After Dark with Toxic Icon

Recorded : March 28th, 2025
Let's give a huge creepy welcome to Toxic Icon! Toxic Icon consists of the dynamic duo Nick White and Yerrty G, a pair of haunt actors from St Louis Missouri specializing in life and culture in the haunt and horror industry.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Sucker and welcome to Creepy Confidential after Dark. I'm Noel,
the weirdo wisconsinit and host of Creepy Confidential. I want
to start by thanking the creep Nation for tuning in tonight.
Very important because I have some great guests for you.
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(01:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:31):
We want you.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
There, and we want Creepy Confidential to be your one
stop shop for all your creepy content. Now, just to
remind everybody, the Library Lectures Tour is taking off finally
next month with Paranormal one oh one, the very first
stop Appleton, Wisconsin, of course because I am a Wisconsinite now.

(01:55):
Paranormal one oh one covers types of hauntings, types of entities,
and the methods of investigation, as well as the Golden
rules of ghost hunting or what I think is the
top one, two, and three of those golden rules. Tickets
are free, but seating.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Is limited, so you must have a ticket. Very important.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
They're very exclusive Columbus is already sold out and Appleton
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tickets if you're in Appleton, Wisconsin. Now after Dark is
a place for us here at Creepy Confidential to introduce
guests and to discuss.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Anything in the fringe and for Teaan world.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's our chance to learn and talk shop with our
fellow creators, and it gets kind of gets us a
chance so that we can talk about the world of
weird and lower that veil. But in the real world, Tonight,
Creepy Confidential welcomes toxic Icon.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Toxic Icon is the duo made up of Nick White
and Urdi g. These hot actors are from Saint Louis, Missouri. Now,
these guys specialize in life and culture in the haunt
and horror communities. I cannot wait to talk to them
and talk shop about their experiences and what creeps out

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the creepers very important. So tonight also questions are going
to be answered from our creep nation and also from
the toxic Icon family as well. So make sure you
leave a comment, speak up and say it in front
of the whole class, and then watch that screen because
your comment may be featured. So, without further ado, onto

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the show.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Subcreeps, and welcome to Creepy Confidential. Is Mothman really a
supernatural force predicting impending doom? Did Apollo eleven really land
on the moon in nineteen sixty nine? Did you find
out if that was a cult that was living just
two doors down that you wave to every single day

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when you got your mail. If these are the things
you ponder when you should be sleeping, then I would
like to welcome you to Creepy Confidential. I'm your host, Noel,
you're resident Weirdo Wisconsin. I I open case files on
my favorite cryptids, cults, conspiracies, and other worldly creepy with

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new cases, live broadcasts, and local lore. Some stories have
been lost with time, others are perhaps still happening today
in your local communities, right up under your very creepy noses.
So get ready, creeps, it's Creepy Confidential. Subcreeps, Welcome back everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now. If you'll notice we have one of them in
the shadows, we can think lighting for that, but welcome. Welcome.
Nick and yerdie G of Toxic Icon.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Hello, Oh what up?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Who do we have on camera?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
My gosh? He had to. He had to anybody who
doesn't like clowns. What's up? What's up?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Show?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I am so stoked to have you guys now in
my house, which I am very excited for.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Now, people that are tuning in, right, this is my house.
This is the Creep, the Creep's house, Queen Creep, if
you will.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Now, if you've been watching our feeds, you may have
noticed that I was over on their channel not too
long ago talking about the paranormal, bringing a little bit
of information, a little bit of cool creepy stories. And
now it's their turn. I have my handy dandy cards
with all kinds of interesting questions. We're going to be

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watching the comments and I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So before we get going, though, guys, tell us a
little bit about yourselves. How how is this you know? World?
And what what did you start?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Heard me take it away?

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Okay? All right, so oh pretty much. It's pretty much
Nick and I we we are both hont actors. I
appreciate that. I don't feel famous, but I appreciate that
ghost dog. But yeah, we're both hont actors. At the
darkness out here in Saint Louis. I've known Nick for it.

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I honestly don't even know how many years.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's just good buddies. That just feels like forever, right.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, he came in as I was on my way
out the door to go work at our sister Hauntling Brewery.
Then I came back twenty eighteen and we started the
whole We started our version of the icon squad that
we currently have outside now. Okay, and fast forward to
twenty twenty three. We had a conversation about what we

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wanted to do and then it just took off from there.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yeah, okay, definitely, it really has taken off in a
different trajectory. I think Yerdy and I always challenge each
other to come up with more out of this world ideas.
We don't want to do anything that is in the box.
I feel like a yeardy. If you disagree, please let

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me know. But I feel like you and I definitely
think as fast as we can and then we will
scale back depending on where we really are as a platform.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, that's true, and.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
That's kind of how we come up with just some
of the really cool things. But none of it would
have happened if we hadn't, you know, been in the
trenches together in the Haunted House.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
You know we really uh we put in our time,
was still putting in our time. You know. It definitely
has pooled as to where we are.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, super cool, that's I think because it's off and
maybe you have friends and you're into totally different things.
So it's cool that you guys are have something very
big and important. So oh, we got icon Nation. I
see it, Miss Joanna. Now, Miss Joanna, guys, you guys
will giggle. Joanna, I'm enjoying.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
My iced coffee beverage delicious.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
That's rights enjoying her ice coffee. I have to with
heavy scream.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Please, it's called that trolling.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Well yeah, coffee with heavy screams.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So yeah, so because it is, it's iced coffee with
heavy screams. Now I have to show up.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
We went to Horror Coon last weekend and I joined
them as they were walking around. I kept walking around
while they stepped out, and I have this super cool
tiki glass but it has a dark theme. It says
catch a grave, and I have to give them a
shout out because everything they had was so cool. In
case you guys see it, and it is the Black
Room in Milwaukee, and it's awesome.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
So that's what I'm that's my cool beverage. So Anie
husel back to creepy stuff, shall we? I had to
give them a shout out. I promised I would, so
tonight I have put together some questions and these are
new for the people who are here that are return customers.
And I think that this is a good little change

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because the cool part is is we have something in common.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I myself used to be a Haunt actor as well.
Now it's been.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
A very long time, but I can at least have
I've done a couple locations, a bunch of characters. I
hopefully have that in common with you guys. So I
want to get to my first question.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Now, what made.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You guys want to become specifically a Haunt actor, like,
not to own one, but to be an actor?

Speaker 4 (09:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
So the story is kind of similar for both of us.
We had we had a hunt experience and it just
kind of it pushed the drive.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
M controlling it pushed the drive anyway.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yeah, it did push the drive because I was I
was twelve years old. I went to ironically a hunt
at our boss now owns Terra Visions. But before it
was even connected to the darkness, and it just it
scared the life out of me because I felt like
I had no control over my life at that point

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in time. But also I saw how much fun the
actors were happened that I just I needed to do it.
So I went to auditions every single year after that.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Just trying to trying to get in. I'm gonna sit
back here, I gotta get into this.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I will say for me, So.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Coming up as a kid, I actually always had a
love for roller coasters. That was my first true passion.
And so you know, with roller coasters, you're you're in
and out of the theme parks.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I went to.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Fright Fest and six Flags Saint Louis a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
And as a kid, was very intense, and I was
chased by an actor.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
As I was chased by the actor, and as I
was truly, you know, being very scared. The atmosphere that
was around the park, the purple and pink lighting, the
fog in the air, just that that I'm Beyonce that
Halloween gives off. We fell in love with what an

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attraction can do when it pulls that vibe.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
And so with that, I just.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Continue to go to fright Fest and as I got older,
I started to venture out and go to a lot
of more independent hunt at houses and things like that,
and I just kind of fell in love with the
atmosphere surrounding it. Just people are there to have a
good time, you have, they're scared. But also there are
people behind these attractions that have truly sat down and
have created these immersive environments with just you know, ideas, just.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Engineered it, engineered it out.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, and that and that's really what That's what made
me want to act obviously, and maybe you want to
own my own hunter House one day, but you don't
just get there without putting on a costume, you know,
you have you got to work your way up to that.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yep, exactly, I see it.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I've so you guys started with the attraction and
for for me, I think, I mean, guys haven't known
me lan, but I've been this way forever. I've been
weird and into the strain. I'm not super goffy, like
the like traditional golf looking, but I think my mentality
is a little bit. So I've always like the minute

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Halloween was put in front of me as a little.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Kid, I was like, that was it. That was it.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I can build costumes, I can be characters. I can
get out of this dorky Wisconsin, you know, muggled day life,
and and I was.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I was hooked.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
So I always I find it interesting kind of where
everybody starts in the scale.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Wiskans and what's that? Yeah, now that was you.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
You mentioned this a little bit because you mentioned your age.
So this question is, uh, when did you first get
into the haunt scene? And I wrote age and I
even wrote a little note because you've mentioned that before
that you were twelve. You were super duper young, and
you know, like for me, I was in the eighth grade,
so that's not not much thereafter for the haunted hay rides.
So yeah, that's I mean, that's young.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
What about you, Nick?

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Ironically enough, it was twelve. Ye I was in the
sixth grade.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
When our brain starts to.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
It's when you start to realize just there's you know,
some mills. To go back to that Fryfest story, To
be honest with you, I was at six Flags during
the day.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I didn't even know not that I didn't know what.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Fryfest was, but I paid the decorations around the park
during the day, no attention I had no idea what
was gonna happen when the sun with them.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
They had a fright Fest in Tacoma, Washington when I
lived out there. I did not act at that particular
one in a different place, but the Fryfest there was
done pretty well. It was done at it's like a
theme park. It's like it's kind of like a six Flags.
I can't remember Enchanted Forest or something like that, but
they did. They always hung this huge spider from the
side of the roller coaster you could see from the highway.

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I was like, oh, I love it. So so it
seems like we're all in the same wheelhouse. Probably different backgrounds,
maybe how we grew up and what we you know,
how we acted, but it seems like same same time frame.
Uh So, speaking of attractions, that's where I had. That's
why I did this one. So what was your first

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official haunt attraction? So not like you know, a backyard
or a haunted hay ride like I did. What was
your first attraction? And two part question, do you remember
what character you played.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Either one of you?

Speaker 4 (15:25):
For me, it was the.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Darkness the Haunted House that that I currently shed blood,
sweat and tears for. I was absolutely. I was in
a robe.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I remember. I think they had me dressed.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
As like a monk of some sort, you know, like
a scary monk of some recollection.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Our first floor at.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
The Haunted House has always been themed to be more
of like a let's say, if Indiana Jones met True Horror,
so very long.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, oh my god, I need that movie.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Like I've never seen all the Indiana Jones movies, but
I know the like, but I don't don't come for me.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
My husband's going to be like you need to say them.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
But the parts that I have seen, like the whole
pulling out of the heart and all that that was like,
and the eating of the monkey brains that was like.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
That was horror level. That wasn't just a venture level.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
And I feel like that's probably where they got some
of the inspiration from.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
But either way, that.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
That was my My first attraction was was my home
hunt that I'm currently at, and that was kind of
the character that I played.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, okay, I would say Indiana Jones Temple of Doom.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, that one's because that's the one right where they're
like and the blood and everything.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah, that's the one. I don't know his nationality. So
I'm just going to say South American, which the South
American little boy, and he's like.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know, mm hmm, I know exactly what You're like.
I haven't seen, like you said, all of them in
their entirety, but I have, like I've seen enough where
I'm like, that was part of Scary Yes, what and
soy you did that was the same attraction?

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Did the same Yeah, so my first one, you guys
were together. Yeah, my first one was the Darkness because ironically,
so things have changed now because you know, there's more
attractions like further out west and further south and all
of that. But uh, like, at the time that I started,
our boss aka the owner Larry, he owned every hundred

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house in the same little area, and at the time
it was it was the Darkness. It was a Creepy World,
which at the time was called scream World.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
And then Tombstone.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, Tombstone, which is out an imperial but he brought
Tombstone out the Creepy World and made the hay Ride
attraction because as a standalone it didn't get in a foot.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Traffic, Okay, I think because it's almost like if the
fiend's not right or the like they don't do enough
publicity or it's just in the wrong spot like that.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
What it was in the wrong location because it was
it was like south County Saint Louis, but like further
south where like know what I'm talking about, where there's
houses one house every two miles.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh my gosh, yeah, like rural.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, so apparently the little boy in Indiana, Jones was Asian.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Okay, I didn't want to say the wrong thing because
you know, we're in that time where people get upset.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, this is my channel. We can be wrong. It's okay.
It doesn't mean we're being eightful.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah I can't count right, all right, go ahead, But yeah,
it made me, It made me remember because that was
like the first the first big one is I think
the one that sticks with you most is that, you know,
like cause you're you're not a small scale, you're not
small fry. And and now I look back and the

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one it's called the Fright Factory, and I think it's
out and Buckley, which was also it's also a rural area.
But when I was first out there, it was it
felt small, but it's had really good trap like lots
of people coming through it and now it's like the
ones that you guys do where it has the animatronics
and this and that, and I remember it was it

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had a couple makeup artists, airbrush, basic appliances, and it
was all about costumes and lightning and rooms like design.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
So it was it's always wild.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
That was where I think I've mentioned it before, the
one with the fire and the skin falling off. That
was my first big yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. People are
afraid of getting burned alive. Myself included.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
In all the time on a burn a face.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yes, oh boy. Okay, so I have speaking of hot moments.
So what was your of your of your years now
doing it, because it sounds like you guys have been
doing it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
For quite some time. What is your proudest actor moment?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
And this is like, you know, was it that you
got into a location, was it that you built this
certain character?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
It can be anything like that, Like what's your proudest moment?

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Okay, I got it?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
You got it, all right, you go first.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
So for me, uh, my second year already square up.
So my my second year, I won Actor of the Year.
I won Best Makeup of the Season also, so there
self applied.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
You did that like you created it.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Yeah, and this is like this is pre silicon mask,
right because now you can't pay me to word.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Makeup people like I don't want to do that.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
There there was so much. There was so much that
I was taught from my superior, so like they taught
me how to apply oatmeal to the late tics fall
up dude like that and.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You got to pull that to ply apart though.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Exactly and use ridgie clouding as well.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
There's so many cool tricks, like people don't realize, and
then they're fairly simple tricks, but the result.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Exactly, something so small could go a long way, can
go along.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I love.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I still like using oatmeal in latex if I have
to do something that needs that that texture. People don't
even and you can grind it up if you want
different textures.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh my god, don't get me going about scare makeup.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
What about you?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Proudest modest actor moment?

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Honestly, my proudest actor moment would be when I got
the green light to join the Outside crew as a
as a Q line actor, you know, And I want
to before I even go into my my story about this,
for any hunters that watch this. A lot of people

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feel that being in the Q line means that you're.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Better than everybody or that.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
You have this like, you know, egotistical thing above everybody
else inside. Yeah, and uradianized main goals to make sure
everybody feels unified.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
You know.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
We sure we're out there, but we want to get
people ready to see the show, you know. And for me,
when I started at the hunt House, I think I
acted inside for shoot six seven years before I finally
got the nod, and I have been trying even when
I came into it. But you got to know, when
I came into it, I had no idea that that

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was something you worked your way up to. So I
have been told, well, if you want to go outside,
we need to see you act all around the Hunting House.
We want to see our versatile you are. Can you
improve vice? How can you know? Can you think on
the fly and things.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Like that, because it's just.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Like yeah, And when they finally gave me a chance,
they said, just you know, just to let you know
this really isn't like being inside. And me, my head
was big at the time. I was like, I'm going out.
When I tell you, I walked around the corner and
saw a thousand people in the line with their phones
on record and no, there's no scenes, no props, it's you.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And whatever you have on your body. Yeah, and so
I had to go amazing.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yeah, and my first night I said, I wasn't that good.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
And then uh, I was like, don't don't put me
in yet, give me another night. Went out there the
other night and started to you know, you don't get
it without just being thrown out there. So that was
a proud act, remember, because it did show me that
I was trusted. You know, you want to feel that
from your management.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
And that's I think that's especially I think it's worse
today because people are so flaky and if you do
get that like Stamp and you're vetted and their trust you.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
To do that, that's huge. That is huge. See.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Okay, See it was different for both of us because well,
first things first, pretty much everyone that's on the Icon
squad outside minus Charlie, has been a sexually great darkness.
So we've all come from management, so we've all done
everything that we can do, and this is the last

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thing that we can do now.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
And also on top of that, I was iconing before
Icon and got introduced to darkness because as a sexually guy,
I used to go outside and then when I went
over to lim Brewery for six years, I always went outside.
But I didn't know it was such thing as being
an icon. I was just taking advantage of the leadership

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role that I had.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, because that's total, that's what it is. I mean,
it's what's the big one here? Blood prison and they
have that really tall chick. I mean, she's been there,
like QB in the world of haunts, you know, forever,
because she is the face of that haunt.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
So it's it is you need those people. Crowd knows those.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
People, and they exactly people will come back and buy
tickets if they know you're there, you know, just for
that person.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And even and you they and now you read the comments,
they're like sorrow. For thirty seconds, she came out, did
her scream and was gone, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
What the line actors used to be the ones because
you were hustling. You were going up and down and
up and down all night long. I was not I
like it, and I saw it's fine, but they were.
They were hustling and they were tired, you know, I
mean all the actors were tired, but.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
He as a line actor, it's on.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah there there, There is no downtime unless it's a
slow night.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, and that's it's rare unless.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
It's crappy consistently consistent.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, that's it sounds like similar, Like what kind of
what you're I was curious about what your proud moment was.
I think the line actor is a big that's a
big deal.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
It is a big deal, especially because to to go
back to what Nick said about us not being better
than everyone else. And I don't want anyone to take
this any type of way, but I do believe that
as UH used to be section leaders and break rumas,

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that we are top tier actors because we're not just
you know, goofy people that are just taking pictures and
doing dumb stuff like we actually it's important we actually
scare people out there. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I'm still I'm excited to at some point be able
to see you eyes in a haunt.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I know Miss Joanna's in the comments and she's scared
a cat. Just based upon that little kid walking around
the floor.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I have a feeling she's good.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
You know, it'll be a fun journey if her and
I go together, but I think it would be fun
to see should make that Yeah, I just it's you know,
we've chatted about it outside of this now talking about characters,
you know, like that line actress that we were talking about.
Do you prefer, you know, even if you had it

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your way, would you prefer to keep a character that
you built and just live it, breathe it, build it
like it becomes you and you become it. Or do
you prefer the creativity of constantly being able to make
a new character or be given a new character that
you have to figure out like an improv situation? Which

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one if you have to fit which one?

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Let me say, Uh, if we would have done this
stream eight months ago, I would have told you that
I want to stick with my character and really become
that character and just live that character. I noticed when
we went to Hillside House of Hell glynn Wood, I

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would shout out to our Hillside family, we love them and.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
We'll be up there in May.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
When we went up there and acted at their event
last summer, I noticed that there were a few times
throughout the night because they were were we were granted
the opportunity to be a part of their their line
squad that that evening. So there were a few times
where I was walking around I just felt like I

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was kind of walking aimlessly and that I really wasn't pushing.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
That character enough.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
I pushed yeah, like like if there was a camera
on me, obviously I pushed it because I know as
a line actor you're being recorded, this is gonna show
up somewhere. You're representing this attraction, so you gotta do something.
But when there wasn't, when as a dinner what they
say that the show must, you know, always must go on, absolutely,

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I wasn't. I wasn't pushing hard enough, and I started
thinking about, Okay, I need to do something to re
spark myself.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
So that's I would.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Say that I will keep that character and you know,
in the vault for whenever I want to do it again.
But hence you end up making other things, experimenting so
they could come up with different things and stay you
know fresh.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, real quick, JURDI, before you say something, we have
somebody trying. So your coffee isn't done yet, creep, No,
but it's delicious.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Coffee.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Se is fiening for coffee right now?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Ifen coffee, little cream actually does have heavy cream in it.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I'm going to before we had the Days of the
Dead tomorrow Joanna.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
So anyway we had we had to say give a
little what's up? So what do you think? Are you
a build a character, keep it living or are you
like the creativity of a new skin.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
So my answer is truly split because when I came
back to Darkness, I was a zombie and I wanted
to evolve that zombie because a lot of the customers
will say, you look like toxical venture. He had like
a bumpy face, a big it was like yeah, and

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it was green and everything mm hm. Because we had
this section of the Hunt called the High, which was
like a postal apocalyptic radioactive things like that. Oh that.
So I was that character for a full season. I
tried to push it the second season, and of course management, well, heredy,
you know, we really like you being a clown. They

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tried to cohurse me in to doing it, and I said,
fuck it, I'll be a clown again because I was
going for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
And you do you like that character?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Though?

Speaker 5 (31:11):
I actually do love that character.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
But I have a.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
How do I say this? I have a love hate
relationship with the clown character because there's so many people,
specifically cue line actors, they are all clowns. They all
have the long hair.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was wondering if that's where you were going, because
I was.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Like a little booty chin all that real, Like, you know,
there's because a lot of the.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Because they look like yeah fact in.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Fact, remember remember the episode Sorry that's crude, but remember
the episode of Rick and Morty World was scary Kerry
and it's she in like ball sack. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like,
don't get me wrong. A lot of the a lot
of the line exeter clowns are extremely great at what
they do. It's just not for me anymore. Because I

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evolved that character. I went through about four to five
different masks and the evolution of my old character, which
is name Apocalyptic.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Okay, so you name you name that character.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Yeah, and then I came like Bubbles.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
You guys know Bubbles. I named Bubbles.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
And then I came like that.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
So the doll character I kind of let go because
it just I experimented a few times. I had a
one geone and everything. I gave him a complete backstory,
he had parents and everything. I let that character go,
and I now have father Jerome. I also have a
Frankenstein like character who I haven't given the name.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Okay, so you kind of you, you kind of dabble, yeah,
because my.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Thing is I always want to have a lot in
the arsenal because if we go to a specific hunt,
like let's just say we go to I'll say Dan
for example. But if there's no clowns, then I have
other characters that I could pull from.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
So then you're like, I have this.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
So I mean it's like an actor having you know, skills,
either knowing just how I can speak a foreign language,
I can you know, cry on cue whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
So it's that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
So we Okay, So to answer to this question, yes,
we actually can trademark our characters. This is yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I came in the comments. I just didn't want it
to miss it. I wasn't trying to interrupt you.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, we we can trademark our characters because the things is,
once we come up with this character's name, the likeness,
the backstory, the hunt doesn't own.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
That you do, yes, because they're because they're yours. Okay,
So it's again it's like a clown like the clown
face you can design that face and it is yours forever.
So I learned that actually from my hubby.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
So, okay, I'm gonna bubbles.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
In her in her honor her.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
I did that.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I did that totally just because I was like, it's
Halloween and I'm gonna sit down and just play with makeup,
blood and red and everything. I came out and mister
creep did He was like that's gross. Like He's like, yeah,
that's I'm the I'm the creepy, you know, blood gutscore.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Even though I don't like blood, guts and core. So yeah,
Bubbles is cool looking. I like her little extra gore
here and there. Now, go ahead, what was that say.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
A little bit of blood. I ain't never hurt nobody,
I know.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I just I think that it's application too.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I've seen some people and they just put it all
over their characters and I'm like, you just look silly,
Like you have to put it where it needs to be. Now.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
The other part of what you guys do is the
horror side.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
And kind of actually I met you guys at a
at Ghulikan at a horror convection because I'll be goe oh,
don't worry we're gonna I'm gonna show.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
You here in a second.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
It was all because Nick was wearing a Fit for
a King shirt and all I did was walk up
and start talking to you, and I said, hey, I
noticed you had a Fit for a King shirt on,
and we just started talking about music.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
And you and I just start talking about music. It
had nothing to do with what we were there for.
But I'm a music HORKI yes.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And that's just where we were so I find it.
You know, if you guys speaking of Ghoulikan, let me
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(35:52):
is going to be a vendor. I'm going to be speaking,
and I'm bringing the touch Table as I call it,
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You can learn about that. So that's Goolikan and we

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have other events too that that we're going to be
going to. But speaking of horror, what is your favorite
horror movie? I know that's a loaded question. If you
had to pick one. You were only ever allowed one
horror movie?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
What would it be?

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (36:29):
So, before before we answer this, I will say I
always get a kick out of this question for Yardy
and I because Yerdie and I are very we're very
strong on what our favorite horror movies are. Okay, and
I can almost bet money that I know what.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yurdy is gonna say, and I'm sure vice versa.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Okay, would you guys plan guess each other's movie first?

Speaker 4 (36:54):
We should try? We should try, all right? I guess
for YARDI g is the Shiny?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay? And Urdy, what do you think his is?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
The Shining? And Patt Cemetery only one?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
What do you think you had to pick one.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Past Cemetery?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Okay? What's your favorites? Both of you?

Speaker 5 (37:15):
The Shining, Pat.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
Cemetery absolutely absolutely, dog Digity dog and look the funny
part is.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And they're both Stephen King.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
And they're both Stephen King.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
The funny thing is, Uh, I'm very strong on the Shining,
But after so many rewatches in my love for this franchise,
even there in twenty thirteen has knocked the shine. It's
number two for me. I know.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Scary movies.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Someone else's is trolling oh had I just saw it
in the comments, so I have to say I think
these two are going backving forward in the comments. So
that's a whole conversation Shining. I actually did not see

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The Shining until I was an adult adult, and it
was kind of a slow burn. But it was interesting,
you know, because it's a Kubrick film, so they're kind
of like, Okay, come on, let's go, you know, at
least in my mind. Sorry, but it was now I
think I like it more that I'm older. It's a

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forty one year old.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Okay, So look, have you seen Doctor Sleep or read
the book yet?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I remember I saw that they were making a movie
out of it, and I have not read any Stephen
King books, which I picked one up. I think I
did because I wanted to give him a try.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
So this is an unpopular opinion, but Doctor is better
than The Shining from a storytelling standpoint.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Okay, does it does it do? Does it do a
good job like the visuals were in The Shining?

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Yes, especially because technology is better.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Well sure, you know, but I liked that the Shining
was pretty much all real. They weren't digital, so it was.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
I mean, so it was it was I wouldn't say
ninety eight percent practice.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's that's good, especially for modern movies these digital for everything.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Like yeah, so I really I really liked practical effects.
So I want to go see Alien Rodney List when
it came out back in I think August, that was
that was that was about ninety five percent practical. Yeah,
I was like, no, like fed out is he actually
had them build the sets. He had them actually he

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had them build the cenomah.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Also, that's it's why I mean it's and you know what,
that's probably why it looks so good because it was
the steam and the wet and the movie, and that's
probably why it was really cool looking.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
I mean, there was a little cgi like you can
kind of tell in certain scenes. But I said, for
the most part, the actual xenomorph was practical and if
I could get wrong, but I believe that a few
of them were published and a few of them were
actual costumes.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
And because they I mean, they looked because costumes, I
feel like scenes are a problem. Whenever you move your
armpits or you move your heat, like, you can always
tell where the scenes were.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
So they did a great job.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Only certain studios should resort to Marvel. Marvel.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Marvel needs cgi right to make it because it's magic,
you know, I think so?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
So Nick, what about your pet Cemetery? What's is there?
Like now, I have not seen it, but I love
the song that eisnine Kills. I have not seen it.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
You never seen you gotta watch it? Yeah, I don't.
There's something about.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
I know you know you probably I'll say it so
I'm blue in the face, but I am just such.
I'm such an atmospheric person. And any movie can create
an atmosphere. Any horror movie can create an atmosphere. But
when you're talking about pet Cemetery, which I'm pretty sure

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was eighty nine or I think I want to say
nineteen ninety, that.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Just that that I'm Beyonce around it. The opening scenes
and things like that were just it was awesome.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
I mean, I don't know it just it gives me
Stephen King is able to kind of create an atmosphere
that I don't think a lot of other writers can create.
Anybody can create one, but you know, a Stephen King
atmosphere when you when you get it.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, even like even like myself who hasn't read them,
all or seen them all.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I can you can usually this is probably a Stephen
King book, right, you know that's and that's that's interesting.
You guys both you started at the same time. Really
you both chose Stephen King movies.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Are you guys? Like, are you sure not related? Like
related related some bloodline there.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Right, And I remember I wrote mine down just because
I was I was curious what what y'alls were. So
for me, I didn't choose these movies like that at
the time when they came out. I was either too
young or I just couldn't appreciate them. For me, I
love the original Fright Night movies, but the second one
I love the most because.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
The woman is the sister.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
His sister comes back and I was like, oh, I'm
a total nerd, like gyeek looking girl.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I that's what I want to look like.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
That It was The Lost Boys for me. On the
vampire side, that's.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
A good one too. I've always loved that was and
that's a I think that's a staple.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I think everybody has to see it or should see.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Just don't watch the sequels.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Oh those were awful. So I think now you're already
this next question.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I mentioned this to you at Horror Hound, and I
really wanted to get it more into the settings so
we could talk about it.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
When you guys go to an attraction as a patron,
not as an actor. You're going as a patron and
you want to go to the darkness or even when
you haven't been to before in your group, where are you?
Are you in the front, the middle or the back?
Which one do you prefer?

Speaker 5 (43:33):
I prefer to be in the front, the front.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
You want to see it first, You want to get
the scare and.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
See my thing is I think Nick can attested this. Also,
we don't try to attract that all they work at
the darkness attention, So I never wear a Darkness hoodie
majority of the time when we go to hunts. I
don't even wear a Toxic Icon hoodie because I don't
want it to be well, now we know they're here.
I just want to like I'm a regular band customer.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yep, don't give fuel, no name, nothing.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
And it has happened before where we have shown up
to a hunt and they recognize us as Toxic Icon
and it was called out over the radio.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Hey, Toxic is walking through right now and we want
you all to give them.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
And like that's cool because right, like so it's like cool,
But I definitely agree with what yurry you're saying.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
We try to refrain because in hunt culture it is.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
Respectable and people like to wear their stuff, you know
when when you go to other attractions.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
But we want yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (44:37):
And so when it comes to a group in the
Hunted House, personally, I want the back. And the reason
that I want the back is because I theoretically whoever
I'm with within my group, I want to see how
well their actors are on timing and hit points in
a group. If there is a group of ten, you

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don't hit one and you don't hit ten, but you
hit it between four and five because you get everybody
on each side of the group. I want to see
how that, how that rolls. And they're also taking my
time to look at everything around the attraction too.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, I feel like you're in the front. You're kind
of arguing, you're getting pushed. Yeah, you know, A it
blows the scare and B you're getting pushed.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Well.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
See I kind of veer off though, I off just
a little bit. That way I can get that way,
I can get that first jump scare and then I'm
probably running through the house anyway, you know, because it's
like it's hard to scare me. It is very hard
to scare me.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
But I don't.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I don't you know, I'm not the I'm not the
asshole customer. Oh you're not scary. You can't scare me, No,
because those types of those are.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
The ones that are actually scared. They're just being They're
just chicken. Yeah, they at all And it's disrespectful.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Yeah, it's like they it's like they they want that
they want that cloud out of their friend group to
be like, well, yeah, see he could scare me and
nine times out of you, but nine times out of
team they were by raty to pee on themselves.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yep, and I didn't. I hated that too, because it's like,
I'm not gonna waste my my my like scare on you.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I'm gonna look and see which one scouring that's the
we are cowering, that's the one I want.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
That's one thing about Nick and I we were We
will roast you if you try to get off on us.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, like we will.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Roast to the point that you cry or you get
mad and want to fight because you try to embarrass me.
So now you're gonna get embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah by to stand by.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
So there was a question again that came in from
ghost Dog that I just pinned here so that we
don't miss it. It says, which is better original or
remake of pet Cemetery.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I can't speak on this, what about you guys?

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Original all that original? Uh, remake it terrible, But sometimes
you just gotta go with the nostalgic choice.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I figured that's I figured that's what you guys were
going to say. And this is a backup. It's just
talking about the end here. Oh sorry, go ahead, my bad.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
So for me, the remake, it just it just didn't
do it. And like this isn't even a comparison. It's
just it wasn't as strong of a story as the
original form. And it also it was a shorter film
as well. Okay, and that's that's always a red flag
horror movies if they're shorter, if they're PG. Thirteen, you

(47:33):
r I didn't know what you're getting.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, we we.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I wanted because I was like, I want to see
what they say. We recently watched the new one, and
I had seen most of the old one before and
it's long. I have a hard time since still, but
it's still. But that's part of the experience. It's like
the shining It's five thousand hours long, but.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
You have to go through it.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Just what you have to do.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Now.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
This was a follow up to the question of where
would you be in the in the grouping, ghost Talk says,
I like the back always because I end up being
the shepherd or the tailgunner, so.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Doing this, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
And then uh, Miss Joanna says she likes the middle
is the place with a good hood over her head.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You are the one that I am gunning for, you know.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
That is it's such a common misconception about patrons with
in the hunted house, is that when you talk like
if you if you bring this topic up to people
that have the experience of hunted attractions, they will tell you,
I want to be in the middle because the person
in front is going to see everything before I do,

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and the person in the back isn't gonna it's gonna
get it too, and they're gonna get followed.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
It's not like that at all.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
We want you in the middle every single time that
and and they don't even they don't realize it.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
That is so because that's the group has already discussed it.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
The one in the front is going to be the
one to take the hit, and the one in the
back is going to be protecting the ones in the middle,
just like you said the shepherd, so you I mean personally,
I rarely went for the tail ends.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
I was like, yeah, the middle of the sandwich, and
forget about the one that you can't forget about the
one that that stands there every time they get scared
and they stop the group. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Yeah, oh boy, I know I always saw.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
I feel bad now because I was like, I like
the kids, so I'm like, if you're going to bring
your little kid in here, sorry booth, you're gonna take.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
Honestly, some of the some of the smaller children are
more they're more brave than the parents are.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
The young kids nowadays are. Buttheads though they say language,
I mean, you don't name it.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I'm like, I want to take you out back, and.

Speaker 6 (49:55):
They don't even want to take a picture with you,
Like they just want you to do a TikTok dance
with them.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Danceny, that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Dance monkey dance. Yeah, I'm trying to make sure we
didn't miss any comments. Now, maybe I'll come.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Back in a minute.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Okay, So now you know that's I think you have
to have several seasons under under your belt kind of
throughout the years now haunted houses on when you go
through them. Do you tend to go like you want
you're just gonna like try to ignore everything that you know.

(50:32):
Or do you tend to go, oh my god, that's
a missed opportunity. It's a fake dead body. They could
have put a real one there would have scared everybody.
Look at that blank corner over there, Or there's a
grate with a scrim and there's nobody behind it slamming
their hands right and you're like, or there's.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
No like that air noise because it's perfect. Do you
tend to go through and you are able to block
that out and not critique or do you.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Like toque It's very hard not the critique, But if
I do, I'll say it to myself because once again
I dislike asshole customers, so I don't want to be
that customer. Yeah, I'll just I'll just say it to myself,
like dang, like there was nobody for these last four rooms,
maybe it's break time, or you know, maybe they got

(51:21):
maybe there's short staff and they got one pressure five
or six rooms. So I try to take all these
things into account because you know, once the pandemic happened,
that kind of put a damper on staff at all
hundred houses.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
Mm hmm, yeah, I think to me, I would say
what Yardy said, It is hard, hard to not critique.
But also one thing that I don't think a lot
of people realize is that over eighty eighty percent of
hundred houses within the United States are volunteered, and so

(51:57):
when you majority of the hunting houses that you will
have a volunteer aspect behind it. So the numbers may
be fat on Friday night, but if everybody got sick
because they went too hard Friday night and they're not
back on Saturday, you know, it.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Could always look different.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
But I will say I love the environment that hunted
houses can create, you know, within like you're just in
a warehouse, but then you go into this whole immersive environment.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
What what you try to ignore is what you end
up seeing and you store it in your mind or
especially if it's just you already or not going through.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
We'll be like, oh, that's definitely an actor hall right there.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
This is a nice high spot right here, and not
really a dang there's nobody back there, y'all don't have anybody.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
But just like, oh, man, if I was in here,
I would hide right there or climb up there.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
We we do a lot of that.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
And so that's kind of how I am in the
Hunted House.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
And then also just really taking in the atmosphere because
their stuff started on the drawing board too.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Yeah, and I figured like I'm a I'm a paying patron,
you know, like I want to give it, give me
the show, give it to me. And they had they
had this really cool junk yard one in uh in
I'm not Wisconsin, in Washington, and it was during the day,
like regular, not the season. It was an active using
junk yard, but they used the whole inside which was

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this big metal building and then you went out into
the junkyard and they had taken cars and like put
them in the ground, but the but the top, like
the back seat was out of the dirt and they
would hide people in there and the windows were all dirty,
so it would look like people were like like zombies
on the inside.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Horrifying.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
I was because they would hide them in between, like
bumpers and things like that. Oh like perfect, You'd wait
in line for three.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Hours and it was worth it.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
So we do have another question. Have you ever had
a customer trying to scare other customers? And that comes
from ghostop.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Yes, but for the most part they try to scare us.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Once again, it kind of goes back to watch I
can scare him. Yeah, I'm just like, that's it.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
You just want to, I will say. To answer that question,
I think Yerdie and I have.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
Been the customers trying to scare the customers more than
anybody else.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
I know for a fact.

Speaker 6 (54:31):
Anytime we get in a hunted house that's not ours,
especially if we aren't acting, there's just something that hits
and we got to at least get somebody that we
have to try, you know, especially like how walking around
the scar.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
Yeah, I do not inside of the house. I don't
want to get bad power people out the difference.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, I think that's true.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I remember seen the customers trying to scare I remember
seeing the customers trying to scare other customers. Though I
think it's just I always just feel the feel the sizzle,
you know, like, oh, I could be doing this so
but I was. I never was a paid like a
paid Haunt actor. I just I liked to do volunteer
work for me.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
It was fun.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
I didn't want to have somebody that was you know,
that paycheck could have could go to somebody else. I
was a vet tech at the time, so it was like,
just take me on as another this is what I
can do.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
But I was like the darkness this year to work.
That's that's what I heard.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Right, Well, you know that would be fun, but that's
a long way. That's a long ways a way. I
still got a day job, so it's a little different.
But that does sound like fun.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
Friday Saturday night people are but heads now though.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
They are uh oh, we already went that one.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
So this was my I speaking of building characters, So
you guys have seen I like to just build characters
for fun, and every Halloween I build a new one
because it's my chance. I get it all out for
one year. If you could have hair, makeup, wardrobe at
your disposal, anything, what character are you dreaming of building?

Speaker 5 (56:16):
Okay, so I would be a modern variation of Billy
from Hocus Pocus.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Oh, I did not see that coming. That's awesome, okay.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Because the whole like would you do like your would
your gag be to cut your mouth open and everything
come out?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yes, but instead of blood, it would be blood, maggage, worms,
all of that.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Oh, so you can make it. You're making it like
realistic gross, like fresh fresh dead.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Okay. I guess you could say, like a matter of fact,
like a different take on frankness time so to speak.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah, yeah, kind of, and I would.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
I would have the wild hair and everything.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
M h all right in that time period and everything.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Yeah, I will.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
I would definitely go back to that time.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Period you like that, like like well post renaissance.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Okay, see, I would make him kind of like a hobo.
Like I would have one shoe on one sock on
the other foot, right like.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
The rats ran off with the other one.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Uh huh oh, I like that some gangly toes on
your feet though, I mean, I don't know how good
your toes are now.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
But.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
A lot of injuries in twenty three years, so I
wouldn't even need any makeup for my feet.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
And then look, I would have I would have the
cat Binks I would have on my shoulder. Nice.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I truly did not expect that character.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
That's honestly one of my favorite movies, Like love that
because even though it was Disney, it was a little
big on the horror side.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Sure. Yeah, the whole you know, kill children, thang, throwing
body parts in the cauldron. That's it's kind of intense. Yeah,
what about you nick anything at your disposal?

Speaker 6 (58:13):
Anything at my disposal, mist Lee Yerdy, you really brought
up Disney.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
And so here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (58:21):
Disney allows you whether no matter how old you are,
It allows you to be as magical and creative as
you would like.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
And I have always been absolutely obsessed with.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
The Hunted Mansion and I would be a modern day
Master Gracie, Oh my gosh, you know, grave digger type
of character, because I don't well know you did see
that picture that Yerdy, and know that we did a
photo shoot in the Hunted House and I wore a
top hat and a skull mask and a soup because

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I was trying to at that time build a new
character and I wanted to go in the grave digger,
you know, kind of realm with things I've done, the Slaughterhouse.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
I know I can handle that. I know I can
do it.

Speaker 6 (59:07):
But this is just this is something that's more sinister,
a little more creepy, something I'm gonna have to use dialogue.
My size isn't going to be my only tactic. It's
a challenge and that old Victorian style.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
So what I saw in your pictures, you know it
was obviously it was real clean, like the hat was
very clean and the clothes were really clean. Would you
want it in that or would you how can I
use it as an example kind of like my Haunted
Bride where it's very faded and you know, misty looking
with makeup and you know that kind of thing, would

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you want it to be like?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Which one? Would you go that route?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Or would you keep it really clean but really skeleton
almost like how they make maybe you know, was of
those live action movies, how they make it really clean
looking instead of less ghost Let's Disney.

Speaker 6 (01:00:01):
Right then, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna go in
the Disney route. I want to be as ghostly as.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Possible, where they look like it has a mist on them.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
Absolutely, if there was a way to really re reimagine that, Yeah,
I would go in that direction because Cleen is always good.
Victorians clean.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
Look, Cleen is always good.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
But when you're when you're doing a character like that, nah,
you gotta you gotta drive it in full.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yeah, because I'm I'm such a build like I love
that's my That's my favorite part is building. And I'm
interested in how you imagine it, like how people imagine
their characters.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Another good question from the audience. Do Haunt actors have groupies?

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Okay, well, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
Answer your question, gholstuh half groupies.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
But I think every Hunted House doesn't matter who you
go talk to. Every Hunted House needs a reality show
because the high school level of drama that's going on
in that actor room is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
It's crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
It's not even a groupie thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
But it's just you got to think about it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
And and honestly, it happens within the younger kids that
work at the Haunted House, because you got people that
are of around our age. But you also have the
high school kids that are just there for fun, you know,
little astra change. And you're at the Hunted House every
weekend from September all the way through the beginning of November,
and then depending on how popular your hont is, you're

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open every night during the week too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
That is a lot of time spent together.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
The exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
My advice, don't fall in love with the haunt.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
But I can only right, yeah about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Nothing, so says I didn't say him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
We won't say who he just said, because mister Creep
has been kept abreast on the current issues within you
know us. Anyway, have you seen oh here's another one,
just a good one. What have you seen changes in

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HONT culture the most over the years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
It is so even between what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
You guys filmed for your content versus how what I
remember night and day just because that little quick, little
smidge that I saw, So I'm curious what you're there
every day.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
I would say it's more social media driven, okay, because
back then when I started up until I'll say probably
around twenty twelve thirteen, maybe you better not have your
phone out while we're working. Now they encourage appreciated now
yeah yeah, Now they encouraged, uh, recording while you're groups

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and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
They want you take pictures of what you're doing. This
is who you're gonna see. Come get this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
The guys in the camera or sliding with his little
knee sparks, you know, like everything is content everything exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Yeah, like back then it used to it used to
be looked at as, oh, they're just on their phone,
they're not working. Now it's looked at as they are
promoting themselves and the Hunt.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, you're making both people money, so that's they're okay
with it exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Last time I was at a Haunt it was the BlackBerry,
So okay, they'll tell you how I have done other things.
I haven't haven't done an yet since.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
To be honest with you, I would say that Hunt
culture has changed in a few different ways, and the
main one that I see is that actors are not
necessarily allowed to be as creative as.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
We once were able to be. There's more of a
box now.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
There are a lot of ideas that people have where
it's just kind of like, yeah, you could do that,
but you should do this instead, or maybe that might
not go over.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:36):
There are a lot of different factors to it. And
I'm not, you know, trying to bash on anybody or
anything like that, but I just feel like now there's
just so many limitations, especially with things like social media
being really a double head sword because people can love
that highlight of you scaring outside the hunting house, but
maybe you did something or or you moved a certain

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way that offends somebody that lives seen thousand miles away
from now and and here comes the bad Google review,
and now people are questioning because this is a real thing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
I do feel like it has changing that aspect.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
Also, just back in the day, you used to just
walk up to the hunting house and buy your ticket
to go in, but now everything is so digital and
people don't even really want to buy tickets because they're like, oh, well,
we can go on YouTube and watch them for a
walk through.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
And you know we love the walk Yeah, you know
that's the whole point houses we can't get to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
But well, and there's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Something to it. You get the smell, you get the noises,
you get what you see, you get the temperature. Like
it's literally like all the senses, right, You are not
going to get that on a YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
You get all of it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
See. I like to walk through specifically because when it
comes to hunts that I thought about going to or
I really wanted to, it'll push me to it'll push
me go more.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Now yeah, mm hmm, and do you and make them
like go to the next.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
Yeah, like a lot of like a lot of the
videos that Scare factor and sharp reductions make it allows
me to live previous years that I couldn't have made
it to.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Yeah, I always go back and relive that experience, you know,
Like well, especially Noel, you know we're huge on Halloween.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Horn Night's a toxic icon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Like you guys are always talking about that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
If it could be like when there's a blizzard outside
and we can't even leave the house, all right, you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Know what.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
I'm gonna go to real fast, right, Yeah, because like
like me, I've been like I've been going to AH
since twenty thirteen, back when Express wasn't even really a
big deal. But now hen is so popular, it's so immersive,
it's such a top tier event that you have to
have Express, you have to have scream early you. Yeah,

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and you know, if you're a person who is I
don't really know how to put it, Like if you're
more hotel driven versus Airbnb, you you're more than likely
going to get a universal package, which means you're spending
a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, that's even just what you told us, like how
much you spent or this and that. I was like, Okay,
that is your that's I mean, that's what you save
up for. That's your Christmas, you know, for for your
super Bowl, like I call incarceration, that's my super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I say, I go right, I am a music not
it is what resets my brain. So for whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
So I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I don't think mister Peep's gonna go, but I really
want to go see Slipknot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Well, let me know, Brittain, I will be there because that's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Like I've seen them every year now it's kind of
become like and I think Manson's that day. So I'm
really excited about that. I think.

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
So I've never seen him live. I want to, though,
is clicking we.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Have and especially now that he's out of his uh
he's not in so much drama exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
And he's not acting as much anymore either.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Yeah, and I think that's helped. He looks healthier too.
So there's a question and it won't let me click
on it. It says, will Guli Khan have hot actors there?

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Yes, there will be hont actors as we are.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
We are definitely in talks with a bunch of different
hont actors that we know and trying to make sure
that we can get everybody there. But we will definitely
get him there, no doubt. And you already I feel
like we lost Noel for a second. So we're talking
about Guli Khan with you. You're back, You're back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
No hont actors will definitely be a Googli Khan.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
We are trying to figure out how many of them
that are going to be there doing actual uh you know,
cosplay and having their costumes on. And we're also currently
working on getting people together for a panel that is
all about the life of contacting and comparing and contrasting
different experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yeah, so that'd be cool because I would.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
I always enjoy hearing different like like what you guys
go through as actors and what you're working on.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
So that's that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
I'm something I'm looking forward to. Oh, and got rid
of my posters. I was going to show posters. So
Mike says, take care of her. Sayce, I'm going to
be an incarceration.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
And got you. We got you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
She's a good hand, Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
I have we'll have girl talk and I will.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Be mashing, I promise not to go crowdsurfing because I
would not feel safe without him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
I've done that already and now I feel like I
got it out of my system exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Yeah, I'm like, okay, And it was terrifying and and
the craziest, coolest thing I've ever done.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
And they didn't drop me. So I was happy about that,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Okay, So I gotta say I was happy that y'all
made the trip to come down here.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
Yeah, and like we really appreciate you, because not everybody's
able to, you know, travel, but even if you are able,
was really you gotta have to want to want to
come down.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Yeah, And that was just so cool to see ya.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
And you know in the studio with this, Yeah, I
know it's towards the end and now we got it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Looks like we got a couple more people I wanted
to show again, which I showed it earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
So I have this is Kan because that's I have.
I've come to my questions. I didn't get to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Uh, I'll do some quick questions at the end here.
So all of us, including Covenant screens, which is in
the comments, Gooleikan is going to be coming up in July.
The actual con takes place the twelfth and the thirteenth.
You will see all of us that you see here
today will be there. And as if that's not enough,

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Speaking of Haunt actors, I'm putting mine together. I may
be changing my mind on who you see at the
Excellence Awards, so also very important. So this is an
award show for horror content creators. But you will also
see Madam Creep there, which if you have seen on
Toxics page, she predicted that they would be going to

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Gooli Kan, So.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Very very I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Wanted to make sure that I plug those things because
you guys are all in part of part.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Of what we do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Last few things because I didn't even we were Scott
to Gavin. These are the quick every because this is
Creepy Confidential where we cover cults, conspiracies and other worldly creepy.
This consider this the skied round. Shall we favorite cryptid
for both of you? This can mean big Foot, moth Man,
Jersey Jump, Jersey Devil, whoever. Who is your favorite cryptid?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
If you have one?

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Could it be a cryptid that you may not know of?

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Of course?

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Okay, I'm going to go with a local saint Louis
legend and that is the bubble Heads.

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
And I will send you some more information on the
bubble heads if you have not heard of them, but
to give you his speed round. So they give you
the long story story. There is a house on Carrico Road.
It's around the corner from where I'm at right now.
It is cut off to the public, and there are
legend has that there's a family that has been living

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there for the past with thirty or forty years, and
that they all had a different sort of kind of
disease that is made their heads blow up to astronomical size,
and that you know, back in high school we used
to go over there after homecomingy and get caught by
the police, and you know, it was a whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
So, uh, that would be my biggest.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Crypti Ohio has the Ohio melon Heads, and I did
an episode on them. I got into what the one
that you mentioned the bubble heads very similar lore so yeah, yeah, okay,
so yeah, very very similar. What about you, Jurnie Crypti.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
O, I would actually say a Yeti. I've never seen
a real yetty on camera, anything like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
A specific one or you just like the yetti race
in general, because there are Okay, I've.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Never seen anything on the Discovery Channel or anything about Yetti's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Okay, so there's because of course, the most famous footage
is of Patty and that's from back in the day,
and that's the Bigfoot. Every pretty much every big Foot
post you see.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Is back from the back over in California. And that's
the only footage that we've ever received. So very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Okay, Uh, next one, have you ever seen a UFO
so like the actual ship and if you did wear
time and shape?

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
I wish that I I wish that I have seen it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Okay, that's not uncommon.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
Lots of people have never seen it, you know, but
I but I will say that I would like to
come on here again as Toxic Icon. And now that
we've talked about the hunt, I want to talk about
all things UFOs and aliens.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I find man, I find that so interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Yes, well, you're in the right place, like you never
see where they hit.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
But you know, how was that react if you saw
a UFO just over your house right now at this
very moment.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I grabbed the camera immediately immediately camera type shape, where's
it going?

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Not at the time, and then I would get onto
the big there's a huge federal like database, and I
would type.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
In everything that I had seen. Yep, that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I mean, I've seen one, but I was a little kid.
So all right, paranormal have you ever had a paranormal experience?
Shadow figure?

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Have you seen one? A mist or disembodied voice?

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Or I would also count where like what is that
you're You're frozen, you can't move and you're sleeping. I
think I think you told me a story.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
Yeah, I experienced prows.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Mm hmmm, what about you. I don't think you answered
that when we were talking about it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
Nick.

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
For me, more of a I've experienced a dream, but
I've also experienced certain just like energy, you know, at
a certain time thought, you know, thought, and then certain
things that are happening, but in definite recollection to that
person's personality, things that I knew about, so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
You knew the person was gone, like not on this realm.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Yes, Okay, interesting, interesting, Okay, I know most of it
was just about talking about what you guys do and
haunt actors.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
So I'm glad you participated in my speed round.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
I love the speed Round, so thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
I know, we're kind of we kind of gotten to
the end here. I've kept you guys a little longer
than anticipated, but we had some good conversation. And for
for everybody who's watching or listening, because this will become
an audio podcast as well one of our episodes, all
of toxic icons information is going to be linked in
either the podcast description so that you can find all

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of their information, watch their videos and listen to their podcasts,
or if you're watching this later on YouTube because this
will go into our permanent episode archives. We'll also link
all of the information below. We've worked with toxic Icon
in the past, and undoubtedly I hope that you will
see Creepy Confidential with toxic Icon in the future. So

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before we leave, do you have anything specific that you
guys would like to plug.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
Obviously, gooli Con is forced to be reckoned with and
we're working really hard and we.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Want you all to come out and experience it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:42):
But also from a toxic Icon standpoint, everything that you
you know that you want to find toxic Icon wise,
go to our link tree. We will be at Hillside
House of Hell on May the tenth this year for
their Glow Night event. We are bringing the cameras with
us suiting up in different characters and getting ready to
unhand some nightmares on the crowd all night long. So

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definitely keep going to the YouTube and run up those episodes,
Radioactive Roads shows, all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Those are super fascinating. I love those. I hope you yes,
radio you love that? What about you? You already anything
you want to you want to plug to the pre nation?

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Well, first things first, Tomorrow I will be at Days
of the Day in Chicago. May third. We have not
confirmed yet, but there's a I forgot exactly what the
horror con is, but it's in Chicago. Seek Nightmare Weekend. Yep,
that's what it is. Nightmare Weekend Chicago. Where we were
talking about May third, very cool? May sixteenth is most

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of you that tune in the past icon know I
am an artist. I am my solo headline show out
here Pops in Sajay, Illinois aka the backyard of Saint Louis.
I like that and now and then also make come
back for that too, and also for everyone that's going
to Ghuli Khan, my new metal band, The Rebels MF

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will be headlining Gulikan.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Very cool. Yeah, so you'll have plenty to listen to,
plenty to see and come talk to us. I'm very excited.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
I will do everything I can to summon bubbles.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
We'll have to stay at the table all day and
make people happy, so I don't know if bubbles will come.
I'll scare everybody off over to your table. Okay, all right, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
I thank everybody for our toxic icon fans and friends,
and also for the creep Nation for stopping by. We've
had a couple of people stop in, leave us comments
and by all means check this on the replay. Everything
will be up at creepy Confidential dot com. You can
get merch, you can check out the events, and you
can check out what we have coming in the future.

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So thank you so much, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
This was an absolute blast.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
I appreciate you having us and Stuart is dead.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
If you're part of creep Nation, you need to come
join the Icon Nation. Just just join both. It's great,
joined

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Both absolutely all right, guys, hang on and I'm gonna
take us out, all right, all right, peez