Till Death Do Us Part

This episode is about the murder of newlywed Cody Johnson.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Laura and I'm Jel and this is.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello everybody. Welcome to today's episode. Hello, So are you
ready to eat diamond? Another one? Yeah? What's it called?
It's called Till Death Duous Part.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, because this is the battle but than a wife thing.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Mm hmm. Let me think in the world America? I
think cool. I'm getting more shocked if it wasn't in America. Yeah,
Montana is in America. I don't know. Now I'm gonna

(00:58):
have to google because.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'm sure it's America, Western the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It is bordered by Idaho to the west, North dakore
and so.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Okay, so the listeners are getting a geography license.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, I'm they're probely like, yeah, we know where it is,
user stupid. Yes, we know we're not we're not the best.
We know certain places, but we're Scottish. You don't know America.
We know Floridas. If you places. I'm not that bad.
I just didn't know that one.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
We're in Montana, Okay, Okay, I read it diving.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, let's dive in or even more.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
So, Cody Lee Johnson and Jordan Lynn and Graham. We're
from a place called Cali Spell, Kelly Spell, Montana. Okay,
it's a country town known as the gateway to the
Glacier National Park in the heart of the Rocky Mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I shouldn't known in the Rocky Mountains. Yeah, I would
have read on a bit and realized, well, this is it.
I remember. This is You're dunbe because you do the
cases and you forget about them.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, yeah, because you know I write. Some of them
are writ like a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Before we record, So this one must have been about
a week and a half ago, so I've forgotten. Shows
you your memories span anyway, So Cody and Jordan had
met at a church lunch and became a couple. Cody
was twenty four and Jordan was twenty one. Cody told
his mum right from the start that.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
He wanted to marry Jordan one day. He was mad
in love with her, and they both wanted children at
some point.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
And people said that they were they were a match
made in heaven, but they were very different. Cody was
in racing cars and shooting, and he loved to make
people happy.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
He was very.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Sociable and they loved hanging night with friends and family.
Jordan was shy, very quiet and reserved. She was religious
and she didn't believe in sex before marriage. So friend
said that she had a good time, and she had
a really good way with kids, and she seemed to
be a good influence on Cody. She got on to

(03:08):
start going to church with her, which and then they
did meet a church lunch.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
But he mustn't have been a church an.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Actual church goer, like, yeah, I think he just was
as big as it is as she was my bear.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, she gone to start going to church anyway, but
she had never done before.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Okay, all right, Okay, so I don't know why I
was at church lunch.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Maybe it was just it was a small time, so
maybe they were just a social thing that was hosted
by the church. Someone and anybody could go. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
So yeah, so in his family thought that was great
because she was, you know, keeping them on the street
and kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
So now, well that all sounds wonderful. It's just gonna
get a bit worse, is that.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
However, However, there's always on somewhere there.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
They sound like, you know, like they were the perfect
match and they were madly in love and they were
meant for each other.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh, I do have one.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
However, Yeah, the relationship seemed to be about one sided.
So Cody put a lot of he put like a
lot of the relationship that Jordan didn't say, we put back.
He always wanted to be with.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Her as you do and do things together, but she
would make excuses.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Not so he was madly aware, but she seemed to
be quite distanced towards him.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
And even when they.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Did go on a date, like she would bring somebody
else with her, she would bring like a friend.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So I never really went on a proper date. That's
not a proper day, is it. No, definitely not.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
And none of their friends like ever saw them being
affectionate towards each other, like not even because obviously.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Like not everybody's like touchy freeliu.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
No, they weren't even like flirt areas in towards each other,
you know, there.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was just.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Nothing like they could see that Cody was in into Jordan,
which didn't You could see that she just wasn't.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
She wasn't into him. That so just after so I
don't know why they were together. Why are they together?
Just over a year of them being together.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
In twenty thirteen, Cody proposed and Jordan accepted, which is.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Even more stener then.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean, even their friends, you know, they were surprised.
They didn't expect her to say yes. And because as
I said, they didn't even think that she was attracted
to Cody, and she didn't enjoy planning a wedding though,
So it's thought that maybe she liked the idea of
having a wedding and she liked the idea of being married.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Because she's a church scorer, she believes in the faith.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, maybe she thinks or believes that's what's expected on her,
and maybe she's supposed to want.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
All that, but like real in reality, I just don't
think she really wanted to. I don't know if it
was him that she didn't want to be with, or
if she just didn't want to get married a tall
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I mean to me, it sounds like it's him, So
it does. It's like, well, why not find somebody else?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Then? Oh? Yeah, stay with the happy. I mean I
know that, you know, you don't told me know the
full situation or are we going to know the full situation?
I don't know. I wrote this week and I happened,
all right, we'll find out together there.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm telling you, sometimes it's like listen the story all
over again for the first time.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's what I meant, because I just realized I didn't
take the first That's why I said that.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
So yeah, So she did ask her maid of honor
a couple of times if she thought if she thought
that she was.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Making the right decision, so you know, it didn't.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Look like she had sometimes, but she never discussed them
Cody and the wedding went ahead.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
So, I mean, I would have hated to be at
this water because on the day the guests were.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Surprised at the way Jordan was acting. She cried hysterically.
I mean, I know something right, have a teat in
their eye. You don't get a bit of moddog I had.
But she cried hysterically while walking down the aisle, and
when they were holding hands that you know, to the ceremony,
like getting actually being my She didn't even look.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
At Cody, like she didn't even look them in the actor.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Do you think she was crying stead because she actually
realized what she was. She just didn't want to be
there there everybody else realized that.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I imagine being at that when I'd be like, do
you need to go, come on, let's go.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
But yeah, so when they were when they were in
the process of being married, like she just kept looking
at the ground. I mean, you're supposed to be staying
in lovely, Yes, exactly, although I don't think I had it,
because I'm sure I would.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Ever looked at John. I just started just wanted to laugh.
But you know that's just because that's just me. I'm stockword.
But yeah, I wouldn't be looking at the ground.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Later on, at the reception, they dance to a song
that Jordan had actually recorded. She had actually sung this song,
and they were there were lines about climbing to a
higher place, but.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You fall and you're still mine. That was like some
of the lyrics. I's just say the lyrics, not lines.
So just remember that, yeah later because if I.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Recall, if we recall right late later, I don't think
I referred back to that.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I'm telling you you remember it because climbing to
a higher place, but you fall and you're still ning.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
So the morning after the wedding, Jordan texted are made
of Honor Kimberly and said, quote, I don't know if
this was if.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
All this was the right thing to do.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Really, so much happened last night. I just don't know
en quote, And Kimberly.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Replied, like last night at the wedding or last night
in your in your room, like she wasn't quite sure
what she meant, and Jordan said, being married and after
the wedding, So Kimberly asked, obviously, asked what happened, as
you would, and Jordan said, quote, I'd rather talk about
what happened, not text about it.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
End quote.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
So when they talked to a couple of days later,
Kimberly said, Jordan just told her it was a miserable
time and they didn't enjoy it, and she didn't seem happy,
but she never told her exactly what happened. I actually
thought when I said they didn't enjoy it, I thought
she might maybe sex, you know, because it's.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Their wedding night.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yes, she didn't believe in sex for a marriage, so
they wouldn't have That would have been their first first time.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
But spoiler alert, they've never had sex. Okay, they never
had sex, So I don't know what she meant by
that unless they were trying to it didn't work out.
Maybe maybe I don't know, but so I don't know
what actually what that was all about. So Jordan had
she came over Kimberly's house and she just lay on

(09:43):
the couch and cried. Kimberly tried to get the top,
but she wouldn't tell you anything.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean, after your wedding, A couple of days after
your weddings, the happiest time of your life, exactly, you're
almost to be your pal's couch crying.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
No, I thought, so you think that she could.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Have just got their wedding an old because i' ultimated, Yeah,
you don't think so anyway, So during that first week
after the wedding, Jordan and Kimberly were texting each other,
and in each text, Jordan just.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Sounded more and more miserable. One text said, I just
know he's going to want to do stuff and I'm
not really wanting to. So they still.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Had sex, So basically she she didn't want to have sex,
well because he obviously was.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Now they've been married.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
He was like, well now we can Well, well, yeah,
you'd be expecting it because they were married, and because
she'd be holding off for this lot.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
And another text said, using my using that my period
started spiel tonight.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I freaking hope it works, because if I'm forced to
do something, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
To freak out. So it's thought that Cody and Jordan's
marriage was never consummated, and not even on their.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Wedding night, which would mean that they had never had
sex because Jordan didn't believe sex before marriage.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Eight days after the wedd and Cody went missing. His
family reported in his disappearance to the place when he hadn't.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Turned up to work as it was totally a character
and when they started asking around, they realized that nobody.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Had seen him.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
But weirdly, his wife, Jordan, didn't seem too bothered. So
her friend, Jordan's friend had saw it at work and
she was She said she was as happy as can be.
The friend said that was actually the happiest that she
had ever seen Jordan. She was like skipping about at.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Work, you know, like, why is she happy? Yeah, no
question is that Cody's going to miss in and now
she's happy? I know, But like obviously we know we're yes,
and what's happened here?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Why would you be acting happy? Like if you wanted,
if you're going to have done something to somebody, you
want to get away with it. You need to be
acting like the what he's and upset.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Why if people have noticed that you've been so miserable
after we're getting married and then all of a sudden
he's got missing and you're happy.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
That doesn't look like to me, I mean, there's no
rocket hacked. No exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
So Cody had last been seen the day before before that,
having dinner at a dairy queen with Jordan after being
at church.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Jordan said after that they went they went home together, and.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
She said that later he went out to the garage
and when he didn't come back after a little while,
she went to see what he was doing, and he
wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
She looked up and saw him.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Leaving with some friend in a black car with Washington Place.
So the next day, Jordan was questioned by.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Police for the station.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
They asked him about the friends that he'd gone off with,
and she said hashtag.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Why am I saying hashtag? I went quote it looked
like a halftag.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Quote she said, quote, Well, I got a message saying
that he was going to go for a ride with
his out of town buddy that were visiting.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I have no idea, I have no idea who they are,
who they were, But he always told.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Me this one thing is when his friends came to visit,
he would take them to Glacier Park.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Her friend, the one, the one from work.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I'd asked her if they were fighting when he when
he had left, and Jordan, it's like nah, And she
told the police the same thing.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
But earlier she told Kimberly her made honor and that
they did have a fine seriously right, just like a
story straight.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
She she told Kimberly that they had been arguing and
Cody had held her down, she had managed to get
away from him, and that he had grabbed her.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Keys and scratched her with from So you know, that's
a bit suss, like she's telling one person because.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
That's how that's her best prime of maid of honor.
But you think that she's going to tell her the truth,
be more truthful with her. I mean, so it's just
a friend at work. I mean, you don't always tell
your colleagueshipthing.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It worked, But yeah, I'm not sure if they were
actually friends and where colleagues are if they were just
I'm not quite sure they could do actually been prints
as well as working together.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I mean she told the police that they didn't
have that they weren't fire So, whoever, you're almost stick
to the story. If you're tell him the truth, then
it's always going to be the same. That's why it's
always a not the truth. If you're lying, there's always anyway.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
So when Cody had been missing for two days, Jordan's
friends and family members gathered at their house just to
try and.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Figure out where he was. They were checking his Facebook
page to see if he posted about maybe going somewhere,
and they were asking Jordan if she had his.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Bank details so maybe they could check to see like
they used his car, you know, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
But like Jordans just seemed uncomfortable. The more people asked
her stuff, the more agitated.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
She would get in.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
And at one point, Jordan's got so upset that she
took her wedding ring off and threw it across the room.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
This is not what I say.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
If my husband was missing, I would be clinging.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
On my wedding rings, you know what You'd be like,
you'd be looking at them and twirling little or whatever.
So obviously our family and friends were confused. They assumed
that she would be desperate to find out what was
going on and find it where.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Her husband was as Yeah, so Kimberly was getting really suspicious.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
So when she got home that day, because she'd been there,
and she called Jordan and asked what was going on.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Like why was her story change in?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Like why couldn't she see me tell them truth? But
Jordan just didn't give her any answers. So Kimberly told
her that that they were done.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Talking until I was figured out, because she knew something
was going on, right, that's that, you know, I'm not
a part of it.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, Mom, notts figured out. So the police were suspicious
as well. They said that they had spoken to other people,
so they knew about the inconsistencies.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But she said that she was only telling them what
she knew. I did actually see some footage of her police.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Interviews, and she just had, you know, she had no
emotion whatsoever. She was sitting there way like she was barefoot,
and you know, at one point she had like her
foot was up on.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
The chair, and another times she was certainly just slumped
where her arms folded like you know, I don't want
to be here, like yeah, like like she sounds like
a spoiled like I was just I think that I was.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Just trying to think what she reminded me of.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
She reminded me of like a teenager, Like like a
teenager that's got the hump. Yeah, there's some trouble or something.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
And yeah, that's what she reminded me of. And like
it just looked like it was just a big inconvenience. Yeah.
And then Jordan got an email, so I think that
that was four days after Cody disappeared. So this email
was from a guy calling himself Tony the Caraman. I
don't know why he was called Toning the car I
don't know why he wasn't just called Tony. Tony the

(16:59):
Caraman came man.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Right the start of the email read quote, Hello, Jordan,
my name is Tony.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
There is no bother in looking for Cody anymore. He's gone.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
And then he went on to say that Cody was
dead because he had accidentally fell off a cliff at
Chlistia National Park when he was hiking with.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
His friends from out of state. Right, yeah, I know
exactly what you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
So she told one of her friends that she had
got an email and that Cody was dead, and there
was just no emotion at all, no tears, nothing, just.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
God is dead. But if you've fallen off the cliff,
where's his body? As also an accident, why wouldn't somebody
let the boost to that? So he told you to
know what you're thinking, it was?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It was her friend actually had to tell her about.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
The police because she wasn't even gonna go to the place.
Like she just told her friends that she got this email.
Cody was dead.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
That was that, and that was that.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
And this girl was like, what are you hanging around
for the dig your arse down at that place station
and tell.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Him exactly, you know, show them the email exactly. So
the email, but the email just made the police.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
More suspicious of Jordan because you know, obviously if it being.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
An accident, why didn't his friends report it? Of course,
and in this email, this Tony.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Tony Karma told Jordan to tell the police to stop
stop searching for Cody because that's what's happened to him.
So like the police are just going to say, Okay,
this guy's dead, we don't.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Need to live for him anymore, you know, like duh,
that's just ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Really, you need to find the body exactly, you can
establish what's actually happened, whether it was an accent or not,
and then of course the family would want the body
actual they could have refusal to of course, no, apparently
the obviously like well, she also she just sounds very immature.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
She's quite one. I don't know, I mean, it's quite it's.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Very immature, and well, amateur is not kind of what
I was, like, I was anymore stupid.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Right, No, she's not got the brain cells to think.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah, I mean, if you know, we're assuming that she's
done something to Cody, then.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
She's like, why is she telling different stories? And I
mean why she honestly thinks that just because somebody has
said that Cody is dead, that the police don't need
to look anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Oh yeah, we're just gonna go Okay, then that's fine,
We're just gonna go to our next case.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
There, let's forget that one.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
So yeah, After receiving the email, Jordan decided to take
some friends and family with her to the Glacier National
Park to carry her sets for Cody. But she was
acting like it was no big deal, and like as
they were driving there, she was acting like it was.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
A road trip, Like she was waving her arm out
of the window. She was laughing. She was wearing Cody's sunglasses,
and she was driving his car. You know, just like
a normal day road trip. You know, I like what
rochrips fipe my husband's body, right, that sounds like a
great day. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
So when they got there, they put up missing posters
and they looked like for possible places for where Cody
could have fallen.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Their shirts. Was unsuccessful that day, so they went back
the following day. But this day was different.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Jordan's friend she was saying, like, why don't we, you know,
sort of try it this way, or what about down
here or down that way, like pointed to all the
different trails and passed.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But Jordan just said, no, I know this spot. I
think I just think that's where he is. We have
to go there. So the drop to an area alone.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Is the loop and there's a sheer three hundred foot
drop with it, and it's got a safety wall.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
And Jordan's said, I think he's down there, right, And
the friend was like, what you talk about? Like, why
would they ever be going down there? That wall is
there for a reason.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
We had the same wall, right, And Jordan jumped the
wall and made her way to like a rock landed
where she could see down to the bottom of the ravene.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
And it was like she knew exactly how to get there.
And funnily enough, she spotted a body at the bottom
of the ravene. Oh my god, sorry, I mean she well,
she clearly knew he was there.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Can I just tell her listeners that one was not
laughing at the fact that there's a dead body.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Definitely, I'm laughing at the way he is laughing. And
I was like, oh, of course not. I'm laughing at
the fact that she knew exactly where.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
It was like the way that she's going on there like, oh,
he's down here, It's like, well, no, you knew obviously
you were tacked it like.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Because I said, like she had to jump over the
safety wall, go down a bit to this like rocket
bit and then look right down. And they were being
to say, you know, in the body and so buddy
to body. Sorry I mister bitt right.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
So the Sarch party a letter of deathorities.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
And one one the one thing that Jordan said was
that the ball Is spirit led her to know where
Cody was and that's how she found up.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
So it was the Wally spirit that led her there,
not the fact that she had done anything to him,
And she also said that that was a place that
Cody wanted to see before he died. So obviously the
police got okay whatever, and yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Months since, Yeah, so Cody's body was recovered. It was
floating in the water and the place could.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Tell that Ed fell head first.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
He had injuries to both arms into his head. His
family and friends obviously were obviously devastated. But Jordan, she
just she just didn't shed a tear and she appeared
to be relieved, and she said to her friend, now
that we have the body, we can have the funeral
and the.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Cops can be out of it. Obviously, she couldn't have
been more wrong. So by now we know obviously, I
mean she's somebody's got to do it right.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
So basically the reason that she's went and found the
body is because she's realized that the email didn't work.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Because she thought the email was going to work, that
the police we're going to stop looking. So she's realized
that the plaice are going to continue looking.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
So that's why she's went and pointed the bay. Yeah,
because she's like, well, the sooner we get the body.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Recovered, we can have the funeral and that'll be over
and done with. Yeah, no, that's not gonna work, there
is it. It's not gonna work. So sixteen days.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
After their wedding, it was Cody's funeral, sixteen days after
they got married, which is supposed to be the happiest days.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Like, well, he probably thought it was the happiest day
of his life at some point because he was the
one who was back in love with her.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
And sixteen later, sixteen days later, this is wasn't awful,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
So?

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Remember I said that the guests couldn't believe how Jordan
was acting at her wedding because she was upset, second
crying hysterically, and well, at the.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Funeral, she was the opposite. She was acting how she
should have been at her wedding day. Oh right, okay,
she was like just seemed happy and carefree, you know,
happy and smile, and that's how she should have been
at her wedding and the cry and yet.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Probably around and during the service she was even texting
on her phone.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
How disrespectful that is that that's very different. That is
absolutely awful.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Maybe she's possibly being body text on her phone somebody
who wasn't at the funeral.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh, clearly, but I have no idea. Kimberly, you know,
remember her maid of honor, Kimberley.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
She said that that's when she knew that Jordan was
responsible for Cody's death.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
And apparently she wasn't the only one. Like basically everyone
was just looking at Jordan in the way that she
was behaving at the funeral, and it was like, it
was all nice play at last.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Haven't maybe a Redstadan before that?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well they had, they must have had enough evidence to
do it, so but yeah, everybody was sort of looking
at her and going, you know, she was no grieving
widow like most of them this know, seeing the way
that she was behaving, it all kind of fell into place.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Everybody. Most of them were like, right, yeah, she's she's
just wanted in the place. So the police, the police
actually had managed to gather enough damnine evidence against Jordan
to arrest her for killing her.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Husband, and they could have done it at the funeral,
but they were like, nah, we'll just yeah, to be respectful.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, we'll later go through the fie.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I don't know why the didn't do it before the funeral,
but but yeah, she she had no idea. She thought
everyone was going to be all right and she was
going to get.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Away with it. And she didn't know that the police.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Had determined that the email Shana Carle was received from
Tony the Caravan was a fake.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
They found out that the email came from Jordan's stepdad's
house and that Jordana wrote it herself. So she always
thought going to somebody else's house making up an email,
reading up an email, they weren't going to be able
to trace it back.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
And a police had also uncovered eminence that Jordan was
with Cody at Clicia National Park the night that I died,
which I said it was only eight days after their wedding,
eight a week after their wedder, so she obviously didn't realize.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
That there was a surveillance camera camera at the entrance
to the park. So Cody, I don't know how he
was why she's getting led from. I didn't realize that
that was the thing until I started doing a podcast.
I didn't realize that I got people's naars on red HM.
So yeah, so they were sheen on.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
The Sabelli Stanner and also the cell phone tower records
also placed Jordan and Cody at the.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Park that night. So I'm just assumed that getting all
this information obviously must have took Yeah, that took time,
which is why they didn't couldn't sort of arrest her
straight away.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
So the FBI to Jordan and a custody soon after
Cody's funeral. They told her she was under our nest
for the murder of her husband. And she just didn't
even flint, you know, as before, just no mote in,
just nothing.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
But eventually she did. She broke down and cried when
she realized that she wasn't getting away with it. That's
all the time that she cried because she was presented
because at first she was just I think she just
still thought she'd probably just have a question that should
get away. Yeah, but when she was presented with the
overwhelming evidence against her and she knew that she couldn't
lie her way out.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Of it, that's when she broke down. Okay, she got caught,
So then she confessed all to the FBI. She said
that she hadn't been happy in her eight day marriage.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Well, let's put her shops that hadn't been happy before that,
so she should have just broken off with them and
not went through with it and let them would look
his bloody life.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
She said, quote, I.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Kind of was feeling should we have waited a little
bit longer and then got married.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I wasn't feeling like I was on cloud nine end quote.
She also admitted that har and Cody had been arguing
at home on the night of his death. I don't
know why they decided to go to the Ulisia National Part.
Maybe they just decided to go for a walk to
clear their heads or something, because I think they went there.
They did go there quite often.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
And which yeah, because you know, Cody did go willing
where the both of them went willing. So they got
to the loop and they walked across the road and
down the loop trail. She then said to Cody, quote
I don't I didn't want. She shouldn't say to Cody,
she well.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Start again. I'll start that paragraph again because this is
her being interviewed.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
She then said, quote, I did want to do that
trail because I was afraid that he could fall.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
End quote. It was like she said that he could fall,
not that he could follow you. And he said.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Cody said, quote I could do it with a blindfold on,
And he said quote I could just put it on,
take a.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Step and I wouldn't even fall parentless, is what he said.
And she said it kept going through my head that
you know, you're going to follow or something. And then
we were.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Arguing some more and he went to grab my arm
and my jacket and I said no, I'm going to
defend myself. So I said, let bot and I pushed
and he went over. So they were having an argument
and he went to grab her.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
She was like, no, I get off me and pushed on.
And although that sounded really odd that Cody was.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Talking about putting a blindfold on and walking around this
dangerous part. Yeah, a black frag that could have been
a blindfold was actually found his body at the bottom
of the robin, so she could have been telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
But of course she's the only person who knows, so
they don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I don't know, but it just does seem a bit
odd that he would be talking about walking Blakeholder.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
But maybe he could. Maybe he had could have had
a handca or something in his pocket and he's like look,
or maybe she was like, well doing push off. The
funny you say that because my next sentence, the lead detective.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Believes that Jordan may have blindfolded Cody as part.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Of a sex game, but that I think, But if
they've never had sex before, that would be kind of
a big leap to that, and she was so reserved
and yeah, I didn't believe in sex before marriage. Still
hasn't had sex.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
But I'm getting a bit and thinking that this is
I don't know, but yeah, I mean, like he think, well,
that's what the detective thinks.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
So it was part of a sex game to lure
him in a national park, is he had? He had
statements from church friends who were who were with Cody
earlier that day.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
These church friends stated that Cody was in an almost
euphoric mood, and he told his friends that the reason
for being in such good mood was because Jordan had.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
A surprise for him, and they thought that the surprise
could have been sex. And the theory, as I said,
the theory that Cody may have been blindfolded, though that
could never be polling. But I was surprise blindfolded.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
So but then that makes it sound like it was
too meditate, then, doesn't it. If she had a surprise
for m and was well in her confession, Jordan denied.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
That the murder was premeditated, but she also stated that
it was no accident.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Okay, So she said that Cody had turned his back
to her and he was facing the cliff, and she
just went up to him and with both hands pushed
him in the back and off the cliff.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
So that's just changed her story and what she said.
She just said something else different.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
He said she said that he grabbed her, and she
showed her pushed off, so that sounds like he was
going backwards.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
She's saying that she pushed him in the back, and
that's what you know.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
As I said earlier, when they when they recovered the body,
it was they had felt forward.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
So that must have been the truth. She her reason
for doing it was that because emotions were running so high.
She was frustrated, she was angry, she was every emotion
she could ever think of, all at once.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
O Jordan was charged with a first degree.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Murder, second degree murder, and making miss leading the statements.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
I don't know if I've just been super but I
didn't realize that you could get charged with both first
and second degree.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Murder at the same time. I thought there was one
or the other. I mean, unless I've read that wrong.
So I don't know, I don't I don't really understand that.
The Americans sort of no, she played, she played not guilty,
but then she changed her plagiar in the trial and
played guilty to second degree murder. She was and it
stood thirty years in the federal prison with no chance

(32:04):
of That's it.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
So she basically got married to somebody that she didn't
want it and then killed him because she didn't want
to be with them. Whereas if she just hadn't got
married to her in the first place, or had the
marriage an out.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yes, they didn't need to happen. Another needless murder?

Speaker 8 (32:24):
Do we always say murder is never the answer, Like
if you're not happy, like I know, it's maybe not
easy probably you know, to get out of her relationship,
but surely that's still better than murdering somebody.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
And the way that she tried to get away with
it as well was just absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
I mean, what.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
If she did if it was just a spur of
the moment thing and she just pushed him off, she
could have went straight to the place.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And just said, look, me and my husband went for
a walk.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
We had an argument, there was a bitter struggle, yeah,
and swell off the clip. Yeah, and then maybe maybe
she still would have got I think she was still
got done for it. Maybe not, but yeah, but it
would have been more of a not they wouldn't have
been thinking because she obviously she tried to cover her
up because you know, it should have been premeditated, because

(33:15):
she planned a surprise.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
She only got as much time.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
For it, and I think, yeah, probably would have something,
but yeah, but yeah, it wouldn't have been quite as bad.
But the fact that she tried to, you know, send
herself an email and stuff like that, and then all
of a sudden she knew where to look for him.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
And I just think it's ridiculous that she actually thought
that because he was dead, they were gonna.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Because she she told the police he was dead, they
weren't gonna look for him anymore. Yeah, And all the
way through it until she was arrested, she thought she
was getting going to get.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Away with that.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
So, yeah, just don't get married if you don't want to. Oh, yeah, exactly.
I mean that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I mean, do you know, if you don't want to
be in a relationship as difficult as it is, it's weird.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
It's funny though, because it's not funny, but we are
that she went through the whole.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Thing because it sounded like she didn't want to be
with him at any time.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
So you could maybe understand if they'd been together for
a while and like she had been happy.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
At first and then sort.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Of been like, oh, I'm not really feeling this, but
it just sounds like she was never So why does
she put herself through that?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Why did she lead him on? Why?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Why does she feel like she had told when he
asked marry her she could say no, do you know
what else? I was wandering a bilbow? Why did he
ask her to marry I'm like, did he? I mean
as a married woman, then I don't think my husband would.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Have asked me in my if he wasn't getting the
same vibe back, Like, if you're going to ask something
to marry you, surely you must have some idea that
they're they're gonna want it.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, the relationships going well in a place where you
feel like you're both feeling that's the next step.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I mean, it just seems weird too. If she's not
given him any affection, well, yeah, what does he think.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
But then maybe maybe he thought that that would come
after they got married, because she didn't want to have
sex before.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Ye, so maybe he assumed that if they got married,
then then the affection the sex.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Maybe she promised that to him, Yeah, and she thought
and then obviously maybe then the realization of getting married
and thought, oh, ship, I've actually got.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
To like go through go through this, the affectionate And
I don't know, but it's a weird one, weird one.
It doesn't you know, there was just no need. No,
there's never therefitely that there was. There wasn't even need
to get married. It's always a better answer to the
killing somebody. Let's be honest, I just don't don't have
a relationship with somebody, don't want exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Even if it's like a hard, you know, break up
and it's not nice and it's horrible, it's it's still
better than you end in someone's life. And then well,
you've actually affected your own life because you're being up in.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Prison for it.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
And it's weird because he sounds like a nice gang.
He doesn't sound like he was bad in the marriage.
The only thing I've kind of wondered about though, was
the wedding night, yeah happened. Yeah, because she said it
was really bad. I mean, like, but from what we know,
there was no any kind of abuse or ending in
the marriage. You know, he wasn't abuse of her ending,
and everyone who said that was just such a really
nice if he died after the wedding and a lot

(36:10):
of time becomes but I'm just wondered about the wedding night.
I didn't wonder what happened.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
But well, that's that. We're mad. Now now we can
have sex. Well, maybe he tried it, and maybe she's
didn't want to didn't want it, and maybe she's like
got upset by that. But yeah, so there you go.
That's her. That's today's episode. Well, there you go.

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