After Dark with Girls Investigating Ghosts and the Supernatural

Girls Investigating Ghosts and the Supernatural really loved what we did and we haven't forgotten where we came from. Join Mrs Creep aka Noelle and Kim as we showcase some of our evidence, talk shop about locations, methods, and how we got started. You also will want to catch our Halloween special we filmed back in 09' where we made our very our horror movie short.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:22):
S s, sub creeps, and welcome to Creepy Confidential. Is

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Mothman really a supernatural force predicting impending doom? Did Apollo
eleven really land on the moon in nineteen sixty nine?
Did you find out if that was a cult that
was living just two doors down that you waved to
every single day when you got your mail.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
If these are the.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Things you ponder when you should be sleeping, then I
would like to welcome you to Creepy Confidential. I'm your host, Noel.
You're resident Weirdo wisconsinin I open case files on my
favorite cryptids, cults, conspiracies, and other worldly creepy with new cases,
live broadcasts, and local lore. Some stories have been lost

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with time, others are perhaps still happening today in your
local communities, right up under your very creepy noses. So
get ready, creeps, it's Creepy Confidential.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Subcreeps and welcome to Creepy Confidential. After dark. It has
been a minute, and I am so glad to see
you guys. First off, welcome to Creeptober. As you can
see a little creepy in here. My name is Noel.
I am the Weirdo wisconsinight and host of Creepy Confidential.

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As usual, I want to start by saying thank you
so much for joining me here on Creepy Confidential after Dark.
It's always a fun time to get together with friends,
and tonight I have something special. I have a group
of guests, well at least one guest as of right now.
We're hoping more will join us later and I hope

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that have been here for all the great conversation. The

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full audio episode catalog is also available on the website,
and you're going to check out the events page to
see what's coming in there our future and if there's
any lectures that might be in your town tonight. Though,
I want to welcome you back to after Dark. This
is my time to catch up with new creeps, old creeps,

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and fellow creators and investigators to talk about the Fringe
and fourteen World. Tonight, Creepy Confidential welcomes the very anticipated
reunion of Girls Investigating Ghosts in the Supernatural, which was
formed in two thousand and eight with a group of
vetechs and friends to search for the answers and evidence

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of paranormal activity. A few highlights of our group include
some of the most historical buildings of the Upper Peninsula
of the Pacific northwest over in Washington State, including Starvation Heights,
which I know you guys have heard me mentioned before.
That is the cabin of the serial killer Linda Hazzard,
the Cola Cole Schoolhouse in Kingston, Washington, and the home

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of the producer, and also the film location of the
horror movie twenty out in Bothel, Washington, where the owner
came to us telling us that the set workers had
claims of paranormal activity. So those are just a few highlights.
We're gonna be talking about quite a few tonight. We're
not only going to relive some of our highlight evidence moments,

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but also going to learn what the team has been
up to and how they're feeling, you know, about the
paranormal world today, because a lot of things sure has changed,
So stay with me because we're also going to be
showing you the two thousand Gigs Halloween horror movie short.
It was a screen baby, it was so much fun.

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The presentation will no doubt kick off creeped over for you,
so stick around and enjoy the very retro footage and nostalgia.
As always, questions will be answered from the comments because
I know you guys love to ask paranormal questions, and
even if you're catching this in the replay, feel free
to ask those paranormal questions. You guys know I absolutely

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love the paranormal. So creeps now, if you're ready onto
the show. Hello Kim, it's great to have you now

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real quick. But as before we get going, those of
those are the creeps out there that know us. GIGS
is a larger group tonight. We were also supposed to
have Phil and Shelby. We have reached out to them.
We hope that they can join us later on in
the show. But we've known each other a long time,
so we're going to carry this and we're going to
have some fun. So creep Nation, this is Kim, a

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girl's investigating ghosts and the supernatural. Welcome to Creepy Confidential.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Oh my gosh, I'm excited to be here. This is
so much fun. I haven't done anything paranormal in a
long time, so it's it's fun to be here and
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. I talk about gigs all the time. Anybody who
has come to the paranormal one oh one lectures, they
have seen the logo, they have seen the pictures, they
have seen video, they have heard audio. So you have
been more places probably than you know.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I love that for me. Yeah, I bring up gigs
all the time too. I'm like, did you know that
I was a part of a ghost investigating group my kids?

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Also the coolest thing ever. So yeah, and I still hear,
I still I know.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Show it's your shirt. Shows your shirt that is the
original original and the back has the original logo on it.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Yeah, I can't really turn around.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But she's okay, I got she's.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
There Asper ghosts looking cutie pie. Bill Did Phill draw that?

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (08:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah? Yeah he sure did. Now, if you're looking for
for those the logo that you're going to see and
the logo that is currently on the screen. First of all,
as you can see the creepy confidentials over to the side.
Today gigs is front and center. This was our one
of our the rebrand that we did once are You
and I kind of continued and did some investigations which

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are also featured on the lectures. My hobby had a
chance to redo that logo for us, so ghost Dogs.
In the comments, he says, Hi, Kim, very very cool.
It's kind of like a little re meet and greet.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Oh I see, I see very cool.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Uh So I have I have questions and then I
have a slideshow. I'm very excited and I have like
got that Golden Retriever energy right now. I'm very very excited.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
And get back into it. I'm like, I want to
see all the things. I'm very excited.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So yeah, now, so everybody who's watching this is retro footage.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
This is from two thousand and eight. This is almost
twenty years ago. This was equipment. No one had this
crazy equipment. We were doing things kind of the old
school way before they had all these new opinions. So
you can just sit down, take a break, have a
cup of tea. Okay, there we go. So let's kind

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of start off. I always I'm always interested with other
people I talked to, and I'm sure you and I
have talked about this, but got what was your first
thing that interested you in the paranormal? Can you kind
of recall that.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
I think that it was just personal experiences. We had
a house growing up that I thought was haunted, and
my sister and I would there was a crawl space
above our two bedrooms, and our bedrooms would meet in
the hall and kind of face each other, and there'd
be times we would hear footsteps in the crawl space upstairs,

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and we would meet in the hall in the middle
of the night because we would follow the sounds on
our ceilings and we'd open our doors at the same
exact time, you know, two three in the morning, and
we'd be like, do do you hear that? And you know,
we kind of got used to it over time. You know,
I was probably between like twelve and thirteen at this point,

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and we would just like get friendly with it and
it would just be a part of the house growing up.
And then we had a lamp downstairs, one of those
pendant lights, and it would turn on and off for
no And this is a brand new house. I just
want to point out this was a brand new built house,
so it was not an electrical issue as far as
we could tell. And our Pomeranian would bark at it

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at the light.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Like constantly and we were just no.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, So we were convinced that it was haunted. And
I think that's really what sparked. It was just the
house being really weird growing up, and I wanted to
explore more. I wanted to find out out more.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So that's and and I feel like it's either people
who have had nothing happened, like I didn't grow up
with with with a experience like that, or it's something
like that. I've had people mention that in the lecture
setting where they're like, I had this experience when I
was a kid, and I wanted I just it's messed

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with me or it stuck with me, or you know,
inter thing here. So that was interest. Either we've talked
about that a long time ago, or I'm old and
I have completely forgotten about that conversation. So I was
kind of curious about that about how you kind of
got started. Now, were you interested in collecting evidence kind
of from a young age, or did you kind of

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decide that later where you're like, I need to prove
what's going on.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think when I found other people that were equally
interested in either finding proof or debunking, I think we
were really lucky as a group we had, you know,
I think it was like fifty to fifty. Half of
us wanted to prove it wasn't real and the other
half of us wanted to delight in it being real.
And I think once we found people that were similarly interested,

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I think that's when I felt excited to pursue it further.
You know what I mean, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I agree with that.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
By the way, you guys will have to excuse me.
I sound froggy and I have cough. Drop tis the season,
and I think you nailed it. I think part of
us was like that dare to be great. Oh my god,
everything is that's it's a ghost. That's a ghost, this
is a ghost, this is this yeah, and everybody you know,
and I was the other side. I'm like, oh, but
this we were even talking about it before. I'm like,

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but the doorway technically could be. That's just how my
brain works, you know. I would rather say that I've
proven everything false because then I can prove that it's true.
And that's just how my brain works. So I know
it felt like we had that perfect, perfect mixture that
that was right away. Were you now? Were you did?

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Did you have fear? Were you fearful of of that
encounter or were you just like inquisitive.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I was scared. I was scared. I was scared. I
grew up as a kid who was easily scared by
the unknown. I was a fearful child. So I thought,
you know, I was challenging some of the fear in me.
Maybe it was just part of being in my early
twenties where I'm like, I'm gonna face my fears and

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I'm going to do the things that are scary. But
I was scared. I was. I was scared pretty easily, so,
but I think it was I think it was a challenge.
I think that was kind of the point, was to
be in a fearful situation and then be able to
process it. And plus, you know, when you have a
bunch of texts and science minded people, I think we're
all relatively science humans. It's pretty easy for us to

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rationalize our fear. And I think that other people going, no,
that's just the wind, that's this that that made me
feel better. I was like, Okay, it's not as scared.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, okay, yeah you're you're not kidding though, I have
so as i've been, I've been chit chatting in our
I was very excited when that I knew that I
could at least have a conversation about gigs in a
public setting once more. I am the archive keeper I have,
I still have everything, and because that's just how my

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I like that, that's how I work. I have the
library here, and I was going through evidence. I love
the pieces where you could tell you walked into something
that you didn't like because you were like.

Speaker 9 (14:33):
You, you were so you were so mad.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's sad because you couldn't run. You're either going up
the steps somewhere, and you couldn't run backwards, and you
couldn't go sideways because it was black, pitch black it was.
But it was also fun to listen to now that
I know what what you've said, it's also fun to
listen to you like you you were able to explore

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that fear and go, yeah, but what's that over there?
You were instantly like you would grab it and you
would go with it, which is really really cool.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
That is a really kind way of putting my phobia
of the unknown and my head eye. I'm like, listen
to me, like literally fighting the panic to like leave.
Like you said, you can tell I want to run away.
I'm like, I got to get out of here. But
you know that's a that's a very kind way of
putting me in here. So thank you. Yeah, I want

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to run.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh you could hear it, but you could also hear
it in my You could tell though I was like
trying to but you could hear.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It cracks me up every time. I love this, so
I actually I think I might steal this. So it
says science versus seance, and I love that approach. It's
true because you have a like that you can't prove one,
and then you have science on the other side. So
it's you have kind of both sides of the fence,
where that's spiritualist era where every bump and whatever is

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a ghost, and then you have the side of I
want every readout that I can scientifically to try and
prove those real. Yeah, all right, I have don't have
to excuse me again. I have my lists. Everybody. Now,
We've been to several locations over the years, including you know,
driving all around. Do you still have a holy grail location?

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, it's Starvation Heights.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
That was your holy Grail.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Oh yeah, because it has such lore. It has such lore.
I felt like a celebrity. We were one of the
few people ever allowed to go on the property with
the permission of the owners, hand guided by the family
that lived in that property. I feel like that that
was a special, special, special special because it if you know,

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anybody who grew up in Alala, Like my best friend
grew up in Alala and she's like, you've been there,
Like the fact that they're like, how did you get there?
You got invited? What do you mean?

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Like those women asked, yeah, yeah, and then we were
allowed to So I mean it really is uh super
special to me because I don't think anybody else went
there after we did.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I know there were tours and things led by the
what's the author's name, Greg greg Olsen. I know he
led some tours at some point, But as far as
being an individual group of people that wasn't profiting off
of the property in any way, Uh, that I think
that's the most special. That's like my and Plus I

(17:39):
don't think i've ever been Uh I've never felt more
surrounded by something than I did at that location.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Wow, I did not know that it's I mean, that
was I mean, that was a huge spot and we
took a huge chance. I still felt like a I
felt like I could have had a gun pulled on
me when I walked up to them and asked that.
But the fact that they said yes, and the fact
you know that all it took was a simple question
and they knew that we were not out to like

(18:10):
we're not malicious, We're not malicious people. We're not coming
in with who do voodoo dolls or anything. We just
want to document. So that was I did not know
that about you.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I went home and had a dream that a woman
was standing in the corner of my room that night,
and I don't know why that in like a white
dress like standing in the corner, and I wasn't sure
if I was awake or a sep Yeah. So and
then I was like, nobody follow me home. So I
just felt and the residual haunting energy, like the footsteps

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and the things that we heard just just existing, like
we could audibly hear them with the headphones that we
were using shooting range headphones. We were able to hear
what I assume was residual haunting footsteps up and down
the stairs as we're sitting there live actively just hanging
out out, sitting in you know, one of the areas
of the house, and I just I did not feel alone.

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And there's very few places besides maybe the cemetery, maybe
Pioneer that I was like, I am not alone.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
You know, Yeah, I agree, I think there are many
many cemeteries. But for some strange reason, we really liked,
we really liked that one. And that's why it's gonna
we're gonna be We're gonna be chatting about that one
for sure, about that.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
So, I I love these huge like TB hospitals. We
are we're really close to trans Alleghany and we're really
close to Waverly. Now, for me, Waverley is at the
top of my list, not because it's famous, but for

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some strange reason, when I look at I am not
first of all, before I say, this is going to
sound like I'm having like weird spiritualist feelings about that.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
This is not.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
That just gives me a feeling when I look at
the image of Waverley, it reminds me of when I
watched The Frighteners and the first time you see the
house that the bad family lives in, and it looks
like it's breathing. That's what that hospital feels like. Okay
to me, Okay, and I have never been there. I've

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never been there. I've never But for some strange reason,
I'm like, the windows feel like there should be people
staring out of them, you know, like it seemed too
many movies, sure, seen too many paranormal books, possibly, but
for some strange reason that one I cannot get out
of my head. But it's not easy to get into.

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And if you want to do an overnight you have
to have a huge bankroll. So those sadly that's what
it is. But that it's a gorgeous in the most
gothic way possible, gorgeous hospital, but it's decaying, you know,
it's falling apart, and it's one of those old old
places is now now. Mike of course made a comment,

(21:03):
what is this, Noel is the lescarian?

Speaker 8 (21:07):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Like librarian?

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Oh I get cute, cute, cute, cute.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
See I'm slow now before we move on though, to
the next part, speaking of starvation, heights. Do you know
that I found her book? And I'm not talking a
new version. I have a second edition that was printed
when she was still alive.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
No way, that's very cool to not know that.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Can I show it to you?

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Only because.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Only because you said it is your holy grail? And
I am the archivist and I keep and look for everything.
I have a small collection of books that you can't find. Okay,
there she is.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
It gives me the creeps. The book gives me the creeps.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Doctor mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Of course her middle name is Burfielder. Is that her
maiden name?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Uh huh? Because she didn't want to dump that maiden name. Yeah, yep,
and this one to be very careful with it.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
Here she is, oh yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Wow, oh yeah. I was so excited when I found this.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
She just knows.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
She just lets me know, just ooh yeah. This one
was reprinted in nineteen twenty two. She was still around
and kicking, So I keep it cool. I hunted that
down because of our history of going there. I had to.
Nobody else would really appreciate it, but you would.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Maybe Greg Oldsen would appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, but he'd probably be like, oh yeah, well I
have my signed first edition.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
You know, he's like, I have a cutout of the
cabinet with her hand right.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Or he has the cabinet probably probably yeah, actually down
in gig Harbor. So in geek Harbor there's the bathtub,
part of the cabinet and part of the steps. Don't
quote me. On the steps. There's a small museum that
he put down there. It's it exists.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
The bathub that we were standing in.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
That one, that one, that one.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
That's what I'm saying, Like, how cool were we?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
So everyone knows I love a good slide show. So
let's do this here. I'm gonna put this here. So
we're going to talk a little bit about GIGS. But
we have I've put together a couple of things here
before we get before I get going here and me
make sure everything works properly. Yeap, perfect. So let's talk

(24:01):
a little bit about how GIGS was formed. So we
had talked briefly about vet text. So you me shall
be Sherry. We were all we all worked at a
vet er together and that was back in two thousand
and eight. Was when we decided we were going out.

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And I think that it all started because we all
worked at some point we worked third shift or second shift. Yeah,
and I have a feeling between the trauma of dealing
with what we were dealing with. You know, you have
a lot of very stressful situations, and then all of
a sudden, it's quiet and we'd all sit around and
have a moment to talk about. It was a lot
of like, wait a minute, you you like watching taps?

(24:43):
You like watching taps. I like watching taps, And all
of a sudden it turned into this friendship. And I
don't know how the exact moment started though, about how
we decided what night we were going to go out?
Do you can you do you remember that or do
we just kind of decide we were going Well?

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I was it in October? Was it the beginning of October.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
That we went out? October thirty, two thousand and eight
was our first.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Okay, so it was Halloween almost it was the day
before Halloween, okay, because I distinctly remember that when I
started at the emergency clinic that we worked at, I
was working late and Shelby was teaching me how to
work on you know, all your guys's paper stuff, and
we I want to say something. We I think we

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heard a kennel door close, or heard something that shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Have random noises that happened there.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
And I think because we heard a sound and we
couldn't explore what caused the sound, I want to say
that Shelby was like a ghost and like made a
joke about it, and I think that's kind of started it.
And then I think you, I think you were heard.
Somebody was just like, let's go to the cemetery, and

(26:00):
I'm like, all right.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
You know, I think so, And that was that was
part of it. Is I mentioned like before I started
working there, I had been to the miller Woodlawn Memorial
Park and it was me and my and my friend Heidi.
We had been on the hill and this clip I
have played many times and it's two gentlemen and we
didn't know we got the EVP until much later where

(26:24):
we were home and reviewing, and you hear two gentlemen
go what did y'all do to this place? And the
second one goes, don't you touch her? And I mentioned
that and I think everyone just kind of agreed and said, well,
let's go there. You know, it's like we have a
we have a you know, she's been there kind of
situation and that was and that was where it started.

(26:47):
So I had to put together a clip. This is
our very first night. We stopped at A and W
to get burger. I don't know if you can recall
that or not, but this was us tag. We got
a picture with the waitress and a random employee that
was at the center with us. So this was our
very first night. Now I wish that Phil was here

(27:11):
because he mentioned this in one of our videos that
he remembered when we couldn't find we were out there
looking for Starvation Heights as well. This was after we
had gone to the Memorial Park and we didn't know
where it was. We had no clue how to get
out there, and we ended up down this road and
we looked down our night vision viewfinder. I don't remember
why we had this, and it was like he could

(27:33):
claim that something something was in the sights right here.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
And we hung on that on that road for a
long time.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, a while. Like I'm surprised the residents didn't come
out and was like, you guys got to move. But
we like we weren't being crazy, we were just kind
of out there. So that was It's very dark out
there for anybody who's been out there in Olaala, it
is very very dark, very heavy woods. It's either like
mansions or these kind of like I don't know how

(28:05):
to sit, like trailers. Almost basically, it's they're very this
or that. Now, the tricky part is in Washington State two,
there's a lot of moisture and it's there's a lot
of these kind of orb like shapes. So it's very
very hard to get clear photos because it's very humid.
Everywhere you go. It's fricking Washington, so it's very very humid,

(28:28):
and a lot of the images at night, these are
our first ones we were learning, so a lot of
them are very blurry, but we were for some strange reason,
we took a lot of images of this mausoleum. And
I don't know why. For some reason, I think, and
it was on multiple cameras, it's like we were drawn
to it.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
I think we heard someone talking, if I remembered the boys,
I thought we heard someone talking, and then we debunked
that it wasn't any of us, And then I think
we just got fixated after that, trying to see anything unusual.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, and this is just another one just to kind
of show kind of what what these little dots show
up as because it was it's it's rainy. It's always
rainy there in Washington, so it's you're always at odds
with the weather if you want to try and get
clear images. And there's there's lots of pictures of the
hills and things like that, but this was our first night.

(29:22):
We literally just took pictures of a random flat memorial
park and in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
And this this it's kind of like got like when
you go on switchbacks on you know, when you go hiking,
and it's like switchbacks. That's kind of what this this
hillside cemetery was. It was like switchbacks that you could
drive up, but it would go flat and then it'd
be up and then it would go flat again. And

(29:51):
it's kind of it's actually kind of an unusual location
for that.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
And it's on the side. It's like there's a part
that's flat and then the rest of it's like on
the side of the hill. It's and it and it's
you can't you should not be out there at night.
At the bottom of this hill is a not very
nice part of town. You have to like you have
to kind of gauge. You probably probably shouldn't put out there,
but we were.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Now, the next one is the house that we were
talking about where this movie twenty was filmed. This is
the house. I hate that house. It's creepy.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
I immediately went up.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
And I thought it was creepy. He was so so creepy.
He had like just you walked in and yeah, I
was so grateful.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
My husband goes, I thought it was girls investigating ghosts,
and I said, listen, we needed Phil. We needed Phil.
We needed a man there. We needed it to be safe.
We needed him, and also he we needed him for
the comic comedic. Really, Phils so funny.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
He put up on this so well.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Really, But I mean, I can't fathom going to this
house or some of the other locations that we had
gone to without at least a male. Not just because
we couldn't protect ourselves, because I think we all would
have kicked some booty, but I think just the presence
of a male helped helped us, especially back then We're

(31:20):
all really young. You have to remember how young all
of us were at the time, so we needed.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
A little I was like twenty four, so you had
to be even younger than.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Me twenty three for kids. So yeah, yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's just crazy to think about it. But this is
this is the house, this is what we rolled up at.
Now he said the I don't think I have it
written down, but I remember him saying that in the
garage they had some like film scaffolding and things, and
the person that was setting up the scaffolding claims that
they saw a woman. He couldn't produce any sort of

(32:02):
written presentation of what the person saw. He couldn't take
us to the garage, which I thought was kind of strange.
And then in the house we had a couple. We
did have some things happen in the house though, we did. Yeah,
oh my gosh, so we have bibbs, bigs, babies getting
ghosts in the supernatural pretty mad. That's now, that's a rebrand.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Maybe my kids want to reboot the reboot the squad later, yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
And then so this is where our this was downstairs
and now to get to there, there was like a
straight down stairwell into nothingness and it was a straight
like ninety degree where where you see this chair kind
of situation, and it burped down into the bottom of
the steps, and we had all of our gear here
you can see our little little strap of our probably

(32:57):
of our camera bag for our DVR. And I hated
this hallway me too. I hated it because it was
it was almost like a funhouse effect. It was long.
Their doors were set in and it was like you
couldn't control what could happen. I just I did not
like this hallway.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
If I remember correctly, at the end of the hall
to the right, that is the bedroom right that one
back bedroom we sat in with the little touchy light
and then there's a breaker box and we tested that
breaker box profusely to determine if that was what was
causing any interference with our detector. And uh, yep, yeah,

(33:37):
I there was what one, two, three, four, five bedrooms?
Six bedrooms? How many bedrooms?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
No, then there was only I think there was four
because the room that you see the light on is
where there was a like an ice chest. And remember
there were locks on the ice chest. I remember that,
but I remember now, I remember that, and then the
on the left hand. Now figure this out. I can't
remember basic instructions, but I can remember the full layout

(34:03):
of the stupid hallway. So on the left hand side.
That's where that dude was in that room that was locked.
He couldn't come out and the door was locked, but
you could see him every now and then move behind it.
But you never heard a sound on the side.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Wasn't there a sliding glass doors to like downstairs outside?
Aren't there sliding glass doors downstairs?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
At the very very very end there was a door,
but not sliding glass doors. It was almost like that
old glass like it probably should have been replaced, you know.
It was like that single pane because the house, the
house was I think built in the sixties or something
like that, like single pane glass, but it was it's
at the like you turn, you take a left, and
then the door and the to go outside was right there,

(34:45):
and then the breaker box was right there, okay, and
then the door you can almost see the entrance to
the door on the right hand side. That's where we
started getting activity, which we're gonna we're gonna see here
in just a few moments. So there's more in this house.
But this this hallway, the tennis ball never moved in
case anybody's asking, but this particular hallway there was all

(35:06):
kinds of things that for some strange reason you would
hear like footsteps and things.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
Now let's.

Speaker 10 (35:15):
What's your knee?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Now you'll hear this is our radio shack hack. This
is back in the day. For all you guys who
have these brand new wammandine pieces of equipment. Back in
the day when you couldn't afford it, you could get
on the internet and figure out how to buy a
little radio from radio shack that I had and then
take it so that it would continue to scan. And
that's what you're hearing. And this was in the sauna

(35:42):
room upstairs. That's where you were getting As soon as
we got there, we started getting activity upstairs in the
sauna room that was attached to the bedroom. Remember the
mattresses that were just on the floor and it had
there was no dressing on them. It was just like random.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah, I kind of part of my brain goes, was
this a serial killer's house? Is fact what we were
And it was he being haunted by his victims?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Because yeah, it's a lot and it was sometimes it
was and there was like mimicking and then there was
like there was a lot of men's voices and then
we got women's voices. Yeah, but this was read out
the gate. We got this someone that said the name Gabe.
So I'm gonna I'm just gonna play it one more
time to make sure that whoever's listening can get a
good listen on that one.

Speaker 10 (36:30):
What's your name?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And now that's just what we had it marked as
from back in the day. That that's not me marking these,
so I have it already a cued up. So this
was once we had been walking around in the house.
We were now in the living room. This is where
he had all those weird like electrical health devices. I
don't know how else to describe it, Like he used
electrostatic for whatever. And we continued to get we used

(36:59):
we we liked this this device. We used it quite
a bit.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
So let's do let's do this one.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Are you getting any reading.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
In that wild there's a trip and it'd be one
thing and like, so we have it on AM radio
and now it does I did. I don't think I
had the the like radio piece actually like removed, so
it did still get voices, but that comes clearly over

(37:40):
the top mm hmm. And it says ghost tunner and
he keeps asking, you know, like what's happening you know
what do you hear? Yes, because it had it had
gone dead in this area. We didn't have anything, and
then all of a sudden this came across. So I'm
gonna play this again one more time.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Are you getting any reading?

Speaker 9 (38:02):
It's like the same voice keeps following.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
That's wild. That stuff trips me out. Okay, so we're
just kind of going through evidence. These are just cool
highlights here and HE'PERI here's the room.

Speaker 11 (38:32):
If you text this flash, there's the weird stating again. Yeah,
it changes. Yeah, it's like frequency changes. That's exactly what
it's doing. Everything we say.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Are there more than one of you?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Hi?

Speaker 12 (38:57):
Hi, hear that?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I always love. I can always hear your laugh.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I have a very distinct laugh, and you have a
very distinct laugh.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah. Everyone always knows where I am because if I'm.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Same, you know, very you can hear me from two
rooms away and this one. So this was back in
that room that we were describing at the very end
of the hall, that right hand room, that like bedroom,
and it was it was mimicking us. It would we
would say something and then it would say it almost
you know, a second or two later. This was also

(39:35):
the room where the first the first time I had
ever been like touched by a paranormal entity my hair. Remember,
it was such a weird feeling, and it was you
know people are often like it wouldn't touch my neck.
It was like like these hairs if I have to
always describe them as others, you know, I'm cleaning them,
and it was like someone had lifted them and they

(39:58):
fell back onto my my neck and baby Noel just
about got up and ran out of that room.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
But and that was that diode we howso that was
we created that Phil. I think Phil also created that
little diode light so that you could now they use
you know, cat balls or little paranormal devices. They didn't
have those things when we were doing this. Yeah, we're
very like innovative with what we Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
I mean especially with the range headphones was such a
In fact, we talked about that on the Sci Fi
Channel when we did our interview. One of the cool
things that we put on our out there as one
of our special tools is that we really liked using
gun range headphones.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
To Yeah, it cuts all the high level out so
all you hear is the super like from here, you know,
like I'll say here down like doing it in a
simple description. Yeah, that was. It was wild too to
have that piece of simple piece of equipment. I mean
I used that was back when I was doing competitions

(41:07):
all the time, and I don't know why I thought
it would be a good idea to use them. That
they worked great.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
I think that we were going to try we were
in the early phases of trying that setup where someone
just listens and then says what they hear. I think
we were doing something like that before it became popular,
and I'm not really sure why we did it, but

(41:32):
I still get like goosebumps just hearing the radio do
the skipping. It still makes me go.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, you're like, whoa, that's weird. I think you know
it's it's something that you get used to hearing. But
then it's when that voice comes perfectly over the top
and it has nothing to do with the channels that
are scanning that. That's where you're like, oh, okay, now
I know what we're doing here. Like it was, it

(42:03):
was so wild. Now we talked about this two things
we talked about the crawling into the attic. I think
that was before air We were briefly mentioning that this
guy had an attic, and when we were in the
living room, he told us, well, you guys should wait
till you guys get to the attic. You know, there's
a lot of activity up there. And we climbed and

(42:23):
it was one of those like you pull from the
seil like it's flushed with the ceiling, and then you
pull from the ceiling and then the steps like come down.
And at the time, I don't we just didn't think
it through. We all climbed right up into the stupid.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
And none of us carried at the time or anything.
I don't even think we had pepper spray or anything.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I think we just, yeah, just went right up there.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
We sure did climbed right in.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I was like, that's insane. Now. When all of us
were done, you know, for the night, he gave us
a preview of the movie. Now, I'll give my thought
real quick, and then Kim can give her thought, because
I think she took home more of what the movie was,

(43:11):
and I took home more of what I saw in
the intro of the movie, because first of all, I'm
a music person. The entire intro of the movie stole
like from Nine Inch Nails music videos, all of it,
like the way that they do the shots, the colors,
the music. The entire thing was from the B sides

(43:34):
of one of the Nine inch Nails albums, and I
don't think he got permission to use it because then
when we saw it released, it wasn't on there, so
I think he was just using it as like a
sizzle reel and I was not impressed with that. I
didn't really even care about the movie.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Well, the movie was trash, trash in my opinion, and
I'm not even like a horror movie connoisseur, but I'll
tell you I thought the movie.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Now, I'll tell you what my my horror movie friends
that that review and do everything. I think they would
appreciate your opinion that you're able to give that and
say that it was trash. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it
wasn't good. I remember parts of it, but I truly
don't remember enough of it.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
It used to be on YouTube. I don't know if
it still is.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
It was yeah, crazy, crazy times. So if you find it.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
I would you have to send.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Share it with the creep Nation because I had a lot.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Of I uh uh, I lost her?

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Did you stay with me there you are, just it's weird, and.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Don't make on the internet. Stay with me creep nation, don't.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
I was like, should I do a little jig, Like
what do I do?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
You're good at you just keep keep the ball rolling. Here,
We're just gonna reconnect my uh my share screen here.
It looks like I'm still going. Luckily, there's another person
in here I'm on. It's because I'm on Wi Fi,
so it probably probably dumped it. That's okay, you okay, working, yeah, okay,
all right, So moving on. Here is your favorite Starvation Heights. Okay,

(45:40):
now you're I'm sure you have lots of great memories
from Starvation Heights, so let's let's talk about it. So
for those of you that are are viewing, as you
can see in the corners here because these are this
was like, this was used from from my lecture. I

(46:00):
kind of just pushed it in here. So on the
left hand sign here you will see Linda Hazard. On
the right hand side you will see her cabin, the
original place, which we'll talk about what she did here
in a second. Her original place burned down and she
took what she was doing out into the woods of
o Lala to continue her practicing. She was known as

(46:23):
the starvation Doctor. She would starve her patients down, her
rich patients most of the time, down to the point
of delirium, and then they would give over their jewelry, land,
you name it. And then once they were gone de ceased,
she could perform the autopsy, she could sign the death certificate,

(46:44):
and then she could dispose of the body. So she
could do all of it, which was very convenient for her.
We were able to go to this actual cabin that
you see and the actual window. We will we're going
to show you pictures here. Here she is making the
new woman is under arrest, charged with starving her patient's
patient to death. So here is I'm starting off with

(47:09):
the window because I think this one is kind of
strange because she appears to us. I don't know if
you remember her appearing in the window or not.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
I do, I do.

Speaker 8 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
So this is consecutive shots. I took lots of shots
during the day before we started, and then kind of
shots as the day went on. Now you can start
to see kind of her showing up here in the window,
and then you can see a more developed face here.
Now go ahead and tell me that her face doesn't

(47:42):
look like that face. It looks just like, doesn't it
look exactly like it? And no, and you know, people
are like, well, you know you can if you stretch
your mind enough. Yeah, don't look like that. But man,
it literally looks like she is walking towards the window
because it's their consecutive pictures and that's the far away one,
and then that's.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
The and there's and there's nobody in there. There's nobody
in there.

Speaker 12 (48:06):
No.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I think these were actually like we were, we were
figuring out kind of our game plan, uh, what we
were doing. M yeah, so let's see here what else
we have. I did have to remove the audio just
because of who else was speaking in the background. Now

(48:27):
inside of here, they're these I probably should show this
one first. So inside of this bathroom, the clawfoot tub
that you see is where she would perform her autopsies,
and this is where the you know, blood and liquids
could then go fall into this clawfoot tub. And then

(48:48):
on the left hand side are these cabinets. And while
we were there, we discovered that these cabinets actually still
had her handwriting in them, and they had either or
sometimes you could see names. Sometimes I saw tablets, I
saw pounds. You know, it's like, so what is what

(49:09):
was she trying to to notate? It was very We
never did figure out what it was, and they, of
course didn't know. They just bought the property. They weren't
related to her. M h yeah, but that bathroom was wild.
Don't you remember what the kids that would take a
bath in that.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
You know, that's that's that's wild. I do remember though.
One of the first things that I did was and
you know, the internet was not as resourceful as it
is today back at the time that we were doing
our research, but I was able to pull up some
samples of her handwriting at the time because I was like,
I needed to know if this was her handwriting, and

(49:52):
the and the owners had were like, oh, yeah, that's
that is. I remember the moment going back and looking
at handwriting from my photos and handwriting from anything I
could find in some of her book and you could
pull up like a PDF version of the book at
the time online, and the moment I saw that the
handwriting was the same. Because I have I have a

(50:15):
personal interest in graphology and reading about writing and looking
at interesting Yes, it's so interested and to immediately recognize
that that is her handwriting. It just it was really intense,
really like what is she she doesn't have paper? Why
is she writing inside this cabinet? What kind of psychosis?
Like what's going on with this woman where she's like,
let me scribe inside a cabinet Like that's I just

(50:38):
found that to be really intriguing. That's just wild.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Same And the only other strange part is that is
that I think this was in there because then she
could put items in front of it and close the
cabinet or a piece of paper might be out on
a cabinet or a dresser where this would have bottles
and satchels and tubes, you know, she did the enemas

(51:04):
and things like that.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
That almost looks like it says Clark.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
It does Clark mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
And it's wild because there was a there's two pieces
of it. There's this one and then I have a
couple other stills of image of pieces that are from
a like the door of it. It's like she just
turned it though and just like jotted it down. I
don't know, I mean, think about it. When you're that hungry,

(51:33):
you're nuts. Maybe that's part of it. Ghost dog asks
an interesting question for those that are listening in. Did
she ever do anything with the land or anything like that? Now,
from what I could find is a lot of it.

Speaker 7 (51:49):
She was a.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Hoarder when it came to things like that. I my
feeling is that she was wanting to skip down. That's
just my opinion.

Speaker 8 (52:01):
Yeah, because she was.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
She was under fire. She got under fire real quick,
and then she got caught.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Yeah. Well she left on the property. She didn't demolish anything,
So leaving the the incinerator intact was kind of a
damning evidence. It would seem like if you were going
to try to, you know, at least try to hide
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Well, she got sick, she got medicine.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Unfortunately it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
She got sick, and then she tried to do a treatment,
and then she died in that bedroom that we were in.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
That's why she would haunted, right, I bet. And then
there was Shelby leaving. Do you remember her leaving little
waverers all over the place.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, and I have so I think you might have
it because I have video of me pulling neck a
wafers out of my pocket everywhere. But oh, I don't
have any video.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
I thought it was Shelby.

Speaker 8 (53:04):
You.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Well, I remember there's a few of us that are
I'm not an instigator naturally on these types of investors.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Thought they were hungry, Well, I bet they.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Were, girl, I bet they were hungry. So it was you.
I thought it was Shelby leaving little snackies all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
That was no, because I had brought Neco wafers, because
we also went to we went to the cemetery Old Pioneer.
I had brought Neco wafers because those children were of
that time frame where those would have been popular candy.
So I had a half a pack of Neco wafers
in my pocket because I left half of them for

(53:45):
the kids at the cemetery, which is I know it's done.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
But we also left roses. We also left a few
roses and nice things, and there was lovely singing, and.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
We left a call, right, yeah, left a card out there.
It was it, really, I think, yeah, it just it
meant a lot to us. Now, this was the basement,
the dirt basement. Oh now what is not pictured here?
I wish I would have got a better picture of it.
Do you remember they described a room that was in

(54:19):
the middle of this room that was just four small
walls and a slidey door on the front. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
So that it was unement, right, isn't that?

Speaker 12 (54:33):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I think I think it was because when you're dying,
you're moaning and groaning, and she would probably put them
down there long enough to basically just check and go
already did yet because she didn't want to hear it,
you know, she was can't be bothered because of this craziness.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
And they this huge mound, these like weird dirt mounds
in the corner m I asked them if they had
ever investigated what this was, and they told me no,
they didn't want to know. You don't want to know.
You live on one of the most historical Pacific Northwest

(55:13):
serial killer houses and you don't want to know. I
thought that was crazy. Yeah, so these could be something
more than dirt because it was hard.

Speaker 8 (55:23):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Almost like clay, like hard clay.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
It was hard. I remember kicking it with my foot
a little to see the density of it. It was hard.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah, that was wild. So that's Starvation Heights. Is there
anything I think that? I think that's the last one
of Starvation Was there anything in particular, you wanted to
add about starvation heights before we move on.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
I think that we were able to differentiate pretty much
between what we were considering residual haunting sounds. When we
would have the range phones on and all of the
background noises were kind of muted, I think, I don't
know if you listened, but I know that Shelby and
Phil both listened. I was like, do you hear this?

(56:11):
And then I was like, somebody stopped the dog from walking,
because there was a dog that was there as a
boxer and it was walking around. You'd hear as little
click click click little nails on the floors downstairs. But
we would sit in that window where that photo is taken.
It's like a landing. So there was like stairs and
this little landing edge of a room that was like
a bedroom. It served as a bedroom, and we sat

(56:35):
up there and we just listened yea, and.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
It sounded like her, like she was coming up, and
they sounded like a Edwardian short heels. If anybody knows
what those little boots look like, they are thin soled leather,
small kitten heel boots and they have a very specific sound.
And that's exactly what they sounded like.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
It's like a thump with the clickie clack overtone, I
don't know how else to describe it. And it was NonStop.
I mean like you could just sit and listen to
what sounded like someone going up and down and up
and down and being around. And I thought that was
wild because you could hear it in real time and
it didn't seem to be reactive to communication, to instigation,

(57:21):
to any kind of obvious thing. It just was seemingly
going on in the background. It was really strange, and
I remember thinking, like, this is just like reaching back
into the past and overhearing what it might have sounded like.
It was. It was really cool.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
It was it was, and I think it's one of
those she she strikes me just as of what we
have learned. She strikes me as a control freak, and
I have a feeling she was constantly roving that house
and that property, and I have a feeling that that
is what we're hearing. I think that was just.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Yep, that's what I got. Pacing, and you know what,
people probably paced to The patients probably felt like little
cage champs.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
And they were probably uncomfortable. You know, cramping from all
of you know, from day long enemos always how painful,
Oh my gosh. So yeah, but I mean that place
has And the part that wasn't captured in our investigation
because there really wasn't a way to capture, was that

(58:29):
right outside the front of the cabin there's a very
large ravine. You walk out and there's a very large ravine.
So the patients that maybe when it came, I don't
know how to describe it, the family wanted to pay
for them to get you know, to take care of
the body. She would pocket the money, say that she
took care of the body because the family wouldn't want

(58:51):
them back because they're sick, and then she would then
throw them out into the ravine for nature to take
care of them well.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
And there was a lot of fear around illness at
this time because there wasn't a lot of understanding of
illness and how there was a lot there was germ
information was still new. You have to remember during like
the flu pandemic, even all of all of this they
didn't know and so it was almost like bad luck
to bring a body back that passed unexpectedly.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
And yeah, they didn't know what you were going to get.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Yeah, so you're right, they didn't they and it sounds unusual,
but getting the bodies back to bury them, Yeah, she
wasn't herself when she was hungry.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Right, A little little levity there.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
But I mean I had thought initially when when I
was learning about this, that it was so strange that
they didn't want to bury their family members. And knowing
what I know now about the time frame, it makes
a lot of sense that they were like, you know, no,
go ahead, and you know, and she didn't have she
did have an incinerator. She did burn some of the remains,

(01:00:05):
but yeah, maybe that's after she got tired of checking them.
I don't really know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Well, and even then, if you don't you don't want
to use the wood that it's going to take to
warm your house, then why you know. There's just so
many things, so many bad, bad, bad things about what
she did, and I wish that they featured her more
when they talk about serial killers, just because you know,
they always talk about men to women, I think is

(01:00:32):
the most the most one that's brought up, or they
talk about women that poison men, where she's kind of
her special breed and she's it's awful because she could
control every single side of what happened, which made her diabolical,
absolutely diabolical. So, having said that, we have something a

(01:00:57):
little more lighthearted to move on to next. As you
mentioned it earlier, this in two thousand and nine, the
sci fi ghost Hunters put out a call for a
paranormal contest. And this was when TAPS or ghost Hunters
was really big, and uh, we decided to put ourselves

(01:01:19):
out there and see how it goes. We're gonna I
have two clips prepared. The first one is I think
Shelby caught the commercial we had already sent in our clip.
We were waiting to hear something, and she caught the
commercial for it, and and you, if you you will
see that most of it is us, which is pretty wild.

(01:01:43):
So here goes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
And we narrowed down the field contest to see the
finalists in all the videos in your nils Hunters a
normal contest.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Tell me why seventy five percent of that is my editing?

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Yeah, I mean it is, it is. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
I'm like, oh, I remember I remember filming walking up
and down that hill for that intro.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
I remember filming.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
That I was so mad and I and so we
did something you know, spoiler alert. We didn't win, but
we were very confused because we saw this and we thought, baby,
that's us. We're the entire clip. And so we didn't win.
But oddly enough, they have scrubbed the internet of this contest.

(01:02:42):
I can't find it anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
I know. I went looking for it to when we
were talking about it, and I noticed the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Yep, and I thought, well, that's very odd. So I
have our entire submission. I think it's like a I
think it's like a two minute video if you want,
if you want to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
It, yeah, let's watch it. Shelby sitting on a desk
or something. I feel like for part.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Of you, and you're our coordinator. You're like our with
my little grain, my details. Yeah, we're all part of it.
But I must say the transformation in the beginning because
Taps did it. That's why I did it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Yeah, what's going on.

Speaker 11 (01:03:38):
Up?

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Hey guys, it's Kim Baby.

Speaker 13 (01:03:41):
Hey listen, I was just talking to a couple of
people out in the area and I've actually gotten a tip.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
On a really excellent location.

Speaker 13 (01:03:47):
Oh right, Hey, so it's the cemetery it's actually out
here in Ialala.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
I talk to a couple of people.

Speaker 13 (01:03:52):
They're saying that it's off the beaten path a little bit,
but it's gotten actually a lot of activity.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
It's hike a little bit to get there, all of us.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Good.

Speaker 13 (01:04:02):
Yeah, these this this cemetery actually has tombstones from you know,
the mid eighteen hundreds to early nineteen hundreds. It's actually
during the time of the flu pandemic out here in Seattle,
so it might be pretty good. We might get some
good stuff out there.

Speaker 12 (01:04:14):
She did it. Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (01:04:17):
Let's get the team together.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
All right, sounds good. I'll get the team together.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
And oh man, I gotta I gotta mute it because
it says can you hear it?

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
Okay, good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
It has God's back, So I gotta that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
We're so cute.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
See our whole.

Speaker 14 (01:04:43):
Video, Shelby and I am am a registered that Night technician,
which you actually have already seen. I work at an
animal emergency hospital with Noel.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
The reason that I want to do this.

Speaker 14 (01:04:56):
And be in this field is because I want people
who have had those experiences to be validated. I am
the skeptic of the group, and I want to be
able to make sure that every last bit has been
debunked before I say it's haunted.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
That's true. She wants to debunk everything. My name is Noel.

Speaker 9 (01:05:17):
I'm a veterinary assistant and she actually found me not
too long ago and we started doing this ghost hunting
gig and I have really been studying the paranormal slash
supernatural since I get a library card. I've always found
ghosts and kind of the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Other side very interesting to me.

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
Also big history buff, So before we go on any investigations, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Like the hey, did you know this?

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
I'm kind of the nerd of the group very much,
but that's when I think, you know, it really keeps
us into it and those little extra tidbits.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
We really kind of thrive off of each other.

Speaker 9 (01:05:50):
So I think games would be the next best ghost
hunters because we really bring.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Everything to the table.

Speaker 9 (01:05:54):
We bring new equipment, we try new things. We go
to those places that just because you haven't seen it
on TV, we still go. We'd also believe that ghosts
just don't haunt at night.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
We go during the day.

Speaker 9 (01:06:05):
We think if they're gonna be there and there's gonna
be activity, there's gonna be activity.

Speaker 14 (01:06:09):
And even though We're a bunch of girls who giggle
and carry on.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
We don't scary.

Speaker 13 (01:06:13):
Anyone on your team ever had a paranormal experience, please
describe it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
I personally have not.

Speaker 14 (01:06:20):
That's why they consider me the skeptic, so I have
not ready and willing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
For it though.

Speaker 9 (01:06:27):
Yeah, I think she always always kind of like waiting
for that moment to be great. I've never really had
an in person experience. I have done ghost hunting, just
kind of TV ghost hunting, and I had some voices
that were on an EVP and that's what sparked my interests.
I remember going back and I heard two guys talking
to me, and from that moment, I was like, Okay,

(01:06:48):
I need to be I need to be in this.

Speaker 14 (01:06:49):
But I think the GIGS team would take to be
convinced that a place was haunted. Is evidence evidence evidence,
Whether it's personal, whether it's catching EVP, catching night vision, whatever,
it needs to be evidence, and it needs to be
able to back itself up. So pieces of evidence put together,
not just one thing, but many things. So our favorite

(01:07:12):
location that TAPS did, and I'm not kidding you, this
was the most exciting and every time it comes on
TV Augustine's Lighthouse in Florida when he leans over that
apparitions over. It was the coolest and you almost made
the skeptic of believer in an instant.

Speaker 9 (01:07:32):
Yeah, just watching that or that little face pops over
and pops over, it made us want to go there instantly,
and we will and we will. However, we think something
that would add to an awesome experience like that where we.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Know there is definite activity.

Speaker 9 (01:07:46):
We have a different piece of equipment, and I typically
use one of these little digital audio recorders.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
However we've been using.

Speaker 9 (01:07:54):
I actually use these for gunshoots, and what they do
is it's basically like broadcasting EVP directly into your ear
and it sounds out all the loud sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
So it's basically like you're listening to an.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
E DP while you're there. It's good, it's awesome.

Speaker 9 (01:08:07):
So a little piece of equipment, we would think this
would definitely add to a hunt like that, So give
it a try.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
I think I don't know why I didn't win.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Obviously we should have won.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Yeah, I know, but I think it was equipment. I
think that's what it was for. And man, darn all I.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
Can remember is a Shelby and her ponytail hair piece
in that video. I will never forget that Shelby has
short hair and she's like.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
That was my weave, the fastest ponytail.

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
Gosh, I will not forget she's got this ponytail and
she's she's like, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
She was like, can I weary you? Can I wear
your phone? Can I wear your hair? I was like, yes,
you absolutely, Ken, because I didn't have like crazy long hair.
I've never had like crazy, crazy long hair. But yeah,
that was oh good times. So that was our submission.
I thought that was just like a good walk down

(01:09:16):
memory lane. You know, you were like, baby, Ken, did
you see Davidson's tail bumper car? Uh ah, No, it
was at the very beginning. You're like at the desk
and you're telling us about the case, and all of
a sudden you see this little tail tail. Yeah, he
was because he was always part of what whenever you

(01:09:37):
guys came over, he was part of it. Oh. Remember
I was telling you about my radio friend here she
is Strange Talk. Is here welcome Strange Talk. I was
just telling them about the attic incident where we I
was letting her that week I called in to tell
you about the attic incident or we all crawled in

(01:09:58):
so here comes old Pioneer Now. I think one of
the one of the coolest things about this was that
Shelby said it best. It said, it feels like like
not only are we watching them, but that like they're
watching us. Like everywhere we went this we got something
every single time we went there, and we almost just
wanted to go there to hang out.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I think we did. Yeah, I think we did.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
And it wasn't And I don't even know how we
found this cemetery, Like I don't It was like I
just remember hiking up like this. We'd park on the
side of a random road. I can't remember where it
is anymore, and I we just climb up a little
hill and I don't know. It was so obscure, but
it was so peaceful, Like I this is one place
I never felt scared. I felt so serene and calm

(01:10:42):
and peaceful.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
How could it look? Look at it? It's beautiful. The
whole place looks like this, and.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
The way the sun would filter through the trees and this,
I don't know how to explain it. It's like otherworldly,
you know, like, yeah, you know, in that scene in
Twilight where they go to the flower meadow and and
but yeah, like that, it's like magical. I don't know
how else to describe it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, there's something about it. And because Washington is very
humid and misty, it really is like that. Yeah, it
really is like that. And there's little things like this around.
It was I don't know, because it's not accessible to
cars if you have to hike up there to get there,
and it's it's just a cool, cool place. And then

(01:11:32):
now there's a lot I know, it's an odd random
stick and everyone's like, why did you put a picture
of a stick? So there's a lot of unmarked graves
in this cemetery, so I think they were working on
even back then you could get I have I have
it in that I still have all the catalog lists
of all of the people that are in this cemetery.
So at night you don't see these, so you have

(01:11:56):
to be very very careful when you're walking around because
because if you fall, that's a horror movie waiting to happen.
But this place was was absolutely crazy. Oh this is
a I don't remember which one is this one?

Speaker 12 (01:12:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
We're gonna find out. Oh, it comes on there twice,
it'll come up in a second, he said, supposed to.

(01:12:37):
Now I had what's crazy? I plagued this for an
interview ages ago I was in Washington. I had somebody
try and debunk this and tell me that this is
my chemical romance song. I thought, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
No, it's not what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I'm like. I don't know. I don't know that. I
don't know the songs, but as sure as hell, does
not sound that way. And I try to debunk this
as not your voice, because I thought the voice melodically
sounds like it could be your voice. But you can
hear your voice in the background.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Yes, you can hear me. You can hear Shelby saying
where where are flashlights? And then you hear me respond
to her. And I was also very far away from
the microphone because you guys have set up the microphone,
and I was like way, like way away. And also
in modern day music, you don't usually hear bub bu
bu ba. That's not very modern music in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
And especially as a young person, if you were twenty three,
i'll call it twenty three at that time, you, especially
as Kim, would not be singing bop ba ba ba oh.
She wants me to she wants me to play it
again here, So this is I don't play Hold on,

(01:13:59):
let's do it this way.

Speaker 7 (01:14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
You can hear Kim in the background, and there's nobody
up there.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Our voices are are pretty distant from because we put
it on a headstone. We've left the the microphone on
a headstone, and so we are talking about something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
You are you stay where are.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Talking about something?

Speaker 8 (01:14:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
So because it sounds like Alex is Alex might know
this song, oh Death Cab for Cutie.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
That song was not out. Sound of Settling was not out.
Sound of Settling. I could look that up. But I'm
gonna tell you I'm a Death Cab fan, and that
song was not out yet.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Hold on, hold on, Internet, Internet. I was out there
look it up for us. So I see, I don't
even I don't know that kind of I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
I know that song. So that's what I was tossed out.
It was out, it was about two thousand and three.
But it goes, this is the sound of Settling. But baa,
that's what it sounds like. She's right, that's what it
sounds like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
So then who where was it coming from? If we
were there was nobody up there, we had video, we
had audio. It's crazy. That is so weird. So now
we at least know what the song. Oh my god,
all these years when trying to figure out what the
hell the song is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Okay, it does not like because it goes, but it's
more it's like upbeat. It does sound like the sound
of settling. She's right, it does sound like that. And say,
but that's really strange because I am a death Cab fan.
There's no way you hear me talking. I'm not singing,
and I'd be very unlikely to sing that song because
I just like that. But that's not my favorite death

(01:15:55):
Cab song. So it does sound you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Can hear I hear your voice because you, Shelby were
constantly bickering about flashlights. I can hear you in the
in the in the like distance, and I don't.

Speaker 12 (01:16:07):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
That doesn't sound like me at all. So it's wild that,
you know. And we would have driven up in the
jeep m hm. So we wouldn't have been playing this
in the car because Shelby wouldn't have put it on. Now,
and so it's wild and you can have.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
On your phones or anything like that. None of us
had m P three players or anything at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
And we didn't have we didn't have the radio shack
hack up there because it had to run off of
computer speakers.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
And we were also pretty fastidious about not playing background
sounds or making background noise like there was talking. But
we would have never played something that had additional audio.
There's also, in my opinion, an old timiness to the
sound of this voice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
The sound of the voice. Yeah, I thought that too,
because it has a uh like the cadence of it
is different. Uh just for how because if as someone
who knew who was a like you, you knew, you
know who they are?

Speaker 8 (01:17:11):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I couldn't tell you a single song by that Death
Cab by that Death Cab for Cutie, and I don't
know who they are. And if you knew the song,
you would sing and you were a fan, you would
sing it in the way that you were used to
hearing it. You would not typically go off kilter where
and I and unless you heard it somewhere, it's very strange.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
So this this was on an audio recorder, on a
Sony audio recorder that was left on a gravestone and
it's out in the middle of nowhere or in the
middle of nowhere, So whoever is listening, you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Know, for beuties from Washington. Ben Gibbard is from Washington.
Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I did not. I didn't even know, like I could
tell you. Yeah, I know that that's a band, but
I can something about them.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Do you know who the Postal Service is?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
That's his other man.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
The Postal Service did more of like kind of dance
like EDM type, more dancy music. They had a couple
of songs that were featured on commercials. But Ben Gibbird,
who actually helped sponsor getting a library built out here
in kids Up County, he you know, put money in
on it. Yeah, they're from Washington. Death Keptter Kiddies from Washington. Jason,

(01:18:28):
his drummer, drum my ex husband actually had a drum
lesson from him in Seattle that I arranged. So I've
actually met both of them, and so they're from Washington.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
A strange theory is that since at this at this
cemetery we had gone up there, we have seen beer cans,
we have seen gravestones knocked over, so clearly people can
go with they go up there and party listen to music.
Is there is a chance that it's thing's mimicking something.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
Maybe yeah, maybe they heard someone listening to music and
we're singing a song. They liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's wild. So well, this is
this is called all kinds of crazy stuff. Excellent.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
That is that's so fun to actually hear a song
that got close. It's pretty close. It's not in the
right key, the tune is. It's just a little different,
but it does sound like they're saying that. It does
sound like that. That's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Totally sounds like that's what they're saying, because that would
make sense if someone like a spirit heard it from
over there and then hadn't heard anything in a long time,
you know, like something that's interactive and interactive spirit, and
then regurgitated it. You're probably not going to get it
right the first shot, second shot. You know, you're gonna

(01:19:46):
have to hear it a bunch of times. Yeah, it's interesting.
I haven't I have another EVP from up there, pretty sure? Oh,
I think I just got the one, all right. So
now we're moving on to Kingston. This was the col
of Coal Building. Oh, well we got another one hold

(01:20:11):
on first. So Strange Talk says, let's make it weirder.
The first line is quote, I've got a hunger twisting
my stomach into nuts. That's my tongue is tied off.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Yeah, it goes, I've got a hunger twisting my stomach
into knots that my tongue is tied off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
That creepy yeah, which sounds like starvation heights, which all exists.
I mean this that cemetery is like right down the street. Yeah,
they're they're like a stone's throw away from one another.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
Wow, how about that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Yeah, we're I love to see years later you can
still dissect cases. I love it. So this is the
Colon Coal Building. Now this is used for like a preschool, uh,
like a pre K kind of situation, daycare kind of situation.
But this was nineteenth century construction. The upper half used

(01:21:08):
to be open. You can tell these windows are kind
of closed. It used to be open air. And then
in the middle of the trees kind of blocking off.
There was like an old school bell. So we got
to go in there late at night because we were
told that there was activity that was happenings. Yeah, yeah,

(01:21:36):
they're moving dishes. Yeah, I look, Kim goes, what is
that talk about that you're gonna grab that fear? Because

(01:21:56):
the part that comes right after it, you're like, let
me go check.

Speaker 15 (01:22:02):
You do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
You went into the kitchen and all of a sudden,
you hear you go, okay, less that and you started
clanking dishes and you did debunk. Well you didn't. You
showed us that that was indeed the sound. So these
it's almost like in the back of the school, they
like would put all the water and the little dishes

(01:22:23):
from the kids that they would hand wash, and while
we were in the other rooms, these dishes started clacking.
It was wild. I couldn't it was weird. I did
not expect this place to be.

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Hot, but it was neither me neither.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
So that was that was one just the dishes. A
lot of these are just like, yeah, we're just kind
of whatever. Oh I love this one.

Speaker 15 (01:22:43):
So before near the window, did you catch it?

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
You didn't? I didn't, So.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
The camera pans, I'll put my pointer on it. I
walk out there because we we had heard something. We
did have the radio shack going and I checked one side.
I check one side, and when I turned to the right,
there is a black shadow figure that runs away in

(01:23:36):
the window. Remember this is retro footage, so.

Speaker 12 (01:23:47):
To be on this side.

Speaker 9 (01:24:09):
So two consecutive shots, right, see that one, what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Is that over the window? And you can hear me say,
I'm like, what was that over the window? And you
can it's almost like you can hear someone breathing in
through their nose. And that's one that goes like, and
what's crazy out that window or on the second story?
There's nothing outside?

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
Yep? I remember this now, yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
There's and I thought, and it was one of those
we caught rarely. It's like you it's hard to catch
things when you're in the moments, it's so dark and
you really don't catch things. But we we did. We
caught that right as we were there. These are all
kind of the same similar area now Fort Warden. This
one is short. I only brought this one up. And

(01:24:51):
this was the little sailor that moves in between frames
because we mentioned someone mentioned it in the UH in
their anniversary in our innsversary footage here, but real quick
ghosts Strange Talk says ghosts should really help around the house.
They're talking about doing dishes.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Maybe they were maybe they were.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah, they're like, we got to take care of these kids.
So there's a couple that are just the of the image,
and then I show that when we went back we
tried to debunk it. So this is from far away.
If you look, come on, mouse hold on right. Here
is where he appears, and now you can really see him.

(01:25:35):
It's almost like he has like blues on, like sailor blues.
And then he moves a little further over in front
of whatever this was. I think it was one of
those lookout little things, had something behind me. And then
this was us debunking it. So you can tell there's
one of us is standing here and it's an actual

(01:25:57):
like full figure hmm, and there's us walking across it. Yeah,
and we couldn't uh, we couldn't figure out what it was.
This particular fort was not used for combat or battle,
so we asked those really nice ladies at the uh
lighthouse about it. Yeah, and they couldn't tell us anything.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Just screaming and screaming and screaming and getting stuck inside
the the super narrow the water's getting higher, and then
she tries to open the door and then we're like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
And you guys are all behind me, and I have
nowhere to go but a bolted, shut, soldered door. Ah yes,
I remember that. Whoever, I can only imagine what somebody
heard from the outside. Oh yeah, probably sounded like a
horror movie.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Probably probably so.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
For those who have who have stayed with us, are
tuned in later here. This is a short literally a
short folloween not very long. We were way up in
uh Nearer Starvation Heights out in Olalla, and we decided
to make ourselves a little horror movie. There is women
screaming in this, so please do not turn off your

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headphones too loud, but we will.

Speaker 7 (01:27:19):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
It is quite good, and this was our one year picture.

Speaker 8 (01:27:24):
Quite good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Yes, I have summed up in one photo.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
This is top tier acting. I just want to point out, Yeah,
she's an actress.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
I still feel bad for how we treated you, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
I really have to pee, all right, really bad. You
pull over, you don't care, right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
And I'll just be careful.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
I'm not going out there with her. You're gonna have
to go yourself, dude, Okay, before I go, I guess
I'll just take my phone or something I don't know.
Free up though, I'm here.

Speaker 7 (01:28:08):
You have to pee, I know.

Speaker 8 (01:28:10):
Oh oh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Who is that?

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
Oh my god, Oh my.

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
God, it's so good.

Speaker 10 (01:28:36):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Sure what is wearing on his face? What's what's going?
Why does he look so scary.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Because he is the bad guy. He did a great job.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
He he has like a ski mask on his face.
He looked so freaky.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
No, he had like his watch cover and then he
had like like a like a neck cover. And oh
it was good. He did great job. I know what
you did last summer. Who okay, yeah, yeah, spooky, spooky,
spooky yeah. And then these were like, uh his hordor bloopers.

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I had to take the audio out because they were,
uh the course they had thing so this. So we
literally went out into the middle of nowhere and we
filmed this. It was great. I don't remember how we
decided that we I think it's because we knew it
was near Halloween. We wanted to do like a like
a horror movie. Fielded so good. He was so creepy.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
Look at him, he was he was creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Oh my gosh. And then we just that Sherry was
going to be the one that got gets taken at
the end because she was the fresh meat.

Speaker 8 (01:30:06):
Yeah, that's why she pulled.

Speaker 7 (01:30:07):
The short stick.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I have a favorite. I have a blooper though.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
Just everybody, it's quiet, It's okay, now, you know, like
every classic, Everything's.

Speaker 6 (01:30:19):
Fine, It's fine fine.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Uh So Strange Talk says Buddy System always always, ghost
Dog says definitely del Toro or Spielberg level directing.

Speaker 8 (01:30:39):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
And then at the end of the.

Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
Night, still open, nice, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Get out of the car.

Speaker 10 (01:31:04):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
The bad guy bought his Jack in the Box. We
were fine.

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
Egg rolls. I loved the Jack of the Box.

Speaker 7 (01:31:14):
Eggs just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
There. What did you say about egg rolls? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Jack in the Box had the best egg rolls. They're
little egg rolls. You can get them for like two dollars,
and you know, a little snack.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
I was like gut rot food. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
So Strangetock says, see serial killer understands the Buddy System.

Speaker 8 (01:31:40):
M hmm yep.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
And then I found this this gem so before when
I'm gonna go to it here in a second, before
we were on air, I mentioned the thirty one minutes
that will never see air except for this gold Okay.

Speaker 15 (01:31:55):
So I just liked god record saying that, I mean,
this is the best screwed.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
Okay, this is the best group? Am I in focus? Yes? Okay, the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
One of the most amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
Ghosts in the world. There's a lot we were on.

Speaker 15 (01:32:16):
The sci Fi towel, so I just totally want to
thank God and.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Wait, wait, wait we hold that, hold on, I'll let
you finish.

Speaker 13 (01:32:23):
But Tams had the best ghost on and show in
the world that ship I'm gonna right now?

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Is that Kanye Westinger?

Speaker 10 (01:32:35):
What just happened?

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Did you totally did? And that was why I was like, oh,
this has to go in. The rest of it cannot
see the light of day, but this has to go in.
And shortly after this, I believe Shelby has But am
I as pretty as tailors left?

Speaker 12 (01:32:56):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Man, that's so good?

Speaker 7 (01:33:00):
Right, yep?

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
These are the things that you know, I create late
at night.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
I like it into it, so I have.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
I hope everyone enjoyed our little, our little flashback blast
from the past two thousand and nine girls investigating ghosts
in the Supernatural Halloween Horror short. You got to see
Gigs and Kim's Academy Award acting and Noel being mean

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and shall be being mean?

Speaker 8 (01:33:32):
Because she had to be.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
And Sherry rip being taken by the back guy.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
You know what fills it not in or fills in
that shot, but Sherry's not, so Sherry's just gone, Yeah,
it fills back to bring us some Jack in the box.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
So yeah, he redeems himself. He's like, hey, I'll buy
jack in the box though, Is that okay?

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Oh my gosh. Ghost Dog asked did she ever get
to pee? I think.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
I think that was me pretending, you know, that was
my acting pee, you know, I think that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Yeah, because it was like I wasn't gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
You know, drop my pants for the scene because that's little,
you know, outside my pay grade.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
Yeah, you got to get a big enough kickback.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
That is hilarious. So after we've had a chance to
go through all of you know, like these kind of
snippets and time, I know you and I have done
a few other investigations together, which I think I think
would be great if you're if you're be something to
talk about to come back and do those. We have
a Mason Lodge that we've done. We did an investigation

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or in Seattle, the lake there with the Green Lake murder,
which I've talked about before, so that was kind of
after things had changed. Uh, do you have any kind
of thoughts on any investigations you really think you want
to make sure you talk about before we kind of
wrap up here this evening.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
No, I think we really touched on on the highlights
of them all. I mean, it's like you said it was.
It was kind of surprising how active that the cold,
cold building was. And was that the one with the
big stairs that was a big staircase, right, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
You went in and it was like straight yeah, and
then it split.

Speaker 4 (01:35:29):
Up at the I just remember Shelby, Uh, you know
playing the butt trumpet stairs like wild.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
It's on our It's on our our, like funny trailer
on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
Short skirt, long jacket, Yes, that is on there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
No, I thought really.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Touched on all the memorable, memorable ones.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
So yeah, well, thank you, but thank you so much.
I have I've been holding on to all these archive
memories and I do talk about gigs so favorably with
all the paranormal people I come across, and it's kind
of it's my it's my stamp in time because I
have literally been in the game now as an investigator

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since we started in eight So it's it's fun to
look back and say like, oh yeah, here's my team,
and here's all the cool things we've done. And I'm
glad that I have somebody that can I can share
these hilarious moments because we took the funniness and the
seriousness and we could dance the line and still get

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down to work. So I loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
Yeah, it was great. Always happy memories.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Well, very cool. I have just want to remind everybody,
don't forget. You can go to Creepy Confidential dot com.
You can check out all of the replays, you can
hang around because Creeptober. There's tons more stuff coming. Special
episodes we're getting for the Horror Halloween special and I

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cannot wait to get back in the in the this
little creep brain for the fun of October. So we
haven't said that, I think, thank you again so much
for for being a part of the show and creep Nation.
We'll catch you next time right here, Creepy Confidential, Oh

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my gosh, and won't let us