August 20, 2025 • 49 mins
For seven years, Malcolm Naden was Australia’s most wanted fugitive—a master of the bush who vanished into the wilderness after being accused of murder. As police closed in, Naden’s legend grew: a skilled survivalist who could disappear without a trace, living off the land while evading one of the largest manhunts in the nation’s history. In this episode,we track the incredible—and terrifying—pursuit of Malcolm Naden. From the brutal crimes that sent him on the run to the near-misses, shootouts, and the final dramatic capture, this is the story of a predator who thought he could outlast justice.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hi, I'm Shannon. Hi I'm Tanya, and we are Crimes
and Consequences, a hardcore true crime podcast. Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya.
How are you. I'm doing pretty good. How are you?
I'm doing quite well. I'm caught up on sleep and yeah,
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oh I didn't tell you, but I did switch. I'm
kind of switching out my style and of course I
would love to be in a lavender marriage for my
husband's style guidance, you know, which I have none. But
in the interim, so like I said, I've been up
and fluctuating with my weight. Gotta make a decision. Am
I going out the rest of the way pleasantly plump?
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Or am I gonna get my shit together? Come on,
fifty five double nickels. Let's quit fucking around, Shannon.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, So, while I'm deciding, I had found these swing
dresses like just these a line, simple cut, simple material
on Amazon. I love wearing a dress every day. This
is so nice. Now it is one of the excises,
but I'm okay with it. Guess what, I got great hair,
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and I'm gonna pick that for now. Girl.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I've been coasting on my hair for years.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Ooh girl, it's so good to have some good hair
like not. Don you know in my youth I was bleach,
black bleach, red bleach. So it does kind of shorten
up any kind of growing time for your hair if
you're always in a damaged state. And now that I
haven't done it in three years, I'm all like, I
felt like you when we went to a Planet fitness.
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You had that fucking lion's mane when you woke up.
My god, oh my god, you guys. Tanya has the
best hair, and she had really thick, long hair. And
when we were in our thirties and we'd go to
the gym and we'd sign in and the guy would
be like, he whispered to her nice hair, and she's all.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Like thanks, Like I had rolled out of bed. I
didn't put it up in a ponytail because it looked good, right,
it's so bad toussled and thick, and so when he
said something to me, I was like, invalidated the whole boy, if.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I didn't put it in a ponytail, that's right. I
left my scrunchy at home this morning. About you, how
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm doing pretty good. Just working, you know, working, working, getting.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Through the summer, these last couple of weeks before the
kids go back to school. Yeah, September's here, Labor Day,
all the good stuff. Put the white shoes away, I
got my checklist, I got my checklist of things to do.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I can't wear white after Labor Day. But yeah, no,
it's just same old, same old. Yeah, just chugging along.
I guess I'm just tired. I'm fucking tired all the time.
But oh girl, yes, I was thinking like maybe I
need to take vitamins. I don't know, maybe I need
like a vitamin task. Am I be twelve deficient?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Or right?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Am? I'm so tired?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But how should I use magnesium? Yeah? I curt all
the hubbub, But am I using it to relax or
to energize? You know?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. That's
why I don't take vitamins. I don't know. Maybe I should, honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. How Yeah, which, I got
a great store and it's out of Australia. Back at
the turn of the century, and I mean the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I'd like to nine hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes, that's right. But yeah, this is this is a
very good story. I of course few of us have
heard of it. It's because I know I haven't. It
was in Australia, Like I said, New South Wales, back
at the turn of the century, two thousand and five.
I'd like to invite everybody to go ahead and hit
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the stories that we bring every week from all over
the world. And I'm going to tell you this story
starts on Wednesday, June twenty second, two thousand and five,
in New South Wales, Australia, in the city of Double
people noticed a little girl wandering outside in the front
yard of a house located at two one five bungle
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Gumby Road. Fun name Bungle Gumby Buncle Gummy. The people
who found her didn't really look for the girl's mother
at the time, and her mother wasn't located until the
following day. Now, her mother, Christy Scoles, had been broodingly
murdered earlier that same year, in January, a woman named
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Letitia Nolan had gone missing, and after finding Christie Scoles,
the police constables had one common denominator between the murderer
and the missing person, Malcolm John Naden mm HM. On
the night that Letitia Nolan went missing, she was driving
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her nineteen ninety six dark blue Ford Falcon station Wagon.
She had her kids in toe and she was dropping
off the kids off at two one five Bungo Gumby
Road so that they could spend time with their great
grandparents Jack and Flow. And as she was walking up
to the path to the house, her cousin, Malcolm creepily
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stepped out of the darkness and asked her if she
could give him him a ride into town. Originally, she
was frightened by the dark figure that approached her, but
then she recognized it was her cousin, she felt at ease.
She had known Malcolm throughout her whole life, and she
knew about previous troubles that he had had gone through. Regardless,
Letitia still liked him and the two had always gotten along.
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She was raised by her mother, who wasn't too strict,
but on the other hand, Malcolm's father, Richard, was known
to be extremely strict, so given this, Letitia always felt
bad for him for how hard Richard always was on
Malcolm up to this point. Richard's favorite child was Malcolm's
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older brother, Jason. Jason and Richard were very similar in personalities,
so Letitia always thought that Malcolm really missed out on
a potential relationship with his father. Due to this, Malcolm's
father eventually threw him out of the house, so he
had no choice but to move in with Jack and Flo.
Latitia thought that nothing but good would come from this
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from moving in with his grandparents. Since the move, Letitia
really got used to seeing him at the house when
she would drop by for visits, and sometimes Malcolm would
drop by Letitia's house to do odd jobs around her
house and mower lawn stuff like that. Due to all
of the work he was doing to better himself, Letitia
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really thought that his luck was turning around now. This
opinion of her cousin would obviously change throughout the summer
night of January fourth, two thousand and five, after she
agreed to give Malcolm a ride into town. After Latitia
agreed to give him a ride, she told him to
wait a few minutes so that she could get her
young kids into the house. Malcolm watched as she opened
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the door, and then he hopped in the passenger side
of the station wagon and waited for her to come
back outside. As she walked in the house, her two
other children were already inside, and they were so happy
to see their mom and wanted nothing but her attention.
Letitia said that she needed to run to town for
a bit and when she got back, she and her
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children would all go back to their house. She handed
her infant baby off to her grandmother, and Malcolm was
getting impatient with how long she was taking to come
back outside, so he beat the horn a couple times to,
you know, get her to hurry up. When she heard
the horn, she quickly yelled that she had to run
and she'd be back in a couple minutes now. Letitia
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loved her car. Even though the car was eleven years old,
it was new to her and she loved driving her
friends and family around. You ever have a car, your
first car that you were to drive? My first car.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It was such a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What was it? Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Okay, so I started driving. It would have been like
nineteen eighty seven, right, Yeah. It was a nineteen seventy
eight Buick Regal nice was green. It was my dad's
old car, and he used to say it was the
color of money, right, you know, you know my dad, right, yes,
So it was like, it's a players car, it's a
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play and it's a buick. Come on.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I can already smell his cologne in the vehicle. But
it was such a piece.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
In Like the windshield it wasn't sealed properly and I
never got it fixed. So when it would rain, the
water would come in, and then the seats were clothed
and it would smell and it was just such.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It was.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, it was I would have to sit on garbage bags.
And I met my husband when I had this car,
and he had a light blue Ford Ltd.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I don't know if you remember that car. Yes, I did,
big giant boat.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I remember when we walked. We used to work at
Meyer together and that's how we met. And we walked
out the party lot and I was like, that's your car,
and then he saw mine and he's like he didn't
say it this way, but he was like, how fucking
with your car? Say something about my car?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh? Dare you?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean he didn't say by car pretty much, Yeah,
the awkward silence and pauses implied, is my car where
my questioning came from?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, that's so funny, like her eleven year old car.
I know, my first car was I got a license
in nineteen eighty six, so I drove my parents used car.
They're nineteen seventy six money Carlow nice eight boat. Oh
nice oo. I really liked that car. And then I
got a nineteen eighty one Ford exp which was the
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sporty Escort Ford and it was used and it was
kind of a piece of crap because sometimes and it
was a stick. So I remember one time my battery
died and this was when I found out that you
could push start a car. I feel like I've lived
through some history because I have had to run with
my vehicle and then pop the clutch.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So I don't know how to drive a stick.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh my gosh. They got to bring those back.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
May I never learned.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know, you just gotta drive everybody everywhere when you
love your car, And that's what Letitia did. So after
Malcolm's impatient beat, she jogged down the walkway admiring her car.
Then she shot a small smile at Malcolm before getting
into the driver's seat and starting her car, and as
she was starting her car, she asked Malcolm where he
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wanted to go and he just responded with a board
just going into town. And after he answered, Letitia put
her car in reverse and drove toward the highway. Letitia
Jane Nolan. She was born May twenty third, nineteen eighty,
which makes her a Gemini cusp. I believe, yeah, so
she's right on the first day or two of Gemini.
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To her parents, Mick Pete and Joan Nolan. Her parents'
love and affection was nothing short of complete and utter
adoration for Letitia as she grew into an intelligent and
sparkling young girl. She grew up in the outback of
New South Wales and her father always thought of his
daughter as his little girl, so he was strict in
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the way that he raised her. Other family members remember
her as being really funny and incredibly beautiful. Her aunt
remarked that she could have easily been a model. Her father, Mick,
eventually left Joan and Letitia to live near Bundenburg, located
in Queensland, and after he left, Joan tried to remain
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close by speaking on the phone on a regular basis.
Letitia and her mother became extremely close and her mother
helped her raise her four children, Kaisha, Jaden, Erica, and
infant Shakela. The children's father did not live with them
in Dubo, and he was always away with work, but
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on the rare chance that he was in town, Joan
would babysit the little one so that Letitia and her
man could have some alone time. Just mom doing your
grandma doing the grandma thing right. It's just real sweet.
On the morning of her disappearance, Joan saw her daughter
in town at a cafe, and Joan specifically noticed how
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happy and excited Letitia was about her future. She had
just bought her Ford Falcon, and she was so excited
to show it off to Joan when they saw each
other in town that day. She had bought the car
a few days earlier so that she could take her
two older children, Erica and Kaysha, to school. After showing
her car off, Letitia asked her mom for a few bucks.
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I love it. Look at my car? Can I get twenty?
I do love that. Joan gave her what she had
asked for, and the mother daughter duo made plans for
the following day to meet at Letitia's house. Letitia told
her mother that she needed to go over to her
grandparents' house to pick up Kayisha and Erica, and she
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also said that nan Aka Flow said that she could
leave the youngest with her for the night. While confirming
the plans for the following morning, Latitia said that she
would meet her mom at her house at ten thirty
in the morning after she picked up Shakela back from
Jack and FLOE's house. As the two were saying there goodbye,
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both Letitia and Joan were happy and smiling. Joan had
no idea that that was the last time she would
ever see her daughter. During the evening of January fourth,
as Letitia was first pulling up the driveway of her
grandparents' house, Kayisha and Erica had their toys packed up
and ready to go. As they saw their mother's headlights
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pulling in closer to the house, both of them were
so excited that their mom was finally coming to take
them home. While waiting for her mom's arrival into the house, Kayisha,
who had just finished her very first year of school,
was practice her alphabet and as we mentioned earlier, Letitia
came into the house to drop off the baby. She
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came back into the house, gave her a grandmother a kiss,
smiled at her grandfather, and placed the baby into the basinette.
Before Letitia left to drive Malcolm into town. She gave
Jaden instructions to be a good boy and to sit
on the couch as he waited for her to return
again to take them home. After flo picked up the baby,
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she was trying to quiet her small cries as Letitia
had a quick chat with her two older daughters. When
Malcolm beat the horn, Letitia ran towards the door and
asked Floe to watch the kids while she drove Malcolm
into town for a bit. Latitiha's last words to her
grandparents were back in a sec When the following morning
came around, Joan drove to her daughter's house around ten
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thirty am, just like they agreed the date at the cafe.
When Joan got to her house, she was not at
all surprised that Letitia wasn't home yet, since she always
had her hands full raising four small kids. Joan walked
into the house and called out for Letitia. The TV
was on pretty high from the corner of the family room,
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and all of the lights were on in the home.
At first, Joan thought that her daughter had just gotten
a little sidetracked after she picked up the little ones
from Flows earlier that morning. After some further inspection of
her daughter's home, Joan determined that her daughter hadn't been
at the house at all throughout the previous night. Joan
decided to call her mother, Flow and asked if Letitia
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was still at her house. Flow quickly told Joan that
Letitia never came back after she gave Malcolm a ride
into town earlier the previous night. Both Joan and Floe
thought that since this was so unlike Letitia, she simply
drove to go see her boyfriend and didn't call because
it had gotten so late. Joan noticed that Latitia's purse
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and cigarettes were still at her home, so then she
began to panic. Joan decided to drive into the town
of Dubbo to see if she could possibly find her
daughter that way. She knew that she could easily spot
the dark blue forward, so as Joan hit the road,
she began calling other family members to see if any
of them had seen her recently. When Joan didn't see
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her daughter's car at any of the shops Latitia frequented
Joan began to get the feeling that something serious had
happened to her. She drove to the police station to
report Letitia missing, but right before she got out of
the car, she sensed that she was probably overreacting, so
she opted to continue to call family members to see
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what they could possibly tell her about Letitia's whereabouts. When
Latitia never came home, later that day, Joan drove back
into the police station to report her daughter missing, even
though not even twenty four hours had gone by, the
police decided to send some officers out since she was
a mother to four small kids Aunt Tanya. Honestly, the
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fucking twenty four hour rule? Why is that is that
even around anymore? Should it be?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It really shouldn't because they always say, I mean, I
don't know if it's just a murder investigations, but isn't
like the first forty eight hours the most important? Like
after a cry.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing, forty eight.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Somebody has been kidnapped or disappears, or like, really, you're
gonna sit on it for twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Take it seriously, Come on now.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
No, I don't even know if that's a rule. Still,
I hope not. I hope not too. It's just when
I see it or come across and I'm like, oh well,
eye roll. Since the city of Dubo is the capital
of New South Wales and the population is about forty thousand,
the news of Latitia's disappearance spread like wildfire. As the
police were on the lookout for her car, the rest
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of her family was searching the local areas looking for
any signs of her. Oddly, when Joan reported her missing,
the Ford was already in the patrol rucker for that day,
so two detectives were sent to search the car to
look for anything that could have told them where Letitia was.
Earlier that day, a squad car pulled up behind the Ford,
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which was parked in the parking lot that was near
the Maccarie River. Two officers stepped out, looked into the car,
jotted the plate number down, and went on with their patrol.
This specific location where the car was found was known
to be a common site for stolen cars to be ditched,
but since the car was in such good condition, the
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officers originally thought that the Ford had been parked there
while the owners walked his or her dog along the river.
Since that was extremely common as well. When the car
was expected for a second time after Letitia had been
reported missing, the first thing noted was that the car
was parked really close to a footbridge. This would allow
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the driver to park the car and get to the
other side of town without really being seen, especially if
parked there at night. The officers inspected the parking lot
and found nothing of use, but since this was a
missing person's investigation, a forensic team was needed to take
a closer look. Since Letitia had only gotten the car recently,
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there wasn't much evidence that anyone had even driven the car.
When the forensic team reported that not a single fingerprint
had been found, the police realized that the car was
wiped completely clean after it had been parked there. The
New South Wales Police decided to hand the case over
to the homicide squad. The first people to interview were
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Jack and Flow, who told them that Letitia had stopped
by to drop off the younger kids before saying that
she was heading into town. Neither of them knew exactly
where in town Latitia was headed. When Jack was asked
who else lived in the house, Jack told the homicide
detective that Malcolm sometimes lived there, but neither him nor
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Flow had seen him in a few days. A few
months prior to Letitia disappearing, Malcolm had been connected to
a rape of a fifteen year old girl in Dubo,
but Malcolm had not been proven guilty and stayed out
of trouble since nobody ever really knew where Malcolm was
at any given time. Whenever he wasn't home, he was
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at work or chilling out in the woods. Now, after
the Ford was found, the case went cold. Police dogs
were sent out into the woods to pick up any
type of scent, but nothing ever came of it. A
few leads came in, but nothing ever came from them,
and the only person that the police had yet to
speak with was Malcolm, who nobody had seen or heard
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from since the disappearance. According to many of the records
of missing person reports similar to Letitia's, quite often the
police find that the missing person had been living some
sort of double life, but nothing of the sort was
found in Letitia's life or file. She worshiped her chill
dren and she would never have let them to go
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on without her. Even though the case went cold, it
was treated as suspicious and the case would pick back
up again in only five months time. In the Australian
winter month of June two thousand and five, Christie Skulls
was staying at Jack and Flow's home while her kids
were asleep in one of the back bedrooms. Christie's home
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was being painted and she didn't want her kids exposed
to the potential fumes from the fresh paint. Christie's husband, Reg,
was in Sydney studying for a few days along with
Reg's grandparents, Jack and Flow, but they were in Sydney
so that Jack could have an operation on his heart.
Since Latitia had disappeared, she knew how much the Nolan
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family had been suffering since, and she really felt for
them as an in law. Jack, who was up there
in age, was suffering from some heart problems that seemed
to only get worse after the disappearance in January. He
needed to get an emergency triple bypass done on his heart,
and he was rushed to Sydney in order to get
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that done. Since Jack's health had sunken lower than it
already was, Flow had been dealing with a lot too,
and Christy's heart broke to see them both in such
a bad way. Mentally, and physically. While Christy was in
the house just looking for some quiet time to watch TV.
She was making a pot of tea when she was
startled by a dark figure that was standing in the
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dark corner of her kitchen. She then looked a little
closer and noticed that the figure was none other than
her husband's cousin, Malcolm Naden. Christy greeted him and offered
him a cup of hot tea while smiling at him
she was making one for herself. He shrugged while nodding
his nasty head, so Christy made him one. Christy at
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the time was staying at Jack and FLOE's house since
their house neighboring to Jack and Floe, was being painted,
so it wasn't as weird seeing Malcolm since she knew
that he was staying with them. Nonetheless, Christy knew some
of Malcolm's troubled past, and she was always a bit
nervous around him because she always thought that something was
a bit off about him. So Ever, since Latitia disappeared,
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Malcolm became even weirder and quieter than he already was. Jack,
who had always defended Malcolm, was pissed at a lot
of people in the community, because they suspected that he
had something to do with Latitia's disappearance. The rest of
the family told her that she shouldn't feel uneasy, but
she felt a certain type of way regardless of what
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she was told, and for a damn good reason. Even
though she and her family lived right next door, Christy
rarely even spoke to Malcolm, and when they would go
over to Jack and Flows to visit, Malcolm was always
locked inside of his bedroom. On top of everything else,
Regg had told Christy that on multiple occasions he had
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seen Malcolm climbing outside his own bedroom window. She was
right in her feelings Malcolm was weird and extremely dangerous.
She handed Malcolm a cup of tea and walked out
into the living room to continue watching her late night
TV shows, and when she looked back at Malcolm, she
jumped out of her skin, not realizing that he had
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followed her out of the kitchen and across the living room.
She tried to keep her composure as she asked him
if he wanted to watch TV with her, and as
he was standing over her, she felt really scared. Malcolm
had been working at the local slaughterhouse and his job
was to strip the flesh from carcasses. Oh lovely, yes,
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so I'm feeling I'm fucking sweating too, right, it's dark
eye want his tea and now this weirdo is back
at the house. So needless to say, he was strong,
especially in his hands and arms. And as he was
standing over Christy, Malcolm wrapped his hands around Christy's throat
and he strangled her to death. And as he was
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she let out a yelp. As she was trying to scream.
Her children were in the next room. So while everyone
was away, I know that motherfucker. Yeah, you're killing the
kid's mother, and it's just I don't want to hear it.
While everyone was away in Sydney, Malcolm knew that he
could just bring Christy's body into his bedroom. He laid
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her body right next to his bed, went back into
the living room to grab Christie's cup of tea, which
was still hot, poured it down the drain, and drank
the cup that she had made for him. Not five
minutes earlier, one of Christy's kids made some sound from
the next room, so Malcolm made his way over to
the bedroom, cracked the door open just enough to peer in,
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saw that one child was asleep in the smaller bed
and the other was asleep in the crib located in
the middle of the bedroom, and he went about his business.
He went back into the kitchen to finish his tea,
and then he went to the sink to wash both
cups while making sure that he had wiped down the
entire sin and kitchen chairs. Malcolm then went back to
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his bedroom and slid Christie's body all of the way
underneath his bed. He placed bibles around her body, and
he put pillows in front of his bed to better
conceal the body. He knew that Christy would be home
alone with the kids that night. The only reason he
knew that was because he crept out of his bedroom
window two nights prior to listen in on Reg and
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Christie's conversation. He heard Reg tell Christy that he was
leaving to go to Sydney and he wouldn't be back
until the weekend. He then heard that Christy and the
kids would be staying at Jack and Flows while their
house was being painted. On the night he murdered her,
Malcolm crept onto the roof and peered into the house
as he watched Christie feed and put her kids to
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bed for the night. He had been waiting for the
moment to kill her, and he knew the right time
to do it. When he knew that Christy was all alone,
he creepily came out of his bedroom and made his
way into the kitchen as she was making the tea.
Malcolm had a plan for his next steps, and let
me tell you, they're crazy. Once Christie's body right, yeah,
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heads up and be prepared. Once Christie's body was tucked
away and concealed enough for his leiki, he made sure
that his bedroom door was completely secure before he would
make his escape. It was still early enough in the
night and the neighbors were still out and about, so
he looked out his bedroom window to make sure that
nobody was watching him. He had already packed a bag
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hours earlier, so he slinked out of his bedroom window,
bag in hand, and before he fled, he turned back
to put a nail into the lock before he made
his way to the front of the house. He was
heading for the Western Plains Zoo. Now we'll go back
to where we started with the little girl wandering around
the front yard of Jack and FLOE's place on Saturday
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June twenty fifth, two thousand and five, a relative of
Nolan's lived a few houses down. When the man Ian
Walker looked out of his window, he saw his niece
wandering aimlessly around the front yard. And even though this
wasn't unusual, Christy had been seen with the children for
a few days, and that was the most alarming thing.
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And since these children had been without their mama, the
little girl, Libby, was looking a little rough. When Ian
asked Libby where her mama was, Libby shrugged her shoulders.
Ian then called into the house from the outside to
see if Christy would come outside. With no sign of Christy,
Ian tried to get into the house through the front door,
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but it was locked. Libby had slid open one of
the windows in the living room to get outside, so
when Ian saw that, he knew that he would be
able to get in that way. Ian was respectful as
he entered through the house, but still with no word
from Christy. He wandered to where the children were sleeping
and found the baby screaming his head off from his crib.
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Neither child had eaten since their mother last fed them,
and since Christy had been murdered, the baby boy's diaper
hadn't been changed. Ian looked through the entire house to
search for Christy, and he had access to all of
them except for one, Malcolm's locked room, which was doubling
as Christie's temporary grave. Ian fed and washed up both
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of Christie's children, and when they were happy again, he
began calling other people to see if they knew where
Christy was. Everything had already felt so wrong to Ian,
since her purse and cell phone were still in the house,
and Christie's phone showed missed calls from Redge for the
last couple of days. Ian called Redge and told him
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to come home right away. Even with an army of
relatives looking for Christy, nobody could locate her, so the
police were called. Since the house was locked up with
what they thought nobody inside, the only thing that could
be done at the time was file a missing person report.
After the report came through, a search warrant was obtained
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to search the Bungalgumbie Road residence since there had already
been a disappearance associated with the home. The house was
searched on Sunday and there were no signs of anything amiss,
but they walked up to Malcolm's locked bedroom door. An
officer opened the door and the slight smell of decomposition
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smacked them right in the face. Once the detectives smelled that,
they knew that they were looking for a corpse. When
they removed the pillows from the front of the bed,
they found Christy right where Malcolm had stashed her before
running for the outback. The same homicide detectives who were
handling Letitia's disappearance came back to Debo to handle Christy's
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murder investigation. The homicide detective went back to the house
to scour Malcolm's room for anything that could give a
meeting behind the murder. Malcolm's family members said that although
he was withdrawn from society, he was harmless. Uh huh.
Lease discovered many different copies of Bibles and highlighted sections
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out of wilderness crime and survival guide books. The detectives
also found really disturbing sketches that he had drawn, and
these told the detectives that he was a psychopath who
was willing to kill again. Well I'm not sure what
he drew, but that's quite an analysis from drawings. Yes,
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psychopath and willing to kill again, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's some wild shit.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yes, probably some murder scenes. The details of these drawings
have not been released. The detectives noticed that his windowsill
had been worn out, since he often used that to
leave and enter the house rather than the front door.
Malcolm had also torn out a piece of ceiling and
this was how he got into the roof that night
to watch Christie. He watched his family through the vents
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of the house. What a creep this is so weird
it is The police got a glimpse in a malcolm
secret life as they searched his bedroom. News of the
murdered twenty four year old mother had spread, just like
the news of missing twenty four year old mother just
months earlier. The police were under massive amounts of pressure
and they needed to give the public some results sooner
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rather than later. This then set into motion the longest
man hunt in Australian history. A picture of Malcolm was
released to the public and a task force was put
together with a combination of wilderness experts and veteran detectives. Originally,
only a very specific areas were searched, since these were
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the initial places the investigators thought he would be hiding out.
But when they still hadn't located Malcolm. Weeks later, they
knew that they needed to widen their search exponentially. As
the police were searching for him, calls were coming in
with people saying that they had seen Malcolm and parts
of New South Wales and specifically in the western Plains.
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Each time someone and said that they saw him, a
search team went out to investigate the area, but nothing
came up. After two months had gone by, a press
conference was held was pleased to the public to help
provide any information that could lead to his capture. In
the meantime, Jack and Flow had come back from Sydney,
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but they were not made aware of Christie's murder and
the man hunt for Malcolm until the police pressured the
family to tell them the truth. After Jack and Flow
were told what had happened, Flow's health took a turn
for the worse and she was never well again. Jack
blatantly refused to believe that his grandson had murdered his
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cousin's wife, even when presented with evidence to prove that
he did. Jack eventually came to his own conclusion that
Malcolm was murdered with Christy and that the police were
actually chasing a completely different psychopath, wilderness crime and Bible
expert in South Wales. Yeah, at least two. So. On
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the other hand, Latitia's father, who had not lost hope
in finding her, had no doubt that Malcolm was responsible
for everything that had happened so far. Letitia's father prayed
that after the police caught Malcolm, he would come clean
and tell where Letitia was. He made this heart shattering
statement to a reporter quote, my heart stops every time
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the phone rings. I wake up during the night in
a sweat, and I've been losing my hair from stress.
Sometimes I sit at my computer until the sun comes up,
thinking of things I could do to try and find her. Unquote.
He made himself readily available to any media outlets who
wanted to talk to him, but of course this never
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sat well with the Nolan family or the police. With
each statement he made, the police were under more and
more pressure. In December of two thousand and five began
to come in as people were coming across the carcasses
of kangaroos whose meat had been ripped off of them
like they would have been at a slaughterhouse. I told it,
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it's a clue. This told investigators that since he worked
at a slaughterhouse before, and ripping the meat from bones
had been his job, he had to be the one
doing this to the kangaroos. Since these remains had been
found out in the wilderness of the outback, the search
went on, but little did they know, Malcolm had made
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himself at home at the Western Plains Zoo, which is
only an eight minute drive down the road from the
Bungogumbee Road. Residence. Workers at the zoo had been finding
clues that someone had been living on the roofs of
cabins on the grounds, and that there was even more
evidence that someone had been hunting on the grounds. On
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December twenty first, a staff member at the zoo spotted
what looked like and in true and they called the police.
Even with all this information, nobody had seen Malcolm, but
the task force needed to search the zoo regardless for evidence.
Later that day, the police were called to the scene
to search the roof of one of the cabins, and
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after fingerprints came back as a positive ID for Malcolm,
it was confirmed that he had been living there. And
just as a side note, I looked up the cabins
at the zoo and they are pretty luxurious visitors. You
can pay to stay in the cabins that run adjacent
to the zoo grounds, and the guests are free to
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come and go as they please under a reservation. And
it looks really cool without Malcolm hiding on the roofs
rightously fucking weirdo.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
The investigators told the staff and current guests that the
zoo was going to be closed for the following day
and reservations for the cabins for the following day were canceled.
Of course, the guests were pissed and they spent the
rest of the day at the zoo joking about a
lion escaping. The same people found out after the media
ran the story that Australia's most wanted human had been
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living there while they and their families were touring the
zoo grounds. That would be unsettling, to say the little bit.
The following day, the entire task force, which included men
dressed in wilderness camel gear and helicopters, flooded the area
where Malcolm was last known to be. This zoo is
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roughly seven hundred and forty one acres big and was
once used as a World War two military base at
the time, over a thousand animals inhabited the zoo, and
these animals came from five different continents. Dogs were set
out to see if they could catch a hint of
a cent, but even after combing the entire premises, they
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came up empty. Again. Malcolm was gone. While Malcolm was
literally ghosting everyone, Jack's health was getting worse and due
to this, many of Malcolm's family members were making please
online with him to come home. One relative named Jeanette
Lancaster took to the website Missingperson register dot com and
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in her post, she said, quote, Malcolm, if you read
this message or someone tells you about this message, the
family needs to hear from you. Pop is very ill
and he needs to know how you are and hear
your side of the story. In regard to Christy, Pop
won't get better until he knows what's going on. End quote.
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She went on to say that Flow had been literally
worried sick, and that the family was pleading with him
to come back home. Jeannette also mentioned how Malcolm's mother,
along with everyone else, wanted him to turn himself over
to the police. This was getting so out of hand
eventually from all of the stress, and heartbreak Flow passed
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away and after that Jack never recovered which his father
had gone into the same website and he updated it
with every article written about her disappearance, and in a
post he said, quote, I go on Google Earth and
I look at the towns and areas where he's been
sighted end quote, and ended with that he was desperate
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for answers on his daughter's whereabouts. The crazy thing about
this entire case was how Malcolm managed to evade the
police for seven years. At the time of his capture,
there was a bounty on his head for two hundred
and fifty thousand Australian dollars, which is two hundred and
sixty US, and this was the biggest man hunt since
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the nineteenth century. While he was living in the zoo,
he stole bananas from the elephants and he snuck into
tortoise enclosures. Once inside, Malcolm ripped off their heads and
he ate the meat that was in the turtles head
and bodies. A staff member later said that Malcolm was
seen running from the tortoise enclosure. While he was living
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on top of the cabin at the zoo. He would
sneak down at night and use the on site grills
that just needed a few coins to be fired out. Ok,
this dude's got balls, he does. You know, he's just
like grills. I'm gonna use the grills. That's the thought
that came in his head. They know he's there. Like,
why isn't there like patrol? Well, yeah, and I get
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it's two thousands. Sometimes you forget like two thousand and five.
Back then, like two thousand. Now we have more heat
seeking stuff, we have drones.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Like, how come there weren't more policemen more presenting it? Right?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yes, exactly, I don't know. Seven years, seven years in
the wilderness this guy lived. Since Malcolm was out in
the wilderness for so long, it was impossible for police
dogs to find or pick up a cent. He broke
into people's houses, and when the homeowners called the police,
the fingerprints came back as matches. The prints he left
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behind were able to help guide the police to the
town of Gloucester, but unfortunately, when the police came close,
Malcolm used a stolen semi automatic gun to shoot the
officer who came the closest to catching him. He was
watching the officers through the scope on the rifle and
when they got too close, he decided to pull the trigger.
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Officers came across a campsite and tried to raid, but
the fugitive was ready for them, and luckily the officer
who was shot survived after having a bullet blow clear
through his shoulder. Before this raid and shooting, the bounty
was at one hundred thousand Australian dollars and after this
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it was raised to the two hundred and fifty thousand.
So by March of twenty twelve, the police had not
given up, and they got smarter with their tactics. They
were able to rig up concealed cameras that were able
to track his position, and at midnight on March twenty second,
twenty twelve, Malcolm was finally captured. And let me tell you,
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he looked like complete and utter shit. He was thirty
eight at the time of his capture and by the
looks of him, he hadn't had a shower, a shave,
clean clothes for years, and fuck him, he didn't deserve it.
On March twenty second, twenty thirteen, malcompleted guilty to the
murders of both Letitia Nolan and Christy Skulls. While in custody,
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he told the detectives that without a doubt, he would
definitely kill again. Along with that, he also pleaded guilty
to the attempted murder of a police officer, breaking and entering,
and for sexually assaulting the fifteen year old girl that
was mentioned earlier in the episode. In total, he pleaded
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guilty to eighteen charges. Wow. The sad but not surprising
thing about Malcolm was that he confessed by writing a
twenty five page long letter, and in the letter he
said some very disturbing things. He wrote about how he
felt nothing for him victims. Quote I would like to
say I feel something for the victims, but that would
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be a lie. End quote. He also made notes to
the readers of his letters saying, quote, avoid violence, especially killing.
You will never be the same again. End quote. He
said that the murders were enlightening for him. He said
that he knew how the victims felt and that something
broke inside of him after murdering them. His reason behind
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the murders is completely baffling. He said that he killed
Letitia due to her gossiping. Really, yes, so she's a
gossip your cousin. This is say whatever you want, you know,
there's nothing so apparently her gossiping, he went into a rage,
and he was never someone who showed any sort of emotion,
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but when he murdered her, she didn't see it coming.
After he murdered her, Letitia, he said that he just
sat and looked at her body for a long time.
Quote I have never seen a body so relaxed. She
crossed from life to death in an instant. Life shone
through her trusting eyes, and now nothing, She was just
gone en quote Sadly. He said that he woke up
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the following morning and heard Letitia's kids playing as if
nothing had happened. Later in the confession, Malcolm spoke about
how he broke Letitia's back and then went into detail
about cutting her body into pieces. Her body has never
been found. This letter was made public so everyone in
her family heard it, including her father. While talking about
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Christie's death, he showed some serious heartlessness. He wrote about
treating her quote like a life size dollote. He said
that he killed her for no reason whatsoever. His family
members have stated that they cannot and will not ever
forgive Malcolm for what he did, and while in prison,
Malcolm's second cousin even took it upon himself to beat
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him bloody since he was incarcerated inside the same prison.
I thank you, cousin. Dean Nolan used the handle of
a sandwich toaster to bash him in the prison courtyard
at Goldburn's Correctional Facility. After all the terrible things that
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he put the victims and their families and the community
and the police through, Malcolm Nayden is now serving life
in prison without the possibility of parole. Wow. So that
is some violence in Australia. Yeah, like the senselessness of murders.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
It's just I don't know. Yeah, We've talked about it
a few times where it's just it's just sad because
I wonder what went wrong like in his life that
made him that way, you know, like didn't you go wrong?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (46:51):
You know the whole nature nurture thing, Like was he
just born like that? Like okay, it sounded like he
was a massive weirdo.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah right, So I don't know. That's just really sad.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Feel bad for that family, her kids, Laiah, my.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Goodness, I guess her.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Children, her you know, their children, and it's just really
really sad.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You know, it's frustrating when like the great grandfather, the
grandfather Jack. You're you're presented. You don't have to like
the facts that you're being presented, but you have to
be in this plane of existence to accept them. So
we can you know, Oh, I don't believe he killed
that girl then, yeah, because then you'd have to believe
he killed your granddaughter too, right, you know, And I
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think we know, I think we know how kids are,
especially your own kids, you know, like Grandpa didn't know
he was a weirdo, thank you and just always having
us back. I don't believe that, and to me, that's toxic.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah. I don't know why people can't be honest with themselves, like, okay,
fucking weird and yeah, while I didn't think he could
kill somebody, he did.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah. They don't want to be honest because they're monsters,
and then they have to base their mom sternness.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Oh but yes, that is the story. Back to turn
to the century. Winters in New Southwest Australia.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yes, yeah, winters are are summers.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Because I know what I was like, that's right, the
equator flippy thing.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I can't imagine celebrating Christmas in the summer, but me either,
It would be crazy but well, thank you, Shanna, my pleasure,
my dear, thank you everyone for listening to this week's episode.
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Hi, I'm Shannon. Hi I'm Tanya, and we are Crimes
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How are you. I'm doing pretty good. How are you?
I'm doing quite well. I'm caught up on sleep and yeah,
(00:56):
oh I didn't tell you, but I did switch. I'm
kind of switching out my style and of course I
would love to be in a lavender marriage for my
husband's style guidance, you know, which I have none. But
in the interim, so like I said, I've been up
and fluctuating with my weight. Gotta make a decision. Am
I going out the rest of the way pleasantly plump?
(01:19):
Or am I gonna get my shit together? Come on,
fifty five double nickels. Let's quit fucking around, Shannon.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, So, while I'm deciding, I had found these swing
dresses like just these a line, simple cut, simple material
on Amazon. I love wearing a dress every day. This
is so nice. Now it is one of the excises,
but I'm okay with it. Guess what, I got great hair,
(01:47):
and I'm gonna pick that for now. Girl.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I've been coasting on my hair for years.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Ooh girl, it's so good to have some good hair
like not. Don you know in my youth I was bleach,
black bleach, red bleach. So it does kind of shorten
up any kind of growing time for your hair if
you're always in a damaged state. And now that I
haven't done it in three years, I'm all like, I
felt like you when we went to a Planet fitness.
(02:17):
You had that fucking lion's mane when you woke up.
My god, oh my god, you guys. Tanya has the
best hair, and she had really thick, long hair. And
when we were in our thirties and we'd go to
the gym and we'd sign in and the guy would
be like, he whispered to her nice hair, and she's all.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Like thanks, Like I had rolled out of bed. I
didn't put it up in a ponytail because it looked good, right,
it's so bad toussled and thick, and so when he
said something to me, I was like, invalidated the whole boy, if.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I didn't put it in a ponytail, that's right. I
left my scrunchy at home this morning. About you, how
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm doing pretty good. Just working, you know, working, working, getting.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Through the summer, these last couple of weeks before the
kids go back to school. Yeah, September's here, Labor Day,
all the good stuff. Put the white shoes away, I
got my checklist, I got my checklist of things to do.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I can't wear white after Labor Day. But yeah, no,
it's just same old, same old. Yeah, just chugging along.
I guess I'm just tired. I'm fucking tired all the time.
But oh girl, yes, I was thinking like maybe I
need to take vitamins. I don't know, maybe I need
like a vitamin task. Am I be twelve deficient?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Or right?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Am? I'm so tired?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But how should I use magnesium? Yeah? I curt all
the hubbub, But am I using it to relax or
to energize? You know?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. That's
why I don't take vitamins. I don't know. Maybe I should, honestly.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. How Yeah, which, I got
a great store and it's out of Australia. Back at
the turn of the century, and I mean the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I'd like to nine hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes, that's right. But yeah, this is this is a
very good story. I of course few of us have
heard of it. It's because I know I haven't. It
was in Australia, Like I said, New South Wales, back
at the turn of the century, two thousand and five.
I'd like to invite everybody to go ahead and hit
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the stories that we bring every week from all over
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starts on Wednesday, June twenty second, two thousand and five,
in New South Wales, Australia, in the city of Double
people noticed a little girl wandering outside in the front
yard of a house located at two one five bungle
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Gumby Road. Fun name Bungle Gumby Buncle Gummy. The people
who found her didn't really look for the girl's mother
at the time, and her mother wasn't located until the
following day. Now, her mother, Christy Scoles, had been broodingly
murdered earlier that same year, in January, a woman named
(05:15):
Letitia Nolan had gone missing, and after finding Christie Scoles,
the police constables had one common denominator between the murderer
and the missing person, Malcolm John Naden mm HM. On
the night that Letitia Nolan went missing, she was driving
(05:36):
her nineteen ninety six dark blue Ford Falcon station Wagon.
She had her kids in toe and she was dropping
off the kids off at two one five Bungo Gumby
Road so that they could spend time with their great
grandparents Jack and Flow. And as she was walking up
to the path to the house, her cousin, Malcolm creepily
(05:56):
stepped out of the darkness and asked her if she
could give him him a ride into town. Originally, she
was frightened by the dark figure that approached her, but
then she recognized it was her cousin, she felt at ease.
She had known Malcolm throughout her whole life, and she
knew about previous troubles that he had had gone through. Regardless,
Letitia still liked him and the two had always gotten along.
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She was raised by her mother, who wasn't too strict,
but on the other hand, Malcolm's father, Richard, was known
to be extremely strict, so given this, Letitia always felt
bad for him for how hard Richard always was on
Malcolm up to this point. Richard's favorite child was Malcolm's
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older brother, Jason. Jason and Richard were very similar in personalities,
so Letitia always thought that Malcolm really missed out on
a potential relationship with his father. Due to this, Malcolm's
father eventually threw him out of the house, so he
had no choice but to move in with Jack and Flo.
Latitia thought that nothing but good would come from this
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from moving in with his grandparents. Since the move, Letitia
really got used to seeing him at the house when
she would drop by for visits, and sometimes Malcolm would
drop by Letitia's house to do odd jobs around her
house and mower lawn stuff like that. Due to all
of the work he was doing to better himself, Letitia
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really thought that his luck was turning around now. This
opinion of her cousin would obviously change throughout the summer
night of January fourth, two thousand and five, after she
agreed to give Malcolm a ride into town. After Latitia
agreed to give him a ride, she told him to
wait a few minutes so that she could get her
young kids into the house. Malcolm watched as she opened
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the door, and then he hopped in the passenger side
of the station wagon and waited for her to come
back outside. As she walked in the house, her two
other children were already inside, and they were so happy
to see their mom and wanted nothing but her attention.
Letitia said that she needed to run to town for
a bit and when she got back, she and her
(08:08):
children would all go back to their house. She handed
her infant baby off to her grandmother, and Malcolm was
getting impatient with how long she was taking to come
back outside, so he beat the horn a couple times to,
you know, get her to hurry up. When she heard
the horn, she quickly yelled that she had to run
and she'd be back in a couple minutes now. Letitia
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loved her car. Even though the car was eleven years old,
it was new to her and she loved driving her
friends and family around. You ever have a car, your
first car that you were to drive? My first car.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
It was such a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What was it? Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Okay, so I started driving. It would have been like
nineteen eighty seven, right, Yeah. It was a nineteen seventy
eight Buick Regal nice was green. It was my dad's
old car, and he used to say it was the
color of money, right, you know, you know my dad, right, yes,
So it was like, it's a players car, it's a
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play and it's a buick. Come on.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I can already smell his cologne in the vehicle. But
it was such a piece.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
In Like the windshield it wasn't sealed properly and I
never got it fixed. So when it would rain, the
water would come in, and then the seats were clothed
and it would smell and it was just such.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It was.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, it was I would have to sit on garbage bags.
And I met my husband when I had this car,
and he had a light blue Ford Ltd.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I don't know if you remember that car. Yes, I did,
big giant boat.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I remember when we walked. We used to work at
Meyer together and that's how we met. And we walked
out the party lot and I was like, that's your car,
and then he saw mine and he's like he didn't
say it this way, but he was like, how fucking
with your car? Say something about my car?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh? Dare you?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean he didn't say by car pretty much, Yeah,
the awkward silence and pauses implied, is my car where
my questioning came from?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, that's so funny, like her eleven year old car.
I know, my first car was I got a license
in nineteen eighty six, so I drove my parents used car.
They're nineteen seventy six money Carlow nice eight boat. Oh
nice oo. I really liked that car. And then I
got a nineteen eighty one Ford exp which was the
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sporty Escort Ford and it was used and it was
kind of a piece of crap because sometimes and it
was a stick. So I remember one time my battery
died and this was when I found out that you
could push start a car. I feel like I've lived
through some history because I have had to run with
my vehicle and then pop the clutch.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So I don't know how to drive a stick.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh my gosh. They got to bring those back.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
May I never learned.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know, you just gotta drive everybody everywhere when you
love your car, And that's what Letitia did. So after
Malcolm's impatient beat, she jogged down the walkway admiring her car.
Then she shot a small smile at Malcolm before getting
into the driver's seat and starting her car, and as
she was starting her car, she asked Malcolm where he
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wanted to go and he just responded with a board
just going into town. And after he answered, Letitia put
her car in reverse and drove toward the highway. Letitia
Jane Nolan. She was born May twenty third, nineteen eighty,
which makes her a Gemini cusp. I believe, yeah, so
she's right on the first day or two of Gemini.
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To her parents, Mick Pete and Joan Nolan. Her parents'
love and affection was nothing short of complete and utter
adoration for Letitia as she grew into an intelligent and
sparkling young girl. She grew up in the outback of
New South Wales and her father always thought of his
daughter as his little girl, so he was strict in
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the way that he raised her. Other family members remember
her as being really funny and incredibly beautiful. Her aunt
remarked that she could have easily been a model. Her father, Mick,
eventually left Joan and Letitia to live near Bundenburg, located
in Queensland, and after he left, Joan tried to remain
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close by speaking on the phone on a regular basis.
Letitia and her mother became extremely close and her mother
helped her raise her four children, Kaisha, Jaden, Erica, and
infant Shakela. The children's father did not live with them
in Dubo, and he was always away with work, but
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on the rare chance that he was in town, Joan
would babysit the little one so that Letitia and her
man could have some alone time. Just mom doing your
grandma doing the grandma thing right. It's just real sweet.
On the morning of her disappearance, Joan saw her daughter
in town at a cafe, and Joan specifically noticed how
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happy and excited Letitia was about her future. She had
just bought her Ford Falcon, and she was so excited
to show it off to Joan when they saw each
other in town that day. She had bought the car
a few days earlier so that she could take her
two older children, Erica and Kaysha, to school. After showing
her car off, Letitia asked her mom for a few bucks.
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I love it. Look at my car? Can I get twenty?
I do love that. Joan gave her what she had
asked for, and the mother daughter duo made plans for
the following day to meet at Letitia's house. Letitia told
her mother that she needed to go over to her
grandparents' house to pick up Kayisha and Erica, and she
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also said that nan Aka Flow said that she could
leave the youngest with her for the night. While confirming
the plans for the following morning, Latitia said that she
would meet her mom at her house at ten thirty
in the morning after she picked up Shakela back from
Jack and FLOE's house. As the two were saying there goodbye,
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both Letitia and Joan were happy and smiling. Joan had
no idea that that was the last time she would
ever see her daughter. During the evening of January fourth,
as Letitia was first pulling up the driveway of her
grandparents' house, Kayisha and Erica had their toys packed up
and ready to go. As they saw their mother's headlights
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pulling in closer to the house, both of them were
so excited that their mom was finally coming to take
them home. While waiting for her mom's arrival into the house, Kayisha,
who had just finished her very first year of school,
was practice her alphabet and as we mentioned earlier, Letitia
came into the house to drop off the baby. She
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came back into the house, gave her a grandmother a kiss,
smiled at her grandfather, and placed the baby into the basinette.
Before Letitia left to drive Malcolm into town. She gave
Jaden instructions to be a good boy and to sit
on the couch as he waited for her to return
again to take them home. After flo picked up the baby,
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she was trying to quiet her small cries as Letitia
had a quick chat with her two older daughters. When
Malcolm beat the horn, Letitia ran towards the door and
asked Floe to watch the kids while she drove Malcolm
into town for a bit. Latitiha's last words to her
grandparents were back in a sec When the following morning
came around, Joan drove to her daughter's house around ten
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thirty am, just like they agreed the date at the cafe.
When Joan got to her house, she was not at
all surprised that Letitia wasn't home yet, since she always
had her hands full raising four small kids. Joan walked
into the house and called out for Letitia. The TV
was on pretty high from the corner of the family room,
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and all of the lights were on in the home.
At first, Joan thought that her daughter had just gotten
a little sidetracked after she picked up the little ones
from Flows earlier that morning. After some further inspection of
her daughter's home, Joan determined that her daughter hadn't been
at the house at all throughout the previous night. Joan
decided to call her mother, Flow and asked if Letitia
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was still at her house. Flow quickly told Joan that
Letitia never came back after she gave Malcolm a ride
into town earlier the previous night. Both Joan and Floe
thought that since this was so unlike Letitia, she simply
drove to go see her boyfriend and didn't call because
it had gotten so late. Joan noticed that Latitia's purse
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and cigarettes were still at her home, so then she
began to panic. Joan decided to drive into the town
of Dubbo to see if she could possibly find her
daughter that way. She knew that she could easily spot
the dark blue forward, so as Joan hit the road,
she began calling other family members to see if any
of them had seen her recently. When Joan didn't see
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her daughter's car at any of the shops Latitia frequented
Joan began to get the feeling that something serious had
happened to her. She drove to the police station to
report Letitia missing, but right before she got out of
the car, she sensed that she was probably overreacting, so
she opted to continue to call family members to see
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what they could possibly tell her about Letitia's whereabouts. When
Latitia never came home, later that day, Joan drove back
into the police station to report her daughter missing, even
though not even twenty four hours had gone by, the
police decided to send some officers out since she was
a mother to four small kids Aunt Tanya. Honestly, the
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fucking twenty four hour rule? Why is that is that
even around anymore? Should it be?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It really shouldn't because they always say, I mean, I
don't know if it's just a murder investigations, but isn't
like the first forty eight hours the most important? Like
after a cry.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing, forty eight.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Somebody has been kidnapped or disappears, or like, really, you're
gonna sit on it for twenty four hours?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Take it seriously, Come on now.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
No, I don't even know if that's a rule. Still,
I hope not. I hope not too. It's just when
I see it or come across and I'm like, oh well,
eye roll. Since the city of Dubo is the capital
of New South Wales and the population is about forty thousand,
the news of Latitia's disappearance spread like wildfire. As the
police were on the lookout for her car, the rest
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of her family was searching the local areas looking for
any signs of her. Oddly, when Joan reported her missing,
the Ford was already in the patrol rucker for that day,
so two detectives were sent to search the car to
look for anything that could have told them where Letitia was.
Earlier that day, a squad car pulled up behind the Ford,
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which was parked in the parking lot that was near
the Maccarie River. Two officers stepped out, looked into the car,
jotted the plate number down, and went on with their patrol.
This specific location where the car was found was known
to be a common site for stolen cars to be ditched,
but since the car was in such good condition, the
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officers originally thought that the Ford had been parked there
while the owners walked his or her dog along the river.
Since that was extremely common as well. When the car
was expected for a second time after Letitia had been
reported missing, the first thing noted was that the car
was parked really close to a footbridge. This would allow
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the driver to park the car and get to the
other side of town without really being seen, especially if
parked there at night. The officers inspected the parking lot
and found nothing of use, but since this was a
missing person's investigation, a forensic team was needed to take
a closer look. Since Letitia had only gotten the car recently,
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there wasn't much evidence that anyone had even driven the car.
When the forensic team reported that not a single fingerprint
had been found, the police realized that the car was
wiped completely clean after it had been parked there. The
New South Wales Police decided to hand the case over
to the homicide squad. The first people to interview were
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Jack and Flow, who told them that Letitia had stopped
by to drop off the younger kids before saying that
she was heading into town. Neither of them knew exactly
where in town Latitia was headed. When Jack was asked
who else lived in the house, Jack told the homicide
detective that Malcolm sometimes lived there, but neither him nor
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Flow had seen him in a few days. A few
months prior to Letitia disappearing, Malcolm had been connected to
a rape of a fifteen year old girl in Dubo,
but Malcolm had not been proven guilty and stayed out
of trouble since nobody ever really knew where Malcolm was
at any given time. Whenever he wasn't home, he was
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at work or chilling out in the woods. Now, after
the Ford was found, the case went cold. Police dogs
were sent out into the woods to pick up any
type of scent, but nothing ever came of it. A
few leads came in, but nothing ever came from them,
and the only person that the police had yet to
speak with was Malcolm, who nobody had seen or heard
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from since the disappearance. According to many of the records
of missing person reports similar to Letitia's, quite often the
police find that the missing person had been living some
sort of double life, but nothing of the sort was
found in Letitia's life or file. She worshiped her chill
dren and she would never have let them to go
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on without her. Even though the case went cold, it
was treated as suspicious and the case would pick back
up again in only five months time. In the Australian
winter month of June two thousand and five, Christie Skulls
was staying at Jack and Flow's home while her kids
were asleep in one of the back bedrooms. Christie's home
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was being painted and she didn't want her kids exposed
to the potential fumes from the fresh paint. Christie's husband, Reg,
was in Sydney studying for a few days along with
Reg's grandparents, Jack and Flow, but they were in Sydney
so that Jack could have an operation on his heart.
Since Latitia had disappeared, she knew how much the Nolan
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family had been suffering since, and she really felt for
them as an in law. Jack, who was up there
in age, was suffering from some heart problems that seemed
to only get worse after the disappearance in January. He
needed to get an emergency triple bypass done on his heart,
and he was rushed to Sydney in order to get
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that done. Since Jack's health had sunken lower than it
already was, Flow had been dealing with a lot too,
and Christy's heart broke to see them both in such
a bad way. Mentally, and physically. While Christy was in
the house just looking for some quiet time to watch TV.
She was making a pot of tea when she was
startled by a dark figure that was standing in the
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dark corner of her kitchen. She then looked a little
closer and noticed that the figure was none other than
her husband's cousin, Malcolm Naden. Christy greeted him and offered
him a cup of hot tea while smiling at him
she was making one for herself. He shrugged while nodding
his nasty head, so Christy made him one. Christy at
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the time was staying at Jack and FLOE's house since
their house neighboring to Jack and Floe, was being painted,
so it wasn't as weird seeing Malcolm since she knew
that he was staying with them. Nonetheless, Christy knew some
of Malcolm's troubled past, and she was always a bit
nervous around him because she always thought that something was
a bit off about him. So Ever, since Latitia disappeared,
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Malcolm became even weirder and quieter than he already was. Jack,
who had always defended Malcolm, was pissed at a lot
of people in the community, because they suspected that he
had something to do with Latitia's disappearance. The rest of
the family told her that she shouldn't feel uneasy, but
she felt a certain type of way regardless of what
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she was told, and for a damn good reason. Even
though she and her family lived right next door, Christy
rarely even spoke to Malcolm, and when they would go
over to Jack and Flows to visit, Malcolm was always
locked inside of his bedroom. On top of everything else,
Regg had told Christy that on multiple occasions he had
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seen Malcolm climbing outside his own bedroom window. She was
right in her feelings Malcolm was weird and extremely dangerous.
She handed Malcolm a cup of tea and walked out
into the living room to continue watching her late night
TV shows, and when she looked back at Malcolm, she
jumped out of her skin, not realizing that he had
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followed her out of the kitchen and across the living room.
She tried to keep her composure as she asked him
if he wanted to watch TV with her, and as
he was standing over her, she felt really scared. Malcolm
had been working at the local slaughterhouse and his job
was to strip the flesh from carcasses. Oh lovely, yes,
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so I'm feeling I'm fucking sweating too, right, it's dark
eye want his tea and now this weirdo is back
at the house. So needless to say, he was strong,
especially in his hands and arms. And as he was
standing over Christy, Malcolm wrapped his hands around Christy's throat
and he strangled her to death. And as he was
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she let out a yelp. As she was trying to scream.
Her children were in the next room. So while everyone
was away, I know that motherfucker. Yeah, you're killing the
kid's mother, and it's just I don't want to hear it.
While everyone was away in Sydney, Malcolm knew that he
could just bring Christy's body into his bedroom. He laid
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her body right next to his bed, went back into
the living room to grab Christie's cup of tea, which
was still hot, poured it down the drain, and drank
the cup that she had made for him. Not five
minutes earlier, one of Christy's kids made some sound from
the next room, so Malcolm made his way over to
the bedroom, cracked the door open just enough to peer in,
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saw that one child was asleep in the smaller bed
and the other was asleep in the crib located in
the middle of the bedroom, and he went about his business.
He went back into the kitchen to finish his tea,
and then he went to the sink to wash both
cups while making sure that he had wiped down the
entire sin and kitchen chairs. Malcolm then went back to
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his bedroom and slid Christie's body all of the way
underneath his bed. He placed bibles around her body, and
he put pillows in front of his bed to better
conceal the body. He knew that Christy would be home
alone with the kids that night. The only reason he
knew that was because he crept out of his bedroom
window two nights prior to listen in on Reg and
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Christie's conversation. He heard Reg tell Christy that he was
leaving to go to Sydney and he wouldn't be back
until the weekend. He then heard that Christy and the
kids would be staying at Jack and Flows while their
house was being painted. On the night he murdered her,
Malcolm crept onto the roof and peered into the house
as he watched Christie feed and put her kids to
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bed for the night. He had been waiting for the
moment to kill her, and he knew the right time
to do it. When he knew that Christy was all alone,
he creepily came out of his bedroom and made his
way into the kitchen as she was making the tea.
Malcolm had a plan for his next steps, and let
me tell you, they're crazy. Once Christie's body right, yeah,
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heads up and be prepared. Once Christie's body was tucked
away and concealed enough for his leiki, he made sure
that his bedroom door was completely secure before he would
make his escape. It was still early enough in the
night and the neighbors were still out and about, so
he looked out his bedroom window to make sure that
nobody was watching him. He had already packed a bag
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hours earlier, so he slinked out of his bedroom window,
bag in hand, and before he fled, he turned back
to put a nail into the lock before he made
his way to the front of the house. He was
heading for the Western Plains Zoo. Now we'll go back
to where we started with the little girl wandering around
the front yard of Jack and FLOE's place on Saturday
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June twenty fifth, two thousand and five, a relative of
Nolan's lived a few houses down. When the man Ian
Walker looked out of his window, he saw his niece
wandering aimlessly around the front yard. And even though this
wasn't unusual, Christy had been seen with the children for
a few days, and that was the most alarming thing.
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And since these children had been without their mama, the
little girl, Libby, was looking a little rough. When Ian
asked Libby where her mama was, Libby shrugged her shoulders.
Ian then called into the house from the outside to
see if Christy would come outside. With no sign of Christy,
Ian tried to get into the house through the front door,
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but it was locked. Libby had slid open one of
the windows in the living room to get outside, so
when Ian saw that, he knew that he would be
able to get in that way. Ian was respectful as
he entered through the house, but still with no word
from Christy. He wandered to where the children were sleeping
and found the baby screaming his head off from his crib.
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Neither child had eaten since their mother last fed them,
and since Christy had been murdered, the baby boy's diaper
hadn't been changed. Ian looked through the entire house to
search for Christy, and he had access to all of
them except for one, Malcolm's locked room, which was doubling
as Christie's temporary grave. Ian fed and washed up both
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of Christie's children, and when they were happy again, he
began calling other people to see if they knew where
Christy was. Everything had already felt so wrong to Ian,
since her purse and cell phone were still in the house,
and Christie's phone showed missed calls from Redge for the
last couple of days. Ian called Redge and told him
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to come home right away. Even with an army of
relatives looking for Christy, nobody could locate her, so the
police were called. Since the house was locked up with
what they thought nobody inside, the only thing that could
be done at the time was file a missing person report.
After the report came through, a search warrant was obtained
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to search the Bungalgumbie Road residence since there had already
been a disappearance associated with the home. The house was
searched on Sunday and there were no signs of anything amiss,
but they walked up to Malcolm's locked bedroom door. An
officer opened the door and the slight smell of decomposition
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smacked them right in the face. Once the detectives smelled that,
they knew that they were looking for a corpse. When
they removed the pillows from the front of the bed,
they found Christy right where Malcolm had stashed her before
running for the outback. The same homicide detectives who were
handling Letitia's disappearance came back to Debo to handle Christy's
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murder investigation. The homicide detective went back to the house
to scour Malcolm's room for anything that could give a
meeting behind the murder. Malcolm's family members said that although
he was withdrawn from society, he was harmless. Uh huh.
Lease discovered many different copies of Bibles and highlighted sections
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out of wilderness crime and survival guide books. The detectives
also found really disturbing sketches that he had drawn, and
these told the detectives that he was a psychopath who
was willing to kill again. Well I'm not sure what
he drew, but that's quite an analysis from drawings. Yes,
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psychopath and willing to kill again, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's some wild shit.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yes, probably some murder scenes. The details of these drawings
have not been released. The detectives noticed that his windowsill
had been worn out, since he often used that to
leave and enter the house rather than the front door.
Malcolm had also torn out a piece of ceiling and
this was how he got into the roof that night
to watch Christie. He watched his family through the vents
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of the house. What a creep this is so weird
it is The police got a glimpse in a malcolm
secret life as they searched his bedroom. News of the
murdered twenty four year old mother had spread, just like
the news of missing twenty four year old mother just
months earlier. The police were under massive amounts of pressure
and they needed to give the public some results sooner
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rather than later. This then set into motion the longest
man hunt in Australian history. A picture of Malcolm was
released to the public and a task force was put
together with a combination of wilderness experts and veteran detectives. Originally,
only a very specific areas were searched, since these were
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the initial places the investigators thought he would be hiding out.
But when they still hadn't located Malcolm. Weeks later, they
knew that they needed to widen their search exponentially. As
the police were searching for him, calls were coming in
with people saying that they had seen Malcolm and parts
of New South Wales and specifically in the western Plains.
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Each time someone and said that they saw him, a
search team went out to investigate the area, but nothing
came up. After two months had gone by, a press
conference was held was pleased to the public to help
provide any information that could lead to his capture. In
the meantime, Jack and Flow had come back from Sydney,
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but they were not made aware of Christie's murder and
the man hunt for Malcolm until the police pressured the
family to tell them the truth. After Jack and Flow
were told what had happened, Flow's health took a turn
for the worse and she was never well again. Jack
blatantly refused to believe that his grandson had murdered his
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cousin's wife, even when presented with evidence to prove that
he did. Jack eventually came to his own conclusion that
Malcolm was murdered with Christy and that the police were
actually chasing a completely different psychopath, wilderness crime and Bible
expert in South Wales. Yeah, at least two. So. On
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the other hand, Latitia's father, who had not lost hope
in finding her, had no doubt that Malcolm was responsible
for everything that had happened so far. Letitia's father prayed
that after the police caught Malcolm, he would come clean
and tell where Letitia was. He made this heart shattering
statement to a reporter quote, my heart stops every time
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the phone rings. I wake up during the night in
a sweat, and I've been losing my hair from stress.
Sometimes I sit at my computer until the sun comes up,
thinking of things I could do to try and find her. Unquote.
He made himself readily available to any media outlets who
wanted to talk to him, but of course this never
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sat well with the Nolan family or the police. With
each statement he made, the police were under more and
more pressure. In December of two thousand and five began
to come in as people were coming across the carcasses
of kangaroos whose meat had been ripped off of them
like they would have been at a slaughterhouse. I told it,
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it's a clue. This told investigators that since he worked
at a slaughterhouse before, and ripping the meat from bones
had been his job, he had to be the one
doing this to the kangaroos. Since these remains had been
found out in the wilderness of the outback, the search
went on, but little did they know, Malcolm had made
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himself at home at the Western Plains Zoo, which is
only an eight minute drive down the road from the
Bungogumbee Road. Residence. Workers at the zoo had been finding
clues that someone had been living on the roofs of
cabins on the grounds, and that there was even more
evidence that someone had been hunting on the grounds. On
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December twenty first, a staff member at the zoo spotted
what looked like and in true and they called the police.
Even with all this information, nobody had seen Malcolm, but
the task force needed to search the zoo regardless for evidence.
Later that day, the police were called to the scene
to search the roof of one of the cabins, and
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after fingerprints came back as a positive ID for Malcolm,
it was confirmed that he had been living there. And
just as a side note, I looked up the cabins
at the zoo and they are pretty luxurious visitors. You
can pay to stay in the cabins that run adjacent
to the zoo grounds, and the guests are free to
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come and go as they please under a reservation. And
it looks really cool without Malcolm hiding on the roofs
rightously fucking weirdo.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
The investigators told the staff and current guests that the
zoo was going to be closed for the following day
and reservations for the cabins for the following day were canceled.
Of course, the guests were pissed and they spent the
rest of the day at the zoo joking about a
lion escaping. The same people found out after the media
ran the story that Australia's most wanted human had been
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living there while they and their families were touring the
zoo grounds. That would be unsettling, to say the little bit.
The following day, the entire task force, which included men
dressed in wilderness camel gear and helicopters, flooded the area
where Malcolm was last known to be. This zoo is
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roughly seven hundred and forty one acres big and was
once used as a World War two military base at
the time, over a thousand animals inhabited the zoo, and
these animals came from five different continents. Dogs were set
out to see if they could catch a hint of
a cent, but even after combing the entire premises, they
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came up empty. Again. Malcolm was gone. While Malcolm was
literally ghosting everyone, Jack's health was getting worse and due
to this, many of Malcolm's family members were making please
online with him to come home. One relative named Jeanette
Lancaster took to the website Missingperson register dot com and
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in her post, she said, quote, Malcolm, if you read
this message or someone tells you about this message, the
family needs to hear from you. Pop is very ill
and he needs to know how you are and hear
your side of the story. In regard to Christy, Pop
won't get better until he knows what's going on. End quote.
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She went on to say that Flow had been literally
worried sick, and that the family was pleading with him
to come back home. Jeannette also mentioned how Malcolm's mother,
along with everyone else, wanted him to turn himself over
to the police. This was getting so out of hand
eventually from all of the stress, and heartbreak Flow passed
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away and after that Jack never recovered which his father
had gone into the same website and he updated it
with every article written about her disappearance, and in a
post he said, quote, I go on Google Earth and
I look at the towns and areas where he's been
sighted end quote, and ended with that he was desperate
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for answers on his daughter's whereabouts. The crazy thing about
this entire case was how Malcolm managed to evade the
police for seven years. At the time of his capture,
there was a bounty on his head for two hundred
and fifty thousand Australian dollars, which is two hundred and
sixty US, and this was the biggest man hunt since
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the nineteenth century. While he was living in the zoo,
he stole bananas from the elephants and he snuck into
tortoise enclosures. Once inside, Malcolm ripped off their heads and
he ate the meat that was in the turtles head
and bodies. A staff member later said that Malcolm was
seen running from the tortoise enclosure. While he was living
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on top of the cabin at the zoo. He would
sneak down at night and use the on site grills
that just needed a few coins to be fired out. Ok,
this dude's got balls, he does. You know, he's just
like grills. I'm gonna use the grills. That's the thought
that came in his head. They know he's there. Like,
why isn't there like patrol? Well, yeah, and I get
(41:24):
it's two thousands. Sometimes you forget like two thousand and five.
Back then, like two thousand. Now we have more heat
seeking stuff, we have drones.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Like, how come there weren't more policemen more presenting it? Right?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yes, exactly, I don't know. Seven years, seven years in
the wilderness this guy lived. Since Malcolm was out in
the wilderness for so long, it was impossible for police
dogs to find or pick up a cent. He broke
into people's houses, and when the homeowners called the police,
the fingerprints came back as matches. The prints he left
(41:58):
behind were able to help guide the police to the
town of Gloucester, but unfortunately, when the police came close,
Malcolm used a stolen semi automatic gun to shoot the
officer who came the closest to catching him. He was
watching the officers through the scope on the rifle and
when they got too close, he decided to pull the trigger.
(42:20):
Officers came across a campsite and tried to raid, but
the fugitive was ready for them, and luckily the officer
who was shot survived after having a bullet blow clear
through his shoulder. Before this raid and shooting, the bounty
was at one hundred thousand Australian dollars and after this
(42:41):
it was raised to the two hundred and fifty thousand.
So by March of twenty twelve, the police had not
given up, and they got smarter with their tactics. They
were able to rig up concealed cameras that were able
to track his position, and at midnight on March twenty second,
twenty twelve, Malcolm was finally captured. And let me tell you,
(43:02):
he looked like complete and utter shit. He was thirty
eight at the time of his capture and by the
looks of him, he hadn't had a shower, a shave,
clean clothes for years, and fuck him, he didn't deserve it.
On March twenty second, twenty thirteen, malcompleted guilty to the
murders of both Letitia Nolan and Christy Skulls. While in custody,
(43:24):
he told the detectives that without a doubt, he would
definitely kill again. Along with that, he also pleaded guilty
to the attempted murder of a police officer, breaking and entering,
and for sexually assaulting the fifteen year old girl that
was mentioned earlier in the episode. In total, he pleaded
(43:44):
guilty to eighteen charges. Wow. The sad but not surprising
thing about Malcolm was that he confessed by writing a
twenty five page long letter, and in the letter he
said some very disturbing things. He wrote about how he
felt nothing for him victims. Quote I would like to
say I feel something for the victims, but that would
(44:05):
be a lie. End quote. He also made notes to
the readers of his letters saying, quote, avoid violence, especially killing.
You will never be the same again. End quote. He
said that the murders were enlightening for him. He said
that he knew how the victims felt and that something
broke inside of him after murdering them. His reason behind
(44:27):
the murders is completely baffling. He said that he killed
Letitia due to her gossiping. Really, yes, so she's a
gossip your cousin. This is say whatever you want, you know,
there's nothing so apparently her gossiping, he went into a rage,
and he was never someone who showed any sort of emotion,
(44:48):
but when he murdered her, she didn't see it coming.
After he murdered her, Letitia, he said that he just
sat and looked at her body for a long time.
Quote I have never seen a body so relaxed. She
crossed from life to death in an instant. Life shone
through her trusting eyes, and now nothing, She was just
gone en quote Sadly. He said that he woke up
(45:11):
the following morning and heard Letitia's kids playing as if
nothing had happened. Later in the confession, Malcolm spoke about
how he broke Letitia's back and then went into detail
about cutting her body into pieces. Her body has never
been found. This letter was made public so everyone in
her family heard it, including her father. While talking about
(45:33):
Christie's death, he showed some serious heartlessness. He wrote about
treating her quote like a life size dollote. He said
that he killed her for no reason whatsoever. His family
members have stated that they cannot and will not ever
forgive Malcolm for what he did, and while in prison,
Malcolm's second cousin even took it upon himself to beat
(45:56):
him bloody since he was incarcerated inside the same prison.
I thank you, cousin. Dean Nolan used the handle of
a sandwich toaster to bash him in the prison courtyard
at Goldburn's Correctional Facility. After all the terrible things that
(46:16):
he put the victims and their families and the community
and the police through, Malcolm Nayden is now serving life
in prison without the possibility of parole. Wow. So that
is some violence in Australia. Yeah, like the senselessness of murders.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
It's just I don't know. Yeah, We've talked about it
a few times where it's just it's just sad because
I wonder what went wrong like in his life that
made him that way, you know, like didn't you go wrong?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (46:51):
You know the whole nature nurture thing, Like was he
just born like that? Like okay, it sounded like he
was a massive weirdo.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah right, So I don't know. That's just really sad.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Feel bad for that family, her kids, Laiah, my.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Goodness, I guess her.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Children, her you know, their children, and it's just really
really sad.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
You know, it's frustrating when like the great grandfather, the
grandfather Jack. You're you're presented. You don't have to like
the facts that you're being presented, but you have to
be in this plane of existence to accept them. So
we can you know, Oh, I don't believe he killed
that girl then, yeah, because then you'd have to believe
he killed your granddaughter too, right, you know, And I
(47:33):
think we know, I think we know how kids are,
especially your own kids, you know, like Grandpa didn't know
he was a weirdo, thank you and just always having
us back. I don't believe that, and to me, that's toxic.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah. I don't know why people can't be honest with themselves, like, okay,
fucking weird and yeah, while I didn't think he could
kill somebody, he did.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah. They don't want to be honest because they're monsters,
and then they have to base their mom sternness.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Oh but yes, that is the story. Back to turn
to the century. Winters in New Southwest Australia.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yes, yeah, winters are are summers.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Because I know what I was like, that's right, the
equator flippy thing.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
I can't imagine celebrating Christmas in the summer, but me either,
It would be crazy but well, thank you, Shanna, my pleasure,
my dear, thank you everyone for listening to this week's episode.
We appreciate it. So I would just like to thank
everyone for listening to this week's episode, and if you
haven't already, please hit the subscribe or follow button on
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Speaker 2 (49:00):
I was like, oh the business.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Oh, you can also sign up on ample podcasts.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's the same episodes.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
On Patreon, so sorry about that. So anyway, well until
our next episode, my friend
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Until next time, my friend, I'll see you, love you,
bye bye
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