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November 16, 2025 28 mins

In this special live Web Summit edition from Lisbon, I sit down with Tom Haworth, founder of B13.ai, to talk about why “good enough” AI might actually be one of the most dangerous places we can get stuck.

And you’ll hear Tom say it’s time for the leaders of vibe coding platforms (e.g. Lovable, Replit, Cursor) to acknowledge that they’re great when you need to “demo not memo”, but not great (today and maybe ever) at delivering production-grade, secure code. 

We also make a few detours as we detail a ridiculous week in Lisbon, including:

  • How (shocker!) 90% of the conference was about AI
  • Why “good enough” AI is not a good place to be
  • Whether we’ll graduate to great AI
  • AI’s ROI now and in the future
  • Why it’s still iffy whether AI agents they can be trusted to accomplish complex jobs
  • Robots wander Web Summit, do the Macarena, fall down
  • How tennis great Maria Sharapova uses (IBM’s) AI 
  • How the presumptuous Web Summit’s app prominently suggests we all message Maria… (as if!) 
  • Visa wants to help creators monetize (yay! it me!), using Web3 technologies (yes, they said “Web3”; no, I was not expecting to hear a non-ironic use of that phrase)
  • Why self-driving cars are the best robots — and coming soon to more of Europe
  • How much Web Summit pampers (and corrupts) the media: I was like a stuffed goose. Hurray for Portuguese custard and other delicacies!
  • How even the beer at Web Summit was high tech

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Featured voices:

  • Tom Haworth: Founder of B13.ai, a software consultancy that "empowers non-technical innovators and organizations to build with confidence, delivering market-ready solutions that we design, launch and run."
  • Me (Dan Blumberg) — I’m the host of CRAFTED. and the founder of Modern Product Minds. HMU if you want to build something great. I love building from zero to one.

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