February 13, 2024 • 54 mins
When a blueprint transforms into a story that others can hold in their hands, it's not just ink on paper—it's a voyage of dreams becoming tangible realities. This week, COVE Podcast host Paul Carganilla is joined by a long-time friend who has danced from the vibrant avenues of fan fiction to the bold terrain of published authorship. It's one thing to create art in the solitude of your own mind, but to share that art with the world requires a courageous leap of faith. Our guest opens up about the complex navigation of apprehension and yearning that accompanies the release of one's creations into the wild. An enlightening interaction on a movie set, coupled with the guiding hand of mentorship during the unpredictability of a global pandemic, were the sparks that ignited a journey from private scribbles to the invigorating exposure of publication—testimonials to the profound impact of community encouragement and the unexpected directions where creativity can lead.
This episode isn't just an exploration of one creator's path; it's a clarion call to all the dreamers on the verge of stepping into their own creative realms. We swap tales and impart wisdom for those teetering on the edge of their own artistic expeditions, underscoring the richness that unfolds when one dares to traverse into the unknown. With every shared story and piece of advice, we aim not only to motivate but to provide a beacon for those navigating the tides of their passions. Join us for this uplifting session, where the synergy between creativity, friendship, and the support of a vibrant community shines as the guiding light for all aspiring artists.
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DRAMATIC READING CAST: Craig Jackman, Amanda Benjamin, Amy Naluai, Paul Carganilla
VOICE-OVER INTRODUCTION: Jonathan Freeman ( 'Jafar' in the "Aladdin" animated films )
SOCIAL MEDIA TEAM: Craig Jackman, Emily Thatcher, Christina Marie Bielen, Dary Mills, Amanda Benjamin
PATREON CURATORS: Jamie Carganilla, Emily Thatcher, The Faeryns, Charity Swanson, Krista Faith King, Kelsey B Gibson, Angelica Bollschweiler, Anna Giannavola, Gina Dobbs, Merrill Mielke, Susan Kuhn, Josefa Snider
INTRO MUSIC: “Papi Beat” [ KICKTRACKS ]
CREDITS MUSIC: “Fat Banana” [ KICKTRACKS ]
HOST, CREATOR, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, CREATIVE DIRECTOR, EDITOR: Paul Carganilla
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I could publish one of my stories.
I could take one of theseblueprints and I could turn it
into something that could bepublished, and then I wrote one
in it and I published it.
No-transcript.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcometo the Carganella Online Variety
Entertainment Podcast.
Here's your host, paulCarganella.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello, and welcome to Cove.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
This is the online variety show in which we aim to
both entertain and inspire ourpodcast listeners and our
YouTube viewers through avariety of art forms, including
music, poetry, storytelling,special guest interviews, travel
blogs, dramatic readings, awhole grab bag, a whole variety
of buffet, if you will like, acruise buffet full of
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entertainment for the wholeentire family to get you through
every week, while you'rewashing the dishes, going on
your jog, driving to work, lunchbreak at work, I hope you know,
every Tuesday we're here onyour doorstep, knocking on your
podcast queue with something newand entertaining, like a box of
chocolates for your ear holesto enjoy.
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And, as we do every week, wewant to, of course, introduce
everybody to.
Well, not every week, it's notevery week we get to meet
somebody special, someoneentertaining.
Sometimes we gather as a group,a special entertaining group,
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and sometimes we just focus onone person, but today we are
going to focus on a very goodfriend of mine who I'm very
inspired by her journey, hercreative journey, if you will,
and we'll talk more about thatright after we catch up with our
producer behind the scenes.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's pullthe cart back in front of the
horse, maybe even trip it withthe wheels of the cart.
(01:58):
If we slam on the brakes realfast, we're going on the cart
without the horse and I don'tknow how it's going without the
horse, because the horse isbehind it.
But let's get the horse back infront of it and bring in
producer Craig Jackman.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Producer Craig Welcome, hey, hey, hey, a horse
is a horse, of course, of course.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
We've been very fortunate to meet a lot of new
friends along the way in seasonone of Cove Podcast, and we
started off with some familiarfriends.
I just made up a new word.
We started off with somefamiliar friends that we go way
back with, and we've beenmeeting new ones along the way,
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but this is another one thatwe've known for many years
between, of course, the two ofus, and I'm excited to have her
on because she has written abook and has another one that's
about to drop.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And you know what, Paul here's the other thing you
are one of her inspirations forthe book because of a previous
podcast that you were involvedwith.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Nah, I don't know if I was an inspiration, I think I
just like to shove people offcliffs and say, try to fly.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yes, firing, that can be.
But, ladies and gentlemen, ourguest today, she is not only a
creator of her own right, butshe also helps to keep this show
going and growing.
She is one of our Patreoncurators, so that is something
super special that I'm stokedabout.
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And I talk about a Patreonwhile we're rolling the credits
pretty much every week.
But here at the start I justwant to say thank you to all of
everyone in our Patreoncommunity and if you don't know
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Of course, every Tuesday youget a free episode on our
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But every member of the Patreoncove community gets a bonus
episode every month filled withmusic performed not just
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performed by our friends in thecove community here, but
requested by our Patreoncommunity, performed by our cove
community.
And it's an exclusivelivestream every month for all
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I'm going to send you a letterof thanks for joining, signed by
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So, for instance, this episodethat we're recording right now
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And every year, on youranniversary of becoming a
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We have 12 curators right nowit's the Patreon Cove curators.
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They really are amazing andhave all been here from the very
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There are a couple of spotsleft.
That's an exclusive tier.
But along with everything elsethat I've mentioned already, you
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So thank you so much.
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You get an extra episode everymonth and that's really, if
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you're enjoying the four, thatyou're already getting a month
for free.
Why not throw in three bucksfor five episodes a month?
That would be so great to haveyou here in the community.
On Patreon there's also youknow, it's like a Facebook group
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and chat and everybody in thegroup can see what everyone else
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is saying about stuff.
So it's super cool.
Go ahead and check it out afterthe show if you have a moment.
But, as I mentioned, our guesttoday has been a curator from
the very, very beginning.
She's been encouraging me tomake this podcast since I first
mentioned that I was thinkingabout it and wanted to and have
wanted to, and she credits mefor supporting her and
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encouraging her.
But she does just as much forme and has done it for years.
She and her husband both and Icannot thank them enough and I'm
so happy to have her on theshow and talk about her creative
journey.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasewelcome to the Cargain and
online variety entertainmentpodcast.
Our guest this evening, missKrista King.
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Hi, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Thank you so much and yes, patreon, 100% worth it.
So much fun, all the perks, allthe extra stuff, absolutely
worth it.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Love you and so excited that you are here and
just want to jump in and sayyou've heard an episode before,
or two, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, I think I've caught one kind of yeah in
passing, driving to work orsomething.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So you know how we torture our guests with the 60
second icebreaker introductionchallenge, correct?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, and you think I would have been prepared for it
and rehearsed and have it downto exactly 60 seconds, but I
didn't remember it until today.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Hey, how long did mine take?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Six minutes, something like that, six minutes
yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Craig was like four or something like that.
There's never any pressure andyou know I don't stop people,
but we want to hear everythingabout you that you can possibly
fit in to what you think is 60seconds.
Are you ready for the challenge?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Go for it.
I got three, two, one.
Okay, I am married.
I just celebrated 20 yearsbeing married.
I love Disney.
I love Belle from Beauty andthe Beast that she's right there
.
I love music.
I love musicals.
I love to bake and give outbaked goods.
(09:48):
Somebody said it's my lovelanguage recently.
I like traveling, cruising andI love to travel.
I like cruising, I likeCatalina and going on like even
day trips just get me thereregenerates my soul.
I'm boring.
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I like TV and reading and musicand supporting my very, very
talented friends.
I don't know if that was aminute.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
That was 50 seconds.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, great job.
I'll add some follow-upquestions.
You mentioned you like TV,reading and music.
What are the top three thingsyou're watching on TV?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Currently we're rewatching the West Wing.
Okay, all of our shows are sodelayed because of the strike,
so nothing's really come backquite yet.
We are bouncing between WestWing and Resident Alien, which
is absolutely fantastic,hysterical, very good.
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What else have we been watchinglately?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Top three what's your favorite TV show of all time?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, it's probably going to be West Wing and
Friends.
I'm fluent, I did leave thatout.
I'm fluent in Friends.
I can speak a full thing inFriends quotes.
In fact, there's a couple vaguehidden in the first book, so
yeah, we're going to talk aboutthat first book, but let's
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finish the trifecta.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
What are you reading right now?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'm rereading the first romance I ever read the
Promise by Daniel Steele.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And what is your favorite musical group?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Musical group.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I can tell you my favorite Artist, singular, solo
artist.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
From the very beginning of life.
Rick Springfield, rickSpringfield.
Eighties, eighties, child,eighties, child.
First real concert I ever wentto was Rick Springfield.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Wow, what's that?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You ready?
Universal amphitheater, whichis now Waterworld.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Did you grow up in Southern California?
Tell us about Young Krista King.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Young Krista King.
I did.
I grew up in the San FernandoValley.
All over different places inthe San Fernando Valley, young
Krista wanted to be a dancer anda teacher when I was a kid.
As I grew up, that didn't quitestick.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So what did you want to teach?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I wanted to teach kindergarten, first grade.
I want to teach the little ones.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
But yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Did you always want to be a writer?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Here's the way I'm going to answer that I always
wanted to write.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I don't know that until much later in the game I
had ever even thought aboutpublishing and being a writer.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Okay, so we're going to get to that later in the game
moment.
Sure, but what happened betweenYoung Krista King and later in
the game?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I went to school at Birmingham High School in I
think they're calling I'm notsure if they're still calling it
Van Nuys, it might be LakeBalboa now.
There's a weird little thingaround that area.
So it was Birmingham HighSchool.
When I went there I worked as areceptionist a lot and did some
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customer service work and foundout that 21st century auto
insurance in Woodland Hillsworked four and a half day work
weeks.
At 1.15 on Friday they closedand everybody went home and I
said that's where I want to work.
I want Fridays off.
And so I worked and tried andtried and I finally got a job
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there in 1995, right after theearthquake which nearly took
them out.
I got a job there in the callcenter doing customer service
and it was awesome, for everyFriday afternoon I was out, I
went to the movies, I went, gotmy nails done.
It was great.
I had all this free time and Istayed and accidentally tripped
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over an IT job.
I was invited to represent thecall center in a new system that
they were building and somebodysaid you'd make a great QA
tester, come on over to IT.
And I switched over to IT andhave been in IT ever since.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And you still work for the auto insurance company.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, 21st is pretty much out of business.
Farmers purchased them in 2009.
I left for a year and then wentback to farmers.
On paper they have that I'vebeen employed with them for 24
years.
Yeah, 24 years is the lastthing I heard.
So I've been there since 95.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
So you're like a boss or something.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm a lead.
I can't say and I say what myactual title is.
Some people tease me a lot.
What's your actual title?
I'm a Scrum Master.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Scrum.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Master, yes, Scrum Master.
Scrum Master.
It's a we're Agile, so an AgileIT house is instead of
delivering the whole car in onedelivery, we're delivering
pieces of it, so you can makesure that everything is good
before we hand you the wholepicture.
So that's kind of what we do,and there's weird titles and
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stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I picture a Scrum Master working on a pirate ship.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Or overseeing, like illegal cockfights.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I have been told that it reminds someone that I am
like keeping the piece over arugby game.
Oh, it's a Scrum that they'rein when they start there.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I'm not cultured enough to get them.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, I'm just learned, all right.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Well, so that all happened.
But at some point you saidlater in the game you started to
think oh, I got stories insideme, I can share them.
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Well, I started writing before I knew what I was
really doing.
I would watch a movie, I wouldhear a song, I would watch a TV
show and decide that it wasn'tover, and so I would sit down
and I would finish it.
I'd finish the story for them.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's called fan fiction.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I didn't know.
I didn't know what it was, andthe summer before or between
junior high and high school, Itook a creative writing class
and found out that what I wasdoing was creative writing and
the teacher at was summer school.
He spent the first 30 minutesof every class giving us a
lesson and then he said writewhatever you want.
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Some of us were writing novels,some of us were writing
screenplays, some of us weredoodling and whatever we needed
to do.
I wrote 66 pages of the verybeginning of a novel, like it
had a beginning, middle and end.
It didn't have all the fancystuff, but it was 66 pages of
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character development and Ithought this is the greatest
thing there is.
I have a creative side and thisis what I'm going to do to feed
that creative side.
So I did.
I wrote a lot like all the time,and found myself with anywhere
from 10 to 15 manuscripts indifferent ways of being done.
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There were just characterdevelopment, some were just a
scene or two that had poppedinto my head and I never.
At the time they explained youhave to have a literary agent,
you need to have editors and youwould need to have publishers,
and I thought that's all toocomplicated.
I'll just write for myself.
Nobody ever needs to see itbecause I thought that was all I
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could do.
Enter Paul Carganella.
Hang on, hang on.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Before we get to that .
I was just about to explorethis idea that you would just do
it because you loved it, and Ithink that is paramount.
It is so important for anyone,so many people.
When you say, oh, I'm thinkingabout a career in this creative
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field, I'm thinking about acareer in this creative field,
the business-minded people say,but how are you going to make
money?
But the people who are thinkingabout that career don't
consider that as much as, like,this is what I do.
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You just said I do it all thetime.
It started as we had to do itas an assignment in class and
then I started doing it all thetime and that's what I wanted to
do in my free time.
And as you grow older, onceyou've picked a career, I think
and we've explored this topic onthe podcast before it's so
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important to feed that creativenature and that heart's fire in
your free time.
I have a full-time job in whichI work for a government agency,
but in all my free time I'mdoing this.
I mean hanging out with myfamily and doing this because I
love it and I love producing theshow.
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I love editing the episodes andputting them out and seeing how
people are perceived them orare affected by them.
It's just something inside youthat you can't explain to people
who maybe have never felt that.
They're just sad or just feelit in different ways.
If it's not creative, maybe thebusiness that watching their
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numbers grows brings them thatjoy.
But can you speak to?
What is it?
Do you think or how could youdescribe?
This might be a reallydifficult question to field, but
describe having free time andjust wanting to sit down and
write.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, I don't know how other writers feel about
this.
I don't know how othercreatives feel about this, but
there will be something thatwill enter my mind, a scene, a
character, something I have towrite it.
If I don't, I cannot think ofanything else.
I have to write it.
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I have to sit down.
If I'm not near a laptop, Ineed to write it down.
I'm like you're finally content, everything is perfect, it's
out there, the universe has gotit.
Now you can just relax.
It's just a thing.
It's just this need that youhave to.
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Somebody compared it tocreative OCD.
You just have to put it inplace, then you're fine.
You don't have to do anythingwith it.
It just needs to be out there.
That's just how the stuffbubbles up with me with these
stories.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
The next time you sit down and you read it, you feel
compelled to work on it and makeit better and polish it and
spend more time on it 100%.
After you sat down and wroteand got it on the page and felt
that achievement of getting itout there, did you have to have
other people read it to justifyor verify, or was it fine for
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you that you had created thatand it was there?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I had zero intentions of letting anybody
ever read it.
It was never my plan.
I think in all the years that Iwrote the stories that were
just on my computer and for me,I think I let someone read three
pages from one story because Iwasn't sure of the flow.
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I think a couple of people, Ilet them read a page, then that
was it.
It went well.
It wasn't like it was anegative experience.
The one person I gave threepages to gave me this incredible
compliment and said, oh my gosh, I could totally see him do
that Whoa in three pages.
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You know what he's going to do.
I thought, oh well, okay, thatwas fun, but nobody else can
read it.
I'm done.
Nobody else can read it.
Leave it alone.
It's all mine.
That was my plan is.
It was just going to be mything.
That was going to be that side.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
It's a paradox a lot of creators experience, in that
they feel the need to create,this fire, to create, but
they're too nervous aboutsharing it with people and
having it judged.
It's something we talk aboutoften, but it's such an
interesting thing to be anartist.
What you want to do is expressthe deepest, darkest secrets,
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sometimes from the corners, theshadows of your mind or your
heart, and put them under aspotlight and show them to
people and ask them to judgethem.
Tell me how good this is.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Why do we do these things?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Why do we do these things?
All right, what took you fromwriting for yourself to writing
for other people?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I hadn't written in quite a while.
I had decided that it was fun,but I was an adult and I had
things that I had to go adult.
It had probably been a goodthree or four years and I
ventured on a movie set, a smallshort film that you were
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shooting.
My husband was doing the camerawork and I thought, well,
wouldn't that be interesting togo and see how this happens, how
this all comes together?
That's so creative anddifferent and I need to figure
it out.
My foot crossed the thresholdof the front door and you said
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do you know computers?
Yeah, follow me.
I became your media manager forthree films from there that one
, the other short film and thenthe feature.
I thought, oh my gosh, peopleare saying Paul's words.
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He wrote stuff and people arereading it and I thought, huh,
that's interesting, that's aninteresting concept.
Maybe I should share some ofthis stuff, but I don't know how
.
I'm not even going to mess withit, don't worry about it.
Enter COVID, paul's onlinevariety show.
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Paul introduces Dylan White.
He's a triple threat, he'squadruple threat.
He's amazing.
Oh, by the way, he's apublished author.
And I went wait, what?
He's a what?
Now?
I said well, he's somebody Ineed to talk to.
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I, poor Dylan, I just startedbombarding him with hey, you're
a publisher, how'd you do that?
How'd you do it?
How'd you get on Amazon?
And how do you do this?
And how do you?
And Dylan, being you know thethink that he is is just like
all right, hang on, let's go onequestion at a time.
And he told me exactly how todo it and I went I could publish
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one of my stories, I could takeone of these blueprints and I
could turn it into somethingthat could be published and I
thought, oh, that's awesome, Icould totally do that.
And then I wrote one in it andI published it and I forgot that
other people were going to haveto read it.
I was like, oh, look at, Iwrote a book.
(26:33):
Oh gosh, people are reading itand leaving reviews and sending
me texts and messages, yeah, sothat's what it was.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You published a book and you forgot people were going
to read it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Well, and I had to have people start reading it
before we hit publishing.
I have content readers, I haveproof readers and I was like, oh
, I have to send it to peopleand asking them to judge it.
Hey, does the flow work?
Hey, does the character?
Do you hate the characters?
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Do you like the characters youknow?
Oh yeah, by the way, I get in awriting bubble and I know what
the words are supposed to be onthe page, but that's not
actually what my fingers do.
So can you take out a red penand circle stuff, because I
don't notice it?
So yeah, that was super, superchallenging to be like okay,
here, read it and judge it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But how did it feel when you did?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I was so scared the first time I did it.
I almost didn't do it.
I almost decided you know what?
We got this far.
Look at us.
Now let's step back and we'llget back up there again.
And I thought, nope, we justgot to do it Because you said
Paul's inspiration jump off thebuilding and see if you can
actually fly.
And if you can't, there's ashorter building next door.
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Go jump off that one and see ifyou can fly from that one and
then try again.
So it was.
I gave the first draft of thisbook to three content readers.
My goal was hey, tell me if theflow works.
Tell me if you hate thecharacters.
Tell me if you like thecharacter.
Tell me Three content readers.
(28:19):
One content reader came backand said yeah, I don't think the
door is going to work the waythat you said it's going to work
.
I said okay, and the rest of it?
Oh, no, the rest of it's great.
I just think that you don'tunderstand the mechanics of this
door that you're trying to lockand unlock.
I was like okay.
And the other two contentreaders are like oh my gosh,
(28:44):
it's great.
I'm like no, no, it can't begreat, it's the first draft.
Tell me what.
No, it's great.
Okay, that was, I wassurprising and I just went.
Okay, people can read it.
Just getting through that firsttime was great.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
After congratulations , by the way, Thank you, After
getting over that hump andgetting it out there and people
reading it.
Did you ever get any negativefeedback?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I didn't.
I kept waiting for it.
I kept waiting.
I have 17 reviews for the bookon Amazon.
The thing here is, thecommunity around me is very
strong.
I sold 124 books of the firstbook.
I didn't know.
I didn't do any marketing, Ididn't take out ads.
(29:43):
I used Facebook, I told peopleand I have 17 reviews, which is
for 124 books is prettyincredible, and my reviews, I
think, are at 4.9 out of 5 orsomething like that 4.8 out of 5
.
Really no negative comments.
In fact, one of my contentreaders was so taken with the
(30:05):
book that she said it can't beover.
This can't be the end of thesepeople, you need to keep it
going.
Her name is Kristen and she'sthe one who said it's got to
keep going.
So I ended up turning this intoa three-part series because of
(30:26):
her.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Okay, well, you derailed me twice in that one
answer, but so my question wasgoing to be how do you deal with
negative feedback?
But you haven't gotten any.
That's.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'm sure it'll come, but it's just, I haven't yet.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
How do you suppose you will deal with them?
But so then the second one wasall right, so you have another
one coming out.
When you sat down to write theright one, were there plans for
more.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Never.
There was not.
I wrote the book as astandalone and I sent it out to
content readers and my friendssaid I can't have it in there, I
need to know what's next, Ineed you to carry it on.
And so the biggest mistake Imade is I started paying
(31:25):
attention to rules and there Ibelong to a couple of writing
groups and I've listened toother authors and I started
listening to rules and I gotvery caught up in the rules of
writing a book, of writing aseries, and I thought, okay,
well, I don't know the rules,what are the rules to write a
series?
And I finally decided I reallydidn't care about the rules and
(31:51):
I just decided that I would justkeep, for it's going to be
three books total.
I just kept the same couple,kind of going through the top of
all three books and there'sstuff that's happening kind of
underneath that weaves into thatcouple.
And that was just.
I decided okay, book two.
(32:11):
I don't know when I'm going towrite it, I have no idea.
One is out there.
I moved on during postproduction to another story and
I'm not writing book two.
And when book one got publishedand was out there, the feedback
was oh my gosh, when am Igetting book two?
I was like, okay, I can do it,and I am heavily influenced by
(32:41):
music, heavily influenced bymusic, and I was stuck on book
two.
I was stuck.
Book two is really two romanceskind of at the same time and I
was stuck and a song, an 80slove ballad, and it broke me
through book two.
And now it's done and should beout in the next two to three
(33:04):
weeks.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
So was that song the right stuff by new kids on the
block?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It was not.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Oh, that was perfect.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yes, it would have, but no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
All right, well is, we'll talk about a little bit
more about book two before wesay goodbye tonight.
But, as you know, as you are aPatreon cove curator and a fan
of the show and you listen, youknow that when we have authors
on, we have authors read part oftheir book for the audience
(33:43):
live, and I offered you analternative for tonight.
And now would you like to havesome friends on to help read a
section of the book?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah you said yes, please bring on my friends.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
All right, so let's bring on some friends that are
going to help myself andproducer Craig read through a
section of the book.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasesay hello to Amanda Benjamin and
Amy Nalwai.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Amanda Yay.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
We remember Amanda Benjamin from so many episodes
here on season one of Cove andof course she is the host
hostess with the mostists forevery Wednesday night most
Wednesday nights, but every weekat least here on the Vodacity
Network with Amanda on Demanda.
And this is Amy's first time onthe cove.
(34:44):
Is it your first time onVodacity Network?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I was thinking about it and I was like maybe she
participated in a group songduring COVID.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Oh, I may have done one.
Yeah, she was yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Okay, well, not officially performer on the show
.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Definitely first time here and cove First time live
right, I'd pass yes.
And first time live.
Yes, thank you for joining us.
And, krista, we are going to bestarting on page 10.
Can you tell us what is goingon at this point in the book of
your very first published book,the Right On what?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Things for Kate are about to change.
Kate is our hero, our heroinein this.
She has been very content andcomfortable with her life as she
has had it set up, and thingsare about to change and she's
about to receive a largechallenge that is going to send
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her in a direction that willchange her life.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Kate walked down the hall to the third office, robert
Young was printed on the windownext to the left of the door.
She smiled a small smile as sheapproached.
He saved her life when she cameto the city.
He was a good friend and a goodboss so far.
Hello, she said walking in theoffice.
(36:48):
Rob's blonde head didn't liftfrom the screen.
She joked about his blonde hair.
He looked and acted like afull-on surfer Longish, blondish
, shaggy hair, great tan, and heactually did surf often.
But she still teased him aboutlooking like a surfer.
(37:09):
Hey, how are you.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Good.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
He answered still staring at the screen.
She sat on the chair directlyin front of him and waited, and
waited.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Uh, Rob, did you want me to come back?
My boss gets annoyed when Ijust sit around.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Oh no, uh sorry, kate , I was trying to finish this up
before you came in.
Oh, how are you?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Good.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You, she said, smiling at the fact they had
already done this part.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Oh you know, things are crazy as usual.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
How's Becca.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Becca was Rob's very pregnant wife, ready to pop
anytime.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
She's gonna hurt someone, I swear.
This lady innocently stepped infront of her when she was
reaching for ice cream at thestore.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Becca lost it, just for a fewmore weeks to keep her out of
prison.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I bet you called this morning what's up.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Oh yeah, um, you know , martha Anderson right.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
The Lovin Romance writer.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, she's going out for some surgery.
She's going to be gone forabout a month.
Her column is weekly and whileshe's out I need someone else to
write it.
We're going to need tobrainstorm and see what kind of
an idea can spread over, say,four weeks, and something simple
(39:04):
enough for you to pull it off.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
It's not a topic that I think about often and, as you
know, I don't know a lot about.
Wait, did you say somethingeasy for me to pull off?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, I need you.
Her column is pretty popularand I need to give it to someone
I can trust.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
But, rob, I am not romance, in fact, I am
anti-romance.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That's not true.
You just decided to ignore it.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Are you kidding?
You are quite clear on myromantic history.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
You're a good writer, come on, you can make anything
work.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I would have no clue where to start.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well, lately she's been writing about engagements
and whatnot, so I thought maybeyou could find a location that's
pretty popular for weddings andgo there.
Maybe you could follow a fewcouples maybe four to cover all
four weeks and write about theirexperiences.
(40:17):
How's that sound?
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Hello people through the process of getting married.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I know You're really you're not really the best
choice to report on this andit's been a while since you've
done a lot of this sort of thingand you hate weddings, but I
need your help.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Kate sat nodding at his list of reasons.
This was a small nightmare.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
I guess I mean, if I'm basically reporting their
wedding, I don't really need toadd anything like romantic stuff
.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Kate, is it gonna be okay?
You can do this.
Maybe it'll help you openyourself up to a little romance
again.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
When she and Rob met he was engaged to Becca, but
since they got married he wantedevery non-married person to be
married and as happy as he was.
But because he knew her story,he never pushed it with her.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Okay, it's just another assignment.
I'll start doing some researchand I'll see what I can come up
with.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Thank you, Kate.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
He said as she reached the door I'll get back
to you.
She walked out of his office.
She barely acknowledged anyoneon the way back to her office.
Cammie wasn't at her desk, soKate left a note to come in when
she got back.
Romance Weddings how is thisgoing to work?
(42:13):
Kate once believed in all ofthat, but after having to cancel
her own wedding the morning shewas supposed to get married,
happily ever after, didn't evencompute anymore.
Just then Cammie walked intothe office.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Hey, why did Ricky, the photo guy, ask me to clear
your schedule?
Wow, what's with the face?
Were you actually in trouble?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
No, martha Anderson is going to be out for like a
month or something.
Mr Young wants me to write afour-part wedding piece for her
column while she's gone.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Really you.
I mean, I know, you can writeanything, but I'm just surprised
.
I guess Me too.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
He wants me to treat it more like reporting on a
wedding of four couples at somepopular wedding location or
something.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Woohoo Road trip to Vegas.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
I don't think that's what he wants.
I just got the feeling he wantssomething off the beaten path.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Oh well, when does she leave?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
In a week.
So I need a location, travelarrangements, a couple or two,
and an article concept withinthe next few days or so.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
It's okay, kate, let's order in lunch today and
lock ourselves up until we finda location.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Kate agreed and they got to work.
They spent hours searching theinternet.
All of the common locationskept popping up.
They decided that they wanted awaterfront location, but where,
after four hours, a dreadedsuggestion finally came up.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Okay, now don't get mad at me or anything, but what
about Woodview?
You've shown me pictures andthis hotel right on the water,
where everyone wants to getmarried, keeps coming up.
It sounds perfect.
Why not go there?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Cami said, ignoring the growing look of horror on
Kate's face.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Are you out of your mind.
So not only would I need towrite a column about a subject I
struggle to believe in, but Ihave to do it at the scene of
the crime.
I think you're nuts, and wehave obviously been at this too
long.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Kate said standing and walking around her desk to
stretch.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Is this because of Jason and Chase?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Kate looked at her, pausing to answer with just the
right way.
Duh Was all she could come upwith.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Didn't you say that Jason reached out recently
trying to reconnect and you canjust ignore Chase if you even
run into him.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Yeah, jason and I texted a few times, but how can
I focus with all of that justfloating around?
Look?
Speaker 3 (45:21):
it's not a bad idea.
This place is ideal.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Cami said, pointing at the computer screen.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
I know, of course it is, but but see, there really is
no reason.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
In fact and I know this seems like it makes no
sense, but this might make thiswhole thing easier being on your
home turf, you already knoweverybody.
Why not Kate?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
She said breaking the silence in the room.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
You're right, I know you are.
It's been five years, so it'sall in the past, right, it'll be
fine.
Okay, cami, I'll start workingon the details with the hotel
and getting some couples.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Great, I'll get your travel stuff taken care of.
Do you want to stay in thathotel?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Cami said opening the door.
Yeah, it offers the leastcomplications, she said,
bringing a giant smile to Cami'sface.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Cami left the room by the end of the day.
She had made all of thearrangements with the hotel and
the couples and Cami had set upa flight for her.
Woodview was a mid-sized townabout an hour out of Portland.
She would fly but would stillneed to drive another hour, so
she rented a car too.
When she called Rob to fill himin and share the concept, he
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was thrilled and said she coulddo whatever she needed to do.
He had coverage for her at theoffice.
Jason popped into her mind.
She wanted to tell him she wascoming back, that she would be
around.
She wasn't sure why it mattered, but she wanted to.
She sat at her desk holding herphone, trying to figure out how
(47:16):
to word it.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I'm heading out.
Do you need anything before Ileave?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Cami said popping in.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
Do it without you.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Not true, but thanks.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Good night, have a good evening.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Cami left and Kate was left alone with her phone
again.
She didn't know what she wasnervous about.
It was a text for the love.
He couldn't get her through thephone.
The four attempts, the onlydecent version she came up with
was hey, it's Kate.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
Anyways, I just wanted to drop a note to let you
know that I'm coming up thereTo Oregon, to Woodview, In a few
days.
It's for work and I'll be therefor like a month or something.
Just wanted to let you know ifwe happen to see each other.
You'll know it's me.
Anyways, I guess I'll see you,or not?
Speaker 2 (48:23):
She shook her head, dropped her phone on the desk
and walked over to the window.
She and Jason had been friendsfor so long.
It's hard to believe she wouldever struggle sending him a text
.
She also had a tough timebelieving he would ever be
involved in betrayal,humiliation and the worst day of
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her life either.
She jumped when her phonevibrated on the desk.
She walked back over andstepped back away from the phone
like it was poison.
Jason was calling.
Why was he calling?
They hadn't gotten up to thetalking phase yet.
She had no idea what to do.
(49:03):
Finally, kate Brooks, she said,acting like she had no clue who
was on the phone, and that shewasn't in a panic.
Katie, jason's warm andfriendly voice, asked Jason.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, sorry to call.
I know we haven't talked in awhile, but I got your text.
You're coming home.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Well home.
I'm coming to Woodview to work.
Х Happy 있는.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
But you're gonna be here, be around.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
That's great.
Maybe we could meet for coffeeor something we can talk.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
She looked around the room.
She wanted that.
She wanted her best friend back, but not all the pain.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
I'm working while I'm up there, but sure, at some
point.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Where are you staying , the Lennox?
Speaker 5 (50:09):
A lot of my article is pretty much set there, so I
just thought it would be easier.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Oh, when are you coming in?
Speaker 5 (50:17):
Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Neither said anything for a minute.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
I'm looking forward to seeing you.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Kate didn't answer.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Well, I guess you have a lot of things to take
care of, so I'll let you go.
Yeah, thanks, I guess I'll seeyou soon.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Yeah, she hung up and put her phone down.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
I guess I'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
She hung up and put her phone back on the desk.
She stood and went back to thewindow, cursing Cammie for ever
coming up with the idea of goingback to Woodview.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, that's
just a small snippet from pages10 through 20 of the Right One,
written by Krista King.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Let's hear it for her .
Thank you, guys.
That was awesome, so much fun.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
I can't wait to find out what happens next as we
finish the book.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
This book is available right now, where
Krista King it is on Amazon,currently working to get it on a
couple other platforms, butright now definitely Amazon.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
The easiest thing to do just search the Right One,
Krista King, on Amazon that'sthe way to get it and tell us
about the sequel.
Is it called the Right 2?
Speaker 1 (52:04):
It's called the Right Time.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
And when can we expect that?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
We are in serious post-production at this point.
I have my third proofreaderfinishing up right now, but it
is formatted for the most part.
We're also finishing coverdesign and then it only takes
about a week, so hopefully byfirst week in February, that's
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the plan Wow, that's coming up.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
That's real soon.
I can't wait to do it.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
If you're listening to the podcast it might already
be out, so check it out onAmazon as well.
And of course, we want I'm notsaying goodbye to our performers
, but I do want to get a biground of applause for Amanda
Benjamin, amy Nalawai, craigJackman and, of course, the
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writer herself, krista King.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
And Paul Carganilla.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
It was a pleasure, krista.
We will leave our audience withthis.
If you have any advice foranyone out there considering
wanting to start a creativejourney, a creative process,
take a leap or get shoved off abuilding as you felt like you
kind of were.
What would you say to thosepeople?
(53:28):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Don't wait, jump off the mountain, take whatever
ideas you have and just do it.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Ladies and gentlemen, let's pullthe cart back in front of the
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Speaker 2 (02:11):
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Speaker 4 (02:15):
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And you know what, Paul here's the other thing you
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Nah, I don't know if I was an inspiration, I think I
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Go ahead and check it out afterthe show if you have a moment.
But, as I mentioned, our guesttoday has been a curator from
the very, very beginning.
She's been encouraging me tomake this podcast since I first
mentioned that I was thinkingabout it and wanted to and have
wanted to, and she credits mefor supporting her and
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encouraging her.
But she does just as much forme and has done it for years.
She and her husband both and Icannot thank them enough and I'm
so happy to have her on theshow and talk about her creative
journey.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasewelcome to the Cargain and
online variety entertainmentpodcast.
Our guest this evening, missKrista King.
(08:18):
Hi, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Thank you so much and yes, patreon, 100% worth it.
So much fun, all the perks, allthe extra stuff, absolutely
worth it.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Love you and so excited that you are here and
just want to jump in and sayyou've heard an episode before,
or two, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, I think I've caught one kind of yeah in
passing, driving to work orsomething.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So you know how we torture our guests with the 60
second icebreaker introductionchallenge, correct?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, and you think I would have been prepared for it
and rehearsed and have it downto exactly 60 seconds, but I
didn't remember it until today.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Hey, how long did mine take?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Six minutes, something like that, six minutes
yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Craig was like four or something like that.
There's never any pressure andyou know I don't stop people,
but we want to hear everythingabout you that you can possibly
fit in to what you think is 60seconds.
Are you ready for the challenge?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Go for it.
I got three, two, one.
Okay, I am married.
I just celebrated 20 yearsbeing married.
I love Disney.
I love Belle from Beauty andthe Beast that she's right there
.
I love music.
I love musicals.
I love to bake and give outbaked goods.
(09:48):
Somebody said it's my lovelanguage recently.
I like traveling, cruising andI love to travel.
I like cruising, I likeCatalina and going on like even
day trips just get me thereregenerates my soul.
I'm boring.
(10:09):
I like TV and reading and musicand supporting my very, very
talented friends.
I don't know if that was aminute.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
That was 50 seconds.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, great job.
I'll add some follow-upquestions.
You mentioned you like TV,reading and music.
What are the top three thingsyou're watching on TV?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Currently we're rewatching the West Wing.
Okay, all of our shows are sodelayed because of the strike,
so nothing's really come backquite yet.
We are bouncing between WestWing and Resident Alien, which
is absolutely fantastic,hysterical, very good.
(10:57):
What else have we been watchinglately?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Top three what's your favorite TV show of all time?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, it's probably going to be West Wing and
Friends.
I'm fluent, I did leave thatout.
I'm fluent in Friends.
I can speak a full thing inFriends quotes.
In fact, there's a couple vaguehidden in the first book, so
yeah, we're going to talk aboutthat first book, but let's
(11:32):
finish the trifecta.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
What are you reading right now?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'm rereading the first romance I ever read the
Promise by Daniel Steele.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And what is your favorite musical group?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Musical group.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I can tell you my favorite Artist, singular, solo
artist.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
From the very beginning of life.
Rick Springfield, rickSpringfield.
Eighties, eighties, child,eighties, child.
First real concert I ever wentto was Rick Springfield.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Wow, what's that?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You ready?
Universal amphitheater, whichis now Waterworld.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Did you grow up in Southern California?
Tell us about Young Krista King.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Young Krista King.
I did.
I grew up in the San FernandoValley.
All over different places inthe San Fernando Valley, young
Krista wanted to be a dancer anda teacher when I was a kid.
As I grew up, that didn't quitestick.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So what did you want to teach?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I wanted to teach kindergarten, first grade.
I want to teach the little ones.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
But yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Did you always want to be a writer?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Here's the way I'm going to answer that I always
wanted to write.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I don't know that until much later in the game I
had ever even thought aboutpublishing and being a writer.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Okay, so we're going to get to that later in the game
moment.
Sure, but what happened betweenYoung Krista King and later in
the game?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
I went to school at Birmingham High School in I
think they're calling I'm notsure if they're still calling it
Van Nuys, it might be LakeBalboa now.
There's a weird little thingaround that area.
So it was Birmingham HighSchool.
When I went there I worked as areceptionist a lot and did some
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customer service work and foundout that 21st century auto
insurance in Woodland Hillsworked four and a half day work
weeks.
At 1.15 on Friday they closedand everybody went home and I
said that's where I want to work.
I want Fridays off.
And so I worked and tried andtried and I finally got a job
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there in 1995, right after theearthquake which nearly took
them out.
I got a job there in the callcenter doing customer service
and it was awesome, for everyFriday afternoon I was out, I
went to the movies, I went, gotmy nails done.
It was great.
I had all this free time and Istayed and accidentally tripped
(14:29):
over an IT job.
I was invited to represent thecall center in a new system that
they were building and somebodysaid you'd make a great QA
tester, come on over to IT.
And I switched over to IT andhave been in IT ever since.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And you still work for the auto insurance company.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, 21st is pretty much out of business.
Farmers purchased them in 2009.
I left for a year and then wentback to farmers.
On paper they have that I'vebeen employed with them for 24
years.
Yeah, 24 years is the lastthing I heard.
So I've been there since 95.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
So you're like a boss or something.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm a lead.
I can't say and I say what myactual title is.
Some people tease me a lot.
What's your actual title?
I'm a Scrum Master.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Scrum.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Master, yes, Scrum Master.
Scrum Master.
It's a we're Agile, so an AgileIT house is instead of
delivering the whole car in onedelivery, we're delivering
pieces of it, so you can makesure that everything is good
before we hand you the wholepicture.
So that's kind of what we do,and there's weird titles and
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stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I picture a Scrum Master working on a pirate ship.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Or overseeing, like illegal cockfights.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I have been told that it reminds someone that I am
like keeping the piece over arugby game.
Oh, it's a Scrum that they'rein when they start there.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I'm not cultured enough to get them.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, I'm just learned, all right.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Well, so that all happened.
But at some point you saidlater in the game you started to
think oh, I got stories insideme, I can share them.
How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Well, I started writing before I knew what I was
really doing.
I would watch a movie, I wouldhear a song, I would watch a TV
show and decide that it wasn'tover, and so I would sit down
and I would finish it.
I'd finish the story for them.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's called fan fiction.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I didn't know.
I didn't know what it was, andthe summer before or between
junior high and high school, Itook a creative writing class
and found out that what I wasdoing was creative writing and
the teacher at was summer school.
He spent the first 30 minutesof every class giving us a
lesson and then he said writewhatever you want.
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Some of us were writing novels,some of us were writing
screenplays, some of us weredoodling and whatever we needed
to do.
I wrote 66 pages of the verybeginning of a novel, like it
had a beginning, middle and end.
It didn't have all the fancystuff, but it was 66 pages of
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character development and Ithought this is the greatest
thing there is.
I have a creative side and thisis what I'm going to do to feed
that creative side.
So I did.
I wrote a lot like all the time,and found myself with anywhere
from 10 to 15 manuscripts indifferent ways of being done.
(18:01):
There were just characterdevelopment, some were just a
scene or two that had poppedinto my head and I never.
At the time they explained youhave to have a literary agent,
you need to have editors and youwould need to have publishers,
and I thought that's all toocomplicated.
I'll just write for myself.
Nobody ever needs to see itbecause I thought that was all I
(18:25):
could do.
Enter Paul Carganella.
Hang on, hang on.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Before we get to that .
I was just about to explorethis idea that you would just do
it because you loved it, and Ithink that is paramount.
It is so important for anyone,so many people.
When you say, oh, I'm thinkingabout a career in this creative
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field, I'm thinking about acareer in this creative field,
the business-minded people say,but how are you going to make
money?
But the people who are thinkingabout that career don't
consider that as much as, like,this is what I do.
(19:17):
You just said I do it all thetime.
It started as we had to do itas an assignment in class and
then I started doing it all thetime and that's what I wanted to
do in my free time.
And as you grow older, onceyou've picked a career, I think
and we've explored this topic onthe podcast before it's so
(19:39):
important to feed that creativenature and that heart's fire in
your free time.
I have a full-time job in whichI work for a government agency,
but in all my free time I'mdoing this.
I mean hanging out with myfamily and doing this because I
love it and I love producing theshow.
(20:01):
I love editing the episodes andputting them out and seeing how
people are perceived them orare affected by them.
It's just something inside youthat you can't explain to people
who maybe have never felt that.
They're just sad or just feelit in different ways.
If it's not creative, maybe thebusiness that watching their
(20:21):
numbers grows brings them thatjoy.
But can you speak to?
What is it?
Do you think or how could youdescribe?
This might be a reallydifficult question to field, but
describe having free time andjust wanting to sit down and
write.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, I don't know how other writers feel about
this.
I don't know how othercreatives feel about this, but
there will be something thatwill enter my mind, a scene, a
character, something I have towrite it.
If I don't, I cannot think ofanything else.
I have to write it.
(21:04):
I have to sit down.
If I'm not near a laptop, Ineed to write it down.
I'm like you're finally content, everything is perfect, it's
out there, the universe has gotit.
Now you can just relax.
It's just a thing.
It's just this need that youhave to.
(21:25):
Somebody compared it tocreative OCD.
You just have to put it inplace, then you're fine.
You don't have to do anythingwith it.
It just needs to be out there.
That's just how the stuffbubbles up with me with these
stories.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
The next time you sit down and you read it, you feel
compelled to work on it and makeit better and polish it and
spend more time on it 100%.
After you sat down and wroteand got it on the page and felt
that achievement of getting itout there, did you have to have
other people read it to justifyor verify, or was it fine for
(22:11):
you that you had created thatand it was there?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I had zero intentions of letting anybody
ever read it.
It was never my plan.
I think in all the years that Iwrote the stories that were
just on my computer and for me,I think I let someone read three
pages from one story because Iwasn't sure of the flow.
(22:36):
I think a couple of people, Ilet them read a page, then that
was it.
It went well.
It wasn't like it was anegative experience.
The one person I gave threepages to gave me this incredible
compliment and said, oh my gosh, I could totally see him do
that Whoa in three pages.
(22:57):
You know what he's going to do.
I thought, oh well, okay, thatwas fun, but nobody else can
read it.
I'm done.
Nobody else can read it.
Leave it alone.
It's all mine.
That was my plan is.
It was just going to be mything.
That was going to be that side.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
It's a paradox a lot of creators experience, in that
they feel the need to create,this fire, to create, but
they're too nervous aboutsharing it with people and
having it judged.
It's something we talk aboutoften, but it's such an
interesting thing to be anartist.
What you want to do is expressthe deepest, darkest secrets,
(23:36):
sometimes from the corners, theshadows of your mind or your
heart, and put them under aspotlight and show them to
people and ask them to judgethem.
Tell me how good this is.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Why do we do these things?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Why do we do these things?
All right, what took you fromwriting for yourself to writing
for other people?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I hadn't written in quite a while.
I had decided that it was fun,but I was an adult and I had
things that I had to go adult.
It had probably been a goodthree or four years and I
ventured on a movie set, a smallshort film that you were
(24:27):
shooting.
My husband was doing the camerawork and I thought, well,
wouldn't that be interesting togo and see how this happens, how
this all comes together?
That's so creative anddifferent and I need to figure
it out.
My foot crossed the thresholdof the front door and you said
(24:48):
do you know computers?
Yeah, follow me.
I became your media manager forthree films from there that one
, the other short film and thenthe feature.
I thought, oh my gosh, peopleare saying Paul's words.
(25:09):
He wrote stuff and people arereading it and I thought, huh,
that's interesting, that's aninteresting concept.
Maybe I should share some ofthis stuff, but I don't know how
.
I'm not even going to mess withit, don't worry about it.
Enter COVID, paul's onlinevariety show.
(25:30):
Paul introduces Dylan White.
He's a triple threat, he'squadruple threat.
He's amazing.
Oh, by the way, he's apublished author.
And I went wait, what?
He's a what?
Now?
I said well, he's somebody Ineed to talk to.
(25:52):
I, poor Dylan, I just startedbombarding him with hey, you're
a publisher, how'd you do that?
How'd you do it?
How'd you get on Amazon?
And how do you do this?
And how do you?
And Dylan, being you know thethink that he is is just like
all right, hang on, let's go onequestion at a time.
And he told me exactly how todo it and I went I could publish
(26:12):
one of my stories, I could takeone of these blueprints and I
could turn it into somethingthat could be published and I
thought, oh, that's awesome, Icould totally do that.
And then I wrote one in it andI published it and I forgot that
other people were going to haveto read it.
I was like, oh, look at, Iwrote a book.
(26:33):
Oh gosh, people are reading itand leaving reviews and sending
me texts and messages, yeah, sothat's what it was.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You published a book and you forgot people were going
to read it.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Well, and I had to have people start reading it
before we hit publishing.
I have content readers, I haveproof readers and I was like, oh
, I have to send it to peopleand asking them to judge it.
Hey, does the flow work?
Hey, does the character?
Do you hate the characters?
(27:06):
Do you like the characters youknow?
Oh yeah, by the way, I get in awriting bubble and I know what
the words are supposed to be onthe page, but that's not
actually what my fingers do.
So can you take out a red penand circle stuff, because I
don't notice it?
So yeah, that was super, superchallenging to be like okay,
here, read it and judge it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But how did it feel when you did?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I was so scared the first time I did it.
I almost didn't do it.
I almost decided you know what?
We got this far.
Look at us.
Now let's step back and we'llget back up there again.
And I thought, nope, we justgot to do it Because you said
Paul's inspiration jump off thebuilding and see if you can
actually fly.
And if you can't, there's ashorter building next door.
(27:58):
Go jump off that one and see ifyou can fly from that one and
then try again.
So it was.
I gave the first draft of thisbook to three content readers.
My goal was hey, tell me if theflow works.
Tell me if you hate thecharacters.
Tell me if you like thecharacter.
Tell me Three content readers.
(28:19):
One content reader came backand said yeah, I don't think the
door is going to work the waythat you said it's going to work
.
I said okay, and the rest of it?
Oh, no, the rest of it's great.
I just think that you don'tunderstand the mechanics of this
door that you're trying to lockand unlock.
I was like okay.
And the other two contentreaders are like oh my gosh,
(28:44):
it's great.
I'm like no, no, it can't begreat, it's the first draft.
Tell me what.
No, it's great.
Okay, that was, I wassurprising and I just went.
Okay, people can read it.
Just getting through that firsttime was great.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
After congratulations , by the way, Thank you, After
getting over that hump andgetting it out there and people
reading it.
Did you ever get any negativefeedback?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I didn't.
I kept waiting for it.
I kept waiting.
I have 17 reviews for the bookon Amazon.
The thing here is, thecommunity around me is very
strong.
I sold 124 books of the firstbook.
I didn't know.
I didn't do any marketing, Ididn't take out ads.
(29:43):
I used Facebook, I told peopleand I have 17 reviews, which is
for 124 books is prettyincredible, and my reviews, I
think, are at 4.9 out of 5 orsomething like that 4.8 out of 5
.
Really no negative comments.
In fact, one of my contentreaders was so taken with the
(30:05):
book that she said it can't beover.
This can't be the end of thesepeople, you need to keep it
going.
Her name is Kristen and she'sthe one who said it's got to
keep going.
So I ended up turning this intoa three-part series because of
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her.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Okay, well, you derailed me twice in that one
answer, but so my question wasgoing to be how do you deal with
negative feedback?
But you haven't gotten any.
That's.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'm sure it'll come, but it's just, I haven't yet.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
How do you suppose you will deal with them?
But so then the second one wasall right, so you have another
one coming out.
When you sat down to write theright one, were there plans for
more.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Never.
There was not.
I wrote the book as astandalone and I sent it out to
content readers and my friendssaid I can't have it in there, I
need to know what's next, Ineed you to carry it on.
And so the biggest mistake Imade is I started paying
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attention to rules and there Ibelong to a couple of writing
groups and I've listened toother authors and I started
listening to rules and I gotvery caught up in the rules of
writing a book, of writing aseries, and I thought, okay,
well, I don't know the rules,what are the rules to write a
series?
And I finally decided I reallydidn't care about the rules and
(31:51):
I just decided that I would justkeep, for it's going to be
three books total.
I just kept the same couple,kind of going through the top of
all three books and there'sstuff that's happening kind of
underneath that weaves into thatcouple.
And that was just.
I decided okay, book two.
(32:11):
I don't know when I'm going towrite it, I have no idea.
One is out there.
I moved on during postproduction to another story and
I'm not writing book two.
And when book one got publishedand was out there, the feedback
was oh my gosh, when am Igetting book two?
I was like, okay, I can do it,and I am heavily influenced by
(32:41):
music, heavily influenced bymusic, and I was stuck on book
two.
I was stuck.
Book two is really two romanceskind of at the same time and I
was stuck and a song, an 80slove ballad, and it broke me
through book two.
And now it's done and should beout in the next two to three
(33:04):
weeks.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
So was that song the right stuff by new kids on the
block?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It was not.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Oh, that was perfect.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yes, it would have, but no, it's not.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
All right, well is, we'll talk about a little bit
more about book two before wesay goodbye tonight.
But, as you know, as you are aPatreon cove curator and a fan
of the show and you listen, youknow that when we have authors
on, we have authors read part oftheir book for the audience
(33:43):
live, and I offered you analternative for tonight.
And now would you like to havesome friends on to help read a
section of the book?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah you said yes, please bring on my friends.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
All right, so let's bring on some friends that are
going to help myself andproducer Craig read through a
section of the book.
Ladies and gentlemen, pleasesay hello to Amanda Benjamin and
Amy Nalwai.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Amanda Yay.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
We remember Amanda Benjamin from so many episodes
here on season one of Cove andof course she is the host
hostess with the mostists forevery Wednesday night most
Wednesday nights, but every weekat least here on the Vodacity
Network with Amanda on Demanda.
And this is Amy's first time onthe cove.
(34:44):
Is it your first time onVodacity Network?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I was thinking about it and I was like maybe she
participated in a group songduring COVID.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Oh, I may have done one.
Yeah, she was yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Okay, well, not officially performer on the show
.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Definitely first time here and cove First time live
right, I'd pass yes.
And first time live.
Yes, thank you for joining us.
And, krista, we are going to bestarting on page 10.
Can you tell us what is goingon at this point in the book of
your very first published book,the Right On what?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Things for Kate are about to change.
Kate is our hero, our heroinein this.
She has been very content andcomfortable with her life as she
has had it set up, and thingsare about to change and she's
about to receive a largechallenge that is going to send
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her in a direction that willchange her life.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Kate walked down the hall to the third office, robert
Young was printed on the windownext to the left of the door.
She smiled a small smile as sheapproached.
He saved her life when she cameto the city.
He was a good friend and a goodboss so far.
Hello, she said walking in theoffice.
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Rob's blonde head didn't liftfrom the screen.
She joked about his blonde hair.
He looked and acted like afull-on surfer Longish, blondish
, shaggy hair, great tan, and heactually did surf often.
But she still teased him aboutlooking like a surfer.
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Hey, how are you.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I'm good.
How are you?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Good.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
He answered still staring at the screen.
She sat on the chair directlyin front of him and waited, and
waited.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Uh, Rob, did you want me to come back?
My boss gets annoyed when Ijust sit around.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Oh no, uh sorry, kate , I was trying to finish this up
before you came in.
Oh, how are you?
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Good.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
You, she said, smiling at the fact they had
already done this part.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Oh you know, things are crazy as usual.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
How's Becca.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Becca was Rob's very pregnant wife, ready to pop
anytime.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
She's gonna hurt someone, I swear.
This lady innocently stepped infront of her when she was
reaching for ice cream at thestore.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Becca lost it, just for a fewmore weeks to keep her out of
prison.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I bet you called this morning what's up.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Oh yeah, um, you know , martha Anderson right.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
The Lovin Romance writer.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, she's going out for some surgery.
She's going to be gone forabout a month.
Her column is weekly and whileshe's out I need someone else to
write it.
We're going to need tobrainstorm and see what kind of
an idea can spread over, say,four weeks, and something simple
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enough for you to pull it off.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
It's not a topic that I think about often and, as you
know, I don't know a lot about.
Wait, did you say somethingeasy for me to pull off?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, I need you.
Her column is pretty popularand I need to give it to someone
I can trust.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
But, rob, I am not romance, in fact, I am
anti-romance.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That's not true.
You just decided to ignore it.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Are you kidding?
You are quite clear on myromantic history.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
You're a good writer, come on, you can make anything
work.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I would have no clue where to start.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well, lately she's been writing about engagements
and whatnot, so I thought maybeyou could find a location that's
pretty popular for weddings andgo there.
Maybe you could follow a fewcouples maybe four to cover all
four weeks and write about theirexperiences.
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How's that sound?
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Hello people through the process of getting married.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
I know You're really you're not really the best
choice to report on this andit's been a while since you've
done a lot of this sort of thingand you hate weddings, but I
need your help.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Kate sat nodding at his list of reasons.
This was a small nightmare.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
I guess I mean, if I'm basically reporting their
wedding, I don't really need toadd anything like romantic stuff
.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
Kate, is it gonna be okay?
You can do this.
Maybe it'll help you openyourself up to a little romance
again.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
When she and Rob met he was engaged to Becca, but
since they got married he wantedevery non-married person to be
married and as happy as he was.
But because he knew her story,he never pushed it with her.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Okay, it's just another assignment.
I'll start doing some researchand I'll see what I can come up
with.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Thank you, Kate.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
He said as she reached the door I'll get back
to you.
She walked out of his office.
She barely acknowledged anyoneon the way back to her office.
Cammie wasn't at her desk, soKate left a note to come in when
she got back.
Romance Weddings how is thisgoing to work?
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Kate once believed in all ofthat, but after having to cancel
her own wedding the morning shewas supposed to get married,
happily ever after, didn't evencompute anymore.
Just then Cammie walked intothe office.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Hey, why did Ricky, the photo guy, ask me to clear
your schedule?
Wow, what's with the face?
Were you actually in trouble?
Speaker 5 (42:42):
No, martha Anderson is going to be out for like a
month or something.
Mr Young wants me to write afour-part wedding piece for her
column while she's gone.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Really you.
I mean, I know, you can writeanything, but I'm just surprised
.
I guess Me too.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
He wants me to treat it more like reporting on a
wedding of four couples at somepopular wedding location or
something.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Woohoo Road trip to Vegas.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
I don't think that's what he wants.
I just got the feeling he wantssomething off the beaten path.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Oh well, when does she leave?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
In a week.
So I need a location, travelarrangements, a couple or two,
and an article concept withinthe next few days or so.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
It's okay, kate, let's order in lunch today and
lock ourselves up until we finda location.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Kate agreed and they got to work.
They spent hours searching theinternet.
All of the common locationskept popping up.
They decided that they wanted awaterfront location, but where,
after four hours, a dreadedsuggestion finally came up.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Okay, now don't get mad at me or anything, but what
about Woodview?
You've shown me pictures andthis hotel right on the water,
where everyone wants to getmarried, keeps coming up.
It sounds perfect.
Why not go there?
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Cami said, ignoring the growing look of horror on
Kate's face.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Are you out of your mind.
So not only would I need towrite a column about a subject I
struggle to believe in, but Ihave to do it at the scene of
the crime.
I think you're nuts, and wehave obviously been at this too
long.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Kate said standing and walking around her desk to
stretch.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Is this because of Jason and Chase?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Kate looked at her, pausing to answer with just the
right way.
Duh Was all she could come upwith.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Didn't you say that Jason reached out recently
trying to reconnect and you canjust ignore Chase if you even
run into him.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
Yeah, jason and I texted a few times, but how can
I focus with all of that justfloating around?
Look?
Speaker 3 (45:21):
it's not a bad idea.
This place is ideal.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Cami said, pointing at the computer screen.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
I know, of course it is, but but see, there really is
no reason.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
In fact and I know this seems like it makes no
sense, but this might make thiswhole thing easier being on your
home turf, you already knoweverybody.
Why not Kate?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
She said breaking the silence in the room.
Speaker 5 (45:55):
You're right, I know you are.
It's been five years, so it'sall in the past, right, it'll be
fine.
Okay, cami, I'll start workingon the details with the hotel
and getting some couples.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Great, I'll get your travel stuff taken care of.
Do you want to stay in thathotel?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Cami said opening the door.
Yeah, it offers the leastcomplications, she said,
bringing a giant smile to Cami'sface.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Cami left the room by the end of the day.
She had made all of thearrangements with the hotel and
the couples and Cami had set upa flight for her.
Woodview was a mid-sized townabout an hour out of Portland.
She would fly but would stillneed to drive another hour, so
she rented a car too.
When she called Rob to fill himin and share the concept, he
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was thrilled and said she coulddo whatever she needed to do.
He had coverage for her at theoffice.
Jason popped into her mind.
She wanted to tell him she wascoming back, that she would be
around.
She wasn't sure why it mattered, but she wanted to.
She sat at her desk holding herphone, trying to figure out how
(47:16):
to word it.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I'm heading out.
Do you need anything before Ileave?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Cami said popping in.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
Do it without you.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Not true, but thanks.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Good night, have a good evening.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Cami left and Kate was left alone with her phone
again.
She didn't know what she wasnervous about.
It was a text for the love.
He couldn't get her through thephone.
The four attempts, the onlydecent version she came up with
was hey, it's Kate.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
Anyways, I just wanted to drop a note to let you
know that I'm coming up thereTo Oregon, to Woodview, In a few
days.
It's for work and I'll be therefor like a month or something.
Just wanted to let you know ifwe happen to see each other.
You'll know it's me.
Anyways, I guess I'll see you,or not?
Speaker 2 (48:23):
She shook her head, dropped her phone on the desk
and walked over to the window.
She and Jason had been friendsfor so long.
It's hard to believe she wouldever struggle sending him a text
.
She also had a tough timebelieving he would ever be
involved in betrayal,humiliation and the worst day of
(48:43):
her life either.
She jumped when her phonevibrated on the desk.
She walked back over andstepped back away from the phone
like it was poison.
Jason was calling.
Why was he calling?
They hadn't gotten up to thetalking phase yet.
She had no idea what to do.
(49:03):
Finally, kate Brooks, she said,acting like she had no clue who
was on the phone, and that shewasn't in a panic.
Katie, jason's warm andfriendly voice, asked Jason.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, sorry to call.
I know we haven't talked in awhile, but I got your text.
You're coming home.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Well home.
I'm coming to Woodview to work.
Х Happy 있는.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
But you're gonna be here, be around.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
That's great.
Maybe we could meet for coffeeor something we can talk.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
She looked around the room.
She wanted that.
She wanted her best friend back, but not all the pain.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
I'm working while I'm up there, but sure, at some
point.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
Where are you staying , the Lennox?
Speaker 5 (50:09):
A lot of my article is pretty much set there, so I
just thought it would be easier.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Oh, when are you coming in?
Speaker 5 (50:17):
Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Neither said anything for a minute.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
I'm looking forward to seeing you.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Kate didn't answer.
Speaker 4 (50:38):
Well, I guess you have a lot of things to take
care of, so I'll let you go.
Yeah, thanks, I guess I'll seeyou soon.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Yeah, she hung up and put her phone down.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
I guess I'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
She hung up and put her phone back on the desk.
She stood and went back to thewindow, cursing Cammie for ever
coming up with the idea of goingback to Woodview.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, that's
just a small snippet from pages10 through 20 of the Right One,
written by Krista King.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Let's hear it for her .
Thank you, guys.
That was awesome, so much fun.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
I can't wait to find out what happens next as we
finish the book.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
This book is available right now, where
Krista King it is on Amazon,currently working to get it on a
couple other platforms, butright now definitely Amazon.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
The easiest thing to do just search the Right One,
Krista King, on Amazon that'sthe way to get it and tell us
about the sequel.
Is it called the Right 2?
Speaker 1 (52:04):
It's called the Right Time.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
And when can we expect that?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
We are in serious post-production at this point.
I have my third proofreaderfinishing up right now, but it
is formatted for the most part.
We're also finishing coverdesign and then it only takes
about a week, so hopefully byfirst week in February, that's
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the plan Wow, that's coming up.
Speaker 5 (52:34):
That's real soon.
I can't wait to do it.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
If you're listening to the podcast it might already
be out, so check it out onAmazon as well.
And of course, we want I'm notsaying goodbye to our performers
, but I do want to get a biground of applause for Amanda
Benjamin, amy Nalawai, craigJackman and, of course, the
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writer herself, krista King.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
And Paul Carganilla.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
It was a pleasure, krista.
We will leave our audience withthis.
If you have any advice foranyone out there considering
wanting to start a creativejourney, a creative process,
take a leap or get shoved off abuilding as you felt like you
kind of were.
What would you say to thosepeople?
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Do it?
Speaker 1 (53:30):
Don't wait, jump off the mountain, take whatever
ideas you have and just do it.
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