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 In today’s episode, I’m thrilled to welcome Cheryl (they/them), a Certified Trifecta Alchemist and neurodivergent entrepreneur who’s passionate about creating trauma-informed and inclusive spaces for healing and growth. Cheryl empowers clients to tap into their full potential through a unique blend of Neurosomatics, Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), and gender-inclusive practices.

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Sophie Riley (00:02):
Welcome to Create Automate and Scale podcast.
I'm your host, sophie Reilly,an automation nerd, business
strategist and CEO and founderof the VIP Hub.
If you are an entrepreneurlooking to create more impact,
automate your system and scaleyour business, you're in the
right place Today.
I am so, so excited to bejoined by Cheryl to have Cheryl

(00:26):
on the show, one of my absolutefavorite human ever.
We are tackling such aninteresting topic.
Cheryl, who uses the pronounsthey, them is a certified
trifecta alchemist and aneurodivergent entrepreneur
who's passionate about creatingtrauma-informed and inclusive

(00:47):
spaces for healing and personalgrowth.
Cheryl empowers her clients tounlock their potential through a
unique blend of neurosomatics,emotional freedom, technique and
gender-inclusive practices.
Hi and welcome to CreateAutomate and Scale podcast.

(01:09):
Tune in to this inspirational,straight-to-the-point, relatable
content for entrepreneurs tohelp you mastermind the everyday
hassle, give you business tips,networking opportunities,
shameless money talks andscaling secrets Created to
support you, to support coachesand course creators just like

(01:33):
you, to help you take action,stop trading dollars for hours
and explode your business.
It's time to hit thatsix-figure and beyond.
Let's go.
In this episode, we are goingto tackle somatics for autistic

(01:54):
entrepreneurs.
We'll dive into thetransformative world of
neurosomatics and how it canhelp autistic entrepreneur like
you regulate your nervous system, reduce overwhelm and bounce
back from burnout, meltdowns andoverstimulation.
If you've ever felt stuck ordisconnected, this is the

(02:20):
episode for you.
Let's get into it.

Cheryl Folland (02:22):
Welcome.
My name is Cheryl and I usethey them pronouns.
I am the owner and creatorbehind Queer Alchemy.
It's a metaphysical brand thatis designed for one-on-one and
group coaching, mentorship andspirituality in a way that is

(02:43):
accessible for neurodivergentfolks, gender diverse folks and
people with different physicalabilities.
Today I'm going to share withyou how somatic practices helped
me, as an autistic person, gainconfidence, moving through
overwhelming situations.
Confidence moving throughoverwhelming situations,

(03:05):
combating and limiting autisticburnout and rebounding quicker
after a meltdown.
I'm so excited that you're here.
When Sophie Riley, my friendand internet bestie, invited me
to share a teaching from anautistic perspective, I was

(03:25):
stoked and a little intimidatedbecause imposter syndrome creeps
in there and you're like am Iautistic enough?
Because I'm articulate, andthen we cast that out the window
.
So if you're here and youidentify as autistic, regardless
of whether or not you areclinically diagnosed, welcome.

(03:47):
If you think you might beautistic, if you prefer terms
like neurodivergent or neurospicy, you're also welcome.
Let's talk a little bit aboutthe word somatic.
So soma is where we're talkingabout the body.

(04:07):
Whenever you hear the word soma, think body.
So when you're on the internetand you see all of these
different practitioners andservice providers, and they're
talking about somatic processesor neurosomatics.
They're talking about theconnection between your brain
and your physical body when westart to bring in energetics.

(04:31):
We're talking about theconnection between your physical
body, your brain, which is runon electricity, and the
electromagnetics between you,your brain and the world around
you, depending on the practicesthat you do yoga, kundalini yoga

(04:52):
, meditation, sound therapy, anyof these different practices
that you've seen on the internet, that you've seen on social
media, that you've seenpracticed in studios around your
community.
They're all designed to takethe different parts of our human

(05:16):
experience and bring them backinto integration, because for a
long time, humans didn't livecompartmentalized lives.
We were one with nature andnature was one with us.
Over time, society has evolvedto compartmentalize people and
it's putting stress on thenervous system and those of us

(05:40):
who would have been knowledgekeepers.
We would have been the ones whopredicted the weather because
we feel it in our body sooner.
We would have been the ones toalert others to danger because
of a heightened sense of smell,heightened sense of touch, more
sensitivity to physicalenvironment like temperature.
All of these things that arenow considered autistic traits

(06:04):
had functional uses in humanevolution.
Through the power ofneurosomatics, we can increase
or decrease the vibration insideof ourself and either invite or
repel different energies.
I know this might seem a littlemystical and a little ambiguous,

(06:26):
but I promise it's measurableby science.
I want you to think for amoment back to grade school
science, when they were talkingabout matter, molecules,
electrons, protons, etc.
All matter moves.
It moves at a speed that cannotbe witnessed by the human eye,

(06:52):
but it can be measured by toolsthat have been invented and are
continually being invented.
Like.
Isn't it cool now that theyhave cameras that can take a
picture of your electromagneticfield?
They've given color values todifferent vibrations and you can
actually measure how far outfrom your body your

(07:16):
electromagnetic field projects.
Now, if you are the kind ofperson who can tell when an
animal or a human being islooking at you without turning
around and you've verified thisbecause you turn around and sure
enough they're staring at youwelcome.
You already have an awarenessof your electromagnetic field.

(07:38):
Kundalini yoga what I'mcertified in, that I teach
people how to do uses differentpostures with our hands and
bodies, known as mudras andbandhas.
It has breathwork patterns andmantras, or sound codes that
change the vibrational patternof our physical body, affecting

(08:00):
the chakra system within ourelectrical body, and that has an
impact on our electromagneticfield, our aura or our energetic
body.
Okay, so in trifecta alchemy,in queer alchemy, we focus on
these three places, becausemindset work for autistic people

(08:24):
doesn't really work.
We're often at the mercy ofintrusive thoughts, we
miscommunicate with others andeven with ourselves.
Sometimes Grasping rules thatserve no purpose and change over
time can be difficult,difficult.

(08:49):
Mindset work alone often leavesless to be desired for autistic
folks.
However, being able to do apractice that moves my body,
that has me in control of mybreath, that has me using
different things that give thesatisfaction of stimming If
you're new here, stimming is theterm we use to talk about

(09:10):
self-stimulating behavior usedto regulate your nervous system
so I get to use all of thesethings every day to support and
anchor myself, and in doing soit has helped me go from a
person who was hiding in my room, completely reclused and drawn

(09:32):
away from social situations,from anything that had like an
emotional, energetic taxation onme.
I couldn't work in theworkforce regularly because it
was too loud, it was too much,the rules always changed and
there was pressure to socializeinstead of just go in, do my job

(09:54):
, get out, and it led me to thisplace of isolation.
It led me to this place of whatis the point of life if all I'm
doing is managing burnout and Inever fully feel like I have
hope to do anything without itbeing so costly.
What is the point?

(10:15):
Then I found kundalini yoga.
I started with a practicethat's very simple.
You just sit cross-legged or ona chair with your feet on the
floor.
Cross-legged, or on a chairwith your feet on the floor, you
put your palms facing upwardand your thumbs tucked in.
Then you bring your handstogether, palms up, pinkies

(10:37):
towards each other and the meatof your hands are touching, and
you touch them together, and asyou touch them together, you say
then you bring your hands backout, flip them over, bring them
back in and hit the part by yourbum and say hud, and you do
that for three minutes, sittingwith your eyes closed hud, hud,

(11:04):
hud, hud, h, hud, hud.
When I first started doing thatpractice, I thought this is
silly.
There is no way that slappingmy hands together, sitting
cross-legged on the floor andchanting a sound is going to
change my life.
At that point, though I was sodesperate I was on

(11:27):
antidepressants for an illnessthat I didn't have because I was
undiagnosed autistic.
I had started and stopped somany things that I was carrying
a lot of shame and guilt.
And I had seen that this hadworked for my mentor, who was

(11:49):
self-declared ADHD diagnosedfrom childhood.
So what it allowed me to do wasto see that someone else had
gone and done this and hadresults.
So I said what have I got tolose?
I'm already sitting at home.
Nobody's here to witness mefeeling silly, nobody's here to
witness my body making thesounds that it makes, to see
what's difficult or easy for me.

(12:10):
And I went into it.
I let myself trust the processand now here I am, three years
later.
I'm certified in this modality.
I spend my days mentoring andspiritually guiding folks just
like me to find the fit of thetools for them that make them

(12:33):
feel like they love the lifethey're living.
What if simply adding somethingfor 11 minutes every day had
the potential to reduce yourreactivity, had the potential to
limit the length that burnouthappens for you, and it had the

(12:54):
potential to cut through theoverwhelm in the moment that
it's happening so you can say hi, body.
We're safe.
You're okay.
I see you're overstimulatedright now.
Maybe we need to take a break.
It allows you to own youragency and your power so that,

(13:20):
instead of the world happeningto you, you are happening to the
world.
That shift happens over time.
It's not instantaneous, but itis possible.
As an autistic entrepreneur, Ihad to let go of the idea of

(13:41):
building a work schedule that Ifollow every single day and
instead I had to allow a periodof exploration.
So for one year I tried thethings that I wanted to try.
I tried to launch the programsthat I wanted to launch.
I said yes to the clients thatI wanted to work with and I

(14:03):
listened to my body, andsometimes I had to cancel,
sometimes I had to move things,but what I've learned is that my
body is very affected by thesunlight and I live in Canada,
so I no longer launch, create orhost programs that happen
between November and February,because I do not have the energy

(14:29):
to do that.
That is my hibernation time.
I think of my energy similar tolike a bear, where I start to
build up all the things that I'mgoing to need during the winter
and then I take a rest.
I take a break from creationfrom everything except a certain

(14:50):
amount of one-on-one clients onvery specific days between very
specific windows, and I haven'tlost income doing that.
I've actually increased it.
The other thing I had to do inthat year was find the tools
that really supported me both inmy business and in my life.

(15:11):
So I'm a member of the VIP huband I have been for a few years,
and I had to allow myself toask for help without feeling
shame, to get things set up.
Now that they are a client canfind me on Instagram, click a
link, download a free resource,take that entire program, get a

(15:34):
series of emails that I alreadybuilt from my heart that go to
them, and then they enter into afunnel that literally takes
them on a client journey At anytime.
They can book a one-on-one callwith me, they can talk to me on
social media or join myFacebook group, or they can go
through the entire clientjourney through all of my

(15:57):
programs that I have living inmy library without me having to
spend a single minute with them.
It's still potent, it's stilltransformative and it still
works.
Wouldn't that be wonderful?
Wouldn't that be wonderful ifit could all be automated and it
could be automated in a waythat actually sounds like you.

(16:20):
How supportive would that be?
So that's one tool, anothertool that I have, because
autistic folks like me oftenhave a hard time understanding
what their emotion is.
There's an app that I downloadedfrom the Google play store and
I'm pretty sure it's availableon um, like the Apple store as

(16:41):
well.
Um, you can download it.
It's called how I feel, andwhat it does is it separates
emotions into four colorcategories and you can click on
the bubble and read what it isand see if that's how you're
feeling and, if not, you canchoose a different feeling.
And what it's helped me to dois it's helped me to identify

(17:03):
the emotion that I'm having, thepredominant emotion that I'm
having.
Identify the emotion that I'mhaving, the predominant emotion
that I'm having, whether it'shigh energy or low energy, and
whether it's desired orundesired, because in my world
there is no such thing as a goodor a bad feeling.
There's only information, andthe best thing you can do, as an
autistic entrepreneur or aperson serving autistic folks,

(17:26):
is learn how to read theinformation in a way that makes
sense for you.
So when I'm feeling allhummingbird-y like, I can't sit
still and I'm flitting fromthing to thing and I'm just
saying words all over the placeand not quite making sense.
I know now.
I know now that that's anxiety.

(17:48):
I used to think that anxietywas something different
altogether, but I now know thatthat's untethered anxiety.
And I also know that I have aKundalini Kriya that helps me
physically move the anxiousenergy out of my body so that I
can focus on the facts after so,what does that look like?

(18:12):
It looks like me spending threeminutes getting the physical
energy up and out of my body andthen sitting, in my case, with
a journal or a voice note appand just info, dumping
everything I'm thinking andfeeling.
And then I leave it for a whileand go to a different room or a

(18:34):
different location, turn onmusic, maybe have a bath.
I physically leave the spacethat gave me the anxiety and
revisit the notes I took onceI'm feeling more regulated.
We need to resist the urge toproblem solve while we're in a

(18:56):
trauma response.
We need to resist the urge tofind solutions to manage
emotions rather than creatingsafety in our body, to be who we
are, how we are when we are.
That way, I would like for you.
If you feel comfortable toclose your eyes, please do.

(19:17):
If not, that's okay.
I'd like for you to sit.
However you're sitting orhowever you're standing.
Maybe you're doing the dishes.
If you're doing something else,please, please just pause for a
moment.
Put a hand on your heart spaceand a hand on your belly and
take a deep breath through yournose.

(19:39):
Hold it for a second and, asyou exhale, I want you to drop
your shoulders as if the tensionis leaving your body, and I
want you to do that again.
Deep breath in, hold it for asecond, feel that air suspended
in your body, notice thesensations in your body, in your

(20:09):
body and, as you exhale, letthe weight go.
And on this next breath, I'dlike you to hold it and, when
you exhale, bring your handsdown to a comfortable position
and bring your awareness toanywhere in your body that
you're feeling tension, pain,heat, numbness, tingly
sensations.

(20:34):
By noticing how we're feeling inour physical body, we move from
intellectualizing our physicalexperience to being in our body.
What does your body need rightnow?
Do you need to readjust it?
Have you drank any water today?

(20:56):
When was the last time you atea vegetable?
Trust your inner knowing.
You know what makes you feelsafe and secure.
You know what makes you feelanxious and upset.
You might not be able toidentify the feeling of anxiety,
but you know how it feels inyour body.

(21:18):
You know when you get sweatypalms, when you get a dry mouth,
when you start to be unable tosit still, when you physically
want to leave a situation.
Learning to trust what yourbody is telling you will help
you so much when interactingwith others, when being in
stressful situations, and it'llallow you to take a break from

(21:44):
building that website, settingup those automations, going
somewhere else, getting someclarity, shaking that energy off
and coming back and trying whenyou're in a more regulated
state.
The power of the spirit,energetic, physical connection

(22:05):
is one of the most bypassedthings in modern society.
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(22:47):
Thank you so much for listeningtoday.
As always, if you have anyquestions, comments or you would
like to connect, you can findme on Instagram, at the Cheryl,
or online at wwwcherylfollandcaslash.
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(23:08):
The link will be posted belowso you don't have to try to type
it in.
Bye for now.

Sophie Riley (23:14):
Thank you so much for tuning in to an episode of
Create, automate and Scale.
I hope that you've gained somereally valuable insights from
Cheryl about using neurosomaticsto navigate entrepreneurship.
As a neurodivergent individual,it is truly some powerful stuff

(23:34):
and before we wrap up, I wantto remind you that Cheryl has an
amazing free gift for ourlisteners.
Hidden beneath the mask we wear, it's a deep dive into
understanding the layers weoften hide behind and how we can
embrace our authentic self.
You can grab your copy rightnow just by clicking the link in

(23:56):
the show notes.
Until next time, keep creating,automating and scaling your way
to greatness.
This is Sophie Riley signingoff, reminding you to stay
inspired, stay innovative andalways dare to dream big Thanks
for tuning in to the Create,automate and Scale podcast.
We hope you found today'sepisode to be inspirational,

(24:17):
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