March 1, 2025 • 34 mins
Welcome to the live recording of Episode 40 What Dreams May Come
Today we are welcoming back the owner of Coven of ScreamsLLC and the creator and curator of Ghouliecon… Joanna The Supreme of the Ghoulies
This will be a 2 part episode and we will be covering a lot of creep-tastic things.
Part 1 will cover some history on dreams, mythology, and the walk through of each of our main occuring dream.
Part 2 will include the breakdown and our interpretation of our dream and what our dream is trying to tell us.
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Today we are welcoming back the owner of Coven of ScreamsLLC and the creator and curator of Ghouliecon… Joanna The Supreme of the Ghoulies
This will be a 2 part episode and we will be covering a lot of creep-tastic things.
Part 1 will cover some history on dreams, mythology, and the walk through of each of our main occuring dream.
Part 2 will include the breakdown and our interpretation of our dream and what our dream is trying to tell us.
Here at Creepy Confidential ee are adding a few extra shows and segments to help make Creepy Confidential your one stop shop for all your creepy content.
Visit creepyconfidential.com and become part of the Creep Nation today!
Creepy Confidential Library Lectures:
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Dreams in our modern world are simply visions that occur
to us when we are sleeping, more specifically occurring primarily
in rem sleep, during a time when our bodies begin
to do something called rapid eye movements.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Scientists have attempted to decipher these visions for centuries, even millennials.
In modern times, books, lectures, and sleep studies spend countless
hours attempting to crack the code on dreams.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Long before Sigmund Freud wrote his famous book The Interpretation
of Dreams. During a different era, when gods reigned, it
was said that a group of gods and beings were
responsible for delivering these mental images while we slept.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
In the times of a they used a method known
as dream incubation as a means of healing and divination.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Hypnos the god of sleep, born of Nix, the primordial
goddess of the night, donning a crown of poppies on
her chariot across the sky. Nix was also the mother
of Thanados, the god of peaceful death, who was also
closely known as the embodiment of death. Hypnos may sound
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familiar to many because his name is where we get
words like hypnotic and hypnotize. His Greek name literally translates
to sleep. In Avid's Metamorphous, the home of Hypnos is
an underworld cave, a place that the sun never touches.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Outside of his cave entrance is a spray of poppies
and other herbs, but inside is a silent place, without
animals or trees, and not a single whisper of living things.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Within the cave is the underworld River of Oblivion, which
is said to trickle with soft murmuring amid the pebbles
and invite soft sleep. The god Hypnos lies on an
ebony couch with jet black cushions and around him recline.
Amongst dreams, dreams, also known as onioi, were creatures black
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winged entities that appear as visions to a dreamer, taking
various forms human, animal, monster, or object. These various forms
were used to deliver messages and omens to the dreamer.
Homer of the Iliad and Honysty refers specifically to the
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land of Dreams, which, like Hypnos his cave exists in
the underworld. Dreams again may be the creatures and not
just visions he sees while sleeping, but are also referred
to the visions he sees when he slumbers, So.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Which is the ancient poet speak of the creature or
the state of mind.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Another ancient history lesson is that of the practice of
sleep incubation, where a person would intentionally sleep in a
sacred place, such as a temple, in order to invite
a dream.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The incubated dream could be for a visitation from a
god or a prescription for healing. They would also practice
sleep incubation looking for oracle guidance on something specific.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Preceding the period of sleep incubation would be a series
of rituals up to and including fasting ritual, bathing in
cold spring or river water, and making offerings to Hypnos,
the nouzene and Helios, the god of the sun. Other
practices include attempting sleep incubation in a sound and light
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proof cave. In modern day we use float tanks that
deprive us of sound and light and also provide suspension
in water, allowing our brains to enter different waves. Sleep rituals,
you scoff. Even in modern day we perform our pre
sleep rituals. Don't believe us. Let's define the parameters.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Ritual A religious or solemn ceremony consisting of a series
of actions performed according to a prescribed order.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Every night when you get ready for bed. Isn't there
a series of actions that you perform? So in the
modern day of twenty twenty five, we are still performing
pre sleep rituals in hopes of falling asleep smoothly and
getting to dreamland as fast as possible. When you lay
in bed trying to relax, eyes closed, you wonder to
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yourself what dreams may come?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Subcreeps and welcome to Creepy Confidential. Is Mothman really a
supernatural force predicting impending doom? Did Apollo eleven really land
on the moon in nineteen sixty nine? Did you find
out if that was a cult that was living just
two doors down that you waved to every single day
(05:28):
when you got your mail. If these are the things
you ponder when you should be sleeping, then I would
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local communities right up on nder you're very creepy noses,
So get ready, creeps. It's Creepy Confidential.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Subcreeps, and welcome to the live recording of episode forty
What Dreams May Come, And now today we are welcoming
back the owner of Coven of Screams, LLC. And the
creator and curator of Ghouli Con of the premiere horror
Convention of the Greater Cincinnati Area, Joanna, the Supreme of
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the Goolies. Welcome, hello.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I want to steal that too, just so you know.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah right, She's like, I'm keeping that right. So welcome
back and thanks for joining us here on episode. Now, kids,
if you notice, we are in our gammis and we
will be talking about dreams tonight, little bit of history
and then trying to go over our reoccurring dream and
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dissect them.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
We have been.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Working very hard with that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I've learned now that I've known you for a little while,
that dreams are of an interest to you, and I
thought we'd be a good fit for this episode, you know,
with our interpretation and to bring it to the creep nation.
Here about our dreams now today we are going to
embark on a new form of content here at Creepy Confidential.
(07:30):
So this is not our usual sit and chat. It
will be later, but we are going to basically build
this like a normal episode, but live and with a
fellow creep so that is very important. So we are
filming this episode in front of our live virtual audience here,
and just like the usual episodes, this one is researched
and written just like usual, only this time I have
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some help, just like I mentioned, So this will be
a two part episode because we're going to start over
the basic information and then the second part will be
covering more of the breakdown and what our interpretations are
and it's just too much to fit into one episode.
We're going to be answering questions at the end of
the show so that we can kind of focus as
we proceed through. But if you have a question, please
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feel free to leave it in the chat because we'll
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a part of the creep nation today. So what do
you think dreams are for us now that we've had
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a chance to go through the formal introduction?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I do personally think that they are visions and
away because you have to think about it. When we sleep,
we are basically like paralyzed physically for however many hours.
Where does our soul go? Where does our conscience go?
And I think we go to all types of different
realms and we are trying to go places that our
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spirit wants to go and visit.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, so more of like a spiritual sense. I read
something speaking of that when you said, you know, like
we're paralyzed when they talked about the embodiment of death,
because that is the closest we can get to death
without being dead, is sleeping, which I just happen to
come across that. So I kind of think that it's
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our brain because I just can't help let go of
certain things. How I think science wise is that I
do think it's our brain's way of trying to organize thoughts,
even if it's in a crazy, crazy way. But I
also part of me having said that as I'm this
is a weird example, is I think people or pets
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that I've lost have come to me in a dream.
As I hope, I'm wearing cremation jewelry of my boy
and when he comes to my dreams, I would make
up going he came to see me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So it's yes, so.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Somewhere even though I don't, I don't, but I do,
so I kind of have. I can't let go of
some things, and the other parts are like, but I
think it's kind of a veil area. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So I lost my mom like fifteen, I had to
look at her memorial cord. But she and I've said
this before too, she comes to my dreams all of
the time. And the kind of crazy part of it, obviously,
you're gonna dream about people you lost and loved ones
and things like that. That's human nature. But when she
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talks to me. That's the thing with my dreams is
I have very lucid conversations with people in my dream
and she knows what's going on currently she's like two.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Weeks ago, she's up to date.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's me insane. But then you're like, are
you a damon? You know, I don't know well, and.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I think I think they also might be up to
date because you know what's up to date, So that's
that is true. But I but I agree. You know,
it's like I think I miss I miss him, and
and i've he's and he hasn't shown up in a while,
so part of me is like, maybe he crossed.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
He's sound different.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But that's a whole other conversation. Right, Part three, Part four,
I don't right, We're gonna keep going. This is gonna
be like an ongoing dream conversation here. So the next
question that I have is have because now that you
mentioned you know, we've talked about dream incubation, you know,
I guess a two parts. Have you ever heard of
that before? And have you ever attempted it?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I have not. And the only reason I've not really
attempted to go a lot further in my dream sometimes
is because I am very cautious of if I go
too far, can I come back? Right, we were talking
about in City Is earlier. This is my best friend,
y'all we were talking about in city, talk about a
(12:14):
lot lately, all weird stuff, okay, And I feel like
you can, like you do need to be a little
careful because to me, at least just me personally, that
is another realm. That is another place that you can
invite things in. You can really just you know, get
lost in it. And I don't want to get lost.
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So so you're for you.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's it's control you're not quite ready to let go of,
you know, if there is no control, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, So now how you talked about, both of us
have a reoccurring dream that we've had for quite some time,
which I think it's cool that somebody else is also
and very different dream, but that it's been going for
quite some time, I guessn't showed up for a little while,
and once I di sected it blew my mindsro my
theor reason? Why how long have you been having your
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recurring dream? With the description you gave me.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, this has been Oh my goodness, it's definitely been
over ten years, for sure. It definitely. It was really
when I think my mom passed is when I started
having trauma specific.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
One emotional trauma.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And it's like she's never shown up in this dream though,
which I'm still this dream confuses the mess out of me.
It's so weird, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It is quite random, and when we get there, it
is quite random. The era the ever like you know
it was. I'm like, oh oh oh.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But it's maybe I'll I guarantee, I'm my dream about
it tonight, guarantee because we.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Talked the product.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I haven't seen mine in a while, so I.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Hope maybe about it to night.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So it's okay, okay, So right, maybe we're like kind
of stirring up the freshening.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah over here.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Now the creeps, No, I have. I have an odd
love of all kinds of weird movies, not necessarily all
horror movies, because that's kind of your wheelhouse. But mine
is movies that I remember and I will reference for
things Now. I use them as analogies as well when
I talk about like my classes that I'm going to teach,
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or how I explain things. Super excited coming to a
city near you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, the screen Team screen Team and the Bulica will
be there to do.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That to a ticket excited side, you know, sidebar, but
that I use them to talk about these, you know,
different discussions. So I have I have two movies which
I mentioned to you now. The first one is The
Cell with Jennifer Lopez. Had you seen that one yet?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I have not, But when you gave when you sent
me like the poster of it, I was like, I
know which one you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, it was because it was a little while ago.
But this one, if you were into the tech, like
the technology of what they're in the dreams and everything,
and it was kind of a two parter because it
was a serial killer type of movie. So in there,
they have a technology that's been developed to allow people
to travel into people's dreams. Now they need the technology
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to travel into the dreams of a serial killer that
is in a comatose state in an attempt to try
and find his latest victim. The imagery of this movie
is insane. Even if you take Jlo out of it,
the imagery is insane. Now Jlo decides she's willing to
say I'll do it. She's I think she's a social
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worker in the movie, but she is not protected from
being killed or sucked into the dream without too much
spoiler alert, Those things may or may not occur within
this particular film. Now, would you be willing to be
placed in a mind such as this to help find
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a victim such as this with no protection, knowing that
you could die or get sucked into this person's dream?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Oh that's a good creep.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh, I know right, it's like it's like I like
doing this.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Oh my god, it's like you're good at it or something.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Jesus.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh, so part of me is very much and it's
so funny. I have already's like voice in my head,
mind your business, right, But like part of me is like,
but I want to help, but I do, like I
do really believe if you do not go in there
with like a spill or something on you, you are
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about to be taken.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, And this is like this is using science, so
you've got chemicals and everything, you know. And there's like
a little in the movie. You probably have seen that
where she's like clutching her hands like this because there's
an air there's something in her hand that's basically like
a flush, get me out, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
But even then it's like who knows, who knows what?
And the things with dream the dreams, especially with like
insidious and that and the further if I'm not they
they can like you get attacked or they attract two
living things. So as soon as you're in that realm,
you're like, I want to go ahead and get my plushy.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is my vinny for those of you together are watching,
if you're listening at home, I am holding my cute
plushy with my black cat with green eyes.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But I do like, I feel like you are automatically
when you're a living creature, like you are going to
go in that realm and you know, all that attracted
to you because they want that life force.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So it's like and in this one, he's bad. Yeah,
but if you you should watch. If you haven't, if
you need a refresher, I seriously suggest watching it. Yeah,
you're getting a phone call. Listen, listen call from beyond
perhaps hold on, it was a spam number and that
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actually just this is what happened last night. Yep, uh huh.
Literally all my little all my little fun little science
experiments are over there in my briefcase.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Oh, this is what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Okay, So I have another wild one for you, and
I'm not sure have you ever. Now, Monkey Bone is
the next one. Have you ever seen this one?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
When I just came out, No.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No, no, no, this is a Brendan Fraser movie.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yes, listen, I love me some brand.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, and this one and yeah, it's it's it's a
wild wild right.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Wait, I've heard of it though.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Actually it's weird, super duper weird. Yes, But there are
so many references. When I was researching for this, Hypnos
is a character that's in there, and he plays this
like sleazy underworld guy. Like he's like a short, little
goat guy. And he has his creatures that lay on
his bed that look like bees, and that those are
the dreams. And when I first watched it, I did
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not know any of that information. So let's talk about
this one. So Stu Stu, Stu, hold on, stoop scream. Yeah,
another Stu. Stu is a that's Brendan Fraser's character. Stu
is a cartoonist responsible for creating a character called monkey Bone.
Now he is an artist. Uh. Stu's girlfriend is a
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sleep institute worker who has helped him deal with his nightmares.
One night, Stu gets in a car crash and he
falls into a coma. Now, he's he's not just caught
in his own mind, but he's caught. He's caught in
this place called Downtown, which is basically like a land
of sleep, and they and they live and they they
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thrive and eat nightmares, so they want nightmares to happen.
The landscape is filled with mythical creatures and figments of
the sleepgoer's imagination, including monkey Bone, so he de's in
real life in this in this imagination world. Now the
only way out of Downtown is to get an exit pass. Now,
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Hypnos sound familiar, is the ruler of this downtown, and
in order to wake up, he tells Sue he has
to steal an exit pass from his sister Death, who
is played by Whoopy Boldberg Whoopy Goldberg in the movie
who Before before Stu's girl. Now he has to do
this before Stu's girlfriend pulls the plug on his life support,
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because he's in a coma right now, because he's been,
you know, there for a while. Now, Hypnos's twin brother
was Thenado's aka the embodiment of Death, So that's where
that comes from.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
As if that wasn't enough, they are pulled in to
the movie Stu's girlfriend creates a nightmare liquid called o'er
roy sound familiar, right, called the creatures in from the
Mythology story that were dreams. So they used the actual
myology name and and put it in a movie. Now
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there's a huge cast of people, uh and uh not.
Not a lot of people seem to know about this movie,
which I don't know why. Now you should. The movie
is nuts, but it really I really had to mention it.
Plus it has Brendan Fraser where he's performing she's a
brack uh while some leather pants. So I strongly suggest
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you watch it. So want to hear for creepy stuff.
But we're also girls and be like your movie. So okay,
I think I think this is kind of a good
jump point, would be for us to each talk about
our dreams. So I think I think it's a good
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a good part. Now, now do you want to go first?
You're ready? You want me to go first? Okay, You're like,
I want to see I want to see what kind
of craziness is happening here.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I'm ready because your mind is just as crazy as mine.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
So right now I have this reoccurring dream probably started
a little bit after I was out of the military,
So I'll say somewhere around two thousand and five, two
thousand and six, and it's been showing up on and off. However,
I can say it probably hasn't shown its face in
almost a decade that I can remember health, which is
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I've been married for a decade, and I think when
we talk about what's been happening, maybe that's why. So
let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'm ready, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
The environment is wispy and feels like a filter is
over everything, but not fuzzy. The exterior of the house
appears to be a Victorian farm home from the late
nineteenth century. It's in an open farm plane kind of
a plot of land kind of surrounding the home, and
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it reminds me of like those dust bowl pictures that
you see from that era. So really barren in this
random home, like in the middle of it. It always
starts with me approaching from the front of like walking
up to this home, and I never see the full
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exterior of the house. I only ever see the front door,
and then it's a second story. It's slightly windy outside,
and I can see the kind of silty dirt blowing
over the ground, and I can see the bottom of
my dress and my bare feet. Now, the color of
the dream is almost gray scale, but it almost has
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a slight like sepia tone. It's not completely like gray gray.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That's very like dust, bolish, eat.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Very dirt, very earth. Right now, the color of my
dress is the only true color I ever see, and
it is two era correct, it does make sense. It
is a pale chiffon kind of color. And the lilax
and her I always when I when I saw the
dress and the Titanic that she was wearing the night
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that they struck the boat, it looks kind of like that,
but imagine just like cream chiffon and lilac, but dirty
at the bottom. Okay, okay, And it billows from my
waist down and I can I can tell it's me,
but I can't. I don't like, Oh it's me, right,
I yeah. So I walk up and I grab the
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handle of the front door, and I'm able to push
it open. It's it's unlocked. And when I walk in,
there is a Grandmother clock that sits next to the
bottom of the steps, like where they start to go up.
So they're like not the big big ones, they're the
ones that are a little bit shorter, and I can
hear it clicking, like I can hear it ticking, but
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I can't make out the time or I am unable
to remember what the time says on the face of
the clock. The clock reminds me I didn't write this
part down, but I remember. The clock reminds me of
the grandmother clock that my grandpa and grandma had in
their house. And my mom now has this clock because
they're they're on, they're right, and I so I can
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hear it clicking. Now once I'm inside, the wind continues
to blow the way that it did outside, even though
the door is closed, and you and I can hear
it exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You can hear that. Oh okay, I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
On the plane, and you can see a little bit
of this silty dirt kind of blowing on the wood
wooden floors. Now I can hear the clock again. But
as I look up, there is a man at the
top of the steps in period clothing matching but not
not fancy but not like house close kind of that
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semi formal. Maybe he just got back from getting packages
or like that kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Closed like linen pants, that type of right exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
But it's dark, like a dark suit, got you okay, yep,
And and uh, you know, he has kind of ear
length but wavy hair, kind of like as if it
was dirty you could see, you know, as they didn't
wash their hair a lot kind of has those waves.
And I'm trying to go up the steps. But as
I try to go up the steps, it's slow motion.
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It's like my my feet are in quicksand but the
wind still blows at the same speed. Everything else clicks
at the same speed, but I have completely slow as
I go up the steps. Oh now, I never make
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out exactly what the gentleman looks like in his face,
like his features, I don't, but I don't feel that
he is a stranger. And there's nobody else inside of
the house. There's no voices, nothing. But it's it's strange
because as soon as I look at him, the dream
switches to first person to a third person, and as
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if someone is standing at the bottom of the steps
watching me and my dress go up in slow motion,
but everything else continue to move at full pace. This
has been happening for a long time, so I have
this baby like memorized. As I get to the top
of the steps. He's standing there, and I put my
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hand on his chest like as if you were like
like a loving motion. I do the same thing to
my husband, so it's like almost but I can't tell
I don't have a ring on my hand or anything
like that. The gentleman takes my hand and as we
turn to continue upstairs, I never see the rest of
the upstairs or any other room in the house. The
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clock is starting to chime and I wake up.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And it's so funny because I've heard that for dreams,
nobody is really ever a stranger, even if you don't
know them in your current life either you have been
recarnated and you know.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like they came from somewhere.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So you know that man, I don't know where, but
you know him well.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
When we get to the explanation, I again, I think
we're gonna I think we're going to cross that bridge
because because it kind of all lines up as again,
this really helped. This helped me work through my psyche.
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
This is actually for me personally. This episode was just
for me, very therapeutic.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Thank you so much. You're like, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I will send you the bill, Thank you all the everyone.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That's doing right now. You're gonna get a bill email confidential.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, we accept, We accept, H E B T and check.
If you have cash, just give it to Okay, So
I'm excited. I've told you my my brain. Here. Tell
the creep nation about your dream.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Your dream kind of at least like makes sense a
little bit, y'all. I'm gonna tell you this dream. I
do not judge me. I don't know where this came from.
No teams aren't supposed to make sense, right, all right,
So basically I always start out in a auto mechanic
garage of some sort. I don't work on cars, nobody
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works on cars around me. Why am I this garage?
I'm not sure what we always it's never me. I
never seen me at all, but I know I'm the
one leading the dream, so I'm always just is that
first person pov or is that.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
If you can like look down and see your hands,
that's first. If you're looking from like over the room,
that's third. Yes, I think it's the first.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So because the funny thing about these dreams too is
I've never seen my I've never seen physically anything about me,
but I know I'm there, so there's always just there's
always a door. There's always like people working as I'm
going in. They never say anything to me, they just
let me go through. I go to the door. The
first room is a very bright, cheery, think of like
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a very bright airbnb, like people throw parties at it.
It's always got like a pink decor. Like it's just
there's a vibe always in that room of just very happy,
very go lucky. There's always people in their partying, not
even like crazy party, but there's always people in there.
The thing with this these rooms, though, is nobody ever
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talks to me. I always just go through these rooms
as just the motion that I do every day. It's
like they're used to me being there. Don't know who
any of these people are, but they clearly know that
I'm there. So then I go to the second door.
This room, nothing really stands out about it. It's a
very just you know, just monotone alone, just very general,
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an everyday living room type of situation. You know, now
as you go through the rooms, though, you can definitely
tell that the vibe is very much going a little
more sinister each timea the second room, nobody's really there,
but it's kind of like you go when you go
through the door, you're like, oh, wow, I shouldn't have
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maybe went through this door for a reason, But I
don't feel scared. I'm just like huh. And then I
go further into the third room, and this is when
I transport to the seventies. Don't know why. There's brown
leather couches. It's orange. It's very like wood that's in color.
Yet it is very much I was born in nineteen ninety.
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I don't really know. But but there's always when you
go there, that is when I feel like, oh, I'm
supposed to be here, but there's danger, something is in
here that wants me to be in here that I
shouldn't have been in here. For There's always two chairs,
two brown leather chairs, a table in the middle, and
it's very much like they, whoever whatever, to be honest,
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is inviting me to sit down. I never sit down.
I never sit down. I always when I get to
that third room, and it's very much like a you
have your door in the first room, the woo woo
woo party room. Then on the side, it's always on
the side. Then you go to the middle room that
you're like, oh, okay, it's a little bit of a shift.
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Then you go to the third room, and ever it's
the door on the side, so it's literally like you're
just going side to side the side. And I always,
as soon as I go inside the room, I just
sit there. I even said, I just stand there, and
I'm like, huh, I shouldn't be here. And it's always
like the first thing I see is just the two
leather chairs. It's kind of scary. I'm not gonna lie,
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but the two leather chairs, the table in the middle,
and the leather chairs are facing me. Every single time.
They know I'm coming, they know I'm there. They want
me to sit down, and I snap before I sit
down because I refuse, and I wake up and I'm like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, And the symmetricalness of what you're describing is very
like the shining for everything was symmetrical, like throughout the
whole movie.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I didn't even think about that. Remember, I did not
even think about that, but that that literally when you
just said that, it it's very much on each every
single wall, like the door is on the same side
I go through it. Everything is very symmetrical. But that's
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the first place, the first room that is like a
party party room. Yeah, like everyone always has like Barbie
decorations there, which I never told you. But every now
that we're thinking about the dreams again, it's like it's
always details and stuff. But yeah, like it's literal like party,
very pink, very innocent, very childlike, like very youthful. And
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then it just my youth just goes away.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That's like the further you get.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, that's tripping.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Okay, So man, our brains work totally different and it's awesome,
absolutely awesome. Well, creep Nation, if you are listening to this,
you have reached the end of part one of what
Dreams may Come. To learn about our dreams and our interpretations,
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head over to episode forty, part two, which should be
located somewhere directly near this episode
Dreams in our modern world are simply visions that occur
to us when we are sleeping, more specifically occurring primarily
in rem sleep, during a time when our bodies begin
to do something called rapid eye movements.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Scientists have attempted to decipher these visions for centuries, even millennials.
In modern times, books, lectures, and sleep studies spend countless
hours attempting to crack the code on dreams.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Long before Sigmund Freud wrote his famous book The Interpretation
of Dreams. During a different era, when gods reigned, it
was said that a group of gods and beings were
responsible for delivering these mental images while we slept.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
In the times of a they used a method known
as dream incubation as a means of healing and divination.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Hypnos the god of sleep, born of Nix, the primordial
goddess of the night, donning a crown of poppies on
her chariot across the sky. Nix was also the mother
of Thanados, the god of peaceful death, who was also
closely known as the embodiment of death. Hypnos may sound
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familiar to many because his name is where we get
words like hypnotic and hypnotize. His Greek name literally translates
to sleep. In Avid's Metamorphous, the home of Hypnos is
an underworld cave, a place that the sun never touches.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Outside of his cave entrance is a spray of poppies
and other herbs, but inside is a silent place, without
animals or trees, and not a single whisper of living things.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Within the cave is the underworld River of Oblivion, which
is said to trickle with soft murmuring amid the pebbles
and invite soft sleep. The god Hypnos lies on an
ebony couch with jet black cushions and around him recline.
Amongst dreams, dreams, also known as onioi, were creatures black
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winged entities that appear as visions to a dreamer, taking
various forms human, animal, monster, or object. These various forms
were used to deliver messages and omens to the dreamer.
Homer of the Iliad and Honysty refers specifically to the
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land of Dreams, which, like Hypnos his cave exists in
the underworld. Dreams again may be the creatures and not
just visions he sees while sleeping, but are also referred
to the visions he sees when he slumbers, So.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Which is the ancient poet speak of the creature or
the state of mind.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Another ancient history lesson is that of the practice of
sleep incubation, where a person would intentionally sleep in a
sacred place, such as a temple, in order to invite
a dream.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
The incubated dream could be for a visitation from a
god or a prescription for healing. They would also practice
sleep incubation looking for oracle guidance on something specific.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Preceding the period of sleep incubation would be a series
of rituals up to and including fasting ritual, bathing in
cold spring or river water, and making offerings to Hypnos,
the nouzene and Helios, the god of the sun. Other
practices include attempting sleep incubation in a sound and light
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proof cave. In modern day we use float tanks that
deprive us of sound and light and also provide suspension
in water, allowing our brains to enter different waves. Sleep rituals,
you scoff. Even in modern day we perform our pre
sleep rituals. Don't believe us. Let's define the parameters.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Ritual A religious or solemn ceremony consisting of a series
of actions performed according to a prescribed order.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Every night when you get ready for bed. Isn't there
a series of actions that you perform? So in the
modern day of twenty twenty five, we are still performing
pre sleep rituals in hopes of falling asleep smoothly and
getting to dreamland as fast as possible. When you lay
in bed trying to relax, eyes closed, you wonder to
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yourself what dreams may come?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
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Speaker 1 (06:18):
Subcreeps, and welcome to the live recording of episode forty
What Dreams May Come, And now today we are welcoming
back the owner of Coven of Screams, LLC. And the
creator and curator of Ghouli Con of the premiere horror
Convention of the Greater Cincinnati Area, Joanna, the Supreme of
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the Goolies. Welcome, hello.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I want to steal that too, just so you know.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah right, She's like, I'm keeping that right. So welcome
back and thanks for joining us here on episode. Now, kids,
if you notice, we are in our gammis and we
will be talking about dreams tonight, little bit of history
and then trying to go over our reoccurring dream and
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dissect them.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
We have been.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Working very hard with that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I've learned now that I've known you for a little while,
that dreams are of an interest to you, and I
thought we'd be a good fit for this episode, you know,
with our interpretation and to bring it to the creep nation.
Here about our dreams now today we are going to
embark on a new form of content here at Creepy Confidential.
(07:30):
So this is not our usual sit and chat. It
will be later, but we are going to basically build
this like a normal episode, but live and with a
fellow creep so that is very important. So we are
filming this episode in front of our live virtual audience here,
and just like the usual episodes, this one is researched
and written just like usual, only this time I have
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some help, just like I mentioned, So this will be
a two part episode because we're going to start over
the basic information and then the second part will be
covering more of the breakdown and what our interpretations are
and it's just too much to fit into one episode.
We're going to be answering questions at the end of
the show so that we can kind of focus as
we proceed through. But if you have a question, please
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a part of the creep nation today. So what do
you think dreams are for us now that we've had
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a chance to go through the formal introduction?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I do personally think that they are visions and
away because you have to think about it. When we sleep,
we are basically like paralyzed physically for however many hours.
Where does our soul go? Where does our conscience go?
And I think we go to all types of different
realms and we are trying to go places that our
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spirit wants to go and visit.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, so more of like a spiritual sense. I read
something speaking of that when you said, you know, like
we're paralyzed when they talked about the embodiment of death,
because that is the closest we can get to death
without being dead, is sleeping, which I just happen to
come across that. So I kind of think that it's
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our brain because I just can't help let go of
certain things. How I think science wise is that I
do think it's our brain's way of trying to organize thoughts,
even if it's in a crazy, crazy way. But I
also part of me having said that as I'm this
is a weird example, is I think people or pets
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that I've lost have come to me in a dream.
As I hope, I'm wearing cremation jewelry of my boy
and when he comes to my dreams, I would make
up going he came to see me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So it's yes, so.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Somewhere even though I don't, I don't, but I do,
so I kind of have. I can't let go of
some things, and the other parts are like, but I
think it's kind of a veil area. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So I lost my mom like fifteen, I had to
look at her memorial cord. But she and I've said
this before too, she comes to my dreams all of
the time. And the kind of crazy part of it, obviously,
you're gonna dream about people you lost and loved ones
and things like that. That's human nature. But when she
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talks to me. That's the thing with my dreams is
I have very lucid conversations with people in my dream
and she knows what's going on currently she's like two.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Weeks ago, she's up to date.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's me insane. But then you're like, are
you a damon? You know, I don't know well, and.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I think I think they also might be up to
date because you know what's up to date, So that's
that is true. But I but I agree. You know,
it's like I think I miss I miss him, and
and i've he's and he hasn't shown up in a while,
so part of me is like, maybe he crossed.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
He's sound different.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But that's a whole other conversation. Right, Part three, Part four,
I don't right, We're gonna keep going. This is gonna
be like an ongoing dream conversation here. So the next
question that I have is have because now that you
mentioned you know, we've talked about dream incubation, you know,
I guess a two parts. Have you ever heard of
that before? And have you ever attempted it?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I have not. And the only reason I've not really
attempted to go a lot further in my dream sometimes
is because I am very cautious of if I go
too far, can I come back? Right, we were talking
about in City Is earlier. This is my best friend,
y'all we were talking about in city, talk about a
(12:14):
lot lately, all weird stuff, okay, And I feel like
you can, like you do need to be a little
careful because to me, at least just me personally, that
is another realm. That is another place that you can
invite things in. You can really just you know, get
lost in it. And I don't want to get lost.
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So so you're for you.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's it's control you're not quite ready to let go of,
you know, if there is no control, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay, So now how you talked about, both of us
have a reoccurring dream that we've had for quite some time,
which I think it's cool that somebody else is also
and very different dream, but that it's been going for
quite some time, I guessn't showed up for a little while,
and once I di sected it blew my mindsro my
theor reason? Why how long have you been having your
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recurring dream? With the description you gave me.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, this has been Oh my goodness, it's definitely been
over ten years, for sure. It definitely. It was really
when I think my mom passed is when I started
having trauma specific.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
One emotional trauma.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And it's like she's never shown up in this dream though,
which I'm still this dream confuses the mess out of me.
It's so weird, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It is quite random, and when we get there, it
is quite random. The era the ever like you know
it was. I'm like, oh oh oh.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
But it's maybe I'll I guarantee, I'm my dream about
it tonight, guarantee because we.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Talked the product.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I haven't seen mine in a while, so I.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Hope maybe about it to night.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So it's okay, okay, So right, maybe we're like kind
of stirring up the freshening.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah over here.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Now the creeps, No, I have. I have an odd
love of all kinds of weird movies, not necessarily all
horror movies, because that's kind of your wheelhouse. But mine
is movies that I remember and I will reference for
things Now. I use them as analogies as well when
I talk about like my classes that I'm going to teach,
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or how I explain things. Super excited coming to a
city near you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, the screen Team screen Team and the Bulica will
be there to do.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That to a ticket excited side, you know, sidebar, but
that I use them to talk about these, you know,
different discussions. So I have I have two movies which
I mentioned to you now. The first one is The
Cell with Jennifer Lopez. Had you seen that one yet?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I have not, But when you gave when you sent
me like the poster of it, I was like, I
know which one you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, it was because it was a little while ago.
But this one, if you were into the tech, like
the technology of what they're in the dreams and everything,
and it was kind of a two parter because it
was a serial killer type of movie. So in there,
they have a technology that's been developed to allow people
to travel into people's dreams. Now they need the technology
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to travel into the dreams of a serial killer that
is in a comatose state in an attempt to try
and find his latest victim. The imagery of this movie
is insane. Even if you take Jlo out of it,
the imagery is insane. Now Jlo decides she's willing to
say I'll do it. She's I think she's a social
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worker in the movie, but she is not protected from
being killed or sucked into the dream without too much
spoiler alert, Those things may or may not occur within
this particular film. Now, would you be willing to be
placed in a mind such as this to help find
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a victim such as this with no protection, knowing that
you could die or get sucked into this person's dream?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Oh that's a good creep.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh, I know right, it's like it's like I like
doing this.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Oh my god, it's like you're good at it or something.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Jesus.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh, so part of me is very much and it's
so funny. I have already's like voice in my head,
mind your business, right, But like part of me is like,
but I want to help, but I do, like I
do really believe if you do not go in there
with like a spill or something on you, you are
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about to be taken.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, And this is like this is using science, so
you've got chemicals and everything, you know. And there's like
a little in the movie. You probably have seen that
where she's like clutching her hands like this because there's
an air there's something in her hand that's basically like
a flush, get me out, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
But even then it's like who knows, who knows what?
And the things with dream the dreams, especially with like
insidious and that and the further if I'm not they
they can like you get attacked or they attract two
living things. So as soon as you're in that realm,
you're like, I want to go ahead and get my plushy.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is my vinny for those of you together are watching,
if you're listening at home, I am holding my cute
plushy with my black cat with green eyes.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But I do like, I feel like you are automatically
when you're a living creature, like you are going to
go in that realm and you know, all that attracted
to you because they want that life force.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So it's like and in this one, he's bad. Yeah,
but if you you should watch. If you haven't, if
you need a refresher, I seriously suggest watching it. Yeah,
you're getting a phone call. Listen, listen call from beyond
perhaps hold on, it was a spam number and that
(18:04):
actually just this is what happened last night. Yep, uh huh.
Literally all my little all my little fun little science
experiments are over there in my briefcase.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Oh, this is what happens.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Okay, So I have another wild one for you, and
I'm not sure have you ever. Now, Monkey Bone is
the next one. Have you ever seen this one?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
When I just came out, No.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
No, no, no, this is a Brendan Fraser movie.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yes, listen, I love me some brand.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, and this one and yeah, it's it's it's a
wild wild right.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Wait, I've heard of it though.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Actually it's weird, super duper weird. Yes, But there are
so many references. When I was researching for this, Hypnos
is a character that's in there, and he plays this
like sleazy underworld guy. Like he's like a short, little
goat guy. And he has his creatures that lay on
his bed that look like bees, and that those are
the dreams. And when I first watched it, I did
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not know any of that information. So let's talk about
this one. So Stu Stu, Stu, hold on, stoop scream. Yeah,
another Stu. Stu is a that's Brendan Fraser's character. Stu
is a cartoonist responsible for creating a character called monkey Bone.
Now he is an artist. Uh. Stu's girlfriend is a
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sleep institute worker who has helped him deal with his nightmares.
One night, Stu gets in a car crash and he
falls into a coma. Now, he's he's not just caught
in his own mind, but he's caught. He's caught in
this place called Downtown, which is basically like a land
of sleep, and they and they live and they they
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thrive and eat nightmares, so they want nightmares to happen.
The landscape is filled with mythical creatures and figments of
the sleepgoer's imagination, including monkey Bone, so he de's in
real life in this in this imagination world. Now the
only way out of Downtown is to get an exit pass. Now,
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Hypnos sound familiar, is the ruler of this downtown, and
in order to wake up, he tells Sue he has
to steal an exit pass from his sister Death, who
is played by Whoopy Boldberg Whoopy Goldberg in the movie
who Before before Stu's girl. Now he has to do
this before Stu's girlfriend pulls the plug on his life support,
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because he's in a coma right now, because he's been,
you know, there for a while. Now, Hypnos's twin brother
was Thenado's aka the embodiment of Death, So that's where
that comes from.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
As if that wasn't enough, they are pulled in to
the movie Stu's girlfriend creates a nightmare liquid called o'er
roy sound familiar, right, called the creatures in from the
Mythology story that were dreams. So they used the actual
myology name and and put it in a movie. Now
(21:03):
there's a huge cast of people, uh and uh not.
Not a lot of people seem to know about this movie,
which I don't know why. Now you should. The movie
is nuts, but it really I really had to mention it.
Plus it has Brendan Fraser where he's performing she's a
brack uh while some leather pants. So I strongly suggest
(21:24):
you watch it. So want to hear for creepy stuff.
But we're also girls and be like your movie. So okay,
I think I think this is kind of a good
jump point, would be for us to each talk about
our dreams. So I think I think it's a good
(21:45):
a good part. Now, now do you want to go first?
You're ready? You want me to go first? Okay, You're like,
I want to see I want to see what kind
of craziness is happening here.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I'm ready because your mind is just as crazy as mine.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
So right now I have this reoccurring dream probably started
a little bit after I was out of the military,
So I'll say somewhere around two thousand and five, two
thousand and six, and it's been showing up on and off. However,
I can say it probably hasn't shown its face in
almost a decade that I can remember health, which is
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I've been married for a decade, and I think when
we talk about what's been happening, maybe that's why. So
let's talk about it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'm ready, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
The environment is wispy and feels like a filter is
over everything, but not fuzzy. The exterior of the house
appears to be a Victorian farm home from the late
nineteenth century. It's in an open farm plane kind of
a plot of land kind of surrounding the home, and
(22:53):
it reminds me of like those dust bowl pictures that
you see from that era. So really barren in this
random home, like in the middle of it. It always
starts with me approaching from the front of like walking
up to this home, and I never see the full
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exterior of the house. I only ever see the front door,
and then it's a second story. It's slightly windy outside,
and I can see the kind of silty dirt blowing
over the ground, and I can see the bottom of
my dress and my bare feet. Now, the color of
the dream is almost gray scale, but it almost has
(23:36):
a slight like sepia tone. It's not completely like gray gray.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That's very like dust, bolish, eat.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Very dirt, very earth. Right now, the color of my
dress is the only true color I ever see, and
it is two era correct, it does make sense. It
is a pale chiffon kind of color. And the lilax
and her I always when I when I saw the
dress and the Titanic that she was wearing the night
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that they struck the boat, it looks kind of like that,
but imagine just like cream chiffon and lilac, but dirty
at the bottom. Okay, okay, And it billows from my
waist down and I can I can tell it's me,
but I can't. I don't like, Oh it's me, right,
I yeah. So I walk up and I grab the
(24:25):
handle of the front door, and I'm able to push
it open. It's it's unlocked. And when I walk in,
there is a Grandmother clock that sits next to the
bottom of the steps, like where they start to go up.
So they're like not the big big ones, they're the
ones that are a little bit shorter, and I can
hear it clicking, like I can hear it ticking, but
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I can't make out the time or I am unable
to remember what the time says on the face of
the clock. The clock reminds me I didn't write this
part down, but I remember. The clock reminds me of
the grandmother clock that my grandpa and grandma had in
their house. And my mom now has this clock because
they're they're on, they're right, and I so I can
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hear it clicking. Now once I'm inside, the wind continues
to blow the way that it did outside, even though
the door is closed, and you and I can hear
it exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You can hear that. Oh okay, I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
On the plane, and you can see a little bit
of this silty dirt kind of blowing on the wood
wooden floors. Now I can hear the clock again. But
as I look up, there is a man at the
top of the steps in period clothing matching but not
not fancy but not like house close kind of that
(25:47):
semi formal. Maybe he just got back from getting packages
or like that kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Closed like linen pants, that type of right exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
But it's dark, like a dark suit, got you okay, yep,
And and uh, you know, he has kind of ear
length but wavy hair, kind of like as if it
was dirty you could see, you know, as they didn't
wash their hair a lot kind of has those waves.
And I'm trying to go up the steps. But as
I try to go up the steps, it's slow motion.
(26:15):
It's like my my feet are in quicksand but the
wind still blows at the same speed. Everything else clicks
at the same speed, but I have completely slow as
I go up the steps. Oh now, I never make
(26:37):
out exactly what the gentleman looks like in his face,
like his features, I don't, but I don't feel that
he is a stranger. And there's nobody else inside of
the house. There's no voices, nothing. But it's it's strange
because as soon as I look at him, the dream
switches to first person to a third person, and as
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if someone is standing at the bottom of the steps
watching me and my dress go up in slow motion,
but everything else continue to move at full pace. This
has been happening for a long time, so I have
this baby like memorized. As I get to the top
of the steps. He's standing there, and I put my
(27:20):
hand on his chest like as if you were like
like a loving motion. I do the same thing to
my husband, so it's like almost but I can't tell
I don't have a ring on my hand or anything
like that. The gentleman takes my hand and as we
turn to continue upstairs, I never see the rest of
the upstairs or any other room in the house. The
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clock is starting to chime and I wake up.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And it's so funny because I've heard that for dreams,
nobody is really ever a stranger, even if you don't
know them in your current life either you have been
recarnated and you know.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Like they came from somewhere.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So you know that man, I don't know where, but
you know him well.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
When we get to the explanation, I again, I think
we're gonna I think we're going to cross that bridge
because because it kind of all lines up as again,
this really helped. This helped me work through my psyche.
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
This is actually for me personally. This episode was just
for me, very therapeutic.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Thank you so much. You're like, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I will send you the bill, Thank you all the everyone.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That's doing right now. You're gonna get a bill email confidential.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, we accept, We accept, H E B T and check.
If you have cash, just give it to Okay, So
I'm excited. I've told you my my brain. Here. Tell
the creep nation about your dream.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Your dream kind of at least like makes sense a
little bit, y'all. I'm gonna tell you this dream. I
do not judge me. I don't know where this came from.
No teams aren't supposed to make sense, right, all right,
So basically I always start out in a auto mechanic
garage of some sort. I don't work on cars, nobody
(29:15):
works on cars around me. Why am I this garage?
I'm not sure what we always it's never me. I
never seen me at all, but I know I'm the
one leading the dream, so I'm always just is that
first person pov or is that.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
If you can like look down and see your hands,
that's first. If you're looking from like over the room,
that's third. Yes, I think it's the first.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
So because the funny thing about these dreams too is
I've never seen my I've never seen physically anything about me,
but I know I'm there, so there's always just there's
always a door. There's always like people working as I'm
going in. They never say anything to me, they just
let me go through. I go to the door. The
first room is a very bright, cheery, think of like
(29:58):
a very bright airbnb, like people throw parties at it.
It's always got like a pink decor. Like it's just
there's a vibe always in that room of just very happy,
very go lucky. There's always people in their partying, not
even like crazy party, but there's always people in there.
The thing with this these rooms, though, is nobody ever
(30:20):
talks to me. I always just go through these rooms
as just the motion that I do every day. It's
like they're used to me being there. Don't know who
any of these people are, but they clearly know that
I'm there. So then I go to the second door.
This room, nothing really stands out about it. It's a
very just you know, just monotone alone, just very general,
(30:43):
an everyday living room type of situation. You know, now
as you go through the rooms, though, you can definitely
tell that the vibe is very much going a little
more sinister each timea the second room, nobody's really there,
but it's kind of like you go when you go
through the door, you're like, oh, wow, I shouldn't have
(31:03):
maybe went through this door for a reason, But I
don't feel scared. I'm just like huh. And then I
go further into the third room, and this is when
I transport to the seventies. Don't know why. There's brown
leather couches. It's orange. It's very like wood that's in color.
Yet it is very much I was born in nineteen ninety.
(31:26):
I don't really know. But but there's always when you
go there, that is when I feel like, oh, I'm
supposed to be here, but there's danger, something is in
here that wants me to be in here that I
shouldn't have been in here. For There's always two chairs,
two brown leather chairs, a table in the middle, and
it's very much like they, whoever whatever, to be honest,
(31:49):
is inviting me to sit down. I never sit down.
I never sit down. I always when I get to
that third room, and it's very much like a you
have your door in the first room, the woo woo
woo party room. Then on the side, it's always on
the side. Then you go to the middle room that
you're like, oh, okay, it's a little bit of a shift.
(32:11):
Then you go to the third room, and ever it's
the door on the side, so it's literally like you're
just going side to side the side. And I always,
as soon as I go inside the room, I just
sit there. I even said, I just stand there, and
I'm like, huh, I shouldn't be here. And it's always
like the first thing I see is just the two
leather chairs. It's kind of scary. I'm not gonna lie,
(32:32):
but the two leather chairs, the table in the middle,
and the leather chairs are facing me. Every single time.
They know I'm coming, they know I'm there. They want
me to sit down, and I snap before I sit
down because I refuse, and I wake up and I'm like,
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, And the symmetricalness of what you're describing is very
like the shining for everything was symmetrical, like throughout the
whole movie.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I didn't even think about that. Remember, I did not
even think about that, but that that literally when you
just said that, it it's very much on each every
single wall, like the door is on the same side
I go through it. Everything is very symmetrical. But that's
(33:19):
the first place, the first room that is like a
party party room. Yeah, like everyone always has like Barbie
decorations there, which I never told you. But every now
that we're thinking about the dreams again, it's like it's
always details and stuff. But yeah, like it's literal like party,
very pink, very innocent, very childlike, like very youthful. And
(33:41):
then it just my youth just goes away.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That's like the further you get.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, that's tripping.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Okay, So man, our brains work totally different and it's awesome,
absolutely awesome. Well, creep Nation, if you are listening to this,
you have reached the end of part one of what
Dreams may Come. To learn about our dreams and our interpretations,
(34:10):
head over to episode forty, part two, which should be
located somewhere directly near this episode
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