Afi Ese on "BIPOC on Colonialism, Nationalism, and [the harmful illusion of] White Supremacy"

Conversation with African American contemporary realist, and figurative conceptual artist Afi Ese about using art to tell stories, group economics as a form of activism in marginalized groups, her former experience as a forensic psychologist and how we use research about inequity in place of action against inequity in our justice system (and many other places), a different way to look at reparations, the inherent problem with the term "BIPOC", Ese's thoughts on 2020 for art and artists, and how we can have more honest conversations across differences.