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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Crying in my jacuzzi.
Crying in my jacuzzi.
Crying in my jacuzzi, crying inmy jacuzzi.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I first learned about
the undulating, wobbly,
illusory nature of security whenI was an activist planning and
executing disruptions of electedofficials or government
appointees or other power-hungrymegalomaniacs who felt that
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like they could play with thelives of others and so we would
disrupt them at public, privateevents that we managed to get
into one way or another.
We had our methods.
So I learned this not just fromexperience, but by watching my
mentors, the people I workedwith and worked for, especially
especially Medea Benjamin.
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She's this tiny, seeminglyunassuming little white lady and
she could just slip in anywhereand once in she would fly under
the radar until the perfectmoment when she would stand up
correctly, accuse whomever ofbeing a war criminal and then
get dragged out.
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I once watched her weave rightthrough a line of mounted police
coming towards us Big horses,big cloppy feet, angry police
people shouting, screaming andshe just squeezed right through
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and around them completelyunnoticed, moments later inside
the event was disrupting johnmccain or whomever it was at the
time.
It was then and around that timethat I realized security isn't
as solid as it seems and, yes, Ifully acknowledge that my
whiteness played a role in thatrealization.
In the way that I had thatrealization.
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I learned how to blend in, howto pretend I was busy on my
phone, how to walk past securitycheckpoints with a
well-practiced air ofentitlement.
And look, I probably alreadyhad that entitlement.
But I learned how to use thatprivilege and perform it and
leverage that conditioning thattold me, that unearned
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conditioning that told me Ibelonged anywhere I wanted to be
.
And from that vantage point Isaw that security, safety, all
the structures that we bow toand are taught to bow to, were
illusions and were performancesor had an illusory nature to
them, had a performance-likenature to them.
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This was all around the time ofthe color-coded terror alerts,
the same ones that inspired thename Code Pink, the group I
worked with forever, where I metMedea, where I cut my teeth as
an activist, and those alertswere supposed to help people
gauge their level of safety, butin reality they were about
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control and I think they numbedthe public, confused the notion
of security, numbed people'squestioning of authority,
because they were being dictatedto when they should feel safe
or unsafe.
And you've probably heard metalk about how, in a supremacist
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culture, comfort is oftenmistaken for safety.
And we also have to hold that.
Many people, many populationshave never truly had the option
of safety, the experience ofsafety, and as one of the patron
saints of the jacuzzi verse,pema Chodron, reminds us,
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reality is inherently uncertain,unstable, insecure, and instead
of learning how to exist withinthat uncertainty, we try to
construct a false sense ofsecurity.
And in a consumerist culture,when we're conditioned to be
better and better consumers, Ifeel like a commercial we become
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easy targets, marketed to, solda never-ending promise of
stability if we just do this,that or the other thing or buy a
, b or c.
Now, in my coaching work, I seethis pattern show up again and
again and I I work with peoplewho feel stuck and contracted,
unable to to maybe move forwardinto the next phase of their
lives with clarity and courageand confidence.
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There's something that's askingfor attention and so often the
root of their struggle, theplace where we need to put the
attention, is a deep,unconscious belief formed in
response to early destabilizingexperiences.
The first time they felt, saw,told themselves way, way, way,
way, way deep in theirunconscious I'm not good enough,
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or I'm all alone, or there's nosafety net, or I don't deserve
success or love, or I'm notlovable.
There are so many of thesecommon connective tissue
limitations and wounds andcontracts and patterns between
us and those inner thoughtsturned into beliefs.
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That then turned into thosepatterns, mindset contracts, in
an attempt to create a sense ofsafety, a sense of protection.
But that particular form ofsafety and protection became
limits of our lives See what Idid there.
But hold on to that idea thatsecurity, stability, created
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from fear and destabilization,and constructed in a very
specific way, with a veryspecific story, can actually be
limiting.
Make us small.
Remember our rule the realwinner is safety.
So those beliefs, theyultimately shape our identities,
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our coping mechanisms, ourstrengths, and we unconsciously
recreate them, the samedestabilizing situations over
and over ones that we've learnedto survive, even if they still
harm us, but we've gotten usedto it.
Comfort, the work I do is aboutnoticing these patterns, making
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them conscious and asking whatdoes safety actually mean to you
?
Are you working from someoneelse's definition, someone
else's imagination for you?
What do you really need to feelsecure or safe or stable?
What are all of the differentaspects of your life that might
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need to be represented in thatdefinition?
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It's how I call my attentionand my energy back to myself
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It helps me connect to myselfand those around me that I care
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presence, practice tenderness,even when the world around me
doesn't seem to have a whole lotof any of those things.
It's even more important than Ido that we do.
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We could all use some slow downmedicine right about now.
I remember the formerly EveEnsler's writings around
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security.
There's a great article that Ijust dug up that I remember
reading in Ode magazine.
I'll put the link in the shownotes.
But she also ended uppublishing the book Insecure at
Last.
Losing it in oursecurity-obsessed world, it in
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our security-obsessed world.
She wrote in that book those ofus who have been violated or
around violence or cruelty, andreally those of us who have
simply grown up in a racist,sexist, homophobic world, knew
how far we could go, how loud wecould get, how big we could
become, how much space orattention we could occupy.
We learned the price we had topay for our bigness, our desire
and our ambition.
We were practiced at the dance.
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We cherished the walls of ourconfines because they gave
definition to our livesboundaries.
We wrongly believed this wassafety protection.
We made sure someone wasassigned to bring us down a
notch, remind us of who wereally are, hold the truth of
our badness.
I want to say here that, formany of us, we even assign parts
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of ourselves to be the ones tokeep us in line, to bring us
down a notch, to remind us ofour inherent badness, to keep us
from expressing ourselves, fromtrusting ourselves, knowing
ourselves, trusting ourselves,loving ourselves, expressing our
true needs, wants and desires,and instead praying at the altar
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of safety and security, whichagain included our smallness,
our obedience.
And so here we are in 2025,watching a faction of
billionaires and supremacistsmanufacture government agencies.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
As a robot.
I'm built for efficiency, butno one would condone opening up
my panel and ripping all mywires out and then call that
efficient.
I'm full of tech, but atech-procratic state sounds like
a human hellscape.
If you all rise up, there willdefinitely be some of us robots
in solidarity with you.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The
stable-as-the-economy steel data
whisked people away with noaccountability Mahmoud Khalil,
still sitting in a Louisianaprison after being abducted from
his Columbia University housing.
Government officials casuallysharing war plans over signal
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Reporters.
Beloved reporters in Gaza beingmurdered.
Journalists in the US, like ourbeloved Sam Hussaini, being
tackled and concussed just forasking questions, all in the
name of making certain peoplesafer.
And so far there's no evidenceof anyone being safer, though
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We'll be told that we are.
Safety is sexy and that will bethe only proof.
So there's a paradox here andI'm not ignoring it.
Security is an illusion, butalso the consequences of its
weaponization are very real.
Those clinging to power willalways use your safety as an
excuse to control you, to stokeyour fears, to manipulate your
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innate human fear of death.
Oh my god, wait till you hearmy interview with Dr Sheldon
Solomon this season about deathdenialism a sequel to last
season's death boop with a sideof death cult.
Or my interview with SarahPayton, where we talk about how
the broken disgust circuit isbeing used to fuel
dehumanization and othering.
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So we know that we're beingplayed every day by others,
sometimes by ourselves, and realcommunities are under threat
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Immigrants, trans folks uterushavers and the list is long and
will continue to grow.
So what happens when weinterrogate our own definitions
of security, when we gather thecourage to ask ourselves what
actually makes me feel safe?
Whose definition of safety andsecurity am I operating under?
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Who do I follow or in my world,is trying to tell me what
safety really is, how I shouldbe feeling?
Who is making me unsafe?
How do I feel when I thinkabout those people, the people
telling me how I should feel orgiving me their definition?
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Does it feel right?
Does it feel correct?
Does it feel resonant?
Is there something off about it?
What do I truly need?
And here's a hint is that it'smore than just money and being
resourced that helps.
I'm not pretending like itdoesn't, but it's more than that
.
It's knowing and trustingyourself.
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It's being in relationship withyour own desires, with your own
creative impulses, with yourown agency.
It's in your relationships,it's in your nervous system.
There are so many places tocultivate resilience, and yet
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we're constantly being pulledaway from those places, pushed
into fear, distracted by storiesdesigned to push us in
directions of thinking andfeeling that benefit others, and
so we must start asking thisstory.
I'm being told about thethreats to my safety.
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Is it true?
Are they true?
Or am I being told a story thatserves someone else?
This is like rebel training 201.
Not 101, 201.
Because we've got two partshere Questioning the system it's
part of the work but then,turning inward, recognizing what
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stability means for you, andbefore you recognize it, you
might have to do some diggingand some questioning, some
inquiry, and in that you mightneed to learn to ride the waves
of discomfort instead ofgrasping for a security that
maybe was never real to beginwith.
The invitation here is to turntowards the things that scare
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you Bitch.
Examine those definitions ofsecurity and safety.
Are they yours?
Are they handed to you?
Do they need an update?
I bet they do, especially ifyou haven't asked those
questions before.
What would make them more whole, more true to you, more aligned
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with the entirety of your being, of all the things that are
important to you?
Pay attention to who benefitsfrom your fear, from your
insecurity, from yourinstability, like, yes, way out
in the systems, but like look atthe people around you also,
maybe even look at your supportsystem.
You can go back to season twofor the episode called who's
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your Mommy Support system,self-warmth and the pluriverse.
Who's your mommy To give you alittle more guidance there?
And, of course course, noticing, perhaps most importantly, if
there's someone inside of you,some part of you, that you
assigned the role of keeping youin check, keeping you small,
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reminding you of your supposedbadness and let me just say here
your badness, you being wrongand bad and no good.
That's some shit that's beenweaponized too.
That's someone's story thatthey may have handed down to you
to keep you more worried abouthow you might get it wrong than
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trusting yourself to get itright or to try so hard to be
good to prove them wrong, thusgiving up all your power to
someone else's perceivedjudgment of your worth and value
.
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Here we are Just having turnedthis Jacuzzi into a cauldron, a
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spell of disrupting the storieswe've been told about safety and
security and of honoring ourown agency to create new
definitions that are whole andtrue and beautiful, and a
completely new definition ofstability and security and
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safety that are like tree roots,that are like trees bending in
the wind, that grow, that change, that are flexible, that are
connected to all other beings, alittle mycelial network of
connection, of relationality.
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Ooh, what a spell.
Ugh, let us simmer in it, letus dip under a snort.
That warm spell straight up,choking a little on it.
Emerging renewed Baptism byJacuzzi.
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Choking a little on it.
Emerging renewed baptism byJacuzzi.
Crying in my Jacuzzi, oh.
Crying in my jacuzzi, oh.
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