December 11, 2023 • 20 mins
In this episode, I speak about my Grandma’s buttons.
For most people my packet of buttons would just be that: a packet of buttons.
However, for me, this packet means so much more than that. These buttons were given to me by my Grandma over in Ireland, and are a source of inspiration for me, and have recently prompted me to think about the influence she has had on my creativity.
This episode is all about thinking about, acknowledging and recognising those who have positively influenced us, and consider how we may then pass it forward to the next generation.
Happy listening!
xo Abi
P.S. Trigger warning: I do shed a little tear at the end of this recording, because of my wonderful Grandma Mary “Maureen” Egan - Ar dheis Dé go raibh a h-anam.
P.P.S. For more information about this episode and our guest, head to: www.crispcomms.co/podcast-episodes/my-grandmas-buttons
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(00:00):
Hi, my name is Abi Gatling and today I want to speak to you about my grandma's buttons.
Now this may be very confusing for you because this is Creativity (00:14):
Uncovered.
A podcast where I uncover how everyday people find inspiration, get inventive and open their
imagination.
And generally I am interviewing a guest and exploring how others find creative solutions
(00:35):
at home, work, play and everything in between.
But my goal for this podcast is to share with you a whole suite of tried and tested ways
to summon creativity.
And for me, my grandma's buttons is how I do that.
(00:58):
One of my favourite things in the world are this little packet of buttons.
There are big ones and small ones and metal ones and plastic ones in all different shapes
and all different sizes and all different textures.
And for most people this will just be a nice little packet of buttons.
(01:20):
So for me it's not just a packet of buttons, it means so much to me.
These buttons were given to me by my grandma over in Ireland and I've had them since 2007.
And since then I have used some from the packet, I've added some back in, I've shared them
(01:43):
with family and friends and sometimes I just get them out and just look at them.
And it's not like there's anything particularly special about this collection of buttons except
for the fact that my grandmother gave them to me.
And now that she's passed, they are one of the very few things that I physically have
(02:07):
except when I look at them I can instantly recall a wonderful, wonderful memory with her.
And the reason why I am talking about my grandma's buttons today is because recently I have
been thinking about the effect of others on me in terms of my creativity and encouraging
(02:32):
my nature to be curious.
And there are several people in my life who have contributed to that.
My grandma in particular, she kick started and she encouraged quite a lot of my loves
and I still hold those activities close to me and they're so dear to me even today.
(03:02):
The first one was cooking, I love cooking now.
And the second is the idea that you can fix your clothes instead of just strolling away.
You can customize your clothes, you can be thrifty with your clothes, you can be resourceful
and autonomous and really make a mark and make a statement with your clothes.
(03:28):
But mostly one of the things I remember about my grandma, it was that she always sort of
encouraged me to try something new and to persist with that thing even when it wasn't
really going so well.
She encouraged me to think bigger than what I was just doing just then and to think of
(03:53):
other applications where I could apply this learning.
And so in 2007, I went over from here in Australia, I went over to stay with my grandma for about
a month and it was just me and her in her little cottage in Femoy in County Cork.
(04:14):
And at that time I was trying to heal a broken heart and I was just spending some really
good quality time enjoying the company of my grandma.
I absolutely loved that time together.
She was telling me the stories of her life which I'd never heard before and we were
(04:35):
just kind of pottering around her house and then we're doing the tour of duty visiting
aunties and uncles and cousins, you name it.
And I just learned so much just incidentally through hanging out with her during that time.
And one specific time that sticks out to me was when I bought this coat.
(05:01):
I was hideously unprepared for how cold it was going to be in Ireland when I went over
from sunny Queensland, Australia all the way over to Ireland in the middle of winter.
So pretty much as soon as I touched down in Dublin, where I landed and I was staying
(05:21):
with my sister Annie, I had to go out and I bought a coat.
I didn't have much money so I bought a cheap coat.
And being a very cheap coat, as soon as I got home, about three of the buttons fell
off just like immediately.
And between that time and going down to Cork, I was just kind of making do without these
(05:45):
buttons on.
It was very drafty, I tell you.
But I kept the buttons because I know you're supposed to.
But I didn't have anything to fix them on with and also I just had no idea how to do
it myself.
And that just seems really silly to say now because now I know how simple it is to sew
a button.
(06:06):
I could have done it straight away.
But at the time, 2007, it's a long time ago guys, I've moved on since then.
Anyway, so I spent a couple of weeks in Dublin and I caught the bus down from Dublin to Cork
to go visit Femoy and stay with my grandma.
And I remember getting off the bus and pretty much the first thing that my grandma noticed
(06:32):
was that these three buttons were missing from my coat.
And she tutted and she tisked and she said, "Oh, we'll have to fix that."
And so before we even got to her house, she'd asked me, "Did I have the buttons?"
And when I said that I did, she's like, "I don't like those buttons.
(06:53):
They're cheap and nasty."
And of course they were.
It was a very cheap coat, possibly a nasty coat as well, I'm not sure.
And so as soon as we got to her home, she brought out this beautiful packet of buttons
and all colors and all shapes and sizes and textures and it was just beautiful.
(07:17):
And the two of us poured out this packet of buttons and we worked our way through it,
trying to find some buttons to replace my buttons.
And because it was this beautiful mismatch of different buttons, there wasn't enough
for a full set of matching buttons.
And of course, according to my grandma, I actually couldn't put the old ones back on
(07:39):
because it was just too nasty to use.
I thought they were quite nice, but you know.
So instead I said, "Why don't we just choose a color, for example, gold, and then just
choose various gold ones.
And then they'll at least be matching because of the color and the size."
(07:59):
And I remember my grandma being sort of put off by the idea because the thought of anything
mismatching was just something she was not keen on and she never really had thought about
before, but she kind of came around to it a little bit, she came around to it a little
bit, which was really nice.
(08:20):
So once we ended up finding this wonderful array of mismatching gold buttons to go on
my coat, she then started to talk about how we would sew them on.
She threaded the needle with, I think, quite a bit of difficulty because of her eyesight.
And she started to sew.
And I could see that because of the arthritis in her hands that she was finding that very
(08:44):
difficult.
So I said to her, "Why don't you just show me how to do the first one and then I will
do it from there."
And she took such care and attention to show me how to do it.
And while she was sewing this first button, she was telling me about all the common things
(09:04):
that can go wrong with you sewing a button and how to avoid these issues and how to fix
these issues when they arise and just some general tips to kind of improve my skills
there.
It was such a wonderful and encouraging way to learn something new because she put up
(09:26):
front the fact that things may go wrong and it may not be perfect the first time, but
that's OK.
And it was just so wonderful to hear that.
So I want to do the first one and then I sewed the rest on myself.
(09:46):
And they stayed on for a long time until I came back to Australia many years later after
sitting in my closet because it is just not cold enough to wear coats here in Queensland.
After quite a few years, silverfish came and ate it in my closet.
And I was really, I was really sad about that.
(10:09):
But taking from what I had learned from my time with my grandma, I instead of throwing
out the whole coat, I cut off the buttons and I added them to my little collection.
And then I cut some squares of fabric from the material that was still OK and not silverfish
eaten.
(10:31):
And I put that into my sewing kit.
And then I saved whatever else I could from the coat before ultimately putting the rest
in the bin.
And you may have just picked up there that I now had a sewing kit.
By this stage, I had a sewing kit.
And in fact, that was one of the first things I did when I went home after that trip to
(10:54):
Ireland was to put together a little sewing kit with my packet of buttons from my grandma
in Pride of Place.
You know, I always saw my mother had a sewing kit and it was so similar to my grandmother's
sewing kit in an old packet of biscuits, you know, the tins, the round tins.
(11:15):
And I kind of just always thought that having a sewing kit was just something resourceful
that you had to do in the old days or like my grandma had to or you had to because you
had eight kids like my mother had to.
And, you know, maybe not a huge amount of money growing up.
(11:37):
So you had to be resourceful and fix your clothes.
But you know, I often wonder thinking about my mother's sewing kit, like, where does she
learn to sew buttons?
Did she so learn how to sew the same way that I did from her mother, my grandmother?
(12:00):
And I often reflect now that now I can do all this stuff for fun, not out of necessity,
not out of resourcefulness or, you know, forced resourcefulness, I suppose.
It's a really wonderful skill to have to be able to mend your clothes.
And I'm so grateful for having learned it.
(12:23):
It all started with that button, those buttons on my cheap coat.
But that kick-suttered a love of sewing and crafting my clothes and customising my clothes.
And that led to me buying a sewing machine and attempting to make my own clothes and
(12:44):
cushions and curtains. And I just had a great time.
I've just been so busy in the last however many years.
But I haven't done it in a long time.
Of course, I've sewn buttons on because you have to these days.
(13:05):
And I've fixed a few holes in my clothes, but I actually haven't created anything new
for quite some time.
Still recently, you know, I've recently moved house and unpacking the boxes.
I found my sewing machine and I found the packet of buttons.
(13:25):
And so it's been making me think about that and think about that time a lot.
And this leads me to think about the influence that my grandmother had on me in terms of
loving the creative skill to be able to fix, mend and create your own clothes.
(13:51):
And I wonder whether I will have such an influence on someone else.
Not maybe about sewing, but perhaps with my cooking or my art or my gardening or even
just my problem solving.
I really, I really hope that I have the opportunity to share my interests and skills with someone
(14:11):
else and perhaps kickstart their love for a creative act that they then can learn and
develop and pass down to another person.
I just love, I love the idea of passing skills from generation to generation, from person
(14:33):
to person.
And I hope it doesn't die out, that personal approach doesn't die out because we now have
so much more money than we've ever had before and we don't have to be as resourceful.
Or perhaps because there's so much information out there, you literally could just Google
(14:56):
it and get on YouTube and learn how to do it just by yourself without that personal approach.
Look, I think it's so great that we have so much information at our fingertips at the
moment, but there's just something so nostalgic and sentimental about learning something from
(15:20):
someone that you love and transferring that passion from one to another rather than the
really effective but transactional learning of a new skill from YouTube.
So because I've been thinking about all of this, I really want to know who has influenced
(15:47):
you in your life and who has given you their equivalent of my grandma's buttons.
What skill or hobby or artistic endeavor have you started because someone you love has taken
the time to show you the way?
(16:08):
And what do you think that you can do to pass on your skills to someone else?
Do you have someone in mind?
Do you have a skill in mind?
So much of this podcast is talking about the influence that a person's community and the
people around them has on their lives.
(16:30):
And I've shared my stories of how teachers have been both positive and negative influence
in my life in terms of my creativity.
And I've shared stories about how my family and my friends have been so positive in my
life.
And I just think it's really important to talk about it and to honor these people who
(16:52):
are going around enriching our lives in so many ways.
So if you aren't comfortable sharing your stories with me on my podcast or by sending
me a message, if you're not comfortable with that, then I encourage you to share your story
with the person who has done that for you and just to thank them because they might not
(17:18):
know the influence that they've had on you.
And it's such a wonderful connector sharing those stories.
I actually remember going over for my grandma's 90th birthday party.
We went back over to Formoy in Ireland, I think it was 2016 or maybe it was 2017.
So about 10 years after I first got the buttons.
(17:43):
And I remember going back into that lovely cottage house and going through her things
and coming across her sewing kit, which she hadn't used for so many years because of her
arthritis and her having moved into a care home a couple of years earlier.
(18:03):
And when I saw her after her birthday party, I recounted the story to her.
And she couldn't remember that time with the buttons.
But she said to me, "That's lovely."
And I thought to myself, "Yeah, that's really lovely."
(18:28):
So quick quiet break there, but that's fine.
R.I.P. Grandma, love you mate.
But I want to say thank you to everyone for tuning in to Creativity (18:36):
Uncovered today.
I really hope that this episode has inspired you to consider what you've learned from others
and what you can do to help other people on their journey.
And as always, I really hope that it helps you some creativity the next time that you
need it.
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(19:21):
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Creativity (19:27):
Uncovered has been lovingly recorded on the land of the Kabi Kabi people and we
pay our respects to elders past, present and emerging.
This podcast has been produced by my amazing team here at Crisp Communications and the
music you just heard was composed by James Gatling.
(19:48):
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( happening )
Hi, my name is Abi Gatling and today I want to speak to you about my grandma's buttons.
Now this may be very confusing for you because this is Creativity (00:14):
Uncovered.
A podcast where I uncover how everyday people find inspiration, get inventive and open their
imagination.
And generally I am interviewing a guest and exploring how others find creative solutions
(00:35):
at home, work, play and everything in between.
But my goal for this podcast is to share with you a whole suite of tried and tested ways
to summon creativity.
And for me, my grandma's buttons is how I do that.
(00:58):
One of my favourite things in the world are this little packet of buttons.
There are big ones and small ones and metal ones and plastic ones in all different shapes
and all different sizes and all different textures.
And for most people this will just be a nice little packet of buttons.
(01:20):
So for me it's not just a packet of buttons, it means so much to me.
These buttons were given to me by my grandma over in Ireland and I've had them since 2007.
And since then I have used some from the packet, I've added some back in, I've shared them
(01:43):
with family and friends and sometimes I just get them out and just look at them.
And it's not like there's anything particularly special about this collection of buttons except
for the fact that my grandmother gave them to me.
And now that she's passed, they are one of the very few things that I physically have
(02:07):
except when I look at them I can instantly recall a wonderful, wonderful memory with her.
And the reason why I am talking about my grandma's buttons today is because recently I have
been thinking about the effect of others on me in terms of my creativity and encouraging
(02:32):
my nature to be curious.
And there are several people in my life who have contributed to that.
My grandma in particular, she kick started and she encouraged quite a lot of my loves
and I still hold those activities close to me and they're so dear to me even today.
(03:02):
The first one was cooking, I love cooking now.
And the second is the idea that you can fix your clothes instead of just strolling away.
You can customize your clothes, you can be thrifty with your clothes, you can be resourceful
and autonomous and really make a mark and make a statement with your clothes.
(03:28):
But mostly one of the things I remember about my grandma, it was that she always sort of
encouraged me to try something new and to persist with that thing even when it wasn't
really going so well.
She encouraged me to think bigger than what I was just doing just then and to think of
(03:53):
other applications where I could apply this learning.
And so in 2007, I went over from here in Australia, I went over to stay with my grandma for about
a month and it was just me and her in her little cottage in Femoy in County Cork.
(04:14):
And at that time I was trying to heal a broken heart and I was just spending some really
good quality time enjoying the company of my grandma.
I absolutely loved that time together.
She was telling me the stories of her life which I'd never heard before and we were
(04:35):
just kind of pottering around her house and then we're doing the tour of duty visiting
aunties and uncles and cousins, you name it.
And I just learned so much just incidentally through hanging out with her during that time.
And one specific time that sticks out to me was when I bought this coat.
(05:01):
I was hideously unprepared for how cold it was going to be in Ireland when I went over
from sunny Queensland, Australia all the way over to Ireland in the middle of winter.
So pretty much as soon as I touched down in Dublin, where I landed and I was staying
(05:21):
with my sister Annie, I had to go out and I bought a coat.
I didn't have much money so I bought a cheap coat.
And being a very cheap coat, as soon as I got home, about three of the buttons fell
off just like immediately.
And between that time and going down to Cork, I was just kind of making do without these
(05:45):
buttons on.
It was very drafty, I tell you.
But I kept the buttons because I know you're supposed to.
But I didn't have anything to fix them on with and also I just had no idea how to do
it myself.
And that just seems really silly to say now because now I know how simple it is to sew
a button.
(06:06):
I could have done it straight away.
But at the time, 2007, it's a long time ago guys, I've moved on since then.
Anyway, so I spent a couple of weeks in Dublin and I caught the bus down from Dublin to Cork
to go visit Femoy and stay with my grandma.
And I remember getting off the bus and pretty much the first thing that my grandma noticed
(06:32):
was that these three buttons were missing from my coat.
And she tutted and she tisked and she said, "Oh, we'll have to fix that."
And so before we even got to her house, she'd asked me, "Did I have the buttons?"
And when I said that I did, she's like, "I don't like those buttons.
(06:53):
They're cheap and nasty."
And of course they were.
It was a very cheap coat, possibly a nasty coat as well, I'm not sure.
And so as soon as we got to her home, she brought out this beautiful packet of buttons
and all colors and all shapes and sizes and textures and it was just beautiful.
(07:17):
And the two of us poured out this packet of buttons and we worked our way through it,
trying to find some buttons to replace my buttons.
And because it was this beautiful mismatch of different buttons, there wasn't enough
for a full set of matching buttons.
And of course, according to my grandma, I actually couldn't put the old ones back on
(07:39):
because it was just too nasty to use.
I thought they were quite nice, but you know.
So instead I said, "Why don't we just choose a color, for example, gold, and then just
choose various gold ones.
And then they'll at least be matching because of the color and the size."
(07:59):
And I remember my grandma being sort of put off by the idea because the thought of anything
mismatching was just something she was not keen on and she never really had thought about
before, but she kind of came around to it a little bit, she came around to it a little
bit, which was really nice.
(08:20):
So once we ended up finding this wonderful array of mismatching gold buttons to go on
my coat, she then started to talk about how we would sew them on.
She threaded the needle with, I think, quite a bit of difficulty because of her eyesight.
And she started to sew.
And I could see that because of the arthritis in her hands that she was finding that very
(08:44):
difficult.
So I said to her, "Why don't you just show me how to do the first one and then I will
do it from there."
And she took such care and attention to show me how to do it.
And while she was sewing this first button, she was telling me about all the common things
(09:04):
that can go wrong with you sewing a button and how to avoid these issues and how to fix
these issues when they arise and just some general tips to kind of improve my skills
there.
It was such a wonderful and encouraging way to learn something new because she put up
(09:26):
front the fact that things may go wrong and it may not be perfect the first time, but
that's OK.
And it was just so wonderful to hear that.
So I want to do the first one and then I sewed the rest on myself.
(09:46):
And they stayed on for a long time until I came back to Australia many years later after
sitting in my closet because it is just not cold enough to wear coats here in Queensland.
After quite a few years, silverfish came and ate it in my closet.
And I was really, I was really sad about that.
(10:09):
But taking from what I had learned from my time with my grandma, I instead of throwing
out the whole coat, I cut off the buttons and I added them to my little collection.
And then I cut some squares of fabric from the material that was still OK and not silverfish
eaten.
(10:31):
And I put that into my sewing kit.
And then I saved whatever else I could from the coat before ultimately putting the rest
in the bin.
And you may have just picked up there that I now had a sewing kit.
By this stage, I had a sewing kit.
And in fact, that was one of the first things I did when I went home after that trip to
(10:54):
Ireland was to put together a little sewing kit with my packet of buttons from my grandma
in Pride of Place.
You know, I always saw my mother had a sewing kit and it was so similar to my grandmother's
sewing kit in an old packet of biscuits, you know, the tins, the round tins.
(11:15):
And I kind of just always thought that having a sewing kit was just something resourceful
that you had to do in the old days or like my grandma had to or you had to because you
had eight kids like my mother had to.
And, you know, maybe not a huge amount of money growing up.
(11:37):
So you had to be resourceful and fix your clothes.
But you know, I often wonder thinking about my mother's sewing kit, like, where does she
learn to sew buttons?
Did she so learn how to sew the same way that I did from her mother, my grandmother?
(12:00):
And I often reflect now that now I can do all this stuff for fun, not out of necessity,
not out of resourcefulness or, you know, forced resourcefulness, I suppose.
It's a really wonderful skill to have to be able to mend your clothes.
And I'm so grateful for having learned it.
(12:23):
It all started with that button, those buttons on my cheap coat.
But that kick-suttered a love of sewing and crafting my clothes and customising my clothes.
And that led to me buying a sewing machine and attempting to make my own clothes and
(12:44):
cushions and curtains. And I just had a great time.
I've just been so busy in the last however many years.
But I haven't done it in a long time.
Of course, I've sewn buttons on because you have to these days.
(13:05):
And I've fixed a few holes in my clothes, but I actually haven't created anything new
for quite some time.
Still recently, you know, I've recently moved house and unpacking the boxes.
I found my sewing machine and I found the packet of buttons.
(13:25):
And so it's been making me think about that and think about that time a lot.
And this leads me to think about the influence that my grandmother had on me in terms of
loving the creative skill to be able to fix, mend and create your own clothes.
(13:51):
And I wonder whether I will have such an influence on someone else.
Not maybe about sewing, but perhaps with my cooking or my art or my gardening or even
just my problem solving.
I really, I really hope that I have the opportunity to share my interests and skills with someone
(14:11):
else and perhaps kickstart their love for a creative act that they then can learn and
develop and pass down to another person.
I just love, I love the idea of passing skills from generation to generation, from person
(14:33):
to person.
And I hope it doesn't die out, that personal approach doesn't die out because we now have
so much more money than we've ever had before and we don't have to be as resourceful.
Or perhaps because there's so much information out there, you literally could just Google
(14:56):
it and get on YouTube and learn how to do it just by yourself without that personal approach.
Look, I think it's so great that we have so much information at our fingertips at the
moment, but there's just something so nostalgic and sentimental about learning something from
(15:20):
someone that you love and transferring that passion from one to another rather than the
really effective but transactional learning of a new skill from YouTube.
So because I've been thinking about all of this, I really want to know who has influenced
(15:47):
you in your life and who has given you their equivalent of my grandma's buttons.
What skill or hobby or artistic endeavor have you started because someone you love has taken
the time to show you the way?
(16:08):
And what do you think that you can do to pass on your skills to someone else?
Do you have someone in mind?
Do you have a skill in mind?
So much of this podcast is talking about the influence that a person's community and the
people around them has on their lives.
(16:30):
And I've shared my stories of how teachers have been both positive and negative influence
in my life in terms of my creativity.
And I've shared stories about how my family and my friends have been so positive in my
life.
And I just think it's really important to talk about it and to honor these people who
(16:52):
are going around enriching our lives in so many ways.
So if you aren't comfortable sharing your stories with me on my podcast or by sending
me a message, if you're not comfortable with that, then I encourage you to share your story
with the person who has done that for you and just to thank them because they might not
(17:18):
know the influence that they've had on you.
And it's such a wonderful connector sharing those stories.
I actually remember going over for my grandma's 90th birthday party.
We went back over to Formoy in Ireland, I think it was 2016 or maybe it was 2017.
So about 10 years after I first got the buttons.
(17:43):
And I remember going back into that lovely cottage house and going through her things
and coming across her sewing kit, which she hadn't used for so many years because of her
arthritis and her having moved into a care home a couple of years earlier.
(18:03):
And when I saw her after her birthday party, I recounted the story to her.
And she couldn't remember that time with the buttons.
But she said to me, "That's lovely."
And I thought to myself, "Yeah, that's really lovely."
(18:28):
So quick quiet break there, but that's fine.
R.I.P. Grandma, love you mate.
But I want to say thank you to everyone for tuning in to Creativity (18:36):
Uncovered today.
I really hope that this episode has inspired you to consider what you've learned from others
and what you can do to help other people on their journey.
And as always, I really hope that it helps you some creativity the next time that you
need it.
[Music]
(19:21):
If you've made it this far, a huge thank you for your support and tuning into today's episode.
Creativity (19:27):
Uncovered has been lovingly recorded on the land of the Kabi Kabi people and we
pay our respects to elders past, present and emerging.
This podcast has been produced by my amazing team here at Crisp Communications and the
music you just heard was composed by James Gatling.
(19:48):
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