June 16, 2021 • 23 mins
Take a sneak peak into world of healing and life coaching and how it may relevant to you. Restoring or improving your health is not just physical but also the mental. emotional and spiritual. Of course, every situation is different and your results may vary with whomever you choose to support you on your healing journey. Join us for this candid interview.
This episode is sponsored by The Happy Ohana Hale.
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Jeffery Bow (00:02):
Aloha, and welcome to Create, Your Life, Your Way.
My name is Jeff bow and I'm hereto serve you as a healer, Master
Certified Life Coach and Kahu. Iwill be sharing insights, tips
and suggestions to support youon your healing journey. In
essence, it's helping to bringyou to a place of happiness,
authenticity and truth. What doyou say? Let's get started.
(00:30):
Aloha and welcome to create byJeff Bow, Your Life Your Way.
Today's episode, the bandaidbox: insights on healing and
life coaching is sponsored bythe Happy Ohana Hale. The Happy
ohana Hale is the brainchild ofJulia Estrella. It is a place
that supports humanity throughfun - faith, unity and nature.
(00:53):
It honors those of the past,present and future. The
energetic disposition is one ofa family atmosphere or as we
call it in Hawaii, ohana. Themain purpose of the Happy Ohana
Hale is to be an internationalresource and healing center for
those wanting to live a happy,healthy and vibrant life; to
(01:13):
connect people and resources andto share information that may be
beneficial on their healingjourney. It is their intent to
be a support until that eachindividual make their own
decision and choices. How's thatfor a great company? Woohoo.
Thank you Happy Ohana Hale, foryour sponsorship of today's
(01:34):
episode. And now for the picede rsistanceace. I would like
to welcome a special guest Karenfrom California.
Karen (01:44):
Hi, everyone. I'm Karen.
I retired in 2009. After 29years with a large corporation.
Then with Jeff's life coachingand encouragement, I moved to
Hawaii to work in a dream job.
Jeffery Bow (02:00):
So the reason I chose Karen for this interview
is because of her diversebackground and experience. So
today, we are switching up theformat. Usually, I will be
interviewing Karen, but in thisepisode, she will be asking me
questions about healing and lifecoaching. And I have not been
given the questions in advance.
Karen, can you confirm that Ihave not been given the
(02:23):
questions.
Karen (02:26):
Yes.
Jeffery Bow (02:28):
Awesome. Yeah, let's get started fire away.
Karen (02:31):
Okay, who has been the biggest inspiration in your
life?
Jeffery Bow (02:36):
Oh, that's a good question. I have to think about
that for a second. Yeah, that'sa good one. That's a really good
one. You know, it's hard to sayany one person. And depending on
what the question is askingwhether it's specifically for
healing or life coaching,there's different people
involved. And so for lifecoaching, it would definitely be
(03:00):
Peter Reding. He was the onethat helped me through my
certification of the certifiedlife coach, and then my master
certification as a mastercertified life coach. And for
Hawaiian healing, there's quitea bit of people that I've
learned from, and the three thatstand out the most is Kumu
(03:21):
Karen, Kahu Maika'iloa KahuDave, and also Serge Kahili.
King.
Karen (03:30):
Can you tell me a little bit more about Hawaiian healing?
And how did you know you havethis?
Jeffery Bow (03:39):
That's a really good question. Well, I didn't
know really, I had this gift.
But from a young age, I couldread energy. I could tell if
people were lying or not veryquickly, within a couple of
minutes. And how I got intoHawaiian healing is really
interesting. I never set out todo Hawaiian healing, but it came
(04:00):
to me in a dream. I was told ina dream that I was to do
Hawaiian healing. And in thisdream, I had this conversation
like, what I'm Chinese, or Pake,as we call it in Hawaii. How
can, why me? Why me? And so Ididn't think anything of it.
Until time went on. And morepeople kept asking me, Hey, you
(04:22):
ever thought about doing thisand more in the Hawaiian healing
realm. And so I started doingsome research and I started
looking at some classes andthings to take and learn. And I
started reading books. And thenI get started getting more
involved in it. And as I gotmore involved in it, what
happened is I started practicingit, I started practicing some of
(04:42):
the techniques, some of thevisualizations, some of the
emotional things, and I startedworking on people. And what I
noticed that these peoplestarted getting better. And so I
saw Oh, this is great. It's agreat addition to life coaching.
In life coaching, we're notsupposed to go backwards, right?
So it's really from this point,and you move forward from this
(05:05):
point on, you move forward inyour life. So the coach is there
to help you to move forward inyour life. If there's some
emotional thing or somethingfrom the past, then we're
supposed to refer them to apsychologist or psychiatrist.
And I still do that. But whatwas missing in some of the life
in the coaching part was, someof the patterns of people kept
repeating itself. So what wewere missing was something that
(05:28):
could help them to change thedecisions they're making today,
based on their past experience.
So in Hawaiian healing, there isno past, there is no future. So
in the language, if you ask themabout something in the past,
they'll say, oh, it's alreadyhappened. And if you ask them
(05:50):
about the future, they said it,it hasn't happened yet. So you
cannot change what happened inyour life, but you can change
the memory. And what I havefound is that the Hawaiian
healing was a great fit, inaddition to life coaching,
because it really helped peopleto explore and change some of
the energetic profile that theyhave, so that they can make
(06:10):
better decisions that's moreserving for them today in the
present.
Karen (06:16):
So in your case, where you do coaching, is everyone
open to Hawaiian healing?
Jeffery Bow (06:23):
You know, I think that more and more people are
becoming aware of alternativemodalities, whether it's
Hawaiian healing word, whetherit's ayurvedic , whether it's
natural foods, whether it'sorganic foods, where, you know,
there's all different types ofhealing. Hawaiian healing is one
(06:43):
alternative, my type of healing,which is a combination of
Hawaiian healing, energetichealing, Divine Source Code, and
intuition is just another way.
Some people at the beginning areresistant. But, you know,
everybody has the right time inplace when they're open to it.
And unfortunately, is usuallywhen people are at their wit's
(07:04):
end, or they're not given hope,or they have a serious illness
where they come to us because,you know, I, I also have a
partner that I work with, onsome cases, and we deal with a
lot of people that have beenabused that have been sexually
molested that have had awfulchildhoods. So, you know,
Hawaiian healing is a greatopportunity for them, to bring
(07:28):
awareness to how they can have abetter life in the present.
Karen (07:38):
Does that mean they have to believe and be willing to
make those changes?
Jeffery Bow (07:44):
I believe so. 100%, I believe that, we know that
placebos work 60 to 70% of thetime. And one of the things,
it's not our place to try toconvince someone to participate
in Hawaiian healing, because asa healer, I believe that I'm
just the conduit for DivineSource. And so it's really up to
(08:06):
the person to receive it, and touse whatever healing is coming
their way. So if somebody isresistant from the beginning,
that's not really the idealclient that I would want to work
with. Because basically, they'regoing to be putting up their own
blocks and roadblocks. And, youknow, obviously, if they don't
believe it, or they'reskeptical, and they want to
(08:26):
disprove it, they can, you know,it's it won't work.
Karen (08:34):
So, I have a friend who has a lot of health issues with
pain, inflammation, and has totake a lot of prescribed
painkillers, but still suffers.
Would Hawaiian healing help?
Jeffery Bow (08:51):
You know, without knowing her specific background,
and the things that are goingon? It is hard to say, you know,
I, I don't I don't want to say,you know, that Hawaiian healing
is the cure for for all becausethat's not necessarily true.
There. I believe that there's aI believe that Western medicine
(09:12):
and Eastern medicine,alternative medicine, there's a
place for all of it. Anddepending on the specific
circumstances of the person,sometimes it takes a
combination. Sometimes there'smore one thing than the other.
Sometimes, you know, you try onething, and if it doesn't work,
you try something else. You keeptrying something, you know, I
guess the goal for me, it's notjust specifically Hawaiian
(09:35):
healing, it is getting theperson well, whatever that looks
like, whatever that means.
Sometimes it's energy work.
Sometimes it's tapping EmotionalFreedom Technique. Sometimes
it's just listening. So canHawaiian. Yes, potentially it
could, but without knowing thedetails of the person in the
background, you know, I wouldhave to talk to the person.
Karen (10:00):
Would that be the same as if somebody is currently
suffering from cancer, you wouldhave to kind of read them to
find out if when healing couldhelp, does it matter what stage
they're in for? what the issueis.
Jeffery Bow (10:25):
So for me, if there's different types of
cancers, a complicated being,you know, and it's a complicated
disease, because it could besomething physical as an
example, it could have beenfoods we've eaten with
pesticides, it could be in ourexposure to pesticides in our
environmental toxins, it couldbe things like roundup or other
(10:47):
chemical things or additivesthat are put in our food or
sprayed that we breathe in. Soit's the you know, there's,
there's the physical. And so ifit's not something that's
physical, that it wasn't createdcaused by something physical,
then we look at the emotional,right. So when we look at the
emotion, the Hawaiians believethat if you help the person
(11:09):
spiritually, they healphysically. So it really doesn't
matter what stage they're in.
That's just the classification.
Right? But really, what reallymatters is that the person can
picture a life that's moreinviting, more happier vibrant
(11:32):
than they currently areexperiencing. And Joe Dispenza
has proved this through brainmapping, where they actually
where he actually take scans ofthe brain before and after
meditation or an experiencewhere they're creating a
visualization. And those peoplethe brain, you look at the brain
and how it changes, it'samazing, the body really doesn't
(11:55):
know the difference. So the bodydoesn't know the difference,
whether it's experiencing theactual thing, or whether it
creates was created in your, inyour mind. And so a lot of
people heal spontaneously fromthis type of visualization and
creation. Did I answer yourquestion?
Karen (12:14):
Yes, you did. If you heal someone, is it forever?
Jeffery Bow (12:23):
I believe that it is consistent with the amount of
belief they have in it. So inother words, because our brain
looks for consistency, so youcan work with someone and it's
not just me, it could be anyhealer, right? So you can work
with someone and it can be goodfor now. And two days later,
(12:43):
their brain is going tochallenge it saying, oh, that
can't be true. Depending on howdeep the experiences, how much
abuse happened, or things intheir life that have happened.
Sometimes it takes time, and ourbrain works on consistency. So
until our brain believes it tobe true, then it will be on a
(13:04):
more permanent basis. So have Ihelped people one or two times
and then it's they've been painfree or disease free?
Absolutely. Absolutely. But Iwant to just say to everyone,
again, we're just facilitators.
So we're just, I'm just thefacilitator for Divine Source.
(13:26):
And so it's really we're justhelping the person to heal. So
the person has a responsibilitytoo on how their outlook is, you
know, are we looking at love?
Are they viewing their life, aswith love or destruction, the
things they say, the things theythink, and the things they do.
(13:48):
So it's really important, and Idon't think a lot of people
realize that their energyprofile affects their physical
health.
Karen (13:58):
In recent news, there seems to be more crime and
attacks on every day. How do youstay above it, and show love?
But then at the same time, staysafe?
Jeffery Bow (14:14):
Well, I think that we have to take precautions, you
know, for example, we don't goout at two o'clock in the
morning to a bar or or somethingand or get in trouble. And I do
realize that nowadays, that it'shappening in the daytime and
things and you know, the hardpart is that Yeah, we're all
human. We're all human, we getfrustrated, we get angry. You
(14:36):
know, we don't want to see thecrime and totally understand
that but destruction,destructive energy cannot create
love. So we can't help to healthe planet or heal or change our
environment through destruction,because we just create more
destruction. So at some point inour lives, we have to look at
(14:59):
how do we be the best we can beso that we can be an example for
other people. So we can riseabove it. Wayne Dyer said it
best when they had the tidalwave in Thailand. Everybody was
all these poor people, thesepoor people would feel so sorry
(15:19):
for them. And then he came onand said, he goes, I understand,
you know, we are grieving forthem. But it's time that we
start sending them love andhealing energy so they can start
to heal. They don't need ourpity. They don't need, you know,
our sorrow and feeling sorry forthey need our love. They need
(15:39):
our compassion, they needkindness to help support them to
regrow, rebuild, and that Inever have forgotten that.
Karen (15:51):
That's very good. Okay, I want to know, when you meet
someone for the first time, areyou reading them?
Jeffery Bow (16:02):
Yeah, that's that's a great question. I get asked
that question quite often. Areyou ever Am I reading everybody
in the room? No. Yeah, but I donot. I do not read people in a
room done. And generally inhealing. Well, there's there's a
difference. There's healing, andthen there's energy reading,
right? It's no different thansomeone that walks in the room,
(16:24):
they can see, oh, that personseems kind of grouchy. That
person seems happy. They'rethere look like they're having
fun over there. Do I do that?
Yeah. I mean, I think we all dothat. Right. We walk into a
room. And we also look forsafety, right? Our body looks
for safety out who's the onethat could be a potential hazard
in the room, he looks kind ofsketchy, or she looks kind of
sketchy. Right? So so we dothat. But as far as reading
(16:44):
them, whether they're healthier,uh no, I don't. And one of the
things that as a healer, Ibelieve that we need permission,
before we can, you know, readsomeone's health or look into
their well being or things.
Karen (17:01):
Yeah. It's interesting that you talked about the energy
because sometimes I've metsomeone, like a new person, and
I'm instantly drawn to them. Andother times, I get to meet a new
person, I get bad vibes. Doesthat happen to you?
Jeffery Bow (17:23):
Yeah, you know, and it's interesting, because I
think you had asked me aquestion before, really, you
know, how did I get into thehealing things? And it starts
like that. And I think we allhave this skill and this gift,
it's just that some of uspractice it more than others. So
exactly what you were saying.
Yeah, I mean, I do have that,you know, you could feel like,
Oh, this, the energy doesn'tfeel good. And this is what I
(17:45):
always say is that energyintroduces us before we even
speak. So with clients, I gointo detail about this energy
profile of love and destruction,because that's what people
receive. When we first meetthem. That's what our coworkers
receive. That's what ourchildren if you have kids,
that's what our spouse orsignificant other, that's what
(18:07):
they get. So that's what peopleare reading. And think about
this right? Have you ever beento a restaurant or a store? And
could tell the clerk was mad orupset? And they didn't have to
say anything. Yes. Yeah. Becauseyou're feeling you're reading
the energy? It's no differentreally.
Karen (18:30):
Okay, here's a coaching question. What do you think,
hold back, most people fromtheir potential, and is
potential limitless, or doesn'thave boundaries?
Jeffery Bow (18:45):
I believe that potential is limitless. And I
think most people hold backbecause they're, they're afraid
of failing. They're afraid ofjudgment from others. And also
low self esteem. Sometimespeople don't think they're good
enough. Who am I to do this? Or,you know, especially growing up
in Hawaii, we're taught, don'ttalk about yourself. Don't make
(19:05):
yourself the center ofattention, especially being
Asian as well. So thatcombination of Hawaii and being
Asian, right, it's culturalsometimes. And not just not just
the Asian culture could be anyculture. And so a lot of times,
we're afraid to fail becausewe're judged. If you look, our
school grading system, right,they'll go minus five, or,
(19:26):
they'll give you a grade. So inlife, wouldn't it be better if
we started acknowledging thethings that people are doing
right? It gives them more hope.
It gives them more possibility,and they're willing to try more.
And think about this, right?
When you, children. When you'relearning to walk, no parent
(19:49):
goes, That's not the way youwalk. Right? They're like, Oh,
yeah, that's good, Johnny,they're clapping. They're
encouraging. They're motivating,and then the child turns around
and smiles even if the childfalls down, look at the parent
for response, the parent doesn'tgo, oh, when they do that is
they start to cry. But when theparent or guardian goes, well,
(20:11):
good, that's good. You're okayget up, get up, they get up,
they smile, they start laughing,they start and they go on their
way. Somehow, when we becameadults, we started judging,
criticizing, right. And so allof that we take into our
emotional body, and it becomesembedded in ourselves, our
cellular memory, and things canpop up from the third grade, or
(20:36):
when we were five years old, orsix years old, or when we were
14. It's amazing the things thatcome out in the sessions, and
how deep it goes. And it couldjust be a word or two, or even a
look, it could just be a lookthat somebody gave you did
something or said something.
Karen (20:58):
I agree totally with that. We carry that through our
life.
Jeffery Bow (21:05):
We absolutely do.
And that's where I believe thatI'm sorry,
Karen (21:10):
In relationships as well.
Jeffery Bow (21:13):
Absolutely. And I think a lot of times in
relationships, we're looking forthe other person to fulfill our
voids. And I think that's wherethe discrepancy comes in it
we're why we have you know, 60to 70% divorce rate, because
we're expecting to have ourhappiness to be derived from our
(21:34):
relationship from someone else.
So knowing what you just heardabout how things happened in
your life and how it could beaffecting your decisions today.
Be kind to yourself and be kindto others. You never know what
someone is going through, or hasgone through. Get support and
help from a professional who istrained in the area you need
(21:55):
help in. In may be a life coach,and energy healer, a
psychologists, psychiatrists ornaturopath, find someone whom
you resonate with.
So as we bring this to a close,think about what is your
greatest opportunity to improveyour health, your relationships
or life, be still and listen toyour body, your intuition and
(22:18):
your source of divine presence?
apply what you've learned fromthe last episode on chunking it
down and action. What small stepCan you take to help you to move
forward in a direction of yourgoal? I want to say thank you to
Karen for all her questions andinsights today. And thank you to
all who have joined us on thisepisode of the Bandaid Box,
(22:40):
Insights on Healing and LifeCoaching, Sponsored by the Happy
Ohana Hale. Stay tuned for theupcoming episode titled Love
versus Destruction, An EnergyProfile. Please visit
soulpono.com for moreinformation about me and my
services, that'sS-O-U-L-P-O-N-O.com. A hui hou,
(23:04):
malama pono. Until we meetagain, take good care.
Aloha, and welcome to Create, Your Life, Your Way.
My name is Jeff bow and I'm hereto serve you as a healer, Master
Certified Life Coach and Kahu. Iwill be sharing insights, tips
and suggestions to support youon your healing journey. In
essence, it's helping to bringyou to a place of happiness,
authenticity and truth. What doyou say? Let's get started.
(00:30):
Aloha and welcome to create byJeff Bow, Your Life Your Way.
Today's episode, the bandaidbox: insights on healing and
life coaching is sponsored bythe Happy Ohana Hale. The Happy
ohana Hale is the brainchild ofJulia Estrella. It is a place
that supports humanity throughfun - faith, unity and nature.
(00:53):
It honors those of the past,present and future. The
energetic disposition is one ofa family atmosphere or as we
call it in Hawaii, ohana. Themain purpose of the Happy Ohana
Hale is to be an internationalresource and healing center for
those wanting to live a happy,healthy and vibrant life; to
(01:13):
connect people and resources andto share information that may be
beneficial on their healingjourney. It is their intent to
be a support until that eachindividual make their own
decision and choices. How's thatfor a great company? Woohoo.
Thank you Happy Ohana Hale, foryour sponsorship of today's
(01:34):
episode. And now for the picede rsistanceace. I would like
to welcome a special guest Karenfrom California.
Karen (01:44):
Hi, everyone. I'm Karen.
I retired in 2009. After 29years with a large corporation.
Then with Jeff's life coachingand encouragement, I moved to
Hawaii to work in a dream job.
Jeffery Bow (02:00):
So the reason I chose Karen for this interview
is because of her diversebackground and experience. So
today, we are switching up theformat. Usually, I will be
interviewing Karen, but in thisepisode, she will be asking me
questions about healing and lifecoaching. And I have not been
given the questions in advance.
Karen, can you confirm that Ihave not been given the
(02:23):
questions.
Karen (02:26):
Yes.
Jeffery Bow (02:28):
Awesome. Yeah, let's get started fire away.
Karen (02:31):
Okay, who has been the biggest inspiration in your
life?
Jeffery Bow (02:36):
Oh, that's a good question. I have to think about
that for a second. Yeah, that'sa good one. That's a really good
one. You know, it's hard to sayany one person. And depending on
what the question is askingwhether it's specifically for
healing or life coaching,there's different people
involved. And so for lifecoaching, it would definitely be
(03:00):
Peter Reding. He was the onethat helped me through my
certification of the certifiedlife coach, and then my master
certification as a mastercertified life coach. And for
Hawaiian healing, there's quitea bit of people that I've
learned from, and the three thatstand out the most is Kumu
(03:21):
Karen, Kahu Maika'iloa KahuDave, and also Serge Kahili.
King.
Karen (03:30):
Can you tell me a little bit more about Hawaiian healing?
And how did you know you havethis?
Jeffery Bow (03:39):
That's a really good question. Well, I didn't
know really, I had this gift.
But from a young age, I couldread energy. I could tell if
people were lying or not veryquickly, within a couple of
minutes. And how I got intoHawaiian healing is really
interesting. I never set out todo Hawaiian healing, but it came
(04:00):
to me in a dream. I was told ina dream that I was to do
Hawaiian healing. And in thisdream, I had this conversation
like, what I'm Chinese, or Pake,as we call it in Hawaii. How
can, why me? Why me? And so Ididn't think anything of it.
Until time went on. And morepeople kept asking me, Hey, you
(04:22):
ever thought about doing thisand more in the Hawaiian healing
realm. And so I started doingsome research and I started
looking at some classes andthings to take and learn. And I
started reading books. And thenI get started getting more
involved in it. And as I gotmore involved in it, what
happened is I started practicingit, I started practicing some of
(04:42):
the techniques, some of thevisualizations, some of the
emotional things, and I startedworking on people. And what I
noticed that these peoplestarted getting better. And so I
saw Oh, this is great. It's agreat addition to life coaching.
In life coaching, we're notsupposed to go backwards, right?
So it's really from this point,and you move forward from this
(05:05):
point on, you move forward inyour life. So the coach is there
to help you to move forward inyour life. If there's some
emotional thing or somethingfrom the past, then we're
supposed to refer them to apsychologist or psychiatrist.
And I still do that. But whatwas missing in some of the life
in the coaching part was, someof the patterns of people kept
repeating itself. So what wewere missing was something that
(05:28):
could help them to change thedecisions they're making today,
based on their past experience.
So in Hawaiian healing, there isno past, there is no future. So
in the language, if you ask themabout something in the past,
they'll say, oh, it's alreadyhappened. And if you ask them
(05:50):
about the future, they said it,it hasn't happened yet. So you
cannot change what happened inyour life, but you can change
the memory. And what I havefound is that the Hawaiian
healing was a great fit, inaddition to life coaching,
because it really helped peopleto explore and change some of
the energetic profile that theyhave, so that they can make
(06:10):
better decisions that's moreserving for them today in the
present.
Karen (06:16):
So in your case, where you do coaching, is everyone
open to Hawaiian healing?
Jeffery Bow (06:23):
You know, I think that more and more people are
becoming aware of alternativemodalities, whether it's
Hawaiian healing word, whetherit's ayurvedic , whether it's
natural foods, whether it'sorganic foods, where, you know,
there's all different types ofhealing. Hawaiian healing is one
(06:43):
alternative, my type of healing,which is a combination of
Hawaiian healing, energetichealing, Divine Source Code, and
intuition is just another way.
Some people at the beginning areresistant. But, you know,
everybody has the right time inplace when they're open to it.
And unfortunately, is usuallywhen people are at their wit's
(07:04):
end, or they're not given hope,or they have a serious illness
where they come to us because,you know, I, I also have a
partner that I work with, onsome cases, and we deal with a
lot of people that have beenabused that have been sexually
molested that have had awfulchildhoods. So, you know,
Hawaiian healing is a greatopportunity for them, to bring
(07:28):
awareness to how they can have abetter life in the present.
Karen (07:38):
Does that mean they have to believe and be willing to
make those changes?
Jeffery Bow (07:44):
I believe so. 100%, I believe that, we know that
placebos work 60 to 70% of thetime. And one of the things,
it's not our place to try toconvince someone to participate
in Hawaiian healing, because asa healer, I believe that I'm
just the conduit for DivineSource. And so it's really up to
(08:06):
the person to receive it, and touse whatever healing is coming
their way. So if somebody isresistant from the beginning,
that's not really the idealclient that I would want to work
with. Because basically, they'regoing to be putting up their own
blocks and roadblocks. And, youknow, obviously, if they don't
believe it, or they'reskeptical, and they want to
(08:26):
disprove it, they can, you know,it's it won't work.
Karen (08:34):
So, I have a friend who has a lot of health issues with
pain, inflammation, and has totake a lot of prescribed
painkillers, but still suffers.
Would Hawaiian healing help?
Jeffery Bow (08:51):
You know, without knowing her specific background,
and the things that are goingon? It is hard to say, you know,
I, I don't I don't want to say,you know, that Hawaiian healing
is the cure for for all becausethat's not necessarily true.
There. I believe that there's aI believe that Western medicine
(09:12):
and Eastern medicine,alternative medicine, there's a
place for all of it. Anddepending on the specific
circumstances of the person,sometimes it takes a
combination. Sometimes there'smore one thing than the other.
Sometimes, you know, you try onething, and if it doesn't work,
you try something else. You keeptrying something, you know, I
guess the goal for me, it's notjust specifically Hawaiian
(09:35):
healing, it is getting theperson well, whatever that looks
like, whatever that means.
Sometimes it's energy work.
Sometimes it's tapping EmotionalFreedom Technique. Sometimes
it's just listening. So canHawaiian. Yes, potentially it
could, but without knowing thedetails of the person in the
background, you know, I wouldhave to talk to the person.
Karen (10:00):
Would that be the same as if somebody is currently
suffering from cancer, you wouldhave to kind of read them to
find out if when healing couldhelp, does it matter what stage
they're in for? what the issueis.
Jeffery Bow (10:25):
So for me, if there's different types of
cancers, a complicated being,you know, and it's a complicated
disease, because it could besomething physical as an
example, it could have beenfoods we've eaten with
pesticides, it could be in ourexposure to pesticides in our
environmental toxins, it couldbe things like roundup or other
(10:47):
chemical things or additivesthat are put in our food or
sprayed that we breathe in. Soit's the you know, there's,
there's the physical. And so ifit's not something that's
physical, that it wasn't createdcaused by something physical,
then we look at the emotional,right. So when we look at the
emotion, the Hawaiians believethat if you help the person
(11:09):
spiritually, they healphysically. So it really doesn't
matter what stage they're in.
That's just the classification.
Right? But really, what reallymatters is that the person can
picture a life that's moreinviting, more happier vibrant
(11:32):
than they currently areexperiencing. And Joe Dispenza
has proved this through brainmapping, where they actually
where he actually take scans ofthe brain before and after
meditation or an experiencewhere they're creating a
visualization. And those peoplethe brain, you look at the brain
and how it changes, it'samazing, the body really doesn't
(11:55):
know the difference. So the bodydoesn't know the difference,
whether it's experiencing theactual thing, or whether it
creates was created in your, inyour mind. And so a lot of
people heal spontaneously fromthis type of visualization and
creation. Did I answer yourquestion?
Karen (12:14):
Yes, you did. If you heal someone, is it forever?
Jeffery Bow (12:23):
I believe that it is consistent with the amount of
belief they have in it. So inother words, because our brain
looks for consistency, so youcan work with someone and it's
not just me, it could be anyhealer, right? So you can work
with someone and it can be goodfor now. And two days later,
(12:43):
their brain is going tochallenge it saying, oh, that
can't be true. Depending on howdeep the experiences, how much
abuse happened, or things intheir life that have happened.
Sometimes it takes time, and ourbrain works on consistency. So
until our brain believes it tobe true, then it will be on a
(13:04):
more permanent basis. So have Ihelped people one or two times
and then it's they've been painfree or disease free?
Absolutely. Absolutely. But Iwant to just say to everyone,
again, we're just facilitators.
So we're just, I'm just thefacilitator for Divine Source.
(13:26):
And so it's really we're justhelping the person to heal. So
the person has a responsibilitytoo on how their outlook is, you
know, are we looking at love?
Are they viewing their life, aswith love or destruction, the
things they say, the things theythink, and the things they do.
(13:48):
So it's really important, and Idon't think a lot of people
realize that their energyprofile affects their physical
health.
Karen (13:58):
In recent news, there seems to be more crime and
attacks on every day. How do youstay above it, and show love?
But then at the same time, staysafe?
Jeffery Bow (14:14):
Well, I think that we have to take precautions, you
know, for example, we don't goout at two o'clock in the
morning to a bar or or somethingand or get in trouble. And I do
realize that nowadays, that it'shappening in the daytime and
things and you know, the hardpart is that Yeah, we're all
human. We're all human, we getfrustrated, we get angry. You
(14:36):
know, we don't want to see thecrime and totally understand
that but destruction,destructive energy cannot create
love. So we can't help to healthe planet or heal or change our
environment through destruction,because we just create more
destruction. So at some point inour lives, we have to look at
(14:59):
how do we be the best we can beso that we can be an example for
other people. So we can riseabove it. Wayne Dyer said it
best when they had the tidalwave in Thailand. Everybody was
all these poor people, thesepoor people would feel so sorry
(15:19):
for them. And then he came onand said, he goes, I understand,
you know, we are grieving forthem. But it's time that we
start sending them love andhealing energy so they can start
to heal. They don't need ourpity. They don't need, you know,
our sorrow and feeling sorry forthey need our love. They need
(15:39):
our compassion, they needkindness to help support them to
regrow, rebuild, and that Inever have forgotten that.
Karen (15:51):
That's very good. Okay, I want to know, when you meet
someone for the first time, areyou reading them?
Jeffery Bow (16:02):
Yeah, that's that's a great question. I get asked
that question quite often. Areyou ever Am I reading everybody
in the room? No. Yeah, but I donot. I do not read people in a
room done. And generally inhealing. Well, there's there's a
difference. There's healing, andthen there's energy reading,
right? It's no different thansomeone that walks in the room,
(16:24):
they can see, oh, that personseems kind of grouchy. That
person seems happy. They'rethere look like they're having
fun over there. Do I do that?
Yeah. I mean, I think we all dothat. Right. We walk into a
room. And we also look forsafety, right? Our body looks
for safety out who's the onethat could be a potential hazard
in the room, he looks kind ofsketchy, or she looks kind of
sketchy. Right? So so we dothat. But as far as reading
(16:44):
them, whether they're healthier,uh no, I don't. And one of the
things that as a healer, Ibelieve that we need permission,
before we can, you know, readsomeone's health or look into
their well being or things.
Karen (17:01):
Yeah. It's interesting that you talked about the energy
because sometimes I've metsomeone, like a new person, and
I'm instantly drawn to them. Andother times, I get to meet a new
person, I get bad vibes. Doesthat happen to you?
Jeffery Bow (17:23):
Yeah, you know, and it's interesting, because I
think you had asked me aquestion before, really, you
know, how did I get into thehealing things? And it starts
like that. And I think we allhave this skill and this gift,
it's just that some of uspractice it more than others. So
exactly what you were saying.
Yeah, I mean, I do have that,you know, you could feel like,
Oh, this, the energy doesn'tfeel good. And this is what I
(17:45):
always say is that energyintroduces us before we even
speak. So with clients, I gointo detail about this energy
profile of love and destruction,because that's what people
receive. When we first meetthem. That's what our coworkers
receive. That's what ourchildren if you have kids,
that's what our spouse orsignificant other, that's what
(18:07):
they get. So that's what peopleare reading. And think about
this right? Have you ever beento a restaurant or a store? And
could tell the clerk was mad orupset? And they didn't have to
say anything. Yes. Yeah. Becauseyou're feeling you're reading
the energy? It's no differentreally.
Karen (18:30):
Okay, here's a coaching question. What do you think,
hold back, most people fromtheir potential, and is
potential limitless, or doesn'thave boundaries?
Jeffery Bow (18:45):
I believe that potential is limitless. And I
think most people hold backbecause they're, they're afraid
of failing. They're afraid ofjudgment from others. And also
low self esteem. Sometimespeople don't think they're good
enough. Who am I to do this? Or,you know, especially growing up
in Hawaii, we're taught, don'ttalk about yourself. Don't make
(19:05):
yourself the center ofattention, especially being
Asian as well. So thatcombination of Hawaii and being
Asian, right, it's culturalsometimes. And not just not just
the Asian culture could be anyculture. And so a lot of times,
we're afraid to fail becausewe're judged. If you look, our
school grading system, right,they'll go minus five, or,
(19:26):
they'll give you a grade. So inlife, wouldn't it be better if
we started acknowledging thethings that people are doing
right? It gives them more hope.
It gives them more possibility,and they're willing to try more.
And think about this, right?
When you, children. When you'relearning to walk, no parent
(19:49):
goes, That's not the way youwalk. Right? They're like, Oh,
yeah, that's good, Johnny,they're clapping. They're
encouraging. They're motivating,and then the child turns around
and smiles even if the childfalls down, look at the parent
for response, the parent doesn'tgo, oh, when they do that is
they start to cry. But when theparent or guardian goes, well,
(20:11):
good, that's good. You're okayget up, get up, they get up,
they smile, they start laughing,they start and they go on their
way. Somehow, when we becameadults, we started judging,
criticizing, right. And so allof that we take into our
emotional body, and it becomesembedded in ourselves, our
cellular memory, and things canpop up from the third grade, or
(20:36):
when we were five years old, orsix years old, or when we were
14. It's amazing the things thatcome out in the sessions, and
how deep it goes. And it couldjust be a word or two, or even a
look, it could just be a lookthat somebody gave you did
something or said something.
Karen (20:58):
I agree totally with that. We carry that through our
life.
Jeffery Bow (21:05):
We absolutely do.
And that's where I believe thatI'm sorry,
Karen (21:10):
In relationships as well.
Jeffery Bow (21:13):
Absolutely. And I think a lot of times in
relationships, we're looking forthe other person to fulfill our
voids. And I think that's wherethe discrepancy comes in it
we're why we have you know, 60to 70% divorce rate, because
we're expecting to have ourhappiness to be derived from our
(21:34):
relationship from someone else.
So knowing what you just heardabout how things happened in
your life and how it could beaffecting your decisions today.
Be kind to yourself and be kindto others. You never know what
someone is going through, or hasgone through. Get support and
help from a professional who istrained in the area you need
(21:55):
help in. In may be a life coach,and energy healer, a
psychologists, psychiatrists ornaturopath, find someone whom
you resonate with.
So as we bring this to a close,think about what is your
greatest opportunity to improveyour health, your relationships
or life, be still and listen toyour body, your intuition and
(22:18):
your source of divine presence?
apply what you've learned fromthe last episode on chunking it
down and action. What small stepCan you take to help you to move
forward in a direction of yourgoal? I want to say thank you to
Karen for all her questions andinsights today. And thank you to
all who have joined us on thisepisode of the Bandaid Box,
(22:40):
Insights on Healing and LifeCoaching, Sponsored by the Happy
Ohana Hale. Stay tuned for theupcoming episode titled Love
versus Destruction, An EnergyProfile. Please visit
soulpono.com for moreinformation about me and my
services, that'sS-O-U-L-P-O-N-O.com. A hui hou,
(23:04):
malama pono. Until we meetagain, take good care.
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