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May 30, 2025 94 mins

In this episode we talked to Ariel Zeleznikow-Johnston, a research fellow at Monash University and author of The Future Loves You. This episode includes considerable debate between the hosts and the guest, as well as participation from a live audience at the Biostasis week at Vitalist Bay.Topics Discussed & Debated:

* Why Ariel has used terms like "pseudoscience" "cult-like" and "snake oil" to describe cryonics

* Cryopreservation versus vitrifixation

* Neuroscientist's sentiments on biostasis for future reanimation

* What's the nature of consciousness and the self

* Is a brain emulation really "you" in the ways that matter

Links:

* Ariel Zeleznikow-Johnston: https://www.arielzj.com/

* Cryonics Discord server: https://www.discord.gg/cryosphere

* Cryonics subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/cryonics/If you prefer to watch this on video, check this link.



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