After Dark with Stories in the Cemetery

Creepy Confidential welcomes Stories in the Cemetery! Aired 7/25/25
To view the livestream visit www.creepyconfidential.com/afterdark
Nicholas McGirr, Lead Investigator/Owner and Josh Amen of Amen Paranormal Research will be joining us on this livestream to talk about Stories in the Cemetery. A paranormal company based in Charleston, SC offering an Interactive Ghost Hunting Experience where YOU are the ghost hunter. We will be discussing his books the "Paranormal Investigator's Almanac" and the "Paranormal Investigation Workbook" . Also on the topics log will be what his investigation tours offer, must-have favorite tools, techniques, and more. As always, questions will be answered and highlighted from the comments . Feel free to speak up and share with the class. www.storiesinthecemetery.com Purchase the SITC books here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZV1BCB2?... Stories in the Cemetery: IG & Tiktok: @storiesinthecemetery Amen Paranormal Research: IG : @amen.paranormal.research www.amenparanormalresearch.com Visit www.creepyconfidential.com for more creepy content.

Episode Transcript

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Tonight, though, welcome back to after Dark, and it's our
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in the real world. Tonight, Creepy Confidential welcomes Nick and

(03:22):
Josh Stories in the Cemetery and Amen Paranormal Research Now.
Stories in the Cemetery is a paranormal company based in Charleston,
South Carolina, offering an interactive ghost hunting experience where you
are the ghost hunter. As always, questions will be answered
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Speaker 1 (05:07):
Welcome back, Creeps. As you can see, I have some
friends now. Welcome to the show, Josh and Nick.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well it should Josh ash Ah.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I am so stoked, absolutely so stoked. Now everybody who's
watching and who knows me knows paranormal is my first love.
I cover many a subjects, but I always seem to
come back to the paranormal. So now that I have
somebody in my similar wheelhouse, we can We're gonna, We're
gonna let loose and have a conversation. Are you guys ready?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm ready? Like you look really excited for this, like
you're stuttering. I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
I know, I love I get so nerdy and geeky
about all the little things, and I'm that's that's what
I get most excited about. But before we get going,
I would like you both, you guys, take a little
chance to tell our creep nation who you are and
what you do.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Josh, I'll let you go first. Since your name was
said first, we'll kind of go with that alphabetically. That's
that's what's going on in my brain right now. She
said that alphabetically.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I thought it was by age.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Your we're not going to talk about age.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I give Nick a lot of crap. And there's running
jokes on our podcast already. All right.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
So amanparormal research dot Com is where you can pretty
much find everything me on all social media. It's aim
in paranormal research, and I also have an interactive ghosteending
event in Pasadena, California. Uh, the paranormal scavenger Hunt.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
So I love that.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, that's and then I co host Nick's podcast, the
Stories in the Cemetery Podcast, So we've got a lot
of things going on.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yes, we do always.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And then our man of the hour, Nick tell us
what you do?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh, I do stuff. So, like you said at the
top of the show, I own Stories in the Cemetery,
which is a paranormal company that does I mean, we
take people ghost hunting. I don't want to say people.
We'll call them muggles because I love that word. As
we already discussed that, So I think muggles ghost hunting
here in Charleston. And I do this full time, so

(07:34):
that's kind of the I guess, the bread and butter
of the business. But you know, Josh and I work
on a lot of separate projects with experiments. You know,
I came up with a workbook to be able to
measure paranormal investigations. I'm sure we're going to talk about that.
We're on our third edition of that with the Citty
scoring system, and we just came up with our first

(07:55):
almanac with the data from the past couple of years
worth of investigations, so Jo I know, right, and I
was gonna have us all like hold them up at
once like we would be yes.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
But for the youngsters who don't know, you need to
look up Vana White. You're welcome. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
She actually lives just north of here in Myrtle Beach,
so of course she does. You didn't know that, did you?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, So and anyway, I mean, stories in the cemetery
is just like in Paranormal Research, he's trying to hold
up his van of White.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I see you down there, Josh, Yeah, you got a
Vana Vanna.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, you gotta put in front of you so that
way it doesn't you know, blend in with THEA is
like this.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Look at my book.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
That's hard because I'm mirrored.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
So I'm like, I'm moving one way and it goes
the other way.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I don't care who you are. That's funny.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
But I mean the stories in the cemetery, you know,
we mesh a lot with what Josh's in Paranormal Research
company has done. And that's actually how Josh and I
met was through you know, social media, just because we
have very similar theories about things and kind of going
through that. But I mean Josh and I have become
besties over the past two years, and right now he's considered,

(09:12):
you know, the business partner because we're constantly going back
and forth with what is going on in our experimentation
and the things of theories. You know, we've had some
really in depth conversations with some really cool folks, you know,
just you know, between ourselves via text and talk, but
also through the podcast. So you included I love that.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
So yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
If I remember right, I was going off to a
plane ride the next morning and I looked affright, So
you didn't miss anything. So you guys answered one of
the questions everybody, everybody who's watching this now or later
or listening in I have my creep cards in. One
of them was how you guys met up and like
on the opposite sides of the states, so very.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Co That was one of them.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Now, before we get to your books, though, I want
to start off by saying, I love your approach to
the paranormal.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I feel Nick.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I love that you post these videos that are almost
I can tell they almost might piss people off in
a that maybe are in a different frame of mind
about the paranormal and I love that because it's like, how,
you know, what are you really doing? Like that's the
that's the general vibe without it being overly you know,
overly Ruth.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
That's just how I'm saying. And I really like.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
That that you're bringing back the science side of the
house and less feels. We like the like the Zach
Bagan's effect of everything. Yeah, like everything everything's is way
over the top and oh my gosh, it's drives me crazy.

(11:01):
That drives personally, it drives me crazy because that's not
how I do things, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Kind of how is that?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Were you always in that wheelhouse or did you start
off with all the feels everything and then narrow down?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well how did that go?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
So? I mean, I think with for the way I started,
I mean, and don't get me wrong, I do get
into a lot of the woo woo of this, you know,
but without this part of it. Proof, Yeah, without you know,
the verifiable, measurable proof. You know, that's not what I
normally publicize, especially a with the ghost Hunting Experience, you know,
the podcast. You know, Josh and I are already planning

(11:39):
for twenty twenty six, the episodes there and some of
it does deal with, you know, some of that woo
woo feel, the effect of how can we look at
this out of scientific nature? Can it be measured? Can
we can we use this basically instead of just I
can feel the orbs around me kind of bs. But
it's definitely evolved into the all right, I need like

(12:02):
something with some solidarity behind it. And you know, when
I when I started stories in the Cemetery six years ago,
it was more like it was a scary thing, you know,
but it was more of a It was scary on
the fact that I walked away from a six figure
income to sell fifteen dollars tickets to see if people
want to go see ghosts with me.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
So that was me. I mean, yeah, you got you
gotta want it.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
But I would say more so over the past you know,
three years when I really started diving into, you know,
with the city scoring system and developing that, that's when
things really started to spin for me. You know, I've
been doing this a long time, you know, as far
as the investigations for the tours go, I mean that's
only six years old, but I've been investigating for about
fifteen but researching it for about twenty seven. Shut up

(12:47):
Josh about my age. I know it's coming. He started laughing.
See I'm down there, but he's like, yeah, yeah, I know.
But at the same time, yeah, it's it's evolved, you know.
And Josh has brought a lot of things to light
with that, and I think that's why we work out
so well, is because he he likes to put that
measurable piece on things and then I'm doing the math

(13:08):
behind it to see if it actually works.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I love I really do.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I appreciate that and I've I was recently told at
my I did a panel at the convention and it
was about the paranormal, although we were talking about entities
within movies, just to kind of highlight that. We had
a brief conversation and people were asking me questions about
paranormal and they said, I appreciate how objective you are,

(13:33):
and it's I think you into the day's day and
age you kind of lose that. Everything gets hyped up
to the point where you kind of lost what you're
looking for.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
So, at least in my opinion, yeah, yeah, it's kind
of you kind of lose that. And I.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Started off to age myself as well. We didn't have
all these crazy pieces of equipment. Back in the day,
you had maybe an E MF reader that probably wasn't
that great. You might have a meilmeter depending on where
you started in the in the years because that he
made that a little bit later, you know, and you

(14:14):
might have like a thermometer basically if you're inside somewhere.
But those were kind of the bread and butter pieces
of equipment if you were just gonna you know, aside
from like recorders. So I find it that like that
that's what we have. Then why why did we get
so off track in the world of trying to prove
prove what we're trying to prove, right, and then equipment?

(14:39):
You have so many pieces of equipment. I'm I'm jealous.
Did you when you first started what was your what
was the pieces you started with?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Ah? So, I think Josh actually has a better story
for this.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
There's a story.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, I like that, a story. I'm gonna let Josh
kind of hit this one and then I'll answer it
because his is way more like scening than than Hey,
I know.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, so I started investigating when the K two meters
were sixty bucks a pop, and uh sure, oh yeah,
I had Yeah, I think I bought one. I had
one K two. I had a Sony recorder, which wasn't
thirty forty dollars.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Like they are now. It was like a hundred bucks. Yep.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
I had a regular camera at home, and I duck
taped flashlights to the top and the bottom of it,
like little round ones. And I thought I was the
ship because I was like, I made it so I
could see in the dark.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, right, like the ingenuity.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Baby click turn the camera on, fucking click ten buttons,
but like I could see and.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
That That's basically all I had to start.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
And it's funny because one of my s EVPs to
date is from the investigation I did like that, and
it was from the little sunny recorder, you know, And
it just goes to show you like in some cases,
it's like you start off and you get so so
much like crazy little stuff that happens, and it just

(16:18):
drives it so much further, you know. And now I'm
sitting here and I'm like, I got like a forty
pounds backpack behind me packed up, ready to go for
tomorrow because I'm invited over to an event that's gonna
be live streamed on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
So I remember personally, like I remember switching over from
like I could fit everything in like a little over
the shoulder bag too. I switched out everything I also
used to do, like competition shooting. So I went and
I bought my tactical bags that I had. I swapped
them all all all so that my equipment could was
all tactical bags because it was so freaking heavy.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I use that.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Yeah, I have an advanced camera bag. It's like a
thousand pockets adjustable pieces the bell prow.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
That's the only way I could fit my gear in
for the tours, because I mean, if I'm taking up
to fifteen pieces for ten people, you know, to run
different experiments at different locations, like.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Like Josh, you have an assistant.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
No, it's it's about a forty pound bag.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
And when you do this every night, you know, I
mean that's that's how I keep the girlish figure at
my age. You know. It's you know, you walk around
a Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
City paranormal equipment. Yeah, right, I need.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
A workout video, Josh, it's next on the list. Put
that on their paranormal workouts with the backup.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Oh my, I bet you though.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I would like people dressed up as quote unquote ghost hunters,
which is just kind of tactical. Basically, people think it's great,
Oh my god, they love it. I'm like, it's hot,
it's heavy, and I look like a fisherman.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's a GoF fisherman, like.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
We should a guy. I was standing go ahead. I
was standing on my like my my starting point, waiting
for my guests one night a few weeks ago, and
I have I wear tactical pants, you know, the ripstop style,
and I often wear this one. I think this is
the one with the camera on it. And I got
my my vest on, you know, and I got my
dart backpack and somebody walked by him and they were
on the phone and like thanks for your service. I'm

(18:15):
like for hunting ghosts. Like like like I'm not in
the service man, Like.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Nobody in the service like dresses that way right, you
staying people after dark?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Like I got my ghost trap on and I'm ready
to toss it out, and it's got like thanks for
your service. You know.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Para tactical, That's what it is. Para tactical.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
We're gonna start a parathon, you know, paranormal event. Everybody
takes forty backpacks and run a one k h.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I'm not running anywhere, not unless there's something refreshing to
drink at the end. No way I'll go answer the question.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
At this point was the you know, because Josh had
his crazy duct tape flashlight.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
First piece of equipment was an actual psychic That was
kind of where things got in the I was writing
a book just about him. You already know me as
a writer. I had no intentions of doing what I
do now, Like this wasn't even a thought. So I
was working with psychic medium Carl Ray. You may have
heard him or read his article from the you know,

(19:22):
the Almanac. And then I needed a voice recorder because
he talks as fast as I do, so when he's
doing like his automatic writing and things like that. And
it just kind of slowly evolved from there. The first
tours that I did, I had an SB seven, which
is the very basic. It wasn't even the new SB seven,
It was the cheap SB seven, Uh, tossing out batteries

(19:45):
like crazy, that voice recorder and a K two meter,
and I think I was charging fifteen dollars for tickets
just to see if people actually wanted to do this,
and then over the past six years it's literally evolved
to all of the videos that you've already for mentioned.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, I love that, so I've had it's crazy so
when I also when I started, they have I'm sure
I hope you've heard of this term. I built myself
a radio shack hack back when radio shack was still existed.
I'm pretty sure I still have it in my like trunk,
oh goodies. But yeah, so that it would just keep
going and just scan. You couldn't slow it down or

(20:21):
speed it up, but you could essentially create an s box.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
You know. So yeah, but I was, I wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Still am the nerd of the group, so you know,
speaking of nerds, So, as we mentioned before, you know
I was. I was stationed there in Charleston, so I
have a little bit of an idea of locations within
that area. Where are you are you willing to talk
or give away kind of where you start your tour downtown?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I'm very curious.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I actually kind of I don't want to say like
down myself on this because I do go to some
odd locations that the other typical ghost tours don't do.
I always like to say I'm not in the tourism industry.
I'm in the paranormal industry. That's the difference. I just
have to follow the tourism laws. But they do start
at a place called Big John's Tavern. I'm not sure

(21:14):
if you're familiar with that location. Oh mayn I no, Yeah,
East Bay Street. So it's kind of a it's an
odd location. It's actually our oldest tavern in Charleston, and
it's a great starting point just because it kind of
allows me to give that heated warning of like headaches, nausea,
dizziness can can be a thing throughout this, you know,
please let me know. But our first actual location is

(21:38):
somewhere you've probably walked past it thousands of times and
didn't realize even what it was because it stands today
as a parking lot, but it used to be the
Eliza and Charles Pinkney mansion.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Where is that parking lot?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's on East Bay Street.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
It's all on basil. Oh my gosh, yeah, there is.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
There's so much there, Like you can't throw a penny
and not hit a place that probably has some sort
of paranormal activity there. I mean, it's historically, historically it's
that way now now out in California, though I know
absolutely nothing about that part of the country and that
was all formed later. You know, everything started on the

(22:18):
East coast for our country and then shmeared its way
over there. So do you have you know, what is
kind of your locations historical not historical.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
So I actually my panormal scavenger hunt takes place on
one specific place, so it's basically a ghost hunt, like
a guided ghost hunt. I give the equipment out, I
teach them how to use it, and it's a Colorado
street bridge and Pasadena and it's known as Suicide Bridge,

(22:50):
So it's known that way because there's to date over
well over one hundred people that are registered as jumping
and I've gone through and basically like rummaged through news articles.
I think the last time I told Nick, I'm at
like one hundred and twelve documented that I have names, dates,

(23:13):
like details on so that as we investigate and we
get certain words and things, at the end of the night,
I'm able to give things back and say, hey, you
know what, guys like you got the word.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Oh, somebody said hi. My first tour, we got the
word Mason.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
And not only did I have like, you know Masons
that fell at the beginning when they were building the bridge.
I also have someone by the last name of Mason,
so then I get to give them back information.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Hey, this could refer to.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
These people or these people like it's really a cool
experience to be able to go back through and give
them that kind of information because it all ties together.
So I love my location. Hopefully, eventually, if things pick
up enough, I will do multiple locations and you know,
have pretty much the same ordeal for each one.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I love that that's and sadly there are those locations
I took our team to the there's one in Seattle
that's that way that has a very high count. Seems
to be a probability of it continuing to happen there
because it's the highest one in Seattle, and it's just
sadly enough, you know, they become paranormal hotspots because of.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
What happened there, so they raised emotion.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
People that have visited visited them them themselves, people coming
to look for them. It's a lot going on at
the same time. So I have another creep card for
you guys here. So when did you guys begin your
journey into paranormal research, Like how old were you if

(24:54):
you're willing to share.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
When the sea?

Speaker 5 (25:03):
I mean, I've always been into the paranormal. I did
not sleep as a child. I was always awake, and
like I lived in a haunted house and had no
idea when were years going. And my mom and I
one night, like she got up, opened my door and
watching TV. My brother's passed out like he always was,

(25:25):
and she's like, why have you been going to the
bathroom so much? Okay, Like, no, no, no, you went
to the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
I didn't do it.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
We slowly realized there was somebody else walking around the
hallway at night besides the two of us.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
So, and I didn't start actually like investigating getting into
it until two thousand and three. Okay, so I'd have
to I'd have to reverse math myself right now because
I have no idea how if someone took a year.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Is a year is good? Like when you started? Okay,
I get it. Well, what about you, Nick?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Can you kind of pinpoint when like your first I'll say,
not necessarily when you were interested in the paranormal, because
I think we're always there, but more like when would
bring you like this from here on forward, I was
paranormal researcher or an advocate of some kind.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I think it's the when I wrote my first book.
So I was eighteen years old when I wrote my
first book, like diving into the afterlife and starting to
realize like there was a lot more to it. It's
an awful book. It's available on Amazon and horrible. I
don't recommend anybody by it.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think I found your other books, but I was like,
he didn't mention them, so I'm not going to bring
them up.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
But I think from that point I just really just
could not like let go that I was eighteen. So
if we're gonna and that's going to be around, that
just twenty eight years ago, twenty seven years ago at
this point. So yeah, it's been a long time that
I've really been diving in. But it's been about fifteen

(27:03):
where I was hardcore equipment, need proof, need more, you know,
want to have conversations, and starting to realize it's not
the bullshit you find on supernatural and ghost adventures, you
know what I mean. It's like, this is real life
and these are things that happened and these were real people.
So that's that's where things kind of really took hold

(27:24):
was when I started working with Carl the psychic and
starting to see like putting the humanity behind death. I
know that that sounds a little bit on the morbid side,
but that's really I think what the sial needs is
the humanity behind it.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, I think that it just becomes an use the
you know, missed on the screen or voice in the machine,
and it's like that is some body at some point,
it was either someone who passed or someone who may
have came here because they were so distraught because of
someone who passed.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Like it's just there is a person that is attached
to whatever it is that you guys are hearing.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
And I think that that gets lost in the sauce
and that Yeah, I agree that that's very important to
put the humanity back in.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
And that's similar to me. I first time I ever.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Collected like officially collected evidence was like five and then
my team started in nine or eight eight, and that
was when we kicked off actually going on.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Investigations and researching and whatnot. Think when you're in it,
you're in it, you love it. You just can't help it.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, And this was I think I mentioned so what
was I know, we kind of went over what the
first time was.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Can you remember where your first location was that you
ever investigated, like official official, you.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Know, not like I was in my house, like you
went somewhere to try and collect evidence.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I remember the case okay, because it wasn't one specific
location because we had to put the case together, because yeah,
it involved multiple locations to debunk the myth of what
was going on, okay, and and it took multiple you
know locations to be able to do that. And that

(29:17):
was the story. Uh, Alice, Alice Flagg and Myrtle Beach.
You know, there's there's rumors about like how she died
and where she's buried in all of the glory Hollywood
bs that goes into this and just I mean no tools,
just psychics. Carl, you know, walking around with me and

(29:39):
literally was able to like pull me across town like
we were together, and he's like, we need to go
to this city. I don't know why, let's figure it out.
So we go to this part of the city and
like literally figured out like why we needed to be there,
like mad. Yeah, Carl is one of the very few
psychics that I trust that have that self proclamation of

(30:03):
I can see and feel spirit and he just has
so much intuition. There's not many that can actually do
that for me.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I mentioned that a lot too muggles around or or
my fellow teammates even or even online, and I think
that is a very unpopular opinion unfortunately. But there is
no way that if one hundred and fifty people all
say that they're mediums, that they're all mediums.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Like, statistically, that's not probable.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
And I had this conversation like in depth, in depth.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I'm glad you guys feel the same. I'm like, or
he's about to get real angry. I mean what I'm
about to say, but it sounds you know, if if
if Carl is tested, tried and true and and you've
one hundred percent, then then he's then that's one of them,
you know, Like but all these thousands of TikTok mediums
and automatic writers, and I'm like, you don't, that's not possible.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I see about five of those self proclaimed people per
week just on the tours. I'm an EmPATH, i am sensitive,
I'm a medium, I'm a psychic. Like, do you know
what you're telling me that you actually can do?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Right. Do you know what those words mean?

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Right?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
There's different abilities which eat each one of those. Can
you tell me which one specifically belongs to you?

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
So yeah, answers probably no.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Unfortunately, what about you, Josh, do you remember what your
very first case was?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
So I had to look it up. I did not
remember the name of it. So it's Brand a park
and it's unique. It's a park in Glendale and they
have a small gated cemetery.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Don't ask how I got in there.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
So yeah, cough cough.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
The owner, mister Brand, gave everything to the city, so
his house got turned into a library because it was
that large, and his cemetery cemetery still in the park,
and he is buried under a giant pyramid.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
So oh, really interesting. I saw some stuff on it
and I was like, I gotta go.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
So we went and we got absolute zilch in the cemetery,
and coming back down the trail, we found this little pocket,
like in the side of the mountain. It was bricked
off and it looked like a little brick chimney or something,
and it was right across from like a wash that
was going downhill to filter the rain water.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
And so I was like, screw it.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
So we went to an VP in there and that's
actually where I got like my first solid e VP
of a little girl's voice.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
So cool. What did it say? You remember?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
It's I To this day, I have not been able
to figure out what it says.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It is very a voice.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
It's definitely a voice. My my spouse. Actually she's bilingual.
I showed it to her and she's like, I think
it's Spanish, so oh so.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Could be Spanish or Portuguese. Then they're very similar.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, she thinks it's got something says something about
like sister, like revenge or something like that.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
So very very interesting.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
I'm gonna have to go back at some point try
and get in there properly.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I love EVPs, do I I love when equipment goes off,
but it's it could be an anomaly, it could be something,
you know, whatever. But when you get an actual voice
of something and you can make out exactly what they say,
or even now you're still trying to figure out exactly
what they say, Like you mentioned, Nick, it's like this
is this is now a piece of human evidence, you know,

(33:44):
it's this is now a voice, which I love. And
that was the first time I ever went out. We
just went because most most of the time it's a cemetery.
Most people their very first time it's a cemetery, it's public,
you can get in, they have all kinds of crazy hours.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's usually a.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Fairly easy place to go. And that was it was
a memorial cemetery. And I'm we got two men's, two men,
and the one said what did y'all do to this place?
And the other one closer you could tell there was distance,
and the second one's quiet or said don't you touch her?
And we didn't know we got it till we got

(34:21):
home because we were driving around in the car listening
and my friend and I were listening, and all of
a sudden we both like popped up at the same
time listening and and it was still to this day.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Oh, it gives me goose bums just thinking about.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
It, because it was because you didn't You didn't realize
just how close they were. The window was down, there's
nobody out there, you know. It's I said, I love
EVPs love love love, and you.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Never realized that.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's For the longest time, I thought, well, you're not
going to get activity at a cemetery and I actually
had a local historian he runs Columbus Ghost Tours buck
he cut right.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
He had a great explanation.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
It was, well, well, you know, it's not necessarily who
died that you're getting. And think about all the emotion
you have where the family is there crying or they're mad,
or they're happy or whatever. There's a lot that's going
on at a cemetery that isn't necessarily just the dead people.
I was like, I don't know why I didn't dawn
on me for the last twenty years, but it made

(35:21):
a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah. I usually make the comment, you know, because I
know what the name of my company is. It's what
draws people to take the tour, right. I usually tell
them like, we're not going to be visiting cemeteries because
people don't stare at their headstones, and when we do
get something from a cemetery, it's going to be too
indiscernible for us to be able to figure out where
it's actually going. Right, and my headphones just went out.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I can hear you exa well, while while he figures
that out, we will will keep going talking.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, Nick makes a fair point. I mean I investigated
a cemetery. We had a Jewish cemetery and a Christian
cemetery right across from each other. And that's actually one
of the places I used to because they used to
do kind of like paranormal tours prior to and I
did that for a long time, and one of the
locations we'd hit was actually those dual cemeteries. And it's

(36:17):
funny because we actually got a lot more in the
Jewish cemetery where it seemed to be actual people that
we were able to actually track to a head snote.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
And I love and that's that's what we were able
to do with those two gentlemen. We went exact back
exactly where we parked, and we part and we looked
down and sure enough there were two gentlemen. It said
where they were from. You know that they were both military,
right next to each other because it's the Memorial cemetery,
so they're all flat, there's no like three D stones,

(36:47):
and it like, we're like.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
It has to be.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I mean, it doesn't have to be, but it's a
high probability that it's these two gentlemen that we might
have been talking to. So and it makes sense military
guys from different areas of the country talking to one another.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
It all made sense. So now we're.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Gonna talk about your books. So I love these. I
dove into them right away after the little kerfluffle of
them getting to me, I dove into them. So the
first one we have is the Paranormal Investigators Almanac, and
that stories in the cemetery. You'll see there's a couple
Nick and Josh right there with some other authors. Now

(37:28):
the research and this experimentation you guys do. So while
I find this, can you guys talk talk to me
about this, tell everybody what this is.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Okay, I can handle this, Josh. So technically, like the
workbook that you held out is actually where everything started. Okay, yeah,
So the workbook run or third year of that. So
the workbook was designed because at the end of a
paranormal investigation with my muggles, I would always get the

(38:02):
question of, well, how haunted was this? So I didn't
have answers for those people, so I designed a way
to be able to tell them. So it was a
lot of I would say probably between four to six
months of testing different weights and measures for all of
the different equipment versus communication. Was a visual you know,
how real time was this moment for us? Was it

(38:25):
something found after the fact, How long did it last?
And then I had to look at the time spent
because I was gaging it not only against the tours,
but a lot of against the paranormal television shows, you know,
and some of those take, you know, a full week
to get you know, a forty five minute episode. So
I had to kind of monitor, like, how much time
are they spending in all of their investigation in order

(38:48):
to get what they're giving back to us, and then
kind of see how it measures up against my scores.
So I found that most of your paranormal TV show
episodes fell in the average to below average of my scores.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Of course, of.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Course, so it seemed to be working. So I created
a worksheet for my guests. At the end of the night,
I literally come back here to the office and I
have that worksheet in my computer and I just fill
it in with all of their media and the data
that I find, plus the notes from the real time fines,
and they get the report back by three am, like

(39:25):
I have it such and it's all spot checked, so
I'm not going through all eight to fifteen hours worth
of their media but at the very top of it
are the parameters of like the conditions of their investigation
the moon phase. You know, right now, I'm tracking things
of a project for Josh on UV spectrum. Next month,

(39:46):
I'm going to be looking at hurts and sound waves
and what am I using to try to invoke more
activity through which different you know, set of hurts, what
works better? But all of those things are measured at
the top and at the end of the month, I
just decided, let me put these in charts and see
if the moon phase actually has an effect on you.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Know, are you know, please tell me it does.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Full moons are the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
And that's actually part of the reason of how Josh
and I met, because his theory on UV light hurting
you know, anything spiritual or supernatural in that fashion goes
in line with if a full moon is out, I'm
probably going to have a much lower score.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
So it just depends on spooky as it is, kids,
it's not going to help.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
You so and surprisingly, you know, even last night, I
mean we had a new moon, which means we were
at zero percent. The moon was not visible at all,
and what I saw in real time. I was kind
of like expecting, you know, a below average, but once
I did my spot check, it actually went into that
average type of night on the higher end of things,

(40:56):
which I was like, okay, it's falls in line again.
But that's where the almanac came in from. Josh came
up with and I kind of joked around. I was like,
this should be an almanac, you know, just like a
farmer's almanac, and he's like, uh, yeah, we should do
that right away, Like let's get started. He's like, you
already have the charts. We can get some articles in
there to try to help other investigators, like look at this,

(41:17):
you know, away from the wu wu side of things
and give them the science and then.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Look at these look at these charts. Guys.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
If you're tuning in, you really need to go check
out go check out the video if you can. Then
I'm showing this on because this is also an audio podcast. Afterwards.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I mean, I must have carried this book around for
at least a week in my work bag and then
home bag, and then it was next to my nightstand
because I was reading out of it and picking through
scientific figures. Yeah, it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Well, the investigation workbook is truly for after your investigation
is over. Mm hmm. But the Almanac is for before
your investigation because you can go through those charts and
look at the parameters and instead of you know, some
of these places that are allowing you know, paranormal teams
to come in for a night and you pay the
fee and whatever, they're like, Okay, we got this date ready.

(42:12):
What if that date's going to be shit? Go to
the almanac and find out like.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Like no, I don't want to come.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, the moon phase isn't right, that date isn't right.
Then nothing lines up, you know. And I hate to say,
like some of the things that we're measuring right now,
like we were, I was measuring k index for a while.
You know. K index are solar flares from the Earth
that kind of are from the Sun down to the
Earth that can raise EMF around the Earth. So I
was measuring that to see if that had an effect,

(42:40):
and it turns out there was no difference, so I
just took it out of the charts onto the next
you know, there's just some things where I have an
idea about or Josh might have an idea about where
it's going. To be great for the first couple of
weeks while we're gauging things and it's new and exciting.
But afterwards it could be great, it could suck. We
don't know, and that's the beauty of this.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I truly wish that girls investigating ghosts in the supernatural
could have had this workbook when we started, like we
did all kinds of locations out in Washington State, and
it was it was I was the one who went
I went through evidence and things like that, but we
were trying to figure out a way to determine the
level of activity, you know, like this, exactly this, exactly this,

(43:22):
And I wish teams could have had this a long
time ago. So shame on you for not inventing this sooner.
I could have used this in like, oh nine, okay
to this.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I mean, if we watch any any video, any TV show,
any ghosts, any kind of promotion for ghosts of any
sort in the paranormal, everything's the most haunted. Everything.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh it always is class A most haunted. Like come on,
there's no such thing. That's not how that works.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Not enough of those city scores out there for them
to say this gets this score above average. Every single time, therefore,
we must love it the most haunted Again. To me,
it just doesn't make any sense. Why would we call
something the most haunted?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I just say this, it makes you feel good.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, well it gets you know, gets the ratings up.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I'm not here for ratings. I'm here for the legitimacy
of what are we doing out here? Are you looking
for the false demon? Are we trying to learn this
person's history to see if they're actually haunting the space on?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Everything's a demon? Ah?

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Hot, take everything's a demon, right, it's a demon. It's
an elemental, it's an elemental, it's a demon.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Or it came from a portal. That's yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Against that one too, But every my gosh, yes I
will and I will never do a public investigation again
after the last the last one I did, because every
first of all, people come from all over, they have
all different things that they think are okay. They they
either egg on a spirit.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
That they truly don't know what it is, because you
really never know one hundred percent ever, which is crazy,
but you don't, and or they're just that's exactly what
it is. Everything is a demon, Mike, You're a demon?
Can we stop.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Crazy. Part of the what I've noticed, like through the
reviews of people, you know, the muggles that leave after
the tour, it's always about the respect that was shown
to the history and the ghosts that were there. So
I mean, I'm recording this thing for these people from
start to finish with a voice recorder that just stays
on my shoulder. So's I mean, just the mumbles of

(45:29):
all right, good night, Eliza, I'll see you again tomorrow,
you know. And I do it with every single location.
I'm not talking to my guests and showing off. It's
the respect factor of what I'm giving to the spirits
that are here, because.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
It's not dance monkey dance, like, that's not what this is. Yeah, see,
you and I have very ball you both of you
very similar. I drys me crazy then that that's what
you see, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Dance on this coin right now. I want you to
do this. I want you to do that.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Well here's my cat ball can you.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I have them, but because I got I got them
because I was like, what is this bs?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
You know, I'm like barely move and they Yeah, it's
a it's a toy.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
It's a toy.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
There's been a couple of times where I've seen somebody
else use them. I'm like, okay, I can't. I can't
nay say that away. But that's one time, you know
that's my opinion. Yeah, okay, So now I have I
have a couple more questions. Hopefully this doesn't bring out
any shenanigans, paranormal pet feeds, no, or I could ask

(46:42):
you what this well, what did you say the other day?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
What the scariest place is that? What you said? You
don't like? Yeah, I don't like that question either.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Like okay, so, uh, we understand, you know, the need
for a gear like.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
The let's the SB seven, SB eleven. You know, we
understand that.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
But for the paracurious persons out in the public, they
want to download a word generator app, okay, such as
the spirit Talker, necrometer, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
What are your thoughts on those in a brief way?
And do you have one that you suggest for on
the go?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Josh, I gotta steal this one again, man, you know
this is what we all. He's like, Oh, so I
have tested I will say a good sixty to seventy
percent of these apps that are out there in the field.
I mean that, and for your listeners watchers, like, that's
the beauty of I don't want to say like what

(47:46):
I do. But I'm literally out here every day. So
if I have something new to job, I can do right,
I can go and I'm out there in an actual
haunted space and i want to test something out. You know,
I'm working with a few app developers right now testing
their stuff kind of thing. But yeah, I've tested a
good sixty to seventy percent of them, most of them,
I'm not impressed. And I'm a writer. We've already discussed this.

(48:09):
I need words. I need a lot of them. I'm
sure you've seen my one TikTok video about the largest
word bank that's out in the market right now, and
it comes from Post Hunting Tools. Yep, that's the name
of it. Okay, I use it every night. It is
a staple in my tour and it's usually a and

(48:30):
it's about twenty percent accurate if you're using a spirit
box along with it, so it's almost supplemental. It's not
a face value tool, none of them are. A spirit
box alone isn't a face value tool. You need something
to back it up.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Multiple, it's that samples. It's like any experiment. If you
have a sample size there's only three in it. You know, well,
it's not going to give you good data. You know,
sure you're going to get data, but it's not going
to be good data. I know personally. The Spirit Talker
by Spotted Ghost is one that I've had, I use,
I still have. I think it's more for curiosity out
in the out in the public.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
You're just like, let's see what it says.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
It turns into like a spectacle versus you know, we're
using this for a legit thing.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I've seen it be legit one time, somebody was using it.
Because I've got a lot of my guests that will
use this stuff on their phones. They'll like, do you
mind if I run this and it's your night, I
do this shit?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Do it right?

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, let's see what happens. I've seen it literally give
us that Big John that I told you about earlier.
It actually gave the exact year of when he started
playing with his football team, and it gave us the
name of the team immediately after before I even mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
So I was like, huh, You're like, okay, huh, yeah,
you can't.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
I mean, nineteen forty seven. That's a very specific, fucking
specific if yeah, you know what I mean. Like I
was kind of like, okay, because when I started with
the story there, they're like, what year did you just say?
I'm like, nineteen forty seven New York Timeiens and there
they literally brought up their phone, no scrolling, just handed
it to me and lo and behold, nineteen forty seven

(50:08):
Giants was on there. I was like, wow, first time
I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Actually anything, Like what if I use it?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I take it off the I put it on airplane
mode and no Wi Fi so that I can't pick
up anything extra.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
But you're still just gonna get garble. You're never gonna
get it.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
His football team is really not relatable to the bar.
I mean the bar was established fifty five, so that
that would be a year it would pick up from
Wi Fi or you know that type of you know,
doing a oh you're at this location.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I guess not gonna put up forty seven totally random.
I love that. That's the good. I mean that one
would be hard to like.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
It went in the city score that night, like one
of those Ango down Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ghost hunting tools
is the one that I use every single night as
ninety one hundred words in it. Twenty percent supplemental, not
a face value tool.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Right, Okay, I love that. And then because some of
these we've we've answered as we went. So this is
the last creep card that I have. So you're on
an impromptu investigation, you're not working. This is for you,
not for them. What two pieces? Only two of equipment?
Can you and you can only take two? Would you grab.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Josh? You first already got my answer.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Mm hmm, that's a that's a toughy.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I know there's a lot, but if you were you
could only fit it in a bag, you know, like
at your side, you only take two, What would you
feel like?

Speaker 5 (51:45):
I would take a I would take I'd probably take
the S box and a thermal camera.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Oh that's a good one. I didn't even think about
the camera.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Mind have some audio and you got to have a camera.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
And yeah, my mind, thermal is better than IR ultra
violet cameras for full spectrum because thermal is the closest
we get to seeing in e MF. So that's that's
my camera of joys.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
And then Josh are not Josh. I'm getting YouTube confused, Nick,
What about you?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
So what was your answer?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
So my two pieces?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Oh yeah, the Ghost Center? What was it again?

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Oh I didn't say what they were.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Oh I thought you did. Okay.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
I told Josh to go first because I already knew
what mine were.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I wanted to which knew that's what I heard.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Okay, my two pieces are identical. I'm going to take Yeah,
so one's going to run on slow and one's going
to run on fast, and I am going to record
both of them and compare the notes later.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I did not expect that, Okay, I love.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
I'm a communications person. Josh is the visual, so I
you know, I have to have that communication, and I
will research whatever I get out of either one of
those and analyze any disembodied if they do come through.
But I also look at radio chatter. What radio chatterer
did you get?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
And your that is at such a good point is
I think you can have three investigators and each one
will favor a different thing that they are aiming for,
Like you said, one's one's words, one's visual, ones like fields,
you know, like that kind of thing. They want to
see the equipment, do its thing.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, well I love that all.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Right, two pieces? Which which two of them? You said,
which ones?

Speaker 3 (53:49):
The s B They're the S box. It's the only
one that records.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Oh, the red one right, yeah, I have one of those.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Okay, only one on the market there records itself. And
you can leave it on mute, so they can both
be in my pocket and I can just go enjoy
whatever the space is and you don't have.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
To sit there listening to it. Oh man, I have
that was something.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I was reading the article in the Almanac about the
S S method, and I have my brain has such
a hard time with that noise. I am yet to
hear voices like doing it. I am yet to hear
any voices. I think my brain's broken.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Use the radio chatter, you will have a totally different
mindset of listening to the radio chatter on the slowest
sweep than you would just like noise listening for disembodied EVPs.
You'd be really surprised what you can learn about your
spirit by using radio chatter.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Because that like the constant that I have. It's like
it's like I can't focus.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Are that's a weird feelings You can get to do
that like to cut that out m and they make
like the honey tone and all that, and those are
more the more expensive versions. Nick, I believe you made
a video the other day talking about something much cheaper.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah, my Hobey's building a Spirit portal and it has
like gates that cuts that off something like that.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Well, the adjustable noise control of the problem with that
in the ES this method is you're going to have
like empty spaces where you're going to be able to
hear your interviewer, and you don't want that. Like, I
don't recommend using the A and C devices for an
ESTES method.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Right, they're separate.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I was just it's yeah, I know he's working on
it similar, but yeah, specifically.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
An C or the little A and C mini that
you can attach to the S box or onto the
SB seven.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Like they have to try that and slow it down
because it's I'm I have I have incredible hearing and
it's just very sensitive where I'm like, I can't this.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Is too much questions. It's not like you don't know
how to get ahold of us. I get questions about
the slow down method all the time just because it's
so odd, Like I have it.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I just that's what I need to do. I have
not tried that.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
And then they put you I went on investigation with
my buddies what goes bump in the night here at
post Town Elementary that place, I will say, like the
minute we started, every like things were popping all night long.
I'm like, what is going on here? I haven't been
in a place like that in a while. But they
put They're like, here, try this. I'm like, okay, get
it off me. I can't do it anymore so before before,

(56:25):
Now that I've I've asked all my questions, I want
to make sure I show off these one more time.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Now.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
If you are in the paranormal weird world, or if
you are just a person who enjoys reading facts and
things about the paranormal, It's it's not a very big book,
but there's.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
A lot in here. I even even if you just
enjoy the articles.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Josh your article about the uv rays loved it, the
one about the Appalachian Dos and don'ts loved it. Estes
method loved it. So I highly suggest that you guys
pick this up. The links are either in the uh
for for sure, in the show notes. But I try
to continuously have them in the comments as well. And

(57:08):
then this is the workbook that Nick was talking about.
There's a lot of pages in here, so it's not
like you're gonna buy it and use it once. This
one is another one.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
So buy them. I strongly suggest getting them both so
that you can do your do your.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Thing less than the cost of a rimpod. So before
you buy another damn rim pod. That's that's kind of
my stick with that, like tools you can actually use
instead of just another duplicate to have another rampod in
another room.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
If that's not something that needs to go on a sticker.
For the price of another rampod, you could own the
Paranormal Almanac.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
But before we sign off today, I always give my
guests a chance to kind of once again shout out
who they are and where they people can find them
in about their book things.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Of that nature.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
So Nick, why don't you, Why don't you go first
and tell everybody once again who you are and where
they can find you.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
All right, So, Nicholas McGerr, I'm owner of Stone Storage Stoners. Wow,
listen to me. I'm ready for a tour tonight. Story
stories in the Cemetery, and the website is pretty much
the hub for everything. So Stories in the Cemetery dot com.
You can book your tours there, find all of my

(58:23):
fiction and non fiction books. There, notes from the podcast
with me and Josh, and it's the same name, and
it's available on every platform you know. iHeart Spotify, Apple,
you name it. We're on everything, and then of course
on socials. Everything is at Stories in a Cemetery. I
try to make it as simple as possible. The biggest

(58:44):
following is going to be on TikTok. That's where I
post a lot of the tutorials in the non hate
videos as Noel called them. Yeah, I do post a
lot about like things that we should be looking at
in the field versus all of the woo woo. You're
not gonna find any evidence for me on any social
media platform. It's all tutorials and mindset and questions. And

(59:06):
that's kind of like the route that I like to
take with this. So yeah, TikTok is usually the where
you can find me the most.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
What about you, Josh tell us, so pretty much the
same thing. I mean, aim in Parormal research dot com.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
All social media is at aim in paranormal research. You
can find my book on Amazon called Tales from a
Ghost Center, and that's just real life accounts of like
experiences I've had on investigations. And again TikTok, TikTok is
my strongest following, and I do a lot of experiments,

(59:42):
like I actually set up an experiment the other day
on camera and put it on TikTok, showing how my
theory works and showing that I can ionize ultraviolet light.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
You know, are using ultraviolet light.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
And I even dug further into it, figured out that
I'm using the wrong word for one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
And so it's it's science you learn.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Yeah, I'm continuing to dig farther and farther into it.
So a lot of people are finding that really interesting.
I talk a lot about my theories about EMF and
spirit and how that works. So if you guys are
interested in getting a little farther into the equipment side
of that and a little more into the science of that,
I strongly recommend following me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
So don't know it all, but I try.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
No one knows it all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
It's okay, And all of their their social takes for
both of them are in the show notes if you
guys are listening to this in the future on the
actual podcast, you guys can stop over at creepy confidential
dot com and actually watch the actual visuals to what
you're hearing so that you can see Nick and Josh
their pretty faces in person. And with that, I think

(01:00:56):
I have kept them long enough. I want to thank everybody.
Thank everybody for stopping in, and by all means, please
catch the replay. Go to creepyconfidential dot com for any
additional creepy content, and thank you Josh, thank you, Nick,
very very happy. Thank you, and until next time, creeps,

(01:01:19):
stay creepy and we'll catch you next time right here
on Creepy Confidential.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Bye.