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December 12, 2024 46 mins

Sometimes life falls apart all at once: a business partnership doesn’t work out, the products don’t arrive from production on the day of your store’s grand opening, and you reach a breaking point where you feel like grabbing a bat and smashing everything around you. And yet, all of this can become the foundation of a successful business.


In this episode, Isaac interviews Ibrahim Abudyak, the founder and creative director of Jokes Aside and co-founder and creative director of Smash Room.

Discover the bold street style that Ibrahim celebrates through his brand, Jokes Aside. And if you’re looking to release some emotions, check out Smash Room!


This podcast is presented by Fortis

We offer you POS and CRM solutions that we made specially for small business needs. It’s easy to start with, it combines everything you need in a small device so you save precious space, and it helps to work with clients personally – the way only small businesses can. 


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Production by Hatch Up Podcasts

Showrunners&editors — Alexandra Volkova, Elena Volkova

Host — Isaac Dalonin

Fortis Consultant — Jean-Philippe Serhal

Producer — Darya Sannikova

Sound designer and Composer – Ksenia Kazantseva

Cover Illustrator — Dina Sami

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