October 11, 2025 • 23 mins
Learn all about the Pegasus and other winged horses as Maisie and Mom talk through the surprising history of winged horses and all the places they pop up!
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SPEAKER_00 (00:03):
In shadows, deep and starlit skies where ancient
whispers never die.
We walk the path where legendstread, and summon the world
once.
SPEAKER_03 (00:27):
Welcome to Creature Chats, where myth and magic come
to life through the eyes of amother, me, and a daughter.
I'm Maisie.
And I'm Jana.
Each week I'll introduce Maisieto a mythical creature, explore
its origins, stories, andsecrets.
SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
And I'll share my thoughts, ask weird questions,
and maybe even challenge themist.
SPEAKER_03 (00:52):
So cozy in and join us for a journey into the
enchanted forest, mistymountains, and mysterious waters
of folklore and the creaturesthat reside there.
So, Maisie, this is our firstepisode.
How are you feeling about it?
I'm feeling good because, well,I kind of like Pegasus.
(01:14):
Well, that's what we're doingtoday, but what about all the
other creatures that we're gonnatalk about?
SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
Well, I just own like imaginary island that my
mom does for me at night.
So yeah.
I kinda I r I really likemythical creatures.
SPEAKER_03 (01:32):
Yeah.
So every night or every night wedo bedtime, I we talk about
Imagination Island, and Maisietakes a journey there.
And that's kind of how this allstarted with mythical creatures.
SPEAKER_02 (01:44):
On a Pegasus named uh Peggy.
She was like, I think the firstimaginary friend I ever had.
I think so too.
SPEAKER_03 (01:55):
Yeah.
So today, for our very firstepisode, it's very obvious what
we're doing, and we are gonna betalking about Pegasus.
Pegasus or Pegasi.
And what I learned, Maisie, isthat there are several different
winged horses that are in tonsof different cultures and
(02:18):
beliefs and all of that.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Well, one thing that is actually very true.
SPEAKER_03 (02:23):
Yeah.
Um, okay, so did you know that ahorse with a wings of a bird is
actually described as aterapist?
No, but I just learned a newthing.
There you go.
Pegasus is actually originatedin Greek mythology.
I do know that.
Yes.
What else do you know?
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
Well, I know that Pegasus' are really cool winged
horses, and they are createdbecause of the Greek gods.
So I believe Hercules?
I'll I'll let you know.
Yeah, so he had if you haven'twatched the movie, yes,
Hercules.
Hercules had a Pegasus, and asyou see, he is a Greek god, so
(03:09):
yeah, that's I know.
SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
Yeah, so there is a Pegasus in the movie Hercules.
And but we also will knowPegasus from different things.
Um, there's a Pegasus airline inTurkey.
Magnolia Petro has Pegasus astheir emblem, so you might see
some signs.
Tri-star pictures, which we'refamiliar with, you know, the big
(03:32):
winged horse at the beginning ofsome of the movies.
Have you seen those?
SPEAKER_02 (03:36):
Yes, and I know I believe that a flag has a
Pegasus on it.
Yeah, you're right.
We will get to that.
SPEAKER_03 (03:45):
You got some good knowledge on you.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Uh, thank you.
SPEAKER_03 (03:50):
Okay, so we're gonna start off with the Greek
mythology.
Okay, and what it is is thatPegasus was fathered by
Poseidon, who is the god of thesea and of horses.
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
And I believe Ursula, wait, no, not Ursula.
Medusa, that is Medusa's child,I believe.
SPEAKER_03 (04:15):
You're right, yeah.
So Medusa, um, so Pegasusactually was born when they cut
Medusa's head off.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (04:25):
And she and then a peg, and then like a winged
horse came out when Hercules,right?
Nope, no Hercules.
SPEAKER_03 (04:32):
But you're right.
Keep going.
Yeah, keep telling me.
When they it was just born outof her neck, is what the
pictures depict.
That's kind of creepy.
It is creepy because legend saysthat Pegasus was a full-size
horse when it happened.
SPEAKER_02 (04:44):
Yeah, but one thing, I thought babies come from the
butt.
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
No.
Okay, so Pegasus was fathered byPoseidon, who is the god of the
sea and of horses, and he wasborn after Medusa's head was cut
off and blood came out, and hewas his head was cut off by
Perseus.
(05:09):
Oh and he actually was born atwin, and his brother was human,
but Pegasus was a fully grownhorse, allegedly, when he came
out of Medusa's head.
SPEAKER_02 (05:23):
Well, one thing, I have a question.
Did the so Medusa, if she had awhole Pegasus inside her, she
should have had a head, sheshould have wings thrown out of
her back.
Oh, that's a fun fact.
Medusa did have wings.
SPEAKER_04 (05:39):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
But she did she have a horse head?
No, but remember, Poseidon isthe god of horses.
SPEAKER_02 (05:47):
Oh.
I thought Poseidon was the godof the sea.
SPEAKER_03 (05:51):
He is.
He's a both.
I learned that from the LittleMermaid.
Yep.
Okay, so let me tell you some ofthe things that Pegasus is known
for in Greek mythology.
He was used after he was born togo on some missions and fly
(06:12):
around, and his rider wasattempting to fly up to Mount
Olympus, and Zeus both struckthem down.
Zeus is so how dare he.
SPEAKER_02 (06:54):
Well, it is now.
Um well it's mythology accordingto Maisie.
Yeah, yeah, our new podcast.
SPEAKER_03 (07:02):
No, okay.
So when Pegasus went up to MountOlympus with Zeus, he actually
worked for Zeus carrying hislightning bolts.
Zeus, why'd you slave a Pegasus?
Well, I think Pegasus, it waslike an honor because he was
serving Zeus.
How is that an honor?
That's a big deal to carryZeus's lightning bolts.
(07:24):
It's kind of rude, but okay.
That's his big thing.
I know that.
Okay.
Either way, when Pegasus haddied, he was rewarded with a
permanent place in the heavens,allegedly in the sky, and has a
constellation.
SPEAKER_02 (07:43):
Oh, yes, it that actually, so they do have a
constellation of a Pegasus.
SPEAKER_03 (07:49):
Yeah.
There's a constellation that youthat us in the northern
hemisphere can actually seereally well in the fall sky.
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
True.
SPEAKER_03 (07:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:58):
But the hard, but the easiest, but the easiest um,
what is it called again?
SPEAKER_03 (08:04):
What?
Constellation?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (08:06):
The easiest constellations probably is to
see the big dipper.
SPEAKER_03 (08:09):
Yeah.
So fun fact.
And then I believe if you followthat, then you'll find the
Pegasus in the sky.
But we might need ourfact-checker to fact-checker to
double check that.
Yeah, fact checker.
Okay, let me tell you about someof the legends.
So this is a legend that camefrom Pegasus in Greek mythology,
(08:31):
is that anywhere a winged horsehoofed down or touched down on
earth, a spring of water camefrom the ground.
That is fake.
No, that's in the mythology.
Well, mythology is wrong.
Well, that's why it's mythology.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
I know, but you said legends and legends are legends
are sometimes not true.
Okay.
So I don't think that is true.
No.
Because when in Harry Potter,when those Pegasus touch the
ground.
There is no Pegasus in HarryPotter.
SPEAKER_03 (09:09):
Those are thus trels.
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
We're saying they're we're saying I guess technically
they're a winged horse.
Yeah, so and but when they touchthe ground, nothing came up.
SPEAKER_03 (09:19):
Okay.
But it also nobody can see them.
But they're still winged horse,so you're not wrong.
Just not a pegasus.
SPEAKER_02 (09:27):
Wait, but I thought the people in Harry Potter, no,
like when in the Gauntlet ofFire, when they were flying,
those were not Frestrals, thoseare Pegasus's.
No, I think those were thrust.
No, those are Pegasus'.
SPEAKER_01 (09:40):
She's talking about the boat being.
I know what she's talking about.
Yeah, those were Pegasus's.
Really?
Yeah.
The French ladies.
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
I don't, I don't.
Do we have our myth test?
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
Well, so fact checker coming in.
Hi.
Uh that is my friend.
Pegasus constellation is nowherenear the Big Dipper.
You actually have to go BigDipper to the North Star to
Cassiopedia, which will theneventually get you to the great
spare great square of Pegasus.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (10:07):
And now can we can I we need a fact checker?
We need you again.
Also, just letting you know thefact checker is my dad.
SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
Hi.
SPEAKER_03 (10:15):
Okay, while he's looking up, can I tell you other
things that Pegasus was usedfor?
Yes.
Okay.
In World War II, the Pegasussymbol was used as an emblem for
a new parachute troop in theUnited Kingdom.
That is true.
And their insignia was a Pegasuswith a rider, and they wore it
(10:36):
on their upper sleeve so theywould know what company they
came from.
Oh.
And you know what their what Ibelieve the current company name
is?
What?
P Company.
Oh, but I but I th but thatshould be um well P for what?
Pegasus is that's cool though.
True.
Okay, and then in Tuscany, doyou know where Tuscany is at?
(10:58):
In Italy.
SPEAKER_02 (11:00):
I was just thinking that.
Wow.
I was literally just thinkingItaly.
SPEAKER_03 (11:05):
Okay.
Tuscany has had it in theirculture or in their city since
1537.
So, and the first thing That'sas old as my dad.
That's like much older than dad.
And that's how you roast yourdad.
Uh-huh.
They incorporated it as a cointhe very first time in 1537.
(11:27):
And then later the Tuscan flagand the coat of arms um still
use as a pegasus.
They still do.
They still have it on their onall their emblems and flag and
stuff.
So if you look up the Tuscanflag, there's a pegasus on it.
SPEAKER_02 (11:45):
I'm looking up, but I don't see a flag, or I'm I'm
I'm looking up, but I don't seea Tuscan or a flag.
I don't see anything.
I just see soundproof stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (11:58):
A lot of soundproof stuff.
Okay, well, that's probably goodfor this.
So the other part, the one thatI was surprised to hear about,
was all the other differentcultures that also have winged
horses in their mythology.
SPEAKER_02 (12:12):
Yeah, did you know, like over, I believe, 20?
SPEAKER_03 (12:17):
No, I did not write down that many.
SPEAKER_02 (12:19):
Oh, over about like 10.
SPEAKER_03 (12:26):
I have um, I think I have four.
Well, there is so much more.
I didn't find those in myresearch.
Well, one thing.
SPEAKER_02 (12:38):
I'm not good with legs.
So, well, that could have beenright.
It could have been wrong.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
So just trust me on this.
Okay.
Okay.
So the first one I came acrosswas actually um in that Hindu
text featured a white horse thatwas winged named Devdada.
Devdata?
Devdada.
Devdada.
(13:05):
And it was a horse of Kelki.
And that was given to LordShiva.
Oh, I know who Shiva is.
Shiva.
Yeah.
And in Hindu culture, they areknown for their speed, their
freedom, and their divine grace.
(13:27):
Ooh, one minute.
SPEAKER_02 (13:29):
Can we check in on our fact checker to see what the
thing is?
SPEAKER_01 (13:35):
Yeah.
I was kind of wondering becauseso it's a blue carriage with the
bow batons.
SPEAKER_03 (13:41):
Yeah, bow baton.
SPEAKER_01 (13:44):
It's bow batten?
SPEAKER_03 (13:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:46):
Oh.
Yeah.
We're we're both not great atpronouncing things, I guess.
Um they don't have pegasuses,but they do have a Braxton
winged horses, which are adistinct breed of winged horse
conflated with the mythologicalpegasus.
SPEAKER_03 (14:09):
I told you so.
So it's a winged horse again.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (14:12):
It's a winged horse, but not a thestral, but not
technically a pegasus.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
Because, of course not.
SPEAKER_03 (14:19):
Right.
Because that would be too cool.
SPEAKER_01 (14:22):
That would be.
SPEAKER_03 (14:23):
Okay.
So then I'm gonna tell you inthe Chin in the Chinese
mythology, there is also anotherwinged horse.
Aww.
And this winged horse was saidto have traveled, to have been
able to travel for hundreds ofmiles a day.
(14:44):
I think a plant can do that.
Um, it's called a longma, whichis called a dragon horse.
And it is this is a differenttype that is also depicted as a
dragon horse, hence the name,um, that were colorful, that had
colorful scales and walked onwater.
(15:07):
Walked on water.
Okay.
And then the another one wasfrom Tibet or Tibetan mythology,
and this was called a lunta.
Alunta.
Lungta.
Lunta.
Yes.
And that is said to have carriedprayers from humans to the
(15:28):
heavens and known for having alarge gem on its back, which
represents the buoyancy of lifeand goodness of the human
spirit.
SPEAKER_02 (15:39):
So it's kind of like a How can that thing carry that
big of a thing?
SPEAKER_03 (15:44):
Well, it's a Pegasus.
SPEAKER_02 (15:45):
Did it like it have it like stuck in its back or
like I don't know.
It just said it it was a gem onits back.
Did it carry it like a troll?
Did it carry it in a backpackwith eyes like Dora?
No, it was on its back.
SPEAKER_03 (16:04):
I don't know why I'm laughing like that.
Okay, I'm gonna keep going.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, in Iran, winged horses wereused to carry souls and were
manifestations of their gods,which is often pictured as one
leg raised and is often used onthe backs of coins and seals.
(16:24):
Like seals, as in likegovernment seals, not like the
animal.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, governmentseals.
Yeah, like stamps.
Are those like navies?
No, no, like stamps, like yourlike it's an official letter.
It's sealed.
I th oh sealed for yourprotection.
SPEAKER_02 (16:41):
Oh, yeah.
I th I th I heard navy seal.
SPEAKER_03 (16:45):
No, no.
SPEAKER_02 (16:46):
I heard navy seal.
SPEAKER_03 (16:48):
Okay.
Then the last one I learnedabout was it's called an
Ethiopian Pegasus.
And this was inspired by theGreek Pegasus and said to be
native of Ethiopia, and it haslarge wings, a reddish coat, and
a large horn.
I think that's called a pegasi.
(17:10):
Pegasi is plural for allpegasus.
Plural.
Plural.
Plural.
Yeah.
So I thought that was coolbecause it has um a red coat,
just like we have red hair.
Yeah.
And it's got a large horn, likea unicorn.
SPEAKER_02 (17:27):
As you as you see, we have red hair on our title.
I don't brush my hair that much.
That can you edit that out?
SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
How dare you?
SPEAKER_03 (17:40):
Nina's got to hear this.
Okay, but did you so where Iknow you get frustrated a lot is
you see a lot of pegasus orpegasi with horns on their head,
which isn't always accurate.
Yep.
And that is what has been reallyhard to find is like it's hard
to find a pegasus without ahorn.
(18:03):
Because a lot of people like todraw unicorns with wings.
So technically, it is a wingedhorse.
Okay, don't be.
But really, if they wanted toget it correct, if they are
drawing a winged horse with ahorn, then it should be have a
red coat.
Oh.
That would be proper.
Oh, like the color of her hair.
Like the exact color.
(18:24):
I I don't know, but it just saysto have a reddish coat.
Oh, interesting.
So that is what I found.
That's what I found out on myresearch.
What do you think about that?
Half of that, like a quarter ofthat, is not correct.
SPEAKER_02 (18:43):
What do you mean?
The the un the unicorn part.
The the where they where theyhad the horns, the unicorn part.
Okay, but that's correct forEthiopian culture.
True.
And if there's any Ethiopiansout there, the culture stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
So uh.
Either way, I think therethere's a lot more winged horses
than I expected to find outabout.
Same.
Yeah, because you and I onlyreally talk about Pegasus.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:15):
Fun fact.
The Ethiopian Pegasus wasn'tfrom Ethiopian culture.
It's from Greek.
No, it's from uh medievalbeasties, where Pliny the Elder,
which he he wrote a bunch ofweird books.
(19:35):
Don't worry about him.
Decided that there were the redfurred two-horned no, this one
isn't doesn't even have twohorns.
SPEAKER_03 (19:46):
Let me see.
SPEAKER_01 (19:47):
I'm reading the Wikipedia article.
SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
Can I see two?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:50):
So I should probably cite my sources better.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
Can I see?
SPEAKER_01 (19:52):
Yeah.
See, it's that drawing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
It kind of looks like a sphinx.
It kind of looks like a with theYeah, it looks like a Sphinx.
Okay, well, cool.
SPEAKER_03 (20:04):
Thanks, Dad.
Yeah.
That's what I write in my books.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:10):
And in my sources.
And she's Wikipedia.
Every single she did Google.
SPEAKER_03 (20:18):
I have actual books.
She has actual books.
Sorry.
No, no, no.
But okay, so here's there waslike some like disgruntle with
the research, I guess, and thatit can look, it is can it looks
differently than what somepeople describe it.
(20:38):
But in part of the culture, howsome people describe it is as
large wings, a reddish coat, anda large horn.
Like a large horn?
A large horn.
Yeah.
Like as big as hell.
And a large individual horn.
That's it.
Specifically said individualhorn.
Okay.
(20:58):
So that is what we got, Maze.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_02 (21:02):
I like it.
I feel like this fur pod thisfirst podcast went pretty good.
Yeah, I think so too.
SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
We messed up a bunch.
Yeah, but that's the the joy ofediting.
SPEAKER_01 (21:18):
Thanks.
SPEAKER_03 (21:20):
She messed up more than me.
That's true.
SPEAKER_02 (21:23):
I didn't mess up once.
SPEAKER_03 (21:25):
Well, that's because you're spitting it out.
SPEAKER_02 (21:26):
You're the one of two of us that doesn't have any
mus, that doesn't have any likeacademer stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (21:36):
Why are we talking about this?
I don't know.
We went to a different subject.
We did.
Okay.
So in the next one, what we'regonna do is you're not gonna
know what the creature is.
Oh my goodness.
It'll be a surprise.
Oh my goodness.
So this first time was a littlespecial because we had to go
with the Pegasus, because that'sjust that's our mythical
(21:58):
creature.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:59):
Yeah.
If if it was a real animal, thatwould personally be my favorite
in.
SPEAKER_03 (22:03):
Yeah, probably.
Okay, so our next podcast isgonna be surprise because I get
to pick the creature and you getto give us your live reaction to
it.
For being on live?
You get we get to record thelive reaction that you have.
Okay, okay.
All right.
So that is that is our firstepisode of Creature Chats with
(22:27):
Maisie and Mom.
And we will we will uh talk toyou guys next time.
Bye.
Bye.
Thanks for listening.
SPEAKER_02 (22:37):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (22:39):
In shadows, deep in starlit skies where ancient
oases never die.
We walk the path where legendstread, and summon the world
once.
In shadows, deep and starlit skies where ancient
whispers never die.
We walk the path where legendstread, and summon the world
once.
SPEAKER_03 (00:27):
Welcome to Creature Chats, where myth and magic come
to life through the eyes of amother, me, and a daughter.
I'm Maisie.
And I'm Jana.
Each week I'll introduce Maisieto a mythical creature, explore
its origins, stories, andsecrets.
SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
And I'll share my thoughts, ask weird questions,
and maybe even challenge themist.
SPEAKER_03 (00:52):
So cozy in and join us for a journey into the
enchanted forest, mistymountains, and mysterious waters
of folklore and the creaturesthat reside there.
So, Maisie, this is our firstepisode.
How are you feeling about it?
I'm feeling good because, well,I kind of like Pegasus.
(01:14):
Well, that's what we're doingtoday, but what about all the
other creatures that we're gonnatalk about?
SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
Well, I just own like imaginary island that my
mom does for me at night.
So yeah.
I kinda I r I really likemythical creatures.
SPEAKER_03 (01:32):
Yeah.
So every night or every night wedo bedtime, I we talk about
Imagination Island, and Maisietakes a journey there.
And that's kind of how this allstarted with mythical creatures.
SPEAKER_02 (01:44):
On a Pegasus named uh Peggy.
She was like, I think the firstimaginary friend I ever had.
I think so too.
SPEAKER_03 (01:55):
Yeah.
So today, for our very firstepisode, it's very obvious what
we're doing, and we are gonna betalking about Pegasus.
Pegasus or Pegasi.
And what I learned, Maisie, isthat there are several different
winged horses that are in tonsof different cultures and
(02:18):
beliefs and all of that.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Well, one thing that is actually very true.
SPEAKER_03 (02:23):
Yeah.
Um, okay, so did you know that ahorse with a wings of a bird is
actually described as aterapist?
No, but I just learned a newthing.
There you go.
Pegasus is actually originatedin Greek mythology.
I do know that.
Yes.
What else do you know?
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
Well, I know that Pegasus' are really cool winged
horses, and they are createdbecause of the Greek gods.
So I believe Hercules?
I'll I'll let you know.
Yeah, so he had if you haven'twatched the movie, yes,
Hercules.
Hercules had a Pegasus, and asyou see, he is a Greek god, so
(03:09):
yeah, that's I know.
SPEAKER_03 (03:11):
Yeah, so there is a Pegasus in the movie Hercules.
And but we also will knowPegasus from different things.
Um, there's a Pegasus airline inTurkey.
Magnolia Petro has Pegasus astheir emblem, so you might see
some signs.
Tri-star pictures, which we'refamiliar with, you know, the big
(03:32):
winged horse at the beginning ofsome of the movies.
Have you seen those?
SPEAKER_02 (03:36):
Yes, and I know I believe that a flag has a
Pegasus on it.
Yeah, you're right.
We will get to that.
SPEAKER_03 (03:45):
You got some good knowledge on you.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Uh, thank you.
SPEAKER_03 (03:50):
Okay, so we're gonna start off with the Greek
mythology.
Okay, and what it is is thatPegasus was fathered by
Poseidon, who is the god of thesea and of horses.
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
And I believe Ursula, wait, no, not Ursula.
Medusa, that is Medusa's child,I believe.
SPEAKER_03 (04:15):
You're right, yeah.
So Medusa, um, so Pegasusactually was born when they cut
Medusa's head off.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (04:25):
And she and then a peg, and then like a winged
horse came out when Hercules,right?
Nope, no Hercules.
SPEAKER_03 (04:32):
But you're right.
Keep going.
Yeah, keep telling me.
When they it was just born outof her neck, is what the
pictures depict.
That's kind of creepy.
It is creepy because legend saysthat Pegasus was a full-size
horse when it happened.
SPEAKER_02 (04:44):
Yeah, but one thing, I thought babies come from the
butt.
SPEAKER_03 (04:49):
No.
Okay, so Pegasus was fathered byPoseidon, who is the god of the
sea and of horses, and he wasborn after Medusa's head was cut
off and blood came out, and hewas his head was cut off by
Perseus.
(05:09):
Oh and he actually was born atwin, and his brother was human,
but Pegasus was a fully grownhorse, allegedly, when he came
out of Medusa's head.
SPEAKER_02 (05:23):
Well, one thing, I have a question.
Did the so Medusa, if she had awhole Pegasus inside her, she
should have had a head, sheshould have wings thrown out of
her back.
Oh, that's a fun fact.
Medusa did have wings.
SPEAKER_04 (05:39):
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (05:40):
But she did she have a horse head?
No, but remember, Poseidon isthe god of horses.
SPEAKER_02 (05:47):
Oh.
I thought Poseidon was the godof the sea.
SPEAKER_03 (05:51):
He is.
He's a both.
I learned that from the LittleMermaid.
Yep.
Okay, so let me tell you some ofthe things that Pegasus is known
for in Greek mythology.
He was used after he was born togo on some missions and fly
(06:12):
around, and his rider wasattempting to fly up to Mount
Olympus, and Zeus both struckthem down.
Zeus is so how dare he.
SPEAKER_02 (06:54):
Well, it is now.
Um well it's mythology accordingto Maisie.
Yeah, yeah, our new podcast.
SPEAKER_03 (07:02):
No, okay.
So when Pegasus went up to MountOlympus with Zeus, he actually
worked for Zeus carrying hislightning bolts.
Zeus, why'd you slave a Pegasus?
Well, I think Pegasus, it waslike an honor because he was
serving Zeus.
How is that an honor?
That's a big deal to carryZeus's lightning bolts.
(07:24):
It's kind of rude, but okay.
That's his big thing.
I know that.
Okay.
Either way, when Pegasus haddied, he was rewarded with a
permanent place in the heavens,allegedly in the sky, and has a
constellation.
SPEAKER_02 (07:43):
Oh, yes, it that actually, so they do have a
constellation of a Pegasus.
SPEAKER_03 (07:49):
Yeah.
There's a constellation that youthat us in the northern
hemisphere can actually seereally well in the fall sky.
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
True.
SPEAKER_03 (07:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:58):
But the hard, but the easiest, but the easiest um,
what is it called again?
SPEAKER_03 (08:04):
What?
Constellation?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (08:06):
The easiest constellations probably is to
see the big dipper.
SPEAKER_03 (08:09):
Yeah.
So fun fact.
And then I believe if you followthat, then you'll find the
Pegasus in the sky.
But we might need ourfact-checker to fact-checker to
double check that.
Yeah, fact checker.
Okay, let me tell you about someof the legends.
So this is a legend that camefrom Pegasus in Greek mythology,
(08:31):
is that anywhere a winged horsehoofed down or touched down on
earth, a spring of water camefrom the ground.
That is fake.
No, that's in the mythology.
Well, mythology is wrong.
Well, that's why it's mythology.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
I know, but you said legends and legends are legends
are sometimes not true.
Okay.
So I don't think that is true.
No.
Because when in Harry Potter,when those Pegasus touch the
ground.
There is no Pegasus in HarryPotter.
SPEAKER_03 (09:09):
Those are thus trels.
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
We're saying they're we're saying I guess technically
they're a winged horse.
Yeah, so and but when they touchthe ground, nothing came up.
SPEAKER_03 (09:19):
Okay.
But it also nobody can see them.
But they're still winged horse,so you're not wrong.
Just not a pegasus.
SPEAKER_02 (09:27):
Wait, but I thought the people in Harry Potter, no,
like when in the Gauntlet ofFire, when they were flying,
those were not Frestrals, thoseare Pegasus's.
No, I think those were thrust.
No, those are Pegasus'.
SPEAKER_01 (09:40):
She's talking about the boat being.
I know what she's talking about.
Yeah, those were Pegasus's.
Really?
Yeah.
The French ladies.
SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
I don't, I don't.
Do we have our myth test?
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
Well, so fact checker coming in.
Hi.
Uh that is my friend.
Pegasus constellation is nowherenear the Big Dipper.
You actually have to go BigDipper to the North Star to
Cassiopedia, which will theneventually get you to the great
spare great square of Pegasus.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (10:07):
And now can we can I we need a fact checker?
We need you again.
Also, just letting you know thefact checker is my dad.
SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
Hi.
SPEAKER_03 (10:15):
Okay, while he's looking up, can I tell you other
things that Pegasus was usedfor?
Yes.
Okay.
In World War II, the Pegasussymbol was used as an emblem for
a new parachute troop in theUnited Kingdom.
That is true.
And their insignia was a Pegasuswith a rider, and they wore it
(10:36):
on their upper sleeve so theywould know what company they
came from.
Oh.
And you know what their what Ibelieve the current company name
is?
What?
P Company.
Oh, but I but I th but thatshould be um well P for what?
Pegasus is that's cool though.
True.
Okay, and then in Tuscany, doyou know where Tuscany is at?
(10:58):
In Italy.
SPEAKER_02 (11:00):
I was just thinking that.
Wow.
I was literally just thinkingItaly.
SPEAKER_03 (11:05):
Okay.
Tuscany has had it in theirculture or in their city since
1537.
So, and the first thing That'sas old as my dad.
That's like much older than dad.
And that's how you roast yourdad.
Uh-huh.
They incorporated it as a cointhe very first time in 1537.
(11:27):
And then later the Tuscan flagand the coat of arms um still
use as a pegasus.
They still do.
They still have it on their onall their emblems and flag and
stuff.
So if you look up the Tuscanflag, there's a pegasus on it.
SPEAKER_02 (11:45):
I'm looking up, but I don't see a flag, or I'm I'm
I'm looking up, but I don't seea Tuscan or a flag.
I don't see anything.
I just see soundproof stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (11:58):
A lot of soundproof stuff.
Okay, well, that's probably goodfor this.
So the other part, the one thatI was surprised to hear about,
was all the other differentcultures that also have winged
horses in their mythology.
SPEAKER_02 (12:12):
Yeah, did you know, like over, I believe, 20?
SPEAKER_03 (12:17):
No, I did not write down that many.
SPEAKER_02 (12:19):
Oh, over about like 10.
SPEAKER_03 (12:26):
I have um, I think I have four.
Well, there is so much more.
I didn't find those in myresearch.
Well, one thing.
SPEAKER_02 (12:38):
I'm not good with legs.
So, well, that could have beenright.
It could have been wrong.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
So just trust me on this.
Okay.
Okay.
So the first one I came acrosswas actually um in that Hindu
text featured a white horse thatwas winged named Devdada.
Devdata?
Devdada.
Devdada.
(13:05):
And it was a horse of Kelki.
And that was given to LordShiva.
Oh, I know who Shiva is.
Shiva.
Yeah.
And in Hindu culture, they areknown for their speed, their
freedom, and their divine grace.
(13:27):
Ooh, one minute.
SPEAKER_02 (13:29):
Can we check in on our fact checker to see what the
thing is?
SPEAKER_01 (13:35):
Yeah.
I was kind of wondering becauseso it's a blue carriage with the
bow batons.
SPEAKER_03 (13:41):
Yeah, bow baton.
SPEAKER_01 (13:44):
It's bow batten?
SPEAKER_03 (13:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (13:46):
Oh.
Yeah.
We're we're both not great atpronouncing things, I guess.
Um they don't have pegasuses,but they do have a Braxton
winged horses, which are adistinct breed of winged horse
conflated with the mythologicalpegasus.
SPEAKER_03 (14:09):
I told you so.
So it's a winged horse again.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (14:12):
It's a winged horse, but not a thestral, but not
technically a pegasus.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
Because, of course not.
SPEAKER_03 (14:19):
Right.
Because that would be too cool.
SPEAKER_01 (14:22):
That would be.
SPEAKER_03 (14:23):
Okay.
So then I'm gonna tell you inthe Chin in the Chinese
mythology, there is also anotherwinged horse.
Aww.
And this winged horse was saidto have traveled, to have been
able to travel for hundreds ofmiles a day.
(14:44):
I think a plant can do that.
Um, it's called a longma, whichis called a dragon horse.
And it is this is a differenttype that is also depicted as a
dragon horse, hence the name,um, that were colorful, that had
colorful scales and walked onwater.
(15:07):
Walked on water.
Okay.
And then the another one wasfrom Tibet or Tibetan mythology,
and this was called a lunta.
Alunta.
Lungta.
Lunta.
Yes.
And that is said to have carriedprayers from humans to the
(15:28):
heavens and known for having alarge gem on its back, which
represents the buoyancy of lifeand goodness of the human
spirit.
SPEAKER_02 (15:39):
So it's kind of like a How can that thing carry that
big of a thing?
SPEAKER_03 (15:44):
Well, it's a Pegasus.
SPEAKER_02 (15:45):
Did it like it have it like stuck in its back or
like I don't know.
It just said it it was a gem onits back.
Did it carry it like a troll?
Did it carry it in a backpackwith eyes like Dora?
No, it was on its back.
SPEAKER_03 (16:04):
I don't know why I'm laughing like that.
Okay, I'm gonna keep going.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, in Iran, winged horses wereused to carry souls and were
manifestations of their gods,which is often pictured as one
leg raised and is often used onthe backs of coins and seals.
(16:24):
Like seals, as in likegovernment seals, not like the
animal.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, governmentseals.
Yeah, like stamps.
Are those like navies?
No, no, like stamps, like yourlike it's an official letter.
It's sealed.
I th oh sealed for yourprotection.
SPEAKER_02 (16:41):
Oh, yeah.
I th I th I heard navy seal.
SPEAKER_03 (16:45):
No, no.
SPEAKER_02 (16:46):
I heard navy seal.
SPEAKER_03 (16:48):
Okay.
Then the last one I learnedabout was it's called an
Ethiopian Pegasus.
And this was inspired by theGreek Pegasus and said to be
native of Ethiopia, and it haslarge wings, a reddish coat, and
a large horn.
I think that's called a pegasi.
(17:10):
Pegasi is plural for allpegasus.
Plural.
Plural.
Plural.
Yeah.
So I thought that was coolbecause it has um a red coat,
just like we have red hair.
Yeah.
And it's got a large horn, likea unicorn.
SPEAKER_02 (17:27):
As you as you see, we have red hair on our title.
I don't brush my hair that much.
That can you edit that out?
SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
How dare you?
SPEAKER_03 (17:40):
Nina's got to hear this.
Okay, but did you so where Iknow you get frustrated a lot is
you see a lot of pegasus orpegasi with horns on their head,
which isn't always accurate.
Yep.
And that is what has been reallyhard to find is like it's hard
to find a pegasus without ahorn.
(18:03):
Because a lot of people like todraw unicorns with wings.
So technically, it is a wingedhorse.
Okay, don't be.
But really, if they wanted toget it correct, if they are
drawing a winged horse with ahorn, then it should be have a
red coat.
Oh.
That would be proper.
Oh, like the color of her hair.
Like the exact color.
(18:24):
I I don't know, but it just saysto have a reddish coat.
Oh, interesting.
So that is what I found.
That's what I found out on myresearch.
What do you think about that?
Half of that, like a quarter ofthat, is not correct.
SPEAKER_02 (18:43):
What do you mean?
The the un the unicorn part.
The the where they where theyhad the horns, the unicorn part.
Okay, but that's correct forEthiopian culture.
True.
And if there's any Ethiopiansout there, the culture stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
So uh.
Either way, I think therethere's a lot more winged horses
than I expected to find outabout.
Same.
Yeah, because you and I onlyreally talk about Pegasus.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:15):
Fun fact.
The Ethiopian Pegasus wasn'tfrom Ethiopian culture.
It's from Greek.
No, it's from uh medievalbeasties, where Pliny the Elder,
which he he wrote a bunch ofweird books.
(19:35):
Don't worry about him.
Decided that there were the redfurred two-horned no, this one
isn't doesn't even have twohorns.
SPEAKER_03 (19:46):
Let me see.
SPEAKER_01 (19:47):
I'm reading the Wikipedia article.
SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
Can I see two?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:50):
So I should probably cite my sources better.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
Can I see?
SPEAKER_01 (19:52):
Yeah.
See, it's that drawing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
It kind of looks like a sphinx.
It kind of looks like a with theYeah, it looks like a Sphinx.
Okay, well, cool.
SPEAKER_03 (20:04):
Thanks, Dad.
Yeah.
That's what I write in my books.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:10):
And in my sources.
And she's Wikipedia.
Every single she did Google.
SPEAKER_03 (20:18):
I have actual books.
She has actual books.
Sorry.
No, no, no.
But okay, so here's there waslike some like disgruntle with
the research, I guess, and thatit can look, it is can it looks
differently than what somepeople describe it.
(20:38):
But in part of the culture, howsome people describe it is as
large wings, a reddish coat, anda large horn.
Like a large horn?
A large horn.
Yeah.
Like as big as hell.
And a large individual horn.
That's it.
Specifically said individualhorn.
Okay.
(20:58):
So that is what we got, Maze.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_02 (21:02):
I like it.
I feel like this fur pod thisfirst podcast went pretty good.
Yeah, I think so too.
SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
We messed up a bunch.
Yeah, but that's the the joy ofediting.
SPEAKER_01 (21:18):
Thanks.
SPEAKER_03 (21:20):
She messed up more than me.
That's true.
SPEAKER_02 (21:23):
I didn't mess up once.
SPEAKER_03 (21:25):
Well, that's because you're spitting it out.
SPEAKER_02 (21:26):
You're the one of two of us that doesn't have any
mus, that doesn't have any likeacademer stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (21:36):
Why are we talking about this?
I don't know.
We went to a different subject.
We did.
Okay.
So in the next one, what we'regonna do is you're not gonna
know what the creature is.
Oh my goodness.
It'll be a surprise.
Oh my goodness.
So this first time was a littlespecial because we had to go
with the Pegasus, because that'sjust that's our mythical
(21:58):
creature.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:59):
Yeah.
If if it was a real animal, thatwould personally be my favorite
in.
SPEAKER_03 (22:03):
Yeah, probably.
Okay, so our next podcast isgonna be surprise because I get
to pick the creature and you getto give us your live reaction to
it.
For being on live?
You get we get to record thelive reaction that you have.
Okay, okay.
All right.
So that is that is our firstepisode of Creature Chats with
(22:27):
Maisie and Mom.
And we will we will uh talk toyou guys next time.
Bye.
Bye.
Thanks for listening.
SPEAKER_02 (22:37):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (22:39):
In shadows, deep in starlit skies where ancient
oases never die.
We walk the path where legendstread, and summon the world
once.
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