September 13, 2023 • 35 mins
In Forest Park, Georgia in April 2010, 15 year old Candice Parchment went missing. Her remains were discovered 7 months later not far from her home. It would be another year after that before her family and the community would get the answers to their questions about what happened to her. Candice named Marshae Hickman and Jermaine Robinson as her attackers in a diary entry from a few months before she went missing and that was just the break the police needed to break her murder case wide open.
Sources for this episode:
Wikipedia - Forest Park, Georgia
The US Sun - Five most chilling Candice Parchment murder details revealed in documentary from dark diary entry to violent attack
ABC News - Georgia: Murdered Teen Girl's Diary Leads to Alleged Killer
WSB TV - Man ofund guilty of murdering teenage girl
The Atlanta-Journal Constitution - Authorities: Diary leads to alleged killer of missing teen
Hickman v. The State (2016)
The Cinemaholic - Candice Parchment Murder: Where are Marshae Hickman and Jermaine Robinson Now?Support the show
Sources for this episode:
Wikipedia - Forest Park, Georgia
The US Sun - Five most chilling Candice Parchment murder details revealed in documentary from dark diary entry to violent attack
ABC News - Georgia: Murdered Teen Girl's Diary Leads to Alleged Killer
WSB TV - Man ofund guilty of murdering teenage girl
The Atlanta-Journal Constitution - Authorities: Diary leads to alleged killer of missing teen
Hickman v. The State (2016)
The Cinemaholic - Candice Parchment Murder: Where are Marshae Hickman and Jermaine Robinson Now?Support the show
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We're gonna tell you some stories you'veheard, some of you haven't,
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little bit of relief, got alittle bit of rain, I'm just saying,
and our temperatures dropped. I don'tknow about your but we did not
even reach one hundred today. Wedid, we did, but and we
do not have a hundred on thenext ten day forecast. Yeah, on
the next ten day forecast, everythingis tomorrow. Today was our hottest day
at like ninety eight. Tomorrow islow nineties and then after that, no
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nineties. Wow, Well, you'redoing better than we are, because you
know, we've got a few ninetiesstrung out here and there. I think
it did reach right close to onehundred today, but we've got nineties the
next couple of days, and thenin the eighties, and then next week
starting ninety again. But yeah,no triple digits, and so I'm happy
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about that. Dude, I'm goingto be in the seventies. Good for
you. So we have, butthen they've changed it, like every time
I look at the forecast, theychange it, and so now it's in
the eighties. I have nothing inthe seventies. Ours is in the seventies.
So I'm feeling pretty froggy. I'mfeeling a lot better. Maybe my
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dog will quit being a vampire dog. Yes, yes, that would be
really awesome. So, well,what's in your mug this week? Well,
in my mug, I actually didnot go to the boxopods. I
actually just got a pod that Ihad. It's the Cafe Bustillo. It's
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the espresso style, so it's reallykind of strong. I like it though
I'm digging a good strong coffee occasionally, so I felt I had to put
a little extra French vanilla creamer init because it's espresso style, so of
course it's going to be strong,but but it's good. I like it.
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I really really like it. What'sin your mug today. Not what
you think. Oh, we havean adult beverage in your mug today.
I got adventurous with my coffee though, No, you did not, Yes
I did. I ordered another flavorfrom Bones Coffee Company. It is the
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Haunted There. It's a Disney lineof coffee. It's Haunted Mansion and it's
called Brownie from Beyond. Oh mygoodness, I'm digging it already. And
it's supposed to be like a caramelbrownie flavor. I don't like it.
Oh, it's got cinnamon flavor toit. Oh, I like cinnamon.
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I like cinnamon. I don't likecinnamon in my coffee. I don't mind
it if it's just a slight hintit just so it warms you up a
little little too cinnamony, cinnamon,cinnamon. Yeah, yeah, too much
of that in it? Gotcha?Too much cinnamon for me. Oh,
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I can tell you. I don'tknow when it will be. Apparently my
husband knows someone going on vacation orgoing on a trip to Orto Rico.
I think, oh, it's notus, not us. We're gonna have
a lot to talk about soon.But anyway, going to Puerto Rico and
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ask if we wanted anything brought backspecific and of course I popped up coffee
so I might get some kind ofcoffee from Puerto Rico. When I don't
even know who it was he wastalking to. I'm just screaming coffee.
So and I don't know when he'sgoing or this person's going at all,
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so you know, maybe I'll havesomething new like that besides the the boxopoxopods,
because I'm afraid most everything I'm gonnahave left in there is going to
be some peppermint, I mean,some pumpkins something and yeah, so but
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I don't know. We'll see,we'll see. Not right, Well,
I have a case for us today. Okay I didn't. I've got the
espresso style coffee, but I don'thave anything else in it. But well,
you know what, so you havethe espresso coffee, so you've got
all this energy and you're gonna haveto like funnel it to the anger that
you're going to get for this case. Oh okay, all right, I'm
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ready then let's okay, let's doit. We are going to go to
Forest Park, Georgia m Forest Parkis located in Clayton County and it's about
nine miles or so south of Atlanta. It was incorporated in nineteen oh eight,
and it was named for the parklike setting of the original town site.
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Hm. The population in two thousandand ten it was about eighteen thousand,
five hundred. Oh you ever takea few Okay, We're gonna talk
about a young lady named Candice Parchmentin twenty ten. She was fifteen year
old girl. She had moved intwo thousand and eight from Jamaica to America
with her mother. She was supersuper close with her mom. Her sister
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stayed her older sister stayed back inJamaica. She was a freshman at Forest
Park High School. She was outgoing. She was an aspiring writer. She
had a bright smile. She wasa math tutor at the middle school.
I'm a girl, I do girlmath. Math doesn't make a whole lot
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of sense to me, So superkudos to her for being a math tutor.
Yeah, good, good job.She was in the JROTC. She
had been in the marching band ather last high school before she transferred to
Forest Park High School. I'm thinkingmaybe she wasn't in the marching band at
Forest Park High School because I knowsometimes when you transfer in after the first
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of the school year. You know, you've already missed out on band camp
and you know, even though youwere in it at last school, it's
different routines, act like, becausein band camp that's when you start learning
that year's routines and songs and stufflike that. Right, she made friends
really, really easily, and hermom did say she was a little bit
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naive though, m okay, well, I mean I get it. Things
totally different from Jamaica to the UnitedStates in Georgia, and you know,
so I get it. I getwhere she can be naive. So it
was on January fifth, twenty ten, Candace's mom came home kind of late
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from work and she got a littleworried when she realized that Candace wasn't home.
No, she started calling her phone, but she wasn't getting any answer.
So she and her fiance got intoCandace's mom's car and started driving around
looking for still calling her, youknow, back to back to back,
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trying to get a hold of herand find out where she was, right,
because this was totally not like Candiceat all. And they're driving around
the neighborhood and there's this section thathad you know, some abandoned houses or
whatever, and they're looking, youknow, as they're driving by, they're
looking in these abandoned houses because imean, let's face it, teenagers,
no matter how good they are,teenagers or teenagers, and they do dumb
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teenager things sometimes. Absolutely yes.So she's like, you know what,
I'm not going to ignore the factthat she could be in one of these
abandoned houses being a dumb teenager,even though that's out of character for her,
She's still a teenager, right well. Candice finally answered her phone on
one of these phone calls that hermom made, and her mom said it
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sounded like someone was trying to wrestlethe phone away from her, and Candace
is like, you know, hey, mom, this is where I'm at.
And it happened to be one ofthe abandoned houses where Candae's mom was
closed to. So she pulls intothe driveway and she sees some people moving
around inside and Candice comes running outand she jumps in the car and she's
all freaked out. Her mom's like, dude, what what happened? And
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Candice told her mom, you knowthat a couple of people had attacked her
and tried to rape her. Ohno, And her mom said, excuse
me, who were these guys?And Candace refused to tell her mom who
they were. And Candace's mom said, okay, well, we need to
go to the cops. We needto tell the cops. You need to
talk to the cops. And Candacewas like, I'm not talking to nobody,
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Like I'm not, I'm no pulpsre sealed. Nope, she it's
over with. It's over, youknow. Don't worry about it, mom,
It's fine. Nope, Nope,you need you need to do something.
Candae, Well, her mom kepttalking over and over to her,
you know, trying to get herto tell her who these guys were that
had attacked her, and Candace refusedto name them. She just she would
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not tell her mom the names.So that tells me that Candice knew who
these people were. We'll get tothat, okay. Well, even though
Candice wouldn't tell her mom or thecops who had tried to rape her,
she did tell a friend at school. Okay, this friend, and she
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told the friend who these guys were. This friend went up to one of
the people that Candae named and said, bro, you stay away from Candice.
Or I'm gonna kick your ass.Don't be a douche, okay,
like Mance, chill, bro don'tWell. This guy went to the other
guy that he had attacked, thathe had attacked Candice with, and said,
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look, Candice is talking. She'stold at least one person. And
the other guy said, you knowwhat, don't worry about it, nothing
to worry about. It's fine.Everything is fine. Candice's mom was eventually
able to convince her to write thenames of the boys that attacked her down
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on a piece of paper, butshe still didn't call the cops because Candice
was very adamant that she would nottalk to the cops period at all.
Wasn't gonna happen, okay. Soshe was threatened clearly and very scared of
consequences because, like you said,she didn't know. She was kind of
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naive. She you know, okay, Okay, I'm sorry. No,
you're good, you're good. Well. Her mom finally told her, Candice,
look, if you don't tell onthese boys, they're going to do
it to someone else or maybe evento you again. They might even kill
someone. The next time. Candicestill refused to talk to the cops.
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A few weeks after this, onApril twenty eighth, twenty ten, Candice's
mom woke up and realized that Candacewasn't home. She thought that was really
weird, so she tries to callCandice. She doesn't answer the phone.
She's getting a little worried as shekeeps trying to call her and text her
and get a hold of her andshe can't. So after about six hours
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of not being able to get aholdto Candae, her mom calls the cops
and reports her missing. Good forher mom. Over the next day or
so, her mom did receive acouple of text messages from Candas's phone.
One said, you know, basicallythat she had run away and she was
in Tennessee. And the other onesaid, you know, mom, it's
fine, I'm okay, everything's fine, I'm okay. Candae's mom was That's
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what Candice's mom said too. Shewas like, this is not my daughter.
My daughter is not the one sendingthese texts. They're coming from her
phone, but my daughter is notthe one sending these texts. It's not
the way she talks, it's notthe way she types. This is not
my daughter, right, but youknow, it is what it is.
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So the cops were kind of looking, but they're kind of writing it off
as Candice ran away, especially withthis text message that her mother had received
saying that she had run away.It was about seven months later. In
fact, it was almost seven monthsto the day after she went missing.
She went missing on April twenty eighth, and then on November twenty fourth of
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twenty ten, they finally got someof their questions answered. Okay, some
some people that had been out lookingfor I don't know, scrap metal or
something like that. I imagine iswhat they were looking for, because everything
I read called them scavengers. Okay, all right. They had been out
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looking for a curb cell though,so it could be you know. But
they they called the cops because theyfound a body under a mattress and a
dumpster in an apartment complex. Ohmy goodness. And the cops were like,
well, we're kind of concerned thatthis might be Candice. You know,
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the extent of decomposition is about theright time for when she went missing.
This this wooded trail that this is. The apartment complex was at the
end of this trail that snaked throughthe woods or whatever kind of led to
Candice's general neighborhood, okay, Andthey so the cops took some of the
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clothing with them to Candice's mom becausethey were going to Candae's mom to get
a DNA sample so they could see, you know, if this was Candice,
right, But they took a coupleof these pieces of clothing with them
as well, and they said,you know, do you recognize this clothing?
And her mother said absolutely, thosebelonged to my daughter. And they
said you're sure, and she goes, oh, absolutely, one without a
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doubt because I bought those for her. Those belonged to my daughter. So
they go ahead and they do theDNA testing. Anyway, it does come
back that this body is Candice's.Ah. Her remains were sent off for
an autopsy, and it would laterdetermine that she had been stabbed and strangled,
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and her manner of death was ruleda homicide. Oh my goodness,
that's pretty much all they had thoughfor a year and a half. Oh
no, they had a few suspects, but nothing really to go on.
They talked to one guy, aJermaine Robinson, but he had a solid
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alibi the night or the day shedisappeared. So you know, he's ruled
out. Okay. Candice's mom keptthinking that it was probably tied to her
attack back in January, but shecouldn't find the name, or she couldn't
find the piece of paper that herdaughter had written these names down on,
and she couldn't remember both of thenames. She could only remember one of
the names. I'm of the assumptionthat one of the names was Jermaine Robinson
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because they looked at him and thenexcluded him. Okay, he didn't go
to school or anything with Candice.That doesn't mean anything really, but well,
from everything that I read, hedidn't really have any social ties to
her circle or anything either, Okay, So I think that's why they looked
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at him, and then he hadthis alibi, so they ruled him out.
I think that might be the nameher mom remembered, but don't quote
me on that, Okay. Anyway, so they really had nothing to go
on. And then in October oftwenty eleven, Canvas's mom was getting ready
to move, so she's packing upher house and she finally says, okay,
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it's time, and she goes intoher daughter's room, which she had
not touched since her daughter disappeared almosttwo years before, and said, okay,
it's it's time to pack up thisroom. And so she starts packing
up her daughter's things and she findsher daughter's diary. M hm. So
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she sits down and she starts flippingthrough this diary, you know, probably
hearing her daughter's voice that she's readingit and reading about the things fallen.
And I'm so sure o an oldmoment for her, absolutely yes. And
as she's kind of you know,flipping through the pages randomly reading some entries
here, some entries there, shecomes across an entry for January fifth of
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twenty ten. Mm hmm. Yeah, So she read it. She read
it, and what she read was, or what Candice had written, was
that she had snuck out of thehouse to meet up with a couple of
friends. She said, well,not really friends, just just a couple
of guys that I've talked to,you know, Okay, So a snuck
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out of the house to go talkto them. They talked me in to
go in into this abandoned house.And once we got inside, Marshe Hickman
told Jermaine Robinson to hit me witha rake and choke me while he stood
and blocked the doorway so that Icouldn't escape. They were I was being
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held down on this match. Mypants were coming unzipped. I was fighting
back though, like I was givingit my all. Her phone kept ringing.
It was in her pocket, andit kept ringing, and she kept
thinking to herself, if I canjust answer this phone, whoever it is,
I can just yell out where Iam, these guys will let me
go. She finally gets the phoneout of her pocket, realizes it's her
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mom that's calling, and she yeah, and she you know, tells her
mom where she is and everything.And she said in her diary that's she
said. That's when her mom droveup in the driveway, freaked the guys
out. They took off one direction, and she escaped and went and got
in the car with her mom.Nice. Right after she got in the
car it, Hickman reportedly sent acouple of texts to Candice saying, please
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don't tell Robinson had a gun.He said he would kill my grandma if
I didn't do this with him.I'll give you one hundred dollars if you
don't tell anyone what happened. Justplease don't tell nobody. M really no,
I'm not believing in that already.Well, for the most part,
she had well, she wrote inher diary that Hickman told the other guy
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to hit her. So if it'sthe other guy that's the mastermind, wouldn't
he be telling this guy. No, I'm not believing it, but go
ahead, I'm sorry. Well,for the most part, Candice didn't tell
anybody she well, not anybody officialanyway, she did tell her mom and
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that one friend at school, andthat one friend at school it was Robinson
that he had confronted and said leaveCandice alone, like back off right,
And Robinson went and told Hickman,and Hickman was like, don't worry about
it. She ain't on tattle.It's fine, don't worry about it.
It's fine. Well, after hermother read this diary entry, she did
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what any sane, normal person woulddo and took it directly to the police.
There you go exactly what I wouldhave done as well, exactly,
And the cops are thinking, youknow what, this may just be the
break we need, like we we'vealready looked at this Jermaine Robinson kid.
He's been ruled out. You know, he had an alibi. I don't
know what his alibi was, buthe had evidently a rock solid alibi for
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the day that she disappeared. Okay, I figured the only rock solid alibi
you actually really can have is ifyou're in jail or the hospital. We'll
see. That's what I would thinktoo. But I don't know. Maybe
he was out of town with hisparents or something, you know. I
mean, it's possible, yes,because I think he was like sixteen at
the time of the attack or atthe time that she disappeared. Okay,
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something like that. There, there'ssixteen, seventeen, fifteen exactly. Well,
so she takes to the cops,and cops were thinking, this is
exactly what we need. We've lookedinto Jermaine Robinson, we've cleared him,
but what about this Marche Hickman.So they go and they do their fancy
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cop Google and they google Marshe Hickman. Okay, turns out he was actually
currently sitting in their county jail onsome burglary charges. Oh. Really upstanding
guy here, Okay, I know, I know. So they go and
they talk to him. They alsotalked to Jermaine Robinson. Again, I'm
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not sure what order they talked tothese boys in if it was Robinson and
then Hickman or Hickman then Robinson,or Hickman then Robinson, then Hickman because
they talked to Hickman twice on twodifferent occasions. Okay, so I'm not
real sure. So I'm just goingto group their cop conversations together and we're
going to talk about what Hickman hadto say first. So they go and
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they talked to Hickman and it wasn'tlong into their conversation that he did admit
to the January twenty ten attack onCandice. And he pretty much said what
her diary had said. Cops itout that, you know, her body
had been found next to this,you know, behind this dumpster, next
to this apartment complex that he usedto live in, in fact, that
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he lived in at the time thatshe went missing. That's convenient, I
know. And Hickman told them we'llsee what had happened. Was was the
day that she went missing. Iwas out riding my bike and I saw
her in the woods and I waslike, you know, hey, don't
say anything you know about the attack, don't tattle, don't get us in
trouble. And you know, Iwas kind of holding onto her arm so
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she'd stop and listen to me andstay and listen to me. And then
I kept riding my bike and therewas this mattress in the trail, and
so I drug the mattress out ofthe way. So you know, if
you find my DNA on her orthe mattress, that's why. Yeh okay,
sure, the cops said, yeah, yeah, that's pretty much what
the cops said to They're like,we don't really believe you. But okay,
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first of all, what kids it'sand I'm doing this in general,
kids all together, even my children, yes you included, I'm a genius.
I don't know what you're talking about. If an adult ask you,
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like your mother ask you something andwants an answer to they pretty much already
know the answer or they wouldn't beasking. So the great thing is is
if you convince your kids that whenthey're young enough. And it's really easy
to convince young kids of that becausewith little kids, you know the answer
before you even think of the questions. So if you can convince them of
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that by when they're little, bythe time they're teenagers, even if you
don't know the answer to the question, They're like, I'm I'm gonna tell
her because she she knows, shealready knows if she's asking, she already
knows. I'm just gonna cop toit. Yes, yes, yes.
If you're my children and you're listeningto this, that's not how I raised
you, guys. I knew thatall the questions, not at all.
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I already knew all the answers.Since fine, well, the cops told
Hickman they weren't really buying this story, and Hickman said, okay, fine.
I saw her walk in. Shewas walking down the trail. She'd
been running her mouth and telling peopleabout this attack that Robinson and I had
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done to her back in January,and I was telling her, you know,
you can't you can't be telling peoplethat because we'll get in trouble,
and we can't get in trouble,like that's against the rules now, because
I make the rules. And Isaid, so, yeah, well,
maybe you shouldn't have done it inthe first place. If he was afraid
of getting in trouble, it's kindof what I'm thinking. But he said
that she was trying to get awayfrom him, so he put her in
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like a chokehold. Typehold. Heput his arm around her neck, you
know, to kind of hold herthere, and after a minute or two
she just kind of went limp.So he checked for a pulse, and
he didn't find to pulse. Sohe dragged her body over to where this
mattress was and covered her up withthis mattress and went on about his day.
Okay, he said. He wentby the next day to check and
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see if her body had been foundor anything, and it hadn't, but
her feet were poking out from underneaththis mattress. So he pushed her feet
back under the mattress and went onabout life again. Hmm. He said
that over the next several months hewould keep going back to see, you
know, if she had been ifher remains had been discovered or anything yet.
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And even after he moved away fromthis apartment complex, he would still
periodically go back and see. Andhe said he kept doing this until right
after Thanksgiving when he went back andCandice was gone, and so was the
mattress, and he was thinking,oh, okay, and then nobody came
knocking on his door. So hewas thinking, I got away with it.
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It's fine. The cops said,you know, Okay, well that's
fine, but what about the factthat not only was she strangled, but
she was stabbed too, Like wehave evidence that she was stabbed. Hickman
swore up and down he did notremember stabbing her at all, at all,
at all. He did not stabher. He was pretty sure he
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didn't stab her. He kind ofblacked out do it. But I did
happen to have a knife on me, well sort of, he said.
I kind of blacked out, youknow, during this second attack on her.
And I do remember right after shedisappeared that I did throw away my
pocket knife. So there's that.Yeah, I mean I just threw it
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away. I've been carrying it foryears, and all of a sudden,
I just feel like throwing it away. I don't know why, but exactly,
yes, mister Hickman. Sure.So they go and they talked to
Robinson again, and Robinson admitted tothe attack on Candice in back in January
of twenty and ten, but hedenied knowing that she was dead. He
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knew she was missing, but hedidn't know she was dead. He had
no idea about any of that.I guess him and mister Hickman were not
such good friends after all, ifwell, he told the cops that,
you know, her friend had Candas'sfriend had come up to him, and
so he went to Hickman and lethim know that Candace had at least talked
to one person, so maybe shewas talking to more people. And Hickman
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told him, you know, hey, there's not gonna be any issues.
Don't worry about it, bro,I got you. He also told the
cops that Hickman had approached him backin December of twenty ten, so a
month after her body had been found, and asked him, you know,
now, I'm also kind of wonderingif the year was maybe a typo because
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it was weird because her body hadbeen found, or not the year,
if the month was a typo becauseher body had been found in November,
and he's saying what I read saidthat he said Hickman came up to him
and Burton said, hey, doyou want to kill Candice so that she
can't talk? Well? I meanmaybe, but maybe he was saying that
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to kind of throw Robinson off thatmaybe you know, so I maybe it
could have been December, Yeah,it could have been December twenty ten that
Hickman said, Hey, do youwant to kill Candice with me? It
could have been a different done exactly. No one he had already done it,
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knowing that her body had already beendiscovered. Yeah, you know,
maybe, but maybe it was adifferent month. I'm not real sure.
I just wanted to make sure Iput that out there though, or or
he could have been doing it tosee if Robinson knew anything, if anybody
had talked to him, he wasfishing for some information, maybe that he
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maybe because Robinson didn't know. Maybeand Robinson told the hops you know that,
Hey, he asked me if Iwanted to kill Candice, and he
threatened to stab me, and hetold me he was going to stab and
beat and choke Candice. Hh.Yeah. Robinson would eventually plead guilty to
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aggravated assault in the attack on Candiceback in January of twenty ten. He
agreed to testify against Hickman, andin turn he was sentenced to ten years.
Okay, he did end up testifyingagainst Hickman when he went to trial,
like he agreed to, because Hickmandid lead not guilty and went to
trial. Well, of course,of course he had been charged with And
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this is quite the list oh,okay. He had been charged with attempted
rape, false imprisonment, two countsof aggravated assault and battery, malice,
murder, two counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, and
two counts of concealing the death ofanother. Okay, no, oh,
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okay, okay. His trial startedon April eighth of twenty thirteen. The
prosecution presented their case and then thedefense presented theirs. The defense's case was
Hickman wasn't the murderer. Robinson was, well, of course, he knew
more details about the murder than Hickmandid. He knew that she had been
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stabbed. Hickman didn't really. Also, his confession to the cops, that
was a total crop because you see, what had happened was was the cops
hand fed him details and hadn't handfed him details, and just kept interrogating
him over and over and over andover and over again until he finally told
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them what they wanted to hear.And then that's the little snippet of tape
that they showed you. They coursethis conversation, No, they coerced this
confession out of Hickman. Right rightnow, we do know probably shit like
that does tap, but it does. But his entire, his entire interrogation,
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both of them were videotaped from themoment. I mean, you see
him walking in the door. There'sno breaks in the tape or the time,
and he leaves the door and thencomes back in and leaves the door,
you know, and the jury sawall of that, right, Yeah,
I'm not buying Yeah. Well,on April twelfth, the case went
to the jury and they deliberated fora little bit and they came back and
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said, yeah, we're with Junehere. We're not buying it. He's
guilty of all of these charges exceptone. They didn't think he was guilty
of felony murder. They felt thatit was more of an involuntary manslaughter because
if if he had put her inthis chokehold, like he said, he
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didn't intend to kill her. Soit's not felony murder, it's it's involuntary
manslaughter. Okay, I'll give thejury that. Well, well, either
way, late April, he wassentenced, almost three years to the day
that Candice was killed. He wassentenced to basically what it boiled down to
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was life without parole plus twenty years. Wow, he's gonna be there a
good minute. Yeah. He wasgiven life without parole for malice murder,
ten years to be served consecutively forconcealing the death of another, thirty years
for the attempted rape, twenty yearsfor aggravated assault that occurred on January fifth,
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and ten years for false imprisonment,all to be served concurrently with the
sentences imposed for malice, murder andconcealing the death of another. The remaining
counts that he was charged with theywere vacated and merged by law. So
basically, like I said, lifewithout parole, lost an extra twenty years
for good measure. And that's mycase. Wow, crazy, absolutely crazy.
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Yeah. I don't think his parentsconvinced him that. If I ask
you a question, I know theanswer. And yeah, I mean just
to what he was saying, whathe was spill spilling, I wasn't believing.
Yeah, just throw it away.I don't know why. Maybe I
just because people just always throw awaypocket knives. Tell that to my husband,
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who has like eight hundred Yeah.Yeah, mine's got the same one
he's had for years, and he's, oh, I'm gonna have to sharpen
it. Oh, I gotta geta new bolt or new screw to put
you know, puts broke, andit's like, we can buy you another
one. Nope, nope, nope. Okay, so say my husband has
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those old ones that he keeps sharpeningand using, but he also has all
these new ones that he finds thathe's like, ooh this, I like
this one, and he buys thatone too. We don't ever throw away
pocket knives around here, you guys. Nope, nope, we don't either.
So I'm just saying, yeah,yeah, so when it comes to
things like that, I'm not gonnabelieve you, not at all. Not
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at all. Yeah, me neither. So, but yeah, that's my
case. That's what I got foryou. This week, Candice Parchment solved
her own murder in the end.Good for her, Good for her,
that's awesome. And you know,glad her mom found the diary. Glad
her mom took it to the police. Good for her. That's that's great,
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that's great. I'm sure it wasa very very emotional day for her
mom. Oh I am so sure. I can't even imagine. Oh me
neither. I don't want to imagine. I just I can't. I just
can't. Well, that's crazy.Thank you for Sharon. That was wow.
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Something else for sure I thought sotoo. Wow. Wow. Yeah,
that's that's what we got this week. We'll be back again next week
with another new episode. Until then, talk to you later. By okay bye
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We're gonna tell you some stories you'veheard, some of you haven't,
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welcome back, guys, welcome back. How are you doing. We hope
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and our temperatures dropped. I don'tknow about your but we did not
even reach one hundred today. Wedid, we did, but and we
do not have a hundred on thenext ten day forecast. Yeah, on
the next ten day forecast, everythingis tomorrow. Today was our hottest day
at like ninety eight. Tomorrow islow nineties and then after that, no
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nineties. Wow, Well, you'redoing better than we are, because you
know, we've got a few ninetiesstrung out here and there. I think
it did reach right close to onehundred today, but we've got nineties the
next couple of days, and thenin the eighties, and then next week
starting ninety again. But yeah,no triple digits, and so I'm happy
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about that. Dude, I'm goingto be in the seventies. Good for
you. So we have, butthen they've changed it, like every time
I look at the forecast, theychange it, and so now it's in
the eighties. I have nothing inthe seventies. Ours is in the seventies.
So I'm feeling pretty froggy. I'mfeeling a lot better. Maybe my
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dog will quit being a vampire dog. Yes, yes, that would be
really awesome. So, well,what's in your mug this week? Well,
in my mug, I actually didnot go to the boxopods. I
actually just got a pod that Ihad. It's the Cafe Bustillo. It's
(02:23):
the espresso style, so it's reallykind of strong. I like it though
I'm digging a good strong coffee occasionally, so I felt I had to put
a little extra French vanilla creamer init because it's espresso style, so of
course it's going to be strong,but but it's good. I like it.
(02:44):
I really really like it. What'sin your mug today. Not what
you think. Oh, we havean adult beverage in your mug today.
I got adventurous with my coffee though, No, you did not, Yes
I did. I ordered another flavorfrom Bones Coffee Company. It is the
(03:04):
Haunted There. It's a Disney lineof coffee. It's Haunted Mansion and it's
called Brownie from Beyond. Oh mygoodness, I'm digging it already. And
it's supposed to be like a caramelbrownie flavor. I don't like it.
Oh, it's got cinnamon flavor toit. Oh, I like cinnamon.
(03:28):
I like cinnamon. I don't likecinnamon in my coffee. I don't mind
it if it's just a slight hintit just so it warms you up a
little little too cinnamony, cinnamon,cinnamon. Yeah, yeah, too much
of that in it? Gotcha?Too much cinnamon for me. Oh,
(03:49):
I can tell you. I don'tknow when it will be. Apparently my
husband knows someone going on vacation orgoing on a trip to Orto Rico.
I think, oh, it's notus, not us. We're gonna have
a lot to talk about soon.But anyway, going to Puerto Rico and
(04:13):
ask if we wanted anything brought backspecific and of course I popped up coffee
so I might get some kind ofcoffee from Puerto Rico. When I don't
even know who it was he wastalking to. I'm just screaming coffee.
So and I don't know when he'sgoing or this person's going at all,
(04:33):
so you know, maybe I'll havesomething new like that besides the the boxopoxopods,
because I'm afraid most everything I'm gonnahave left in there is going to
be some peppermint, I mean,some pumpkins something and yeah, so but
(04:58):
I don't know. We'll see,we'll see. Not right, Well,
I have a case for us today. Okay I didn't. I've got the
espresso style coffee, but I don'thave anything else in it. But well,
you know what, so you havethe espresso coffee, so you've got
all this energy and you're gonna haveto like funnel it to the anger that
you're going to get for this case. Oh okay, all right, I'm
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ready then let's okay, let's doit. We are going to go to
Forest Park, Georgia m Forest Parkis located in Clayton County and it's about
nine miles or so south of Atlanta. It was incorporated in nineteen oh eight,
and it was named for the parklike setting of the original town site.
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Hm. The population in two thousandand ten it was about eighteen thousand,
five hundred. Oh you ever takea few Okay, We're gonna talk
about a young lady named Candice Parchmentin twenty ten. She was fifteen year
old girl. She had moved intwo thousand and eight from Jamaica to America
with her mother. She was supersuper close with her mom. Her sister
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stayed her older sister stayed back inJamaica. She was a freshman at Forest
Park High School. She was outgoing. She was an aspiring writer. She
had a bright smile. She wasa math tutor at the middle school.
I'm a girl, I do girlmath. Math doesn't make a whole lot
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of sense to me, So superkudos to her for being a math tutor.
Yeah, good, good job.She was in the JROTC. She
had been in the marching band ather last high school before she transferred to
Forest Park High School. I'm thinkingmaybe she wasn't in the marching band at
Forest Park High School because I knowsometimes when you transfer in after the first
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of the school year. You know, you've already missed out on band camp
and you know, even though youwere in it at last school, it's
different routines, act like, becausein band camp that's when you start learning
that year's routines and songs and stufflike that. Right, she made friends
really, really easily, and hermom did say she was a little bit
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naive though, m okay, well, I mean I get it. Things
totally different from Jamaica to the UnitedStates in Georgia, and you know,
so I get it. I getwhere she can be naive. So it
was on January fifth, twenty ten, Candace's mom came home kind of late
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from work and she got a littleworried when she realized that Candace wasn't home.
No, she started calling her phone, but she wasn't getting any answer.
So she and her fiance got intoCandace's mom's car and started driving around
looking for still calling her, youknow, back to back to back,
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trying to get a hold of herand find out where she was, right,
because this was totally not like Candiceat all. And they're driving around
the neighborhood and there's this section thathad you know, some abandoned houses or
whatever, and they're looking, youknow, as they're driving by, they're
looking in these abandoned houses because imean, let's face it, teenagers,
no matter how good they are,teenagers or teenagers, and they do dumb
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teenager things sometimes. Absolutely yes.So she's like, you know what,
I'm not going to ignore the factthat she could be in one of these
abandoned houses being a dumb teenager,even though that's out of character for her,
She's still a teenager, right well. Candice finally answered her phone on
one of these phone calls that hermom made, and her mom said it
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sounded like someone was trying to wrestlethe phone away from her, and Candace
is like, you know, hey, mom, this is where I'm at.
And it happened to be one ofthe abandoned houses where Candae's mom was
closed to. So she pulls intothe driveway and she sees some people moving
around inside and Candice comes running outand she jumps in the car and she's
all freaked out. Her mom's like, dude, what what happened? And
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Candice told her mom, you knowthat a couple of people had attacked her
and tried to rape her. Ohno, And her mom said, excuse
me, who were these guys?And Candace refused to tell her mom who
they were. And Candace's mom said, okay, well, we need to
go to the cops. We needto tell the cops. You need to
talk to the cops. And Candacewas like, I'm not talking to nobody,
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Like I'm not, I'm no pulpsre sealed. Nope, she it's
over with. It's over, youknow. Don't worry about it, mom,
It's fine. Nope, Nope,you need you need to do something.
Candae, Well, her mom kepttalking over and over to her,
you know, trying to get herto tell her who these guys were that
had attacked her, and Candace refusedto name them. She just she would
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not tell her mom the names.So that tells me that Candice knew who
these people were. We'll get tothat, okay. Well, even though
Candice wouldn't tell her mom or thecops who had tried to rape her,
she did tell a friend at school. Okay, this friend, and she
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told the friend who these guys were. This friend went up to one of
the people that Candae named and said, bro, you stay away from Candice.
Or I'm gonna kick your ass.Don't be a douche, okay,
like Mance, chill, bro don'tWell. This guy went to the other
guy that he had attacked, thathe had attacked Candice with, and said,
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look, Candice is talking. She'stold at least one person. And
the other guy said, you knowwhat, don't worry about it, nothing
to worry about. It's fine.Everything is fine. Candice's mom was eventually
able to convince her to write thenames of the boys that attacked her down
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on a piece of paper, butshe still didn't call the cops because Candice
was very adamant that she would nottalk to the cops period at all.
Wasn't gonna happen, okay. Soshe was threatened clearly and very scared of
consequences because, like you said,she didn't know. She was kind of
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naive. She you know, okay, Okay, I'm sorry. No,
you're good, you're good. Well. Her mom finally told her, Candice,
look, if you don't tell onthese boys, they're going to do
it to someone else or maybe evento you again. They might even kill
someone. The next time. Candicestill refused to talk to the cops.
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A few weeks after this, onApril twenty eighth, twenty ten, Candice's
mom woke up and realized that Candacewasn't home. She thought that was really
weird, so she tries to callCandice. She doesn't answer the phone.
She's getting a little worried as shekeeps trying to call her and text her
and get a hold of her andshe can't. So after about six hours
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of not being able to get aholdto Candae, her mom calls the cops
and reports her missing. Good forher mom. Over the next day or
so, her mom did receive acouple of text messages from Candas's phone.
One said, you know, basicallythat she had run away and she was
in Tennessee. And the other onesaid, you know, mom, it's
fine, I'm okay, everything's fine, I'm okay. Candae's mom was That's
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what Candice's mom said too. Shewas like, this is not my daughter.
My daughter is not the one sendingthese texts. They're coming from her
phone, but my daughter is notthe one sending these texts. It's not
the way she talks, it's notthe way she types. This is not
my daughter, right, but youknow, it is what it is.
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So the cops were kind of looking, but they're kind of writing it off
as Candice ran away, especially withthis text message that her mother had received
saying that she had run away.It was about seven months later. In
fact, it was almost seven monthsto the day after she went missing.
She went missing on April twenty eighth, and then on November twenty fourth of
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twenty ten, they finally got someof their questions answered. Okay, some
some people that had been out lookingfor I don't know, scrap metal or
something like that. I imagine iswhat they were looking for, because everything
I read called them scavengers. Okay, all right. They had been out
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looking for a curb cell though,so it could be you know. But
they they called the cops because theyfound a body under a mattress and a
dumpster in an apartment complex. Ohmy goodness. And the cops were like,
well, we're kind of concerned thatthis might be Candice. You know,
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the extent of decomposition is about theright time for when she went missing.
This this wooded trail that this is. The apartment complex was at the
end of this trail that snaked throughthe woods or whatever kind of led to
Candice's general neighborhood, okay, Andthey so the cops took some of the
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clothing with them to Candice's mom becausethey were going to Candae's mom to get
a DNA sample so they could see, you know, if this was Candice,
right, But they took a coupleof these pieces of clothing with them
as well, and they said,you know, do you recognize this clothing?
And her mother said absolutely, thosebelonged to my daughter. And they
said you're sure, and she goes, oh, absolutely, one without a
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doubt because I bought those for her. Those belonged to my daughter. So
they go ahead and they do theDNA testing. Anyway, it does come
back that this body is Candice's.Ah. Her remains were sent off for
an autopsy, and it would laterdetermine that she had been stabbed and strangled,
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and her manner of death was ruleda homicide. Oh my goodness,
that's pretty much all they had thoughfor a year and a half. Oh
no, they had a few suspects, but nothing really to go on.
They talked to one guy, aJermaine Robinson, but he had a solid
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alibi the night or the day shedisappeared. So you know, he's ruled
out. Okay. Candice's mom keptthinking that it was probably tied to her
attack back in January, but shecouldn't find the name, or she couldn't
find the piece of paper that herdaughter had written these names down on,
and she couldn't remember both of thenames. She could only remember one of
the names. I'm of the assumptionthat one of the names was Jermaine Robinson
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because they looked at him and thenexcluded him. Okay, he didn't go
to school or anything with Candice.That doesn't mean anything really, but well,
from everything that I read, hedidn't really have any social ties to
her circle or anything either, Okay, So I think that's why they looked
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at him, and then he hadthis alibi, so they ruled him out.
I think that might be the nameher mom remembered, but don't quote
me on that, Okay. Anyway, so they really had nothing to go
on. And then in October oftwenty eleven, Canvas's mom was getting ready
to move, so she's packing upher house and she finally says, okay,
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it's time, and she goes intoher daughter's room, which she had
not touched since her daughter disappeared almosttwo years before, and said, okay,
it's it's time to pack up thisroom. And so she starts packing
up her daughter's things and she findsher daughter's diary. M hm. So
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she sits down and she starts flippingthrough this diary, you know, probably
hearing her daughter's voice that she's readingit and reading about the things fallen.
And I'm so sure o an oldmoment for her, absolutely yes. And
as she's kind of you know,flipping through the pages randomly reading some entries
here, some entries there, shecomes across an entry for January fifth of
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twenty ten. Mm hmm. Yeah, So she read it. She read
it, and what she read was, or what Candice had written, was
that she had snuck out of thehouse to meet up with a couple of
friends. She said, well,not really friends, just just a couple
of guys that I've talked to,you know, Okay, So a snuck
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out of the house to go talkto them. They talked me in to
go in into this abandoned house.And once we got inside, Marshe Hickman
told Jermaine Robinson to hit me witha rake and choke me while he stood
and blocked the doorway so that Icouldn't escape. They were I was being
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held down on this match. Mypants were coming unzipped. I was fighting
back though, like I was givingit my all. Her phone kept ringing.
It was in her pocket, andit kept ringing, and she kept
thinking to herself, if I canjust answer this phone, whoever it is,
I can just yell out where Iam, these guys will let me
go. She finally gets the phoneout of her pocket, realizes it's her
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mom that's calling, and she yeah, and she you know, tells her
mom where she is and everything.And she said in her diary that's she
said. That's when her mom droveup in the driveway, freaked the guys
out. They took off one direction, and she escaped and went and got
in the car with her mom.Nice. Right after she got in the
car it, Hickman reportedly sent acouple of texts to Candice saying, please
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don't tell Robinson had a gun.He said he would kill my grandma if
I didn't do this with him.I'll give you one hundred dollars if you
don't tell anyone what happened. Justplease don't tell nobody. M really no,
I'm not believing in that already.Well, for the most part,
she had well, she wrote inher diary that Hickman told the other guy
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to hit her. So if it'sthe other guy that's the mastermind, wouldn't
he be telling this guy. No, I'm not believing it, but go
ahead, I'm sorry. Well,for the most part, Candice didn't tell
anybody she well, not anybody officialanyway, she did tell her mom and
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that one friend at school, andthat one friend at school it was Robinson
that he had confronted and said leaveCandice alone, like back off right,
And Robinson went and told Hickman,and Hickman was like, don't worry about
it. She ain't on tattle.It's fine, don't worry about it.
It's fine. Well, after hermother read this diary entry, she did
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what any sane, normal person woulddo and took it directly to the police.
There you go exactly what I wouldhave done as well, exactly,
And the cops are thinking, youknow what, this may just be the
break we need, like we we'vealready looked at this Jermaine Robinson kid.
He's been ruled out. You know, he had an alibi. I don't
know what his alibi was, buthe had evidently a rock solid alibi for
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the day that she disappeared. Okay, I figured the only rock solid alibi
you actually really can have is ifyou're in jail or the hospital. We'll
see. That's what I would thinktoo. But I don't know. Maybe
he was out of town with hisparents or something, you know. I
mean, it's possible, yes,because I think he was like sixteen at
the time of the attack or atthe time that she disappeared. Okay,
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something like that. There, there'ssixteen, seventeen, fifteen exactly. Well,
so she takes to the cops,and cops were thinking, this is
exactly what we need. We've lookedinto Jermaine Robinson, we've cleared him,
but what about this Marche Hickman.So they go and they do their fancy
(21:04):
cop Google and they google Marshe Hickman. Okay, turns out he was actually
currently sitting in their county jail onsome burglary charges. Oh. Really upstanding
guy here, Okay, I know, I know. So they go and
they talk to him. They alsotalked to Jermaine Robinson. Again, I'm
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not sure what order they talked tothese boys in if it was Robinson and
then Hickman or Hickman then Robinson,or Hickman then Robinson, then Hickman because
they talked to Hickman twice on twodifferent occasions. Okay, so I'm not
real sure. So I'm just goingto group their cop conversations together and we're
going to talk about what Hickman hadto say first. So they go and
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they talked to Hickman and it wasn'tlong into their conversation that he did admit
to the January twenty ten attack onCandice. And he pretty much said what
her diary had said. Cops itout that, you know, her body
had been found next to this,you know, behind this dumpster, next
to this apartment complex that he usedto live in, in fact, that
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he lived in at the time thatshe went missing. That's convenient, I
know. And Hickman told them we'llsee what had happened. Was was the
day that she went missing. Iwas out riding my bike and I saw
her in the woods and I waslike, you know, hey, don't
say anything you know about the attack, don't tattle, don't get us in
trouble. And you know, Iwas kind of holding onto her arm so
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she'd stop and listen to me andstay and listen to me. And then
I kept riding my bike and therewas this mattress in the trail, and
so I drug the mattress out ofthe way. So you know, if
you find my DNA on her orthe mattress, that's why. Yeh okay,
sure, the cops said, yeah, yeah, that's pretty much what
the cops said to They're like,we don't really believe you. But okay,
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first of all, what kids it'sand I'm doing this in general,
kids all together, even my children, yes you included, I'm a genius.
I don't know what you're talking about. If an adult ask you,
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like your mother ask you something andwants an answer to they pretty much already
know the answer or they wouldn't beasking. So the great thing is is
if you convince your kids that whenthey're young enough. And it's really easy
to convince young kids of that becausewith little kids, you know the answer
before you even think of the questions. So if you can convince them of
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that by when they're little, bythe time they're teenagers, even if you
don't know the answer to the question, They're like, I'm I'm gonna tell
her because she she knows, shealready knows if she's asking, she already
knows. I'm just gonna cop toit. Yes, yes, yes.
If you're my children and you're listeningto this, that's not how I raised
you, guys. I knew thatall the questions, not at all.
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I already knew all the answers.Since fine, well, the cops told
Hickman they weren't really buying this story, and Hickman said, okay, fine.
I saw her walk in. Shewas walking down the trail. She'd
been running her mouth and telling peopleabout this attack that Robinson and I had
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done to her back in January,and I was telling her, you know,
you can't you can't be telling peoplethat because we'll get in trouble,
and we can't get in trouble,like that's against the rules now, because
I make the rules. And Isaid, so, yeah, well,
maybe you shouldn't have done it inthe first place. If he was afraid
of getting in trouble, it's kindof what I'm thinking. But he said
that she was trying to get awayfrom him, so he put her in
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like a chokehold. Typehold. Heput his arm around her neck, you
know, to kind of hold herthere, and after a minute or two
she just kind of went limp.So he checked for a pulse, and
he didn't find to pulse. Sohe dragged her body over to where this
mattress was and covered her up withthis mattress and went on about his day.
Okay, he said. He wentby the next day to check and
(25:11):
see if her body had been foundor anything, and it hadn't, but
her feet were poking out from underneaththis mattress. So he pushed her feet
back under the mattress and went onabout life again. Hmm. He said
that over the next several months hewould keep going back to see, you
know, if she had been ifher remains had been discovered or anything yet.
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And even after he moved away fromthis apartment complex, he would still
periodically go back and see. Andhe said he kept doing this until right
after Thanksgiving when he went back andCandice was gone, and so was the
mattress, and he was thinking,oh, okay, and then nobody came
knocking on his door. So hewas thinking, I got away with it.
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It's fine. The cops said,you know, Okay, well that's
fine, but what about the factthat not only was she strangled, but
she was stabbed too, Like wehave evidence that she was stabbed. Hickman
swore up and down he did notremember stabbing her at all, at all,
at all. He did not stabher. He was pretty sure he
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didn't stab her. He kind ofblacked out do it. But I did
happen to have a knife on me, well sort of, he said.
I kind of blacked out, youknow, during this second attack on her.
And I do remember right after shedisappeared that I did throw away my
pocket knife. So there's that.Yeah, I mean I just threw it
(26:37):
away. I've been carrying it foryears, and all of a sudden,
I just feel like throwing it away. I don't know why, but exactly,
yes, mister Hickman. Sure.So they go and they talked to
Robinson again, and Robinson admitted tothe attack on Candice in back in January
of twenty and ten, but hedenied knowing that she was dead. He
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knew she was missing, but hedidn't know she was dead. He had
no idea about any of that.I guess him and mister Hickman were not
such good friends after all, ifwell, he told the cops that,
you know, her friend had Candas'sfriend had come up to him, and
so he went to Hickman and lethim know that Candace had at least talked
to one person, so maybe shewas talking to more people. And Hickman
(27:22):
told him, you know, hey, there's not gonna be any issues.
Don't worry about it, bro,I got you. He also told the
cops that Hickman had approached him backin December of twenty ten, so a
month after her body had been found, and asked him, you know,
now, I'm also kind of wonderingif the year was maybe a typo because
(27:45):
it was weird because her body hadbeen found, or not the year,
if the month was a typo becauseher body had been found in November,
and he's saying what I read saidthat he said Hickman came up to him
and Burton said, hey, doyou want to kill Candice so that she
can't talk? Well? I meanmaybe, but maybe he was saying that
(28:08):
to kind of throw Robinson off thatmaybe you know, so I maybe it
could have been December, Yeah,it could have been December twenty ten that
Hickman said, Hey, do youwant to kill Candice with me? It
could have been a different done exactly. No one he had already done it,
(28:30):
knowing that her body had already beendiscovered. Yeah, you know,
maybe, but maybe it was adifferent month. I'm not real sure.
I just wanted to make sure Iput that out there though, or or
he could have been doing it tosee if Robinson knew anything, if anybody
had talked to him, he wasfishing for some information, maybe that he
(28:53):
maybe because Robinson didn't know. Maybeand Robinson told the hops you know that,
Hey, he asked me if Iwanted to kill Candice, and he
threatened to stab me, and hetold me he was going to stab and
beat and choke Candice. Hh.Yeah. Robinson would eventually plead guilty to
(29:15):
aggravated assault in the attack on Candiceback in January of twenty ten. He
agreed to testify against Hickman, andin turn he was sentenced to ten years.
Okay, he did end up testifyingagainst Hickman when he went to trial,
like he agreed to, because Hickmandid lead not guilty and went to
trial. Well, of course,of course he had been charged with And
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this is quite the list oh,okay. He had been charged with attempted
rape, false imprisonment, two countsof aggravated assault and battery, malice,
murder, two counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, and
two counts of concealing the death ofanother. Okay, no, oh,
(30:00):
okay, okay. His trial startedon April eighth of twenty thirteen. The
prosecution presented their case and then thedefense presented theirs. The defense's case was
Hickman wasn't the murderer. Robinson was, well, of course, he knew
more details about the murder than Hickmandid. He knew that she had been
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stabbed. Hickman didn't really. Also, his confession to the cops, that
was a total crop because you see, what had happened was was the cops
hand fed him details and hadn't handfed him details, and just kept interrogating
him over and over and over andover and over again until he finally told
(30:44):
them what they wanted to hear.And then that's the little snippet of tape
that they showed you. They coursethis conversation, No, they coerced this
confession out of Hickman. Right rightnow, we do know probably shit like
that does tap, but it does. But his entire, his entire interrogation,
(31:06):
both of them were videotaped from themoment. I mean, you see
him walking in the door. There'sno breaks in the tape or the time,
and he leaves the door and thencomes back in and leaves the door,
you know, and the jury sawall of that, right, Yeah,
I'm not buying Yeah. Well,on April twelfth, the case went
to the jury and they deliberated fora little bit and they came back and
(31:27):
said, yeah, we're with Junehere. We're not buying it. He's
guilty of all of these charges exceptone. They didn't think he was guilty
of felony murder. They felt thatit was more of an involuntary manslaughter because
if if he had put her inthis chokehold, like he said, he
(31:48):
didn't intend to kill her. Soit's not felony murder, it's it's involuntary
manslaughter. Okay, I'll give thejury that. Well, well, either
way, late April, he wassentenced, almost three years to the day
that Candice was killed. He wassentenced to basically what it boiled down to
(32:10):
was life without parole plus twenty years. Wow, he's gonna be there a
good minute. Yeah. He wasgiven life without parole for malice murder,
ten years to be served consecutively forconcealing the death of another, thirty years
for the attempted rape, twenty yearsfor aggravated assault that occurred on January fifth,
(32:34):
and ten years for false imprisonment,all to be served concurrently with the
sentences imposed for malice, murder andconcealing the death of another. The remaining
counts that he was charged with theywere vacated and merged by law. So
basically, like I said, lifewithout parole, lost an extra twenty years
for good measure. And that's mycase. Wow, crazy, absolutely crazy.
(33:01):
Yeah. I don't think his parentsconvinced him that. If I ask
you a question, I know theanswer. And yeah, I mean just
to what he was saying, whathe was spill spilling, I wasn't believing.
Yeah, just throw it away.I don't know why. Maybe I
just because people just always throw awaypocket knives. Tell that to my husband,
(33:23):
who has like eight hundred Yeah.Yeah, mine's got the same one
he's had for years, and he's, oh, I'm gonna have to sharpen
it. Oh, I gotta geta new bolt or new screw to put
you know, puts broke, andit's like, we can buy you another
one. Nope, nope, nope. Okay, so say my husband has
(33:44):
those old ones that he keeps sharpeningand using, but he also has all
these new ones that he finds thathe's like, ooh this, I like
this one, and he buys thatone too. We don't ever throw away
pocket knives around here, you guys. Nope, nope, we don't either.
So I'm just saying, yeah,yeah, so when it comes to
things like that, I'm not gonnabelieve you, not at all. Not
(34:04):
at all. Yeah, me neither. So, but yeah, that's my
case. That's what I got foryou. This week, Candice Parchment solved
her own murder in the end.Good for her, Good for her,
that's awesome. And you know,glad her mom found the diary. Glad
her mom took it to the police. Good for her. That's that's great,
(34:27):
that's great. I'm sure it wasa very very emotional day for her
mom. Oh I am so sure. I can't even imagine. Oh me
neither. I don't want to imagine. I just I can't. I just
can't. Well, that's crazy.Thank you for Sharon. That was wow.
(34:49):
Something else for sure I thought sotoo. Wow. Wow. Yeah,
that's that's what we got this week. We'll be back again next week
with another new episode. Until then, talk to you later. By okay bye
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