After Dark "Dream Screen" with Coven of Screams (18+ episode)

Recorded 4/18/25 Livestream
"Dream Screen" WARNING: Tonight's stream will contain graphic content. Listener/viewer discretion is advised. Joanna and I are at it again with another discussion on dreams. We'll be going over another dive into the dark side of dreams that really stayed with us even after we woke up. What do they mean? What are our dreams trying to tell us? Dont forget, Creeps! Tickets are now on sale for Ghouliecon 2025! www.ghouliecon.com Come join in the creep-tastic festivities and stop by our booth to be a part of the Stone Tape Theory experiment. Are people's energy adding to our specimens? Will they read EMF? Will the spirit talker app give us words and clues as to who may have touched these items before us? IG : @ghouliecon Coven of Screams : @coven_of_screams_llc

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:23):
O Subcreeps. I'm so happy to be back again here

(01:05):
on Creepy Confidential after Dark. Today's after Dark live stream,
as you can see next to me, is featuring a
very familiar face, the Queen of the Gholies, the supreme
of the screens. I have a new one today, right,
miss Joanna, Welcome back to this is now. We are

(01:25):
now two for two with talking about our dreams. So
I think this is a thing because they are creepy.
So we are doing this after dark though this dream
screen a little bit differently because we are diving into
the dark side of our dreams, our nightmares. Perhaps what

(01:46):
our brain is trying to tell us this is the
not so bubbly side of our brains, and we will
talk about that here in just a moment now. The
last time we combined our forces, we recorded the live
full episode episode forty of What Dreams May Come, which
went ravishingly. Thank you so much for being hard, it

(02:09):
was so much fun. We talked about the history of dreams,
the mythology of dreams. Then we took our kind of
I would say kind of the most the one that
pops out in our head of a recurring dream, and
then we told that dream and then tried to interpret
it and dissect it. And don't worry, you know, this
is just an introduction, but I'm going to show you

(02:29):
I have the books I have that we're ready for
that now. However, with today, if you're tuning in, today's
stream comes with a disclaimer before I even get into
the thank yous and introductions. This one does feature graphic content.
We're going to be talking about things that are scary.

(02:52):
We're going to be talking about blood, maybe murder. So
this is for an eighteen and up or if you
just cannot handle those kind of things, we're gonna be
talking about it. Because this is just what our brains
have produced for us. And we just want to make
sure that anyone who's tuning in and listening this is
a This is an eighteen and up m a type

(03:15):
of podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Very much so not our fault.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Actually, yeah, no, these because this is just what our
brains do to us. So we're diving back into the
dream interpretation. Personally, I've been doing some research on dream incubation.
I know, I was texting you all we were at
work and I was like listening to these people talk
about you know, these scholars talk about dream incubation and

(03:38):
so I'm going to talk about that. And the creep
cards have return.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm so excited you gave those Austin Jeb and I
was like, oh yeah, they're coming back. For those who
are listening and not watching, you can hear the cards
these are. We're going to be talking about those later.
So we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Ask are our queen of the screens here. We're gonna
spice it up a little bit, if that's a hint
with some of these questions. So stay tuned, creeps. That's
coming later. But before we get going here, some announcements
and then some thank you. Now both of us have
our names and what we do attached to a little

(04:21):
thing called Gholi Kan and we want to make sure
now Creepy confidential. As a partial sponsor, Joanna is the
curator and creator of Ghouli Khan and I have this
great little flyer. Awesome job on this.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I shout out to Lou Money, Lou Money, and then
that is a father Jerome and justin Jeff.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
We killed it.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Ah, Yes, this was wonderful. Oh I loved it because
you know me and my creator, my character creation. Oh
I love it and It just inspired me to just
go crazy for this. Absolutely love it. So I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Can you tell everybody who's tuning in that hasn't heard
me talk about it just a little bit about Guli Kan. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
So it is a convention that the screen team and
I we are putting together. We are feverishly working behind
the scenes for real for this con It is a
creator based on so everything that we do is really
to bring the spot the spotlight onto the horror content
creators and the community itself. It is definitely a very

(05:23):
large blend of like the hot industry. If you can
tell Gesture Jeff, which is Nick and then yerdie Father Jerome.
They are scared actors at the darkness in Saint Louis,
and that is why I really wanted to have them,
you know, work with Gulikan because I personally love haunted
houses and I feel like there's.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
A huge part of it. Are you part of the
love of scary or everything? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
And they are just two very seasoned actors and they
are bringing so much creativity to the con itself, and
it's just bridging the gap between the two worlds and
the it that's what the coin is that's going on.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I'm very very stoked. Now for those who are maybe
fellow creators, I'm you know, podcasters. We have made sure
I put this up. Googi Kan is still looking for vendors,
artists and other content creators at this point, so I
wanted to make sure that I've showed this and put
this up. Has the dates for July twelfth and thirteenth.

(06:23):
You will see, of course Creepy Confidential at our table.
They're very excited about that. I'll have the touch table,
which I'll keep talking about, where you can be a
part of the experiment. You can either try and feel
whatever memories may be left on that and or try
and place your memories onto the items so that that's

(06:44):
going to be fun. And then also of course you
can come talk about creepy stuff at our table. So
love it, Love it. Now. Big part that I'm excited
for is the Excellence Awards. Now, while I may not,
you know, I'm not known for being a horror content creator.
On the backside, when I am not Noel of Creepy Confidential,

(07:06):
I create characters that are very horrific that are for
how usually for Halloween and this particular one you guys
have met Madame Creep in a promo for the awards,
but you did not see her face. You do not
know what she looks like. And let's just say, you
guys are going to be so absolutely floored and I

(07:30):
cannot wait for you guys to meet Madam Creep in
real life.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's gonna be so good.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's gonna be so much fun. And then also I
want to thank the Creep Nation real quick for coming
out for the library lectures.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
They are let's do fun, let's do around claws for
you just step over what you just did, what you're
about to do. So we got this moment of fact
that you created your own paranormal.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Tour and you are, like, you know, teaching the masses
of the parents.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
So everyone in the comments, I want everyone to, Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It is. It is so much fun. And I am
so glad. I just and I just realized I didn't
have the comments up, so now I can see that
we have some comments here. I absolutely had a blast
doing it. So we do have Nick in the comments.
We're still in the introduction, we're not even like into
it yet. And of course we have ghost dogs also

(08:31):
aka mister creep he is here, and then he's all,
he's such a such a supporter, and I am Professor
paranormal right now, Yes, ma'am, it was. I am definitely.
It's not going to be the last. That was like
just the sampler just to get me started, because I

(08:53):
gotta I got a taste. I got a little taste
of what it's like to find teach, and it was
so much fun. So I have announcements I believe are
are just are completed for now. But before we get going,
you know, I have to give everybody the Creepy Confidential.
Welcome so Creepy, so Creeps onto the show.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Sub Creeps, and welcome to Creepy Confidential. Is Mothman really
a supernatural force predicting impending doom? Did Apollo eleven really
land on the moon in nineteen sixty nine? Did you
find out if that was a cult that was living
just two doors down that you wave to every single

(09:40):
day when you got your mail? If these are the
things you ponder when you should be sleeping, then I
would like to welcome you to Creepy Confidential. I'm your host, Noel,
you're resident Weirdo Wisconsin. I open case files on my
favorite cryptids, cults, conspiracies, and other worldly creepy with new cases,

(10:02):
live broadcasts, and local lore. Some stories have been lost
with time, others are perhaps still happening today in your
local communities, right up under your very creepy noses. So
get ready, creeps, It's Creepy Confidential.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Welcome back, creeps. I don't like you're It's creepy Confidential.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Creepy Yeah, every single time.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, I was probably one of out of I don't
know why, but I just you don't you don't think
people have the same like love for it. And then
when I went when we went to Saint Louis and
we were sitting around the Toxic Icon table and we
were we were doing like we were in the podcast,
and I said that and I was like, creepy Confidential
and Nick and Yurdi went great, like this is great. Yeah,

(11:09):
it was like the first time where I was like, oh,
because you said it was and if y'all y'all need
to watch that creep killed the episode, like so, but
you said it was such.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like and it's creepy Confidential.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I try, you know, I get I will Before we
get rolling, I gave mister Creep such a hard time
for using his radio voice. I will call it out.
He's probably in there saying this in his head, and
then I catch myself doing it and I'm like, oh, okay,
I get it. It just feels correct.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yes, I feel like what happened.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes, So now, goolies and my creep nation, you will
notice we seem a little more comfortable again tonight, right now,
because we're going to be covering the dark dreams.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I made sure to wear my Lemon pe js and
I think sweater you do. I need. I have to
figure because I know you like the same place as
I do when it comes to you. And of course
I have any again staring into everybody's soul as he does.
So that is my plushy and then of course my

(12:18):
tea because this is bedime.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Before this is water mm hmm yep, water delicious.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh, ghost Dog, says radio voice for life. I'm getting
better at it. I think I'm getting better at all. Right,
So now we have everything, all the introductions out of
the way. I'm I don't know about you, but I'm
ready to get to get into this. Yes, I'm glad.

(12:56):
Although when you I have a feeling when I say it,
you're gonna be like, wow, No, well is really sad
like not like oh sad, like sad for her, Like
she really is emotionally broken. She is broken.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Hashtag it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes, Oh my gosh, that's totally it.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
To days.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I had a long These are the dream I think
I had this dream a long time ago. So I
haven't had any of these really awful dreams like this
in a long time. So that's good. That's a good thing. However,
it is so vivid and so filled with despair and emotion.
I never forgot it, and I think some dreams are
like that. Now, my dream may elicit emotions from people

(13:44):
as they're listening to it, and that is okay. But
like I talked about, the saras is a disclaimer because
we're going to be talking about some pretty intense things,
the fact that our brains can do something to us
like this, both of us. Because even just kind of
what you've hinted at, I'm excited to hear yours like dreams.
And then you are locked in a cell as you

(14:04):
sleep and you are stuck there is what that is
what's creepy because I guarantee if people are like, this
isn't creepy, this is dreams, and I was like, oh,
they they match because they're horror movies you cannot get
out of sometimes night terrors, nightmares in general. And I

(14:25):
dwelled on this dream for a long time because it
was just you woke up feeling so like it's just heavy.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
How else to describe it. Now we once and we
have our dreams. Now do you do you want to
tell your dream first? Do you want me to go first?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I shouldn't do this, so mine, I can tell mine
first and then because I think you told yours first
last time.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, perfect, that's what I was thinking about. I was
letting you choose.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So okay, this is I just had this last night.
I've never had this dream. I've never.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
So when I dream sometimes I go to a lot
of different places. As if the previous episode I talked
about the three rooms, there's every time my dream, it's
always multiple rooms when it's like a very just intense
or remember like I remember the dream very well, So
it starts out off.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Now, rest in peace, my mama. She passed away back
in twenty Let me look at.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Her obituary part I love you, Mom, but that's like
that makes you know, so you know, just a while ago,
now I'm not you know, it's not been like we
don't know what happened something like that. Sure, lung cancer
we already know. So the start of the start of
the dream, we were in like a courtroom.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Not funny, but it's just so weird. We were in
like a courtroom.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
And if you've seen Harry Potter and when they're in
like the Ministry of Magic and they're like in.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Courts or whatnot, like that circular yeah, where.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It's almost like the like the medical audiences, like its
just yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
So I was there. Now these dreams also like had
a lot of people. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Any of these people I don't know, but it was
crowded and like every single.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
One of these places I don't know, I don't know
who they were.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
But the only thing that you heard is somebody coming
down and said she's gonna die in her sleep or
she got killed in her dreams.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Nobody said it was my mom.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Nobody said it, but I knew that that's who they
was talking about.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
And then a split image of now I don't know
have y'all. I don't know. Have you seen The Evil Dead?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh yeah with Bruce Bruce, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
With ast and on them. They had plenty like remakes and.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Everything I've seen the originals, not the new ones.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Twenty thirteen people did.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's freaking kiss that one. But so in a lot
of them, like they have you know how people are
just like contorted. Yeah, so it was like my mom
that was contwarted, but it was somebody. I don't know
who it was, but like it was a split image
and the person was just contorted on the side, and

(17:16):
then I went to the other, the other dream other. However,
it's like you just like hopped on a tram and
went to a new one, like wake Up Fall back
and sleeve wake Up Fall. Okay, So this one I
was in, I was in the house. I don't know
whose house I was in at all. Somebody was there
with me. I don't know who it was, but the
house was completely pitch black, and I was like, hey girl,

(17:39):
I got to go upstairs and go to the bathroom.
She was just on her phone. I don't know who
she was, but she was rude. I was like, so
it's modern day, Like all you saw was the glow
like if somebody was on the wall just doing this,
Like you saw the glow in her face of the
cell phone, but you did not see her features at all.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
So I went upstairs. There was bathrooms upon bathrooms upon
bathrooms upon bathrooms. So we're in multiple rooms again. I
don't know why.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I always just don't have one singular area that I
go to.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
But girl, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Options.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Maybe I just like options.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
You just like options.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
What? Then I chose a bathroom, did I guess, did
my business whatever? And then I walked out of the
bathroom and I was in a diner.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I was in a diner.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
This was the when I tell you, this is the
weirdest dream I've ever had by far. So I'm in
this diner. When I tell you it was crowded. It
was so crowded. I don't know who these people were.
But this is when trigger warning murder happens. So there

(19:00):
was like a serial killer on the loose. There was
somebody on the loose, and there was like a bunch
of like FBI agents, CIA agents. I knew they weren't cops,
but they were somebody that was supposed to be there
to protect us. So I'm like cool, And what I
remember is, so this is so like idly specific, but

(19:22):
when even how some of the places used to have
the counter that just goes like down, like it's if you.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Were like on the end, like waitresses would go in
and out of it. Yes, yes, yes, okay, yes yes,
I was how to.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Like do that. And so next thing, I know, like
the one of the CIA people like put it down
just like took it down, and I and everything was
just kind of feeling a little weird at that point.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I was never scared throughout this whole entire thing. I
was always just like it was like, what are you doing?
I was confused the whole time.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
And I remember being in the back of this man
I saw hair coming out, like it looked like he
had a mask on, and I saw hair coming out.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
So I was like, oh, that's the killer.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
You knew.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
You're like, why did I try to take his mask off?
I don't seen, I know, I'm like, what am I doing?
But so yep, pull up to pull up the masks.
I tried to do a Michael try to unmask and
then I like it was a split second, and then

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we're all the people that weren't like the CIA agents
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
We're all on those walls.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
We're all like on the edge of the walls, and
we were getting shot point blank in ahead from.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
What now, Mike, why would.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
You say that I had he knows. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Maybe that's why I wasn't scared.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Because I was like, You're like, I'm good. So you
got shot in the head, you were you were deceased,
or you were still alive.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
So this is like this, this is the last part
of the dream. I know. I literally went to like
seven different places. I don't know why, so.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Shot point Like I was never scared though, like the
bullet or like the gun was right on my forehead
and I was just like.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
You're like, well, I know where you're going.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Shot me in the head.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I woke up in a party in a coyote ugly
neon sign house.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
It was another house. What okay, girl?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
When I tell you I was so cused either do that?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
You're like I was. I was living it.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
But the thing is, I was so conscious throughout the
all of these all of these transitions.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
So that's why I remember it so vividly, Like I
was not asleep at all, and I woke up.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Coyote ugly neon, times were hooding to holler and people
were just having a time.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Freak me out the most. The only thing that really
freaked me out was I saw somebody. I don't know
who this gentleman was, but he stole my phone. And
when I mean, it was my phone like case and
all I knew that was my phone in my dream,
and I was like, can.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I have my phone back? He was giving me a
drink and he was like, you can't have it back.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I said hmm, And then I woke up and then
you're up.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I do have my phone. Wow.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So there's some parts of the dream that once we
once we get to dissecting our dreams, I think maybe
we'll we'll like do our dreams. We'll talk about the
cards and then we'll dissect it at the end. I
think there's certain parts that really pop out. Because I
was reading and the thing was like, it's not an
a necessarily the dream. It's the things that pop out

(23:03):
that are that that make you. Those are the things
that you should be dissecting. And I was like, okay, yeah, wow,
that's a weird one. It did you not to be
too grand you know, like I'm not but I asked,
this is this is a this is an m A
one right exactly when you were shot in the head,
did you like you were boom pulled the trigger and

(23:24):
you never saw like the brains or anything.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I felt the warmth of the blood just and.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Then that was it, like going down, okay, and I.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Saw like what I like, and the CIA agents and
I don't know why I keep saying saying c I
A agents, but they weren't cops. But they were not
normal people because they look very different the exactly. And
it felt because as we were all on the walls,
still don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Who any of these people were. You know, we was
just in there together. It was in the trenches together. Apparently.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I was like, can you help us? We were like,
can y'all please help us? Like the killer is right there.
And when I tell you, it was just like they
were just standing there.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Looking at us, getting pop pop pop one by one. Yeah,
like I was added to the list, thanks buddy.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But I was never scared.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
I was like, Okay, I guess party Heaven.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah, that I mean, that's a journey you were.
You were on a journey to go a whole lot
of places.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I'm so tired. When I woke up, I was like,
because I woke up.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Before my alarm, and whenever I do that, I tend
to try not to look around because I don't know
if I'm still in there or not.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
So I just like literally lay on my bed and.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I just find my cat and just like try to
start to pet the cat and be like, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Just she's not she's your anchor, Like hmm.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I never thought of it like that time. I'm just like,
oh no, okay.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah, because like because when these streams happened, these bad ones,
Davidson was my anchor. M He's just big because he
was always above my head. He always slept right above
my head. You can ask anybody that is around me,
big chonky orange cat right here on my head, like

(25:12):
on my pillow. I had my pillow and then his
pillow above it. And that was like he was always
with me when he even the day that I woke
up in the wee or early hours of the morning
and it was it was his something was wrong. That
was the day that awful things happened. He was still
up with his arm on my shoulder, like letting me know.

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So there, I think animals are are little anchors.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
That's good, I did. I just like, I just regulate myself.
It's not proudly.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Okay. So now we have we have yours. Yours has
a lot going on. That's like a that's like a
potpourri of dream things. If you will it was it's okay, yeah, okay,
so I will. I will try and paint mine the
best that I can. And like I said, you guys
are gonna be like, I hope she's on mental health

(26:13):
medication and yes I am, that's not accurate. Yes, before
I start, So this one, this miss creep, I just
wake up kicking and swinging. Oh yeah, if you don't like, hey,
you know hey.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
And you better like a stick. Hey. Oh that's how yeah,
that's how starting. Other people wake up and you.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Have all right. So for my dream, the entire dream
was in black and white except for one specific part,
which I'll explain. But not like Sin City or even
like a black and white photo, but one that looked
more like it had been sketched from charcoal. Okay, okay,

(26:59):
everything had that kind of charcoali scheduling me to it
and from the moment the dream began, I was upset,
like inconsolably upset, like crying whole nine yards and imagine
being lost for so long, like you like you're your

(27:22):
concern that the brain is just is just overcome with
emotion and you're not like you're never going to find
your way out. That's that's what was going through. And
I was traveling across this city of some kind, and
at one point I'm walking, and then the next point
I'm taking a bus, and then I'm on a tram

(27:43):
of some kind, like an above ground like thinks Chicago
like train, not a subway. And every time I would
try and ask somebody for help, it was it was
as if they didn't even see me. But but I
didn't pass through them. It wasn't like I was a ghost.
It was just as if you know I was not there,

(28:07):
that I was not there. Yep. Every time that I
would get off of a bus, I would like you
would hear the like when the little airlock come on yea,
and I would step off, and as the bus drives away,
I'm just I have no idea where where I am,
and I can tell I'm on a street corner because
I see the street signs, but I'm I try and

(28:27):
like turn around and hail the bus and you hear
it take off. I can't read the street corner, but
it feels familiar to me in dream, okay, And it
starts to rain, and it and like not just sprinkle,
like torrential downpour rain, and I remember I was I

(28:50):
felt so helpless as the dream progressed, and I kept
screaming at the sky for help, like as if God
might hear my cries, like that's how desperate. And another
bus picks me up and drops me off in this
busy city. And I've never been to New York, but
it reminds me of what you see right the way

(29:11):
the street and the tall ways, the buildings, that sort
of thing a very city esque, yeah, like big like
big city esque. And I'm soaking wet and it continues
to pour, and I remember I saw a newspaper stand,
but not like the one where a person selling it.
Do you remember the ones used to have to put
coins in and the front would pop open if you

(29:33):
can get a newspaper. But people would just take a
whole bunch of newspapers and put them all the top
and I remember seeing the front and like reading reading
the front of it, but I don't I don't remember,
you know, I can't read what the newspaper says. But
it was like I should have I should have known,
like it was a big moment, right, oh and it
And it's at that moment I realize I have like

(29:55):
an epiphany within the dream that I'm dreaming. I know
that I am dreaming and all this sobbing and emotion,
you know, might might be happening in real time. Like
I'm able to wonder if I'm crying in real life
as I'm trapped inside of this dream, and I'm able

(30:16):
to think this almost like elucid dream, but I'm not
able to control It's it's such a weird feeling, almost
like out of body experience. And I start closing my
eyes and telling myself, you know, like wake up, wake up,
like trying to slap myself out of it. Don't you
hate that? Like you know that you're in a dream
and you feel so awful that you're like, just wake up.

(30:40):
And I opened my eyes in my dream, and I
noticed that I am bleeding profusely from both of my arms,
like all the way from crook of my arm, down
my arms, Oh my god, just profusely bleeding. And that's
the first time that I see color. I know it

(31:01):
is bright red and and it's diluted because like when
it's you know, when water and blood combined. And I
just you know, all I can see is these like
stark areas of like crimson across my arms. And then
I realized it's across my chest. So it was like

(31:21):
it was like I was holding myself like this, and
I noticed, and I start yelling again, like wake up,
wake up, come on, and I'm still in my dream
and I'm still aware, and then my eyes pop open.
Oh my heart is racing. Yeah, I'm I am, and
I am. I am certain that I had been yelling

(31:43):
in my dream like you know how you feel like
you like you're yea like froggy, like you've been in
a concert, right, And and then I was thrashing. But
I'll never I'll never know because I didn't have a
camera on me. It was as if my brain had
been hijacked into emotional torture, and I knew that's where
I gosh, that's feel so heavy last time. You know,

(32:09):
there's a lot going on and in my dream, I
could feel like the cold clothes like sneaking to me.
And I could feel the heavy rain, the sounds of
the bus, the rain falling, no thunder, no lightning. And
I could smell the exhaust and I could smell this.

(32:31):
I could smell the mineral smell of blood.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Did you feel anything with the blood?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
But there was no pain, so it wasn't like I
had injured myself.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Right, Well, that's good, that's but you know, yeah, oh
my gosh.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
It was absolutely bananas. So I guess that one is
a wild one. It's a wild one. So we have
an interesting comment the concept of Nichols area. I did
not know about this. He's just not saying it the
part of the brain responsible for language interpretation, to explain
why one might struggle to read in a dream, since

(33:10):
the area is less active during sleep.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
So a netflix evil. It's called evil. But mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
And she did a sleep paralysis and she was like
having a sleep prolysis problem whatnot.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
But in one of the.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Attacks, she looked up to see if she could read
something on the ceiling and she couldn't.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
And she said, I'm dreaming, You're not real, And that's
how she woke up. That just reminded me what he was.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
He was telling me about that one, and I was like,
that is so interesting. How oftentimes you can't you can't
read things and dreams and it totally makes sense. There's
like a scientific reason.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
So that's that ah seeping literally sleeping on dreaming.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
They're they're so interesting. And I think I during So
this dream happened during the same tumultuous time in my
life as the previous dream happened, So I think there
was a lot My brain was like maxed out on
what it could handle.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Mm hmmm mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
So and because I didn't give up, that's how it
was trying to right the ship.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
We won't give up somehow.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, we got to work this out somewhere.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Also, this is very dark humor, so I'm so sorry.
Ma a approved or a maturity warning, Yep, tonight was
a warning. I gave it to everybody.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
If you have coffee at mare because that looks so good.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
No, it's tea, it's it's sorry. And even if I
had coffee, I would tell you that it's something else
because I don't feel like anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
But it is. It is. I can't have Macha sounds delicious, right, Okay,
all right.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It's camrameal yeah, because it's cam Mill, it's good for you.
Get your going.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
So shall we proceed too. I was so jealous the cards.
I was so jealous of the cards last time.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well all right, so well I'm gonna set these up
here and we'll go one at a time here. So
first first question and we can both we'll both answer
these is do you dream often? And how often do
you dream? What's what's the quantity?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I think I dream a lot. Now do I remember
a lot?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I used to remember a lot more, not in this place,
but the place all that before.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I used to dream, not nice dreams.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I used to have my mayorsin a lot there, so
I remembered a lot more here.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I have not had a lot of dreams.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Like it's been very not to be. And I won't
put your laundry out there, but I've heard the difference
between the previous house and this house sounds like there
was a lot going on different spaces within your existence.
And that I mean, it could just be that your
brain's like breath.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Particularly you can get you can just sleep for a second.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Murdered last night in my sleep.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
But that's but there is a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Once in a lifetime murder.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's okay, yeah, just I just popped into my head.
I have I'm not sure. Are you familiar with Kim
Dracula the musician. No, but I'm it's like all jazz metal.
It's very strange. But the videos are reminded me of
your dream. We're one minute there's like a chick dr
dancing in a dress, and then really it's a dude
dancing in a dress. And then the next minute he

(36:39):
has a M sixteen and the next minute like all
over the place. So your dream is a Kim Dracula
music video.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Maybe put it to use, just maybe maybe not What happened.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
This one we'll come back to. So this one, because
I was describing the descriptions of it. Oh, I should
answer this dream often, I'm I used to dream same
thing when my life was way more stressful and tumultuous.
It was I dreamt often, and I was on mental
health medication then too, but not. There was a period
of time where I wasn't and then and now I'm

(37:22):
on it consistently and I rarely dream. I dreamt for
a while just after d died. Yeah, and he was
there and then I feel once once he knew I
was okay, he was like, I gotta go now. Yeah,
I got chili mac to eat. We'll see you guys later.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Oh he loved it.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
So are your dreams typically in color? Black and white?
And with two part question? Are they cartoon? Real time action?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Like?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
How what's the texture? Color and texture of your dreams color?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
I don't think I've ever dreamt in black and white.
I don't think I ever have to be honest, except, okay,
this is so random. And it was when I was
a kid, like a child.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I love my mama, But she.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Boughked this very weird and strange and haunted painting.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
It was a little girl and she wasn't a bonnet.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I was not expecting that.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Okay, we was, you know, we were in Covington. It
was all the kids, was living together with all my brothers.
Nobody moved out yet, and.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
And you were like, as that painting, this little girl.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
She tried to change me one time in my dreams.
She was black and white.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
I wasn't, but she was her name I don't think
like the name Rebecca comes to mind.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
She's never.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Like the name wasn't on the painting or anything, but
that was Rebecca. I have a damn name that you
gave her.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Why did you buy this? I told my mom, can.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
You throw this away? Haunted? Haunted home home decor.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Maybe that's why I'm weird now. I done got possessed
by Rebecca. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I see my dad I had. I had clowns
and paper mache. I know, I'm sorry you don't even
like the C word, but I had so many paper
mache clowns or paper marionettes that he would bring back
from other countries. I have a really cool one from
like the Philippines, and oh my god, I just I

(39:39):
don't know when. I remember when he first brought it home,
I was terrified because I just seen Chucky. And then
after Chucky was after, I was fine with it, even
though I'm not fine with it now. I think they're
really cool, but yeah, weirdness and see for mine, they
are all of the above. Sometimes they're like action movie
clear like four K Ultra Blu ray, and then and

(40:04):
then sometime I've dreamt in comic strip before every every
single I had like a word bubble and everything.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
That's some creative stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I have creative in me. I just like I'm just
now starting to think I get like let it out.
But yeah, I remember dreaming in black and in black
and white, and then I remember dreaming and Commons comic strip.
That was a weird one.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I have.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I have another. I don't want to give that dream awakes.
We might talk about that.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
I have another one.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
As we were talking about that one that when we
talked about Rebecca, it was a different But that's gonna
have me on the third one because that one is covered,
because I already had another one popping my head. Ladies
and gentlemen, there's gonna be a third installment. Weird and
wacky World of Dreams, scary. It was just weird, just weird. Yeah, okay,
so that one. I was curious if you were, like

(40:58):
what your texture and colors were. Now I briefly mentioned
dream incubation, and I think you know last time and
then this time, have you attempted it since our last discussion.
I'm a little nervous. I'm still I would want to
have somebody here with me in case I cannot like
wake up or like in case.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
You like incubate the wrong thing.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yes, because that's my thing is because I don't know
what I'm going to attract. Yeah, because I'm there's there's
a couple you know people either for instance, they they
incubated dreams so that they can see a loved one
in their dream, or they incubate the dream so that
they can you know, the remember they would get spells

(41:44):
or medicine, medicine prescriptions given to them.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
And so I think, yeah, you don't really know. I
think asking for a deceased is like like you never
bring back the dead mm in any instance, any move.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I have never asked my mom to come in my
dreams at all, and she will not be her.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
And I still like, don't.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Even even if she's in there, I don't necessarily ever
like talk to her.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, I'm just like, what's it all right? You just
stay over there? So home depot depologist, poltergeist, Oh home
deepoulter geist. My brain couldn't say that word for a second.
Put depot in there, but yes home and then haunted home.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Decor yes yes she did.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
That is a thing on the internet for those who
aren't searching for her, you know things because you know me,
I like they put a high price tag on haunted items,
haunted items, cursed items, and I think it's literally just
someone smearing wax on the outside saying it's haunted. But
and then you don't know what you're kidding.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
For dream incubation, do you think that that is a
learned skin or do you think you are either born
with the ability to do it or not.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I think born, because I think that.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
You are drawn to just like if you're drawn to
like the spiritual world or drawn to the creepy world,
you have something in you that already is wanting.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
To explore more, able to do them right exactly. Yes,
I think it's like being a medium. I think you're
because I've said it many times as a hot take.
There are not nearly as many mediums as people say
they are.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
There.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
No, there's no way, no way. And I think something
happened to them, like they were they were almost dead
and like hypoxic and it messed and then they had
like a near death or whatever. Or they're the light
yeah yeah, which and sense if that's the case, if
they saw the light, maybe they're kind of quasi reborn
into life. Oh yeah, that's a.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Love The theories that we just bring up when we
do these cards.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
So what we're here for now? This one because you
mentioned gunshots. This was my That was the only teaser
you gave me. And have you Have you ever truly
died in a dream like you knew X y Z happened,
you were dead and then you woke up.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
I've always been on the brink. I've never fully died.
I have always been like two seconds away. Yeah, this
was the first time that I actually, like, you know,
I've never been shot.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
This was the first time I got sladd.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
The first time I got in my head. It was
a little weird. I still wasn't scared.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
That's the thing. I was never scared of it. I
was just like it's I felt like I was getting
reborn in a way. To be honest, I felt like
it was my time and like.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Come back, go to the next go to the next life. Yeah, interesting, Okay.
Do you believe in reincarnation not on the earth?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I do. I was just curious with that. I just
don't want to be reincordinated to a plant.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Like if it isn't my house, you will live, girl,
you are.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Gonna because but you might go to somebody who hasn't
watered their plants in four years and they're just you know.
And then I don't reincarnation always because it's like, Okay,
obviously I'm not going to remember anything from this life.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Breaks me out breaks you don't know that.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
M Like, if I get reincarnated to somebody from like Philadelphia,
am I gonna be like, dang, I wonder what Kentucky is?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Like maybe I want to go to Kentucky. So that
stuff is so interesting to me too.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
And that's and I think from my religion's standpoint, I
don't I don't believe in it is. I think when
you're gone, you're gone. And however, Comma, there there are
instances where it kind of makes you go scratch your
head a little bit. Like, for instance, when I was
a little kid and I said I was ninety nine

(46:03):
and I was three and a half four years old.
I didn't even know the number ninety nine something like that,
or always dreaming of these Edwardian style houses and I'm
drawn to you know, right, just crazy. It's so weird.
So I like, in my mind, I'm like, I think, no,
I'm gone. You know, that's a that's a total sidebar,

(46:26):
But that question we.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Think of it this is why we are together because we.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Knew disclaimer to anybody who's listening after or during, we
knew if there were zero watchers or a thousand watchers,
we were still going to have this conversation. You are
basically listening to and watching our live chat literally on
this one, because we're covering a lot of weird, creepy things,
and I love it. Having to do with the death conversation. Now,

(46:57):
I have I have died in my dream once. I
had multiple gunshots to my chest and and I don't yeah,
I mean, like I can remember feeling I remember feeling
the sting, and I remember falling back, but I wasn't me,
Like I wasn't me somebody else in the dream. And

(47:18):
I remember falling back and feeling the sting. And as
soon as I think I died in my dream, I
like flew awake, like it was. I was wondering if I,
like was dying in my dream, and that was my
way of waking up. So that's that is. And then
I remember I read so when I was, oh, probably
in my early twenties, I was in a dumb ass

(47:41):
and got into a car with a drunk driver and
I was in the back seat also drunk, and they
flipped a Blazer down the mountainside and I was in
the back seat, not buckled, and the only thing that
stopped us probably from dying was a tree and it
like upside down like I felt like this, and all

(48:04):
of the things that I remember about that stay with me.
And then it happened in a dream, but I was
laying in the back Yeah, So while a while later,
I was laying in the back seat and I could
hear voices almost like you know, like you're trying to
take a nap in the back seat, like maybe you
used to sit in the back seat when like your
parents would drive or something, looking up at the ceiling,

(48:26):
and I could feel the car sway, and then all
of a sudden, it flew like it like shimmied, and
it went off the edge and I free floated. You
could feel the fulling and you can feel like like
this towards the tall like and it was falling, and
then we must have hit the basin and I woke up.

(48:48):
So those were the only times that popped into my head.
Then I remember, oh, my gosh, no, my brother's in here.
He says, it wasn't the pig blazer. Was it? No,
it wasn't. It was white. Oh, by the way, because
he's watching so he helped me. Right this he makes

(49:10):
really cool pens. I need a penny.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
I need a pan right now, Jim.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
This is wood and it has this cool black metal.
I have another one that and I all his pen.
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Give website.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
He's just that, I know, and he just did the
wow face. He's like this, like works his his day job,
family man, but he has a crafting heart because he
makes amazing things. Totally random, right. I told him I
was going to use it for for because I like

(49:51):
a like a good pen. I'm gonna save this one
for last. And then do you ever see yourself as
a child or an old person or are you always
the same age more.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
I've never seen myself as an old person, but a
child some like sometimes sometimes.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Sometimes, but I don't ever.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Like the thing is I rarely ever see myself in
a dream like yes, you know it's it's yeah, Like
the Guessa was the first time that I was like, Okay,
I see myself getting.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I see myself getting shot. Usually I just never see
myself at all in dreams.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I'm even like, like you know, floating above.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I never never, I always just and I but I
always know it's me because I feel so so alive
in the dreams.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I consciously like I know exactly what's going on.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
I could feel myself going from one place to another
to another because I wake up and physically I'm exhausted,
like I was so tired this morning, and that's how
I knew.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I was like, wow, I then went to some different
realms last night.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
That's wild. And you know, I've never saw I've never
seen myself as a child, and I've never I also
i've never seen myself elderly, m but I have seen
like myself because there's always like a camera above me
in a lot of when I just described there was
like an out of body camera like showing me this

(51:41):
is you, this is really what's happening. Happy, Yeah, like
you're in the deep doo dooo right now. Yeah. I
was curious because I you know, are do people dream
of being older, younger or what have you? Now? I
mentioned medication now because I think I've I think my
medication like dumbs down the dreams because I take you know,

(52:05):
it takes stuff for for my mental health issues and
I find that I barely dream. It's it's rare that
I dream. Do you think that there's a chance that
it dumbs it down or or even do you think
there's a chance that it modifies the dreams and gives
you like fake readout.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
So I don't think it dumbs it down at all.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I don't know if you've heard the theory of the
when you take too much benadryl, you dream of a
black man hat like a black or a man in
a black hat. I have, and now I've had.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
To take a medication urban legend.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
This is why I love it because if you're yeah,
welcome to the creep nation, bibs the anything, I think
it like opens you up a little war to be honest, Oh,
to kind of experience experience something wherever we go in

(53:08):
our dreams, because we definitely do not stay here.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
So not necessarily like a psychotropic or something.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
You think it just oh, it just brings your boundaries down,
Yeah a little bit.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Yeah, interesting, I like, I forgot about the Benner drill.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I've never and I've had allergic reactions for like years.
I was allergic to we a very like when I
was a teenager and I had highs everywhere, So I
haven been a drill a lot.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
And then sometimes when I just want to go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah I use it. Yeah, just take my time lit
all PM like a ninety nine year old woman, really,
get some water, go to bed, like yeah, night night.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
And I've never dreamt of that, Like I've never dreamt
of him or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Most people have. I'm like, I don't know. I just
dreamed by getting shot, So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Now I think if I take my medicine and I
don't go to sleep, it's like how ambient used to
do that to people? It did it to me. Then
I start like my brain starts miss, it starts freaking
out like ghosts in the hallway, and yeah, like it's
I need to just go to night night. Yeah, go bad?

(54:17):
All right, the last car? Have you ever had a
spicy slash? N see seventeen dream. We do not need
gross detail, but have you I have to I'm there, yep, women, yep,

(54:45):
I think grown men as well. This is not exist
you know. I think that everybody is capable of it. Yeah,
because I had to ask. Now we're gonna get a
little technical. Okay, if oh did any physical reactions, Yeah,

(55:06):
reactions of any kind happening mirror, like like if you
die in your dream, you wake up in your heart's pounding,
did you have any sort of physical interaction reactions that
it woke you up.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Absolutely, and then disappointment in the when I woke up.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Right that you're like you were dreaming. I feel that,
I feel that, like this is this Okay, everybody, it's.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Okay, we're grown. I'm in my third we are.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Dog Jim, He's like ew ew ew Yeah, you's known
me a very long time. Yeah, back when I still
had a unibrow and bless his heart. Oh god, I
mean that's the case. Do you have a you know,
is it is it you like in a dream like

(56:01):
that is it you? Or is it like an avatar
that is not you? Like you don't think it's you me?

Speaker 2 (56:07):
You know?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
You know? Oh my gosh, we found this is the
name of the person who's in our dreams. Bena Drue.
Oh God love him. He's so good. So Quippi, I
would not have thought of that. Oh God, I told

(56:28):
you I was gonna ask a spicy question, and I
had to ask that. So now two just to I think,
because dreams of course allow us to go places do
things that we wouldn't have done now personally, because that's okay,
I asked you over sharing question. That's okay now. For

(56:50):
I have had a dream where it was like it
was not me, but it was a woman and it
was another woman, you know, and I'm I'm happily married,
I had my I have I am that is? That
is it? So that was one where you wake up
and you're really questioning, like, what's the interpretation here your

(57:10):
own life? You're like all of all of it? Yeah,
you're like, what just happened here?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Am I? Okay?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Am I am? I? What? Now? Granted I did grow
up around all boys, and we all did very you know,
worked on cars, went to sassy clubs, if you get
my drift. So there's that. Although no, they didn't all go.
They didn't all go. Like some of them were very
very they're good people. Not not me. I went all

(57:39):
the time. I went with them. Yeah, I'm like, yeah,
that's probably why my dreams are all over the place.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
And that's fine. Hashtag that's fine.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
So I, like I said, save the space spicy card
for last that I had to throw in a little
humor we're all adults here. This is live tin and
above tonight. So let's let's try and break down some
of these things we saw in our dreams. Now I
have I have mine dog dog eared, so we might

(58:13):
as well start there. Just you know, I think the
first one that popped out in my dream was blood.
Oh yeah, like you know, like why only like color?
Oh my gosh. Before we go on, though, here's another one.
This is what you dreams are about? But are they
to read my mind?

Speaker 3 (58:35):
I was like, but our tacos representative of something and
hot chicken representative of something?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Right, we can interpret it for your brain.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Is giving you options. That's what's happening, you know, equal opportunities.
Now I want really I want like tacos eld.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
That's what I want seconds away from my house, and
I'm like, this is not good.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
So the first book I'm grabbing is the dream book.
This one is really good about symbols. I like this
one because it doesn't have like huge descriptions. It gives
just kind of little little pieces if you need it.
So this one talks about blood within dreams being a
life force or energy and if if you are bleeding,
you are losing energy and someone is taking your energy.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Oh and that happened.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah that one. And or
you are draining yourself through worry, fear, or lack of balance. Well,
that hit that on the head for me. I don't
know about you. Oh, but you didn't see your blood,

(59:52):
you just felt.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
I just felt it. Yeah, I just.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Mine was super bright and I have I think I
have that one marked in another one too. Yeah. An
important symbol not only of life itself, but also of
the soul. Of physical strength and rejuvenation. Whether you were
cut or seriously injured. Dream in which you are losing
blood or suffer a hemorrhage may therefore refer to loss

(01:00:17):
of moral or physical strength. Oh that fit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
That fit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah. They may simply indicate a need for more emotional nourishment. Wow,
and at the time that happened, you need it also.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Nala, I just want Nala is quite literally penetrating my
soul right now. And I do not know why she's
staring at me like this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
She's like no, no, no, no, no no no no no
no no.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
No, get I can't at the door. Oh my god,
this is the only thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Oh okay, She's like, hey, I'm here for you. Your anchor's here,
You're okay? And then I remember because I read in
dreams it wasn't necessarily about the entire dream. It was
about what's stuck out and the fact that it was
bright red everything else was black and white. I thought
that was like whoa you had to go with? And

(01:01:12):
then in waking life, red is associated with fire, heat, blood,
and passion. In dreams, these hot themes are often mirrored,
and the interpretation is typically connected with passion, energy, or vitality.
So again draining out, losing vitality.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
For sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Red is also associated with anger and rage towards something
or someone. Yeah, yeah, that was happening. That was all
happening again previous people though, you know it's yeah, this
is all Yeah, that's just wild.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
What else do I have want here? Then we got
to find yours because I don't know what yours. I
don't remember what yours was. Oh in the rain, doggard rain.
If you are caught in the rain or shower or
storm in the dream, the key is to to the
interpretation will be your reaction. Did you feel miserable or
related or elated? If the former, it is possible that

(01:02:13):
an outpouring of emotion, your own or that of someone
you know, is raining down.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
On you in real life. That we're getting to that,
we're getting to the bottom of that one, because that
totally they talk about hail wasn't in my dream, but
they break down like the type hail they talk about floods.
So if you see all those things that's crazy. I
think that's all because that's really all that, you know.

(01:02:40):
I try to remember. I tried to look up like
buses and city, but that really wasn't what stuck out.
It was the crazy emotion the rain. Yeah. Oh, and
that one, just to show everybody here. The Dictionary from
A to Z another another great one. I don't think

(01:03:01):
I marked anything in this one. If because you like dreams,
this one is wild ten thousand Dreams Interpreted and Illustrated guide.
And then there's the there's the author. This one's awesome.
It's so there's all kinds of things in here, but
it's very it's almost written like Shakespeare. When you read

(01:03:22):
out some of these descriptions, you're like, what, But it's
very technical. So let's let's try and figure out what
was going on in yours, right, so you you had
I don't know if getting shot like gunfire, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Mean that one's probably like what really I guess what.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Really stood out was, I don't know, it was the
transitions of where like I was at, like what it
was doing, like the dream as a whole, not as
the pieces, right, because like when they were whoever was
running down the stairs talking about she got killed in
her dreams, she got killed in her dreams, and then

(01:04:03):
it was ending with basically me getting killed in my dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I don't know who that was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
And then it was just like we went from or
I went to like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Just a pitch black dark house with a bunch of
different rooms, and then you go to the dining and
it was very much like a normal diner. It wasn't
nothing was like really crazy with it. It wasn't like
super nineteen fifty diner. But it was just like a
modern like a Denny's. It wasn't any too. Yeah, and
then you go after you get shot.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Oh yeah, it's true though there is a lot of
there's a lot of nightmares of color. Comment came in
for the people who are listening, a lot of nightmares
and golf flooding tidal waves. Yeah, that's crazy, now I do.
I did find something in here, though, so I looked
under guns and it took me to shoot. And it's
is shocked to dream that you are shot and are

(01:05:02):
feeling the sensation of dying. You could feel the sensation. Yeah,
denotes that you are to meet unexpected abuse from the
ill feeling of friends. Yeah, I see you. You got
some friends you need to fire literally.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Enough of that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
But if you escape death, you will be fully reconciled
with them later on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
And I don't know if it's if the interpretation of
me like going to Coyote Heaven, Coyote ugly neon bar Heaven,
I don't know heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It was like I knew I was in a coyote
ugly bar.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Did you ever get to dance on the bar in
your dream?

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
And I felt like I should have, like when the
dude missed an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
If I'm almost to hear and be in Coyote Heaven,
I should have a little.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
But it was because the dude didn't give in my phone,
me and a dude was about to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Did you did you hear the sound of the gun?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I heard everything like it was. I heard it all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Hearing the sound of a gun denotes loss of employment
and bad management to proprietors of establishments. Oh, it's all
the same section, so I figured I might as well
talk so interesting. Yeah, if you are shot, you will
be in you will be annoyed by evil persons and
perhaps suffer an acute illness. My gosh, specific, my goodness.

(01:06:46):
You know you need to go get your blood and
you're ine checked. Okay, what else was in there in
this bar? I don't even know what I would look for.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Yes, it was definitely a bar, and we were it
was just I don't know who I was with. I
still like, but I just know that I was traveling
with a group of people and it was like the
same group of people that got shot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
We all went to the bar.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
I know that that is see and that's not that's
not in here bar tavern. It's definitely not a tavern.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
No, this is we was we wasking latent.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Because I know, while I'm looking, have you ever had
a chance to go to a bar like that and
do that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Oh, my gosh. No, the banks maybe has one now
that you could do that at.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
But there's pictures of me in the internet where I'm
doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Why haven't they been posted? We're ready, We're ready to see.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I'm pretty sure I'm in a black and white leopard
skirt and I'm dancing girl like, not my bra because
bras are expensive, but like the bras or hanging.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I mind it was.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
It was in Seattle somewhere. Oh diner. Oh I bet
you that's in here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Diner. We were definitely in that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Yeah. See this part, we're just trying to find something
that's dinner. Yeah, dinner, diner like whatever. You can imagine
if you're just eating dinner all the time in your dream,
I mean, that's that's not a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
And I'd be like, is this do I need to
get my weight under control? I'm confused.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Dreams telling us we're chunky.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I'm like, that's rude, not that serious, okay, yeah, like yeah,
well we had Okay, we're gonna pick out something else.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
What else is in your dream?

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
There's no way the pitch black house with Mulder different
bathrooms and it was specific that it was multiple.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Different bathrooms upstairs. There was no other rooms.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
And whoever didn't even try to see if I was
okay because I was scared of going up there because
I was like, I could feel that I didn't know
what was happening, but I was like, hmmm, something was
about to go down, girl, Something was about to go down.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
And I told the girl and she was just on
her phone. She was just like, I don't care. I
thought she was my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Ye see, change of friends. Said you're gonna I talked
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Actually, actually, maybe that was a symbol of a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
It could be oh, here we go, Here we go.
Darkness can mean that your situation is unclear or confused.
It could also suggest being in an unknown or difficult territory.
This sounds like a particular individual that may be circling
in your in your life. Don't worry, I'm not gonna
out anybody. Or it may represent a secret part of yourself.

(01:10:06):
Oh hello, my name is doctor Creep, and I will
send you with therapy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Question pil next week.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
That sure hit the nail on the head in my opinion.
I don't know about your opinion. But it's okay. He's
not in here anyway. He's a loser.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Held on, I'm looking for cell phone.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Yes, there, because my cell phone was in there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
My like my phone, but I think I think that
one though, Like our phones are like we are prized
possessions nowadays.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
They have our life in them, every phone number, location, saved, video,
you know, every everything. Oh, here we go. I've been
we've been looking so uh. Ghost talk says, a lot
of my nightmares involve flooding and tidal waves. So his
his involved title waves specifically.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
That's crazy because I've never dream that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Oh, so there is she sure it was heaven? Oh coyote, ugly,
that's what he's talking about, Like you were a heaven coyote?
Helgi I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Now, added association urgency, There we go. A cell phone
has similar associations with a telephone, but with the added
association of urgency or emergency, or fear of being left
out or not included in your close circle of friends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
H how's that?

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
If you cannot or will not answer your phone in
your dream, this suggests that people are finding it hard
to get through to you. You may also feel alone, vulnerable.
No no, no, no no, you didn't have an emergency phone call.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
No, he just took it. I don't know who it was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I had a feeling maybe he just took a phone
and he was like pouring me a drink.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
It was in line and it was poor and drinks
and they said, no, but here's a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Did the person look familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
In a way, in a way like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
I felt like I knew him, but you weren't like,
oh that's my brother, you know, like it was definitely
not family.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
It was I could tell it was definitely not family.
It was somebody that I didn't gonna lie. I did
have a little animosity towards Okay, I don't know, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Uh so another he has okay, I always has good comments.
I think he's probably think the one that's in here.
In general, a bar and a dream can represent a
need for social interaction, relaxation, or release of pent up emotions.
Also same thing we are talking about. Well, I think

(01:13:11):
I think we we got to the bottom of some
things today in my in my opinion, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Some things were figured out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yes, I I know. I was like, Okay, I have
all my books. We're gonna we're gonna work through it
the best that we can.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
We already got an episode three coming up, so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Right now I'm already Oh, I have where the whole
dream is divided. Imagine an imaginary line in every single
room that perfectly divides, and only certain things can go
on one side and certain things can go on the
other side. One side's blue and one side's red. That's
my mind. I don't understand it, but that's one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yeah, Okay, I'm ready. I am ready.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
You know, I just for being like, I am a
creative I think I am a creative person. I think
I am, but I don't feel like I am most
of the time. And then I think of these crazy dreams.
I'm like, what's something going on in there?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
You are very creative, you are.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
And I have you know, I have gotten through the books.
I think we've I've asked you all your questions. Is
there is there anything that you can think of that
you wanted to say about your dream? In addition, now
that we've interpreted, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
I think it's pretty spot on. It's pretty yeah, I
think a lot of things. Yeah, it's pretty spot on
right now with life.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
So yeah, I agree with you when you say that
your dream is not necessary. Maybe isn't necessarily about the
each little specifics. It's more about the entirety of the
journey where you where you went, what each place was,
which is wild.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
I just I'm curious if I want to have a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Dream tonight, do some dream incubation but light light what
like more like relaxation, you know, techniques and nothing too crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
You never have a spicy dream after after that. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I think certain foods bring that on. For thinking that,
but I feel like we're talking about dreams just real
briefly again, no gross details, but I think when I
eat very decadent desserts, like something I really like, I
really like, it will make my dreams not negative. They'll

(01:15:52):
be like really just wild and sometimes like wild if
you get my drift, or they're just like really like
crazy things going on. Yeah, like if I have like
tear Me sou or like strawberry shortcake like something that's
it's not like I made jello. I'm talking like like

(01:16:14):
rich yeah, yeah, your brain's like this is this is
sex for the brain that kind of like yeah, now
maybe we yeah, like my brain it's weird. But if
and if I eat strange foods, I'll have really wacky
dreams like I dreamt in comic. That's when I dreamt

(01:16:34):
in comic book strip.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
I had just like something wildest thing that I've ever heard,
because I would have that is so freaking.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Cool because I think about it. You know, the different
spices are it's like alchemy. It's you're doing different things
to your you know, I like when I forage, I
forage certain plants because they do certain things. Yeah, basically,
you know, food is just that, it's just all in
one thing, right, it's wild child. But now before we go,

(01:17:06):
I want to make sure that I talk about this
again everybody. Everything's in the comments, whoever's listening or if
you're catching the replay. Gholi Kan is going to be
this July. It's like a whole weekend thing. I don't
have something for the pub crawl because I think it
was just not something I was doing. But it's pretty
much like Thursday until Monday if you're doing something every day. Yeah,

(01:17:34):
So Gholi Kan is going to be two days. It's
a horror convention, all kinds of good things. Creepy Confidential
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I will be premiering a new character there, which I'm
very excited about and I can't wait to see everybody there. Now,

(01:17:57):
do we have what all?

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Ever?

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
You didn't talk about this earlier. Do we know what
kind of awards? I don't. I don't know much about that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
So I would say we're gonna do a little more
announcements next week. We got some art figure like some
art ordered and you know, we got some we got
some stuff spicing up. Okay, Yes, yes, I'm excited to
see to see who's there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
And I hope we get lots of pictures with everybody
because I think that we will.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Have a photographer and a black carpet and everything. So
you guys will definitely if you come, you will definitely
get your pictures and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
And everybody you'll want to come because first.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
And we're just saying we're gonna do it figure.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Which I think is the best, the best. It's like
making your own you know, talks my library lectures. Just
another yeah, thank you. So I know I've already talked
about Gholi Khan. But before we leave, is there anything
that you'd like to plug? You have the floor for
a couple of minutes if you'd.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Like, I mean, just definitely Googlikan and I know you
had the Toxic Icon on your show, which that episode
was fun like that episode.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Loved being able to talk with more Haunt actors.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Yes, so definitely if you are in a Haunt industry
and hot community, go check out the Toxic Icon because
I know I'm traveling.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
With them here soon.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
They got a lot of stuff and on their back
Arsenal can't say too much or sure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Somebody's on get mad.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Oh definitely just check them out because we got some
fun stuff coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
We do Haunt World.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Of course, and everybody make sure that you please like
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Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
But of course all of the information for Covenive Screams
and Googli Coan is in the description either of the
podcast audio podcast or here on YouTube. And I just
want to say thank you one more time much Joanna.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
It was a blast.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Okay, we don't do this again, we already we're going
to bring it back, all right, guys, thank you so much,
and we will see you next time right here on
Creepy Confidential after dark.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Bye, guys,