October 16, 2024 • 67 mins
This episode starts off hot with Chantal going off on a bird-feeding neighbor. [1:14] Then in Today I Learned the sisters react to the news of McDonald’s newest Big Mac and an interesting tidbit about Gwyneth Paltrow’s goop. [16:41]
Next in Pop & Gen: Quick Hits, the sisters pay homage to the latest celebrities we’ve lost including two actors who played multiple iconic roles, and discuss trailblazing journalist Connie Chung’s influence on girls and women. Then they shift tones and talk Ryan Murphy’s unique brain and his upcoming show All’s Fair starring Niecy Nash, Sarah Paulson, and Kim Kardashian?? And a nostalgic Upworthy article leads to a fun review of now useless skills like memorizing phone numbers. [22:43]
That’s followed by Pop & Gen: Deep Dives, where the pair chat about current fashion trends like crop tops and ankle socks, whether there’s an age limit on certain looks, and how they feel about trends returning. [39:25]
Then it’s time for On Our Screens and the sisters excitedly dig into the return of early aught stars Kristen Bell and Adam Brody in their new Netflix show, “Nobody Wants This.” They also review the latest season of the hot mess that is ‘Love is Blind’ and the documentary ‘Love on the Run’ about the prison guard who helped her convict paramour escape. [50:13]
The show wraps up with Through Our Earbuds talking about a moving segment during a recent episode of the ‘Higher Learning’ podcast and yukking it up with 'The Giggly Squad' pod. [58:31]
Also, October is Breast Cancer Awareness month and the sisters also get vulnerable as they recount how Keisha’s previous bouts with breast cancer affected the family.
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Chantal (00:00):
I went to her door and I knocked on.
She goes oh, I'm so sorry.
I do that to feed the birds andmy cat loves to play with the
birds.
I said I know what type ofbitch you are.
Her cat loves to play with thebirds.
Yes, Before the cat tries tokill the birds.
Keisha (00:16):
It kills them, that's what they do Exactly.
Chantal (00:19):
So I was like you're one of them, dumb bitches.
So she literally feeds thebirds sunflower seeds.
The sunflower seeds are allover my balcony and bird shit is
all over the railing, and sowhen Capri goes out to pee, he's
like it's disgusting, keisha,it's disgusting, it's unsanitary
, unsanitary.
So you have, and so it'sdropping, and so I asked her to
(00:41):
please stop.
Do you think she stopped?
No, I go outside this morningon top of after seeing the
sewage this dumbass has there'snow at more bird shit.
I'm like this dumb bitch isstill feeding these birds.
Why are you feeding birdssunflower seeds?
You know what my today Ilearned is today I learned I
could snatch a bitch.
I could snatch a bitch becauseI don't let me go up there a
second time.
Don't let it happen.
Keisha (01:04):
Hello, welcome to Cross-Gen Sisters.
I'm Keisha.
Chantal (01:07):
I'm the older sister.
And hey y'all, I'm Chantal theyounger sister.
Hey, sis.
Keisha (01:14):
How's it going?
It's rhetorical, you don't haveto answer, I actually already
know.
So let's just get into the chitchat.
My eyes are turning against me,me.
It's like overnight theydecided you know what, we're old
and you're not going to be ableto see anything.
I went to the movies.
(01:35):
I went to the Alamo withKirsten a couple weeks ago.
You know the Alamo.
At the end they bring your billand the theater is still kind of
dark.
They turn on these low levellights, but at the stage in life
where I and my eyes are, Ican't see, one because the print
is so tiny and two because it'sdark.
(01:56):
And so I'm just you know, myphone is like six feet from my
face.
I'm trying to read the printand also like I don't want to
pull out my phone and turn onthe flashlight because it just
reminds you of older people whoI know.
And so my friend Kirsten.
She's like do you want me tosign it and fill out the total
(02:16):
for you?
And I was like thank you, myfriend, who is 10 years younger
and has better eyes than I do.
Chantal (02:22):
That's a good friend years younger and has better
eyes than I do.
That's a good friend.
Well, if it makes you feel anybetter.
Keesh, our mother's procreationpartner, has terrible, horrific
eyesight.
Keisha (02:31):
So it's, I know it's hereditary.
So our cousins, uncle, almostall wear glasses or contacts.
Chantal (02:41):
Yeah, and you don't wear contacts or glasses.
Right, you wear contacts.
Yeah, I wear contacts.
Keisha (02:47):
We didn't all get LASIK.
Chantal (02:49):
Excuse me.
Yeah, I chose vision.
Okay, I chose, I want to havesuch good vision.
I want to see Jesus, and I do.
I see him every morning.
So, yeah, I think that youshould consider LASIK.
Keisha (03:00):
Maybe it's been a long enough time where I would feel
more comfortable doing it.
It's just expensive.
Chantal (03:08):
Not if you get it on Groupon, like I did.
Keisha (03:12):
I'm glad that worked out for you, but I don't trust that
, especially when it comes tomedical stuff.
Chantal (03:16):
Like I don't want to bargain get it, but it was an
esteemed facility.
Like did my thorough research,did my due diligence and I felt
the exact same way.
I was like this is very sketchthat you guys are on Groupon,
but it was a top rated LASIKsurgery centers in Austin when I
lived there at the time andthat was almost 10 years ago.
(03:39):
Can you believe it?
Next year will be 10 yearssince I had LASIK eye surgery.
Oh, wow, yeah.
Like I have on these glassesright now for, like, looking at
computers, but when I take themoff it's better.
When I don't have them I'm justwearing these glasses for, like
, the blue light or whatever youcall it, and I can maintain
into my later years.
So I'm just saying maybe not agroupon if you don't feel
(03:59):
comfortable, but I highlyrecommend considering LASIK
because it's the best thing I'veever invested in besides my dog
.
Wow, yes.
Keisha (04:09):
That was a good.
That was a good feel for LASIK.
Maybe I'll look into that fornext year.
I can't handle any more medicalprocedures this year with
(04:32):
surgery on both my feet and therecovery.
Just I never want to haveanything done to my feet again.
I need.
Chantal (04:34):
I felt so immobile and loss of independence and yeah,
and you live that is notaccessible or friendly to those
who it it is not.
Keisha (04:45):
I am so much more and I hate to be one of those people
who's like now that thishappened to me, I am so much
more aware.
I was aware of people withphysical disabilities in the
city before and, you know,always tried to be respectful.
But now I'm like ultra awarewhether it's someone who is
temporarily walking around incrutches because, oh my gosh,
(05:07):
it's one thing to be wearingthese thick ass inflexible
surgical shoes.
It's another thing to also haveto use crutches to get around
because the subway sucks forthat.
You're walking like eight milesto get to your side of the
platform.
I could go on, but we got ashow to do.
(05:27):
How has your weekend been sofar?
Chantal (05:31):
Oh, my goodness.
As you said you know how I am Ihad a fire drill this morning
at home not an actual fire drill, which would not surprise me if
that also happened.
I cannot wait to leave thisplace, but I've had a very chill
weekend to happen.
I cannot wait to leave thisplace, but I've had a very chill
weekend, I am very proud to say, before we get to the fire
drill, that happened at myapartment this weekend.
I had the pleasure ofparticipating in the Susan G
(05:52):
Komen More Than Pink Walk and itwas the honor of a lifetime to
be able to do that.
And your honor, keisha, becauseyou are a breast cancer
survivor and you are a warrior,one of the strongest people I
know.
And so me and my little pup wewalked in your honor and it was
(06:18):
emotional because I met so manysurvivors and so many women who
are dealing with the terribledisease.
But just to see the women whowere 25, 30 years on remission,
it was just beautiful to seethem in their light and their
joy, wearing their tutus andtheir pink, seeing the little
kids wearing I wear pink for mymom.
That made me cry because I sawlike a five-year-old girl who
said I'm here for you, mommy.
Her mom gave her this big hug.
(06:38):
Her mom had her hair shaved.
I was just like, wow, like thisaffects everyone of all walks
of life no-transcript and it wasjust a very, very fulfilling
(07:10):
experience.
That was really, really great.
Keisha (07:12):
That's amazing.
I'm so touched that you andCapri did that For the 10
listeners.
Capri is a toy multi-poo sohe's well.
He used to be like seven pounds.
You said he's gained a couplepounds.
Chantal (07:32):
Nine and ten pounds.
Keisha (07:34):
He's getting thick In any case, he's a little guy.
He's got little legs, lookslike a cute little blonde teddy
bear and he did the whole.
It was a 5k, right, no?
Chantal (07:45):
it was 2k 2k.
Keisha (07:47):
I was so proud I'm proud of both of you and the pictures
were adorable.
I loved his little neckerchiefthat said it said I'm walking
for my aunt I wear pink for myaunt, yeah yeah, it was adorable
he was the star.
Chantal (08:02):
I was like, oh my goodness.
And I appreciate how peopleasked can I take care of your
dog?
Can I pet your dog?
I just appreciate the decencybecause so many people will go
up to Capri and grab him and Ijust appreciate the fact that
they were being so kind.
Yes, capri was the star of theshow, as he normally is.
Keisha (08:17):
I mean, he's like a natural model.
Chantal (08:20):
He is, and you know his side eyes Whenever this one,
and he doesn't like kids.
Um, he, he cannot standchildren, so neither, neither
does ollie.
Yeah, he's like I'm the onlycute little one around here,
back up, back up, and so thislittle girl tried to hug him and
he barks at her.
He just looked at her.
I was like okay enough, he doesnot like children.
(08:43):
I will say with.
Keisha (08:45):
Ollie, I think in particular he doesn't like
toddlers.
I think it's because they havea certain energy that he senses
it's very frenetic, like youdon't know what the fuck they're
going to do.
Then go left, then go right,zigzag up down, bounce around.
They could jump on you.
I think he senses that and he'slike uh-uh, so senses that.
(09:06):
And he's like uh-uh, so he willbark.
And so I have to be careful ifwe encounter a toddler, because
I don't want them to touch himor try to touch him, and I've
had to tell, I've had likewell-mannered toddlers be like
can I pet your doggy?
I'm like you can try, but he'she's very shy and he's kind of
scared of of little, of littlekids and he's not, he's not with
(09:27):
it.
Anyway, that being said, I neverthought that I would be someone
, that someone else would walkor do any kind of, you know,
fundraising walk challenge runin my honor.
So it was kind of surreal whenyou said that you were going to
do that.
I was very touched and I alsodidn't.
(09:50):
I don't think I realized justhow much my having breast cancer
twice impacted the people in mylife who care about me and you
know you saying that you didthis walk in my honor is like a
reminder of how it impacts otherpeople, and also our sister,
(10:14):
natasha, who designed thesebeautiful resin female body
figurines and they're like inbikinis with nice bouncy boobs
and she donated them to, I think, breast cancer survivors and
(10:37):
people who are still goingthrough it, and someone sent her
a really sweet note.
Chantal (10:53):
I'll see if I can find it and ask her if she's okay
with me sharing it, because Ithought it was very lovely.
Her resins are gorgeous.
Like they're stunning the bodysculptures she does.
Keisha (11:03):
I have one in the centerpiece of my living room
and it's just gorgeous.
Oh, she said they are verygorgeous.
Um, so she sent one woman abreast cancer awareness statue.
She said she decorated the boxwith pink ribbons and tissue
paper.
She's going to use the proceedsto join and donate to the Susan
G Komen Breast Cancer AwarenessWalk in Vegas this year, which
(11:26):
is where she lives, and it issuper cute.
I'll also ask her if I can postit on our socials.
And so she got a review and itsays hello, I received my
package.
All I could do is cry thesestatues are absolutely amazing.
(11:48):
The free gift makes me believethere are still good people in
this world.
I'm going to put them ondisplay at my breast cancer
awareness event on the 16th ofoctober.
It was a pleasure doingbusiness with you.
Chantal (12:02):
Take care oh yeah, yeah , that's.
That's very special.
But to pivot to the fire drill,I woke up this morning to a
disgusting smell and it turnsout my kitchen sink is backed up
and when I went to do thegarbage the the sink disposal it
started shooting up like likethe fourth of july, and I'm
(12:24):
sorry to give you guys thatvisual, but this is what I had
to deal with this morning and Icannot, in the words of Tokyo,
tony, I cannot wait to get thefuck ASAP about here.
So yeah, that was my weekend ina nutshell, sis, how was your
weekend my?
Keisha (12:38):
weekend's been great Not as naughty as yours.
The weather this weekend hasbeen fantastic.
There's an account I follow oninstagram.
I'm, I feel, like a weatherfangirl following this account
because I'm always tellingpeople about it.
It's called ny metro weatherand it's this man who is I think
(13:04):
he is officially ameteorologist or he's just a
climate enthusiast and he juststarted providing weather
updates for the New York, newJersey, area.
And I found him on Twitter maybea year or two years ago and I
was one of, I think, maybe liketwo, three thousand followers
(13:27):
and he just would post like thewhat, like the weather in a like
, one sentence, like and talkabout the vibe.
So like, the vibes today aregood, the dew points are low,
you can go outside and walk yourdog and be happy, and he'll
give it like a rating out of 10,on a scale of 1 to 10.
(13:49):
And he said yesterday was a 10out of 10.
We still rarely get 10 out of10 days in New York, so it's
major.
So yesterday I went to the parkwith Ollie and our friends,
piper and her dog.
We walked to Prospect Park justlike, I think, like two miles
(14:13):
and just hung out in the parkand it was fun.
Chantal (14:21):
Beautiful day, dogs loved it.
Keisha (14:23):
That sounds like the perfect New York afternoon
afternoon.
I love this for you.
Yeah, we just have you know.
This is the two if we're luckytwo month window where the
weather is really good, likethis is my weather like 72,
there's a gentle breeze, the sunis is like behaving itself, not
acting like it's out to attackeveryone.
(14:45):
Yeah, so I'm gonna spend asmuch time outside the next few
weeks as I can I love that, sis.
Chantal (14:54):
Well, that leads me to my next point of let's dig into
some hot topics, shall we?
Keisha (15:02):
hot topics.
What shows us okay?
Chantal (15:11):
that leads me to my next part, and let's start the
show with some.
Today I learned well, I'm upfirst this week for today I
learned.
And today I learned thatmcdonald's is coming out with a
chicken big mac.
Did you hear about this?
Keisha (15:29):
no, what's a?
I don't understand what's.
How's it different from like achicken sandwich?
Chantal (15:37):
it literally is just taking a big mac and replacing
the beef with chicken, and I'mpretty sure this has been done
already from those who wouldlike to have this.
I just don't understand howthis is groundbreaking, because
if you wanted a chicken big mac,all you have to do is ask for a
chicken sandwich, any big mac,and just put the chicken in the
big.
I don't understand how this is.
They use the popular, populartwitch uh streamer sorry I can't
(16:01):
talk today kai sanat to promoteit and I was just like okay,
how is this news?
Keisha (16:08):
what I don't?
I don't think I've ever had abig mac.
What is special about it?
Chantal (16:12):
so it's known, because it is three buns and with three
buns you're putting you'reputting the meat in between each
of the buns and you're puttinglettuce, tomato pickles and
what's special Big Mac sauce.
And I got to say the Big Macsauce is actually tasty.
I remember one of the firsttimes I had a Big Mac sauce I
asked mom if I could have one.
(16:33):
She goes you're not eating thatbig ass burger, what do you
mean?
Like that's huge.
And it was huge and I couldn'tfinish it.
But the moment that Big Macsauce touched my lips it was an
experience I don't think I'llever forget.
But that big when you're littleand the day comes and you're
able to graduate from the kidsmeal oh, period game over.
(16:54):
So, mom, let me get a Big Mac.
And I literally will neverforget the taste of it.
And so I have not had a Big Macin years because, wow, is it a
lot of food, because I don'tneed all of that.
But I think I might go try thechicken Big Mac.
I think I might do it.
I just will not eat the entirething because that is excessive,
but the Big Mac sauce is reallygood.
Keisha (17:18):
Yeah, I don't think I've ever had this.
That's just a lot of food, likethree buns or one and a half
buns well, it's three well, yeah, two and a half buns, it's one
and a half buns.
Chantal (17:36):
Right, you said so.
You need two top of bun, top ofbun, bottom of bottom of bun
bun.
So that's three buns.
That's not three buns, that'sone, that's one and a half buns.
You mean to tell me that whenyou have a duo bun, you call it
not a one bun or you call it Ithink that is one that I think
(18:00):
that one top of a bun, that's aone bun.
What is mcdonald's called,though I don't know they call it
, they call it the big mac.
I think that one top of a bun.
That's a one bun.
What does McDonald's call that?
I don't know.
They call it the Big Mac.
How do they describe it?
They don't say they have likebuns.
They say you get a Big Mac Ifyou are going to make a
hamburger.
You have two buns.
It's not one bun.
(18:20):
Okay.
Keisha (18:23):
So technically, let's see, technically they're both
right.
They're specified as the topbun, the middle bun and the
bottom bun.
So what I said?
Yeah, so okay, big mac, greatI'm.
Chantal (18:43):
I don't care about this chicken sandwich, sorry I knew
you wouldn't, but I do so I waslike.
Keisha (18:48):
You know what I love I'm not saying like, why are you
telling me this?
I'm just saying like, I'm notgoing to go eat it.
Chantal (18:56):
I know you wouldn't.
You don't even eat McDonald's.
What Since when?
I don't think I've seen you eatMcDonald's in years.
When do you?
Keisha (19:04):
eat.
Mcdonald's I ate McDonald'swith you last Halloween when we
came home from that party.
Chantal (19:10):
Again.
What was that a year ago?
Keisha (19:16):
Have you had mcdonald's since?
Yes, I actually had mcdonald'son thursday night I'm not proud
of this.
Chantal (19:19):
I mean, sometimes you just gotta go to mickey d's.
My version of mickey d's istaco bell.
Taco bell has had me in achokehold since I was a little
girl.
Yes, I'm aware.
Oh, I love me a good taco bell.
Oh, it will never get old.
What did fergie say?
I still go to taco bell.
Drive through raw's hill, Idon't care, I'm still real, no
(19:39):
matter how many records I sell.
Okay, I love me some taco bell,okay.
So what about you, sis?
What did you learn?
Okay?
Keisha (19:50):
I learned from my rewatch of Modern Family and
maybe you knew this that theorigin of Goop the name of
Gwyneth Paltrow's company isbased on added two O's.
Because Peter Amell told hersuccessful internet companies
(20:25):
have double O's in their nameand she wanted a name, a word,
that could mean anything or itcould mean nothing.
So she added the double obetween her initials and that is
how she came up with the namegoop did you know.
Chantal (20:42):
That's why she came up with that yeah you're not
impressed?
No, but good for her.
It's a catchy name.
I gotta say who.
I think it sounds gross, but itjust does.
It reminds me of sounds gross,but it just reminds me of the
Nickelodeon slime.
It reminds me of boogers.
That's disgusting, but good forher.
(21:03):
She's a billionaire, right?
She's like a billionaire, soshe's getting her money some way
.
Oh, I don't know.
I do think she retired fromacting and it's just Wow, okay,
so hard for acting, and it'sjust, I actually was an actress,
wow, um, okay.
Keisha (21:18):
So now that we're both that much more well informed,
why don't we move on to pop andjen.
Chantal (21:28):
All righty, first up this week in our pop and j quick
hits.
All right, let's do this.
Did you hear about the Grandaand Maggie Smith past?
And she's iconic.
She is iconic.
I was really sad to hear that.
Keisha (21:50):
She was 89, which is a good.
I mean mean that's a good longlife she and she had.
She had some roles that willlook down in history
cinematically and whatever you,whatever the television version
of that word is.
One of my favorite roles thatshe's taken on was playing the
(22:14):
Dowager Countess Grandmama onDownton Abbey.
She, queen of the one, thecutting, biting, shady
one-liners oh, just fabulous.
Love her in that.
How about?
Chantal (22:31):
you.
I mean I love her.
I was introduced to her in 2001in Harry Potter.
You know I'm a Harry Pottergirly, so, um, seeing her in
that, she was just so endearingand protective of Harry in the
in the movie and she just seemedlike this motherly figure, um,
and she just was just.
I know her career spans decadesbefore that, but that's what
(22:51):
how I was introduced to her.
But yeah, she was a delight andI loved her accent, like I know
she.
You know people in the UK theyhave all different variations of
accents, but hers was just sodemanding and just her presence
and just yeah.
So she had a storied career andmay she rest in peace.
(23:12):
One thing I will say peoplereally grind my gears when they
say gone too soon when it comesto someone who was like 95.
Like when James Earl Jones died, they were like you said this
last week or last episode.
I know, but I'm gonna say itagain because they said it.
May she rest in peace, but gonetoo-.
What do you mean?
Gone too soon, just like?
(23:34):
Are we for real?
I just will never understand it.
So that's just what grinds mygears Gone too soon.
Keisha (23:41):
Also, I wonder like how did if those people were still
alive?
How did they feel about stillbeing alive at this point?
Were they still enjoying theirlife?
Because that's really whatmatters.
Chantal (23:52):
I feel like Cicely Tyson when she passed she was
like finally.
Keisha (23:56):
Yeah, she was like I've done all the things.
Chantal (23:59):
Like what is there left to do?
Yeah, so rest in peace to theseicons.
Speaking of rest in peace, wealso lost John Amos, and so RIP.
Keisha (24:12):
Yeah, so I found out about this through.
We have an ERG at work employeeresource group for the Black
employees and their allies, Iguess, and someone posted that
John Amos died and that heapparently died over a month ago
(24:33):
.
And that he apparently diedover a month ago.
But we're just finding out and,more egregiously, some of his
family is just finding out andthere's just a lot of mystery
surrounding his death, includingallegations of elder abuse, so
I don't know what was going on.
I believe he was 83 when hedied.
(24:54):
I hope that he had a good lifeand I hope that there was
nothing suspicious about hisdeath and I appreciate his
contributions to television,film and I know he inspired so
many actors' generations.
Chantal (25:15):
Yeah, what a legend, what an icon.
May he rest in peace as well.
Keisha (25:19):
Indeed, did you hear that Ryan Murphy, like the
internet is not working, he hasa new legal drama coming out
starring Glenn Close and NiecyNash.
Starring Glenn Close and NiecyNash, tiana Taylor, naomi Watts
and apparently Kim K and Ibelieve Kim K also was in Ryan
(25:42):
Murphy's American Horror Stories.
I don't watch that, it's toogruesome for me, but he likes
her and asks for her in thislegal drama that is called all's
fair and she's apparently goingto have like a significant role
(26:03):
in this series which like wow,I guess she really is like
cementing her status as anactress, because this is a heavy
hitter cast.
This is not like like glennclose, sarah paulson, nisi nash.
These are not like chumps, like.
These actresses are esteemedand super talented.
Chantal (26:23):
So we'll see if the show is good I mean, I think
that it makes sense because sheis a legal girly.
I don't know, she's in lawschool.
I think she didn't pass the bar.
I don't know she did pass thebar, oh, she did, so she's a
lawyer.
Keisha (26:37):
Wait, did she pass the bar?
I thought she finally passed it.
Chantal (26:41):
I don't think she did, because we would know if she was
a lawyer.
Yeah, I think she didn't passit, so she's taking the test
again.
I could be wrong, but I feellike we would have heard if she
became a lawyer, it wouldn'thave been big news because she
would have proved billion, ha,ha, suckers, because good for
her.
I think that it makes sense,ryan Murphy, when he you are
part of his universe, you are apart of it forever.
(27:01):
Ie, niecy Nash, sarah Paulsonthey go together with Ryan
Murphy real bad, and it justmakes sense.
So I had to see that.
Did you hear about the otherone that he's coming up with,
where story is going to starJeremy Pope and Anthony Ramos,
where there is a STI that makesyou beautiful?
Wait, what is this called?
(27:22):
It is called Let Me Get In.
I don't know what the name is.
I just saw it online and I waslike what the hell is happening.
Keisha (27:29):
Isn't that show the Substance?
No, or is that something else?
Chantal (27:33):
That's something completely different.
That's not the same, but it'sstarring anthony ramos.
Ramos gives me and jeremy pope,but it's basically going to be
about when you get an sti, howit beautifies you and I don't
know.
I don't know.
Ryan murphy has a sick head.
I would like to work with himone day, so I'm not gonna say
(27:54):
too much about him.
But yes, that is.
That is what it's going to beabout all right, like I said,
the man stayed busy, booked andbusy.
Keisha (28:04):
Okay, don't play with him because he's gonna and I,
yeah, I agree.
I looked it up and Kim passedthe baby bar.
I am not really sure what thatis, so she passed something.
Anyway.
Have you seen connie chung backon the scene promoting her new
(28:29):
book, her memoir?
Chantal (28:31):
you're gonna be mad at me, but I don't know who connie
chung is that's amazing I haveno clue who that is oh my gosh.
Keisha (28:43):
So connie chung is, she's kind of like the chinese
barbara walters.
Chantal (28:53):
So she's Maury's wife.
Keisha (28:56):
Yeah, she's Maury Povich's wife.
Are you kidding?
Maury Povich is her husband.
They've been married forever.
Chantal (29:03):
What Are you kidding?
Okay, I know who this is.
Didn't she have a talk show?
Keisha (29:09):
I don't know that she had a talk show, but she had a
news show.
Chantal (29:13):
She's a journalist, oh yes, okay, I know's a journalist
.
Oh, yes, okay, I know who sheis.
Oh my gosh, she's married toMar-.
Oh, this is it.
This is an amazing dynamic.
Keisha (29:23):
This is what gets you to know who she is.
Chantal (29:26):
Oh my gosh, that is so cool.
What a power couple Wow.
Keisha (29:31):
And they seem you know, you don't know what goes on
people's personal lives, butthey seem like they really love
each other.
Chantal (29:36):
I'm sorry, but if you go to her Instagram, the first
thing that pops up is hertalking about something, and the
quotations say I could see thesperm swimming in their eyes.
What the hell is Connie?
Keisha (29:50):
That's funny.
Chantal (29:56):
OK, connie, all right.
No, I didn't see that.
But am I going to go read it?
Probably not, because you knowI haven't been a reader in a few
years, but I might listen to it.
Keisha (30:00):
well, I'm sure I mean I'm not.
This is not really about herbook.
I'm, you know, mentioning thatshe's back on the scene because
she's promoting the memoir.
I don't know if I will read iteither, but that's because I
haven't been reading anything.
But what I also wanted to pointout is because she's so iconic
as a groundbreaking femalejournalist in a time when it was
(30:25):
really difficult for women tobe treated seriously and to
ascend.
She, of course, made animpression on many people in
Asian communities, especiallyChinese, and there is a
generation, called GenerationConnie, of Asian girls and women
(30:47):
who were named after ConnieChung, and there's a picture of
her with them, some of them inthis New York Times article that
I linked and also, I think, onher Instagram, and it's just so
touching.
It's like it just shows thepower again not to be cliche of
representation, because some ofthese girls named Connie are
(31:09):
also journalists now, becausethey took it seriously that they
were named after her, so justthought that was cool I love
that.
Chantal (31:20):
Good for her go.
Keisha (31:21):
Connie chung yeah, well, geez, that's quite the roundup
this week, sis speaking ofpeople, back on the scene,
jaleel white of family mattersfame.
Most people probably know himby his character's name, erkel,
steve Erkel.
He wrote a memoir calledGrowing Up Erkel which is being
released on November 19th, andhe was on the talk talking about
(31:50):
his time growing up inHollywood and being a child star
and being so recognizable asUrkel and that being like
sticking with him for decades.
And he said again, speaking ofrepresentation, he would have
black men.
He said black men.
Actually any man who woreglasses would come up to me and
(32:13):
say you know, man, you wearingglasses made it easier for me to
wear glasses when I was growingup because it made it cool.
I was like, yeah, you justnever know who you're impacting.
Chantal (32:28):
That's dope.
I mean, did I do that?
Everyone says that I willrandomly bust out saying that,
so his impact is very, verystrong.
Yeah, iconic, iconic, I lovethat.
Keisha (32:44):
So for a Jen part of Poppin' Jen, I came across this
article in Upworthy I likeUpworthy because it tends to be
positive news and it says peopleborn before 1990 are sharing
their now useless but 100%nostalgic skills.
(33:05):
And since you were just on thecusp of that, I wanted to go
through a couple of these andsee if you know anything that
I've been talking about Makingbrown paper bag book covers.
Did you ever make a brown paperbag book cover?
Oh yeah, we had to do thatbecause we had to have book
(33:28):
covers and they weren't justlike go on Amazon, order some
book cover, so people would makethem and then decorate them.
Chantal (33:38):
Why do you need a book cover?
Keisha (33:40):
Because you don't own the books that you get during
the school year.
They're borrowed and you don'twant to damage them.
Chantal (33:47):
Oh, I'm kidding.
Yeah, we did.
We did the stretchy ones.
We had the fabric.
We didn't have the paper bags.
We had the stretchy fabric.
We had the fabric.
We didn't have the paper.
Keisha (33:53):
We didn't have the paper bags with a stretchy fabric for
our books.
So you had a book cover but youdidn't have, like, the grocery
bag that you cut apart and foldinto.
Yeah, it was basically like anarts and craft that is so good?
Oh no, we did not do that hey,we were doing what, we were
(34:15):
doing the best we could why Iwould use wrapping paper before
I used.
Uh, some people did, butwrapping paper rips too easily,
like.
Think about it if you'reputting, like, several books in
your backpack that are wrappedwith wrapping paper, that's
gonna tear like, tear, like mypaper bag is sturdier, anyway,
(34:38):
how about do you memorize phonenumbers?
Chantal (34:44):
I used to.
I know every one of myimmediate family's phone number,
but anyone outside of it sorry,I don't know your phone number
Because I just in case ofemergency, like I, have to
remember y'all's phone numbers.
Keisha (34:53):
I don't know your phone number Because I just in case of
emergency, like I have toremember y'all's phone numbers
and do you think the fact thatmost of us have had these phone
numbers for probably 20 years?
Chantal (35:04):
helps with that?
Absolutely, because none of uschange our phone numbers.
So I've had the same phonenumber for 17 years, so I'm
never changing it If I got a newphone phone number.
Keisha (35:16):
Do you think that you memorize it?
No one more.
Did you ever make a mixtapefrom a radio?
Chantal (35:27):
no, but I did do it for voicemails or voicemails what
do you mean?
I like I would do like remix,like yo yo, yo, yo.
It's Chantal, thanks, sorry Imissed your call and I would
have music play in thebackground, like it could be.
Like you know music playing, Idon't know, I would just remix
music.
That's not the same thing.
(35:49):
Well, it's a version of it.
How, what was?
It's a version of it.
How is that a version of it?
You're?
Keisha (35:59):
making it.
You're making a remix like amixtape.
You're not.
A mixtape is not a remix.
You don't have a, do you?
Chantal (36:03):
know what a mixtape is.
Yeah, I didn't mix, I didn't doa mixtape, I just did.
I did like if I had a crush onsomeone or whatever.
I did lime wire, I'm a limewire, limewire era.
Keisha (36:14):
So that's my point you did not have to.
You don't remember listening tothe radio, waiting for a
particular song to play and thenpressing record on either a
cassette player or a cassetterecorder, or a, if you were
lucky enough to have a burner no, that was amazing amazing the
(36:43):
daytime chat show on cbs.
They had hosts fill in for akbarthis week, different hosts each
day.
They had tabitha brown Brown,they had Yvette Nicole Brown
Unrelated as far as I know andthey had Ariana Maddox.
When I saw her on I was likethis is starting to become a
(37:07):
really big running joke on thispodcast because she literally is
everywhere and I was just like,well, I can't not bring it up.
Chantal (37:17):
So that was it.
Congrats to you.
But Nicole Brown, tabitha Brown, so happy for them, love them.
I want nothing but the best forthem and congratulations to
them on co-hosting the talk.
Keisha (37:28):
That's super huge let's see how it is very happy for
those two I love it.
Chantal (37:35):
I want them to do nothing but great everyone did
very well and look beautiful.
I'll leave that in time withthe.
They can do no wrong, love them.
Well, that's fun.
I love that.
Well, that's quite the roundupthis week, sis.
Now let's get into some pop andJen deep dive.
Keisha (37:59):
I just have one deep dive.
This week we kind of talkedabout this outside the podcast.
I want to talk about fashiontrends and how they skew toward
the youngest generation.
So like whatever Gen Alpha youknow the big 14, 0 to 14, I
(38:25):
think that's Gen Alpha Whateverthey're wearing is considered
like the coolest cutting edge.
They somehow lead trendsfollowed by gen z and then
millennials, and then likeanyone else is just not cool.
Like clothing, most clothingdesigners are not checking for
us, they're not designing for us, they're not trying to market
(38:46):
towards us pandemic.
I like don't know how to dressanymore.
We came out of the pandemic andthere's a lot of like leisure,
like athleisure and comfortstuff, sweatpants, and I like
(39:13):
you you probably would agreewith this I was raised.
We don't wear like sweatpantsand stuff out in public, so it
really took a while for me tocome around like and just let go
of the like.
This is just as like a randomsocial construct that you don't
have to adhere to, and I stilldon't really wear sweatpants
(39:34):
unless I'm like quickly runningto the grocery store.
But anyway, crop tops are a bigthing again and everything is
cropped.
Jackets are cropped, shirts arecropped, button down shirts are
cropped and like.
I have had a battle with mywaistline for most of my like
(39:58):
life, since I was aware that Ihad a waistline and I wore crop
tops when they were popular inlike the late 90s and the early
2000s, when I was okay with mywaistline especially when I lost
my college 15 or freshman 15.
I would wear crop tops.
(40:20):
I had a lot more confidence, Ithink, when I was younger.
As I got older I just becamemore self-conscious and now it
just kind of like I don't thinkyou should have a limit on age
as far as what you can wear, butit just feels kind of weird to
like wear a crop top again.
I don't know, how do you feel?
Chantal (40:41):
I love crop tops.
I'm wearing two crop things.
I know you love a crop top andI think it's great.
I love crop tops.
I lost a lot of weight thispast year, and so I'm now having
a new relation with my body,something that I didn't ever
think I could do, and so I'vejust embraced this new part of
me, and I love crop.
It makes me feel sexy, but evenbefore you all saw this weight.
Keisha (41:04):
You were wearing crop tops and I applaud you for being
comfortable wearing things thatI personally don't feel
comfortable wearing because Ijust in my head, yeah, I get it,
I get it.
Chantal (41:16):
I think I just was just like I'm wearing this for me,
like I'm wearing it because itmakes me feel comfortable, it
makes me feel sexy, it makes meI think that from the perception
for other people, like I usedto dress for the people, but now
I dress for me, I dress for mycomfortability, I dress for my
ease, I dress what makes me feel, you know, good in my body.
And when I wear crop tops, Idon't know, I just sound like so
(41:39):
badass about it and wearinglike crop top and baggy jeans or
baggy sweatpants, like I amgoing to run errands after this,
and I'm just like, okay, I'mgoing to wear my crops.
To your point, I cringe if Ieven go to the mailbox in
sweatpants because I just hearmom in my head being like girl,
where the hell are you going?
So that's something that Istill deal with internally.
(41:59):
But I'm going to wear crop topand baggy jeans going to the
store, and so I just find I loveit To your point.
This is literally my like croptop, everything that's my
aesthetic, everything thatyou're just being done with On a
daily basis.
In Los Angeles, people wearnothing.
People don't wear clothes inLos Angeles and you walk out in
(42:20):
a bra and leggings.
That will never be me.
I just think there's just somelevels of just like I don't know
decency.
I don't know.
I just feel like that's where Idraw the line.
You'll never see me outsidewith a sports bra, but yeah, I
think that it's just I don'tknow.
I see you feel very comfortableand I think it's the way you
wear the crop top and baggypants can be very sexy and cute.
Okay, so you're pro crop?
Keisha (42:39):
tops and baggy pants.
Where do you stand on socks andthe height of socks?
Chantal (42:46):
there's a debate over literally whoever they're
talking shit about.
They're talking shit about mebecause I wear the leggings with
little socks, all all the wayup and with my sneakers.
That's me Like up to where Likemid-calf ankle Up to your ankle
Like you're past the ankle,okay, Because I think now people
(43:09):
are talking about mid-calf.
Keisha (43:12):
That's a bit too far, Like it just keeps going a
little bit higher, a little bithigher.
Chantal (43:16):
Stockings.
You're wearing goddamnstockings.
It's no longer socks.
That's ridiculous.
Put some damn stockings on andcall it a day.
That's too high, like rightunder the calf, is where I stop.
Keisha (43:27):
Okay, yeah, I think those are ankle socks.
Chantal (43:32):
Yeah, ankle socks.
So I wear those because I am agym girly now and I go to the
gym, I wear my leggings and Iwear my ankle socks.
Yoo-hoo, it's really cute.
It's so, la, and I used to bethe one who judged those girlies
, but now I am that girly, soI've embraced it.
Keisha (43:49):
As you know, I also lost a significant amount of weight
this year and I'm feeling good,or better, about my body working
out as well.
And I bought, I ordered, someexercise crop tops.
I'm going to dip my toe back inthe crop top water with the
exercise, with the fitness wear.
Chantal (44:13):
I love that.
I just love fitness wear.
It just makes me feelcomfortable.
But especially when it's cuteand it doesn't look crazy like I
.
I like that cute.
I like when the girlies wear,like the, the sports bra with
the leggings but they have thejacket over it.
That's cute.
But when I see who will justbra out at the grocery store,
I'm like can you save somethingfor?
Like illusion?
I don't know, I just feel likeyou're not the gym right now.
(44:35):
What are we doing?
Keisha (44:37):
I just really applaud their boldness and their
confidence.
Chantal (44:42):
Girl, I can see her.
I can see her.
Areolas, Like that's what Imean, Not the girls who are just
like, oh, I have to run, butlike the ones who literally got
the doubt, Got the goods on fulldisplay.
You don't want to see areolanext to the mangoes, I know I
would like to get my peacewithout seeing your titties, and
that that's all I have to say.
Put more power to you.
(45:04):
Woman, girl empowerment I'm notsaying that at all.
Love who you are, embrace yourbody.
But there just are some looksthat we just have to take into
consideration.
Keisha (45:14):
I don't know if I agree, but I do think that I can see
how it's jarring.
You go to the grocery store andyou're like I have to take care
of the wall.
I'm just going to pick up somecoffee beans and then veg.
Before we wrap up this segment,I wanted to ask if you remember
, speaking of trends, repeatingcrop tops, doc martens, are huge
(45:38):
now you always talk about thisthey have.
Chantal (45:40):
They're gonna keep going back.
They're gonna keepre-regurgitating, resurging.
You haven't regurgitating.
I meant to say resurging.
You know what the hell I meant.
You always talk about doc martand what do about, like what's
the story behind it?
They're researching and newpeople are discovering them.
They're timeless shoes.
Keisha (46:01):
That's not okay.
That's not where this is going.
Excuse me know-it-all.
Remember when you came to visitme when I lived in LA, walking
down Melrose and they have a DocMartens store, and this was
like 20 years ago, I think, andyou were like it's like 16 years
ago okay like that's reallythat much difference.
(46:23):
Four years you're aging us okay,16 years ago, or walking down
Melrose, they have a dedicatedDoc Martens store and you were
like you really want Doc Martensand you hope that you get some.
I think you wanted some forChristmas or your birthday and
you were like, like everyone iswearing these and you're saying
it to me like you were schoolingme on something.
(46:43):
And I was like, yeah, I went tohigh school in the 90s and I
was into the grunge scene andI'm very familiar with Doc
Martens, even though I never hada pair because they're so
expensive.
And you were like like, youwere just so like floored by
this information.
So I always think about thatwhen I see like the
regurgitation of Doc Martenswell, I love Doc Martens.
Chantal (47:08):
I have yet to own a pair.
I've worn some before, butthey're also very heavy shoes to
wear, like you have to reallybreak them in, so I think that's
why I don't own them, butthey're really cute.
Well, great stuff this week.
As always, it's time for ourlast segment on our screens and
through our earphones.
Okay, so I'm starting withwhat's on my screen lately and I
(47:35):
just have two quick hints.
My first one is Nobody Wantsthis, starring Kristen Bell and
Adam Brody.
It is a 10, I think it's anepisode series about this two
people who meet each other andthey just have this spark.
This guy, adam Brody'scharacter, just came out of a
long-term relationship and youjust see what clear
(47:57):
communication looks like.
You see what it's like for themto be very direct, very
understanding of each other,what it's like to know what you
want and being of a certain ageand a certain place in your
career and not beating aroundthe bush.
And as someone who's currentlydating, I just found it was very
, very, very reassuring andbeautiful to see that.
Okay, this is something thatexists and that people are
(48:19):
talking about, and I just thinkthat one the humor is hilarious.
I think the banter betweenKristen Bell she's a delight in
this show.
Even her husband, dak Shepard,said that the chemistry between
her and Anna Brody was reallyinsane.
But yeah, I really like thisshow and I hope there's a season
two what made you want to watchthis?
Keisha (48:38):
Netflix suggested it.
It just doesn't seem like yourusual show that you would choose
.
Chantal (48:47):
I just kept hearing people talk about it and I was
like, oh, okay, well, what isthis show people keep talking
about?
And then I watched the firstepisode.
It helps you immediatelybecause Kirsten Bell is a
comedic queen.
Like she is really really funnyand she's really good at this.
Just the comedic timing is justreally good.
So it helped me and, as aCapricorn with ADHD, you have
about five minutes to get myattention and out the bat
(49:11):
swinging the show.
Just it captures you and sothat's what did it for me.
It was suggested it was ratedlike number one or two.
Hey, I was like, oh, let mecheck it out.
And it immediately got my, gotmy attention and I watched, I
binge, watched it in one day, oh, and I even watched it again.
Keisha (49:29):
So yeah, it's really good.
You sold me when you told methat there was some comedy
involved.
I should have known because ofAdam Brody, but yeah, it sounds
great.
I am going to check that out.
I saw them being interviewed, Ithink on like Access Hollywood,
and they were reading tweets orI don't know what they call
(49:51):
them on X now Shitters, I don'tknow.
They were reading them fromfans and one woman was like 20
years ago I was watching AdamBrody and crushing on him on the
OC.
And here I am 20 years later,at 34, crushing on Adam Brody in
(50:12):
a Netflix show.
Chantal (50:14):
And he looks great.
They both look fantastic, hedoes.
Yeah, they do.
Early 30s both of them.
So good for them for keepingthat fountain of youth and
staying unproblematic.
That's what happens when you'rean unproblematic white person.
God lets you age gracefully, sogood for them.
And then my second show that I'mwatching is Love is Blind,
season seven.
Just when I think each seasongets more unhinged, no, we see
(50:37):
the biggest narcissistgaslighter ever on this season.
His name is Leo.
He's insane.
He, I'm convinced he murderedhis family.
He lost his mom, dad andgrandma in a matter of like two
years.
But like he keeps on talkingabout the fact that he has a
Rolex, he has so much money thatthe woman he dates he doesn't
want them to to want him for hismoney.
And I'm like, I'm convinced youkilled your family.
(50:59):
And then there is this 26 yearold girl named Hannah, who is
also just not ready to date andI don't think she should be for
you.
But we have a beautiful amountof Black representation in this
season and I am obsessed withthe end result of who ends up
(51:22):
together.
It's only six episodes in andit's going to have another
series of episodes released nextweek Well, this week actually
and so we'll be able to see themunfold like unfold on their
honeymoon after getting married,but yes, it is so so good.
Oh, not getting married, butgetting engaged, but yes, it's
so good.
(51:43):
This season keeps you on yourtoes and, yeah, whoever does the
casting for this show does afantastic job.
Do you think they've hadlawsuits?
This season is really good.
Oh, okay, that's my season,because I actually it was a
season I didn't give a damnabout.
All right, let's clarify.
This season the casting isfantastic, really good, great,
(52:04):
mainly because there's multipleBlack people.
That's why I said that.
Excuse me, am I worthy?
Am I going to be loved?
Girl, you are so worthy andyou're a badass bitch and you
deserve nothing but good things.
And you don't have to be upsetthis season, because I'm very
pleased with how the black girlsare treated.
This season I will say thatGirl.
Well, yeah, that's what's gotmy attention lately.
(52:24):
How about you Keish?
Keisha (52:26):
I have one main show that captured my attention, or I
shouldn't say show.
It's a documentary on Netflixcalled Love on the Run.
It's about the correctionsofficer, vicki White, who helped
the prisoner, casey Whiteescape, and I first heard about
(52:47):
this story it took place in 2022, or like the main event took
place in 2022 and in 2022, themain event took place in 2022,
the Escape.
I heard about it through aLifetime movie.
I don't remember hearing aboutit in the news and the Lifetime
movie was pretty good.
I think it starred WendyMcClendon-Covey Wendy
(53:07):
McClendon-Covey, I think, is howyou say her name.
Anyway, so the story is VickiWhite.
She's a like a lonely,unassuming, middle-aged
corrections officer in Alabama.
She is a star employee at thisdetention center.
She's been there for like 20years and she falls in love with
this sounds like sociopathicman, casey White, who's 10 years
(53:31):
younger than she and had arecord since Judy, or since he
was a juvenile and as an adulthe was charged with shooting at
his girlfriend and killing herdog in the process, and he I
think he was already convictedfor something else in serving 75
(53:51):
years and then he was at thedetention center to face charges
for killing the dog and forattempted murder.
So they fell in love.
I don't know how he felt.
I think he's a sociopath, so Idon't think he felt anything.
I think he conned her and shehelped him escape.
Chantal (54:10):
Yeah, I thought this was wild and yeah, that was a
crazy story, ooh insane.
I could have gone my whole lifewithout hearing the math on sex
.
Keisha (54:19):
that was oh yeah, that oh my god, because they, you
know of course they're listeningin if they're making calls from
the, from the jail yeah, yuckit just kind of goes back to
what we talked about when wewere talking about how to die
alone and loneliness.
People will do sometimes havecompanionship.
Chantal (54:41):
Yeah, and look what ended up happening.
So sad.
Don't spoil it, they'll see,they watch it yeah, it was.
Keisha (54:50):
It was good it was.
It's easy to consumedocumentary.
Thought they did a good job.
And then I just want to give ashout out real quick to I'm
catching up on Abbott Elementary.
So I finished season threebecause I had some episodes to
catch up on.
I love the episodes Smoking andParty.
I think they're probably liketop five.
So shout out to AbbottElementary, can't wait for
(55:11):
season four, watch it.
So shout out to Aper Elementary, can't wait for season 4, watch
it.
Alright, let's move on tosounds through our earpuds.
What you got did I say earpuds,I meant earbuds through our
earbuds what you got this week,sis, I'll tell you.
Chantal (55:29):
I'm listening to our Victoria Monet and Sabrina
Carpenter.
Victoria Monet just came outwith a deluxe album.
It's fantastic.
I love her.
And Sabrina Carpenter.
Victoria Monet just came outwith a deluxe album.
It's fantastic.
I love her and SabrinaCarpenter.
I listened to it because I feellike she's everywhere and I was
forced to listen to her, butshe's actually really, really
talented and really good.
I'm obsessed with Bed Kim.
I think it's fantastic.
I will die on this.
That is an interpolation of soInto you by Tamia.
(55:52):
So interpolation of so Into youby Tamia.
So shout out to her payingtribute to R&B icon.
But yes, that's what I listento Now on repeat.
I love my R&B and pop girlies.
They're really taking over and,yes, that's what I've got this
week and they are so, so, so, sogood.
Keisha (56:10):
Did you listen to the whole sweet and sour album
Serena Carpenter?
Chantal (56:18):
not all of it.
I'm still going through itbecause I keep repeating the
same songs over and over again,so I haven't gotten through all
of it.
Keisha (56:23):
A co-worker recommended Juno and Coincidence, I believe,
was the song oh, I like Juno.
That's a good one it's a veryeclectic album.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Chantal (56:34):
She's a very talented, you can tell I.
I appreciate that, thank you.
She's buried out.
You can tell us her up in thechurch or has some type of r&b
inspiration, because she gets it.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'mlistening to.
What about you?
Keisha (56:44):
sis, I've been kind of musically disinterested lately.
Even when I turn on, when Iopen the serious app, I feel
like all the stations I I knowall the songs, even the new ones
like, please play something new, new anyway.
So podcasts for me.
This roundup higher learning isa podcast I listen to regularly
(57:06):
the host for van lathan andrachel lindsey.
They are two black eldermillennials and van has a sister
who's a lesbian and I thoughtit was really interesting.
They were talking about Boosieand how he has a lesbian adult
daughter who he says he lovesbut he hates her sin and doesn't
(57:29):
want to have her around heryounger siblings.
To infect them with her sinfullifestyle is trash.
So they started talking abouthow sad it is when parents treat
their children like that whoare part of the LGBT community.
(57:50):
And Van's father passed awaythe year after, or 2021 I think,
and he has mixed feelings abouthis dad.
But ultimately he reveres hisdad and he said you know, I
don't know how my dad and mysister related with her being a
lesbian and my dad having veryconcert like socially
(58:13):
conservative viewpoints as ablack man, and Rachel is like
why don't you call her and askher?
So they call her.
Her name is Ebony and they sayEbony, just so you know you're
on the podcast.
And Dan's like hey, sis, andthey do the usual like sibling,
like you, suck, fuck you, blah,blah, blah.
How did dad, how did dadrespond to you being a lesbian?
(58:39):
And it was a very heartfelt,like unplanned and impromptu,
like two minute vulnerabilityspill where she said basically
that she knows that he loved herbut he did not want to
acknowledge that part of her.
He didn't want to spend timewith her partner.
(59:02):
Her partner had children, herlongtime partner had children.
He didn't want to meet them, hedidn't want her to talk about
them, he didn't want her to talkabout dating.
And she said she just learnedto like shut that part of her
life off.
And she said I loved him but itwas very complicated and I
could tell that really like hurtVan to hear about his dad.
(59:25):
But I think it also speaks tohow different relationships
siblings can have with theirparents.
So shout out to them.
Highly recommend it.
It's the episode, I think, fromMonday, the 29th of September,
and then also my last one is Ifinally listened to Giggly Squad
(59:48):
.
I talked about that podcast inthe last episode.
It's Hannah Barner and PaigeDeSorbo's podcast that is very
successful is taken on the roadand apparently they do really
well because they sell out.
It's fun.
I really enjoy it.
But oh my god, I caught a straywhen they were talking about
because they talk about allkinds of random stuff.
(01:00:10):
They said yeah, you know,sometimes like my mom says funny
things, like mom say thingslike they, like they answer the
phone and they say this is sheand they're like who says that?
I was like.
Oh my god.
I say that is that I'm notanyone's mom, but I am mom age.
(01:00:30):
Like is that a mom thing?
I was just raised like that's.
If someone calls and asks me, Isay this is she what do other
people say?
very common, so don't feel badis it just the younger like that
?
Chantal (01:00:45):
I think they're.
I think it's a very commonthing.
I don't think it has anythingto do with moms.
I think they just probablyassociate it with their moms
because they don't do itthemselves.
But I say that myself.
Keisha (01:00:54):
So I know you do, because I feel like we're just
taught to have manners likeabout certain you know cultural
niceties.
So anyway, I'm still gonna.
I'm still gonna listen andwatch, because it's a visual
podcast, but like, oh no, sothose are my two for this week.
Chantal (01:01:15):
Oh fun.
So much fantastic things tolisten to and to watch.
I don't know how I found timeto get to it all, but I'm going
to try.
All right, y'all.
And with that we're at the endagain.
Sadly, it's time to say goodbye, but we'll be back in two weeks
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Keisha (01:02:09):
Bye, love you sis Love, you sis Outro Music.
I went to her door and I knocked on.
She goes oh, I'm so sorry.
I do that to feed the birds andmy cat loves to play with the
birds.
I said I know what type ofbitch you are.
Her cat loves to play with thebirds.
Yes, Before the cat tries tokill the birds.
Keisha (00:16):
It kills them, that's what they do Exactly.
Chantal (00:19):
So I was like you're one of them, dumb bitches.
So she literally feeds thebirds sunflower seeds.
The sunflower seeds are allover my balcony and bird shit is
all over the railing, and sowhen Capri goes out to pee, he's
like it's disgusting, keisha,it's disgusting, it's unsanitary
, unsanitary.
So you have, and so it'sdropping, and so I asked her to
(00:41):
please stop.
Do you think she stopped?
No, I go outside this morningon top of after seeing the
sewage this dumbass has there'snow at more bird shit.
I'm like this dumb bitch isstill feeding these birds.
Why are you feeding birdssunflower seeds?
You know what my today Ilearned is today I learned I
could snatch a bitch.
I could snatch a bitch becauseI don't let me go up there a
second time.
Don't let it happen.
Keisha (01:04):
Hello, welcome to Cross-Gen Sisters.
I'm Keisha.
Chantal (01:07):
I'm the older sister.
And hey y'all, I'm Chantal theyounger sister.
Hey, sis.
Keisha (01:14):
How's it going?
It's rhetorical, you don't haveto answer, I actually already
know.
So let's just get into the chitchat.
My eyes are turning against me,me.
It's like overnight theydecided you know what, we're old
and you're not going to be ableto see anything.
I went to the movies.
(01:35):
I went to the Alamo withKirsten a couple weeks ago.
You know the Alamo.
At the end they bring your billand the theater is still kind of
dark.
They turn on these low levellights, but at the stage in life
where I and my eyes are, Ican't see, one because the print
is so tiny and two because it'sdark.
(01:56):
And so I'm just you know, myphone is like six feet from my
face.
I'm trying to read the printand also like I don't want to
pull out my phone and turn onthe flashlight because it just
reminds you of older people whoI know.
And so my friend Kirsten.
She's like do you want me tosign it and fill out the total
(02:16):
for you?
And I was like thank you, myfriend, who is 10 years younger
and has better eyes than I do.
Chantal (02:22):
That's a good friend years younger and has better
eyes than I do.
That's a good friend.
Well, if it makes you feel anybetter.
Keesh, our mother's procreationpartner, has terrible, horrific
eyesight.
Keisha (02:31):
So it's, I know it's hereditary.
So our cousins, uncle, almostall wear glasses or contacts.
Chantal (02:41):
Yeah, and you don't wear contacts or glasses.
Right, you wear contacts.
Yeah, I wear contacts.
Keisha (02:47):
We didn't all get LASIK.
Chantal (02:49):
Excuse me.
Yeah, I chose vision.
Okay, I chose, I want to havesuch good vision.
I want to see Jesus, and I do.
I see him every morning.
So, yeah, I think that youshould consider LASIK.
Keisha (03:00):
Maybe it's been a long enough time where I would feel
more comfortable doing it.
It's just expensive.
Chantal (03:08):
Not if you get it on Groupon, like I did.
Keisha (03:12):
I'm glad that worked out for you, but I don't trust that
, especially when it comes tomedical stuff.
Chantal (03:16):
Like I don't want to bargain get it, but it was an
esteemed facility.
Like did my thorough research,did my due diligence and I felt
the exact same way.
I was like this is very sketchthat you guys are on Groupon,
but it was a top rated LASIKsurgery centers in Austin when I
lived there at the time andthat was almost 10 years ago.
(03:39):
Can you believe it?
Next year will be 10 yearssince I had LASIK eye surgery.
Oh, wow, yeah.
Like I have on these glassesright now for, like, looking at
computers, but when I take themoff it's better.
When I don't have them I'm justwearing these glasses for, like
, the blue light or whatever youcall it, and I can maintain
into my later years.
So I'm just saying maybe not agroupon if you don't feel
(03:59):
comfortable, but I highlyrecommend considering LASIK
because it's the best thing I'veever invested in besides my dog
.
Wow, yes.
Keisha (04:09):
That was a good.
That was a good feel for LASIK.
Maybe I'll look into that fornext year.
I can't handle any more medicalprocedures this year with
(04:32):
surgery on both my feet and therecovery.
Just I never want to haveanything done to my feet again.
I need.
Chantal (04:34):
I felt so immobile and loss of independence and yeah,
and you live that is notaccessible or friendly to those
who it it is not.
Keisha (04:45):
I am so much more and I hate to be one of those people
who's like now that thishappened to me, I am so much
more aware.
I was aware of people withphysical disabilities in the
city before and, you know,always tried to be respectful.
But now I'm like ultra awarewhether it's someone who is
temporarily walking around incrutches because, oh my gosh,
(05:07):
it's one thing to be wearingthese thick ass inflexible
surgical shoes.
It's another thing to also haveto use crutches to get around
because the subway sucks forthat.
You're walking like eight milesto get to your side of the
platform.
I could go on, but we got ashow to do.
(05:27):
How has your weekend been sofar?
Chantal (05:31):
Oh, my goodness.
As you said you know how I am Ihad a fire drill this morning
at home not an actual fire drill, which would not surprise me if
that also happened.
I cannot wait to leave thisplace, but I've had a very chill
weekend to happen.
I cannot wait to leave thisplace, but I've had a very chill
weekend, I am very proud to say, before we get to the fire
drill, that happened at myapartment this weekend.
I had the pleasure ofparticipating in the Susan G
(05:52):
Komen More Than Pink Walk and itwas the honor of a lifetime to
be able to do that.
And your honor, keisha, becauseyou are a breast cancer
survivor and you are a warrior,one of the strongest people I
know.
And so me and my little pup wewalked in your honor and it was
(06:18):
emotional because I met so manysurvivors and so many women who
are dealing with the terribledisease.
But just to see the women whowere 25, 30 years on remission,
it was just beautiful to seethem in their light and their
joy, wearing their tutus andtheir pink, seeing the little
kids wearing I wear pink for mymom.
That made me cry because I sawlike a five-year-old girl who
said I'm here for you, mommy.
Her mom gave her this big hug.
(06:38):
Her mom had her hair shaved.
I was just like, wow, like thisaffects everyone of all walks
of life no-transcript and it wasjust a very, very fulfilling
(07:10):
experience.
That was really, really great.
Keisha (07:12):
That's amazing.
I'm so touched that you andCapri did that For the 10
listeners.
Capri is a toy multi-poo sohe's well.
He used to be like seven pounds.
You said he's gained a couplepounds.
Chantal (07:32):
Nine and ten pounds.
Keisha (07:34):
He's getting thick In any case, he's a little guy.
He's got little legs, lookslike a cute little blonde teddy
bear and he did the whole.
It was a 5k, right, no?
Chantal (07:45):
it was 2k 2k.
Keisha (07:47):
I was so proud I'm proud of both of you and the pictures
were adorable.
I loved his little neckerchiefthat said it said I'm walking
for my aunt I wear pink for myaunt, yeah yeah, it was adorable
he was the star.
Chantal (08:02):
I was like, oh my goodness.
And I appreciate how peopleasked can I take care of your
dog?
Can I pet your dog?
I just appreciate the decencybecause so many people will go
up to Capri and grab him and Ijust appreciate the fact that
they were being so kind.
Yes, capri was the star of theshow, as he normally is.
Keisha (08:17):
I mean, he's like a natural model.
Chantal (08:20):
He is, and you know his side eyes Whenever this one,
and he doesn't like kids.
Um, he, he cannot standchildren, so neither, neither
does ollie.
Yeah, he's like I'm the onlycute little one around here,
back up, back up, and so thislittle girl tried to hug him and
he barks at her.
He just looked at her.
I was like okay enough, he doesnot like children.
(08:43):
I will say with.
Keisha (08:45):
Ollie, I think in particular he doesn't like
toddlers.
I think it's because they havea certain energy that he senses
it's very frenetic, like youdon't know what the fuck they're
going to do.
Then go left, then go right,zigzag up down, bounce around.
They could jump on you.
I think he senses that and he'slike uh-uh, so senses that.
(09:06):
And he's like uh-uh, so he willbark.
And so I have to be careful ifwe encounter a toddler, because
I don't want them to touch himor try to touch him, and I've
had to tell, I've had likewell-mannered toddlers be like
can I pet your doggy?
I'm like you can try, but he'she's very shy and he's kind of
scared of of little, of littlekids and he's not, he's not with
(09:27):
it.
Anyway, that being said, I neverthought that I would be someone
, that someone else would walkor do any kind of, you know,
fundraising walk challenge runin my honor.
So it was kind of surreal whenyou said that you were going to
do that.
I was very touched and I alsodidn't.
(09:50):
I don't think I realized justhow much my having breast cancer
twice impacted the people in mylife who care about me and you
know you saying that you didthis walk in my honor is like a
reminder of how it impacts otherpeople, and also our sister,
(10:14):
natasha, who designed thesebeautiful resin female body
figurines and they're like inbikinis with nice bouncy boobs
and she donated them to, I think, breast cancer survivors and
(10:37):
people who are still goingthrough it, and someone sent her
a really sweet note.
Chantal (10:53):
I'll see if I can find it and ask her if she's okay
with me sharing it, because Ithought it was very lovely.
Her resins are gorgeous.
Like they're stunning the bodysculptures she does.
Keisha (11:03):
I have one in the centerpiece of my living room
and it's just gorgeous.
Oh, she said they are verygorgeous.
Um, so she sent one woman abreast cancer awareness statue.
She said she decorated the boxwith pink ribbons and tissue
paper.
She's going to use the proceedsto join and donate to the Susan
G Komen Breast Cancer AwarenessWalk in Vegas this year, which
(11:26):
is where she lives, and it issuper cute.
I'll also ask her if I can postit on our socials.
And so she got a review and itsays hello, I received my
package.
All I could do is cry thesestatues are absolutely amazing.
(11:48):
The free gift makes me believethere are still good people in
this world.
I'm going to put them ondisplay at my breast cancer
awareness event on the 16th ofoctober.
It was a pleasure doingbusiness with you.
Chantal (12:02):
Take care oh yeah, yeah , that's.
That's very special.
But to pivot to the fire drill,I woke up this morning to a
disgusting smell and it turnsout my kitchen sink is backed up
and when I went to do thegarbage the the sink disposal it
started shooting up like likethe fourth of july, and I'm
(12:24):
sorry to give you guys thatvisual, but this is what I had
to deal with this morning and Icannot, in the words of Tokyo,
tony, I cannot wait to get thefuck ASAP about here.
So yeah, that was my weekend ina nutshell, sis, how was your
weekend my?
Keisha (12:38):
weekend's been great Not as naughty as yours.
The weather this weekend hasbeen fantastic.
There's an account I follow oninstagram.
I'm, I feel, like a weatherfangirl following this account
because I'm always tellingpeople about it.
It's called ny metro weatherand it's this man who is I think
(13:04):
he is officially ameteorologist or he's just a
climate enthusiast and he juststarted providing weather
updates for the New York, newJersey, area.
And I found him on Twitter maybea year or two years ago and I
was one of, I think, maybe liketwo, three thousand followers
(13:27):
and he just would post like thewhat, like the weather in a like
, one sentence, like and talkabout the vibe.
So like, the vibes today aregood, the dew points are low,
you can go outside and walk yourdog and be happy, and he'll
give it like a rating out of 10,on a scale of 1 to 10.
(13:49):
And he said yesterday was a 10out of 10.
We still rarely get 10 out of10 days in New York, so it's
major.
So yesterday I went to the parkwith Ollie and our friends,
piper and her dog.
We walked to Prospect Park justlike, I think, like two miles
(14:13):
and just hung out in the parkand it was fun.
Chantal (14:21):
Beautiful day, dogs loved it.
Keisha (14:23):
That sounds like the perfect New York afternoon
afternoon.
I love this for you.
Yeah, we just have you know.
This is the two if we're luckytwo month window where the
weather is really good, likethis is my weather like 72,
there's a gentle breeze, the sunis is like behaving itself, not
acting like it's out to attackeveryone.
(14:45):
Yeah, so I'm gonna spend asmuch time outside the next few
weeks as I can I love that, sis.
Chantal (14:54):
Well, that leads me to my next point of let's dig into
some hot topics, shall we?
Keisha (15:02):
hot topics.
What shows us okay?
Chantal (15:11):
that leads me to my next part, and let's start the
show with some.
Today I learned well, I'm upfirst this week for today I
learned.
And today I learned thatmcdonald's is coming out with a
chicken big mac.
Did you hear about this?
Keisha (15:29):
no, what's a?
I don't understand what's.
How's it different from like achicken sandwich?
Chantal (15:37):
it literally is just taking a big mac and replacing
the beef with chicken, and I'mpretty sure this has been done
already from those who wouldlike to have this.
I just don't understand howthis is groundbreaking, because
if you wanted a chicken big mac,all you have to do is ask for a
chicken sandwich, any big mac,and just put the chicken in the
big.
I don't understand how this is.
They use the popular, populartwitch uh streamer sorry I can't
(16:01):
talk today kai sanat to promoteit and I was just like okay,
how is this news?
Keisha (16:08):
what I don't?
I don't think I've ever had abig mac.
What is special about it?
Chantal (16:12):
so it's known, because it is three buns and with three
buns you're putting you'reputting the meat in between each
of the buns and you're puttinglettuce, tomato pickles and
what's special Big Mac sauce.
And I got to say the Big Macsauce is actually tasty.
I remember one of the firsttimes I had a Big Mac sauce I
asked mom if I could have one.
(16:33):
She goes you're not eating thatbig ass burger, what do you
mean?
Like that's huge.
And it was huge and I couldn'tfinish it.
But the moment that Big Macsauce touched my lips it was an
experience I don't think I'llever forget.
But that big when you're littleand the day comes and you're
able to graduate from the kidsmeal oh, period game over.
(16:54):
So, mom, let me get a Big Mac.
And I literally will neverforget the taste of it.
And so I have not had a Big Macin years because, wow, is it a
lot of food, because I don'tneed all of that.
But I think I might go try thechicken Big Mac.
I think I might do it.
I just will not eat the entirething because that is excessive,
but the Big Mac sauce is reallygood.
Keisha (17:18):
Yeah, I don't think I've ever had this.
That's just a lot of food, likethree buns or one and a half
buns well, it's three well, yeah, two and a half buns, it's one
and a half buns.
Chantal (17:36):
Right, you said so.
You need two top of bun, top ofbun, bottom of bottom of bun
bun.
So that's three buns.
That's not three buns, that'sone, that's one and a half buns.
You mean to tell me that whenyou have a duo bun, you call it
not a one bun or you call it Ithink that is one that I think
(18:00):
that one top of a bun, that's aone bun.
What is mcdonald's called,though I don't know they call it
, they call it the big mac.
I think that one top of a bun.
That's a one bun.
What does McDonald's call that?
I don't know.
They call it the Big Mac.
How do they describe it?
They don't say they have likebuns.
They say you get a Big Mac Ifyou are going to make a
hamburger.
You have two buns.
It's not one bun.
(18:20):
Okay.
Keisha (18:23):
So technically, let's see, technically they're both
right.
They're specified as the topbun, the middle bun and the
bottom bun.
So what I said?
Yeah, so okay, big mac, greatI'm.
Chantal (18:43):
I don't care about this chicken sandwich, sorry I knew
you wouldn't, but I do so I waslike.
Keisha (18:48):
You know what I love I'm not saying like, why are you
telling me this?
I'm just saying like, I'm notgoing to go eat it.
Chantal (18:56):
I know you wouldn't.
You don't even eat McDonald's.
What Since when?
I don't think I've seen you eatMcDonald's in years.
When do you?
Keisha (19:04):
eat.
Mcdonald's I ate McDonald'swith you last Halloween when we
came home from that party.
Chantal (19:10):
Again.
What was that a year ago?
Keisha (19:16):
Have you had mcdonald's since?
Yes, I actually had mcdonald'son thursday night I'm not proud
of this.
Chantal (19:19):
I mean, sometimes you just gotta go to mickey d's.
My version of mickey d's istaco bell.
Taco bell has had me in achokehold since I was a little
girl.
Yes, I'm aware.
Oh, I love me a good taco bell.
Oh, it will never get old.
What did fergie say?
I still go to taco bell.
Drive through raw's hill, Idon't care, I'm still real, no
(19:39):
matter how many records I sell.
Okay, I love me some taco bell,okay.
So what about you, sis?
What did you learn?
Okay?
Keisha (19:50):
I learned from my rewatch of Modern Family and
maybe you knew this that theorigin of Goop the name of
Gwyneth Paltrow's company isbased on added two O's.
Because Peter Amell told hersuccessful internet companies
(20:25):
have double O's in their nameand she wanted a name, a word,
that could mean anything or itcould mean nothing.
So she added the double obetween her initials and that is
how she came up with the namegoop did you know.
Chantal (20:42):
That's why she came up with that yeah you're not
impressed?
No, but good for her.
It's a catchy name.
I gotta say who.
I think it sounds gross, but itjust does.
It reminds me of sounds gross,but it just reminds me of the
Nickelodeon slime.
It reminds me of boogers.
That's disgusting, but good forher.
(21:03):
She's a billionaire, right?
She's like a billionaire, soshe's getting her money some way
.
Oh, I don't know.
I do think she retired fromacting and it's just Wow, okay,
so hard for acting, and it'sjust, I actually was an actress,
wow, um, okay.
Keisha (21:18):
So now that we're both that much more well informed,
why don't we move on to pop andjen.
Chantal (21:28):
All righty, first up this week in our pop and j quick
hits.
All right, let's do this.
Did you hear about the Grandaand Maggie Smith past?
And she's iconic.
She is iconic.
I was really sad to hear that.
Keisha (21:50):
She was 89, which is a good.
I mean mean that's a good longlife she and she had.
She had some roles that willlook down in history
cinematically and whatever you,whatever the television version
of that word is.
One of my favorite roles thatshe's taken on was playing the
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Dowager Countess Grandmama onDownton Abbey.
She, queen of the one, thecutting, biting, shady
one-liners oh, just fabulous.
Love her in that.
How about?
Chantal (22:31):
you.
I mean I love her.
I was introduced to her in 2001in Harry Potter.
You know I'm a Harry Pottergirly, so, um, seeing her in
that, she was just so endearingand protective of Harry in the
in the movie and she just seemedlike this motherly figure, um,
and she just was just.
I know her career spans decadesbefore that, but that's what
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how I was introduced to her.
But yeah, she was a delight andI loved her accent, like I know
she.
You know people in the UK theyhave all different variations of
accents, but hers was just sodemanding and just her presence
and just yeah.
So she had a storied career andmay she rest in peace.
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One thing I will say peoplereally grind my gears when they
say gone too soon when it comesto someone who was like 95.
Like when James Earl Jones died, they were like you said this
last week or last episode.
I know, but I'm gonna say itagain because they said it.
May she rest in peace, but gonetoo-.
What do you mean?
Gone too soon, just like?
(23:34):
Are we for real?
I just will never understand it.
So that's just what grinds mygears Gone too soon.
Keisha (23:41):
Also, I wonder like how did if those people were still
alive?
How did they feel about stillbeing alive at this point?
Were they still enjoying theirlife?
Because that's really whatmatters.
Chantal (23:52):
I feel like Cicely Tyson when she passed she was
like finally.
Keisha (23:56):
Yeah, she was like I've done all the things.
Chantal (23:59):
Like what is there left to do?
Yeah, so rest in peace to theseicons.
Speaking of rest in peace, wealso lost John Amos, and so RIP.
Keisha (24:12):
Yeah, so I found out about this through.
We have an ERG at work employeeresource group for the Black
employees and their allies, Iguess, and someone posted that
John Amos died and that heapparently died over a month ago
(24:33):
.
And that he apparently diedover a month ago.
But we're just finding out and,more egregiously, some of his
family is just finding out andthere's just a lot of mystery
surrounding his death, includingallegations of elder abuse, so
I don't know what was going on.
I believe he was 83 when hedied.
(24:54):
I hope that he had a good lifeand I hope that there was
nothing suspicious about hisdeath and I appreciate his
contributions to television,film and I know he inspired so
many actors' generations.
Chantal (25:15):
Yeah, what a legend, what an icon.
May he rest in peace as well.
Keisha (25:19):
Indeed, did you hear that Ryan Murphy, like the
internet is not working, he hasa new legal drama coming out
starring Glenn Close and NiecyNash.
Starring Glenn Close and NiecyNash, tiana Taylor, naomi Watts
and apparently Kim K and Ibelieve Kim K also was in Ryan
(25:42):
Murphy's American Horror Stories.
I don't watch that, it's toogruesome for me, but he likes
her and asks for her in thislegal drama that is called all's
fair and she's apparently goingto have like a significant role
(26:03):
in this series which like wow,I guess she really is like
cementing her status as anactress, because this is a heavy
hitter cast.
This is not like like glennclose, sarah paulson, nisi nash.
These are not like chumps, like.
These actresses are esteemedand super talented.
Chantal (26:23):
So we'll see if the show is good I mean, I think
that it makes sense because sheis a legal girly.
I don't know, she's in lawschool.
I think she didn't pass the bar.
I don't know she did pass thebar, oh, she did, so she's a
lawyer.
Keisha (26:37):
Wait, did she pass the bar?
I thought she finally passed it.
Chantal (26:41):
I don't think she did, because we would know if she was
a lawyer.
Yeah, I think she didn't passit, so she's taking the test
again.
I could be wrong, but I feellike we would have heard if she
became a lawyer, it wouldn'thave been big news because she
would have proved billion, ha,ha, suckers, because good for
her.
I think that it makes sense,ryan Murphy, when he you are
part of his universe, you are apart of it forever.
(27:01):
Ie, niecy Nash, sarah Paulsonthey go together with Ryan
Murphy real bad, and it justmakes sense.
So I had to see that.
Did you hear about the otherone that he's coming up with,
where story is going to starJeremy Pope and Anthony Ramos,
where there is a STI that makesyou beautiful?
Wait, what is this called?
(27:22):
It is called Let Me Get In.
I don't know what the name is.
I just saw it online and I waslike what the hell is happening.
Keisha (27:29):
Isn't that show the Substance?
No, or is that something else?
Chantal (27:33):
That's something completely different.
That's not the same, but it'sstarring anthony ramos.
Ramos gives me and jeremy pope,but it's basically going to be
about when you get an sti, howit beautifies you and I don't
know.
I don't know.
Ryan murphy has a sick head.
I would like to work with himone day, so I'm not gonna say
(27:54):
too much about him.
But yes, that is.
That is what it's going to beabout all right, like I said,
the man stayed busy, booked andbusy.
Keisha (28:04):
Okay, don't play with him because he's gonna and I,
yeah, I agree.
I looked it up and Kim passedthe baby bar.
I am not really sure what thatis, so she passed something.
Anyway.
Have you seen connie chung backon the scene promoting her new
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book, her memoir?
Chantal (28:31):
you're gonna be mad at me, but I don't know who connie
chung is that's amazing I haveno clue who that is oh my gosh.
Keisha (28:43):
So connie chung is, she's kind of like the chinese
barbara walters.
Chantal (28:53):
So she's Maury's wife.
Keisha (28:56):
Yeah, she's Maury Povich's wife.
Are you kidding?
Maury Povich is her husband.
They've been married forever.
Chantal (29:03):
What Are you kidding?
Okay, I know who this is.
Didn't she have a talk show?
Keisha (29:09):
I don't know that she had a talk show, but she had a
news show.
Chantal (29:13):
She's a journalist, oh yes, okay, I know's a journalist
.
Oh, yes, okay, I know who sheis.
Oh my gosh, she's married toMar-.
Oh, this is it.
This is an amazing dynamic.
Keisha (29:23):
This is what gets you to know who she is.
Chantal (29:26):
Oh my gosh, that is so cool.
What a power couple Wow.
Keisha (29:31):
And they seem you know, you don't know what goes on
people's personal lives, butthey seem like they really love
each other.
Chantal (29:36):
I'm sorry, but if you go to her Instagram, the first
thing that pops up is hertalking about something, and the
quotations say I could see thesperm swimming in their eyes.
What the hell is Connie?
Keisha (29:50):
That's funny.
Chantal (29:56):
OK, connie, all right.
No, I didn't see that.
But am I going to go read it?
Probably not, because you knowI haven't been a reader in a few
years, but I might listen to it.
Keisha (30:00):
well, I'm sure I mean I'm not.
This is not really about herbook.
I'm, you know, mentioning thatshe's back on the scene because
she's promoting the memoir.
I don't know if I will read iteither, but that's because I
haven't been reading anything.
But what I also wanted to pointout is because she's so iconic
as a groundbreaking femalejournalist in a time when it was
(30:25):
really difficult for women tobe treated seriously and to
ascend.
She, of course, made animpression on many people in
Asian communities, especiallyChinese, and there is a
generation, called GenerationConnie, of Asian girls and women
(30:47):
who were named after ConnieChung, and there's a picture of
her with them, some of them inthis New York Times article that
I linked and also, I think, onher Instagram, and it's just so
touching.
It's like it just shows thepower again not to be cliche of
representation, because some ofthese girls named Connie are
(31:09):
also journalists now, becausethey took it seriously that they
were named after her, so justthought that was cool I love
that.
Chantal (31:20):
Good for her go.
Keisha (31:21):
Connie chung yeah, well, geez, that's quite the roundup
this week, sis speaking ofpeople, back on the scene,
jaleel white of family mattersfame.
Most people probably know himby his character's name, erkel,
steve Erkel.
He wrote a memoir calledGrowing Up Erkel which is being
released on November 19th, andhe was on the talk talking about
(31:50):
his time growing up inHollywood and being a child star
and being so recognizable asUrkel and that being like
sticking with him for decades.
And he said again, speaking ofrepresentation, he would have
black men.
He said black men.
Actually any man who woreglasses would come up to me and
(32:13):
say you know, man, you wearingglasses made it easier for me to
wear glasses when I was growingup because it made it cool.
I was like, yeah, you justnever know who you're impacting.
Chantal (32:28):
That's dope.
I mean, did I do that?
Everyone says that I willrandomly bust out saying that,
so his impact is very, verystrong.
Yeah, iconic, iconic, I lovethat.
Keisha (32:44):
So for a Jen part of Poppin' Jen, I came across this
article in Upworthy I likeUpworthy because it tends to be
positive news and it says peopleborn before 1990 are sharing
their now useless but 100%nostalgic skills.
(33:05):
And since you were just on thecusp of that, I wanted to go
through a couple of these andsee if you know anything that
I've been talking about Makingbrown paper bag book covers.
Did you ever make a brown paperbag book cover?
Oh yeah, we had to do thatbecause we had to have book
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covers and they weren't justlike go on Amazon, order some
book cover, so people would makethem and then decorate them.
Chantal (33:38):
Why do you need a book cover?
Keisha (33:40):
Because you don't own the books that you get during
the school year.
They're borrowed and you don'twant to damage them.
Chantal (33:47):
Oh, I'm kidding.
Yeah, we did.
We did the stretchy ones.
We had the fabric.
We didn't have the paper bags.
We had the stretchy fabric.
We had the fabric.
We didn't have the paper.
Keisha (33:53):
We didn't have the paper bags with a stretchy fabric for
our books.
So you had a book cover but youdidn't have, like, the grocery
bag that you cut apart and foldinto.
Yeah, it was basically like anarts and craft that is so good?
Oh no, we did not do that hey,we were doing what, we were
(34:15):
doing the best we could why Iwould use wrapping paper before
I used.
Uh, some people did, butwrapping paper rips too easily,
like.
Think about it if you'reputting, like, several books in
your backpack that are wrappedwith wrapping paper, that's
gonna tear like, tear, like mypaper bag is sturdier, anyway,
(34:38):
how about do you memorize phonenumbers?
Chantal (34:44):
I used to.
I know every one of myimmediate family's phone number,
but anyone outside of it sorry,I don't know your phone number
Because I just in case ofemergency, like I, have to
remember y'all's phone numbers.
Keisha (34:53):
I don't know your phone number Because I just in case of
emergency, like I have toremember y'all's phone numbers
and do you think the fact thatmost of us have had these phone
numbers for probably 20 years?
Chantal (35:04):
helps with that?
Absolutely, because none of uschange our phone numbers.
So I've had the same phonenumber for 17 years, so I'm
never changing it If I got a newphone phone number.
Keisha (35:16):
Do you think that you memorize it?
No one more.
Did you ever make a mixtapefrom a radio?
Chantal (35:27):
no, but I did do it for voicemails or voicemails what
do you mean?
I like I would do like remix,like yo yo, yo, yo.
It's Chantal, thanks, sorry Imissed your call and I would
have music play in thebackground, like it could be.
Like you know music playing, Idon't know, I would just remix
music.
That's not the same thing.
(35:49):
Well, it's a version of it.
How, what was?
It's a version of it.
How is that a version of it?
You're?
Keisha (35:59):
making it.
You're making a remix like amixtape.
You're not.
A mixtape is not a remix.
You don't have a, do you?
Chantal (36:03):
know what a mixtape is.
Yeah, I didn't mix, I didn't doa mixtape, I just did.
I did like if I had a crush onsomeone or whatever.
I did lime wire, I'm a limewire, limewire era.
Keisha (36:14):
So that's my point you did not have to.
You don't remember listening tothe radio, waiting for a
particular song to play and thenpressing record on either a
cassette player or a cassetterecorder, or a, if you were
lucky enough to have a burner no, that was amazing amazing the
(36:43):
daytime chat show on cbs.
They had hosts fill in for akbarthis week, different hosts each
day.
They had tabitha brown Brown,they had Yvette Nicole Brown
Unrelated as far as I know andthey had Ariana Maddox.
When I saw her on I was likethis is starting to become a
(37:07):
really big running joke on thispodcast because she literally is
everywhere and I was just like,well, I can't not bring it up.
Chantal (37:17):
So that was it.
Congrats to you.
But Nicole Brown, tabitha Brown, so happy for them, love them.
I want nothing but the best forthem and congratulations to
them on co-hosting the talk.
Keisha (37:28):
That's super huge let's see how it is very happy for
those two I love it.
Chantal (37:35):
I want them to do nothing but great everyone did
very well and look beautiful.
I'll leave that in time withthe.
They can do no wrong, love them.
Well, that's fun.
I love that.
Well, that's quite the roundupthis week, sis.
Now let's get into some pop andJen deep dive.
Keisha (37:59):
I just have one deep dive.
This week we kind of talkedabout this outside the podcast.
I want to talk about fashiontrends and how they skew toward
the youngest generation.
So like whatever Gen Alpha youknow the big 14, 0 to 14, I
(38:25):
think that's Gen Alpha Whateverthey're wearing is considered
like the coolest cutting edge.
They somehow lead trendsfollowed by gen z and then
millennials, and then likeanyone else is just not cool.
Like clothing, most clothingdesigners are not checking for
us, they're not designing for us, they're not trying to market
(38:46):
towards us pandemic.
I like don't know how to dressanymore.
We came out of the pandemic andthere's a lot of like leisure,
like athleisure and comfortstuff, sweatpants, and I like
(39:13):
you you probably would agreewith this I was raised.
We don't wear like sweatpantsand stuff out in public, so it
really took a while for me tocome around like and just let go
of the like.
This is just as like a randomsocial construct that you don't
have to adhere to, and I stilldon't really wear sweatpants
(39:34):
unless I'm like quickly runningto the grocery store.
But anyway, crop tops are a bigthing again and everything is
cropped.
Jackets are cropped, shirts arecropped, button down shirts are
cropped and like.
I have had a battle with mywaistline for most of my like
(39:58):
life, since I was aware that Ihad a waistline and I wore crop
tops when they were popular inlike the late 90s and the early
2000s, when I was okay with mywaistline especially when I lost
my college 15 or freshman 15.
I would wear crop tops.
(40:20):
I had a lot more confidence, Ithink, when I was younger.
As I got older I just becamemore self-conscious and now it
just kind of like I don't thinkyou should have a limit on age
as far as what you can wear, butit just feels kind of weird to
like wear a crop top again.
I don't know, how do you feel?
Chantal (40:41):
I love crop tops.
I'm wearing two crop things.
I know you love a crop top andI think it's great.
I love crop tops.
I lost a lot of weight thispast year, and so I'm now having
a new relation with my body,something that I didn't ever
think I could do, and so I'vejust embraced this new part of
me, and I love crop.
It makes me feel sexy, but evenbefore you all saw this weight.
Keisha (41:04):
You were wearing crop tops and I applaud you for being
comfortable wearing things thatI personally don't feel
comfortable wearing because Ijust in my head, yeah, I get it,
I get it.
Chantal (41:16):
I think I just was just like I'm wearing this for me,
like I'm wearing it because itmakes me feel comfortable, it
makes me feel sexy, it makes meI think that from the perception
for other people, like I usedto dress for the people, but now
I dress for me, I dress for mycomfortability, I dress for my
ease, I dress what makes me feel, you know, good in my body.
And when I wear crop tops, Idon't know, I just sound like so
(41:39):
badass about it and wearinglike crop top and baggy jeans or
baggy sweatpants, like I amgoing to run errands after this,
and I'm just like, okay, I'mgoing to wear my crops.
To your point, I cringe if Ieven go to the mailbox in
sweatpants because I just hearmom in my head being like girl,
where the hell are you going?
So that's something that Istill deal with internally.
(41:59):
But I'm going to wear crop topand baggy jeans going to the
store, and so I just find I loveit To your point.
This is literally my like croptop, everything that's my
aesthetic, everything thatyou're just being done with On a
daily basis.
In Los Angeles, people wearnothing.
People don't wear clothes inLos Angeles and you walk out in
(42:20):
a bra and leggings.
That will never be me.
I just think there's just somelevels of just like I don't know
decency.
I don't know.
I just feel like that's where Idraw the line.
You'll never see me outsidewith a sports bra, but yeah, I
think that it's just I don'tknow.
I see you feel very comfortableand I think it's the way you
wear the crop top and baggypants can be very sexy and cute.
Okay, so you're pro crop?
Keisha (42:39):
tops and baggy pants.
Where do you stand on socks andthe height of socks?
Chantal (42:46):
there's a debate over literally whoever they're
talking shit about.
They're talking shit about mebecause I wear the leggings with
little socks, all all the wayup and with my sneakers.
That's me Like up to where Likemid-calf ankle Up to your ankle
Like you're past the ankle,okay, Because I think now people
(43:09):
are talking about mid-calf.
Keisha (43:12):
That's a bit too far, Like it just keeps going a
little bit higher, a little bithigher.
Chantal (43:16):
Stockings.
You're wearing goddamnstockings.
It's no longer socks.
That's ridiculous.
Put some damn stockings on andcall it a day.
That's too high, like rightunder the calf, is where I stop.
Keisha (43:27):
Okay, yeah, I think those are ankle socks.
Chantal (43:32):
Yeah, ankle socks.
So I wear those because I am agym girly now and I go to the
gym, I wear my leggings and Iwear my ankle socks.
Yoo-hoo, it's really cute.
It's so, la, and I used to bethe one who judged those girlies
, but now I am that girly, soI've embraced it.
Keisha (43:49):
As you know, I also lost a significant amount of weight
this year and I'm feeling good,or better, about my body working
out as well.
And I bought, I ordered, someexercise crop tops.
I'm going to dip my toe back inthe crop top water with the
exercise, with the fitness wear.
Chantal (44:13):
I love that.
I just love fitness wear.
It just makes me feelcomfortable.
But especially when it's cuteand it doesn't look crazy like I
.
I like that cute.
I like when the girlies wear,like the, the sports bra with
the leggings but they have thejacket over it.
That's cute.
But when I see who will justbra out at the grocery store,
I'm like can you save somethingfor?
Like illusion?
I don't know, I just feel likeyou're not the gym right now.
(44:35):
What are we doing?
Keisha (44:37):
I just really applaud their boldness and their
confidence.
Chantal (44:42):
Girl, I can see her.
I can see her.
Areolas, Like that's what Imean, Not the girls who are just
like, oh, I have to run, butlike the ones who literally got
the doubt, Got the goods on fulldisplay.
You don't want to see areolanext to the mangoes, I know I
would like to get my peacewithout seeing your titties, and
that that's all I have to say.
Put more power to you.
(45:04):
Woman, girl empowerment I'm notsaying that at all.
Love who you are, embrace yourbody.
But there just are some looksthat we just have to take into
consideration.
Keisha (45:14):
I don't know if I agree, but I do think that I can see
how it's jarring.
You go to the grocery store andyou're like I have to take care
of the wall.
I'm just going to pick up somecoffee beans and then veg.
Before we wrap up this segment,I wanted to ask if you remember
, speaking of trends, repeatingcrop tops, doc martens, are huge
(45:38):
now you always talk about thisthey have.
Chantal (45:40):
They're gonna keep going back.
They're gonna keepre-regurgitating, resurging.
You haven't regurgitating.
I meant to say resurging.
You know what the hell I meant.
You always talk about doc martand what do about, like what's
the story behind it?
They're researching and newpeople are discovering them.
They're timeless shoes.
Keisha (46:01):
That's not okay.
That's not where this is going.
Excuse me know-it-all.
Remember when you came to visitme when I lived in LA, walking
down Melrose and they have a DocMartens store, and this was
like 20 years ago, I think, andyou were like it's like 16 years
ago okay like that's reallythat much difference.
(46:23):
Four years you're aging us okay,16 years ago, or walking down
Melrose, they have a dedicatedDoc Martens store and you were
like you really want Doc Martensand you hope that you get some.
I think you wanted some forChristmas or your birthday and
you were like, like everyone iswearing these and you're saying
it to me like you were schoolingme on something.
(46:43):
And I was like, yeah, I went tohigh school in the 90s and I
was into the grunge scene andI'm very familiar with Doc
Martens, even though I never hada pair because they're so
expensive.
And you were like like, youwere just so like floored by
this information.
So I always think about thatwhen I see like the
regurgitation of Doc Martenswell, I love Doc Martens.
Chantal (47:08):
I have yet to own a pair.
I've worn some before, butthey're also very heavy shoes to
wear, like you have to reallybreak them in, so I think that's
why I don't own them, butthey're really cute.
Well, great stuff this week.
As always, it's time for ourlast segment on our screens and
through our earphones.
Okay, so I'm starting withwhat's on my screen lately and I
(47:35):
just have two quick hints.
My first one is Nobody Wantsthis, starring Kristen Bell and
Adam Brody.
It is a 10, I think it's anepisode series about this two
people who meet each other andthey just have this spark.
This guy, adam Brody'scharacter, just came out of a
long-term relationship and youjust see what clear
(47:57):
communication looks like.
You see what it's like for themto be very direct, very
understanding of each other,what it's like to know what you
want and being of a certain ageand a certain place in your
career and not beating aroundthe bush.
And as someone who's currentlydating, I just found it was very
, very, very reassuring andbeautiful to see that.
Okay, this is something thatexists and that people are
(48:19):
talking about, and I just thinkthat one the humor is hilarious.
I think the banter betweenKristen Bell she's a delight in
this show.
Even her husband, dak Shepard,said that the chemistry between
her and Anna Brody was reallyinsane.
But yeah, I really like thisshow and I hope there's a season
two what made you want to watchthis?
Keisha (48:38):
Netflix suggested it.
It just doesn't seem like yourusual show that you would choose
.
Chantal (48:47):
I just kept hearing people talk about it and I was
like, oh, okay, well, what isthis show people keep talking
about?
And then I watched the firstepisode.
It helps you immediatelybecause Kirsten Bell is a
comedic queen.
Like she is really really funnyand she's really good at this.
Just the comedic timing is justreally good.
So it helped me and, as aCapricorn with ADHD, you have
about five minutes to get myattention and out the bat
(49:11):
swinging the show.
Just it captures you and sothat's what did it for me.
It was suggested it was ratedlike number one or two.
Hey, I was like, oh, let mecheck it out.
And it immediately got my, gotmy attention and I watched, I
binge, watched it in one day, oh, and I even watched it again.
Keisha (49:29):
So yeah, it's really good.
You sold me when you told methat there was some comedy
involved.
I should have known because ofAdam Brody, but yeah, it sounds
great.
I am going to check that out.
I saw them being interviewed, Ithink on like Access Hollywood,
and they were reading tweets orI don't know what they call
(49:51):
them on X now Shitters, I don'tknow.
They were reading them fromfans and one woman was like 20
years ago I was watching AdamBrody and crushing on him on the
OC.
And here I am 20 years later,at 34, crushing on Adam Brody in
(50:12):
a Netflix show.
Chantal (50:14):
And he looks great.
They both look fantastic, hedoes.
Yeah, they do.
Early 30s both of them.
So good for them for keepingthat fountain of youth and
staying unproblematic.
That's what happens when you'rean unproblematic white person.
God lets you age gracefully, sogood for them.
And then my second show that I'mwatching is Love is Blind,
season seven.
Just when I think each seasongets more unhinged, no, we see
(50:37):
the biggest narcissistgaslighter ever on this season.
His name is Leo.
He's insane.
He, I'm convinced he murderedhis family.
He lost his mom, dad andgrandma in a matter of like two
years.
But like he keeps on talkingabout the fact that he has a
Rolex, he has so much money thatthe woman he dates he doesn't
want them to to want him for hismoney.
And I'm like, I'm convinced youkilled your family.
(50:59):
And then there is this 26 yearold girl named Hannah, who is
also just not ready to date andI don't think she should be for
you.
But we have a beautiful amountof Black representation in this
season and I am obsessed withthe end result of who ends up
(51:22):
together.
It's only six episodes in andit's going to have another
series of episodes released nextweek Well, this week actually
and so we'll be able to see themunfold like unfold on their
honeymoon after getting married,but yes, it is so so good.
Oh, not getting married, butgetting engaged, but yes, it's
so good.
(51:43):
This season keeps you on yourtoes and, yeah, whoever does the
casting for this show does afantastic job.
Do you think they've hadlawsuits?
This season is really good.
Oh, okay, that's my season,because I actually it was a
season I didn't give a damnabout.
All right, let's clarify.
This season the casting isfantastic, really good, great,
(52:04):
mainly because there's multipleBlack people.
That's why I said that.
Excuse me, am I worthy?
Am I going to be loved?
Girl, you are so worthy andyou're a badass bitch and you
deserve nothing but good things.
And you don't have to be upsetthis season, because I'm very
pleased with how the black girlsare treated.
This season I will say thatGirl.
Well, yeah, that's what's gotmy attention lately.
(52:24):
How about you Keish?
Keisha (52:26):
I have one main show that captured my attention, or I
shouldn't say show.
It's a documentary on Netflixcalled Love on the Run.
It's about the correctionsofficer, vicki White, who helped
the prisoner, casey Whiteescape, and I first heard about
(52:47):
this story it took place in 2022, or like the main event took
place in 2022 and in 2022, themain event took place in 2022,
the Escape.
I heard about it through aLifetime movie.
I don't remember hearing aboutit in the news and the Lifetime
movie was pretty good.
I think it starred WendyMcClendon-Covey Wendy
(53:07):
McClendon-Covey, I think, is howyou say her name.
Anyway, so the story is VickiWhite.
She's a like a lonely,unassuming, middle-aged
corrections officer in Alabama.
She is a star employee at thisdetention center.
She's been there for like 20years and she falls in love with
this sounds like sociopathicman, casey White, who's 10 years
(53:31):
younger than she and had arecord since Judy, or since he
was a juvenile and as an adulthe was charged with shooting at
his girlfriend and killing herdog in the process, and he I
think he was already convictedfor something else in serving 75
(53:51):
years and then he was at thedetention center to face charges
for killing the dog and forattempted murder.
So they fell in love.
I don't know how he felt.
I think he's a sociopath, so Idon't think he felt anything.
I think he conned her and shehelped him escape.
Chantal (54:10):
Yeah, I thought this was wild and yeah, that was a
crazy story, ooh insane.
I could have gone my whole lifewithout hearing the math on sex
.
Keisha (54:19):
that was oh yeah, that oh my god, because they, you
know of course they're listeningin if they're making calls from
the, from the jail yeah, yuckit just kind of goes back to
what we talked about when wewere talking about how to die
alone and loneliness.
People will do sometimes havecompanionship.
Chantal (54:41):
Yeah, and look what ended up happening.
So sad.
Don't spoil it, they'll see,they watch it yeah, it was.
Keisha (54:50):
It was good it was.
It's easy to consumedocumentary.
Thought they did a good job.
And then I just want to give ashout out real quick to I'm
catching up on Abbott Elementary.
So I finished season threebecause I had some episodes to
catch up on.
I love the episodes Smoking andParty.
I think they're probably liketop five.
So shout out to AbbottElementary, can't wait for
(55:11):
season four, watch it.
So shout out to Aper Elementary, can't wait for season 4, watch
it.
Alright, let's move on tosounds through our earpuds.
What you got did I say earpuds,I meant earbuds through our
earbuds what you got this week,sis, I'll tell you.
Chantal (55:29):
I'm listening to our Victoria Monet and Sabrina
Carpenter.
Victoria Monet just came outwith a deluxe album.
It's fantastic.
I love her.
And Sabrina Carpenter.
Victoria Monet just came outwith a deluxe album.
It's fantastic.
I love her and SabrinaCarpenter.
I listened to it because I feellike she's everywhere and I was
forced to listen to her, butshe's actually really, really
talented and really good.
I'm obsessed with Bed Kim.
I think it's fantastic.
I will die on this.
That is an interpolation of soInto you by Tamia.
(55:52):
So interpolation of so Into youby Tamia.
So shout out to her payingtribute to R&B icon.
But yes, that's what I listento Now on repeat.
I love my R&B and pop girlies.
They're really taking over and,yes, that's what I've got this
week and they are so, so, so, sogood.
Keisha (56:10):
Did you listen to the whole sweet and sour album
Serena Carpenter?
Chantal (56:18):
not all of it.
I'm still going through itbecause I keep repeating the
same songs over and over again,so I haven't gotten through all
of it.
Keisha (56:23):
A co-worker recommended Juno and Coincidence, I believe,
was the song oh, I like Juno.
That's a good one it's a veryeclectic album.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Chantal (56:34):
She's a very talented, you can tell I.
I appreciate that, thank you.
She's buried out.
You can tell us her up in thechurch or has some type of r&b
inspiration, because she gets it.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'mlistening to.
What about you?
Keisha (56:44):
sis, I've been kind of musically disinterested lately.
Even when I turn on, when Iopen the serious app, I feel
like all the stations I I knowall the songs, even the new ones
like, please play something new, new anyway.
So podcasts for me.
This roundup higher learning isa podcast I listen to regularly
(57:06):
the host for van lathan andrachel lindsey.
They are two black eldermillennials and van has a sister
who's a lesbian and I thoughtit was really interesting.
They were talking about Boosieand how he has a lesbian adult
daughter who he says he lovesbut he hates her sin and doesn't
(57:29):
want to have her around heryounger siblings.
To infect them with her sinfullifestyle is trash.
So they started talking abouthow sad it is when parents treat
their children like that whoare part of the LGBT community.
(57:50):
And Van's father passed awaythe year after, or 2021 I think,
and he has mixed feelings abouthis dad.
But ultimately he reveres hisdad and he said you know, I
don't know how my dad and mysister related with her being a
lesbian and my dad having veryconcert like socially
(58:13):
conservative viewpoints as ablack man, and Rachel is like
why don't you call her and askher?
So they call her.
Her name is Ebony and they sayEbony, just so you know you're
on the podcast.
And Dan's like hey, sis, andthey do the usual like sibling,
like you, suck, fuck you, blah,blah, blah.
How did dad, how did dadrespond to you being a lesbian?
(58:39):
And it was a very heartfelt,like unplanned and impromptu,
like two minute vulnerabilityspill where she said basically
that she knows that he loved herbut he did not want to
acknowledge that part of her.
He didn't want to spend timewith her partner.
(59:02):
Her partner had children, herlongtime partner had children.
He didn't want to meet them, hedidn't want her to talk about
them, he didn't want her to talkabout dating.
And she said she just learnedto like shut that part of her
life off.
And she said I loved him but itwas very complicated and I
could tell that really like hurtVan to hear about his dad.
(59:25):
But I think it also speaks tohow different relationships
siblings can have with theirparents.
So shout out to them.
Highly recommend it.
It's the episode, I think, fromMonday, the 29th of September,
and then also my last one is Ifinally listened to Giggly Squad
(59:48):
.
I talked about that podcast inthe last episode.
It's Hannah Barner and PaigeDeSorbo's podcast that is very
successful is taken on the roadand apparently they do really
well because they sell out.
It's fun.
I really enjoy it.
But oh my god, I caught a straywhen they were talking about
because they talk about allkinds of random stuff.
(01:00:10):
They said yeah, you know,sometimes like my mom says funny
things, like mom say thingslike they, like they answer the
phone and they say this is sheand they're like who says that?
I was like.
Oh my god.
I say that is that I'm notanyone's mom, but I am mom age.
(01:00:30):
Like is that a mom thing?
I was just raised like that's.
If someone calls and asks me, Isay this is she what do other
people say?
very common, so don't feel badis it just the younger like that
?
Chantal (01:00:45):
I think they're.
I think it's a very commonthing.
I don't think it has anythingto do with moms.
I think they just probablyassociate it with their moms
because they don't do itthemselves.
But I say that myself.
Keisha (01:00:54):
So I know you do, because I feel like we're just
taught to have manners likeabout certain you know cultural
niceties.
So anyway, I'm still gonna.
I'm still gonna listen andwatch, because it's a visual
podcast, but like, oh no, sothose are my two for this week.
Chantal (01:01:15):
Oh fun.
So much fantastic things tolisten to and to watch.
I don't know how I found timeto get to it all, but I'm going
to try.
All right, y'all.
And with that we're at the endagain.
Sadly, it's time to say goodbye, but we'll be back in two weeks
(01:01:36):
.
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Bye, love you sis Love, you sis Outro Music.
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