies beyond retirement?
What if it's a gateway to a lifefilled with purpose, meaning,
and adventure rather than anend?
Discover peace and fulfillmentas you boldly enter this new
chapter in CourageousRetirement, a Christian podcast.
I'm your host, author and coach,Vona Johnson.
Let's get started.
It's one thing to have thecourage to go do these things

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and your neighbors thinkingyou're crazy and all the things,
but when we were talking before,I mean, you were, your studio
started out in your home and youhave this beautiful studio now,
but one of the obstacles wasyour family.
They were like, You've lost yourmind.
And it was compounded by thefact that you were all in with

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God and they weren't.
Can we talk about that?
And I'm sure there are peoplethat are listening to this who
also are dealing with, the factthat they have family members
that aren't believers.
And so they, they think we're alittle crazy when we do some of
the things, right?
Yeah.

Kellie Frasier (02:03):
No, they don't think we're a little crazy.
They think we're a lot crazy andthat's okay.
That's okay because God says,Jesus is very clear about this.
If you love me, the world willhate you.
He doesn't say the world may notlike you.
He says the world will hate you.
Okay.
So if you have not experienced alittle bit of that persecution,

(02:25):
then perhaps you might want toask God, you know, what is it
that I'm not doing that you wantme to be doing?
Because truly that is being adisciple of Jesus.
We're not the disciples allpersecuted.
You see what I'm saying?
So there is a difference betweenbeing a Christian and going to
church and then coming home andbeing a disciple and doing

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exactly the call on your lifeand the will of God.
There's a very big differencethere.
And we all get to decide wherewe're going to land on that.
Right.
So I think the power behind whatit is that you're asking is just
to know your family may not comealong with you.
That's okay.
Your friends may not come alongwith you.

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That's okay.
Just being able to get up in themorning and know what God's
called you to do.
And you say, today's your day,Lord, I'm doing whatever it is
you want me to do.
Show me.
Right.
And he shows you and you go andyou do, if you're doing that
every single day, think aboutNoah building the ark.
Okay.
As an example, everybody andtheir brother thought he was

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crazy.
Nobody wanted to come onto thatboat.
Nobody, his family comes ontothe boat.
Praise God that they didn't denyhim and say, no, you're crazy.
And, you know, I'm sure they didit first.
Think about that.
You know, God just laid it allout, told me that this is what
I'm going to do.
And he didn't tell him how longit was going to take.
Right.
So what I was saying earlier washere, we have this generation

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where we want everything quick,right?
But that's not God.
If, if things happen that fast,it may not be God.
And so you need to question thatspirit.
I'm not saying it's notpossible, but I am saying that
God's timeline is so differentthan ours.
We haven't even officiallylaunched Fetch the Goodness yet
because he's still building it.

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It took Noah 120, 20 years orsomething like that to build the
ark before it rained.
But what was the first thingthat he was telling the people?
Hey guys, I haven't done it yet,but it's going to rain.
And when it does, God wants youto get on this boat that I'm
about to build.
Are you crazy?
It hasn't been raining hereforever.
What are you talking about?

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What boat are you going to bebuilding?
You know?
So now they see him buildingthis massive boat on his
property, I'm assuming.
And now it does begin to rainafter 120 years, but it took
that long.
That.
Is what God does.
He will set you out on a pathand it may not happen overnight.
If you are an overnight success,like fetch, the goodness was

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fetch.
The goodness was an overnightsuccess.
And the first year, right?
What happened to it?
God did not want man to get theglory for that.
God wants himself to get theglory for these things.
Why people can come into thekingdom that way.
If we keep pointing to us, we'renever going to be able to be
pointing to him.
And therefore kids.

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adults will never get into thekingdom that way.
So we have to point to the gloryof God.

Vona Johnson (05:22):
Very

Kellie Frasier (05:22):
good.

Vona Johnson (05:24):
But we didn't talk about the family.

Kellie Frasier (05:28):
Well, I kind of did because I, about the, they,
you know, they thought I wascrazy.
They didn't want anything to dowith me because that is the,
That's what they felt, you know,for the longest time today.
I have a great relationship withthem, except one of them.
Uh, I have three children by theway, and a husband, and we've
been married for 43 years thisyear, I think it is.
but yeah, he did not have thesame belief or the same depth

(05:51):
of, of, you know, level ofloyalty, I guess, to God that I
had.
And, and look, this is not a,well, let me just tell you I'm
up here and he's down here.
No, he has his own walk in hisown journey, just like everybody
else does.
And I have to respect that.
Now, when.
your children, when you'reraising your children, if they

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turn their back on God, that isnot on you.
That is their choice to do.
And if they turn their back onGod and, and you now have dubbed
them the, the, what, what's the,what's the phrase when a child
turns it back and runs away?
The boy who came back to hisdad.
The prodigal son.
So.
You know, when children turntheir back on God, they become
in your mind, like the prodigalson or the prodigal daughter.

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I don't look at them that way.
I look at them as they're ontheir own journey.
Jesus gave us an example of whatit looks like when a prodigal
son or daughter comes back.
Right.
But I don't go after them.
The dad never went after them.
I let them be for as long asthey needed so that the Holy
Spirit could work on them.
I do my prayer battle on myknees or on my face, depending

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on, you know, how I pray.
Um, that's where God tells us todo our warring.
It is warfare, spiritual warfarewhile we're here.
And so my battle was not with mychildren.
It was with the enemy that wastrying to take them out.
That's who my battle was with.
And so now, like I said, Afteryears, guys, years, it takes

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sometimes for your children tocome back, but don't run after
them.
Don't try to, you know, poundJesus over their head.
You cannot do that.
We as a body of believers havegot to just come under them and
love them the best we know howto do.
Will we offend them?
I'm quite certain we will.
Jesus offended people too.
So we just have to understandthat it is part of our journey

(07:42):
and it's part of their journey.

Vona Johnson (07:44):
I love that so much.
Wow.
Because, Yeah, so many peoplewe'll use anger and all kinds of
things to try and convince theirlove.
Manipulation.
Yes.
And, and no, no one was evershouted into becoming a
believer.
So no, I, I really love that.

(08:06):
And, and honestly, I, that'spart of my journey.
I mean, I, I can wear the labelof a prodigal daughter.
I was always a, I always lovedGod, but I didn't put him first
in my life and I put a lot ofother things there and um, I'm
just grateful that he was therewhen I, when I came back.

(08:27):
Right.

Kellie Frasier (08:28):
Don't you think we're all prodigal at some
point?

Vona Johnson (08:30):
Yeah.
I think so.
I really think so.
That's a good point.
Yes.

Kellie Frasier (08:34):
And look at the disciples.
Not a single one of themunderstood what Jesus was there
for, right?
So I'm pretty sure that we areall labeled prodigal at some
point.
And that story was not for aprodigal child.
It was for all of us whoeventually come to God and he
throngs us with this beautifulcoat and all the fatted calf and

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every bit of what joy and lovehe wants to pour onto us.
That's my perspective of thatstory.
But most people look at it as,oh, they're the prodigal

Vona Johnson (09:03):
child.
Very good point.
Very good point.
You know, it's funny.
Um, I just listened to the book12 ordinary men by, I think it's
John MacArthur.
Have you read that?

Kellie Frasier (09:17):
I have seen and heard bits and pieces of it, and
it, again, I get chills.
I mean, it's powerful.

Vona Johnson (09:24):
I will listen again, because it is so
powerful, and it's such a hugereminder that those, those
apostles, were humans.
They were fallible.
They all came at it fromdifferent places and they
doubted and they had questionsand they sinned and, and yeah,

(09:44):
um, I highly recommend that bookto anyone that's thinking,
questioning.
No, it doesn't even matter.
Everybody who believes shouldjust listen to that just because
he digs so deeply into how Godhas a place for all of us.
Regardless of our background.
So, so that's pretty incredible.

(10:04):
So I think.
Believe it or not, I think we'vecovered, all of the questions
that, that I had for you today.
And I am just so grateful thatyou took the time to come and
share your journey.
What I'd like to do now is haveyou tell the listeners about
Fetch the Goodness and how theymight be able to find it,

(10:28):
whether they are, I mean, ifthey're listening to Courageous
Retirement.
They're, you know, it'sprobably, they aren't going to
have littles at home, but theyhave littles in their lives.
They have little people thatneed to know Jesus.
So tell us, tell us how they canfind, fetch the goodness.

Kellie Frasier (10:45):
Well thank you.
First of all, I want to honoryou for what you're doing.
I really value everything thatyou are doing to reach the
people that are in our agecategory.
who, who think that life is overnow, you know, it is so not as
long as you're breathing, Godcan use you no matter what.
So thank you very much for doingthat.
I think that's beautiful.
Um, so fetch the goodness trulyis to teach the children, the

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goodness of God, and it's tohelp them with their identity.
Now we all know what's beengoing on with a child's
identity.
All right.
And so their identity right nowis like up and down, right?
You can be a cat, you can be adog, you can be a boy, you can
be a girl.
And When, when we see the powerof fetch, the goodness, when the
children watch the TV shows, orthey listen to the curriculum,

(11:31):
um, animated cartoons, orthey're working on the
curriculum itself, they'relearning, not just about who God
is, but about who they are.
And they come out of thisthinking about the selfishness
of what, what I want, what Ineed.
Right.
They, they learn that this is apart of pride.
So the things that we teach arerepentance, salvation, and the

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fruits of the spirit, each oneof them, because I think I did
not understand this when I wasgrowing up, that those fruits of
the spirit are fruits of God'sspirit, not the spirit, but
God's spirit.
And so when you start to realizethat you start to Take on his
personality, right?

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And that's what we're supposedto do.
It says to imitate God, right?
So that's why those things wereso important.
And God, again, he was the onewho laid it out, not us.
And so my entire team, all we'refocused on right now is building
the community that we have bothlocal because our TV studio is
local here in South Carolina.
And then we have a communitythat we're building online.

(12:36):
So if you go to fetch thegoodness.
com F E T C H, the goodness, G OO D N E S S, dot com, you will
find there, exactly what it isthat we're doing.
Now we are, focused on thecurriculum there, but we also
have a free book that they canget.
And this book is so beautiful.
It's called The Grace ofHomeschooling.

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Now think about that.
The grace of homeschooling.
I'm not, I'm not here toencourage everyone to homeschool
because not everyone wants tohomeschool.
But if you know someone in yourlife who is thinking about
homeschooling because of what ishappening in our school systems
today, this is a fabulous way toget them to start.
So all you would have to do isgo to fetch the goodness.

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com forward slash grace.
And that's where they would findthe book.
And that's free.
You could just download it andit's awesome.

Vona Johnson (13:27):
Oh, that's wonderful.
Well, thank you so much forexplaining that and, and for
that offer for people to get thebook.
I'm sure that there will bepeople that would love to, to
see that I'm, I'm excited to seeit.
And I have no intention ofhomeschooling, but I appreciate
the fact that there are peoplethat recognize that what's
happening in our schools is, isnot, it's not in alignment with

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what God's will is and, and weneed to get back.
And yeah, I can't imagine how,um, rewarding homeschooling can
be if, if we do it with God'shelp.
That's so, so wonderful.
Thank you for that.
Is there any last message thatyou would like to we close out
today?

Kellie Frasier (14:14):
So I'm just asking Holy Spirit, actually.
Just that the grace of God isthe goodness of God.
And if you don't know the graceof God, and it's really just
accepting the gift of grace, um,then you will probably have a
hard time believing in hisgoodness.
You may see him as an angry God.

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And that is not who he is.
But does he have anger?
Absolutely.
He has jealousy.
He has anger.
He tells us about that.
Right.
But I think if we miss the gracethat God can give to us as a
free gift, a free gift, all wehave to do is receive it.
We're, we're going to be hardpressed to do God's will because

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we will not see him as good andwe won't see the grace as his
goodness.
And so the two are synonymousand it's a beautiful journey.
Once you can receive that, ittook a long time for me to
receive it.
So I understand how it can bechallenging, but just take a
moment to just get still so thatyou'll know God's grace is for
you.

Vona Johnson (15:17):
That is so beautiful and a wonderful way to
wrap up this conversation.
I have just been so blessed bythe time we've spent here
together.

Kellie Frasier (15:28):
very much.
Yeah.
Appreciate it.
so many wonderful words ofwisdom in this conversation with
Kelly, I hope you were able tocatch both episodes.
If you have not caught the firstepisode with Kelly, I encourage
you to go back and listen tothat as.
She just shared so many biblicaltruth there and so much
encouragement on how we cananswer God's call for more.

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I want to thank you for stoppingby.
I know that your time isprecious and it means a lot that
you're here.
Two weeks from now.
We're going to do something alot different than anything else
we've done.
I'm going to interview a womanand we're going to learn about a
new hobby.
That's.
Kind of been around for a longtime, but this woman is putting
a special emphasis for women.
Not that guys don't do it orcan't do it, or can't listen to

(16:14):
this episode.
But she's going to just open upkind of a whole new concept.
So it's going to be.
Like I said different, but it'salso going to be fun.
And I think it's another waythat we can live in courageous
retirement.
I look forward to seeing youback here then until then engage
your faith live your more andreap the benefits of courageous
retirement.