October 27, 2025 • 49 mins
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If your skin routine feels like guesswork, consider this your map. We sat down with Cintia from our Winter Park team to break down what actually moves the needle: a smart starting point with our signature facial, the clarifying power of Hydrafacial (yes, including the oddly satisfying gunky jar), and why dermaplaning plus a mild acid can unlock the smoothest, brightest version of your skin without irritation.
From there, we dive into Fire & Ice for that no-downtime “reset” that tackles dullness and texture while giving you the calm, hands-on touch people crave. We explore cryofacials and how controlled cold boosts circulation, oxygenation, and de-puffing—great for reactive skin and pre-event lift. Then we zoom out to body with cryo contouring, using cold-induced apoptosis to slim stubborn zones like abdomen, thighs, flanks, arms, and under-chin, especially when combined with healthy habits and complementary body tech.
We go deep on chemical peels—how multi-acid blends target different layers for dark spots, fine lines, and roughness—and explain why fall and winter are prime peel seasons. And yes, we make the case for microneedling with SkinPen: customizable depth, Fitzpatrick-inclusive, potent for melasma and scars, and a perfect partner for exosomes to speed recovery and amplify results. Finally, we ground it all with the 80/20 homecare rule. Professional treatments are 20%; the other 80% is you using proven actives—think stable vitamin C, multi-weight hyaluronic, daily SPF, and heavy hitters like TNS—to lock in gains and keep your skin performing.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:15):
Hello and welcome to another episode of Couture
Conversations.
I'm your host, Lindsay, leadesthetician here at Kator Med
Spa.
And in this episode, I am joinedby Cynthia, one of our amazing
estheticians out of our winterpark location at Kator Medspa.
And today, Cynthia and I aregoing to be deep diving into all
of the uh spa services that weoffer here at Kator Medspa.
(00:39):
So let's get started.
Hi.
Welcome back, Cynthia.
Thank you.
Thanks for joining me foranother episode.
SPEAKER_00 (00:45):
I love it.
Always my pleasure.
SPEAKER_01 (00:47):
So we offer a lot of things at Couture.
So we're just going to kind ofgo down the list of the
different services that weoffer, different treatments.
Yeah, so we'll start with oursignature couture facial.
So what would you say makes acivic signature couture facial
special to Couture and a greatplace to start for new clients?
SPEAKER_00 (01:07):
It's a great introduction.
You know, we we get a lot ofgirls and guys, once again, that
come in and maybe have never hada facial in their whole life,
you know.
Um, it's a great way tointroduce good treatments.
You know, if you're doingsomething or I'll tell someone,
hey, listen, this is gonna be,this is your couture.
(01:30):
This is given to you in yourmembership.
You're an empowered tieredmembership.
This is gonna be given to youevery single month.
And in the beginning, let'sstart off with that.
I want to see how your skinreacts, how you do with most of
the ingredients that we have, alot of active ingredients, which
I think is fabulous.
Cause when you go to these othertreatments that we do have,
(01:52):
ingredients is the main keycomponent.
It's, you know, what is going tobe active enough to go in and
give you the results that you'reyou you never thought you can
get.
So it's a good introduction toseeing how well your skin does
with certain ingredients.
Um, do we need to focus on moreon one or the other?
Um, oh, you know, looking atyour skin, I'm I'm feeling like
(02:15):
you should be using this andthat.
And don't forget, when you leavehere today, you should be
scheduling your IPL, you know.
But it's it's nice.
It gets, I have never hadsomeone tell me they did not
like a facial, period.
So I love those ones.
We call them the virgins thatcome in and they're like, I've
never had someone touch my face,I've never done extractions.
(02:38):
And it's a good way to introduceeverything else that couture is
going to be offering you.
So it's it's a good way to seehow your skin even reacts.
And especially for someone whodoesn't even do a lot to their
face, doing a couture is likeamazing.
It's amazing.
And I tell people it will prepyou to get even better results
(02:59):
with your blade of lasers.
You're going in for yourfractionals, you're going in for
your IPLs.
It it marries each other sobeautifully.
So just being able to get thatand not think about it, just be
like, oh, I'm just gonna do acouture today.
It's it's it's awesome.
I there are wonderful activeingredients.
There's so many great productsthat we use within our couture
(03:20):
that gives people what they wantand then pushes them to say, Oh
my gosh, my skin looks so good.
Imagine if I did a hydrofacialor if I did this.
Um, so it's a good introductionfor everybody and anybody.
SPEAKER_01 (03:32):
So for anyone listening who doesn't know if
they've never had what'sinvolved in the couture facial.
SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
So when I tell a patient, you know, this is what
we're gonna do, this is aprotocol.
We're gonna double cleanse.
We have two different cleansers,and once we're done with that,
we're gonna apply an exfoliator,nice, good, active, different
ingredients.
Once again, all different tieredacids that are gonna come in.
We're gonna do a nice lymphaticmassage with some steam.
We're gonna get your lymphsworking, we're gonna get a lot
(03:57):
of fluid away from the face, andwe're gonna, you know, we're
gonna give you a nice brightercomplexion.
And then from there, we're gonnatake that off.
We're gonna look under the lamp.
I'm gonna do extractions, we'regonna look at areas that really
tend you're never gonna be ableto see yourself.
Um, and then we'll go intoapplying your great products.
So after you're all nice andclean, we're gonna do a good eye
(04:21):
cream, we have a good vitamin Cserum, a hyaluronic, a
moisturizer, and obviously, nomatter what, if it's not sunny,
people are like, well, it'scloudy.
I'm like, oh, but the rays arestill there, girl.
We need the sun, so it's there.
We're putting on your sunblock.
Um, so usually that's that'skind of what I give them their
411.
Once I tell them that, theythey'll always know what they're
(04:43):
gonna get and they look forwardto it.
They love it.
unknown (04:45):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
So let's back it up for a second because it kind of
jumped ahead.
What is the importance ofmonthly facials?
Why are they important?
Unfortunately, we all get old,you know.
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
Darn it.
Um, you never realize in your20s a lot of things that start
to alter, right?
We start making, you know, westop really having that collagen
synthesis production, ourelastin fibers start to loosen.
You know, you need all those.
You don't just need collagen,you need elastin.
You you need, it's like I callit the youthful basket.
(05:20):
And once that starts to go, alot of other things, right?
Like our internal lipidproduction, our hyaluronic, all
of that starts to go away.
And then even our cell turnover.
As we get older, I think what isit, every 20 days, we're
supposed to have good, freshskin.
Our body lifts it up, sheds itoff, and then we've got nice,
(05:40):
healthy, glowing skinunderneath.
Well, that starts to go as weget older.
And so this is a really good wayto tell your body to do
something that maybe for thelast 10 years it wasn't really
doing, is so important is cellrenewal.
You need to wake the body up andsay, hey, let's go in, let's put
(06:01):
in some good protein peptidesand let's make some good,
healthy cells again.
So cell renewal out ofeverything is the most important
benefit that you'll get with afacial every single month.
SPEAKER_01 (06:13):
Okay, so we're gonna move on to I know one of your
favorite facials.
So hydrofacials are they're verypopular, they've been around for
a while.
Yeah.
So if you can just describe tolisteners what hydrofacial is,
what it does, who it's good for,and why you and your clients
love it so much.
SPEAKER_00 (06:31):
I'll tell you, the thing is like never turned off.
And especially for someone toowho's like new and they try it
for the first time, they justand it's nice because at the end
you kind of get to see all thatgood stuff.
So it really entails with onceagain, Hydrofacial is keen on
using really good activeingredients, and every step
(06:52):
hones in on a certainingredient.
So you've got this machinethat's gonna use what we call
vortex fusion, and you've gotall these different tips that
kind of maneuver these acids togo into the skin, really
liquefying.
In the beginning, I'll say, Hey,listen, we're gonna do your
cleanser.
This has got a lot ofglucosamine.
What does glucosamine do?
It comes in and we call it thehorny horny layer.
(07:13):
It breaks up that glue that yourskin cannot just easily shed
sometimes, and you need somekind of mechanical manipulation.
Um, so you're gonna getglucosamine for your cleansing
part.
And it really is great becauseevery time you're taking that
wand and you're touching theskin, it is literally using
(07:36):
fresh ingredients.
You're gonna you know, somethere are some products out
there or some machines that willkind of stay stagnant in in the
solution they use, or might bejust one solution.
And we have multiple solutions.
So every time I tell peopleyou're feeling solution on the
skin, it's new, fresh solution.
And we take that impurities andwe put it in the back of the
(07:58):
chamber.
And so it's so nice because youfeel this fresh, clean.
Some people are like, I feelfive pounds lighter, you know,
and it's so nice.
But every step is so great.
Your cleansing part is yourglucosamine, you know.
Then we go into, which is greatbecause we give a booster.
So there are some places thatyou're gonna have to pay for
your boosters, you know.
(08:20):
We give you a booster.
We do your glycal, that's 7.5%glycolic acidity.
And it's wonderful because nowyou're incorporating glucosamine
that's gonna really start toshed and create a good way of
now introducing otheringredients, your glycolic.
And then we go into extractionswhere we go in a little bit more
(08:41):
stronger.
And now we're using a salicylic.
And it's really what I'll say topeople is really liquefying your
sebaceous filaments.
What sometimes we don't reallyeven notice.
And the end of a sebaceousfilament life, I always say, is
blockhead.
It's just whatever's on thesurface, oxidizes, and it has to
be there for quite some time.
(09:02):
And then from there, I'll tellpeople we're gonna neutralize
all these acids.
We're done.
We're done using those.
Now your skin is ready to takeon some hyaluronic rich peptide
serums.
And so we go into a serum andthen we set it with a red light
therapy treatment.
It, whether it's blue light,someone's suffering from acne.
I love it because there are somany different elements that you
(09:24):
can really use the hydrofacialfor, whether someone's just
looking to just have a cleanfeeling, um, someone's looking
to feel super hydrated.
I do it a lot.
I get a lot of girls that weprep them.
The last thing they do beforetheir wedding is a hydrofacial.
We're gonna do a hydrofacial, orthey'll do a photo shoot.
They're gonna be on acommercial.
(09:44):
Hydrofacial is gonna be one ofthose things.
It's it's amazing.
It's been around for a while andit's kept its integrity.
I have to say, Hydrofacial isone of those companies that I'm
so proud to say has always keptits integrity.
Their quality is amazing and itshows every single time because
we are always constantly doinghydrofacials.
(10:05):
It's just the way it is.
And it works great when you'redoing lasers.
Someone's done a fractional,they feel super rough.
You know, once again, we're alittle older, our skin's not
shedding, but we've done thisablative laser, and now you need
something to get in there andexfoliate.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
Hydrofacial is one of those things, it's it's
amazing, and it's great becauseit exfoliates without being
harsh or aggressive.
SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
Yes, yeah.
I would say probably the onlyperson that wouldn't be a
candidate would be someone who'sgot like a lot of what we call
Kupero skin, right?
Like 80% of your faces withbroken capillaries.
Well, guess what?
That's not gonna really happentoo much.
We have other elements offacials that we'll do alongside
with saying, hey, we're gonna dosome IPLs.
But really, 98% of all ourpatients absolutely love
(10:48):
hydrofacial.
SPEAKER_01 (10:50):
Yeah, Cindy has a lot of hydrofacials.
SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah.
It's awesome.
And I love doing them.
It's so much fun to see in theback.
SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
And then she's like, oh my god, that was such a skin.
Tell them a little bit about thegunky jar.
SPEAKER_00 (11:00):
What so once you get done, what we say is like we
trap like about an ounce worthof fluid.
And it's so much fun to see inthe back because you get to see
all these like dense blackheadsthat are like sunk to the
bottom, and then you see all theyou know, the lighter density
ones that are just floatingaround with hair and like, you
(11:22):
know, once again, it'sbaceousfilaments.
It gets all creamy and chunky.
It's like it's amazing.
Some people are like, uh ew.
And I'm like, this is fabulous.
I love it.
Um, so it's cool because it'snot like, well, she told me that
it's gonna suction this.
It's like I'm gonna show you.
And nine times out of ten, theyare always shocked with how much
(11:44):
comes out of their face thatthey don't even realize.
You know, I'm like, you you'rehere this morning.
You told me you washed your facelast night.
You washed it kind of now.
And I always do a nice littlequick cleanse before I do it,
but it is an unbelievable howmuch we can still trap to the
unseen naked eye that is stillthere lingering, even with a
(12:06):
cleanse.
So it's it's it's just an extraincentive to see better results.
Once again, I will always saywith your lasers.
I'm a big laser girl.
So, you know, it's like do yourlasers and then come see me, or
come see me and then do yourlasers.
So it's like back and forth.
So it's awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (12:25):
Okay, so dermoplaning.
SPEAKER_00 (12:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:29):
Describe to us what dermoplaning is.
SPEAKER_00 (12:31):
Dermoplaning is so funny because some people are
like, Am I gonna grow back likeChewbacca?
And I'm like, no, baby girl.
It's called phallus hairs.
We have them when we're born.
We probably needed them morethan a century ago for some
reason.
But it's a very, very mildexfoliating treatment.
And I say more not chemically,but mechanically, because now
(12:52):
you're taking a surgical blade,which I will tell a lot of
people, I'm like, that's not adermoplane blade.
That's just a little razor.
But that's okay.
And then once they get a feel oflike what professionally really
you do with it, it's just somuch better.
But you know, you you have asurgical blade, you're going at
a 45 degree angle, and inalongside with some people
(13:14):
saying, Well, it's just my bellyhairs are so much more than
that, you're taking off thatfirst layer of your stratum
corneum.
And it's nice because onceagain, once you're done with
that, now you've got this freshskin popping up, right?
You got all these live skincells that are showing.
Almost not saying like you'restripping your microbiome, but
now anything you're gonna put onafterwards is gonna be so
(13:35):
beneficial.
So it's it allows better productpenetration.
Once again, before weddings,that's what I do.
I pair it with a hydrofacial.
So we're gonna do mechanicallyand we're gonna do chemical
exfoliation.
And it's the best of both worldsbecause some people are like, I
thought you weren't allowed todo double exfoliation.
I go, that's a lie.
(13:56):
It just depends on what you do.
You know, you're not gonna doappeal and then do a
hydrofacial.
No, but dermaplaning comes inthere and just allows the skin
to just be smoother and justhave more of a radiant look to
itself.
So it is, it's it's anotherpopular thing that I do too.
And I I will say withhydrofacial, I pair that a lot.
(14:17):
A lot.
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
Oh, yeah.
I love hydrofacial and dermaplaning together.
The best glow you'll ever see.
It's so good.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
And some people are like, how is this possible?
I'm like, once again, it justshows you how much of a stagnant
layer that we have that's reallynot doing anything.
And when you're putting productson, depending on the activity of
those ingredients, you're notgonna get anywhere.
So this is a great way withouthaving chemicals, because you
know, some people they get kindof scared with using certain
(14:45):
chemicals, but this is a greatway, once again, to introduce
with a couture facial too, withsomeone who's never really had a
facial.
It's just one of those thingsthat's amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
Yeah, I always tell everyone like your skin is gonna
feel like a baby's bottom.
It really is.
It's so smooth.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
It is.
SPEAKER_01 (15:02):
Although everyone wants to touch their face right
after, and I'm like, don't touchit with your touch or clean
face.
SPEAKER_00 (15:06):
No, girl, I'm the only one that's allowed to touch
you right now.
You know, it's only me.
Um, but they do, they love it.
Once again, I've never hadsomeone even in that element to
tell me, like, I hated it.
There's just there's just no wayyou can hate it.
There's just benefits to it.
Another good thing with dermaplaning is you can pair it with
so much, so many other things,you know.
(15:30):
Um, you can do dermaplaning andcryo, dermoplaning and
hydrofacial, you know.
Um some instances, depending onthe peel, you can do that too,
depending if it's a more mild,right?
Yeah, more of your AHAs is ismore of a safe route.
But another one I love too.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
You kind of touched on it, but can you explain the
difference between like thoselittle twinkle razors that
people use and say they use athome compared to what we use in
the treatment room?
SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
It's just a different element.
The what is it?
The surgical blade is like 100%stainless steel.
And think about what a surgicalblade is meant to do.
It's really meant to be used insurgeries to cut people, but in
a way that's so precise that itis such a sharp blade that you
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don't really have to worry withwhat we called lagging.
And then here I am, we'recutting you up, we're slicing
and dicing rather than themanufacturing way.
Unfortunately, of just like acheap little twinkle blade is
not gonna give you what youneed.
You're you're not gonna get theright, the right way of
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eliminating your stratum cornea,you know.
It's like, listen, that twinklething that was meant for your
brows, girl.
That was meant for your brows,you know, it's not meant for
your full face.
So there's a reason why we'llalways say you should always see
a professional, you know, and Iget it.
There's someone doing it rightnow in their house.
They're looking and just goingat it.
But I get those girls, but whenthey see the element of really
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truly using a professionalsurgical blade in the momentum
of someone professionally doingit, it's a totally different
result you get.
So I I try to educate peopleonce again.
I I can't knock you for what youdo.
You know, if that's what youwant to do, then that's that's
fine.
But it's great because even withour facial, it comes with a
mask.
So when we're stripping yourmicrobiome, now we're gonna go
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in and we're gonna put some someonce again some good ingredients
into there.
So you're gonna be left with anice smooth skin, but you're
gonna be hydrated.
So I try to not be mean topeople.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
All we can do is educate them.
That's it.
Once again, this is thedifference.
Yeah, take take with it what youwill.
Absolutely.
That's what we're there for.
All right, this is one of mypersonal favorite visuals.
Um, fire and ice visuals.
SPEAKER_00 (17:51):
Yes, fire and ice.
I remember when I first startedwith Couture and I was like,
excuse me, you do fire and ice?
I love fire and ice.
Fire and ice is so it's just,you know, people get afraid
because they're like, fire is myface gonna burn.
It's like, well, here's thething you're gonna feel
activity.
(18:12):
It's just the way that it is.
Um, you're using botanicalacids, right?
Which I think some of it is likeyou you almost smell that
cinnamon a little bit.
Oh, it smells every personcomments.
SPEAKER_01 (18:22):
Oh, it smells so good, right?
Smells like fall.
SPEAKER_00 (18:25):
Yes, it does.
And it's it's just one of thoseelements that people love.
But you get um, what is it?
Uh glycolic, lactic, and yourbotanical acid.
SPEAKER_01 (18:34):
I think it has a tiny bit of retinol in it, too.
SPEAKER_00 (18:37):
Retinol, a little, yeah.
It's got the retinol in there,which I feel like a combination
of those, once again, youactivate it with steam.
Oh, okay.
So it gives you that little bitof intensity.
And I'll tell people listen, 60seconds is all you need.
This will start to go away.
And really what you're feelingis is just a lot of those acids
breaking down, you know, thatbarrier that we want to get
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past.
So then we can do what we needto do.
Fire and ice is great.
It's, you know, I've I've dealtwith their products for a long
time and their protocols.
And I get a lot of my girls who,when they super feel stagnant
with their skin, they feel dull.
You know, that dullness whereyou're just like, I feel so
blah.
(19:20):
It's almost like I want someoneto punch me just to bring blood
flow to my face.
Fire and Ice will give you that.
And it's nice because you know,you got the fiery part and then
you got the ice part.
So you got these like, you know,you it's a contraindication, but
in a good way.
SPEAKER_01 (19:35):
What does the ice part include?
SPEAKER_00 (19:36):
The ice part includes a nice cooling mask,
right?
It has a little bit of a mentholinto it.
It's got hyaluronic.
And then what I like to do iswith a nice um, those ice
globes.
I love them.
It's so great.
It reduces so much inflammationto the skin.
But then once again, it helpswith just smoothing texture.
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I love fire knife when it comesto that.
When I think of fire and ice, Ithink of texture.
I think of pore size, and Ithink even sometimes a little
bit of that underlyingcongestion, you know, when
you're not acneic, but you'relooking and you're like, why do
I look so uneven and bumpy?
Oh, that is your skin tellingyou you need a good form of
exfoliating.
And fire and ice will do that.
(20:19):
It's it's a great way.
It's it, I tell people it mimicsa chemical peel without the
downtime of a chemical peel,which is nice because you can
work out afterwards, you can putyour makeup on.
You're not really hindered witha lot.
Rather than if you are gonna bedoing microneedling or a
chemical peel, there's a littlebit of downtime, but that's
that's the cost of it.
(20:39):
You you already know ahead oftime what you're gonna be doing.
Yeah.
So fire nice is one of thosetwo.
I still get my a lot of my OGgirls that every month are like
fire and ice, fire and ice, andI love it.
SPEAKER_01 (20:51):
Yeah.
I love fire and ice because forme, it's the I don't want to say
the one, but it's one of thefacials that's probably also the
most relaxing because itinvolves a lot of hands-on
touch.
So when I get those clients thatI know, yes, they want a good
resurfacing treatment, they wantsomething, some change in their
skin, but they I know the one, Iknow my ones that love to relax.
(21:15):
Like I want to be touched.
They want you to massage them.
Fire nice is my goodness.
SPEAKER_00 (21:20):
Yeah, and I like it too because like, well, mask is
included into it.
Yeah, but I I have noticed withpeople, like if you're getting a
facial, you just want to betouched.
SPEAKER_01 (21:29):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (21:30):
Right.
Meanwhile, the ones that alreadyknow what time it is when they
come in for the micronatal ainand stuff, you ain't gonna be
touched.
Yeah, you know, it's a littlebit spread in a different way,
you know.
Um, but once again, fire and iceis just one of those that I
don't think will ever go awayfor us.
No, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:47):
It's a staple.
SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:50):
So something that's a little bit new to Katoire,
we've only been offering thesefor since January.
Yeah.
Um, so our cryofacials.
Um, so what are some cryofacialsand how are they a little bit
different and unique fromanything else that we offer?
SPEAKER_00 (22:06):
You're thinking of temperature.
You know, the body does somecrazy things when you're under
extreme temperatures, whetherit's super hot or super cold.
But what a great way to say,hey, we're gonna use extreme
coldness to dilate your bloodvessels and make you have a
better blood flow.
(22:27):
Because a better blood flowbrings so much other benefits to
you and increases oxygen.
And oxygen is so good for thecells.
That's why you hear all thesefacials about oxygenated facial,
oxygenated mask.
Cryo does that.
And you can manipulate it to doa lot of different things too,
whether it's you want to contourthe face, you want to do a lot
(22:48):
of tightening and lifting, um,you want to diminish pore size,
you want to hone in on fatcells.
So, which we'll probably getinto that.
But with the cryofacial, it's sonice.
Every girl that's come in, weuse a fermion peptide that goes
along with it, which is a greatconductor to allow to reach a
certain temperature to staythere and get those results.
(23:11):
So, once again, even like mysuper older women who once
again, you know, blood flowmight not be at its prime for
them.
This is gonna really allow forthat.
Um, and they love that too.
I have done cryos right before,which is even nice too, before
uh a wedding, because there'snot that contraindication of
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this downtime or being like, ohmy gosh, she was so red.
Like, this is totally different.
You have a little bit ofrosacea, you've got some
cooperal skin.
What's cooperal skin?
You know, blood vessels that arenot doing anything, they're
dead, they're gone.
So let's make sure the ones thatyou do have or your body's
creating is that we want to getthat blood flow going through
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there.
And and cryofacial will do that.
So, once again, a lot ofbenefits with the cryofacial.
It's it's a win-win, you know,not a lot of contraindications
with that, which I like.
It's it's it's one of thosethat's safe with giving you your
quality benefits of it as well.
SPEAKER_01 (24:11):
So you slightly mentioned it.
So while we're yeah, on on theuh topic of cryo, um, not face
related, but we also do um bodycontouring with our cryotherapy.
So if you can go dive into alittle bit more of that part of
it.
SPEAKER_00 (24:26):
Body is fun too.
Cause then, like, yay, I get tosee my body contouring member
girl.
I know it switches it up for us.
It is nice.
It's great because it's like,and once again, I get to see
some guys and girls that uhmaybe are not in a certain
tiered membership where they gettheir facials.
Um I love, I love it.
It's it's nice.
You're honing in on an area,which we can do multiple areas.
(24:49):
Some people are like, I want theback of my thighs because of
cellulite, or I want mybuttocks, once again, for
cellulite, um, arms, chin,stomach, flanks.
There's so many different areas,but you're honing in once again
on a certain pattern.
You're gonna go in with extremelow temperatures, and you're
taking these fat cells andputting them to a stage called
(25:12):
apoptosis, where you'reundergoing natural cell death.
That's pretty much what it is.
You're killing off these cells.
If you've ever heard of truesculpt, no, is it not true
sculpt?
Um, cool sculpting.
Cool sculpting.
It's the same concept.
Um you're you're wanting to geta certain amount of fat cells
that want to go into apoptosis.
(25:32):
So then what your body does isit takes all these dead fat
cells, put it into lymphatic,and really starts to work
through the body for you.
And I'll tell people you'regonna urinate all this stuff out
without really noticing it.
It will take, it can take weeksor months, depending on the
person, right?
If there's someone that maybedoesn't really work out too much
or they just don't work out alot a lot, then I'll say you it
(25:56):
might take you a little longer.
But the results that we'vegotten from it has been
phenomenal.
And it's nice because now youget it into your body
contouring, which I get a girlwho who flies all the way from
Louisiana to come in to do her Msculpt and her vanquish and her
her cryo, and she loves it.
(26:18):
I mean, she's willing to take aflight once a month to come here
to do that.
Um, so it's just a nice littleextra element of giving you the
results you need with alreadydoing those other two, which is
your vanquish and your M sculpt.
So I'll always say it.
I love body contouring.
Probably the most popular isstomach and thighs, right?
(26:42):
Stomach and thighs.
And you know, flanks too, butreally those people are like, oh
my God, I'm seeing results.
It's so awesome.
Because you're already takinginitiative, right?
Once again, I tell people like,hey, listen, you can't come in
and do your cryo and need a andeat a burger later.
Better be a veggie burger, youknow, with no bun, you know.
So they really do take thatextra initiative.
(27:05):
And I felt I do feel I'm sohappy.
I love the cryo treatments thatwe have, and it gives a little
extra push.
SPEAKER_01 (27:12):
Okay, so one of another, well, they're all our
favorites, but I I always sayCynthia's my peel girl.
SPEAKER_00 (27:18):
So man.
SPEAKER_01 (27:20):
Chemical peels.
SPEAKER_00 (27:21):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (27:22):
So yes, break down why chemical peels are so
effective and why I know youlove chemical peels.
SPEAKER_00 (27:27):
Gosh, they've been around for so long.
SPEAKER_01 (27:29):
They're tried and true.
SPEAKER_00 (27:31):
They really are, and and they're not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (27:33):
They won't.
SPEAKER_00 (27:34):
You know, if you have a skincare company and you
don't incorporate a peel, whoare you?
Get out of here, get out, justgo.
I love it.
Remember, I'm like a TCA girlall the way.
Cynthia.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
She loves when I say Cynthia loves her appeal, she
loves her appeal.
SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
I was like, Yeah, I want you to come out, and I'm
like, my goal is for you to havefive days of peeling down time.
Like, seriously.
But we have other elements too,because not everyone can deal
with that.
And no, no, there's only some ofmy people who know about a true,
you know, like resourcinol TCApeel, but we have some other
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great peels too.
Our aluminizing peel is sowonderful.
Uh the illuminizing peel haswhat resortinol, glycolic.
You know, I almost call it likea gessner, a modified gessner.
SPEAKER_01 (28:25):
It's very similar to that.
It's a good mix.
SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
So fabulous.
Like, why have just one elementof an acid when you can have
multiple that are gonna targetmultiple depths of skin and do
certain things?
And they all work with eachother.
One's texture, one'sbrightening, you know, one's
hydration.
And so all of those play a bigrole.
Um, are I'm getting into theseason now where a lot of people
(28:50):
are talking about peel.
Summertime is a little stagnant,right?
Everyone's going to the beach,they're out with their kids,
they're doing cruises andvacations and picnics and theme
parks.
They don't want that.
And that's fine.
So I tell them, listen, whenyou're ready, we're gonna do it.
And it's not sometimes just one,like you want a set of three.
It's almost like oncemicroneedling is kind of the
(29:10):
same concept, but it's nicebecause they're still with us.
And if they just want to do onepeel, nine times out of ten,
they're gonna do another one.
So I do love peels in thatsense, and it's more of a
targeted treatment.
So if you're coming in lookingfor like that massaging part of
it, you're not getting it.
You, you know, you're in here todo a certain targeted treatment.
This is the protocol.
(29:31):
Your results are gonna be toyour liking.
Um, and I love it because onceagain, for me, I almost feels
like it mimics a fractional in away.
Kind of gets in there so deepwhere you just want to crawl
through all these differentlayers and just do what it wants
to do.
And what a great way tostimulate collagen.
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It's like appeal is one of thosethings for me.
I feel like it helps so muchwith collagen and that elastin
synthesis, which A lot of peopledon't know elastin is very hard
to build, and when you build it,to know how your body can stack
it is the most important thing.
And so chemical peels is one ofthose things, too, that I will
(30:14):
always educate people on andsay, don't be afraid.
And guess what?
We have enough to do your neck.
Oh my god, who doesn't want todo that?
Bring it down.
Like, don't you want that?
Um it's a little bit moreeducating people, but once they
get into it, they they alreadyknow what they want for the
year.
They'll be like, okay, inNovember, I'm gonna do this, and
(30:35):
then January, I'm gonna do this,and they're ready to go.
So peels is one of those thingstoo.
And people are like, you dopeels.
It's like, honey, yes.
Are you kidding me?
Like, if there's a spot thatdoes not peel that does not do
peels, I that's very highlyquestionable.
Like, you should be once again,confidence, knowing your knowing
your ingredients, knowing whatthey do, and feeling confident
(30:58):
to apply and manipulatesomething that will give that
person that that result theywant.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
All right, last one microneedling.
So obviously it's one of ourmost advanced treatments.
So explain to anyone who doesn'tknow what microneedling is, what
it is, yeah, what that treatmentlooks like, and why we all are
obsessed with it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:22):
Oh my gosh.
I remember when we first broughtmicroneedling in.
And it was a while, too, becauseit could be once again
intimidating.
You know, for a while, it'slike, are people gonna like want
to do this?
Oh, I know I probably say thatabout every single treatment,
but there is nothing more in mylife that I love more than
microneedling.
(31:43):
I will say microneedling istiered right with me with
hydrofacial, but on a totallydifferent realm, right?
Someone wants to feel nice andclean and get these, you know,
good glowing results.
Microneedaline, you come in andwe get the job done.
It is, and and it's once again,it's so great because it's not
like a CO2 where you're doing aCO2 and you've got, you know,
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four to six weeks downtime whereyou can't even touch a laser.
You can't even touch a laser.
This allows you to still utilizeyour membership at the same
time.
It's not like, well, you didyour micronataline and now
you're not gonna be able to doany of the lasers.
No, it's it is a part of uh anincentive of what you're wanting
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to build.
And nine times out of 10, Imean, it does everything.
If you take hydrofacialgermoplaning, chemical peel, and
like cryo and put it together ina fractional, you get
microneedaline.
You literally getmicroneedaline.
Once again, no chemicals we do,we do use whether someone wants
(32:47):
to do the hyaluronic, nine timesout of ten, I get someone that
does the exosomes.
But it's a mechanical treatment,right?
So nine times out of ten,everyone's a candidate for it.
Unless someone comes in andthey're like super active acne,
then I'll say, hey, listen,let's get this under control and
then we're gonna go and we'regonna do this microneedling.
You've got a pen, which we useskin pen, it's the crumb of the
(33:11):
crumb.
I mean, microne uh well, skinpen was like one of the most
it's the founding father ofmicroneedling, isn't it?
The first FDA-approved device.
Yeah, and anybody else thatbuilds this company um where
they're doing microneedling,they're going based on their
studies.
So I have used skin pen for along time, and their pens just
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get better and better.
They are so accurate.
You've got like you got 12needles.
I mean, these needles are sharp,right?
They're sterile needles thatcome in and you're gauging a
certain millimeter on the skin,and every quadrant of the face
is a little different.
So you're you're customizing itfor that patient, whether they
have, I get, I can't tell you,melasma.
(33:56):
Melasma is one of those thingswhere if I go to a skincare
convention and I'm signing upfor let's how to treat melasma.
I can't, I can't tell you howmany doctors and surgeons and
derms there are in there becausethere is no one cure for
melasma.
And I feel like since bringingin microneedling, it has changed
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the course of the way people seetheir results so dramatically.
I mean, I have some girls thatI'm like, I just want to post
your pictures everywhere,everywhere, you know.
But it's wonderful, you'regauging these needles and you're
creating trauma.
So when I tell people, listen,when you're doing laser, you've
got a red light.
Red light is the deepest drivinglight, and you're going deep
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down in your subcutaneous.
This is where all your goodstuff is.
Your DNA is formed, where you'rebuilding collagen and elastin,
where your amino chains for yourpeptides are being chained and
built together.
And you're you're going in andyou're you're creating trauma,
but you're doing it with heat,right?
So then some people don't takethat very well, but most of the
time they they'll they'll takeit pretty good.
(34:59):
It's just they they hate some ofthe downtime, but they love the
results.
They're willing to do it overand over.
Microneedling is nice becausenow everyone's a candidate, no
matter what Fitzpatrick scaleyou are, creating trauma
physically.
So it's like, you know, you cutyourself, and then in a week
you're you, you know, yourbody's already going into repair
(35:20):
mode.
So I'll tell the girls, they'relike, why does my skin feel so
tight?
I'm like, honey, that is yourbody already going into a repair
mode.
You are gonna make so muchbeautiful collagen and elastin
and proteins, and on top ofthat, using exosomes to give you
the best results you can isunbelievable.
But physically creating trauma.
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And I get to do that myself.
So if someone's focused onmelasma, I'm focusing on a
certain millimeter and engagingin those certain areas.
And it's nice because certainlasers you can't really hit
right under the eyes.
You can do eyelids if you wantto.
You can do right under the eyeswhere certain lasers is very
questionable.
Protocol is you can't really hitin certain areas.
(36:05):
So I love microneedling in thatsense where you I can, I have
control.
I have control and I can reallygive that person what they need,
right?
Or if they do their neck andtheir lines, like, guess what?
We're gonna do stamping andwe're gonna annihilate those
deep lines.
So it is my number one.
Out of all of that, I will saymicroneedling is the number one
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treatment for me, paired witheverything else.
Like, if I see you and you havecertain things and I've been
with you for a couple of yearsnow, you're not doing
microneedling, I'm gonna botheryou every month about it, you
know, until they do.
unknown (36:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:43):
So it's it's been such a great add-on to our
business and our clientele.
Like, they will literally, whenour specials go on, they're
like, I'm gonna buy 16 of them.
I'm like, well, you can't buy16, but you can bank them.
Yeah, and then I'll see you whenyou're ready.
So, yes, micranealine.
unknown (37:03):
Number one.
SPEAKER_01 (37:05):
Number one as well.
I love it.
Yes, they're always yes.
All right, so our in-officetreatments are amazing, but home
care really makes those resultslast longer.
And I'm going to talk a littlebit about why home care is so
important, why the products thatwe carry that we carry, and and
(37:25):
yeah, why why they make such adifference.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:29):
Educating, right?
Once again.
And I tell people, listen, I'mnot hating on number seven.
I'm not hating on a lot of theseproducts.
But when you come in here, 20%is what we do, and the other 80%
is what you do at home.
I'm not gonna see you now foranother what, three, four weeks.
So I I'm not there to coddleyou.
(37:51):
But here's the thing if you wantcertain results, you're gonna
have to use certain ingredients.
And that calls for certainproducts.
So when you're which I didn'tknow this for a long time, but
let's say you go to Walm,Walmart, CVS, Walgreens, FDA
approves for a certain amount ofactivity to go into those
products.
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Meaning, if you've got a bottle,only three to four percent can
be active ingredients.
Anything from there is morepharmaceutical.
And now you're gonna needcertain elements to sell those
products.
So all of our products are thepercentage of active
ingredients, is like even ourTNS.
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RTNS, girl, you know, when webrought TNS, people were like,
um, excuse me, it's expensive,but they will literally save
their last penny to buy some ofthese products.
But active ingredients and thequality, you know, you got a
hyaluronic.
If it's not in a form of an of asmaller molecular structure, it
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is literally sitting on yourface doing anything nothing.
Might give you a little glow fora little while, but then that's
it.
You know, same thing withvitamin C.
You can go to any store, but Itell people here's the thing:
turn the bottle around and lookat the ingredients.
If it's not in a certainmolecular structure, your body's
not gonna take it and do what itneeds to do.
It doesn't know what it is.
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So it's just gonna go throughyour lymphatic and just, you
know, peep, peep, bye bye.
So certain forms of molecularstructure are gonna do what it
needs to do.
Think about these little tinyingredients that need to go in
and like swim through differentlayers of skin to reach where it
needs to.
It and a lot of them are justweak.
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So you have to know what you'regonna put on.
So it's really importanttopically what you put on and
consistently.
Like it has to be consistentlybecause if not, yeah, you might
get some good results.
But imagine if you were doing itday and night and it doesn't
take that much.
Like once you have your regimenand you know what you're doing
with us, it's so quick.
(39:59):
I mean, we have patients thathave been with us for 13, 12
years, 12 years since day one,since Couture opened its doors.
And whatever you tell them,they're gonna listen to you
because it's always beenconsistently giving you what we
tell you you're gonna get.
So we're not gonna lie to you.
So 80% of what you do is up toyou.
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The other 20% is us assistingyou in these treatments.
I'll go back to the Ferrari.
You want to buy a nice car?
You have to maintenance thatcar, you have to put an oil
change into it every so often.
You have to maintain what you'redoing.
And it's like, then why are yougetting this membership?
(40:40):
I get it.
You want to see me.
I love you, you love me.
But let me give you somethingmore.
I'm not someone that pushes alot of product, but I do
educate.
And if that means I am, I'msorry.
But I'm educating you, and if Idon't, I'm doing a disservice to
you.
So once again, and I will say it80% of what you do is all up to
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you.
And the other percent is we onlycan manipulate so much.
So when I see someone, I'm like,I'm so proud of you.
Like, because we can only do somuch, then we don't see you
again.
So you have been doing so good.
This is how you love and takecare of yourself is by being
consistent and taking that timeaway to wash your face and do,
you know, a nice skincareregimen that you truly believe
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in.
What are some of your personalfavorite products?
My number one.
I actually did this four weeksago.
I stopped using TNS.
And boy, would it make a bigdifference in my skin?
Because I was like, you knowwhat?
I'm gonna stop for just aminute.
(41:45):
And I'll tell some of thepatients who they're like, well,
I don't know if I'm seeing likeI don't know if it's really
doing much of a difference.
I go, well, here's the thing,then just stop.
Don't use it.
And give yourself a couple weeksthough, because you know, any
new product, it takes about 90days for you, for you to really
start seeing the results thatyou need.
60 to 90 days, I tell people.
(42:08):
TNS is one of those things.
I'm like four weeks and I didit.
I did it.
I just started this week again.
Uh see TNS is my holy grail.
SPEAKER_01 (42:18):
So, for anyone who doesn't know, what is the TNS?
SPEAKER_00 (42:20):
TNS is by Skin Medica.
It's been around now, what, 20plus years?
I think they reformulated ittwo, three years ago.
Yeah.
Before it was like, I forgetwhat it was.
So TNS is you've got twodifferent chambers.
One chamber is coming out withexosomes.
It's exosomes, right?
(42:40):
What are exosomes?
They're just live, well, they'revasculars, vascular that are
derived from bone marrow andstem cell.
And bone marrow is gonna bederived from a group of women,
right?
So they never derive it frommen, which I really don't know
the scientific thing about that,but you're deriving it same like
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exosomes, if we're gonna do withmicroneedling.
And then, you know, some peopleget freaked out.
I'm like, listen, this is not alive baby here.
You're not gonna hear a baby crywhen you pump this bottle.
But, you know, you've got theselive cells that are coming in
and helping your cellsregenerate on its DNA molecular
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structure because we're alwayssynthesizing new skin cells.
Once again, skin renewal isreally important.
That's how we have radiant skin.
But TNS is one of those thingsthat's just amazing.
Once again, you pair it witheverything.
It's not like, well, I'm usingvitamin C and I can't use it.
It's like, no, you're gonna useit for everything.
(43:42):
I think the only thing I'll tellpeople wait 30 minutes is your
retinol, right?
So our tretinoins where we, youknow, prescribe, and then we
have our retinols.
But the day you use a retinol,you'll skip that night.
It is absolutely unbelievable.
The integrity of how Skin Medicamade this.
I mean, I think it's one like 10years straight in a row for the
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best exosome product ever.
And they can formulate.
I mean, they have thesefactories that like I tell
people, I'm like, don't forgetthey make Botox, they make your
fillers.
I mean, these aretop-of-the-line laboratories
that are giving you theseingredients that I mean, it
surpasses anything.
I mean, talk about live activeingredients into it.
(44:24):
And it's nice because it's,it's, it's, it's combined with a
chamber of you know, yourantioxidants and your peptides,
which marry once again togetherso well with each other.
So TNS all the way.
Everything else, I love to.
I mean, I use everything.
I use it all.
You know, we we that's what wedo.
We use all of it.
SPEAKER_01 (44:45):
Yes, for sure.
unknown (44:46):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (44:48):
Okay.
Um, well, okay, so lastquestion.
Yeah.
Well, actually, you kind ofalready answered this one.
What was it?
If you had to pick your personalfavorite treatment.
Oh my God.
SPEAKER_00 (44:59):
Microneedling.
Microneedling.
All the way.
Microneedling and with exosomes.
Yeah.
Because, and that's this is thelast thing I'm going to bring
up.
But when people are like, I lovePRP, it's like, and I'm not
trying to diss you.
But if you're at a certain agebracket, how good of quality is
your plasma?
Yep.
And I get it, it's thisrecognizable structure that your
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body can take and do what itneeds to do.
But once again, there's a reasonwhy stem cells are derived from
babies, right?
Umbilical core, the amniotic sacand fluid and step and bone
marrow.
There's a reason there's an agebracket for it.
It's at its prepulteration.
Yeah.
Imagine a little kid cuttinghimself.
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I mean, I swear in two days,it's gone.
It's gone.
So you can do PRP and I love it,but remember how good is the
quality of your plasma, youknow, and with the price bracket
of it, it's like for yourexosomes, you can't beat it.
I feel like our prices are sowithin the realm of reach for so
(46:05):
many people who never in theirlife thought they can do this.
You know, I mean, how much isAmorpheus?
It's like a grand of treatment.
Yeah.
When, you know, what are youdoing with Morpheus?
You're doing fractional, oryou're doing microneedling and
you're setting a current ofradio frequency.
But you should really be, youknow, comfortable in what you're
(46:25):
doing with that because you cando a lot more damage.
So we've made it so much moreacceptable and reachable for
people that never thought theycan get these treatments.
unknown (46:36):
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (46:39):
I'm with you.
I love it.
My favorite thing is to hearpeople say, like, oh, I've
priced this out at other placesbefore and I've never been able
to do this.
So to know that we can helppeople achieve their goals and
not have to take out a loan todo it.
SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
Yeah, no, seriously.
It's amazing.
Listen, I I've been a laser techfor a long time.
We were financing you for a fullbody laser hair removal and it
was$10,000.
$10,000 to do full body laserhair removal.
And now it's it's we've we'vegotten so much better with that
because it's so much uh youknow, accessibility to it now.
(47:16):
So it's just gonna get betterand better.
SPEAKER_01 (47:19):
It is.
And who knows?
We're gonna keep adding more andmore things, more treatments.
Like we've talked about.
There's always something new,there's always something coming
out, and Katura is alwaysstaying on top of.
SPEAKER_00 (47:29):
Oh, Lindsay is always staying on top of it.
You stop it.
You're like, Diane, I love this.
Can we put it in?
SPEAKER_01 (47:36):
I mean, you try.
Yeah, and I always tell I alwaystell all my aestheticians like,
if you guys hear of anything orknow of anything, well, you get
to it before I do.
SPEAKER_00 (47:45):
I'm so busy.
You keep me busy, but I don'thave time to look at other
things.
Okay.
I love that.
So, yes, I thank you for that.
unknown (47:52):
All right.
SPEAKER_01 (47:53):
Well, thank you, Cynthia, for all of your insight
on all of our amazing servicesthat we offer.
All right, we're gonna doanother quick little rapid fire.
Yeah, get to know Cynthia'sfavorites.
Yeah, all right.
Lip gloss or lipstick?
Lip gloss.
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
Sheet mask or clay mask?
Oh, sheet mask for sure.
Maybe back in the day it wasclay mask, but not anymore.
I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm older now.
So sheet mask.
SPEAKER_01 (48:15):
Gold or silver jewelry.
SPEAKER_00 (48:17):
Oh, gold.
Heels or sneakers, sneakers allthe way.
Beach day or spa day.
Oh my god, you're gonna hate me.
Because I know you.
You're like, no, it's so sandy.
Beach, grandma, because I can doall my stuff I want at home.
Are you kidding me?
You know I hate the sand.
I know.
I was like, I've never met agirl that hates the beach, but
she's so that that was born andraised in Florida.
(48:39):
Yeah, like you are trueFloridian, but I have to say
Beach Day because I can doeverything I want to myself.
That is true.
So yeah, you know, beach day forsure.
SPEAKER_01 (48:49):
All right, Cynthia.
Well, thank you so much forwalking us through all of the
incredible spa services that weoffer at Couture and for sharing
your favorite personal skincareproducts and tips with us.
SPEAKER_00 (48:58):
So thank you.
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Come in, get a freecomplimentary consultation at
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So until next time, thanks forlistening.
Thanks.
Hello and welcome to another episode of Couture
Conversations.
I'm your host, Lindsay, leadesthetician here at Kator Med
Spa.
And in this episode, I am joinedby Cynthia, one of our amazing
estheticians out of our winterpark location at Kator Medspa.
And today, Cynthia and I aregoing to be deep diving into all
of the uh spa services that weoffer here at Kator Medspa.
(00:39):
So let's get started.
Hi.
Welcome back, Cynthia.
Thank you.
Thanks for joining me foranother episode.
SPEAKER_00 (00:45):
I love it.
Always my pleasure.
SPEAKER_01 (00:47):
So we offer a lot of things at Couture.
So we're just going to kind ofgo down the list of the
different services that weoffer, different treatments.
Yeah, so we'll start with oursignature couture facial.
So what would you say makes acivic signature couture facial
special to Couture and a greatplace to start for new clients?
SPEAKER_00 (01:07):
It's a great introduction.
You know, we we get a lot ofgirls and guys, once again, that
come in and maybe have never hada facial in their whole life,
you know.
Um, it's a great way tointroduce good treatments.
You know, if you're doingsomething or I'll tell someone,
hey, listen, this is gonna be,this is your couture.
(01:30):
This is given to you in yourmembership.
You're an empowered tieredmembership.
This is gonna be given to youevery single month.
And in the beginning, let'sstart off with that.
I want to see how your skinreacts, how you do with most of
the ingredients that we have, alot of active ingredients, which
I think is fabulous.
Cause when you go to these othertreatments that we do have,
(01:52):
ingredients is the main keycomponent.
It's, you know, what is going tobe active enough to go in and
give you the results that you'reyou you never thought you can
get.
So it's a good introduction toseeing how well your skin does
with certain ingredients.
Um, do we need to focus on moreon one or the other?
Um, oh, you know, looking atyour skin, I'm I'm feeling like
(02:15):
you should be using this andthat.
And don't forget, when you leavehere today, you should be
scheduling your IPL, you know.
But it's it's nice.
It gets, I have never hadsomeone tell me they did not
like a facial, period.
So I love those ones.
We call them the virgins thatcome in and they're like, I've
never had someone touch my face,I've never done extractions.
(02:38):
And it's a good way to introduceeverything else that couture is
going to be offering you.
So it's it's a good way to seehow your skin even reacts.
And especially for someone whodoesn't even do a lot to their
face, doing a couture is likeamazing.
It's amazing.
And I tell people it will prepyou to get even better results
(02:59):
with your blade of lasers.
You're going in for yourfractionals, you're going in for
your IPLs.
It it marries each other sobeautifully.
So just being able to get thatand not think about it, just be
like, oh, I'm just gonna do acouture today.
It's it's it's awesome.
I there are wonderful activeingredients.
There's so many great productsthat we use within our couture
(03:20):
that gives people what they wantand then pushes them to say, Oh
my gosh, my skin looks so good.
Imagine if I did a hydrofacialor if I did this.
Um, so it's a good introductionfor everybody and anybody.
SPEAKER_01 (03:32):
So for anyone listening who doesn't know if
they've never had what'sinvolved in the couture facial.
SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
So when I tell a patient, you know, this is what
we're gonna do, this is aprotocol.
We're gonna double cleanse.
We have two different cleansers,and once we're done with that,
we're gonna apply an exfoliator,nice, good, active, different
ingredients.
Once again, all different tieredacids that are gonna come in.
We're gonna do a nice lymphaticmassage with some steam.
We're gonna get your lymphsworking, we're gonna get a lot
(03:57):
of fluid away from the face, andwe're gonna, you know, we're
gonna give you a nice brightercomplexion.
And then from there, we're gonnatake that off.
We're gonna look under the lamp.
I'm gonna do extractions, we'regonna look at areas that really
tend you're never gonna be ableto see yourself.
Um, and then we'll go intoapplying your great products.
So after you're all nice andclean, we're gonna do a good eye
(04:21):
cream, we have a good vitamin Cserum, a hyaluronic, a
moisturizer, and obviously, nomatter what, if it's not sunny,
people are like, well, it'scloudy.
I'm like, oh, but the rays arestill there, girl.
We need the sun, so it's there.
We're putting on your sunblock.
Um, so usually that's that'skind of what I give them their
411.
Once I tell them that, theythey'll always know what they're
(04:43):
gonna get and they look forwardto it.
They love it.
unknown (04:45):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
So let's back it up for a second because it kind of
jumped ahead.
What is the importance ofmonthly facials?
Why are they important?
Unfortunately, we all get old,you know.
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
Darn it.
Um, you never realize in your20s a lot of things that start
to alter, right?
We start making, you know, westop really having that collagen
synthesis production, ourelastin fibers start to loosen.
You know, you need all those.
You don't just need collagen,you need elastin.
You you need, it's like I callit the youthful basket.
(05:20):
And once that starts to go, alot of other things, right?
Like our internal lipidproduction, our hyaluronic, all
of that starts to go away.
And then even our cell turnover.
As we get older, I think what isit, every 20 days, we're
supposed to have good, freshskin.
Our body lifts it up, sheds itoff, and then we've got nice,
(05:40):
healthy, glowing skinunderneath.
Well, that starts to go as weget older.
And so this is a really good wayto tell your body to do
something that maybe for thelast 10 years it wasn't really
doing, is so important is cellrenewal.
You need to wake the body up andsay, hey, let's go in, let's put
(06:01):
in some good protein peptidesand let's make some good,
healthy cells again.
So cell renewal out ofeverything is the most important
benefit that you'll get with afacial every single month.
SPEAKER_01 (06:13):
Okay, so we're gonna move on to I know one of your
favorite facials.
So hydrofacials are they're verypopular, they've been around for
a while.
Yeah.
So if you can just describe tolisteners what hydrofacial is,
what it does, who it's good for,and why you and your clients
love it so much.
SPEAKER_00 (06:31):
I'll tell you, the thing is like never turned off.
And especially for someone toowho's like new and they try it
for the first time, they justand it's nice because at the end
you kind of get to see all thatgood stuff.
So it really entails with onceagain, Hydrofacial is keen on
using really good activeingredients, and every step
(06:52):
hones in on a certainingredient.
So you've got this machinethat's gonna use what we call
vortex fusion, and you've gotall these different tips that
kind of maneuver these acids togo into the skin, really
liquefying.
In the beginning, I'll say, Hey,listen, we're gonna do your
cleanser.
This has got a lot ofglucosamine.
What does glucosamine do?
It comes in and we call it thehorny horny layer.
(07:13):
It breaks up that glue that yourskin cannot just easily shed
sometimes, and you need somekind of mechanical manipulation.
Um, so you're gonna getglucosamine for your cleansing
part.
And it really is great becauseevery time you're taking that
wand and you're touching theskin, it is literally using
(07:36):
fresh ingredients.
You're gonna you know, somethere are some products out
there or some machines that willkind of stay stagnant in in the
solution they use, or might bejust one solution.
And we have multiple solutions.
So every time I tell peopleyou're feeling solution on the
skin, it's new, fresh solution.
And we take that impurities andwe put it in the back of the
(07:58):
chamber.
And so it's so nice because youfeel this fresh, clean.
Some people are like, I feelfive pounds lighter, you know,
and it's so nice.
But every step is so great.
Your cleansing part is yourglucosamine, you know.
Then we go into, which is greatbecause we give a booster.
So there are some places thatyou're gonna have to pay for
your boosters, you know.
(08:20):
We give you a booster.
We do your glycal, that's 7.5%glycolic acidity.
And it's wonderful because nowyou're incorporating glucosamine
that's gonna really start toshed and create a good way of
now introducing otheringredients, your glycolic.
And then we go into extractionswhere we go in a little bit more
(08:41):
stronger.
And now we're using a salicylic.
And it's really what I'll say topeople is really liquefying your
sebaceous filaments.
What sometimes we don't reallyeven notice.
And the end of a sebaceousfilament life, I always say, is
blockhead.
It's just whatever's on thesurface, oxidizes, and it has to
be there for quite some time.
(09:02):
And then from there, I'll tellpeople we're gonna neutralize
all these acids.
We're done.
We're done using those.
Now your skin is ready to takeon some hyaluronic rich peptide
serums.
And so we go into a serum andthen we set it with a red light
therapy treatment.
It, whether it's blue light,someone's suffering from acne.
I love it because there are somany different elements that you
(09:24):
can really use the hydrofacialfor, whether someone's just
looking to just have a cleanfeeling, um, someone's looking
to feel super hydrated.
I do it a lot.
I get a lot of girls that weprep them.
The last thing they do beforetheir wedding is a hydrofacial.
We're gonna do a hydrofacial, orthey'll do a photo shoot.
They're gonna be on acommercial.
(09:44):
Hydrofacial is gonna be one ofthose things.
It's it's amazing.
It's been around for a while andit's kept its integrity.
I have to say, Hydrofacial isone of those companies that I'm
so proud to say has always keptits integrity.
Their quality is amazing and itshows every single time because
we are always constantly doinghydrofacials.
(10:05):
It's just the way it is.
And it works great when you'redoing lasers.
Someone's done a fractional,they feel super rough.
You know, once again, we're alittle older, our skin's not
shedding, but we've done thisablative laser, and now you need
something to get in there andexfoliate.
SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
Hydrofacial is one of those things, it's it's
amazing, and it's great becauseit exfoliates without being
harsh or aggressive.
SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
Yes, yeah.
I would say probably the onlyperson that wouldn't be a
candidate would be someone who'sgot like a lot of what we call
Kupero skin, right?
Like 80% of your faces withbroken capillaries.
Well, guess what?
That's not gonna really happentoo much.
We have other elements offacials that we'll do alongside
with saying, hey, we're gonna dosome IPLs.
But really, 98% of all ourpatients absolutely love
(10:48):
hydrofacial.
SPEAKER_01 (10:50):
Yeah, Cindy has a lot of hydrofacials.
SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah.
It's awesome.
And I love doing them.
It's so much fun to see in theback.
SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
And then she's like, oh my god, that was such a skin.
Tell them a little bit about thegunky jar.
SPEAKER_00 (11:00):
What so once you get done, what we say is like we
trap like about an ounce worthof fluid.
And it's so much fun to see inthe back because you get to see
all these like dense blackheadsthat are like sunk to the
bottom, and then you see all theyou know, the lighter density
ones that are just floatingaround with hair and like, you
(11:22):
know, once again, it'sbaceousfilaments.
It gets all creamy and chunky.
It's like it's amazing.
Some people are like, uh ew.
And I'm like, this is fabulous.
I love it.
Um, so it's cool because it'snot like, well, she told me that
it's gonna suction this.
It's like I'm gonna show you.
And nine times out of ten, theyare always shocked with how much
(11:44):
comes out of their face thatthey don't even realize.
You know, I'm like, you you'rehere this morning.
You told me you washed your facelast night.
You washed it kind of now.
And I always do a nice littlequick cleanse before I do it,
but it is an unbelievable howmuch we can still trap to the
unseen naked eye that is stillthere lingering, even with a
(12:06):
cleanse.
So it's it's it's just an extraincentive to see better results.
Once again, I will always saywith your lasers.
I'm a big laser girl.
So, you know, it's like do yourlasers and then come see me, or
come see me and then do yourlasers.
So it's like back and forth.
So it's awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (12:25):
Okay, so dermoplaning.
SPEAKER_00 (12:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:29):
Describe to us what dermoplaning is.
SPEAKER_00 (12:31):
Dermoplaning is so funny because some people are
like, Am I gonna grow back likeChewbacca?
And I'm like, no, baby girl.
It's called phallus hairs.
We have them when we're born.
We probably needed them morethan a century ago for some
reason.
But it's a very, very mildexfoliating treatment.
And I say more not chemically,but mechanically, because now
(12:52):
you're taking a surgical blade,which I will tell a lot of
people, I'm like, that's not adermoplane blade.
That's just a little razor.
But that's okay.
And then once they get a feel oflike what professionally really
you do with it, it's just somuch better.
But you know, you you have asurgical blade, you're going at
a 45 degree angle, and inalongside with some people
(13:14):
saying, Well, it's just my bellyhairs are so much more than
that, you're taking off thatfirst layer of your stratum
corneum.
And it's nice because onceagain, once you're done with
that, now you've got this freshskin popping up, right?
You got all these live skincells that are showing.
Almost not saying like you'restripping your microbiome, but
now anything you're gonna put onafterwards is gonna be so
(13:35):
beneficial.
So it's it allows better productpenetration.
Once again, before weddings,that's what I do.
I pair it with a hydrofacial.
So we're gonna do mechanicallyand we're gonna do chemical
exfoliation.
And it's the best of both worldsbecause some people are like, I
thought you weren't allowed todo double exfoliation.
I go, that's a lie.
(13:56):
It just depends on what you do.
You know, you're not gonna doappeal and then do a
hydrofacial.
No, but dermaplaning comes inthere and just allows the skin
to just be smoother and justhave more of a radiant look to
itself.
So it is, it's it's anotherpopular thing that I do too.
And I I will say withhydrofacial, I pair that a lot.
(14:17):
A lot.
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
Oh, yeah.
I love hydrofacial and dermaplaning together.
The best glow you'll ever see.
It's so good.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
And some people are like, how is this possible?
I'm like, once again, it justshows you how much of a stagnant
layer that we have that's reallynot doing anything.
And when you're putting productson, depending on the activity of
those ingredients, you're notgonna get anywhere.
So this is a great way withouthaving chemicals, because you
know, some people they get kindof scared with using certain
(14:45):
chemicals, but this is a greatway, once again, to introduce
with a couture facial too, withsomeone who's never really had a
facial.
It's just one of those thingsthat's amazing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
Yeah, I always tell everyone like your skin is gonna
feel like a baby's bottom.
It really is.
It's so smooth.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
It is.
SPEAKER_01 (15:02):
Although everyone wants to touch their face right
after, and I'm like, don't touchit with your touch or clean
face.
SPEAKER_00 (15:06):
No, girl, I'm the only one that's allowed to touch
you right now.
You know, it's only me.
Um, but they do, they love it.
Once again, I've never hadsomeone even in that element to
tell me, like, I hated it.
There's just there's just no wayyou can hate it.
There's just benefits to it.
Another good thing with dermaplaning is you can pair it with
so much, so many other things,you know.
(15:30):
Um, you can do dermaplaning andcryo, dermoplaning and
hydrofacial, you know.
Um some instances, depending onthe peel, you can do that too,
depending if it's a more mild,right?
Yeah, more of your AHAs is ismore of a safe route.
But another one I love too.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
You kind of touched on it, but can you explain the
difference between like thoselittle twinkle razors that
people use and say they use athome compared to what we use in
the treatment room?
SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
It's just a different element.
The what is it?
The surgical blade is like 100%stainless steel.
And think about what a surgicalblade is meant to do.
It's really meant to be used insurgeries to cut people, but in
a way that's so precise that itis such a sharp blade that you
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don't really have to worry withwhat we called lagging.
And then here I am, we'recutting you up, we're slicing
and dicing rather than themanufacturing way.
Unfortunately, of just like acheap little twinkle blade is
not gonna give you what youneed.
You're you're not gonna get theright, the right way of
(16:40):
eliminating your stratum cornea,you know.
It's like, listen, that twinklething that was meant for your
brows, girl.
That was meant for your brows,you know, it's not meant for
your full face.
So there's a reason why we'llalways say you should always see
a professional, you know, and Iget it.
There's someone doing it rightnow in their house.
They're looking and just goingat it.
But I get those girls, but whenthey see the element of really
(17:03):
truly using a professionalsurgical blade in the momentum
of someone professionally doingit, it's a totally different
result you get.
So I I try to educate peopleonce again.
I I can't knock you for what youdo.
You know, if that's what youwant to do, then that's that's
fine.
But it's great because even withour facial, it comes with a
mask.
So when we're stripping yourmicrobiome, now we're gonna go
(17:25):
in and we're gonna put some someonce again some good ingredients
into there.
So you're gonna be left with anice smooth skin, but you're
gonna be hydrated.
So I try to not be mean topeople.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
All we can do is educate them.
That's it.
Once again, this is thedifference.
Yeah, take take with it what youwill.
Absolutely.
That's what we're there for.
All right, this is one of mypersonal favorite visuals.
Um, fire and ice visuals.
SPEAKER_00 (17:51):
Yes, fire and ice.
I remember when I first startedwith Couture and I was like,
excuse me, you do fire and ice?
I love fire and ice.
Fire and ice is so it's just,you know, people get afraid
because they're like, fire is myface gonna burn.
It's like, well, here's thething you're gonna feel
activity.
(18:12):
It's just the way that it is.
Um, you're using botanicalacids, right?
Which I think some of it is likeyou you almost smell that
cinnamon a little bit.
Oh, it smells every personcomments.
SPEAKER_01 (18:22):
Oh, it smells so good, right?
Smells like fall.
SPEAKER_00 (18:25):
Yes, it does.
And it's it's just one of thoseelements that people love.
But you get um, what is it?
Uh glycolic, lactic, and yourbotanical acid.
SPEAKER_01 (18:34):
I think it has a tiny bit of retinol in it, too.
SPEAKER_00 (18:37):
Retinol, a little, yeah.
It's got the retinol in there,which I feel like a combination
of those, once again, youactivate it with steam.
Oh, okay.
So it gives you that little bitof intensity.
And I'll tell people listen, 60seconds is all you need.
This will start to go away.
And really what you're feelingis is just a lot of those acids
breaking down, you know, thatbarrier that we want to get
(18:59):
past.
So then we can do what we needto do.
Fire and ice is great.
It's, you know, I've I've dealtwith their products for a long
time and their protocols.
And I get a lot of my girls who,when they super feel stagnant
with their skin, they feel dull.
You know, that dullness whereyou're just like, I feel so
blah.
(19:20):
It's almost like I want someoneto punch me just to bring blood
flow to my face.
Fire and Ice will give you that.
And it's nice because you know,you got the fiery part and then
you got the ice part.
So you got these like, you know,you it's a contraindication, but
in a good way.
SPEAKER_01 (19:35):
What does the ice part include?
SPEAKER_00 (19:36):
The ice part includes a nice cooling mask,
right?
It has a little bit of a mentholinto it.
It's got hyaluronic.
And then what I like to do iswith a nice um, those ice
globes.
I love them.
It's so great.
It reduces so much inflammationto the skin.
But then once again, it helpswith just smoothing texture.
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I love fire knife when it comesto that.
When I think of fire and ice, Ithink of texture.
I think of pore size, and Ithink even sometimes a little
bit of that underlyingcongestion, you know, when
you're not acneic, but you'relooking and you're like, why do
I look so uneven and bumpy?
Oh, that is your skin tellingyou you need a good form of
exfoliating.
And fire and ice will do that.
(20:19):
It's it's a great way.
It's it, I tell people it mimicsa chemical peel without the
downtime of a chemical peel,which is nice because you can
work out afterwards, you can putyour makeup on.
You're not really hindered witha lot.
Rather than if you are gonna bedoing microneedling or a
chemical peel, there's a littlebit of downtime, but that's
that's the cost of it.
(20:39):
You you already know ahead oftime what you're gonna be doing.
Yeah.
So fire nice is one of thosetwo.
I still get my a lot of my OGgirls that every month are like
fire and ice, fire and ice, andI love it.
SPEAKER_01 (20:51):
Yeah.
I love fire and ice because forme, it's the I don't want to say
the one, but it's one of thefacials that's probably also the
most relaxing because itinvolves a lot of hands-on
touch.
So when I get those clients thatI know, yes, they want a good
resurfacing treatment, they wantsomething, some change in their
skin, but they I know the one, Iknow my ones that love to relax.
(21:15):
Like I want to be touched.
They want you to massage them.
Fire nice is my goodness.
SPEAKER_00 (21:20):
Yeah, and I like it too because like, well, mask is
included into it.
Yeah, but I I have noticed withpeople, like if you're getting a
facial, you just want to betouched.
SPEAKER_01 (21:29):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (21:30):
Right.
Meanwhile, the ones that alreadyknow what time it is when they
come in for the micronatal ainand stuff, you ain't gonna be
touched.
Yeah, you know, it's a littlebit spread in a different way,
you know.
Um, but once again, fire and iceis just one of those that I
don't think will ever go awayfor us.
No, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:47):
It's a staple.
SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:50):
So something that's a little bit new to Katoire,
we've only been offering thesefor since January.
Yeah.
Um, so our cryofacials.
Um, so what are some cryofacialsand how are they a little bit
different and unique fromanything else that we offer?
SPEAKER_00 (22:06):
You're thinking of temperature.
You know, the body does somecrazy things when you're under
extreme temperatures, whetherit's super hot or super cold.
But what a great way to say,hey, we're gonna use extreme
coldness to dilate your bloodvessels and make you have a
better blood flow.
(22:27):
Because a better blood flowbrings so much other benefits to
you and increases oxygen.
And oxygen is so good for thecells.
That's why you hear all thesefacials about oxygenated facial,
oxygenated mask.
Cryo does that.
And you can manipulate it to doa lot of different things too,
whether it's you want to contourthe face, you want to do a lot
(22:48):
of tightening and lifting, um,you want to diminish pore size,
you want to hone in on fatcells.
So, which we'll probably getinto that.
But with the cryofacial, it's sonice.
Every girl that's come in, weuse a fermion peptide that goes
along with it, which is a greatconductor to allow to reach a
certain temperature to staythere and get those results.
(23:11):
So, once again, even like mysuper older women who once
again, you know, blood flowmight not be at its prime for
them.
This is gonna really allow forthat.
Um, and they love that too.
I have done cryos right before,which is even nice too, before
uh a wedding, because there'snot that contraindication of
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this downtime or being like, ohmy gosh, she was so red.
Like, this is totally different.
You have a little bit ofrosacea, you've got some
cooperal skin.
What's cooperal skin?
You know, blood vessels that arenot doing anything, they're
dead, they're gone.
So let's make sure the ones thatyou do have or your body's
creating is that we want to getthat blood flow going through
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there.
And and cryofacial will do that.
So, once again, a lot ofbenefits with the cryofacial.
It's it's a win-win, you know,not a lot of contraindications
with that, which I like.
It's it's it's one of thosethat's safe with giving you your
quality benefits of it as well.
SPEAKER_01 (24:11):
So you slightly mentioned it.
So while we're yeah, on on theuh topic of cryo, um, not face
related, but we also do um bodycontouring with our cryotherapy.
So if you can go dive into alittle bit more of that part of
it.
SPEAKER_00 (24:26):
Body is fun too.
Cause then, like, yay, I get tosee my body contouring member
girl.
I know it switches it up for us.
It is nice.
It's great because it's like,and once again, I get to see
some guys and girls that uhmaybe are not in a certain
tiered membership where they gettheir facials.
Um I love, I love it.
It's it's nice.
You're honing in on an area,which we can do multiple areas.
(24:49):
Some people are like, I want theback of my thighs because of
cellulite, or I want mybuttocks, once again, for
cellulite, um, arms, chin,stomach, flanks.
There's so many different areas,but you're honing in once again
on a certain pattern.
You're gonna go in with extremelow temperatures, and you're
taking these fat cells andputting them to a stage called
(25:12):
apoptosis, where you'reundergoing natural cell death.
That's pretty much what it is.
You're killing off these cells.
If you've ever heard of truesculpt, no, is it not true
sculpt?
Um, cool sculpting.
Cool sculpting.
It's the same concept.
Um you're you're wanting to geta certain amount of fat cells
that want to go into apoptosis.
(25:32):
So then what your body does isit takes all these dead fat
cells, put it into lymphatic,and really starts to work
through the body for you.
And I'll tell people you'regonna urinate all this stuff out
without really noticing it.
It will take, it can take weeksor months, depending on the
person, right?
If there's someone that maybedoesn't really work out too much
or they just don't work out alot a lot, then I'll say you it
(25:56):
might take you a little longer.
But the results that we'vegotten from it has been
phenomenal.
And it's nice because now youget it into your body
contouring, which I get a girlwho who flies all the way from
Louisiana to come in to do her Msculpt and her vanquish and her
her cryo, and she loves it.
(26:18):
I mean, she's willing to take aflight once a month to come here
to do that.
Um, so it's just a nice littleextra element of giving you the
results you need with alreadydoing those other two, which is
your vanquish and your M sculpt.
So I'll always say it.
I love body contouring.
Probably the most popular isstomach and thighs, right?
(26:42):
Stomach and thighs.
And you know, flanks too, butreally those people are like, oh
my God, I'm seeing results.
It's so awesome.
Because you're already takinginitiative, right?
Once again, I tell people like,hey, listen, you can't come in
and do your cryo and need a andeat a burger later.
Better be a veggie burger, youknow, with no bun, you know.
So they really do take thatextra initiative.
(27:05):
And I felt I do feel I'm sohappy.
I love the cryo treatments thatwe have, and it gives a little
extra push.
SPEAKER_01 (27:12):
Okay, so one of another, well, they're all our
favorites, but I I always sayCynthia's my peel girl.
SPEAKER_00 (27:18):
So man.
SPEAKER_01 (27:20):
Chemical peels.
SPEAKER_00 (27:21):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (27:22):
So yes, break down why chemical peels are so
effective and why I know youlove chemical peels.
SPEAKER_00 (27:27):
Gosh, they've been around for so long.
SPEAKER_01 (27:29):
They're tried and true.
SPEAKER_00 (27:31):
They really are, and and they're not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (27:33):
They won't.
SPEAKER_00 (27:34):
You know, if you have a skincare company and you
don't incorporate a peel, whoare you?
Get out of here, get out, justgo.
I love it.
Remember, I'm like a TCA girlall the way.
Cynthia.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
She loves when I say Cynthia loves her appeal, she
loves her appeal.
SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
I was like, Yeah, I want you to come out, and I'm
like, my goal is for you to havefive days of peeling down time.
Like, seriously.
But we have other elements too,because not everyone can deal
with that.
And no, no, there's only some ofmy people who know about a true,
you know, like resourcinol TCApeel, but we have some other
(28:13):
great peels too.
Our aluminizing peel is sowonderful.
Uh the illuminizing peel haswhat resortinol, glycolic.
You know, I almost call it likea gessner, a modified gessner.
SPEAKER_01 (28:25):
It's very similar to that.
It's a good mix.
SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
So fabulous.
Like, why have just one elementof an acid when you can have
multiple that are gonna targetmultiple depths of skin and do
certain things?
And they all work with eachother.
One's texture, one'sbrightening, you know, one's
hydration.
And so all of those play a bigrole.
Um, are I'm getting into theseason now where a lot of people
(28:50):
are talking about peel.
Summertime is a little stagnant,right?
Everyone's going to the beach,they're out with their kids,
they're doing cruises andvacations and picnics and theme
parks.
They don't want that.
And that's fine.
So I tell them, listen, whenyou're ready, we're gonna do it.
And it's not sometimes just one,like you want a set of three.
It's almost like oncemicroneedling is kind of the
(29:10):
same concept, but it's nicebecause they're still with us.
And if they just want to do onepeel, nine times out of ten,
they're gonna do another one.
So I do love peels in thatsense, and it's more of a
targeted treatment.
So if you're coming in lookingfor like that massaging part of
it, you're not getting it.
You, you know, you're in here todo a certain targeted treatment.
This is the protocol.
(29:31):
Your results are gonna be toyour liking.
Um, and I love it because onceagain, for me, I almost feels
like it mimics a fractional in away.
Kind of gets in there so deepwhere you just want to crawl
through all these differentlayers and just do what it wants
to do.
And what a great way tostimulate collagen.
(29:52):
It's like appeal is one of thosethings for me.
I feel like it helps so muchwith collagen and that elastin
synthesis, which A lot of peopledon't know elastin is very hard
to build, and when you build it,to know how your body can stack
it is the most important thing.
And so chemical peels is one ofthose things, too, that I will
(30:14):
always educate people on andsay, don't be afraid.
And guess what?
We have enough to do your neck.
Oh my god, who doesn't want todo that?
Bring it down.
Like, don't you want that?
Um it's a little bit moreeducating people, but once they
get into it, they they alreadyknow what they want for the
year.
They'll be like, okay, inNovember, I'm gonna do this, and
(30:35):
then January, I'm gonna do this,and they're ready to go.
So peels is one of those thingstoo.
And people are like, you dopeels.
It's like, honey, yes.
Are you kidding me?
Like, if there's a spot thatdoes not peel that does not do
peels, I that's very highlyquestionable.
Like, you should be once again,confidence, knowing your knowing
your ingredients, knowing whatthey do, and feeling confident
(30:58):
to apply and manipulatesomething that will give that
person that that result theywant.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
All right, last one microneedling.
So obviously it's one of ourmost advanced treatments.
So explain to anyone who doesn'tknow what microneedling is, what
it is, yeah, what that treatmentlooks like, and why we all are
obsessed with it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:22):
Oh my gosh.
I remember when we first broughtmicroneedling in.
And it was a while, too, becauseit could be once again
intimidating.
You know, for a while, it'slike, are people gonna like want
to do this?
Oh, I know I probably say thatabout every single treatment,
but there is nothing more in mylife that I love more than
microneedling.
(31:43):
I will say microneedling istiered right with me with
hydrofacial, but on a totallydifferent realm, right?
Someone wants to feel nice andclean and get these, you know,
good glowing results.
Microneedaline, you come in andwe get the job done.
It is, and and it's once again,it's so great because it's not
like a CO2 where you're doing aCO2 and you've got, you know,
(32:05):
four to six weeks downtime whereyou can't even touch a laser.
You can't even touch a laser.
This allows you to still utilizeyour membership at the same
time.
It's not like, well, you didyour micronataline and now
you're not gonna be able to doany of the lasers.
No, it's it is a part of uh anincentive of what you're wanting
(32:26):
to build.
And nine times out of 10, Imean, it does everything.
If you take hydrofacialgermoplaning, chemical peel, and
like cryo and put it together ina fractional, you get
microneedaline.
You literally getmicroneedaline.
Once again, no chemicals we do,we do use whether someone wants
(32:47):
to do the hyaluronic, nine timesout of ten, I get someone that
does the exosomes.
But it's a mechanical treatment,right?
So nine times out of ten,everyone's a candidate for it.
Unless someone comes in andthey're like super active acne,
then I'll say, hey, listen,let's get this under control and
then we're gonna go and we'regonna do this microneedling.
You've got a pen, which we useskin pen, it's the crumb of the
(33:11):
crumb.
I mean, microne uh well, skinpen was like one of the most
it's the founding father ofmicroneedling, isn't it?
The first FDA-approved device.
Yeah, and anybody else thatbuilds this company um where
they're doing microneedling,they're going based on their
studies.
So I have used skin pen for along time, and their pens just
(33:33):
get better and better.
They are so accurate.
You've got like you got 12needles.
I mean, these needles are sharp,right?
They're sterile needles thatcome in and you're gauging a
certain millimeter on the skin,and every quadrant of the face
is a little different.
So you're you're customizing itfor that patient, whether they
have, I get, I can't tell you,melasma.
(33:56):
Melasma is one of those thingswhere if I go to a skincare
convention and I'm signing upfor let's how to treat melasma.
I can't, I can't tell you howmany doctors and surgeons and
derms there are in there becausethere is no one cure for
melasma.
And I feel like since bringingin microneedling, it has changed
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the course of the way people seetheir results so dramatically.
I mean, I have some girls thatI'm like, I just want to post
your pictures everywhere,everywhere, you know.
But it's wonderful, you'regauging these needles and you're
creating trauma.
So when I tell people, listen,when you're doing laser, you've
got a red light.
Red light is the deepest drivinglight, and you're going deep
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down in your subcutaneous.
This is where all your goodstuff is.
Your DNA is formed, where you'rebuilding collagen and elastin,
where your amino chains for yourpeptides are being chained and
built together.
And you're you're going in andyou're you're creating trauma,
but you're doing it with heat,right?
So then some people don't takethat very well, but most of the
time they they'll they'll takeit pretty good.
(34:59):
It's just they they hate some ofthe downtime, but they love the
results.
They're willing to do it overand over.
Microneedling is nice becausenow everyone's a candidate, no
matter what Fitzpatrick scaleyou are, creating trauma
physically.
So it's like, you know, you cutyourself, and then in a week
you're you, you know, yourbody's already going into repair
(35:20):
mode.
So I'll tell the girls, they'relike, why does my skin feel so
tight?
I'm like, honey, that is yourbody already going into a repair
mode.
You are gonna make so muchbeautiful collagen and elastin
and proteins, and on top ofthat, using exosomes to give you
the best results you can isunbelievable.
But physically creating trauma.
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And I get to do that myself.
So if someone's focused onmelasma, I'm focusing on a
certain millimeter and engagingin those certain areas.
And it's nice because certainlasers you can't really hit
right under the eyes.
You can do eyelids if you wantto.
You can do right under the eyeswhere certain lasers is very
questionable.
Protocol is you can't really hitin certain areas.
(36:05):
So I love microneedling in thatsense where you I can, I have
control.
I have control and I can reallygive that person what they need,
right?
Or if they do their neck andtheir lines, like, guess what?
We're gonna do stamping andwe're gonna annihilate those
deep lines.
So it is my number one.
Out of all of that, I will saymicroneedling is the number one
(36:30):
treatment for me, paired witheverything else.
Like, if I see you and you havecertain things and I've been
with you for a couple of yearsnow, you're not doing
microneedling, I'm gonna botheryou every month about it, you
know, until they do.
unknown (36:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:43):
So it's it's been such a great add-on to our
business and our clientele.
Like, they will literally, whenour specials go on, they're
like, I'm gonna buy 16 of them.
I'm like, well, you can't buy16, but you can bank them.
Yeah, and then I'll see you whenyou're ready.
So, yes, micranealine.
unknown (37:03):
Number one.
SPEAKER_01 (37:05):
Number one as well.
I love it.
Yes, they're always yes.
All right, so our in-officetreatments are amazing, but home
care really makes those resultslast longer.
And I'm going to talk a littlebit about why home care is so
important, why the products thatwe carry that we carry, and and
(37:25):
yeah, why why they make such adifference.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:29):
Educating, right?
Once again.
And I tell people, listen, I'mnot hating on number seven.
I'm not hating on a lot of theseproducts.
But when you come in here, 20%is what we do, and the other 80%
is what you do at home.
I'm not gonna see you now foranother what, three, four weeks.
So I I'm not there to coddleyou.
(37:51):
But here's the thing if you wantcertain results, you're gonna
have to use certain ingredients.
And that calls for certainproducts.
So when you're which I didn'tknow this for a long time, but
let's say you go to Walm,Walmart, CVS, Walgreens, FDA
approves for a certain amount ofactivity to go into those
products.
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Meaning, if you've got a bottle,only three to four percent can
be active ingredients.
Anything from there is morepharmaceutical.
And now you're gonna needcertain elements to sell those
products.
So all of our products are thepercentage of active
ingredients, is like even ourTNS.
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RTNS, girl, you know, when webrought TNS, people were like,
um, excuse me, it's expensive,but they will literally save
their last penny to buy some ofthese products.
But active ingredients and thequality, you know, you got a
hyaluronic.
If it's not in a form of an of asmaller molecular structure, it
(38:53):
is literally sitting on yourface doing anything nothing.
Might give you a little glow fora little while, but then that's
it.
You know, same thing withvitamin C.
You can go to any store, but Itell people here's the thing:
turn the bottle around and lookat the ingredients.
If it's not in a certainmolecular structure, your body's
not gonna take it and do what itneeds to do.
It doesn't know what it is.
(39:15):
So it's just gonna go throughyour lymphatic and just, you
know, peep, peep, bye bye.
So certain forms of molecularstructure are gonna do what it
needs to do.
Think about these little tinyingredients that need to go in
and like swim through differentlayers of skin to reach where it
needs to.
It and a lot of them are justweak.
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So you have to know what you'regonna put on.
So it's really importanttopically what you put on and
consistently.
Like it has to be consistentlybecause if not, yeah, you might
get some good results.
But imagine if you were doing itday and night and it doesn't
take that much.
Like once you have your regimenand you know what you're doing
with us, it's so quick.
(39:59):
I mean, we have patients thathave been with us for 13, 12
years, 12 years since day one,since Couture opened its doors.
And whatever you tell them,they're gonna listen to you
because it's always beenconsistently giving you what we
tell you you're gonna get.
So we're not gonna lie to you.
So 80% of what you do is up toyou.
(40:20):
The other 20% is us assistingyou in these treatments.
I'll go back to the Ferrari.
You want to buy a nice car?
You have to maintenance thatcar, you have to put an oil
change into it every so often.
You have to maintain what you'redoing.
And it's like, then why are yougetting this membership?
(40:40):
I get it.
You want to see me.
I love you, you love me.
But let me give you somethingmore.
I'm not someone that pushes alot of product, but I do
educate.
And if that means I am, I'msorry.
But I'm educating you, and if Idon't, I'm doing a disservice to
you.
So once again, and I will say it80% of what you do is all up to
(41:01):
you.
And the other percent is we onlycan manipulate so much.
So when I see someone, I'm like,I'm so proud of you.
Like, because we can only do somuch, then we don't see you
again.
So you have been doing so good.
This is how you love and takecare of yourself is by being
consistent and taking that timeaway to wash your face and do,
you know, a nice skincareregimen that you truly believe
(41:23):
in.
What are some of your personalfavorite products?
My number one.
I actually did this four weeksago.
I stopped using TNS.
And boy, would it make a bigdifference in my skin?
Because I was like, you knowwhat?
I'm gonna stop for just aminute.
(41:45):
And I'll tell some of thepatients who they're like, well,
I don't know if I'm seeing likeI don't know if it's really
doing much of a difference.
I go, well, here's the thing,then just stop.
Don't use it.
And give yourself a couple weeksthough, because you know, any
new product, it takes about 90days for you, for you to really
start seeing the results thatyou need.
60 to 90 days, I tell people.
(42:08):
TNS is one of those things.
I'm like four weeks and I didit.
I did it.
I just started this week again.
Uh see TNS is my holy grail.
SPEAKER_01 (42:18):
So, for anyone who doesn't know, what is the TNS?
SPEAKER_00 (42:20):
TNS is by Skin Medica.
It's been around now, what, 20plus years?
I think they reformulated ittwo, three years ago.
Yeah.
Before it was like, I forgetwhat it was.
So TNS is you've got twodifferent chambers.
One chamber is coming out withexosomes.
It's exosomes, right?
(42:40):
What are exosomes?
They're just live, well, they'revasculars, vascular that are
derived from bone marrow andstem cell.
And bone marrow is gonna bederived from a group of women,
right?
So they never derive it frommen, which I really don't know
the scientific thing about that,but you're deriving it same like
(43:01):
exosomes, if we're gonna do withmicroneedling.
And then, you know, some peopleget freaked out.
I'm like, listen, this is not alive baby here.
You're not gonna hear a baby crywhen you pump this bottle.
But, you know, you've got theselive cells that are coming in
and helping your cellsregenerate on its DNA molecular
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structure because we're alwayssynthesizing new skin cells.
Once again, skin renewal isreally important.
That's how we have radiant skin.
But TNS is one of those thingsthat's just amazing.
Once again, you pair it witheverything.
It's not like, well, I'm usingvitamin C and I can't use it.
It's like, no, you're gonna useit for everything.
(43:42):
I think the only thing I'll tellpeople wait 30 minutes is your
retinol, right?
So our tretinoins where we, youknow, prescribe, and then we
have our retinols.
But the day you use a retinol,you'll skip that night.
It is absolutely unbelievable.
The integrity of how Skin Medicamade this.
I mean, I think it's one like 10years straight in a row for the
(44:04):
best exosome product ever.
And they can formulate.
I mean, they have thesefactories that like I tell
people, I'm like, don't forgetthey make Botox, they make your
fillers.
I mean, these aretop-of-the-line laboratories
that are giving you theseingredients that I mean, it
surpasses anything.
I mean, talk about live activeingredients into it.
(44:24):
And it's nice because it's,it's, it's, it's combined with a
chamber of you know, yourantioxidants and your peptides,
which marry once again togetherso well with each other.
So TNS all the way.
Everything else, I love to.
I mean, I use everything.
I use it all.
You know, we we that's what wedo.
We use all of it.
SPEAKER_01 (44:45):
Yes, for sure.
unknown (44:46):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (44:48):
Okay.
Um, well, okay, so lastquestion.
Yeah.
Well, actually, you kind ofalready answered this one.
What was it?
If you had to pick your personalfavorite treatment.
Oh my God.
SPEAKER_00 (44:59):
Microneedling.
Microneedling.
All the way.
Microneedling and with exosomes.
Yeah.
Because, and that's this is thelast thing I'm going to bring
up.
But when people are like, I lovePRP, it's like, and I'm not
trying to diss you.
But if you're at a certain agebracket, how good of quality is
your plasma?
Yep.
And I get it, it's thisrecognizable structure that your
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body can take and do what itneeds to do.
But once again, there's a reasonwhy stem cells are derived from
babies, right?
Umbilical core, the amniotic sacand fluid and step and bone
marrow.
There's a reason there's an agebracket for it.
It's at its prepulteration.
Yeah.
Imagine a little kid cuttinghimself.
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I mean, I swear in two days,it's gone.
It's gone.
So you can do PRP and I love it,but remember how good is the
quality of your plasma, youknow, and with the price bracket
of it, it's like for yourexosomes, you can't beat it.
I feel like our prices are sowithin the realm of reach for so
(46:05):
many people who never in theirlife thought they can do this.
You know, I mean, how much isAmorpheus?
It's like a grand of treatment.
Yeah.
When, you know, what are youdoing with Morpheus?
You're doing fractional, oryou're doing microneedling and
you're setting a current ofradio frequency.
But you should really be, youknow, comfortable in what you're
(46:25):
doing with that because you cando a lot more damage.
So we've made it so much moreacceptable and reachable for
people that never thought theycan get these treatments.
unknown (46:36):
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (46:39):
I'm with you.
I love it.
My favorite thing is to hearpeople say, like, oh, I've
priced this out at other placesbefore and I've never been able
to do this.
So to know that we can helppeople achieve their goals and
not have to take out a loan todo it.
SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
Yeah, no, seriously.
It's amazing.
Listen, I I've been a laser techfor a long time.
We were financing you for a fullbody laser hair removal and it
was$10,000.
$10,000 to do full body laserhair removal.
And now it's it's we've we'vegotten so much better with that
because it's so much uh youknow, accessibility to it now.
(47:16):
So it's just gonna get betterand better.
SPEAKER_01 (47:19):
It is.
And who knows?
We're gonna keep adding more andmore things, more treatments.
Like we've talked about.
There's always something new,there's always something coming
out, and Katura is alwaysstaying on top of.
SPEAKER_00 (47:29):
Oh, Lindsay is always staying on top of it.
You stop it.
You're like, Diane, I love this.
Can we put it in?
SPEAKER_01 (47:36):
I mean, you try.
Yeah, and I always tell I alwaystell all my aestheticians like,
if you guys hear of anything orknow of anything, well, you get
to it before I do.
SPEAKER_00 (47:45):
I'm so busy.
You keep me busy, but I don'thave time to look at other
things.
Okay.
I love that.
So, yes, I thank you for that.
unknown (47:52):
All right.
SPEAKER_01 (47:53):
Well, thank you, Cynthia, for all of your insight
on all of our amazing servicesthat we offer.
All right, we're gonna doanother quick little rapid fire.
Yeah, get to know Cynthia'sfavorites.
Yeah, all right.
Lip gloss or lipstick?
Lip gloss.
SPEAKER_00 (48:06):
Sheet mask or clay mask?
Oh, sheet mask for sure.
Maybe back in the day it wasclay mask, but not anymore.
I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm older now.
So sheet mask.
SPEAKER_01 (48:15):
Gold or silver jewelry.
SPEAKER_00 (48:17):
Oh, gold.
Heels or sneakers, sneakers allthe way.
Beach day or spa day.
Oh my god, you're gonna hate me.
Because I know you.
You're like, no, it's so sandy.
Beach, grandma, because I can doall my stuff I want at home.
Are you kidding me?
You know I hate the sand.
I know.
I was like, I've never met agirl that hates the beach, but
she's so that that was born andraised in Florida.
(48:39):
Yeah, like you are trueFloridian, but I have to say
Beach Day because I can doeverything I want to myself.
That is true.
So yeah, you know, beach day forsure.
SPEAKER_01 (48:49):
All right, Cynthia.
Well, thank you so much forwalking us through all of the
incredible spa services that weoffer at Couture and for sharing
your favorite personal skincareproducts and tips with us.
SPEAKER_00 (48:58):
So thank you.
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