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Speaker 1 (00:12):
This episode maintained content of a graphic nature, including descriptions
of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.
Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hi, I'm Shannon. Hi I'm Tanya, and we are Crimes
and Consequences, a hardcore true crime podcast. Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya,
how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I am doing good. You know, it's a wonderful day
in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Really is. The sun is coming out. And I'm gonna
tell you my lotus seeds that I got from Amazon
on Sunday. So I got about four of them and
I put them in a bowl of water, and every
day I change out the water, even though it really
isn't sixty degrees yet, at some point in the day,
I put the bowl out in the sun so the
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little seeds can get sun. And I have a whole
bunch of sprouts. I'm so excited. In second grade, do
you remember growing a seed? I would run to my
cup the seed. What kind of root system was? I
was amazed and fascinated. So that is making my Friday night.
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And then what else?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh sorry, no, no, go ahead, what were you gonna say? Say? Well,
I'm changing the subject right to meat tenderization. That's why
I'm like, hey, why aren't you going? What do you
want to say?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I don't remember. Now we'll let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
About my beat tenderization discovery. So I had gotten a
package of meat for stew, and you know, like you
cook it and it kind of can become really tough.
No matter how slow I've cooked stew meat, the meat
is always so tough. So I was looking at different
recipes and somehow the baking soda arm and hammer came
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on for meat tenderization. So fast forward, go to the website.
I learn to take half a cup of water and
I believe it's either a teaspoon or a tablespoon of
the baking soda, put it all over the meat water,
let it sit for fifteen minutes, rinse it, rinse your
meat after, and then cook it. Tanya, it was the
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fucking most delicious soft meat I have ever. I want
more cuts of meat now, just so I can soften
baking soa. It is so good. So to anyone who
has ever run into that problem or didn't know the
magic of baking soda, it is a really good meat
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tenderizer for lower cuts of meat.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I had no idea, how did I make it this
far in life and not know this?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh the same way, I'm like this should be part
and parcel that should come with the Handbook of Life.
Those are my two big stories before I jump into
this story I got for us today.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But before we start, just remind me everyone to hit subscriber,
follow and whatever after you're listening to a son.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So what do you got for a Shannon?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I have a story about Grant A Motto. I believe
I'm saying his last name right, Grant. He was born
in Orlando, Florida, on May twentieth, nineteen eighty nine, So
that makes him a Taurus Gemini cuss Ooh, yes, the cusp.
His parents were Margaret A Motto and she worked overseeing
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medical coding as a senior operations specialist, and Chad A Moatto,
who worked as a clinical pharmacist. So Grant grew up
quite comfortably, having one older half brother, Jason, who never
lived in the same house, and he had an older
biological brother, Cody. They had the same mom and dad.
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Grant and Cody grew up together and attended Timber Creek
High School, and that's in Orlando, Florida, and that's where
Grant would compete with the high school's weightlifting team. Grant
and Cody were extremely close, as they attended almost all
of their schooling together and they would become members of
a competitive airsoft team since they both really liked to
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fire guns of any sort. They both graduated from the
same high school and both of them went on to
study nursing at the same college, the University of Central Florida.
After they both got their nursing degrees, they both went
on to attend nurse anesthetist programs the big money you
know where you're Oh yeah, well you're working with the anesthesia.
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So while starting up his program, Grant worked as a
registered nurse, but he he left the job in twenty
fourteen at Orlando Regional Medical Center in the ICU. Unfortunately
for Grant, he ended up getting kicked out of the
Nurse Anestisus school not long after he started it. According
to reports, Grant got into a pretty heated argument with
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one of the supervisors within the program, which was what
caused his dismissal. So even though Grant failed out of
the anesthesis program, he still had his nursing degree, and
he was able to find work in the nursing field.
Most of the Ammano family went to college for something medical,
and they continued to work within the medical field one
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way or another. He wasn't about to be the only
immediate family member to fail at studying and working in
the medical field, though, so he found a job at
Advent Health located in Orlando. Advant Health Orlando was formerly
known as Florida Hospital Orlando, so this is a fast
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paced hospital who took Grant on while he was still
living at home with his brother's and parents. On June
of twenty eighteen, Grant was suspended for the improper administration
of sedatives. It was uncovered that he had been administering
more than eight bottles of propofol or diprivan two patients
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without anyone in authority knowing.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh my god, isn't that what killed Michael Jackson? Not
killed him, but yeah, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
This drugs used to slow down the brain and nervous system,
and it's used to assist in putting patients to sleep
and keeping them asleep while they're under general anesthesia, whether
it be for surgery or other medical procedures. This drug
is administered through an IV, so I'm not really sure
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how he was giving it to patients of at least
eight bottles of it without being stopped or noticed. Yeah,
but his reasoning behind his actions was because he thought
these specific patients were not getting the pain management that
they truly needed. Now, this is absolutely crazy propofol for
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pain pain management.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Well, they're not getting the proper pain management, so we're
just gonna knock them out.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
We're just gonna anesthesize.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So this was not the only thing that Grant got
into trouble with while working for the hospital. The hospital
had heard rumors and had their own worries about Grant
stealing prescription drugs, and he was eventually arrested for grand
larceny by Orlando authorities. Even though the hospital opted not
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to press criminal charges against him, he was immediately fired.
Time and time again, Grant tried to find work within
the medical field, but had zero luck, so he decided
to try a different field of work altogether. He tried
making money while using the streaming giant Twitch. Have you
heard of Twitch?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, I've heard of Twitch.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So for those of us who don't really know, Twitch
is a platform where its users can live stream at
any given time, and you're able to make money by
using it the right way. Users live stream themselves. They'll
play video games or creating their own content, and there
is quite the following for the more popular twitch content creators. Basically,
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the users go live and they're able to share their
screens with whoever has followed them and are interested in
watching their live streams pretty easy. Once the creator is live,
his or her followers can see and hear everything that
is happening behind whatever kind of camera or computer they're using.
Usually with gamers, the watch screen will be split. Half
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of the screen the viewers can see the video game
being played, and on the other half another camera is
pointing at the person who's playing the game. Now, I
have heard this being the most popular among gamers, true,
but I'm sure that there are many more different communities
that feature different types of streaming. And I know I
have seen a guy. He got in trouble because he
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would go out on dates with women, like he would
meet on what's the one that you swite left or right?
It's a hookup app? Okay, so like they hooked up.
What he does is talks shitty to her and then
makes her look foolish, and all the time he's like,
oh I thought on JOJ Judy, That's where I saw it.
So he goes on a day and he live streams
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on Twitch to like make himself look cool. Oh yeah,
you're just out for a free dinner. Blah blah blah.
He's twenty six. Oh okay, Oh I'm telling you. But
so Twitch does he have other than gamers? I have
heard and seen that too. However, someone decides to use it.
Money can be made using Twitch to paint a bigger picture.
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As of twenty twenty, the year twenty twenty, the platform
had a total of three point eight million broadcasters. And
you subscribe and you can make anywhere from four ninety
nine to twenty four ninety nine subscribing. Okay, kind of
like how Patreon. You know you pay for a subscription? Yeah,
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that you're following. Those are the price ranges, and fans
of the channel can also leave monetized tips for the
content creators of their choosing. So when Grant told his
family about his interest in starting his own Twitch channel,
his family was extremely supported and offered their help. His
brother Cody and his father Chad both lent him their
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credit cards so that he could buy whatever equipment he
needed to get his channel going. Sadly, Grant wasn't using
the platform in a way that could make enough money
to support himself. Those who are on the platform to
make money usually stream off to gain traction and a following,
and the live streams are relatively lengthy and full of
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substance to watch. Grant only live streamed once in a while,
and the live streams were usually too short for him
to gain any real footing. Needless to say, his channel
only had a few subscribers and he was only making
about one hundred and fifty dollars per month from his
subscribers and tips, So rather than putting in more effort,
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he pulled away. He got discouraged, and he completely gave
up on the idea. From then on, he spent most
of his days at home on the computer, browsing different
forums and various websites. While browsing the Internet during all
of his free time, he came across a web page
designed for webcam models cam girls, and he saw a
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girl that he immediately fell in love with. Her name
is Sylvia then Sislavova Bencislavova, Oh that's that's the sex
events Solova. Since he was so terribly unhappy with what
his life was at the point, Grant decided to make
a blize about his life to help get her attention. Sylvia,
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being in the pornography business, wanted his money, and Grant,
like many people before and after him, fell for the chap.
He would send her money just so that he could
get erotic private videos and personal life chats. This made
him feel so special since he didn't have any other
love interests in real life. He also wasn't looking out
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for anything since he spent so much time online. Grant
told her that he worked as a professional video gamer
on Twitch, and he told her that he had so
much money he didn't know what to do with it. Obviously,
Grant wasn't the only man in the world who was
obsessed with Sylvia. Obviously, I think Sylvia's got a following,
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I'm sure sure. But nonetheless, he sent her different types. Oh,
this is so romantic. He sent her different types of dildos, vibrators,
and other types of toys along with the lingerie so
that she could model them the next time she made
a video or went live. That's all to make the
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dream work, so fat old it. Grant was hooked on
the Bulgarian woman Sylvie. That's her webcaster name, of course,
and he spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars chatting with
her online in private chat rooms. One session alone paid
her hundreds of dollars. So, like anybody in this line
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of work, she kept him on the hook. Oh sure,
that's your bread and butter boy exactly. She knew exactly
what she was doing with Grant. Threw no fault of
her own. She did this for a living, and the
money was coming in hot. Meanwhile, Grant was living a
double life. In real life, he was unemployed and broke,
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but in his fantasy world online he was incredibly wealthy
gaming guru. He stopped it nothing to keep up the
facade with Sylvie, and whenever she would model one of
his many gifts, he saw nothing but pure joy on
her face. Rant took this pure joy from her videos
as mutual love and affection. How can you not?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, I am always surprised when I find like, oh,
you think.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
That stripper's in love with you? Or come on, come
on the.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Meth Hoh, horror is in love with your soul?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I bet yeah, I bet yeah, he paying her. See
what happens when you stop paying her? How much she
loves you?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I mean exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Girl's got a job. She's doing her job.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But come on, now, the job and you're not new here. Yeah,
but in reality, this was not her videos of showing
the mutual love an affection for him. It was her job,
and in order to continue making money from him, she
too had to keep up the facade since it's working
very well on him.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
More and more he spent on her, on her content,
and on her gifts, the more he felt the romance
was mutually reciprocated. Grant in time, believed that he and
Sylvie were soulmates and that nothing could stop the two
of them from being together forever. He was out of control.
His life was about to go off the rails. So,
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while still being unemployed, Grant spent over two hundred thousand
dollars on Sylvie's channel. Wow, two hundred thousand dollars. That's
my house, Tanya, Yeah, it's my dream house. But where
the hell did he get all this money?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Did he use the credit cards of his family?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh? Probably need more equipment for the twitch channel, you know,
anytime his family members would leave money lying around, Grant
would make it disappear into his own pocket. He wasn't
only taking pocket change. He stole over one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars from his parents, and he stole sixty
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thousand dollars from his brother Cody. When the money was
in Sylvie's pocket, he needed more and more money to
give to her. So what did he do. He stole
even more money from Cody by taking his guns and
selling them for quick cash.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh damn.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Those are huge flags of addiction. According to reports, he
even went as far as to take a mortgage out
on the family house worth sixty five thousand dollars. He
took all of this and he sent it to Sylvie,
who was over fifty six hundred miles away in the
Balkans of southeastern Europe. According to police, so at the
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very end of twenty eighteen, Margaret and Cody had actually
called the police to report Grant missing. They added in
that Grant was depressed and possibly suicidal after failing out
of graduate school. Now he had mentioned to both of
them his own feelings of self worthlessness, and he had
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left the house without saying a word to anyone, no
explanation whatsoever. After he had left the house, he sent
a text to Margaret saying that he was just quote
tired of dealing with everything unquote, and he was going
to handle these feelings as he saw fit. When his
mother called the police, she said that Grant had plenty
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of access to firearms, so she was absolutely convinced that
he was going to hurt himself in some way. And
at the time, this was really out of character for Grant. Chad,
his dad was more of an old school guy, so
when Grant got fired, there was some disappoint there. Margaret,
on the other hand, always met both of her sons,
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but especially Grant, with love and support. When the police
finally found him, his family sat down to have a
heart to heart conversation with him about his spending and
his sex edition. Within only a few months, Grant had
thrown at least two hundred thousand dollars Sylvie's way, and
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all of the money was stolen from his family. His father, Chad,
eventually found out about the stolen money, and when he
confronted Grant, he told him about Sylvie and said that
he gave all of the money to interact with her.
Via webcam and chat renals. His brother Cody then stepped
in to try to help his brother. He spent fifteen
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thousand dollars more to send Grant to a lavishly expensive
rehabilitation center that specialized in pornography addiction, and that's located
in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Huh, I had no idea, Yeah
me either. You can send somebody there for porn addiction. Nice,
you can go to rehab for porn addiction.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Who knew?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Who knew? I watched Doctor Phil and he's always sending
them to Tennessee or Texas for the getaway programs. I've
not heard of this one. So the sex addiction program
was sixty days long, but only after a few days
in Grant had enough and he left on his own
accord in January of twenty nineteen. Later, when police asked
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him why he left the program, he told them that
the staff at the rehabilitation center didn't think that he
genuinely had a sex addiction. Okay, yeah, oh, you don't
need to be here. You may leave.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, you can go.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Two hundred thousand dollars nothing, come back when it's half
a bill. According to him, the staff allegedly told him
that he didn't belong there.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I find that incredibly.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Makes me laugh harder. When he got back home, his father, Chad,
was frustrated and fuming, as any father would be after
dealing with this kind of bullshit stuff. You know, Like
I can see his frustration.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Oh yeah, his.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Father had to delay his own retirement and he keep
working to make enough money to pay off the debt
that Grant had so willfully cost. Now, Chad at that
point had to put his foot down because he was
so sick and tired of having to clean up after Grant.
So he gave his sylvie addicted son some ground rules
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and he had to follow them if he wanted to
keep living at the home with the rest of the family.
Not too much the ful dad.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, that's a great dad, because I'd be so fucking
mad if I had to continue working and couldn't retire
because my kid blew all my money.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh yeah, my retirement money enough to affect my retirement.
Oh my god. Grant was no longer allowed to have
access to a smartphone since he had worn out that privilege.
He was no longer allowed to have uncontrolled Internet access,
and he was absolutely forbidden to contact Sylvie again. He
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needed to get a job, and he needed to see
a therapist because obviously he wasn't doing well mentally. Without
having access to Sylvie, Grant fell into a depression since
his fantasy world had been shattered into a million little pieces. Unfortunately,
Grant had somehow convinced his mother, Margaret, to let him
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use her phone to get in contact with Sylvie, and
when Shad found out about this broken rule, he followed
through on his promise. He told Grant to get the
fuck out of their house. Grant was given a second
chance that not every parent would provide, and instead of
taking it seriously, he took advantage. I can't imagine how
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as dad felt after fighting out that Margaret let and
it's hard because you know how kids are, They're gonna work.
The one parent of the two, he like, what the
fuck Margaret, Margaret two hundred grand, We don't even know
if oh, well, Sylvie must be real. If she's yeah,
you know, there'd be proof in the pudding, that's true.
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Grant wasn't just unhappy about getting kicked out of the
family home and his safe haven. He was absolutely furious,
and on the very next day, he just took his
anger out on his father, out on everyone who lived
in the house in the most terrifying way. On January
twenty fourth, twenty nineteen, Grant walked into his parents' house
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and walked up to his mother while she was sitting
at her desk working. Her back was to him, and
he took out a gun and shot her right in
the back of her head, killing her almost instantly. Chad
wasn't home when his wife was shot and killed, so
Grant waited patiently in the house for him to get
home from work, and as soon as his father walked
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into the kitchen, Grant fired a shot and the bullet
struck Chad behind his ear. Unfortunately for Chad, this bullet
wound wasn't enough to kill him, so he was in
massive amounts of pain crawling along the kitchen floor just
trying to survive. Grant saw his father trying to crawl
to safety, but Grant wasn't going to let him get away,
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so he walked right up to him, stood over his father,
and shot him again to kill him. And next time
his hit list was his brother, Cody, but Cody wasn't home.
Using his father's lifeless body as a toolwol He was
able to unlock his father's iPhone with Chad's fingerprint, and
he sent a text to Cody to make it look
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like his father needed him home for something, so Cody
was lured to the house in only a few short hours,
but Cody had no clue what he was about to
walk into. As soon as Cody walked in through the
front door, Grant shot him directly in the face, killing
him immediately. He then put a gun into the holster
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and planted it on his dead brother's body so it
would look like Cody killed his own parents and then himself.
And it was later discovered that the gun placed on
Cody's body wasn't even the same gun used in the murders.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Really terrible.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Chad was fifty nine, Margaret was sixty one, and Cody
was thirty one when their lives were taken from them
by a twenty nine year old brat who just wanted
to talk all day to his online bulgarian girlfriend, a
twenty nine year old twenty fucking nine years old? Man,
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are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
It really, it is unbelievable. The following day, Chad didn't
sh for work, and his carrying coworkers called the police
to order a welfare check on the Amado home, and
when they were able to gain entry into the house,
they walked into a bloody massacre. The only one who
wasn't dead at the house was the youngest son, Grant,
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and where the how was he? Well? The police, who
had just determined him to be missing, found out what
kind of car he drove, and they were able to
track it through the various tolls he had gone through
to get to his destination, the Double Tree Hotel, located
in Orange County, Florida, so the police were able to
locate him around seven forty five in the morning, the
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same day that he annihilated his family. After police officers
discovered the dead bodies of Chad, Margaret, and Cody, their
automatic person of interest was Grant. Since he was the
only person completely unharmed from the way the victims had
been killed, authorities were able to determine rather quickly that
these killings weren't just some random person gunning down an
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entire family from inside their own home. After finding out
the year, make, model, and license plate number for Grant's car,
he was able to be found quickly. He was driving
a white nineteen ninety six Honda Accord, and before he
was found, the Seminole County Sheriff's office put out a
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bolo beyond the lookout with a picture of Grant's face.
In the press release, Grant was considered to be still
armed and very dangerous. After the police found Grant in
his registered hotel room, he was taken into custody for
questioning without putting up any sort of fight with the officers.
The interrogation started right off the bat, with Grant being
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asked what he liked to do for fun, and the
first thing he told detectives was he liked to watch anime.
He then said that his brother really got him into
that about three years prior. One of the detectives didn't
know what anime was, and Grant said, while laughing, it's
like Japanese cartoons. It's all adult based. He then told
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them he liked to play a lot of video games,
and his favorite at the time was a big game
all around the world. I'm sure we've heard it Fortnite.
Oh yeah, I've not played it, but I'm aware of
the word. He then told them about his failed Twitch
streaming fiasco, but then he got into his borrowed credit
cards to spend his family's money on the camgirl website.
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He started out by saying as embarrassing as this is,
she's a cam model. Yeah, it's embarrassing. As he went
on into how he started talking about Sylvie, Grant noticed
that the detectives were looking at him confused, so he
asked if either of them knew what a cam model was,
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and nope was the immediate answer. So Grant had to
explain what a cam models were to the detective. Is
so that everyone was on the same page. That was
really sweet. He said, it's basically a virtual girlfriend like
that time situation. Then okay, oh, leaving out chunks of
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information there.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
He then said that most of the money from the
credit cards went to her, and he mentioned that she
lived in Bulgaria. He explained that he would give her
money just to spend time with her, and throughout the
beginning of this interrogation, Grant did seem to be talking quickly,
but overall appeared to be calm. One detective asked Grant
how much she would charge and if the time was
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charged by the hour. Grant said that the time was
priced with Sylvia by the minute, and one minute would
cost ninety tokens through the website. Oh, I see, you
have to buy the money to them. Yeah, Now, these
tokens had to be purchased for Grant to be able
to talk to her for extended periods of time. He
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said that the cost would be about six hundred for
five thousand tokens. So six hundred dollars would get you
five thousand tokens.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
So he said that he would get online and talk
to her for about four hours a night. He talked
to her at a ninety tokens per minute, So to
talk to her at ninety tokens per minute, he would
need about twenty one thousand, six hundred tokens to talk
to her for four hours a day. Wow, that is
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a lot of tokens.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's a lot of fucking money, no wonder, he ran.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Up, and so, yeah, the cost of that twenty one
thousand tokens is two thousand, six hundred.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
So Grant met Sylvie online at the very beginning of
July twenty eighteen. When the detective asked where all of
this money was coming from, he said it would come
from me, my dad, and my brother. He said that
Chad and Cody had no idea that the money was
going towards his fantasy worlds and his virtual girlfriend, and
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he was telling them that the money was going towards
his Twitch streaming advertisements. Graham's ultimate goal was to become
a star on Twitch, and he thought he could do it.
He said, I'm really good at the games, and I'm
a really fucking funny person on camera. Wow, I'm really
good at games and I'm a really fucking funny person
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on camera at twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
These are two qualities, right, Yeah, that's why he's really
popular on Twitch. He's a little delusional, but he's very
He's not a little very delusional.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
He told the detectives that the amount of money he
had sent her over the time they chatted the two
hundredth grand, and he told him that his brother had
sent him to the rehabilitation center. As mentioned a bit earlier,
when the police asked him why he left so quickly
into the sixty d eight program, he said that after
meeting with the therapist and the psychiatrist, they told him
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that this was just an quote unquote isolated incident. So
you know, when you get the thumbs up from a
therapist and the counselors at a rehabilitation center. Day one.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
When he finally got home from the rehab center, it
was January fifth, twenty nineteen. Throughout this entire case, Grant
has maintained his innocence. At one point in the interrogation,
the crime scene photos were shown to Grant. He did
say that the day before the murders, he got into
a pretty bad argument with his dad, Chad, and that
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he had been kicked out of the house since he
couldn't leave Sylvia alone and kept on communicating with her
after his father threatened to throw him out. The fact
that Chad knew that he was no longer going to
be able to retire when he had hoped to due
to all the financial damage that Grant had caused his heartbreaking.
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Grant just didn't give a fuck about anyone but himself,
and this case shows exactly that. The list of rules
were specifically written out by Chad, and the list of
rules went for two pages because everyone was sick and
tired of his shit. The damage that he had caused
his family was insurmountable. At the end of the list
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of rules, Chad wrote quote you will not ever be
allowed back into the family living arrangement, and that he
could reside in shelters, homeless centers. I mean Dad's had.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Now, even with the serious of a threat, Grant said
fuck it, and he just kept doing the one thing
he was ever good at, seemed to be breaking the rules.
Grand thought that Sylvie was the love of his life,
so he resorted to communicating with her through Twitter and
used his mother's phone. Grant told the investigators that during
the argument with his dad, his brother came home and
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made his best attempt to calm everybody down. When they
asked about his brother's whereabouts the following day, the day
of the murders, he said that he left the house
before Cody got home. Obviously, he is a pathological liar,
which is why he tried to plant the gun on
dead body, trying to cover his own tracks. You lay
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the gun you killed your own brother with on your brother,
so it makes what a piece of shit.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I know.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
His story was always changing, and the investigators weren't buying
any of it. He just kept contradicting himself throughout the
entire interrogation. Grant said that his mother stayed out of
the argument because, quote, she kind of knew how Dad was.
He said that the last time he had any communication
with his family was the night before the murders. He
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said that it took him a couple of hours to
pack as much as he could into the before he
was finally able to get out of there. Grant said
that the last thing Cody said to him was I
will take care of it. When the detective asked what
Cody meant by that, Grant said, the situation that was
at hand. Oh, so he's trying to see he's saying, oh,
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my brother said she'll take care of it.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
They trying to place the brain on him.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, the peace made her brother is going to pull
out a piece. Yeah, that's how he's going to handle it.
So he did. He tried so hard to make his
father look as dangerous as possible, and of course, with
Chad being dead, there was no way that Chad could
contradict anything that Grant was telling the investigators. Grant said
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that he was so scared of his father, but he
never killed him.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
One detective then looked at him and said that he
could tell Grant was dying to tell them something that
he was holding back, and the detectives were able to
tell by his eyes and body language. Grant was told
that it was the perfect time to get whatever he
needed to tell them off of his chest. He was
sitting in what looked to be scrubs, and he said
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that he was just so worried about what was happening
because he was speaking to the detectives. The detectives then said,
you know what it is, meaning that Grant knew exactly
why he was there and was just playing dumb and clueless.
Grant said, I genuinely don't have anything else that I
can say. The detective said, I bet Grant, I have
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said that Grant supposedly knew that something bad had happened
at his house, but he had yet to ask what
happened and if everyone was okay. Grant then said that
he was just scared of what the police would have
told him if he did ask, and when he left
the house everyone was fine. A note was found at
some point in the investigation, and it looked to be
written by Cody to Grant around the time that he
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had left without saying a word to anyone. When he
was reported missing to the police, In the note, it said, Grant,
I'll take care of all your problems. I just need
you back. I can't live without you, brother. Wow. So
his brother writes him that note saying he'll work on
dad and mom to get him caught out because I
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can't live without you, brother. So that's the kind of
love that surrounding Grant.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
That he yeah, that he just threw all away.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Put bullets in now. The next part of the note said,
due to how everyone was killed, it's honestly hard to
believe that there was even a heated argument between any
of the family members. His mother was killed at her
desk as she was working from home, his father was
killed as soon as he stepped foot into the kitchen,
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and his brother was killed as soon as he entered
the home after Grant lured him there using their dad's
phone and his deceased father's finger to open up his
dis dees father's phone to lure his loving brother home. Right, oh,
just putting a picture out there. When the crime scene
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photos were shown to Grant, he was asked what happened
to each of his family members, and he started to
cry as the investigators asked him if he killed his
father in self defense. He just kept playing dumb as
he said that he had nothing to do with any
of the murders. Due to the absence of gunshot residue
being on any of his family member's hands, it was
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obvious that nobody who was killed had even fired a gun.
The detectives even had evidence on who died first, and
they knew the exact order when each victim was murdered.
Grant looked at them as they spoke, and he kept silent.
They then went into the video surveillance that they had
from the neighbors of the Amado family, and nobody ever
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came to the house after Cody got home. There were
only four people at the house when the murder place,
and Grant was the only person who could have done it.
With all of the evidence that they had against him,
an arrest warrant was obtained for Grant and he was
charged with three separate counts of first degree murder. The
warrant was obtained only four days after the killings. He
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pleaded not guilty but was held on seven hundred and
fifty thousand dollars bond. Although the murder weapon was never found,
the police had evidence of his phone data that showed
Grant was at the house at the time his family
members were killed. At one point, while he was being
held in police custody, the investigator set up a time
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for Grant's only remaining family members to sit down and
to talk to him to attempt to get any sort
of confession. When his half brother Jason walked into the
interrogation room, Grant smiled and the two embraced in a
long hug. Jason started the conversation by saying that he
assumed that Grant knew what had happened to their family member.
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Jason then asked if he had been involved in the murders,
to which he quickly said he wasn't. Jason's voice began
to shake with overwhelming emotion, and he said that he
wanted to believe that Grant could never do anything that heinus.
He then told Grant, but you're the only person that
I could put in that house. Jason, trying to get
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Grant to open up to him, told him that he
knew about everything that he had gone through over the
last six months and how hard he had struggled to
make something of himself. Jason then said that they literally
could not put the blame on anyone else and if
it wasn't Grant. He asked how they were going to
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find who killed their family?
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, who did it?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Grant said, I don't know, and I don't have any answers.
Jason then said that he loved Grant more than anything
in the world, just like he loved their dad, Jad, Margaret,
and Cody, and he said, I know Dad was an asshole,
and I know that Cody was an asshole, but they
were our family. They would have never done anything to
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hurt us. I'm sorry, I don't believe you. And he
said that whether Grant did it or not, he was
going to feel resentment for the rest of his life.
I need closure, he said, I need to know what
happened to my mother and my father and my brother Cody,
because I wasn't there to help. Grant watched as Jason
got even more emotional as he said that he was
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so hurt. He said, I may not have been able
to stop you, and you probably would have hurt me too,
but at least I would have known what had happened.
Jason felt completely helpless and was extremely frustrated at how
Grant just kept refusing to face the consequences. Of what
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he did to his family. Once Jason was done pouring
out his heart to Grant, he left the room. Next
to detect came in and asked if he had anything
else he wanted to say before he was let go.
The detective reiterated that he had been given every opportunity
to explain what happened in that house, but once he
walked out of the room, his doom was coming. Whether
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he liked it or not. He was done. Asked you
can live with yourself after not telling us the truth,
and Grant just got quiet, was all he had to say.
Everyone knows you fucking did it, Grant. It's just so cowardly,
all of the actions and here's the wrap up. Grant's
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trial began in July twenty nineteen, and the jury was
able to get a first hand look at his relationship
with his virtual girlfriend Sylvie. Pictures along with videos of her,
were shown to the jury during the testimony of the
Seminole County Sheriff's Office forensic investigator. This was the same
person who was in charge of processing all of the
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electronics out inside the home after the Amadol family was murdered.
Videos that Grant had sent Sylvie were presented to the
court and in one video, it is clearly seen as
he was walking outside of his house to check the mail.
In the video, Grant was pleading with her to send
him free videos. He said, I'm asking you if you can, please,
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pretty please send me one of your videos. I love
it so much when you just send it to me.
I don't like buying your stuff. It makes me feel weird. Oh,
this poor guy, I know.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Oh he felt so weird.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
He spent two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I'm uncomfortable. Can't you just send me free?
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
No, no, I can't because this is my job.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Bana. You want to know why it makes him feel
weird because she was never his girlfriend, and since she
was a keym girl, everyone who contacts her had to
go through the same thing. She's running the script on everybody.
Are you kidding me? They all had to spend money
on anything they wanted from her. Grant was just like
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every of her other customers, and he thought he was
special to her when he wasn't special at all. Dude.
The prosecution then showed six hundred and forty seven photos
of Sylvie to the court. Ye and the pictures showed
her in different periods of her removing clothes. These photos
also included a photo of the Christmas card that she
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had sent to him the year prior. On the Christmas card,
Sylvia is dressed in very sexy lingerie. She's wearing red
lipstick and a red pointed toe heels with her legs
crossed while sitting on the side of a claw foot bathtub.
There is a red lipstick mark as if to show
that she kissed the card before sending it, and in
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handwriting it read smile my light, you make me so happy.
She signed her name and dated the card December twenty eighteen,
a month later, He's killed his whole family. As all
of the pictures were shown to everyone present in the
courtroom that day, Grant just sat there staring at the
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TV screen as the woman of his dreams was exposed.
The prosecution had no problem making his relationship with Sylvie
his motive for murdering his family. His obsession based relationship
was put into a timeline along with all the various
amounts of money that he had stolen from his dad
and brother. While the friends that investigator was still on
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the stand. A thumb drive which was seized from the
house and placed into evidence, was spoken about and had
been connected with Grant's computer at eleven thirty two PM
on the night of the murders, after each family member
was killed. Not even ten minutes later, his brother's iPhone
was then connected to Grant's computer, and since this phone
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was never fully trusted on the computer, it was obvious
that the past code was not known for the trusting
process to be completed. So he's hooken up everybody's phones
to the computer. Yeah, whenever an iPhone is connected by
a USB, the computer or laptop will ask if the
device can be trusted, you know, when you hook up
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to the computer. At eleven forty two pm, the phone
was then placed into recovery mode. Grant was more likely
trying to completely wipe Cody's phone. During the cross examination,
Grant's defense team grilled the forensic investigator. They first asked
her if she had been at the house on the
night of the murders, to which she had said she wasn't.
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The defense then asked her if she knew for sure
who had plugged in the phone into Grant's computer, to
which she said no. The defents team then asked if
she was speculating about the person's intentions when the phone
was plugged into the computer, and she told the court
that her testimony was purely based on her many years
of experience. She was then asked if she was a
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mind reader, to which the prosecution objected. So it sounds
like they're being Dick's. You know, they have no case
to defend Grant, so that your mind reader, let's reduce
to name calling. Way to go now. Grant's brother, Jason
took the stand along with Cody's girlfriend. Both of them
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testified how Grant had stolen so much money to give
it to Sylvie. They both stated that this was what
caused so much tension between Grant and his family. Cody's
girlfriend even told police that Cody had told her that
he was scared that Grant was going to kill all
of them to stop them from harassing him.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
Oh that's why.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, little something gave him an inkling of that. The behavior,
it's so obsessive. Grant's defense team tried to make it
look like the analysis of the crime scene wasn't done
thoroughly enough, since no other suspects were even considered. This
was all because the door handles at the house, along
with the garage keypad wasn't analyzed for fingerprints or any
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other kind of DNA. The state of Florida did seek
the death penalty at trial, but even though Grant was
found guilty on all three counts, the jury wasn't able
to come up with the unanimous decision to have him
put to death. He was given life in prison without
possibility of pearl. Grant later said that the murder weapon
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was buried by him in one of his old school
friend's backyard. Leeds have never been able to locate the
weapon that he used, and he's currently rots at the
Okeechobee Correctional Facility in Florida, And good riddance piece.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
What a stupid reason to kill your family, Not that
there's a good reason again, but really it's an ass.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Are you getting me at the end of the day,
You're going to kill your family? Over kidding me? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:59):
They tried to help him brothers to rehab and they like, Wow,
I just I'm I'm always floored as to the reason
why these idiots do this stuff. It's just heartbreaking and
reminds me of a story we just did about Colleen Ritzer.
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
He was murdered by her student, yes, twenty eighteen, and
I love how her parents through the tragedy were like,
we want Colleen's name to leave a good legacy. And
that has really stuck with me since we had it.
It's like a legacy. I want to leave a good legacy. Yeah,
I leave a shit stained legacy, like shit stain who
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murdered her? This guy? No thanks? You know? Mm hmm
it's yes, that is the story. Grant is rotting currently
where he belongs. Shame that the death penalty could not
be reached for some of them related.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
His whole family, right exactly.
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