August 23, 2023 • 37 mins
The evening of June 13, 2009 was the last time anyone saw Phyllis Phares alive at her Charelston, West Virginia home. When her daughter couldn't get a hold of the 82 year old widow, she went to check on her and found a gruesome crime scene. The Mallo family, who lived directly across the street, became suspects in the ensuing murder investigation after Thomas Mallo, the 14 year old son, told police about a man he had seen on the porch of Mrs. Phares the night she was killed. It wouldn't be long before nearly every member of the 8 person household would be behind bars for one reason or another.
Sources for this episode:
Wikipedia - Charleston, West Virginia
Find A Grave - Phyllis Jean Jones Phares
MetroNews - Murder Sentence Stays Same For Teenager
Charleston Gazette-Mail - Judge upholds 40-year sentence for teen convicted of murder
MetroNews - Convicted murderer sentenced for violent escape attempt
DreminDemon - The Mallos Are Seriously Effed Up - Murderers And Child Abusers (copies of no longer existing online news articles were copied and linked in this forum thread)
BadLawyerNYC - White Trash Horror Story
WV Mountain News - 14 year old boy and family remian in jail
Evil Kin - The Evil Inside, Season 1 Episode 4Support the show
Sources for this episode:
Wikipedia - Charleston, West Virginia
Find A Grave - Phyllis Jean Jones Phares
MetroNews - Murder Sentence Stays Same For Teenager
Charleston Gazette-Mail - Judge upholds 40-year sentence for teen convicted of murder
MetroNews - Convicted murderer sentenced for violent escape attempt
DreminDemon - The Mallos Are Seriously Effed Up - Murderers And Child Abusers (copies of no longer existing online news articles were copied and linked in this forum thread)
BadLawyerNYC - White Trash Horror Story
WV Mountain News - 14 year old boy and family remian in jail
Evil Kin - The Evil Inside, Season 1 Episode 4Support the show
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We're gonna tell you some stories you'veheard, some of you haven't,
and some you'll wish you hadn't,all with a Texas twang. Well,
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from. But you're if you're hereevery week, We're glad you're back.
Yes, absolutely, So what's inyour mug this week? Well, in
my mug, it's it's not reallya mug, it's a cup. But
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I was out doing some running aroundand it was a little hot because yeah,
yeah, still Texas and it's ahundred plus. So I actually stopped
by Starbucks and I got me ait's called a caramel ribbon crunch frappuccino.
Oh, I know you're not abig fan of carmel, No, I
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am. I love carmel, soit's amazing. It's nice and cool and
I don't know what this crunch ontop is, but it's delicious and I
want a freaking bag of it.Oh my god, this thing is.
It's good. It's good deal,good deal. Yeah, and what's in
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your book? Oil? I okay. So we're recording this several weeks before
it releases because we are preparing togo to Austin. This actually comes out
the day before we leave for Austin. Yes, so I actually am currently
surrounded by wildfires where I'm at.We have one to the north of me.
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We have two to the west ofme. We have last I checked,
one to the south of me,none to the east, thank goodness.
But the one to one of theones to the west of me is
like within four miles of my citylimits. Oh wow, I don't live
far from my city limits. Nowyou don't. That's because your city's kind
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of little anyway, so my cityis pretty small. But anyway, so
I am actually drinking a hot coffee, but I am drinking army of dark
chocolates like normal because I find itcomforting and I'm hoping that if I just
drink my nice and warm, comfortingarmy of dark chocolate coffee. The fires
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will stay away because I'm warm enoughexactly. Yes. And you your calm,
cool, collected drinking something that youenjoy. Yes, So keep that'll
keep the fires away. I gotyou. That's what's in my mug this
week. Nice, very nice.So all right, well this week I
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have a case for us. Okay, I'm ready to dive in now you're
not. Oh god, okay.So four July's exclusive episode that we did
for our Patreon members, it wasa case that had some generational craziness going
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on. It's like four generations.Yes, again, sorry to our Patreon
members because you didn't get that toAugust, but you got it, so
yes, But yeah, it kindof spans generational, several generations. This
one kind of reminds me of thata little bit, but not really.
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Okay, I mean it's it's thepeople are bad people, m but it's
more just like this whole generation insteadof multiple generations. Okay, what is
what I think? Made me go? Oh? These are kind of similar.
But this week we're going to goto Charleston, West Virginia. Okay,
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they're probably having better weather than weare right now, I am so
sure. So, but Charleston isthe most populous city in West Virginia.
It is the capital of West Virginia, and the population in two thousand was
about fifty three thousand, and intwo thousand and ten the population was about
fifty one thousand. Wow, youknow what I mean if you think about
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it, I guess because the citiesand stuff are so much smaller because the
area the state itself is so muchsmaller than Texas. I hear a number
like that, and I'm like,oh, that's just a little bitty place,
but the whole entire state is somuch smaller than our state. So
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you know, so my dog watchesTV when I leave him home alone.
Well, you gotta give him somethingto do. And I've noticed that he
likes to actually watch the shows thathave animals on them. So he was
watching Northwood's Law, which is justmain game wardens. It just follows main
game wardens around everywhere. Well,they also have one for Texas that says
Loan. It's called Lone Star Law. Both of these you can stream on
(05:36):
Discovery Plus. Okay, And soI told him, I was like,
you know what, instead of watchingMaine you're gonna watch Texas because you need
to learn about the things that canget you here where you live. So
I turned the lone Star Law oneon, and in the introduction of it,
it says, you know, largerthan what was it, larger than
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California, Maine, and and ohanother state, but I cannot remember what
state it was right off the topof my head combined, is the state
of Texas. Yes, And Iwas like, yeah, it's it's bigger
than all three of those states puttogether. Whatever that third state is,
I can't remember right off the topof my head. But yeah, Texas
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is huge, y'all. Like it'sa day to drive from one side of
Texas to the other. Absolutely,you can drive, you know, a
good ten twelve hours and still bein the same state. So you can
drive from the southernmost point of Texaswhat is it, Brownsville, Yeah,
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somewhere at the southernmost point of Texasto one of this little city up in
the Panhandle, like on the edgeof the Panhandle with Oklahoma, and it's
I want to say, like ninehundred and fifty seven miles. Oh wow.
If you drive from that same littletown in the Panhandle of Texas to
Canada. It's like nine hundred andsixty miles and it crosses five states.
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Yeah, well there you go.So, I mean Texas is huge,
you guys, it is big.It is big. But anyway, we're
we digress back to our case.Yes, So, around two thousand and
five, two thousand and six,somewhere around there, Trina Mallow and her
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two young children, they were abouttwo and three, three and four or
so at the time, move intothis little house. It was a two
bedroom, one bathroom house, aboutnine hundred square foot. They're in Charleston,
Okay. Trina, though, kindof likes having her family around,
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so her parents would come to stayfor a wee bit and then go back
home, and then come back andstay for a little bit. And then
her parents just kind of stayed,and then her brothers started to kind of
slowly move into Oh yeah no,and so before long the entire Mallow clan
is living in this house. There'sthere's Alex who is the dad, Carolyne
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the mom, Trina, Ferris andMikey, who are grown adult brothers of
Trina's, and Thomas, who isa minor brother of Trina's. And Trina's
two little kids yeah, that's that'stoo many. Yeah, absolutely away too
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many. Well. The neighbors saidthat the Mallows were not your typical neighborhood
household. Once they moved in,the trash and the debris in the yard
began to pile up. They wouldgo out when when people would have their
trash on the curbs, they wouldgo out and dig through their neighbors trash
and pick something up and take itback to their house and just put it
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there. I mean, if it'sa good condition, I'm not gonna lie.
I've looked at my neighbor's stuff before, you know, and they're getting
rid of let's say a dresser orsomething like that. But it's in good
condition it, I mean, itcan't be missing drawers or anything like that.
I will ask them, you know, what are y'all going to do
with this? Because I could useit, and you know, I've taken
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stuff like that, but I'm notjust you know, I don't do it
a lot, and I don't doit often, but I do it occasionally
so I can see bringing something back. But I mean, yeah, I
when I'm getting rid of stuff thatis good, I'll put it out on
the curb early on a Thursday morning, and I will tape a sign to
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it that says free to your homeor whatever. Right, yeah, and
then if it's still there, I'lllook outside and then if it is still
there, if nobody has picked itup by we'll say two or two thirty
that afternoon, I will actually callour bulk pick up because I have to
call by four. I will callbulk pick up and they'll pick it up
Friday morning if it's still there.If somebody picks it up in the middle
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of the night, bulk pick upjust kind of drives on by my house
and says, somebody picked it up, and they keep on going. So
but I don't get charged for bulkpick up, So it's fine, okay,
okay, but that but you know, I don't know what all they
were taking. I have seen picturesof this house. It was not a
pretty sight. It was there wasit was trash like trash. Well,
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there's so many people living there.There are so many people living there.
Eight people, eight people in atwo bedroom house. Yeah, yeah,
that's just nope, that's too much. Eight people in a nine hundred foot
square house. No, no,no, can't, crazy, can't.
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Anyway, it was also reported thatthey were pretty mean to animals. Oh
no. It was reported that oneof the adult boys had beaten too different
dogs to death with a stick.One one had killed seven kittens and buried
them under the house. And itwas even reported that someone was running around
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the street or the neighborhood something likethat with a cat head on a stick.
You so gross, you I'm sorry. I wouldn't even have people like
that in my house. I mean, first of all, I'm not letting
everybody in my family move in withme. Anyway. Well, I think
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Trina was okay with it though.Okay, you know, I mean if
you're raised, you know, Iget it from my understanding. Trina was
okay with it, and she waslike, yes, all of you come
live with me, Come live withme, Come live with me. Oh
I like my family a lot,but not that much. Yeah. I
lived two hours away from my fitclosest family, so you know it's fine.
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Anyway. Now, some people didreport that Thomas, who was fourteen
in two thousand and nine he wasthe minor child, m that he was
nice and helpful. He would shovelsnow for the neighbors, he would mow
their yards, he would dig theyards up for their vegetable gardens. Ferris
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would help fix the neighborhood cars.Well, that's good. It was also
reported though, that somewhere around twothousand and eight or so, CPS did
get involved and removed the youngest kidsfrom the house, but then they got
the house all cleaned up and sothe kids were retired. Okay, okay,
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So Thomas made friends with the littleold lady that lived across the street
from them from the Mallows. Hername was Phyllis Ferris. Okay, she
was a widow. She lived therealone, and she took a special interest
in Thomas, not just because hedidn't seem to be like the rest of
the Mallows, but I'm speculate thatit's it's because she genuinely loved and cared
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for him and his mild, mannered, quiet self nice. Another thing that
kind of stood out about Thomas fromthe rest of the Mallow clan was the
general The rest of the Mellow clankind of had darker hair, like black
or super super dark brown, almostblack, like they had really dark hair.
Huh. But Thomas had bright redhair. Oh okay, okay,
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like bright red hair, like fireengine red, bright red nice. Yes,
let's talk about Phyllis for a minute. Okay. So she was born
in nineteen twenty seven. She hada loving and a sweet disposition. She
didn't really have a bad word tosay about pretty much anybody. Really.
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She had a routine where she wouldget up in the mornings, make herself,
make herself a cup of coffee,go sit out on her porch with
her cup of coffee, and pickup her morning paper and read her morning
paper with her neighbor next door toher, who would do the exact same
thing every morning. Nice, andthey'd talk over coffee and reading the paper.
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Well. Her daughter had for ahot minute, been trying to convince
her mother to move out of thisneighborhood, mainly because of the mallows.
Okay. Phillis had confided in herdaughter that she had concerns about the way
Thomas and the two little kids werebeing treated. But her daughter said,
Mom, h no, stay outof it. Not your business, not
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your monkey's, not your circus.Stay out of it. I'm worried if
you did say anything to anybody aboutthis, your personal safety here is at
risk. Right Okay? I agreewith the daughter. Yes, so,
mom, I really wish you'd moveout of this neighborhood for this reason.
And Phillis was like, I don'tthink so, sweetheart. I've lived here
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for over fifty years. I amnot moving, not going anywhere. I'm
with you on that. Phyllis Well. On June thirteenth of two thousand and
nine, Phyllis and her daughter spentthe evening together. They went out to
dinner, went and saw a movie. The daughter took her mom home,
said hey, I'll talk to youtomorrow. Phillis is like, all right,
cool, and the daughter left andPhyllis went in. It was about
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ten o'clock or so I think,and Phyllis went inside to get ready for
bed. Well, she's getting readyfor bed. She hears like some crazy
noise or something from outside, kidsbeing rowdy or fighting or something. And
she goes out onto her porch andshe saw that it was Thomas, And
I want to say it was Thomasand a couple of other kids being kind
of rowdy, okay, out inthe street. And she said exactly,
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And she said, Thomas knocking off, what is wrong with you? It
is late and Thomas completely out ofcharacter for him, possibly because he's hanging
around with his friends was like,shut up your old biddy and go to
bed. Yep, yeap, yeap. He's with this hanging out with his
crew, and yeah, you gottashow off for him. I getting Yeah.
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So so Phyllis was like, whatthe heck in heck is? She
close her door, finish she's gettingready for bed, and goes on to
bed. Well, the next morning, Phyllis's daughter called her mom. Her
mom didn't answer. She's like,oh, she's probably already out on the
porch with missus neighbor lady, drinkingin their coffee, reading their paper whatever.
She'll call me back in a littlebit, right. Well, her
mom didn't call her back, soshe called back again later that day and
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still no answer from her mom,and she's getting kind of worried because her
mom's eighty two. Oh yeah,yeah, so she's getting kind of worried.
So she says husband, hey,we need to go check on my
mom. And husband's like, allright, get in the car and let's
go. Yep. So they driveover to Phyllis's home and when they get
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there, the daughter notices that thenewspaper is still sitting on the front porch.
She notices on she noticed is thatthe front porch light is still turned
on. And this is I wantto say, like five o'clock or so
in the afternoon. Okay, well, now the newspaper would give me concern
the porch lot, not necessarily,because I turned my porch lot on and
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I leave it on all the time, so I don't forget to turn it
on. So well, I don'tturn mine on unless somebody's coming or going
in the dark time. Yeah,okay, but you know that's just me.
That's just because I don't want peopleknocking on my door at eleven o'clock
at night saying, hey, Ibroke down, Can you help me?
Like, nope, not helping you, going, I'm in bed. I'm
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sorry. So she's concerned. Yes, They open the door and they find
Phyllis on her couch dead. Ohno. They run outside, they're screaming,
and one of the neighbors calls nineto one one and says, hey,
you need to get out here.My neighbor's daughter came to check on
her and found her dead in herhome and there's blood everywhere, and y'all
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need to get out here right now. Yes, yeah, especially since there's
blood everywhere. Yes, we needattention right now. Absolutely, So the
cops show up and they say,yes, this is for sure a super
gruesome crime scene. Phyllis had beenstabbed about thirty five times what and her
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throat had been slit nearly decapitating her. Oh my goodness. Yes, of
course. The neighbors in the neighborhoodare all being nosy Nelly's and they're gathering
around outside the yellow crime scene tapearound Phyllis's home. Investigators are watching because
they know that sometimes the bad guycomes back. He likes to watch the
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aftermath of his handiwork. Yep,that's what I've heard. So they're just
kind of watching and they're looking,and they're paying attention, and they're I
can notes. But the only thingthat really caught their attention was this little
redheaded teenager kid, which turned outto be Thomas, who was kind of
riding around the area on his bicycleinstead of just kind of standing around congregating.
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I don't think that's super weird becausehe's fourteen and he's riding a bike
like that's normal. I think,well, I don't know. I feel
most people technically really would be nosy. Ooh what happened? Because you know,
I think hum and her had adecent relationship from what you had said.
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So yeah, well, you know, and he's watching, you know,
what's going on. He's watching whatthe investigators are doing, you know,
but he's just kind of kind ofcoasting around the group on his bike,
watching all this going on. Okay, Well, he eventually worked up
the nerve to go up to oneof the investigators and he told this in
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investigator. He said, Hey,last night I saw a big black guy
in a black hoodie go up ontoMissus Ferris's porch and talk his weight inside.
I don't know what happened after that, but that's what I saw.
And it was kind of late atnight. Wow. And the cops were
like, okay, you know,well, we need to take you down
to the station get an official statement. His parents are like, all right,
(20:22):
cool. They take Thomas down atthe station, they get a statement
from him. He sticks to thestory, even though the cops were like,
no, we think he knows morethan he's telling us, Like maybe
he knows who this guy is,but maybe he's just too scared to tell
us. Right now. We'll letit go for right now, we'll come
back, we'll circle back around toit, you know later on in our
investigation. It's fine. Well,the next day, on June fifteenth,
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the investigators roll up to the mallowHouse and they knock on the door and
they say, hey, mister Alexguy. Because Alex answered the door,
they said, hey, mister Alex, you know, can do you mind
if, as part of our investigationinto the murderer of missus Ferris, directly
across the street from your house,do you mind if we come in and
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search your house, you know,to see, if you know, just
to kind of look around, rightAnd Alex said, yeah, not a
problem. Called everybody out of thehouse. Everybody congregates out on the front
porch as the cops get ready togo in and just kind of look around.
Once inside, though, the investigatorsare absolutely horrified. Oh new.
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The outside of this house did noteven come close to preparing them for what
the inside would look like. Ohno. They said. It was absolutely
infested with cockroaches. More than oneperson described it as so many that it
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legit looked like the floor was movingyou ooh, that's oh oh, oh,
I can't. There was human fecalmatter all over the place because the
toilet wasn't functioning. There was trasheverywhere, old food, just all sorts
of things, and it was justtotally trashed out. Oh my god.
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So it was reported that this waskind of what the mallows did. They
would move in somewhere completely trash theplace out, get evicted, move into
another house, and do the samething. Oh wow. So they go
upstairs. This is a two storyhome. I want to say there was
just a bedroom upstairs. But theygo upstairs and when they get upstairs,
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they find Trina and her two littlekids lying on this mattress that was super
super dirty and it seemed to beon the verge of rotting. It was
so dirty and bad. But theyalso noticed a hole in the floor next
to this mattress that the kids couldhave easily fallen through. Oh my god.
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Yeah, like what, Well,now the cops know that when they
leave here, they're going to haveto call CPS to come do their job.
Like, you know, this isno longer just a murder investigation.
They gotta worry about these kids nowtoo, right. So, but before
the cops leave and call CPS,they go outside and they're talking to the
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mallows that are out there, andThomas is kind of hanging out on the
fringes, you know. But likeI said, he's been described as quiet,
shy, kind of keeps to himself. Not He's not like the rest
of the Mallows right anyway, Sothe cops are outside, Thomas is kind
of on the fringes, is kindof listening, not really saying anything,
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kind of just doing his own littlefourteen year old boy thing. M And
Ferris, one of the older brothers, says to one of them, says
to this cop, you know,I think your head would look pretty awesome
up on our mantle. You what, No, No, just yeah,
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worked stuff out like that. Whatare you crazy? Yeah. Well,
then they noticed that Thomas had kindof disappeared, so they're kind of looking
around for him, like, hey, where did this kid go? And
they see him kind of going intoa crawl space under the house and they're
like, dude, what are youdoing? Yeah, Thomas says nothing and
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he comes out. Well, ofcourse, after he comes out, the
cops kind of look inside, youknow, to say, hey, what's
going on under here? And theynotice this black hoodie and they pulled his
hoodie out and they noticed that ithas some what looks like could possibly be
some specks of blood on it,and that's when the rest of the Mallows
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that are outside goes, oh,that's probably from when we were cleaning fish
the other day. It's fish blood. And somebody was like, no,
it's probably dear blood. And somebodysaid, you know what, it's probably
a picture of both, Like whatare you talking about. Cops obviously think
this is kind of suspiciou, sothey're like, well, we're gonna take
this shirt in as ads and we'regoing to run some tests on it.
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So they leave. When they leave, they make the call to CPS.
CPS comes in, they kind oflook around and they remove all three of
the minor children, including Thomas.Okay, well, at this point,
the investigators are pretty sure that itwas a mallow that killed Phyllis Ferris.
I just don't know which one itwas, right, And they don't really
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have any proof. It's just they'regut feeling here, right, right,
So they do some testing on thehoodie. It comes back that it is
human blood. That's all they needto get a search warrant for the house.
So they go back to the houseand they have each of the remaining
Mallow family members come down for questioning. Thomas even agrees to be questioned again.
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Of course, he's now a wardof the state, even if only
temporarily, so you know, itwasn't hard for them to get access to
him. Correct. So Thomas isin the interview room and he finally says,
Okay, here's the deal. Whathad happened was, Oh, I
was outside, I was being anobnoxious little punk kid late Saturday night.
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Missus Ferris came out and she yelledat me, and I yelled back at
her, and she went inside.But I was still big mad. So
I went home and I got aknife, and I went back and I
knocked on her door. And shelikes me, so I talked my way
in the house. And when Igot in the house and she closed the
door, I told her. Iwas like, Missus Ferris, there's kids
outside and they're throwing rocks at yourhouse. And when she went to the
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window to look out the window tosee who was throwing rocks at her house
so she could go yell at themor call the cops, don't even know,
do whatever it was she needed todo. That's when I attacked and
I stabbed her, and I stabbedher and I stabbed her until she was
dead. Wow. And then Iwent and I took my knife and I
tossed it down some stairs in adifferent part of the neighborhood. And then
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I hit the hoodie under my house, and now we're here. Oh my
god, Thomas. So, Thomasis arrested for the murder of Phyllis Ferris.
Less than twenty four hours later,his mom, who was fifty five,
his dad, who was sixty seven, and his sister, who was
twenty seven, would all three alsobe arrested, but for a completely different
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reason. Oh okay. They werecharged with child endangerment and they were each
held on a twenty five thousand dollarscash bond because of the condition of this
house. Okay, a day ortwo later, maybe a day or two
before. Kind of conflicting timelines insome of the things that I read.
Mikey Mallow, who was twenty three, was arrested and charged with first degree
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sexual abuse. Turns out that heallegedly had hit his nephew in the genitals
with a ruler, among other things. Oh my god. Yeah, very
Smallow, who was twenty nine.He's the one that said, hey,
your head would look great on ourmantel. Up there, weirdo. He
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is now the only mallow that isnot behind bars. But that wouldn't last
long. Up there, you go. Just another day or so later,
his ex wife goes to the copsand says, look, he's broken into
my house three times over the lastcouple of months and raped me. The
last time was just a few hoursbefore Missus Ferris was found. Oh my
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goodness, and they're like what shesaid. Yeah. The first time he
used a lock pick to get insidemy house and he hid behind the curtains
while I took a shower, andthen he raped me, and he told
me that he had the right too, because you're still my woman. And
he told me that if I squealed, he would deny it and he'd get
away with it and it'd be fine. M So, then about a month
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later, he broke in again,but my sister was there and she made
him, so he did. Buthe came back a little bit later,
like half an hour or so later, and when I was telling him to
get out, he was like,I came for one thing, and I'm
gonna get it, and he rapedher again. She said that the third
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time he came back, like Isaid, just right before missus. Ferris
was found. He was in themiddle of raping her when someone else came
home and he freaked out and heran, but not before saying I will
be back to finish it. Yeah. Some people's kids, that's that's uh,
I know. So they get this, you know, they take this
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report from his ex wife and they'rerunning his name or whatever, and they
come across another report with the nameof Ferris Mellow on it, and they're
like, huh, it's kind ofan older report and they read through it
and it turns out that previously Icouldn't find out how previously, just previously,
a teenager had told authorities her dad, maybe her stepdad kind of read
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both had traded her to Ferris forsome beer money and some drugs, and
she was forced to have sex withFerris, but she finally got away and
ran away and told on him.Oh my god. Either way, the
cops ended up picking up Ferris,and now the only Mallow family members not
behind bars were the two young childrenwho were in foster care. Mmm.
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Yeah. Alex Mallow ended up beingsentenced to one to three years in prison
for the child neglect. So fromokay, so I want to say that
all the Mallows pled guilty to theirvarious charges. The only one I'm not
completely sure on is Ferris. Icouldn't find anything that said specifically whether he
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went to trial or whether he madea plea deal. Okay, but Alex
Mallow was sentenced to one to threeyears in prison for the child neglect.
Carolyn Mallow was sentenced to ten months. Trina Mallow was sentenced to five years.
Wow, Mikey Mallow, this onereally irritated me. Mikey Mallow was
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sentenced to a hundred and eighty daysfor pleading guilty to two counts of third
degree sexual abuse. M He wasout within just a couple of weeks because
he got credit for time served.By the way, Oh my god,
yeah, yeah, what are youwhat? So frustrating? So frustrating,
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m So Ferris. Like I said, I'm not sure if he pled guilty
or if he went to trial,but either way, he was convicted of
nighttime burglary, sexual abuse by aparent guardian orchestodian, and third degree sexual
assault and received a forty year goodI'm glad of that. Thomas Mallow did
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end up waiving his right to beconsidered a juvenile, and he was sentenced
as an adult he pled guilty tosecond degree murder, and he was given
a forty year sentence. In twentytwelve, after he turned eighteen, West
Virginia law required that his sentence bere evaluated. So he has this other
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hearing and he goes in and thejudge, you know, they presented evidence
that said, you know, hey, he's got the academic skills of a
first grader, he's got the interpersonaland coping skills of a seven year old.
He's found to be functioning on aboutthe level of a ten year old.
And his attorney argued that his sentenceshould be shortened some since he had
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been basically a model inmate for theprevious years, well except for that one
time in January or maybe June.I read it was both months. Obviously
it can't be both months, right, But he and another inmate had tried
to escape and they assaulted a guardin the process. But that's the only
thing he's ever done since he's beenincarcerated. So that's something though, that's
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something. And it was said thatThomas, or it was reported that,
you know, during this hearing,Thomas said, I just want missus Ferris's
family to know that I'm very sorryfor what I've done. Either way.
Two hours of testimony, the judgecome back and said, look, this
was a really really bad thing thatyou did, bro. It was super
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violent, and no matter what y'allsay here, I just don't see anything
that tells me that this sentence shouldchange. So now it's time to be
transferred to a big boy facility.Finish out serving your sentence. Thank you
and good day, And that ismy case. Wow, good for the
judge. I'm yes, yes,wow. Wow. Everybody goes to jail.
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You go to jail, and yougo to jail. Everybody goes to
jail. Yeah, it's like theywent on Oprah, but for jail.
Oh my god. Yeah. LikeI said, it kind of reminded me
of the one we did for thePatreon even though that one spanned four generations,
this one didn't. But it wasevery member of this household except for
the six and seven year old.Yes, well, but you don't let
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to have a feeling being in thathousehold. Had they stayed in that much
longer, they would have turned outjust like the rest of them. It's
possible, it's very possible. Thatis so crazy, so crazy, Oh
my god. Wow. Yeah,it's wow, like what yeah, yeah,
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that yikes. To think there's actualpeople out there like that. That
just it's the only words you canjust these people is trash. That's it.
These are trash people. Yeah,yeah, it's it's crazy. It
was insane. I come across thisand I said, what what are you
(35:15):
kidding me? And it just keptgetting worse and I was like, Okay,
it cannot get any worse than this, and then it would and then
it would again, and it keptand I was just oh what, Yeah,
that's that's disgusting. So then Isaid, yeah, I have to
tell my mommy and all of ourfriends about this. Yep, well I'm
glad you did. I appreciate it, thank you very much. And yeah,
(35:42):
now I feel like I just needto go clean something. I'm just
saying I need to go dirty.I just feel like it's something is dirty,
it needs to be clean. It'sme. I need a shower.
I feel like I need a shower. Yes, yeah, I agree,
I agree. I gotta go checkmy floors make sure nothing crawling. Oh
yeah, that just gives that justgives my skin crawl. And I watched
(36:05):
an episode of Evil Kin on thisthat that covered the Mala family, and
they're they're showing you know, ofcourse dramatic reenactments and stuff like that,
of these bugs crawling everywhere in thishouse, and the whole time I was
just like, oh God, oh, is there anyway I can just like
you know, and float in theair so nothing is touching me, because
(36:30):
like yeah, oh that's that's ohyeah yeah, okay, yeah, I
gotta yeah, I gotta go orsomething. So anyway, I guess until
next time, y'all, thank youfor joining us, and we will talk
to you next time. Bye agood one, okay bye. The pot
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Yes, absolutely, So what's inyour mug this week? Well, in
my mug, it's it's not reallya mug, it's a cup. But
(01:14):
I was out doing some running aroundand it was a little hot because yeah,
yeah, still Texas and it's ahundred plus. So I actually stopped
by Starbucks and I got me ait's called a caramel ribbon crunch frappuccino.
Oh, I know you're not abig fan of carmel, No, I
(01:38):
am. I love carmel, soit's amazing. It's nice and cool and
I don't know what this crunch ontop is, but it's delicious and I
want a freaking bag of it.Oh my god, this thing is.
It's good. It's good deal,good deal. Yeah, and what's in
(01:59):
your book? Oil? I okay. So we're recording this several weeks before
it releases because we are preparing togo to Austin. This actually comes out
the day before we leave for Austin. Yes, so I actually am currently
surrounded by wildfires where I'm at.We have one to the north of me.
(02:23):
We have two to the west ofme. We have last I checked,
one to the south of me,none to the east, thank goodness.
But the one to one of theones to the west of me is
like within four miles of my citylimits. Oh wow, I don't live
far from my city limits. Nowyou don't. That's because your city's kind
(02:46):
of little anyway, so my cityis pretty small. But anyway, so
I am actually drinking a hot coffee, but I am drinking army of dark
chocolates like normal because I find itcomforting and I'm hoping that if I just
drink my nice and warm, comfortingarmy of dark chocolate coffee. The fires
(03:07):
will stay away because I'm warm enoughexactly. Yes. And you your calm,
cool, collected drinking something that youenjoy. Yes, So keep that'll
keep the fires away. I gotyou. That's what's in my mug this
week. Nice, very nice.So all right, well this week I
(03:27):
have a case for us. Okay, I'm ready to dive in now you're
not. Oh god, okay.So four July's exclusive episode that we did
for our Patreon members, it wasa case that had some generational craziness going
(03:47):
on. It's like four generations.Yes, again, sorry to our Patreon
members because you didn't get that toAugust, but you got it, so
yes, But yeah, it kindof spans generational, several generations. This
one kind of reminds me of thata little bit, but not really.
(04:08):
Okay, I mean it's it's thepeople are bad people, m but it's
more just like this whole generation insteadof multiple generations. Okay, what is
what I think? Made me go? Oh? These are kind of similar.
But this week we're going to goto Charleston, West Virginia. Okay,
(04:30):
they're probably having better weather than weare right now, I am so
sure. So, but Charleston isthe most populous city in West Virginia.
It is the capital of West Virginia, and the population in two thousand was
about fifty three thousand, and intwo thousand and ten the population was about
fifty one thousand. Wow, youknow what I mean if you think about
(04:51):
it, I guess because the citiesand stuff are so much smaller because the
area the state itself is so muchsmaller than Texas. I hear a number
like that, and I'm like,oh, that's just a little bitty place,
but the whole entire state is somuch smaller than our state. So
(05:13):
you know, so my dog watchesTV when I leave him home alone.
Well, you gotta give him somethingto do. And I've noticed that he
likes to actually watch the shows thathave animals on them. So he was
watching Northwood's Law, which is justmain game wardens. It just follows main
game wardens around everywhere. Well,they also have one for Texas that says
Loan. It's called Lone Star Law. Both of these you can stream on
(05:36):
Discovery Plus. Okay, And soI told him, I was like,
you know what, instead of watchingMaine you're gonna watch Texas because you need
to learn about the things that canget you here where you live. So
I turned the lone Star Law oneon, and in the introduction of it,
it says, you know, largerthan what was it, larger than
(05:56):
California, Maine, and and ohanother state, but I cannot remember what
state it was right off the topof my head combined, is the state
of Texas. Yes, And Iwas like, yeah, it's it's bigger
than all three of those states puttogether. Whatever that third state is,
I can't remember right off the topof my head. But yeah, Texas
(06:18):
is huge, y'all. Like it'sa day to drive from one side of
Texas to the other. Absolutely,you can drive, you know, a
good ten twelve hours and still bein the same state. So you can
drive from the southernmost point of Texaswhat is it, Brownsville, Yeah,
(06:40):
somewhere at the southernmost point of Texasto one of this little city up in
the Panhandle, like on the edgeof the Panhandle with Oklahoma, and it's
I want to say, like ninehundred and fifty seven miles. Oh wow.
If you drive from that same littletown in the Panhandle of Texas to
Canada. It's like nine hundred andsixty miles and it crosses five states.
(07:05):
Yeah, well there you go.So, I mean Texas is huge,
you guys, it is big.It is big. But anyway, we're
we digress back to our case.Yes, So, around two thousand and
five, two thousand and six,somewhere around there, Trina Mallow and her
(07:25):
two young children, they were abouttwo and three, three and four or
so at the time, move intothis little house. It was a two
bedroom, one bathroom house, aboutnine hundred square foot. They're in Charleston,
Okay. Trina, though, kindof likes having her family around,
(07:46):
so her parents would come to stayfor a wee bit and then go back
home, and then come back andstay for a little bit. And then
her parents just kind of stayed,and then her brothers started to kind of
slowly move into Oh yeah no,and so before long the entire Mallow clan
is living in this house. There'sthere's Alex who is the dad, Carolyne
(08:13):
the mom, Trina, Ferris andMikey, who are grown adult brothers of
Trina's, and Thomas, who isa minor brother of Trina's. And Trina's
two little kids yeah, that's that'stoo many. Yeah, absolutely away too
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many. Well. The neighbors saidthat the Mallows were not your typical neighborhood
household. Once they moved in,the trash and the debris in the yard
began to pile up. They wouldgo out when when people would have their
trash on the curbs, they wouldgo out and dig through their neighbors trash
and pick something up and take itback to their house and just put it
(08:56):
there. I mean, if it'sa good condition, I'm not gonna lie.
I've looked at my neighbor's stuff before, you know, and they're getting
rid of let's say a dresser orsomething like that. But it's in good
condition it, I mean, itcan't be missing drawers or anything like that.
I will ask them, you know, what are y'all going to do
with this? Because I could useit, and you know, I've taken
(09:20):
stuff like that, but I'm notjust you know, I don't do it
a lot, and I don't doit often, but I do it occasionally
so I can see bringing something back. But I mean, yeah, I
when I'm getting rid of stuff thatis good, I'll put it out on
the curb early on a Thursday morning, and I will tape a sign to
(09:43):
it that says free to your homeor whatever. Right, yeah, and
then if it's still there, I'lllook outside and then if it is still
there, if nobody has picked itup by we'll say two or two thirty
that afternoon, I will actually callour bulk pick up because I have to
call by four. I will callbulk pick up and they'll pick it up
Friday morning if it's still there.If somebody picks it up in the middle
(10:05):
of the night, bulk pick upjust kind of drives on by my house
and says, somebody picked it up, and they keep on going. So
but I don't get charged for bulkpick up, So it's fine, okay,
okay, but that but you know, I don't know what all they
were taking. I have seen picturesof this house. It was not a
pretty sight. It was there wasit was trash like trash. Well,
(10:28):
there's so many people living there.There are so many people living there.
Eight people, eight people in atwo bedroom house. Yeah, yeah,
that's just nope, that's too much. Eight people in a nine hundred foot
square house. No, no,no, can't, crazy, can't.
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Anyway, it was also reported thatthey were pretty mean to animals. Oh
no. It was reported that oneof the adult boys had beaten too different
dogs to death with a stick.One one had killed seven kittens and buried
them under the house. And itwas even reported that someone was running around
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the street or the neighborhood something likethat with a cat head on a stick.
You so gross, you I'm sorry. I wouldn't even have people like
that in my house. I mean, first of all, I'm not letting
everybody in my family move in withme. Anyway. Well, I think
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Trina was okay with it though.Okay, you know, I mean if
you're raised, you know, Iget it from my understanding. Trina was
okay with it, and she waslike, yes, all of you come
live with me, Come live withme, Come live with me. Oh
I like my family a lot,but not that much. Yeah. I
lived two hours away from my fitclosest family, so you know it's fine.
(11:58):
Anyway. Now, some people didreport that Thomas, who was fourteen
in two thousand and nine he wasthe minor child, m that he was
nice and helpful. He would shovelsnow for the neighbors, he would mow
their yards, he would dig theyards up for their vegetable gardens. Ferris
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would help fix the neighborhood cars.Well, that's good. It was also
reported though, that somewhere around twothousand and eight or so, CPS did
get involved and removed the youngest kidsfrom the house, but then they got
the house all cleaned up and sothe kids were retired. Okay, okay,
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So Thomas made friends with the littleold lady that lived across the street
from them from the Mallows. Hername was Phyllis Ferris. Okay, she
was a widow. She lived therealone, and she took a special interest
in Thomas, not just because hedidn't seem to be like the rest of
the Mallows, but I'm speculate thatit's it's because she genuinely loved and cared
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for him and his mild, mannered, quiet self nice. Another thing that
kind of stood out about Thomas fromthe rest of the Mallow clan was the
general The rest of the Mellow clankind of had darker hair, like black
or super super dark brown, almostblack, like they had really dark hair.
Huh. But Thomas had bright redhair. Oh okay, okay,
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like bright red hair, like fireengine red, bright red nice. Yes,
let's talk about Phyllis for a minute. Okay. So she was born
in nineteen twenty seven. She hada loving and a sweet disposition. She
didn't really have a bad word tosay about pretty much anybody. Really.
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She had a routine where she wouldget up in the mornings, make herself,
make herself a cup of coffee,go sit out on her porch with
her cup of coffee, and pickup her morning paper and read her morning
paper with her neighbor next door toher, who would do the exact same
thing every morning. Nice, andthey'd talk over coffee and reading the paper.
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Well. Her daughter had for ahot minute, been trying to convince
her mother to move out of thisneighborhood, mainly because of the mallows.
Okay. Phillis had confided in herdaughter that she had concerns about the way
Thomas and the two little kids werebeing treated. But her daughter said,
Mom, h no, stay outof it. Not your business, not
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your monkey's, not your circus.Stay out of it. I'm worried if
you did say anything to anybody aboutthis, your personal safety here is at
risk. Right Okay? I agreewith the daughter. Yes, so,
mom, I really wish you'd moveout of this neighborhood for this reason.
And Phillis was like, I don'tthink so, sweetheart. I've lived here
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for over fifty years. I amnot moving, not going anywhere. I'm
with you on that. Phyllis Well. On June thirteenth of two thousand and
nine, Phyllis and her daughter spentthe evening together. They went out to
dinner, went and saw a movie. The daughter took her mom home,
said hey, I'll talk to youtomorrow. Phillis is like, all right,
cool, and the daughter left andPhyllis went in. It was about
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ten o'clock or so I think,and Phyllis went inside to get ready for
bed. Well, she's getting readyfor bed. She hears like some crazy
noise or something from outside, kidsbeing rowdy or fighting or something. And
she goes out onto her porch andshe saw that it was Thomas, And
I want to say it was Thomasand a couple of other kids being kind
of rowdy, okay, out inthe street. And she said exactly,
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And she said, Thomas knocking off, what is wrong with you? It
is late and Thomas completely out ofcharacter for him, possibly because he's hanging
around with his friends was like,shut up your old biddy and go to
bed. Yep, yeap, yeap. He's with this hanging out with his
crew, and yeah, you gottashow off for him. I getting Yeah.
(16:07):
So so Phyllis was like, whatthe heck in heck is? She
close her door, finish she's gettingready for bed, and goes on to
bed. Well, the next morning, Phyllis's daughter called her mom. Her
mom didn't answer. She's like,oh, she's probably already out on the
porch with missus neighbor lady, drinkingin their coffee, reading their paper whatever.
She'll call me back in a littlebit, right. Well, her
mom didn't call her back, soshe called back again later that day and
(16:30):
still no answer from her mom,and she's getting kind of worried because her
mom's eighty two. Oh yeah,yeah, so she's getting kind of worried.
So she says husband, hey,we need to go check on my
mom. And husband's like, allright, get in the car and let's
go. Yep. So they driveover to Phyllis's home and when they get
(16:52):
there, the daughter notices that thenewspaper is still sitting on the front porch.
She notices on she noticed is thatthe front porch light is still turned
on. And this is I wantto say, like five o'clock or so
in the afternoon. Okay, well, now the newspaper would give me concern
the porch lot, not necessarily,because I turned my porch lot on and
(17:15):
I leave it on all the time, so I don't forget to turn it
on. So well, I don'tturn mine on unless somebody's coming or going
in the dark time. Yeah,okay, but you know that's just me.
That's just because I don't want peopleknocking on my door at eleven o'clock
at night saying, hey, Ibroke down, Can you help me?
Like, nope, not helping you, going, I'm in bed. I'm
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sorry. So she's concerned. Yes, They open the door and they find
Phyllis on her couch dead. Ohno. They run outside, they're screaming,
and one of the neighbors calls nineto one one and says, hey,
you need to get out here.My neighbor's daughter came to check on
her and found her dead in herhome and there's blood everywhere, and y'all
(18:02):
need to get out here right now. Yes, yeah, especially since there's
blood everywhere. Yes, we needattention right now. Absolutely, So the
cops show up and they say,yes, this is for sure a super
gruesome crime scene. Phyllis had beenstabbed about thirty five times what and her
(18:26):
throat had been slit nearly decapitating her. Oh my goodness. Yes, of
course. The neighbors in the neighborhoodare all being nosy Nelly's and they're gathering
around outside the yellow crime scene tapearound Phyllis's home. Investigators are watching because
they know that sometimes the bad guycomes back. He likes to watch the
(18:51):
aftermath of his handiwork. Yep,that's what I've heard. So they're just
kind of watching and they're looking,and they're paying attention, and they're I
can notes. But the only thingthat really caught their attention was this little
redheaded teenager kid, which turned outto be Thomas, who was kind of
riding around the area on his bicycleinstead of just kind of standing around congregating.
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I don't think that's super weird becausehe's fourteen and he's riding a bike
like that's normal. I think,well, I don't know. I feel
most people technically really would be nosy. Ooh what happened? Because you know,
I think hum and her had adecent relationship from what you had said.
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So yeah, well, you know, and he's watching, you know,
what's going on. He's watching whatthe investigators are doing, you know,
but he's just kind of kind ofcoasting around the group on his bike,
watching all this going on. Okay, Well, he eventually worked up
the nerve to go up to oneof the investigators and he told this in
(20:00):
investigator. He said, Hey,last night I saw a big black guy
in a black hoodie go up ontoMissus Ferris's porch and talk his weight inside.
I don't know what happened after that, but that's what I saw.
And it was kind of late atnight. Wow. And the cops were
like, okay, you know,well, we need to take you down
to the station get an official statement. His parents are like, all right,
(20:22):
cool. They take Thomas down atthe station, they get a statement
from him. He sticks to thestory, even though the cops were like,
no, we think he knows morethan he's telling us, Like maybe
he knows who this guy is,but maybe he's just too scared to tell
us. Right now. We'll letit go for right now, we'll come
back, we'll circle back around toit, you know later on in our
investigation. It's fine. Well,the next day, on June fifteenth,
(20:47):
the investigators roll up to the mallowHouse and they knock on the door and
they say, hey, mister Alexguy. Because Alex answered the door,
they said, hey, mister Alex, you know, can do you mind
if, as part of our investigationinto the murderer of missus Ferris, directly
across the street from your house,do you mind if we come in and
(21:07):
search your house, you know,to see, if you know, just
to kind of look around, rightAnd Alex said, yeah, not a
problem. Called everybody out of thehouse. Everybody congregates out on the front
porch as the cops get ready togo in and just kind of look around.
Once inside, though, the investigatorsare absolutely horrified. Oh new.
(21:30):
The outside of this house did noteven come close to preparing them for what
the inside would look like. Ohno. They said. It was absolutely
infested with cockroaches. More than oneperson described it as so many that it
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legit looked like the floor was movingyou ooh, that's oh oh, oh,
I can't. There was human fecalmatter all over the place because the
toilet wasn't functioning. There was trasheverywhere, old food, just all sorts
of things, and it was justtotally trashed out. Oh my god.
(22:15):
So it was reported that this waskind of what the mallows did. They
would move in somewhere completely trash theplace out, get evicted, move into
another house, and do the samething. Oh wow. So they go
upstairs. This is a two storyhome. I want to say there was
just a bedroom upstairs. But theygo upstairs and when they get upstairs,
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they find Trina and her two littlekids lying on this mattress that was super
super dirty and it seemed to beon the verge of rotting. It was
so dirty and bad. But theyalso noticed a hole in the floor next
to this mattress that the kids couldhave easily fallen through. Oh my god.
(23:00):
Yeah, like what, Well,now the cops know that when they
leave here, they're going to haveto call CPS to come do their job.
Like, you know, this isno longer just a murder investigation.
They gotta worry about these kids nowtoo, right. So, but before
the cops leave and call CPS,they go outside and they're talking to the
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mallows that are out there, andThomas is kind of hanging out on the
fringes, you know. But likeI said, he's been described as quiet,
shy, kind of keeps to himself. Not He's not like the rest
of the Mallows right anyway, Sothe cops are outside, Thomas is kind
of on the fringes, is kindof listening, not really saying anything,
(23:41):
kind of just doing his own littlefourteen year old boy thing. M And
Ferris, one of the older brothers, says to one of them, says
to this cop, you know,I think your head would look pretty awesome
up on our mantle. You what, No, No, just yeah,
(24:02):
worked stuff out like that. Whatare you crazy? Yeah. Well,
then they noticed that Thomas had kindof disappeared, so they're kind of looking
around for him, like, hey, where did this kid go? And
they see him kind of going intoa crawl space under the house and they're
like, dude, what are youdoing? Yeah, Thomas says nothing and
(24:22):
he comes out. Well, ofcourse, after he comes out, the
cops kind of look inside, youknow, to say, hey, what's
going on under here? And theynotice this black hoodie and they pulled his
hoodie out and they noticed that ithas some what looks like could possibly be
some specks of blood on it,and that's when the rest of the Mallows
(24:45):
that are outside goes, oh,that's probably from when we were cleaning fish
the other day. It's fish blood. And somebody was like, no,
it's probably dear blood. And somebodysaid, you know what, it's probably
a picture of both, Like whatare you talking about. Cops obviously think
this is kind of suspiciou, sothey're like, well, we're gonna take
this shirt in as ads and we'regoing to run some tests on it.
(25:07):
So they leave. When they leave, they make the call to CPS.
CPS comes in, they kind oflook around and they remove all three of
the minor children, including Thomas.Okay, well, at this point,
the investigators are pretty sure that itwas a mallow that killed Phyllis Ferris.
I just don't know which one itwas, right, And they don't really
(25:30):
have any proof. It's just they'regut feeling here, right, right,
So they do some testing on thehoodie. It comes back that it is
human blood. That's all they needto get a search warrant for the house.
So they go back to the houseand they have each of the remaining
Mallow family members come down for questioning. Thomas even agrees to be questioned again.
(25:52):
Of course, he's now a wardof the state, even if only
temporarily, so you know, itwasn't hard for them to get access to
him. Correct. So Thomas isin the interview room and he finally says,
Okay, here's the deal. Whathad happened was, Oh, I
was outside, I was being anobnoxious little punk kid late Saturday night.
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Missus Ferris came out and she yelledat me, and I yelled back at
her, and she went inside.But I was still big mad. So
I went home and I got aknife, and I went back and I
knocked on her door. And shelikes me, so I talked my way
in the house. And when Igot in the house and she closed the
door, I told her. Iwas like, Missus Ferris, there's kids
outside and they're throwing rocks at yourhouse. And when she went to the
(26:37):
window to look out the window tosee who was throwing rocks at her house
so she could go yell at themor call the cops, don't even know,
do whatever it was she needed todo. That's when I attacked and
I stabbed her, and I stabbedher and I stabbed her until she was
dead. Wow. And then Iwent and I took my knife and I
tossed it down some stairs in adifferent part of the neighborhood. And then
(26:59):
I hit the hoodie under my house, and now we're here. Oh my
god, Thomas. So, Thomasis arrested for the murder of Phyllis Ferris.
Less than twenty four hours later,his mom, who was fifty five,
his dad, who was sixty seven, and his sister, who was
twenty seven, would all three alsobe arrested, but for a completely different
(27:21):
reason. Oh okay. They werecharged with child endangerment and they were each
held on a twenty five thousand dollarscash bond because of the condition of this
house. Okay, a day ortwo later, maybe a day or two
before. Kind of conflicting timelines insome of the things that I read.
Mikey Mallow, who was twenty three, was arrested and charged with first degree
(27:45):
sexual abuse. Turns out that heallegedly had hit his nephew in the genitals
with a ruler, among other things. Oh my god. Yeah, very
Smallow, who was twenty nine.He's the one that said, hey,
your head would look great on ourmantel. Up there, weirdo. He
(28:07):
is now the only mallow that isnot behind bars. But that wouldn't last
long. Up there, you go. Just another day or so later,
his ex wife goes to the copsand says, look, he's broken into
my house three times over the lastcouple of months and raped me. The
last time was just a few hoursbefore Missus Ferris was found. Oh my
(28:30):
goodness, and they're like what shesaid. Yeah. The first time he
used a lock pick to get insidemy house and he hid behind the curtains
while I took a shower, andthen he raped me, and he told
me that he had the right too, because you're still my woman. And
he told me that if I squealed, he would deny it and he'd get
away with it and it'd be fine. M So, then about a month
(28:53):
later, he broke in again,but my sister was there and she made
him, so he did. Buthe came back a little bit later,
like half an hour or so later, and when I was telling him to
get out, he was like,I came for one thing, and I'm
gonna get it, and he rapedher again. She said that the third
(29:14):
time he came back, like Isaid, just right before missus. Ferris
was found. He was in themiddle of raping her when someone else came
home and he freaked out and heran, but not before saying I will
be back to finish it. Yeah. Some people's kids, that's that's uh,
I know. So they get this, you know, they take this
(29:37):
report from his ex wife and they'rerunning his name or whatever, and they
come across another report with the nameof Ferris Mellow on it, and they're
like, huh, it's kind ofan older report and they read through it
and it turns out that previously Icouldn't find out how previously, just previously,
a teenager had told authorities her dad, maybe her stepdad kind of read
(30:03):
both had traded her to Ferris forsome beer money and some drugs, and
she was forced to have sex withFerris, but she finally got away and
ran away and told on him.Oh my god. Either way, the
cops ended up picking up Ferris,and now the only Mallow family members not
behind bars were the two young childrenwho were in foster care. Mmm.
(30:30):
Yeah. Alex Mallow ended up beingsentenced to one to three years in prison
for the child neglect. So fromokay, so I want to say that
all the Mallows pled guilty to theirvarious charges. The only one I'm not
completely sure on is Ferris. Icouldn't find anything that said specifically whether he
(30:52):
went to trial or whether he madea plea deal. Okay, but Alex
Mallow was sentenced to one to threeyears in prison for the child neglect.
Carolyn Mallow was sentenced to ten months. Trina Mallow was sentenced to five years.
Wow, Mikey Mallow, this onereally irritated me. Mikey Mallow was
(31:18):
sentenced to a hundred and eighty daysfor pleading guilty to two counts of third
degree sexual abuse. M He wasout within just a couple of weeks because
he got credit for time served.By the way, Oh my god,
yeah, yeah, what are youwhat? So frustrating? So frustrating,
(31:41):
m So Ferris. Like I said, I'm not sure if he pled guilty
or if he went to trial,but either way, he was convicted of
nighttime burglary, sexual abuse by aparent guardian orchestodian, and third degree sexual
assault and received a forty year goodI'm glad of that. Thomas Mallow did
(32:05):
end up waiving his right to beconsidered a juvenile, and he was sentenced
as an adult he pled guilty tosecond degree murder, and he was given
a forty year sentence. In twentytwelve, after he turned eighteen, West
Virginia law required that his sentence bere evaluated. So he has this other
(32:27):
hearing and he goes in and thejudge, you know, they presented evidence
that said, you know, hey, he's got the academic skills of a
first grader, he's got the interpersonaland coping skills of a seven year old.
He's found to be functioning on aboutthe level of a ten year old.
And his attorney argued that his sentenceshould be shortened some since he had
(32:50):
been basically a model inmate for theprevious years, well except for that one
time in January or maybe June.I read it was both months. Obviously
it can't be both months, right, But he and another inmate had tried
to escape and they assaulted a guardin the process. But that's the only
thing he's ever done since he's beenincarcerated. So that's something though, that's
(33:12):
something. And it was said thatThomas, or it was reported that,
you know, during this hearing,Thomas said, I just want missus Ferris's
family to know that I'm very sorryfor what I've done. Either way.
Two hours of testimony, the judgecome back and said, look, this
was a really really bad thing thatyou did, bro. It was super
(33:34):
violent, and no matter what y'allsay here, I just don't see anything
that tells me that this sentence shouldchange. So now it's time to be
transferred to a big boy facility.Finish out serving your sentence. Thank you
and good day, And that ismy case. Wow, good for the
judge. I'm yes, yes,wow. Wow. Everybody goes to jail.
(34:04):
You go to jail, and yougo to jail. Everybody goes to
jail. Yeah, it's like theywent on Oprah, but for jail.
Oh my god. Yeah. LikeI said, it kind of reminded me
of the one we did for thePatreon even though that one spanned four generations,
this one didn't. But it wasevery member of this household except for
the six and seven year old.Yes, well, but you don't let
(34:28):
to have a feeling being in thathousehold. Had they stayed in that much
longer, they would have turned outjust like the rest of them. It's
possible, it's very possible. Thatis so crazy, so crazy, Oh
my god. Wow. Yeah,it's wow, like what yeah, yeah,
(34:51):
that yikes. To think there's actualpeople out there like that. That
just it's the only words you canjust these people is trash. That's it.
These are trash people. Yeah,yeah, it's it's crazy. It
was insane. I come across thisand I said, what what are you
(35:15):
kidding me? And it just keptgetting worse and I was like, Okay,
it cannot get any worse than this, and then it would and then
it would again, and it keptand I was just oh what, Yeah,
that's that's disgusting. So then Isaid, yeah, I have to
tell my mommy and all of ourfriends about this. Yep, well I'm
glad you did. I appreciate it, thank you very much. And yeah,
(35:42):
now I feel like I just needto go clean something. I'm just
saying I need to go dirty.I just feel like it's something is dirty,
it needs to be clean. It'sme. I need a shower.
I feel like I need a shower. Yes, yeah, I agree,
I agree. I gotta go checkmy floors make sure nothing crawling. Oh
yeah, that just gives that justgives my skin crawl. And I watched
(36:05):
an episode of Evil Kin on thisthat that covered the Mala family, and
they're they're showing you know, ofcourse dramatic reenactments and stuff like that,
of these bugs crawling everywhere in thishouse, and the whole time I was
just like, oh God, oh, is there anyway I can just like
you know, and float in theair so nothing is touching me, because
(36:30):
like yeah, oh that's that's ohyeah yeah, okay, yeah, I
gotta yeah, I gotta go orsomething. So anyway, I guess until
next time, y'all, thank youfor joining us, and we will talk
to you next time. Bye agood one, okay bye. The pot
(37:00):
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