After Dark with Aurora & Fanni of Bad Witches Productions

Aired 6/6/2025 Creepy Confidential After Dark welcomes Bad Witches Productions! Aurora and Fanni are the hosts of the Murdered and Missing News podcast, and they are here to join me, sit for a spell, and discuss their up and coming horror film “Vessel". We'll also be discussing their real life paranormal experiences that inspired the film. www.badwitches.com Indiegogo campaign for "Vessel" https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/vessel-a-psychological-horror-film#/ Production Co: tiktok.com/@badwitchesproductions Visit www.creepyconfidential.com for more creepy content.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Subcreeps and welcome back to Creepy Confidential after Dark. I'm

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so happy to have you guys here this evening. As
you guys might know or might not know, I am Noel.
I am the Weirdo Wisconsin. I the host of Creepy Confidential. First,
I want to start by saying thank you, of course,
to all of the creep Nation tonight for tuning in,
because I have not one, but two guests that you
guys are really going to enjoy and I'm very excited

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Speaker 2 (03:00):
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Speaker 1 (03:01):
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Speaker 2 (03:19):
After dark. It is our time at Creepy Confidential to.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Kind of let down our hair a little bit, discuss
things on the fringe and for tea in but with
a guest, which always makes it fun. We like to
learn about new things and what other people are doing
out there in the world and other fellow creators, and
it gives us a chance to talk about the world
of weird but in the real world. Tonight we welcome

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Aurora and Fanny of bad witch Is Productions. They are
also involved with Murdered and Missing News podcast, but they
are the leaders of a femme led indie production company,
and that is Bad Witch's Productions. They are here tonight
to discuss and kind of spill the beans a smitch

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and to discuss their upcoming horror flick vessel. They reached
out to us. I wanted to talk about it, and
I thought, oh yeah, let's talk about the paranormal, because
you guys know I love the paranormal. So I look
forward to listening and adopt their experiences. We might find
out something new and interesting. So, as always, questions will

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be answered in the comment section, so please give us
a comment. We're going to try and highlight it and
we want you to speak up with the class. So
all right, Creeps, without further ado, onto the show.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Sub Creeps, and welcome to Creepy Confidential. Is Mothman really
a supernatural force predicting impending doom? Did Apollo eleven really
land on the moon in nineteen sixty nine? Did you
find out if that was a cult that was living
just two doors down that you wave to you every

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single day when you got your mail. If these are
the things you ponder when you should be sleeping, then
I would like to welcome you to Creepy Confidential. I'm
your host, Noel, your resident weirdo Wisconsin. I open case
files on my favorite cryptids, cults, conspiracies, and other worldly
creepy with new cases, live broadcasts, and local lore. Some

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stories have been lost with time, others are perhaps still
happening today in your local communities, right up under your
very creepy noses. So get ready, creeps, it's Creepy Confidential.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Subcreeps, Welcome to Creepy Confidentill after dark. So everybody, This
is Fanny and Aurora, Rah Gails. Thank you so much
for joining me tonight. I'm looking forward to tonight. Little introductions,

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tell us, tell us about what you do.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Sure, So, I am Aurora and I am also representing
em a mentor Crimes. I'm a podcaster in the true
crime space as well as a filmmaker and for indie film,
I work as a producer and writer. But when I'm
on set, I work in visual effects, the nerd departments
of the film world.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I love that. Very cool.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
And you christine him, Fanny, And I'm only representing by
Witch's Productions, and in our company, I'm also a producer
and I'm directing. I'm directing Wessel and when I'm on set,
I'm an assistant director.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Very cool, Very cool. Now you are like way on
the other side of the pond, Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Right? How did how did you meet in this world
of film and you know, entertainment?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Am I allowed to tell the real story? Fanny?

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
So I was in Yes, so I was. I love it.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
That's our safe word for the night I was in
Budapest for the show Jack Ryan and I was out
of the dinner with some of the cast and crew,
and there was like this thing where because we were
in another country and it's a lot of like men

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on set and such that there were always guys who
were bringing like dates to dinners with them, and so
like there had been some things where like guys have
brought like sex workers and stuff with them, and like,
you know, I'm mind my own business, like whatever everybody's
doing as long as it's consential whatever. So we're I'm
at this dinner and one of the guys on set
brought two lovely women with him, Fanny and her friend Leela,

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and like, all night I'm.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Assuming that there're sex workers.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Because like and so like I don't know anything about them.
They're at the opposite end of the table whatever. And
like at the end of the night, everyone's leaving and
like going home and they're still there, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
So, like what do you all do? And like just.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
And then Fanny's like, oh, I'm an assistant director and
I was like, oh, okay, the wrong idea here. We
met that night at dinner and Fanny so wonderful, Like
the next weekend was pride and hunger and we want
that together, and it's like we were just attached at

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the hip the rest.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Of my time and hungry.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yes, we were like instantly best friends. Like it's like
we would stay the night at each other's houses and
like whatever. We were constantly watching scary movies and too
scared to go home, staying at the other person's place yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know, you're like, oh, oh, you're like, you don't
do that.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
I always said that it's.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Healthcare, all right. She's like, yeah, no, I'm actually a
big shot. So that's fun see that story instead of like,
yeah we met at the office. No, that's way better, American,
way way better. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to tell

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my fellow uh comrades and creates that that's happened. To
catch this.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Now, you mentioned not to totally.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Run away from that subject because it's funny, but you
mentioned your Murder and Missing News podcast. Now is that
for Aurora? Is that kind of something that you always
love true crime? Or how did you how did you
choose choose that?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, you know, I think that I was always kind
of fascinated by that space as a kid, and like
so many other of us that like true crime, my
origin story started with watching Unsolved Mysteries.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
That was all in my head.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I was.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I actually just met the other night at dinner in
Palm Springs, a producer from Unsolved Mysteries. And I didn't
get to like talk to her for very long because
I kind of found that out like as everybody was leaving,
But we exchanged contact information, and I'm like, I'm going
to need all these stories.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Making I think it from the newer one or from
the older one. From the older one from the original
was not Robert Sacket's cramp. Yeah, I agree, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
And I still watched the new one because it's like
how can you not And it's like it's all music
and stuff, but.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Like nothing compares to the original.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And they're like, we did the graphics, and I was like, yeah, right, all.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
The mysteries stay unsolved.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah right, these ones will stay solved because I will
not watch it. We'll sitting over here. I'm not paying
attention to the new one because.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And that.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
But that was kind of the same for me as
I've talked about that. That was one of the first
few episodes that I wanted to do, was spontaneous human combustion.
And I learned about that from Robert Stack and it
was weird ones like because you know, sometimes they'd spice
it up and do like not just like death and crime.
It was an episode where they were talking about like
Tupac spontaneous human combustion and like some other random like

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B and E or something like that. I was meant
to watch that the.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Minute bring me back to the nineties.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
The minute that they showed like the burned couch and
then the leg with the orthopedic shoe. I was like,
that is my that's my core memory. This is why
I am the way I am.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
You know, Oh my god, I have to like go
find that episode because like Tupas murder is one of
my like can't sleep at night thinking about how it happened.
And of course now we're getting more information with Diddy's
arrest and such. But like, but that's then like one
of my top ones I want solved, right, but I didn't.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't remember seeing the human combustion one, but now
I want.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
To well not to do a plug on Preepy Confidential,
but if you listen to the episode on spontaneous human combustion,
I do say that what episode it is because I
don't remember what it is up the top of my head.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Okay, good to know, well, because.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
My research is always like way more than I probably.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
So it's that we're dealing with our Friday nights.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Like feverishly looking up as how far back did we
talk about spontaneous even combustion?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It was?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's fun I have so if anyone notice they know
that if anyone that's coming back, I don't. I have
to have notes and I always am looking at things,
so I am not avoiding these lovely ladies. This is
so that I can keep my very scatterbrain self going
where it needs to go.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
So I agree with ghost Dog did he did do it?
And I'm wondering if this is going to come out
at the trial because it's kind of like they are
focused now on his other crimes, which makes sense we
have victims coming forward, but like, are we going to
get like the you know, are we going to actually
get justice for Tupac two?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, that would be I mean, because it was kind
of like Tit for Tat. It was like one happened
and then the other. It's there's no way there's I'm
not even involved in crime, like like I don't even
really really readeep into that specific crime. But it's it's
very odd to me, it's very obvious that I think
they're all connected. Yes, any good conspiracy theorist knows that.

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Right now to speaking about paranormal because from what I
was gathering, the movie that you're working on, which we'll
talk about briefly is kind of paranormal with its roots,
and ghost Dog says that too. He got rid of
big too. So another one. Uh, are you both into
the world of paranormal? Do you follow it? Do you

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research it? Or is it?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Kind of one had the idea and the other one.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
You know, I didn't really know about paranormal.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
I deeply believe in it, but I did not have
any specific experience.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, well you just eliminated one of the questions on here.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Okay, yeah, but I I you know, it's funny because
I've always been kind of a person of science, and
so for a long time, I didn't really know how.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I felt about this world.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
And I'm not necessarily a person that's like, I don't
like believe it until it's scientifically proven, because the whole
thing with science is that it's constantly evolving, and like
we don't there's so many things we don't know in sciences,
and they like prove that or like enlighten us or
shed some light on that. It's like, I don't know
that I truly believed in ghosts until I had my
first encounter, and.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
That's in the intro of Ghost Adventures. I never believed
in ghosts until I came face to face before.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
That's a good intro.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean I know it by heart, so I can't
dog on the too bad. It's not like I don't
watch right.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
But yeah, so I'm a dabbler, you know, Like I
do believe it exists, and and I've like certainly had
experiences and like more experiences after my first one. But
I'm not like out there all the time with like
equipment and stuff trying.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
To like fully emerge myself.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, and I think it's awesome, and honestly, like I
would like if somebody like invited me to a ghost
tour right now, I would go.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Yeah see, I could not go.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
I always, like seriously deeply believed in it, and I
was always terrified even though I watched all the movies.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
But the movies are different because they're over there.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
They're enormous.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah yeah, so quick comment, ghost dook says, did he
also steals the other sock out of the dryer? And
this is why.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
A thousand percent?

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah yeah, so I guess so if you are interested
in the paranormal, so you had to have had, like
you said, there was an instance that something that made
you now go question it, or at least at a minimum,
did you have what was your first paranormal experience if
you had one.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah, my first paranormal experience was when I was living
in Austin, Texas, when I was in my early twenties.
I had just moved into a house by myself for
the first time, and I had invited my best friend
at the time from Florida to come stay with me
to help get the house set up. And during that time,

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the first night she was there, the first night we
had moved in, we go to bed for the night
and I'm woken up in the middle of the night to.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Like a boom boo boom boo boom in.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
The kitchen the cabinet door kind of like slamming, And
my instinct was that it was my very evil demon
cat Osiris, like trying to get to his food, and
that's where I put his food. So I got to
the kitchen just to kind of like show him off
the counter or like grab him and put him in
my room so he's not you know, into this chief
during the night and right, and so like I go

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out there and I don't see him, and my friend
like peaks her head out her bedroom door, and it's like,
what's going on out there? I heard something and I
was like, oh, it's just Osiris trying to get into
the cabinet, and she like opens her bedroom door wide
and shows me that the cat is fast asleep on
her bed.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
So it's like we're a little freaked out. It's like
your first experience.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
The night, and so we're like, you know, we're freaked out,
but like our logical thought is that somebody's in the house,
that somebody had broken in, So we're like grab a knife,
walking around like trying to figure out if somebody's in there. Finally,
like we have a glass of wine and like, no
one's in here. The doors are locked, the windows are shut,

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like it must have just been an old house or
something like who knows. So we go to sleep again,
and during the night I have a dream that I'm
again awoken by the sound of something happening outside of
my room and it sounds like somebody's like digging through
my boxes in the hallway. For you, Cirius, indeed, pat

(19:18):
of the world, he's oky. So in this dream I
again go to like look and see, like evaluate what's happening.
And I open my bedroom door, and like there's this
like thirteen year old kid looking through the boxes and
he can like sense that I'm there, so he picks
up an instrument case, like a big trombone case or something,

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which is not something I own, and turns around to
like hit me with it, and I duck. And when
I do that, my dog, who's like asleep in bed
with me, starts barking and runs out to the hallway
and runs right.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Through him like he's invisible. And that's the dream.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
And it's like creepy or whatever, but like I don't
only think much about it. And then the next morning,
my roommate and I wake up and she's like asking
how I sleep or whatever, and I'm like, oh, like
I had like the creepiest dream about like somebody in
our house. Again, she's like, oh my god, was it
a little kid and suspenders? And she like described like

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the exact same kid I had seen in my dream.
And we were like, Okay, that's our ghost. That's who
was in the cabinet. And from then on out, like
we figured out that like this entity did not like
it when we would leave a mess, specifically in the
kitchen and we were like moving in.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
It was messy.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
So if I'd have a house party, the cabinets would
go banging around and.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Clap like Honestly, I wish.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I had a ghost like that now because like, my
house is a disaster, and I could usually.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Motivate me, should be able to actually do the job right.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yes, you're so about these dishes you do on your
dang self.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, it's that's wild though for your very first because
usually it's like your first one is like mine. Mine
was a voice that I caught on an EVP, but
it was like trying to just start my research journey.
I woul didn't even think I was going to get anything,

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and that was so it's wild. I like hearing other
people's stories. Have you ever had a paranormal experience, Kenny?

Speaker 5 (21:32):
So now remember that I had, but I'm still not
sure if it was paranormal or not. It was just
so creepy because with my ex boyfriend, like eight years
ago or something, nothing happened since then, and they were
both sitting on the bed and at some point I
heard that someone is running towards the bed and it.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
Wasn't just me.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
I thought I'm crazy, but then I looked at him
and I.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Was like, have you seen that too? I feel like
have you seen that too?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:03):
See, but like felt that someone is running towards us.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
It was it was crazy, but like.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
No common experience people have though, Like I heard like
footsteps in a haunted space before, and like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
But I also even though the like the footsteps that
I've experienced, So I've I've been a paranormal investigator for
seventeen years, I've been a researcher for twenty, so I have,
you know, I'd say I have a good enough amount
of times that I've heard or seen things or I
can kind of start to categorize things a little bit.
I'm no pro, but there's different kinds I feel. There's

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like past you can hear, like we've heard footsteps on
a set of like wooden steps behind us that were
coming up, but it sounded like it was just repetitious.
But when you get footsteps that are coming at you,
that's a little different. I think it also affects you
a little differently.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Actually, and that thing what you us and I think
the next day, like both of us saw a shadow
besting by the door, and I texted my mom because
we were living together at the time, and I was
texting and I was like, what are you doing down here?
And she was like, I'm in bed. And then we're like,

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who wasn't done?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
It's not funny.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
Yeah, it's not funny, Mom, do this. I agree that.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
For a couple of minutes, I was like, I don't
think I'm able to exit.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So, speaking of ghosts in houses, ghostalk says, I have
three rules for ghosts in our house. For people who
are listening to this later, uh, it's in our house.
Don't wear my underwear, don't eat the food, and don't
break stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
And I can agree, don't sound solid.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I also think like, if you're gonna freaking wine about
the dishes, do them yourself.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
And the rule stay invisible at me bro Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
And I've and that's in our house.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
We've had a couple of things, kind of weird, things
like the cat staring at a particular spot in the
ceiling or something like that. Then and and I've heard
it come out of my hubby's mouth, was like, well,
maybe we should get the equipment. I'm like, no, no,
we shouldn't, because then we know.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
And it's in our house. It's different not in the house.
It's one of those kinds of things in the space
that you're in and like have to.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
But I have I have had where I was sleeping up.
My hobby was gone on a motorcycle thing and I
was sleeping in bed, pets around me, and in the corner,
just a quick in the corner, so there's a there's
a bathroom. The door's always closed, and I turned the
lights off. I always have to have a nightlight on
because you know, I'm still sick at heart. And I
saw this outline of a shadow of a man who

(24:57):
was definitely a man standing in that in front took
that he's not he's not backlit, so there's no way
that I that anything could have been in front of him.
And it's one of those where like you look and
you're like like what is that?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
And I look and the pets are staring in the corner.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
My dog is sitting next and the cat is watching,
and I was like, I turned the If I turned
the lights on and somebody's there, they're gonna get the
pupews because I'm gonna I'm not gonna mess around.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Like that was like when it's time to just like
burn it.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Down, So I had I turned all the lights on
all the way down the hallway and in the bedroom,
and I slept like it was like this in the bedroom,
the way that you see it in here. I was like,
I'm not turning the lights off. I was like, so
a little bit of paranormal here and there. That's good though,

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I think I.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Think it it keeps you.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Honest to know that there is something going on beyond
just us walking around in our normal meat suits, Like
there's something else that we have.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Absolutely no, no real knowledge about.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
You think we have that, but we don't. So let's
talk about vessels. So I feel like we've kind of
warmed up to this potential. You know what we're going
to learn about here, So with this, can you please
kind of give us the preface of vessel. We understand
you probably want to keep some information behind your cards,
but can you tell us what the what the movie
is going to be about?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
So it's about a woman who goes on a ghost tour,
ends up having a spear entity attached itself to her,
and after a series of unexplained events, she becomes convinced
that this is what's happened, that she's being haunted and
desperate for answers, She seeks the help of a psychic,

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only to find out the situation is far more dangerous
than she ever imagined.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And then things escalate.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Of course they always escalate. It can't be like the
end right, figured it out done?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You know?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, I get I get that.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
So I was I was like, oh, so because I
have what's what's my stance?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
So psychics. I feel that psychics are. They do exist,
but I think to day's day and age, it's like
it's less than one percent of what it really is.
So I always worry, you know, I'm like, oh, people
say they go to psychics about for paranormal stuff. I'm like,
they're going to put you in the wrong direction, right,
that's my personal take on that. Uh.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Then I was because I've been scoping on.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
The TikTok as the old granny says the TikTok, and
I heard you say something about now your cat was
a ghost? Now is that what you were talking about? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
So that was my Yeah, that's my like my cat
ghost story that I thought my what I thought the
ghost was my cat, I guess.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
And the cat might be a ghost, right right? As
like as a cat mom and a paranormal person. I
was like, what, Yeah, I do think I.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Had like one of my houses in Austin though, I
think I had a little ghost cat. Like I would
always see this cat outside and I would like, oh cat,
and then I would like look and it was not there.
And so either it was like a very fast cat
that seemed friendly and then would disappear, or there was
like a ghost cat that lived at my house.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Right, we already have a zoo here and there's an
automatic feeder. They can come get some grub. You know,
they're right right.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Eat? How can I attract them?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
As we're like, no the in it's full three cats
is enough? Now me too, I have I said, if
anybody sees a cat throughout there, they come up and down.
So there's actually in the window. Oh I wish I
could show you because she's out. You said you want

(29:12):
to see a cat, but she's already sleeping. Sorry squirrel. Anyway,
So when you're talking about ghosts and we're talking about Vessel,
was there a specific incident that inspired that story of
Vessel or was that like there was Okay.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, it's based on a true story and it's based
on like the time that I had some entity attached
itself to me. And basically what had happened. I see
six to one four area code, and I'm from Columbus.
And during the yeah, and so during the film Strikes,

(29:52):
a couple of years ago, I had actually gone back
to Columbus to stay with my family for a.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Bit, just to visit with my parents.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
My mom allegedly was dealing with an illness, but you
just never know with that woman what was really going
on there. But so I had gone to like seeing
my mom, who has a lot of mental health issues,
and like three days into the visit, we have this
like enormous fight and she kicks me out and it's
just like big chaotic drama and it's like it's very her,

(30:21):
and it's like it's it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
She's been like that my entire life. So I decided
to like, you know, yeah, right, like you with her.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, And so I had decided to stick around Columbus
a bit because my sister has three s four kids
that are like nearing like adulthood, like a couple of
them in the early twenties, a couple of them in
high school. And so I was like oh, you know,
like I've been traveling for film, Like I was living
in Europe for six years, like whatever, so long I

(30:51):
haven't seen I haven't had family time in a while.
So like my husband and I decided to stick around.
And I'm going through this hard time, you know, like
I'm my mom's not talking to me. I am just
getting into like the beginning of the film strikes, which
I've totally like destroyed the film community, and it's like
all these people who had great jobs and we're working
artists for so long, or losing their homes and cars

(31:13):
and like can't feed their kids, and it's just like
chaos and we're not sure what's going to happen next.
So while I'm hanging out with my nibbling, which is
the term for a non binary niece nephew, Clay, we
decided to make our own impromptu ghost tour because Clay
is also spooky like their aunt. And it's like we

(31:34):
just do some research on like the allegedly like the
most haunted places in Columbus, and we made that list
and then kind of put them on a map and
decided to go around to them. And we went to
the Kelton House, which is one of it's supposed to
be one of the most haunted places, and there's different
spirits that allegedly lived there, from like a kid who

(31:54):
fell out of a window, to like a soldier who
came home to war, to the Celton family who a
lot of them had passed away in the house just
because it's an old house and people used to not
go to hospitals but die at home. And we had
gone during April, so it's not like ghost tour season
and we want on just a regular tour, and the

(32:15):
host of our tour was like not super into talking
about like the ghost elements and my nibbling and I
are like, oh, like you were seeing a ghosts around
here and like anything you can get, and like she's
kind of blowing us off, and she's like, oh, like
occasionally like a light flickers, are we smell a cigarette

(32:36):
smoke and we know that's Grace, like one of the women,
the last woman who actually lived in the house, who
passed away there in the seventies. And so the tour ends,
we're kind of looking around. They let you walk around
the house a bit, and Clay and I were looking
into this cabinet where Grace kept her fancy China and
while we're looking in there, we're like cameras out, we're

(32:57):
gonna we're going to like a ghost talk.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
And the door slam shut, and.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
So Clay and I both look at each other and
just think it's silly, and we're like grace and don't
think yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's like we go on with our day and like we.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Go out to the car and it's you know, April
in Columbus, so it's beautiful during the morning, and then
it's suddenly like cold and rainy. So we get in
my jeep and I'm like pushing the button to turn
up the heat, like pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing, and nothing's happening,
and it's like a new jeep, so I'm like, what
the hell, And like all of a sudden just shoots
up to like twenty degrees like in a second, and

(33:34):
again Clay and I are like grace and like I
think it's all fun and gazing.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh no, though, because that's you know, like all the signs.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, electrical disturbances are like you know, first thing. So
so like I kind of like go on, you know
with life as normal, being depressed and like whatever like
in this weird state I'm in and I'm not like
sleeping during this time, and I usually good sleeper, Like
I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night,

(34:03):
but I always fall asleep like right when I'm ready to,
like I can I.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Can see you where.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's a special skill souf I have. I'm very tired
of it.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
A lot of money for that, like.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Right, so, like I'm having a hard time falling asleep,
and then when I do fall asleep, it's like there's
this orange light in my subconscious And normally when I sleep,
and I've never thought about it, but like when I sleep,
it just lights up black. Like sleep feels like blackness
to me, like maybe I have some dreams, but like

(34:33):
I wake up and it feels like I'm emerging from blackness.
But during this period it was orange, and like because
of that, it was making it hard to stay asleep
because it's literally like there's like a light on in
my mind and I'm staying at this like old warehouse
that's been converted, and it's like we are in an
interior room where there's no windows. I'm sleeping with an

(34:53):
eyemask on. It's like there's no light or anything on
the room. It's like clearly coming like internally, which is weird.
And also at this time, my dog like starts waking
up and growling at me in my sleep and he'd
never ever done that before in his life. And he's
also like younger and healthy, So I'm like, this is weird.

(35:14):
Does he have to go potty? Like what's going on?
So I get up, like take him for a walk,
and he's kind of like piddling around.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
He peas a couple of times. It's clearly not urgent.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
So like we go in to go back to bed,
and like he won't sleep with me, and like after
that night, he wouldn't sleep next to me for like
until this was kind of done, Like he would go
to sleep in the closet like he was trying to
get away from me, and so I'm like, yeah, like
he was like breaked out. But like also when I
was sleeping, which like there you would kind of think

(35:45):
that if something's like kind of taking over your subconscious
or whatever when you are unconscious when you're sleeping, that
that's when he could maybe since its presence the most too.
So he's freaked out, like he doesn't want to be
around me. Specifically when I'm sleeping, and then like the
nail on the coffin for me was I want to
get my nails done, and I'm like getting the kind

(36:07):
of manicure like a jel one where you like put
your hand in the lamp and it like here's it.
And I like go to put my hand under the
lamp and the light turns off, and so like the
nail tack's like pushing the button, it keeps turning off.
She's like, oh, it must be broken. She gets like
another lamp, I put my hand in the light goes
off again. So like the lady next to her, the

(36:27):
other nail tack is like, oh, like let me see,
and like she uses it with her client just fine.
So jokingly, I'm like, oh my god, I think I'm
being haunted and and so like my tack broken right,
and it's like I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
It like joking, but like help me. I think I'm
being haunted, like something like.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Something like is off and I know it, but like
I'm also not like a big ghost person, but I'm
like this is getting.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Weird, Like I don't know what's happening. And so my
nail tack looks at me like without missing a beat,
and she's like, no, I think you are.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
And so like she's telling me that she's like a
bit clair buoyant, and she's like, something is like completely
different about your energy. She's like, I've like I like
picked up on something like as soon as you walked in.
And then like she goes on to tell me about
how when she was a kid, her dad had been
going through kind of this like tough period where he
had lost his job and they found out that like

(37:22):
he had a spirit attached itself to him, which is
not something I knew could happen, and that like a
medium had come over, like they took a picture and
they were like orbs in the picture and they could
see the face of the person like haunting him, and
they did like a thing to get rid of it.
And so like she was the first person who told
me that this was even something that could exist. So
like I go home and go find all of those

(37:43):
TikTok mediums that may or may not be real, and
like she looking up.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
I stand by what I said, but that's to say, yeah,
out there, you know, right.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
And like it makes sense that like real or fake,
that they're making videos about spirit attachments because now I
do think this is like a very real thing that
can happen, and like I just assume that like entities
would like stay in a space like.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I had never given it any thought.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
And so from there, you know, like I read about
like how if you're like in kind of like a dark,
vulnerable place like I was, you're more likely to have
a spirit attached itself to you because like energies match energy,
so like if you're depressed, that ghost might have been depressed, scared, angry,
whatever before they died, and like that energy just feels comfortable,

(38:33):
like it feels like what they're going through. It's like
they just kind of like like I don't even mean
to like you're like a magnet.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
And there is something to that. Yeah, I think there
is something to ye, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
So so that's what you know, that was like the
encounter and then I'll kind of leave off there because
it got pretty crazy, and that's where the movie picks up.
It picks up right after the ghost tour when they
got worse.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah they always do, which is it's kind of a
pain in the butt that that happens. But there's but
with that, it's okay when it comes to things in
the paranormal. I think when you're if you're being affected,
you you know, it's like you don't you don't. They're

(39:23):
almost like stuck in it. It doesn't you can't just
shake it off. You can't just make it go away.
And I remember, I didn't really figure it out for
someone like myself. Now, like I mentioned, I have a
very different I'm very scientific. I have a different opinion
about a lot of pseudo scientific things. But being somebody
who did so many paranormal investigations, I started having horrific

(39:45):
dreams over and over and over again. And I and
I am if anybody you can ask anybody, I'm I'm
a happy, go lucky person. Do I have mental health problems?
For sure? Most of us do nowadays. And it's a
matter of it got really bad all of a sudden,
and I had to stop because I have a feeling
because and I was going through a very tumultuous time

(40:06):
in my life. I was not with who I'm with
right now, and it was bad. And I think that
that state made it perfect for that to start happening, right,
you know, one way or another, however you look at
things it's hard to deny it when it's happened to you.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Absolutely, Now going on ghost tours like going with a
good state of mind.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, don't don't go at all.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
Actually it can happen.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
You won't go on a ghost you won't go.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
Maybe I should. I should have a couple of dreams
before or after.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I would, because then it's like you're like a little
you're not paying attention.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah, but it's there are a lot of people that do.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
They're fine with paranormal movies, they're fine with paranormal books,
and it's that's fine, but when it becomes reality, it's very,
very different.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
I would be terrified. I definitely could not stay in
a haunted house. Never never, I'd better sleep on the street.
I swear.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Seriously, I could not. So we have a question about
the movie. One of our says, where can I see
this movie? Now? Vessel is about to start filming.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Correct, Yeah, we're about to start filming in August in
Joshua Tree, where I'm currently living, and we it's a short,
so the editing process and stuff will not be the
same as a feature link, which would take about a year.
This will be a couple like a month or so turnover.
So we're actually hoping to release it around Halloween is

(41:57):
our goal. We're going to rely to push ourselves. I'm
going to be doing the editing, but but we hope
to have this available to everyone around Halloween.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Cool. I love that. You gotta get it. That's when
the seasons hate. Yeah, I love that. So I have Oh,
we've already already covered those, all right, So for those
who've been watching, you know that I have my creep cards,
and these are where we go off the like Lottie
doc questions, and I start asking things less about like

(42:26):
the movie and this and more about the nitty gritty
of what we like and what we want to know.
So some of them you've already answered. So we'll we'll
see how those go. Uh, the first first one, I
think what was We'll come right back to that one. Yeah,
because you just mentioned this one. If you could investigate
a famous haunted site, i e. Waverley Hills Asylum, you

(42:49):
know here in the States or Amityville. I'm not familiar
with the locations where you are. Unfortunately, would you would
you investigate a plamous place like that?

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Never? I said no, I'm not going to know that
I'm no, I'm not looking for trouble.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
No trouble here, what about you? Oh, I definitely would.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
And like I've been on some ghost tours and then
gaunt intentionally haunted places, but one I've been looking forward
to going to my entire life is the am I
getting the name of this town, right, the Balliska axe
house murder house?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, like that.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
One, Like that's one of the true crimes that like
really has stuck with me my entire life. Like I
saw an episode of some kind of true crime show
when I was a kid, yeah about like about like
the family being killed in their sleeps by by somebody
hiding in the attic with an axe, and it's like
I was so scared. It's it's like worse than a

(43:54):
home invasion movie. Right, It's like this place where you're
supposed to be safe, but now it's like nobody even
like entered it, Like they're in it, Like they're already
there in the attic waiting for you, and.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
You're sleeping in there right above you, you know, and
when they were sleeping too. Like it's just like the
most one of.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
The most messed up true crimes I've ever heard, and
the house is supposed to be so haunted, and I
know they do ghost tours and stuff like. That's the
place that like, since my childhood, I've been like, I
want to go there because.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I want to love it. So some of these places
do an overnight and it's related to this comment. If
that's the case, would you do an overnight investigation and
sleep there, not be up all night? No? Would you sleep?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I couldn't sleep anywhere.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
We have to be very brave to do that, and I.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Think that's very very Oh here, I'm going to highlight.
I'm gonna highlight your comment. It looks like we do
have one about the inspiration. I'm going to come back
to that because we're working through our creep cards. So
have you ever been on a formal paranormal investigation like

(45:16):
equipment gear go in you're looking for evidence.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
I've been on sort of like an like kind of
like official when I was just in Montana for nineteen
twenty three and we shot in Butte, Montana for a
couple of months. And one of the guys that worked
in the office, he was from View and he's very
into ghost investigations and he had organized a visit for

(45:43):
our film crew anybody who wanted to go right around
Halloween to this hospital that's in Butte that's very allegedly
like very haunted, and so he had you know, I
don't know the name of the equipment, but he had
all the like radio things and things that made noise
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And it brought along and people.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Like carrying them around, and like there was definitely you know,
it seemed like there was like activity, like they were like,
you know, the devices were kind of freaking out. But
the only experience I had in that space, so we
had gone into this one room and it's a hospital,
so it's a lot of like tiny rooms and it's
this very dilapidated buildings. Like you're being careful because like

(46:22):
there's pieces of the floor missing, and you know, like
it's like actually a pretty dangerous environment. And yeah, it's
like film cruise, like we'll do literally anything like they
do not.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
But like we had gone into this one room and.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Like as soon as we walked in, I got like
an instant headache, Like I just felt like this like
oppressive like.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Feeling like on my skull, and.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
So like they were talking to the device and yeah,
and it was like kind of like reacting, but like
for some reason, somebody was like, oh, like I think
it wants to talk to the girls. It was me
and like two of the girls, and they're like, like,
should we like leave, so like maybe it'll be more
like active if we leave the girls alone. And like

(47:08):
as soon as he said it, like just showing up
my spine and I looked at him.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I was like, if you leave me, or I will.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
Stab you, like.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
There were like something in there, and like I was like,
that's exactly what it wants.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
And I was like I know, no, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Like I got like this like horrible like feeling like
in my stomach, and I was like I will not
be left alone in here for like a second. And
I have not like had that kind of viscile reaction
to like a haunting before.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Like it really freaked me out.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, yeah, I see. I don't know. Part of me
is like I love it when that happens, and the
other part of me is like, get me out of
this room right now.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I had to get out I.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
About it.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, she's like write me a letter. I don't want
to know.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
I love to hear about it, but yeah, experiencing it and.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
We did get a question before I have these other ones.
I didn't want to lose it. So Greg, guess, have
any specific films helped inspire your short vessel?

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
So I can think of one.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
And you know, like this is like very much so
like a real story and part of what I had
struggled with how to tell it. Like I was talking
to a producer right after it happened and he's like,
you have to make this into a movie, Like that's
so good. Like one of our friends was trying to
like ask what happened and or like was like interrupting
my story and he's like, Aurora is talking, like I
have to hear this. Stop, Like you have to make

(48:32):
this into a movie to be a right, And so
I've known I wanted to do that for years, and
during the strikes, I was kind of trying to like
figure out how I.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Would break it down.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
And when Fanny and I decided that we wanted to
start off our first movie for Bad Witches being a short,
for a lot of reasons, it's cheaper, Like we're both
experienced filmmakers, but we've never made one ourselves from start
to finish, So like, yeah, you don't want to just
like jump in with like a ten million dollar budget
as if anybody would give it to you.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
And I kind of see what happened, so we wanted.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
To not know how to properly move along the thing. Yeah,
I totally get it.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Yeah Yeah, it's like we're, you know, trying to line
up like connections with investors and stuff through this. It's
basically like a very expensive business card that will be
a beautiful work of art though, like it's going to
be gorgeous. Our actor we just cast as brilliant whatever.
But so anyways, I was like trying to figure out
how we take a slice of it and fit it
into ten minutes, because you know, are we going to

(49:28):
go to the ghost house? Are we going to like
be an Aurora's mind? Like afterwards, and I had watched
this really wonderful short that was the predecessor to the
movie Smile, and it's how Smile got it's funding.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
And I can't remember what it's called. The names unusual.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
It's like Jane hasn't slept or someone hasn't slept, and
it's about the girl that's actually the first girl to
die and Smile this is her story and she it
was really good and it's like, when you're making a movie,
we want to have as like as few locations as
possible and as few cast as possible unless you have
a huge budget. And what this movie did that handled

(50:07):
kind of like our problem in a really clever way,
was that it was two people. It was a girl
and a therapist, and she goes to the therapist because
she hasn't been sleeping. And I don't want to like
spoil it by yeah, I don't want to, like because
like y'all should go find it.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I think it's like on YouTube or Laura hasn't slept.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Yes, and it's really good and and like you can
see how Smile took shape from that. But they debuted
that actually at south By Southwest Film Festival in Austin,
where I'm like kind of sort of like my second
place I'm from, and and somebody at Paramount saw that
and loved it and gave them the money to make Smile,
which is I think a wonderful horror movie. It's one

(50:50):
of my favorites to come out in the past ten years. Yeah,
it's so scary, But that.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Kind of is Eppel with Jack's son Jack Nick Jack
Jack Nicholson, Jack Nicholas.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
No, you know, the therapist is like an older guy.
And then in Smile, Oh, you know, I don't all.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
The guy that's in it is. I think it's the
guy from Ronica Mars. Oh yeah, it's what's his name,
Kyle Gayner Olmer. Yeah, he's in it. And then so
Sossy Bacon, who's Kevin Bacon's daughter. And I actually might
get to work on a movie with Socy Bacon soon,

(51:35):
which I'm very excited about because I love Smile and
I think she's great. But a producer I'm working with
is like trying to get a horror movie made with
Socy Bacon. So maybe we can come back and talk
about that if it ends up getting made out here
in the desert. But Jack Nicholson Son isn't Smile too.
I saw a Smile too. Who is he in Smile Too?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah? Greg seems Greg's on it.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Greg, Greg knows, Greg knows horror.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Do you got do you got?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Do you guys know?

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Greg? I'm like, he's not Greg?

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Okay, what?

Speaker 6 (52:10):
I love the name Greg.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Some day I want to that's for sure. I don't,
because you know, we have to be nice. These are
the old ones.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
Okay, looks good for you.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Okay, so now you said, now you mentioned you did
have a paranormal experience, So Fanny, where you were talking
about somebody like walking at you, this one wasn't one
of the last paranormal questions. What was your most profound
personal paranormal experience that still sticks with you today? It
was you guys have had a little bit. Yeah, okay,

(52:52):
it was.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
This one because I did not really have much so
I mean that time it was the shadow and like
running towards the bad but I think it was that's it.
After after that, it just it was just gone.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
So well, yeah, that's a pretty profound thing to experience,
to not just like oh I think I heard something
and you turn and there's nothing there. Actually hear something
and see something else.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
Yeah, you can feel it sometimes. That's like do you
have that feeling sometimes that like there's someone behind you?

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Oh? Absolutely, I think that our meat suits are equipped
with our spider.

Speaker 6 (53:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It's like I'm not I know. At this point, she's
starting to see things. By the way, for those who
are who are listening in on the audio version later too,
is she is literally across the globe. It is you
said it's almost four am.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
No, it's two two, Oh my god, almost which are yeap? Oh?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Here you go? You got a question or you got
a question? You got a comment about that one. So
it says about Jack Nicholson's son. He plays the character
Paul Hudson, who is Sky's boyfriend. There is a scene
where he is smiling creepily at the actress in a
crowd while she's yeah, it's crazy. I remember when I
saw now. I actually don't watch a lot of crazy

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horror movies just because my brain doesn't do well with him.
And and I remember watching that scene and I was like, oh,
my gosh, he has his daddy's smile. That like that.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Now I have to rewatch it because like Jack Nicholson
has obviously the shining smile. And I don't know I
as his son, I'm gonna have to rewatch it.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Oh yeah, it looks just like just like him.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
He's I think his son is a little more dapper
than Jack in his younger days. Sorry Jack, but yeah,
I was like, Oh, he's got his daddy's evil, scary
Lynn's devilish grin.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I like to I like to sit in like the
witches of these Wakes.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Oh my god, he did so great with that where
he played the devil. Please tell me you both have
seen which.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Is you know, I haven't seen it since I was
a kid because we used to watch things like that
when I was a kid because my parents were terrible parents.
But like, I do want to rewatch that as an adult.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
I don't think i've seen that.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
It's you officially have Home Worn. Open him up, Michelle
Pfeifer and Jack Nicholson. You can knock go along. It's fantastic.
So these are not ghosts related. So cryptids, I know
are are something that are internationally known, the little mystical creatures.

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Do you have a favorite cryptid? You know, such as
Mothman or Nessy you know across the Pond they have
the monster. Do you have your favorite cryptid?

Speaker 6 (55:52):
You know?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
I always loved Mockman for that REALMD butt of his
featured on statue.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
What a good looking cryptid.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
It's weird because I was like, why did this artist
look at cakes.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Like he always does?

Speaker 6 (56:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I love mob Man, He's amongst my favorite.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
But I love like kind of you know, I like
like going to like a new town and looking up
theres because there's like a there's a frog man in
Ohio that I learned about when I like, yeah, like
some like history museum. And then Fanny and I's right,

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oh you, oh my god. I love him first of all,
like I love a frog I love frog Man. But
then also like Annie and I were just like looking
up like ghosts stuff arounds, like I'm currently in Joshua
Tree area and there's a guy or like a cryptid
named Yucca Man and he's kind of like a desert sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
There's that there's so many versions of sasquatd across the
across the world. Every single continent on the planet has
a version or versions of sasquatch. It's insane.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
They've gotta be real.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
You can't convince the same thing. Can't convince me. Now
we have ghost Dog Team Offman Yepman, and then we
got we got Dan, the whole dag that's Wisconsin cryptid
h inside story. This person Dan, he's my cousin.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
Have you heard have you heard about the Leprechaun.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Which the ones overseas or or something.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
I think it's in Ireland. Yeah, I did.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
It was a whole.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Episode on really interested. I just started to you now
have two things that are homework.

Speaker 6 (57:53):
Yeah, episodes for sure.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Is there like a hungarian cryptid?

Speaker 6 (58:00):
No, I don't know about him.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Oh, I don't think so there has to be I
have to I will find that better.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
So there's a cryptid everywhere. Every single place has some
form of or mystical creatures. Ghost dog, this is another.
This is my hobby. The other one is my cousin.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
And this is my hobby.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Ghost dog. He's he's got a squat and thrust to launch,
so he's got yams.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Whatever, whatever workout he's doing. I would like to know.
And if you're listening, we would like to know.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
You give us your routine. We want to know. So
this one hopping over because remember here creepy confidential. I
do cryptids, cults, conspiracies and other worldly creepy so I
cover everything. Now this one is about UFOs. Have you
ever seen a UFO or alien or and experienced being abducted?

Speaker 4 (58:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
But now I kind of want to be.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
And she's like, I do believe they exist.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Oh, I definitely believe.

Speaker 6 (59:07):
There's no way that us in this universe. There's no way.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
I think so many people it's like, how naive are.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
You to think that the humanoid and you know, regular
animals are all that exist for sure?

Speaker 2 (59:21):
That would be so sad. Also, like another like really
big part about like the.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Culture here in Joshua Tree, Like there's a lot of
weird stuff that happens out in the desert, I guess
like in general.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
But specifically there there's a lot of stuff there.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Yeah, there's like a lot of like there's a lot
of famous UFO sightings here and then there's like a
place that's famous for it that starts with like a
te that trends something something like.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I know what you're what you're talking about, but I
have a horrible memory, which is why I have to
have things in front of me. But I know exactly,
I do know what you're talking about. Yeah, there's a
whole there's a really cool book for those that are
because I always have to talked about books. It's called
hot Spots. It's like alien hot spots. I'll put it
out there. I'll put it in the comments of this
next one, because I think they talk about all kinds

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of cool places in the States that you can go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
So okay, you have to say this for us. You
have to pronounce that so we can.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
I'll say it right, Not the Hungarian word.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
That's not a Hungarian word. It looks like.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Yeah, it looks like German. It's it's not Hungarian. No
one can say. I don't know how to say it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
That's what you're speaking of the language.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, Hungarian.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Devil. So the trap knocked crop whatever. That is a
South German and Austrian book creature cautionary tales about which
are used to scare children to go to bit.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
Oh but it's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Not Hungarian love scaring children.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
They're Australian or Austrian, not Australian.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Here pronunciation. We'll do this live and I'll put it
up to my little microphone. How to pronounce yeah. But
sometimes these all auto pronouncers don't really know either. That
is not how you say it. Hold on, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
That crap, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
How we.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Come on. I don't feel so bad for how I
sat I said it done, because that's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Come on, that's not real.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
We have to find we have to find you a
Hungarian crypto because I know we have to.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
We have to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
But I have to have like color one like there
are creatures they do believe in, but there's not like
a specific one. I think, oh yeah, we got another one,
because there's like devil dragons. Yeah, I don't believe someone
does not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Can you say that is that real?

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
That's devil?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
There's doubling Hungarian?

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Yeah, now I know if I get that call and
you'd be like, is this what is this? That's not
even a Hungarian?

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Find one please, because I'm very curious.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
I mean, Hungarians are creepy, I think crazy, but hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
But I feel like that part of the world is
so much like deeper in its cultures, and like the
United States is like, yeah, we're we got culture, but
we were we have so much stuff that happened way later.
Like that part of the world is it's old and
it's had people on it for ever where. And here

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it's like, that's why all of our buildings are so good,
because they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Have not nearly haunted enough.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
No, we need spookier, we need more speaker old ghosts. Yeah, yeah,
well that's a real thing. The Victorian ghost phenomenon. That's
actually a real thing. That why are all the ghosts,
you know, in Victorian clothing and not in nikes and
you know shoes, So there's a whole bunch of them here.

(01:03:36):
See this is why mister Creep and I. He knows
how to look up things. He's always helping me. I'm like,
I need a cryptid that looks like X y Z
and he'll find it amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Oh well, I have. So we've made it through the
creep carts I have. We've talked about cryptids. We've even
had people in our comments section. Is there anything that
you would like to make sure you get out to
the Creek Nation while we chat?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yes, this is very important.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
If nobody donates to our Indiegogo, this movie will not
get made and you'll never know what happened to me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
You'll never find the end of this where.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
But no, truly, we do have an Indiego Go campaign
that is live right now and hopefully when you listen
back to this weekend have that end.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
The show notes. It's also on our social.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Media for Bad Witch's productions, or if you just look
up Indiegogo vessel, it'll pop up. We have some really
awesome perks, so it's not just like you're donating to
like a typical go fund me, Like these are some
pretty cool perks. Like there's like low key things like
you can get a credit in IMDb, which is still
cool to have your name on IMDb for a movie.

(01:04:59):
Then there's really someone's like we're actually casting a ghost
for our movie, and for two hundred dollars you can
play a ghost in the movie and you get a
speaking line and an IMBB credit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Oh my gosh, well that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Wait, you're right, and like we're gonna have like this right,
and like we have a very good special effects autographic
with Cyrus from.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
The Dead with us is ghost baw, Oh my god,
I love that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
But you know other parts that include things like digital Yeah,
that was my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I'm trying to see if I put it in the
notes and I've already forgotten no worries.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
But but we have other things like a digital download
signed copy of the script.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
There's also like a PA.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Opportunity, and this is like a very special PA opportunity,
so we won't have you doing things like running to
get coffee and things like a typical PA would be doing.
We have a really talented crew, so we'll make sure
like whatever you want to learn about in film, I
will personally match you up with that person to intern
with them. For example, we have we have Emmy winning

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visual effects artist and supervisor Rick Sander, who just won
an Emmy for Percy Jackson, who will be on set,
so if you're curious about visual effects, I can pair
you with him. Our DP is like mega talented and
she does like all of Lady Gaga's music videos, so
you can like pair up with her and learn about
Lady Gaga. So there's some really good perks. The ghost

(01:06:32):
one we haven't I actually need to add that today,
like we just pinned that down, but I'll have that
added later today. But there's lots of really cool ones left.
And you'll be helping women filmmakers make this really cool
movie by buying some of those perks. So we would
be very appreciative if you all took the time to
take a look at that or share it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Yeah, and that and they're The Indiegogo link is already
in the show notes here, so if you're watching on YouTube,
you just scroll a little bit and it's right there.
And Bad Witch's production there. The website for them is
also down there, so I wanted to make sure that
they didn't have to like go anyplace else. It's down
below wherever you're watching this. And that will also be

(01:07:13):
when this becomes an audio because as you guys know
these listening this becomes an audio podcast, it will also
be in that show notes. Once that goes live, it'll
be a little while that will go up. So I
try and make sure everything's where it needs me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
You appreciate that so much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
And Fanny, do you have any notes anything you'd like
to say before we close?

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
She said no, I would say so, no extra notes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
No extra notes. I love that. Well, I really truly
thank you for coming on. I always have fun asking
some questions to my guests and enjoying a good old
paranormal cryptid ufo chat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
So if anything that that's always a good time.

Speaker 6 (01:07:58):
Always all right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Well, and I think we have come to all of
the end of our questions, end of our notes. I
want to thank you everybody who's watching again for tuning
in to the Creepy Confidential after Dark. And Fanny, thank
you for coming.

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
Aurora, thank you for coming.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Not a problem. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Girls.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Girls, Yeah, and just hang out. Well, we'll take you
guys out here in just a second.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
I'm going to find it perfect, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Stay creepy folks. We'll see you next time right here,
creepy bye bye