November 26, 2024 • 53 mins
What happens when a retired entrepreneur turns truck driver then becomes a trailblazer in the world of Bitcoin? Join us for an exhilarating conversation with Bitcoin Ben, who has transformed from life on the road to leading a movement in the Bitcoin community. Discover the significant strides Bitcoin is making under the current administration’s supportive policies and how pioneers like Ben and companies such as MicroStrategy are pushing the boundaries of digital finance. Ben shares his inspiring journey, discussing how Bitcoin can serve as a powerful tool for wealth preservation and potentially elevate America’s economic standing.
Explore the innovative world of The Bitcoin Ben Crypto Clubs, where education and community come together in vibrant hubs equipped with podcast studios and social gatherings. Ben’s passion for fostering a thriving Bitcoin ecosystem is evident as he shares his excitement the launch of the new Crypto FITZ educational app, designed to be a 24/7 resource for those eager to deepen their understanding of Bitcoin. These initiatives underscore the transformative impact of embracing Austrian economics and decentralized currencies, making the centers a welcoming space for learning and collaboration among like-minded enthusiasts.
Our discussion also highlights the critical importance of financial education and the unique opportunity present in today’s digital gold rush. With Bitcoin’s accessibility to retail investors and insights from influential figures like Michael Saylor, Ben emphasizes the potential for significant market growth. The narrative touches on the historical shift away from the gold standard and the urgency for individuals to educate themselves on Bitcoin, safeguarding their wealth against economic volatility. Celebrate the camaraderie of Crypto FITZ and Bitcoin Ben and their shared vision within the Bitcoin community as Ben’s passion for growth and collaboration shines through, painting a hopeful picture for what lies ahead in the world of digital assets.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am so excited about having my next guest with us.
He is such a trailblazer and issuch an amazing believer in
what's going on with Bitcoin,the future of money, hard money,
sound money.
He does not come from a financebackground.
(00:22):
Not come from a financebackground.
He's been a hard-working man,trucker and is setting the
Bitcoin world on fire and doingthings that no one is doing, and
I'm so excited to have you withme.
Bitcoin Ben, how are you, sir?
Hey Bits, how are you, brother?
I'm doing awesome.
(00:43):
Now you're on the road, aren'tyou?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, sir, I am on my way up to our club up in
Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This is just amazing, what you're doing and your
commitment to doing this, ben,and I respect you so much and
I'm in awe of what you've beenable to build leading up to this
point.
And now that we've got thetailwinds behind us, with such
clear cut future here forBitcoin and the digital asset
(01:18):
space, with President Trump, thenew administration, all the
Bitcoin friendly people who arebehind the wheel now, and the
fact that these ETFs gotapproved, we've come a long ways
in the last few years, haven'twe, ben?
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We are on the brink of the new bitch revolution,
shall we call it?
And Trump rasps.
How amazing this is and what hehas proposed is so phenomenal
(02:01):
it really hasn't even reachedthe general public yet on how
important this is.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
No, very little people understand how important
this is, and it could be theonly thing, by putting it on our
reserves, to get us out of thisdarn debt hole we've been in
out of this darn debt hole we'vebeen in.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Absolutely.
What I want people to reallygrasp is, with the use of new
technology blockchain, which isactually Bitcoin we are going to
be able to recapitalize all ofthe government programs that the
(02:47):
politicians have lied to uswere in locked boxes for years.
And what Trump is going to dois he's actually going to buy
125 Bitcoin and he actuallygoing to buy 1 to 5 Bitcoin and
(03:09):
he's going to put it into thetreasury of the US government.
That's the equivalent of himactually buying solid gold.
That's worth right now, as wespeak, $93,700 each.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I don't think that's a coincidence, Ben, that you and
I are talking right now asBitcoin climbs to its all-time
high.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh, I agree it's.
Every rich person knows what'sgoing on.
They're rich because they knowabout money.
They know about wealth andpreservation, and that's what
(04:12):
the Bitcoin is it's wealth andlabor preservation.
And what Trump is going to do,he is going to print fiat, which
basically cost us nothing.
And he's going to purchase thelargest energy network in the
(04:40):
world, which is Bitcoin, whichis monetized, and he's going to
recapitalize America andgovernment over the next four
years.
What that means is that he'sgoing to take America from one
(05:02):
of the most leveraged countriesin the world to one of the
richest countries in the worldActually, the richest.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's amazing, ben, and I don't know I'm sure you
followed it and we all know whata Bitcoin proponent Michael
Saylor is but today, as I'mwatching Wall Street closes in
about a half hour, microstrategythat went on the Bitcoin
standard a few years ago.
There's a squeeze going on aswe speak, ben.
(05:40):
Today, microstrategy is up$61.95 at this moment.
Holy smoke, it is up to $446.74a share.
Think about that for a second.
Wow, it wasn't that long agothat it was $300, went up to
(06:03):
$1,900, came back down to 1,500,did a 10 for 1 stock split and
ever since then look at thisride $446.60 a share and it's I
mean, it's gone up $20 a sharein the last hour.
(06:24):
So the short squeeze ishappening with MicroStrategy
Word is out and also these otherstocks that are directly
attributable to Bitcoin, and I'mtalking about Coinbase.
I'm talking about CleanSpark,the Bitcoin mining company that
went on the Bitcoin standard,similar Scientific that went and
(06:49):
followed Michael Saylor'splaybook, putting a similar
scientific on the Bitcoinstandard and stacking their sets
.
And it's such an exciting time.
And, ben, you got in this and Iwant you to share your story,
if you would, with our audienceabout how you got into this
(07:10):
space.
But you've set yourself up soperfectly and timed this so
perfectly for the vision thatyou had for these Bitcoin Ben
crypto clubs across the country.
I'm so excited for you andexcited for the Bitcoin
community that you've led thecharge and you don't come from
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Wall Street.
You have a trucker background.
Would you mind sharing us alittle bit of the background
history of Bitcoin Ben, yourpast Ben, and how did you get
into the swimming pool ofBitcoin?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, yes, I was a truck driver.
That's not the origins of who Iwas.
I was a young entrepreneur.
I launched a company that grewvery healthy Good for you.
(08:18):
Mm-hmm young and you got nothingto do.
You basically just wantsomething you enjoy doing.
So I had a friend who had atrucking business and I actually
called him and said hey, areyou looking for a driver?
(08:40):
I'm sure Do you know.
And I go me and he's like oh,you just sold your company, are
you that bad off?
And I said no, I'm fine.
I said, but I'm bored.
I said there's only so much Ican go out and really do, and my
(09:05):
wife doesn't want me around thehouse.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, that's understandable.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, I agree.
And so I drove a truck forabout I don't know, maybe six or
seven years, to be in 2014.
And it was in.
Actually, it was already in thebank, I think I don't remember
(09:36):
exactly when, but for this way,bitcoin was only $40.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Wow, each man man, oh man, bitcoin was only $40 each
man man, oh man yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's incredible, and so I heard about it, and
once I fully understood what itwas, I knew it was just
revolutionary.
What it did was it was the veryfirst currency and capital
(10:17):
reserve system that wasperfectly aligned with Austrian
economics and human psychologyand that always succeeds.
What you do is you take asystem and you actually make it
(10:42):
into a value-added system, andthen you put a price on it with
a future utility.
Now what made it sorevolutionary was it was
decentralized, which meansnobody controls Right.
(11:06):
Everyone can use it.
It is basically the equivalentof oxygen Everyone uses it.
No one owns all of it, andthat's what the Bitcoin is, and
(11:29):
every time you breathe it, itvalidates that oxygen works.
Every time you use theblockchain of the Bitcoin, it
validates that the network worksright?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
well, there's millions.
There's millions of nodes allover the world, as you said,
decentralized, built in theprotocol, and, of course, the
halving, where the supply is cutin half and the reward to the
miners is cut in half every fouryears.
It's like you said.
It's got more energy behind itthan powers, the US Navy, yep,
(12:08):
incredible, ben.
Can we talk about the BitcoinBend Centers?
I'm really intrigued by this.
I think there's such a need forthese Bitcoin Bend Centers to
spread the education around theworld, and you know I'm all
about the education.
I'm very blessed, fortunate, tohave the platforms that I have
(12:30):
Just released a new app, by theway, ben, that thing is
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you so much you guys have done such a great job
with that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Thank you.
I'm glad you got to check itout and like it.
Thank you so much Coming fromyou.
I take that very, very to heartand really appreciate it.
Ben it's.
We want to make it a userfriendly tool and we know the
challenge.
You know, on the radio I've gotto serve two masters.
I got to serve people who arein the space, who are invested
(13:03):
no more than the average bear.
And then, obviously, withwhat's going on now, everyone
wants to know about.
What is bitcoin?
I've been hearing about this.
What the heck is this?
Should I have some of it?
Is it legal, is it, is it good,is it evil and all those
questions that we get thrown atus.
You know left and right forever.
(13:24):
Well, what an opportunity forpeople to learn on their own, on
their own time.
And one o'clock in the morningyou can't sleep.
You want to listen to someinformation.
We've got 24 hours a day there.
It's out on the apple app store, it's up.
If you have an iphone, ios,it's live.
(13:44):
Now we are still uh gearing up.
It's a little bit morecomplicated to get that android
google play up, but we're we'remaking progress.
Hopefully we'll be up on thatin the next uh week, 10 days,
something like that.
So thank you so much for for uhdoing what you do.
So let me go back to what I wasintrigued about is that you're
(14:05):
you're many different things inone with a bitcoin bin uh center
.
You've got uh.
You've got uh a podcast studiowhere people can rent it.
You've got uh rooms where youdo uh, you record your podcast,
you do q and a's, you holdmeetups and get the Bitcoin
(14:25):
community together.
You hold barbecues.
It sounds like it's a veryexcellent.
It's almost like a.
It's a community set center forthose in, or those are
interested in, bitcoin.
Is that a good explanation ofwhat you're doing?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You nailed it.
It's a community.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
It's a community.
It's a community and I feelthat and I see the passion that
you and your staff and those whoare friends and supporters of
yours and involved in thesedifferent centers, and the
people that go to these centersand the people that go to these
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centers you really have giventhem a place to hang their hat
and let them know that there areother people who are as
interested in this and want tolearn.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And what a great way to exchange the information and
chew it up is eventually therewould reach a time where the
average Joe, the average Jay,would realize what was going on
(15:32):
and say okay, what do I do is asecure place to learn from
people who are extremelypassionate about what they're
talking about, and our actualgoal is to help the everyday Joe
(16:02):
the plumber, the truck driver,the pizza place, the shop right
down the road is educated andhas a place where they can come
and actually talk to a humanbeing in a chair, look in their
(16:27):
NBI and ask them whateverquestion they want.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And that actually gives people the security of hey
, we're here, we're at aphysical location, we have
offices, we have, like you said,it's a kind of a social
education center, except it's aton of fun.
(17:01):
We have TV, so we have.
If you like, you come over, youhave a few drinks.
We shouldn't talk about Bitcoinor anything really.
So blockchain or economics or401k that's awesome, whatever.
(17:22):
I'm gay that's awesome,whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well, you know as well as I do, ben, we come from
a boomer generation.
They didn't teach us aboutfinance in school.
They didn't teach us anythingabout finance, health, none of
that stuff.
That's why it's exciting nowthat we're going to make America
healthy again and providepeople with education about
(17:50):
what's in their food.
A lot of misinformation.
You know how muchmisinformation is out there
about Bitcoin.
There's misinformation outthere about everything, as we
know.
Oh, absolutely.
But I think people are reallystarting to connect the dots and
it's really starting to sinkinto them about what bitcoin is,
the importance of it to ourfinancial security for our
(18:12):
country, for ourselvespersonally, our families, our
children, our grandchildren.
Uh, hard money, uh, to be ableto store your hard work and your
value and not have itdepreciated away and printed
away.
As we see, our fiat currencyjust constantly gets printed for
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whatever they need and there'snothing back in it like it used
to be back in the day.
You know people forget gold wasconfiscated back in 1933
because people were hoarding itand the government ended up
taking us off the gold standardin 71, as we know.
And they print fiat at will.
(18:56):
And, of course, with theimplosion of 0809, the, the
financial crisis we had backthen.
Uh, the birth of bitcoin, uh,the fact that there is something
other than fiat currency,controlled by very, uh,
interesting central bankers allover the world, in each country,
(19:17):
and the fact that you'regetting I love how you said that
very interesting it's.
It's so, it's so great.
I feel so grateful and I'm sureyou share my feelings that look
at what we're doing now, atthis stage of life, and look how
it has engaged us and look how,like you said, the Bitcoin Bin
(19:41):
Crypto Club these are happypeople who come into the club.
These are not whiners andcomplainers and people who are
looking for you know to be, to,to be given a ton of stuff.
These are people who want tolearn.
They want to be around aboveaverage iq people, hopefully,
people that they can learn fromand for all the good right
(20:06):
reasons, you know.
That's that's why it's soexciting to be in this space,
because everyone who I've metwho knows about Bitcoin, got
into it and has a little bit ofunderstanding of it, is a
positive person, excited aboutthe future and just brings good
energy to the table.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You are absolutely right, it is.
This is such an amazing pointin history because, as Trump won
, everyone I have talked to hassaid there was a shift in the
(20:47):
energy of the world.
Yes, and I think what it waswas it was a shift of negativity
to finally America the light atthe end of the progressive,
(21:09):
horrible tunnel we've lived infor the last hundred years.
So many people are seeing whatTrump and Elon Musk and RFK are
doing and they're like, oh my,my God, finally somebody running
(21:30):
the government who actuallycares about the people.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, no doubt and remember, all of these people
have kids, grandkids, families.
They all want a good future forour country and for their
legacies, and for their childrenand grandchildren and their
offspring, and safeneighborhoods and a financial
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system that's not going toimplode on top of them, and
groceries that can be affordableagain and food that can have
healthy ingredients in whateveryou're eating again, and being
able to be able to save somemoney, be able to have a home.
You know, so many young couplesstruggle nowadays with what's
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happened with the housing marketand how that's.
Once again, it's not thateverything is that much more
expensive.
It's that the value of ourdollar buys that much less.
The dollar has lost 50% of itspurchase power in the last six
years, ben.
No wonder we're all excitedabout Bitcoin as a hedge of
(22:42):
inflation.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yes, and what you and I know is this is the only exit
we have.
Yep, there's.
There is no other option.
So everyone listening right now.
I want you to understand Eitheryou educate yourself on the
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Bitcoin or you are going to loseyour wealth.
You're going to work againstyourself.
You will hold the US currencyas it loses value, and what that
means is every single day thatyou work.
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A year later, you've lost aquarter of that day.
It basically disappeared, andso you're working every day and
you're losing your labor value.
It's highway slavery.
It is pure value.
It's highway slavery.
It is pure evil.
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It's slavery.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, it's finally you know, and the thing is it's
finally coming to light.
You know the movie God BlessBitcoin.
I did a great interviewbroadcast with the co-creator,
the visionary Brian Estes, whoproduced the movie God Bless
Bitcoin.
And he comes.
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He had a financial advisoryfirm that 10 years ago he sold
to Wells Fargo Advisors.
He said it wasn't until afterhe stopped being a registered
investment advisor that hereally knew how our financial
system worked.
Think about that.
Yeah, and since then he hasfunded tens of billions of
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dollars of Bitcoin andblockchain companies, has really
opened up many eyes to the factthat what we're talking about
now you got to realize that youhave to do your own research.
Bitcoin Ben or Crypto Fitzcannot give you this answer in a
(24:58):
simple one paragraph form or asimple conversation, like Ben
and I are having right now.
You need to do your ownresearch.
We always say, ben, we urgeeveryone.
If you go down the rabbit holeand you got an inkling of what's
going on and you get interested, I can tell I mean from my
personal experience I don't knowwhat else I would be doing
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right now that would bring methis much hope and this much
excitement, and I feel just soblessed and grateful and lucky
to have gotten the bug and tohave started researching this
and living it for the lastseveral years.
I started this radio show almostthree years ago and a lot of my
friends thought I had lost mymind.
(25:43):
They didn't understand why Ileft the entertainment world.
And I didn't.
I just went down this hole andit was new and fresh and there
were a lot of naysayers.
I don't need to tell you, andthey look at you sideways.
But now I mean, ben, thinkabout it.
Since election day, it's onlybeen two weeks to today day, it
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was around 73 grand.
We've gone up over 20 grand perbitcoin and that and that
obviously you know the risingtide raises all ships.
The whole marketplace is onfire, as we know, and all the
derivative, uh, wall street, uh,equity companies that are
connected to the blockchain orBitcoin or the crypto ecosystem.
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They're all on fire.
Now, all of a sudden, peopleare driving their investment
advisors crazy, going I want toget in Bitcoin, I want some
Bitcoin.
What do we have Bitcoin?
How come I don't have Bitcoin?
How come you're not offeringBitcoin to me?
They must be going crazy.
How come you're not offeringBitcoin to me?
They must be going crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh, absolutely.
And if you think about it, weare at the.
He's not even president yet.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Right and wait until he implements all of these
pro-crypto programs and actuallynow lives a very light-touch
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regulatory environment that letsthese crypto economy grow,
naturally.
This is everyone listening.
I want you to listen verycarefully.
This is the equivalent ofeveryone in your town riding
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horses, in your town ridinghorses and then you see, a Henry
Ford on a team roll down themiddle of your town and everyone
looks at it and goes.
Well, what the heck is that?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Man, I love that analogy.
I got to steal that one Ben.
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's yours, it's so true.
And what I want people torealize is right now and I say
this with nothing but love in myheart for every one of your
listeners Run.
I'm really hearing that rightnow, unless you close one of my
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clubs, I open your phone, downboth and give me a zap.
Oh, thank you, sir.
Download Jimmy's app.
Oh, thank you, sir.
And just start listening andjust learn as much as you can,
as fast as you can.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And just research, because we're at the point where
you can basically say that myclubs are the first.
I guess they'd be theautomobile dealerships that are
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sweeping across the nation thatare sweeping across the nation
and everyone's going to run into these clubs and go give me
one of them beautiful bottlebeads Not teas, but beads, right
exactly, give me some Bitcoin.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I love it Model beads .
I love Bitcoin.
I love it Model Bs.
I love that.
I love that, Ben Right.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And we will run a car wash and park it out front.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And you'll put gas in it.
You're not going to have anelectric battery in it, are you?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
No, you are going to be involved in the community.
You know you are going to beinvolved in the review.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So, ben, let's go down the list now of what
currently, what Bitcoin, bencrypto clubs are open and what
ones are in the planning stage.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Oh, okay, we have one in Sarasota, florida, one in
Lussey, boston, massachusetts.
Wow, then we got one inNashville, tennessee.
We're launching one in St Louis, missouri, which is where I'm
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originally from.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We're launching one in Texas, right by Dallas, nice,
and I'm also launching anall-inclusive resort in El
Salvador.
That's wild.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's wild, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The next year we'll probably open another eight and
you and I actually talked about,because I love where you're at
out there.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Ben, we need to open one out here, and I want to work
with you on making that happen.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Absolutely.
Let's make it happen, becausewhat we could do is actually set
you up an office in there whereliterally all of your listeners
could walk in and go.
What are you doing, brother?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
That'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And it's a thing.
They're dealing with atrustworthy individual that they
listen to every week or everyday or whatever, and that's what
they need.
They need someone they trustand you and your history, your
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reputation you are the perfectperson for one of these clubs
should want these clubs.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, I think everything it stands for is so
great and so necessary.
Ben, you know, recently I'vehad the honor of doing lectures
college lectures for blockchainengineering, business school
students and faculty, and thequestions that I get from them
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are so great and I will speak tothem about bitcoin, the
blockchain space.
Uh, just me just laying outsome myths, some stating some
facts to them.
And I talk to them on anon-technical level because I
tell them you need to understandthe importance of what you're
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studying to the everyday guy andgal out on the street.
I'm not here to talk tech toyou, talk exahash rate with you
or anything else.
I'm here to talk about the realworld impact of Bitcoin and the
whole blockchain ecosystem andwhat you folks are teaching and
studying.
And I got to tell you I canfeel it from them they're
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thirsty for the knowledge andthey're not even getting it.
A lot of them are not evengetting it in school because,
unfortunately, the professorsneed to catch up on the learning
curve.
You know, yeah, professors needto catch up on the learning
curve, you know yeah.
So that's a role that I thinkyou will continue to spread and
that I want to continue tospread on the airwaves.
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I just got started in Las Vegas.
We're on in Phoenix.
My radio affiliates arespreading.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That reminds me we're actually launching a club in
Las Vegas, probably April or Mayof next year, just before the
conference Yep.
Well, we got a lot to talkabout.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Ben.
Oh, yes, we do, my friend.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Because we can put that word out there big time.
Yep, we are at the beginning ofthe digital gold rush.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
We really are.
It's fascinating and this wasthe first time, as we know, that
the retail investor, the momand pop, everyday guy and gal on
the street, were able to getinto the space before Wall
Street.
Think about that.
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You know, ipo comes out.
You know, it's just, it's it'sall the money's been made by the
time the public gets a chanceto get a piece of the pie.
This time.
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This is the first time infinancial history that everyday
people got to front run themachine, the Wall Street machine
, and they couldn't get in untilJanuary 11, the day after all
those, all those companies gotapproved for their spot bitcoin
etfs.
So what an amazing opportunityfor so many people.
But you keep you and I keepdrilling this in.
You got to do your own research.
Now I what I do, ben, fornewbies, I'll you know they'll
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listen to me and everything.
I'll'll say okay, take a stepback.
All right, let me send you to.
Just let me give you a coupleof little easy assignments to do
to start you on your way.
Have you read the Bitcoin whitepaper?
Okay, satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper.
It's nine pages long.
Might take you a few times toread it.
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Be patient with yourself.
Take your time, the more youread it and the more you hear
the terminology, the more it'llall start to make sense to you.
Then I send them to my blog.
I have a blog site that hassimple explanations of all the
terms and then, if you want togo deeper into each of those
terms, you can and learn.
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I also am sending them becausepeople love to watch videos, as
you know, and love to watchmovies.
I mentioned it a little whileago.
God bless bitcoin.
I tell them to view that.
You'll start to see the moraland ethical attributes of
bitcoin and the unethical andimmoral attributes of our
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government-printed fiat currency.
That'll start to connect moredots for you.
And then, if you're a reader,read Safedine Amos' the Bitcoin
Standard, the Austrian economist, who goes back through the
history of all thesecivilizations how they
hyperinflated their fiatcurrencies out of existence,
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what was used for goods andservices seashells, salt, all
that good stuff.
He doesn't even mention theword Bitcoin until three
quarters of the way through thebook for the readers out there.
And then I tell them look atwhat you can find on Michael
Saylor, who's the biggestBitcoin flag waver out there
(37:29):
with the biggest reach.
Who's got after today?
Lord knows.
I think they've got like 18billion dollars worth of Bitcoin
on the balance sheet now.
He owns well over a billiondollars himself personally over
a billion dollars himselfpersonally so obviously a lot of
companies.
He's got the program Bitcoinfor Corporations, trying to
(37:52):
teach other companies how to goon the Bitcoin standard, how for
them to save Bitcoin, and youand I have been pretty soon and
I think we're really close andsome people are doing this
already.
If I do something for someoneand we're really close and some
people are doing this already ifI do something for someone or
we're going to do a businessdeal, do I have the option of
getting paid in fiat or bitcoin?
(38:13):
We know which one I'm going totake absolutely hello.
So what do you think?
What do you think is is goingto be?
What propels that tipping point?
(38:34):
I think we're at it right now.
I think this time came quicker,quicker than we imagined.
Who would have thought we'dhave all?
Have all these tailwinds and,like you said, the mood change
two weeks ago for this space andthe clarity that it's bringing.
Even the naysayers are notnaysaying, they're actually
(38:57):
saying okay, I haven't knownmuch about this, but I guess I
better look at it Now.
Today we set an all-time high.
It was just about at 94.
It now.
Today we set it off all-timehigh.
You were, it was just about at94.
What's the media going to belike and what's the front page
headlines going to be like soon?
It could be tomorrow, it couldbe next week, it'll be next
(39:18):
month.
Once we hit a $100,000 price.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's going to be an economic earthquake that sends
a tsunami of attention right tothe Bitcoin.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And that tsunami of attention is going to be
accompanied by a tsunami ofwealth.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Well, look at how many trillions of dollars in
cash has been sitting on thesidelines, ben.
It's a staggering number.
Okay, trillions have beensitting on the sidelines.
Not to mention the fact thatall these pension funds now have
an on-ramp ability to get intothe space with the spot Bitcoin
(40:30):
ETFs.
Not to mention that all theseasset management companies
BlackRock, fidelity, grayscale,wisdomtree go down the list.
They have to back the ETFsone-to-one with the underlying
asset Bitcoin ETFs, one-to-onewith the underlying asset
Bitcoin.
So there's basically we're justabout at that supply shock
(40:55):
situation because, with thehalving this past April and the
supply getting cut in half,there's more demand out there
from all these companies alone,not to mention foreign countries
that are selling their ETFsAustralia, hong Kong and the
market never closes.
It's a 365, 24-7 marketplace.
So I actually think people aregoing to be shocked at the
(41:20):
moonshot that we're just aboutto go on.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah on yeah, I would not actually be surprised if,
(41:53):
over the next three months, weare sitting $185,000 each
Bitcoin, and I think that'sactually being a little
conservative.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
That's going to be incredible and we remind
everyone that you don't needthese numbers that ben and I are
banging back and forth.
You don't need to buy, youdon't.
If you can't buy a wholebitcoin, you can buy a fraction.
There are 100 million satoshissats in every bitcoin.
But you can buy ten dollars,twenty dollars a week.
(42:22):
You can, dollar cost average in.
Just get in in the pool, learn,learn, learn, learn how to do
the right thing and, as Ben said, download the CryptoFits app
and also follow Bitcoin Ben onYouTube.
He does great podcasts, greatinformation.
(42:45):
Just Google him.
He's everywhere.
Bitcoin Ben.
If you're outside of Dallas, ifyou're in Boston, if you're in
St Louis, if you're in Nashville, make sure you drop on by the
Bitcoin Ben Crypto Club and tellthem you heard Ben talking
about it on the radio here withCrypto Fitz and that you want to
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be a part of the family andcheck it out.
You're going to make a lot ofgreat networking connects there.
It's almost like a chambermixer.
I would think when you hadthose barbecues in Nashville,
ben.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yes, yes, we have.
We have a lot of entrepreneurswho just they have been ruined
with inflation and they'relooking for some place where
they can stay and actually wouldtake their wealth.
(43:43):
Well, we got it.
We have the answer.
We have the lifeboat, the oldsystem, it's the Titanic.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's it, it's done.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
We have a space of inflation and it's going down,
and it's going down and it'sgoing down fast.
So I highly recommend that yougo to Jimmy and download his app
(44:21):
.
If you're near our club.
We also have a website you canjoin and I think if you use it,
jimmy's app and our website.
You're going to get caught upreally quick.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Well, that's awesome.
Quick, well, that's awesome.
And don't you wish that thetools that you and I have were
around when we first startedlooking at this space?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Oh, God, yeah, it would have been a whole lot
easier.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, but you know we wouldn't know as much and we
wouldn't be.
Hey, we are a representation ofproof of work.
Baby, that's the name of thegame.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Amen Proof of work Bitcoin, ben.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I cannot tell you what a pleasure it is for you to
take time.
I know you're traveling andyou're on your way to your club
in Boston.
We urge everyone to go to yourwebsite.
Give us the complete website,sir.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
It is actually www.
Bitcoin Ben Crypto Club dot com.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Bitcoin Ben.
Crypto Clubs plural no no club.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Club Bitcoin, ben Crypto Club dot.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Plural no, no.
Club ClubBitcoinBenCryptoClubcom.
Check it out.
Check the site out, you'll see.
Ben holds meetups, in-personget-togethers.
He comes into all the townswhere the Bitcoin Ben Crypto
Clubs are creating a reallygreat positive.
This is just a positive thingfor you to pay attention, to Get
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out of the distraction ofeverything else that everybody
tries to take you away.
Everybody wants you to spendyour money on stuff that's going
to evaporate.
Well, it's time to really digin.
None of us have been given abasic financial education.
I mean going through gradeschool, high school, college.
They still are not teachingyoung people about money.
(46:34):
What is money?
What's the history of money,what's the future of money,
what's going on with our moneyand why, all of a sudden, we're
hearing nothing about this debtspiral.
You know, ben, in New York Citymany years ago I'll never
forget I'm talking about late80s You'd walk down 6th Avenue
(46:54):
near the New York Library andthere used to be a tote board up
there showing the nation's debtevery second.
How it would go up right andwe'd look at it and just people
would look at it and go, hmm,isn't that interesting?
And they'd keep walking and notgive a second thought to it.
The debt got so high that theyran.
(47:15):
They were electronic billboards.
They didn't have any more spaceto add another zero once the
debt really really kicked inright.
So now I think people arefinally connecting the dots, and
I actually think people arefinally connecting the dots and
I actually think people arepaying attention more to their
finances than ever, because theyhave to as well.
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That free money ride went onfor a long time.
There's 1% 2% interest inmortgage rates and all that, and
things are going to getstabilized, but it's going to
take a little while andeverybody needs to be patient.
You need to make the rightmoves because, as you can see,
this is a fast movingmarketplace now, because we're
(47:57):
at that tipping point where it'sgone mainstream.
I mean, when you have a reporton mainstream television
networks about Bitcoin andcrypto, you know something's up,
right, ben yes, sir so, ben, Ican't thank you enough for for
for chatting it up with me,brother oh hey, I.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
I also want to say one more thing.
Thank you so much.
You could have easily retired,enjoyed a wonderful environment
of where you live.
You know, play golf.
(48:42):
It's always gorgeous there,except with its butt as hell.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But see, I'm a desert rat, it doesn't really bother
me, right.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
But you actually chose.
You know what I'm retired, I'mactually going to get out there
and I'm going to help my fellowman and I'll tell you what.
That's off to you, vince.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Well and right back at you, ben.
Thank you, sir.
We both know what we get out ofdoing this and it's just the
man sent me.
I was pointed in this direction.
I really feel like this is mycalling and I get so much
pleasure out of it, and it'swhat gets me out of bed every
(49:33):
morning with a kick in my step.
And what a gift to be lifelearners.
You know we have to encourageeveryone.
People get discouraged there.
They get bored with their JOBs,they don't like their boss,
they're not happy doing whatthey're doing.
There's a whole new world outthere for you to explore and
(49:54):
it's actually as simple as maybewatching one less movie a week
or maybe not watching fourfootball games in one day.
Maybe it's taking a little timefor you and your, your husband,
your wife, your kids.
You can have a crypto night.
(50:14):
You can have a bitcoin nightokay, people have themes when
they're at home and parties andeverything.
You can have a bitcoineducation night.
There's so much education outthere with what ben has what I
have, not to mention all theyoutube videos for those out
there with what Ben has what Ihave, not to mention all the
YouTube videos for those outthere who are spreading the word
and are involved in this space,and we promise that it will be
(50:38):
an exciting ride for you and ifwe can even get you interested
and curious looking at it, thenwe've done what we can do.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Absolutely.
And how I explain it is whenyou were younger, you did not
know how to drive a car.
You had to learn.
You had to.
I'll say that you had to driveit, that you had your dad or
(51:10):
your mom.
Right.
Someone who knew what they weredoing.
Yeah.
And what that unlocked wasevery highway, every road,
everywhere you wanted to go, youcould now go.
Well, this technology, thiscurrency, this transition is
(51:40):
your highway to wealth.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
No doubt, ben.
I love your analogies, I loveyour comparisons.
You give him, michael Saylor, arun for his money.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Oh, absolutely.
He has a little bit more moneythan I do.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Oh, I love him, I'm glad to catch him.
Hey, everybody's trying tocatch him, ben.
Thank you so much, sir.
I love him, I'm glad to catchhim.
Hey, everybody's trying tocatch him, ben.
Thank you so much, sir.
Have safe travels and let'sreconnect like soon and lay out
a game plan, because I need tohave you and I need to have a
(52:22):
little tete-a-tete.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Absolutely Fitz.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Love you too.
Thank you so much for yourdedication to the Bitcoin
community and what you're doingand spreading the education.
You're doing it in such anunlike anyone else.
You've built something that'sso impressive and people have no
idea what it takes to putsomething, put anything together
, let alone what you've beenable to build, and and and the
(52:52):
trajectory that you're on atthis time, uh, the stars are
aligning perfectly for thesebitcoin ben crypto clubs and I
look, uh, look, look forward tohelping you spread the vision,
ben.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Well, thank you, sir.
All glory goes to God.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
God is great, that's for sure.
I am so excited about having my next guest with us.
He is such a trailblazer and issuch an amazing believer in
what's going on with Bitcoin,the future of money, hard money,
sound money.
He does not come from a financebackground.
(00:22):
Not come from a financebackground.
He's been a hard-working man,trucker and is setting the
Bitcoin world on fire and doingthings that no one is doing, and
I'm so excited to have you withme.
Bitcoin Ben, how are you, sir?
Hey Bits, how are you, brother?
I'm doing awesome.
(00:43):
Now you're on the road, aren'tyou?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, sir, I am on my way up to our club up in
Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This is just amazing, what you're doing and your
commitment to doing this, ben,and I respect you so much and
I'm in awe of what you've beenable to build leading up to this
point.
And now that we've got thetailwinds behind us, with such
clear cut future here forBitcoin and the digital asset
(01:18):
space, with President Trump, thenew administration, all the
Bitcoin friendly people who arebehind the wheel now, and the
fact that these ETFs gotapproved, we've come a long ways
in the last few years, haven'twe, ben?
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
We are on the brink of the new bitch revolution,
shall we call it?
And Trump rasps.
How amazing this is and what hehas proposed is so phenomenal
(02:01):
it really hasn't even reachedthe general public yet on how
important this is.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
No, very little people understand how important
this is, and it could be theonly thing, by putting it on our
reserves, to get us out of thisdarn debt hole we've been in
out of this darn debt hole we'vebeen in.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Absolutely.
What I want people to reallygrasp is, with the use of new
technology blockchain, which isactually Bitcoin we are going to
be able to recapitalize all ofthe government programs that the
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politicians have lied to uswere in locked boxes for years.
And what Trump is going to dois he's actually going to buy
125 Bitcoin and he actuallygoing to buy 1 to 5 Bitcoin and
(03:09):
he's going to put it into thetreasury of the US government.
That's the equivalent of himactually buying solid gold.
That's worth right now, as wespeak, $93,700 each.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I don't think that's a coincidence, Ben, that you and
I are talking right now asBitcoin climbs to its all-time
high.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh, I agree it's.
Every rich person knows what'sgoing on.
They're rich because they knowabout money.
They know about wealth andpreservation, and that's what
(04:12):
the Bitcoin is it's wealth andlabor preservation.
And what Trump is going to do,he is going to print fiat, which
basically cost us nothing.
And he's going to purchase thelargest energy network in the
(04:40):
world, which is Bitcoin, whichis monetized, and he's going to
recapitalize America andgovernment over the next four
years.
What that means is that he'sgoing to take America from one
(05:02):
of the most leveraged countriesin the world to one of the
richest countries in the worldActually, the richest.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
It's amazing, ben, and I don't know I'm sure you
followed it and we all know whata Bitcoin proponent Michael
Saylor is but today, as I'mwatching Wall Street closes in
about a half hour, microstrategythat went on the Bitcoin
standard a few years ago.
There's a squeeze going on aswe speak, ben.
(05:40):
Today, microstrategy is up$61.95 at this moment.
Holy smoke, it is up to $446.74a share.
Think about that for a second.
Wow, it wasn't that long agothat it was $300, went up to
(06:03):
$1,900, came back down to 1,500,did a 10 for 1 stock split and
ever since then look at thisride $446.60 a share and it's I
mean, it's gone up $20 a sharein the last hour.
(06:24):
So the short squeeze ishappening with MicroStrategy
Word is out and also these otherstocks that are directly
attributable to Bitcoin, and I'mtalking about Coinbase.
I'm talking about CleanSpark,the Bitcoin mining company that
went on the Bitcoin standard,similar Scientific that went and
(06:49):
followed Michael Saylor'splaybook, putting a similar
scientific on the Bitcoinstandard and stacking their sets
.
And it's such an exciting time.
And, ben, you got in this and Iwant you to share your story,
if you would, with our audienceabout how you got into this
(07:10):
space.
But you've set yourself up soperfectly and timed this so
perfectly for the vision thatyou had for these Bitcoin Ben
crypto clubs across the country.
I'm so excited for you andexcited for the Bitcoin
community that you've led thecharge and you don't come from
(07:31):
Wall Street.
You have a trucker background.
Would you mind sharing us alittle bit of the background
history of Bitcoin Ben, yourpast Ben, and how did you get
into the swimming pool ofBitcoin?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, yes, I was a truck driver.
That's not the origins of who Iwas.
I was a young entrepreneur.
I launched a company that grewvery healthy Good for you.
(08:18):
Mm-hmm young and you got nothingto do.
You basically just wantsomething you enjoy doing.
So I had a friend who had atrucking business and I actually
called him and said hey, areyou looking for a driver?
(08:40):
I'm sure Do you know.
And I go me and he's like oh,you just sold your company, are
you that bad off?
And I said no, I'm fine.
I said, but I'm bored.
I said there's only so much Ican go out and really do, and my
(09:05):
wife doesn't want me around thehouse.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, that's understandable.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, I agree.
And so I drove a truck forabout I don't know, maybe six or
seven years, to be in 2014.
And it was in.
Actually, it was already in thebank, I think I don't remember
(09:36):
exactly when, but for this way,bitcoin was only $40.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Wow, each man man, oh man, bitcoin was only $40 each
man man, oh man yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's incredible, and so I heard about it, and
once I fully understood what itwas, I knew it was just
revolutionary.
What it did was it was the veryfirst currency and capital
(10:17):
reserve system that wasperfectly aligned with Austrian
economics and human psychologyand that always succeeds.
What you do is you take asystem and you actually make it
(10:42):
into a value-added system, andthen you put a price on it with
a future utility.
Now what made it sorevolutionary was it was
decentralized, which meansnobody controls Right.
(11:06):
Everyone can use it.
It is basically the equivalentof oxygen Everyone uses it.
No one owns all of it, andthat's what the Bitcoin is, and
(11:29):
every time you breathe it, itvalidates that oxygen works.
Every time you use theblockchain of the Bitcoin, it
validates that the network worksright?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
well, there's millions.
There's millions of nodes allover the world, as you said,
decentralized, built in theprotocol, and, of course, the
halving, where the supply is cutin half and the reward to the
miners is cut in half every fouryears.
It's like you said.
It's got more energy behind itthan powers, the US Navy, yep,
(12:08):
incredible, ben.
Can we talk about the BitcoinBend Centers?
I'm really intrigued by this.
I think there's such a need forthese Bitcoin Bend Centers to
spread the education around theworld, and you know I'm all
about the education.
I'm very blessed, fortunate, tohave the platforms that I have
(12:30):
Just released a new app, by theway, ben, that thing is
beautiful.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you so much you guys have done such a great job
with that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Thank you.
I'm glad you got to check itout and like it.
Thank you so much Coming fromyou.
I take that very, very to heartand really appreciate it.
Ben it's.
We want to make it a userfriendly tool and we know the
challenge.
You know, on the radio I've gotto serve two masters.
I got to serve people who arein the space, who are invested
(13:03):
no more than the average bear.
And then, obviously, withwhat's going on now, everyone
wants to know about.
What is bitcoin?
I've been hearing about this.
What the heck is this?
Should I have some of it?
Is it legal, is it, is it good,is it evil and all those
questions that we get thrown atus.
You know left and right forever.
(13:24):
Well, what an opportunity forpeople to learn on their own, on
their own time.
And one o'clock in the morningyou can't sleep.
You want to listen to someinformation.
We've got 24 hours a day there.
It's out on the apple app store, it's up.
If you have an iphone, ios,it's live.
(13:44):
Now we are still uh gearing up.
It's a little bit morecomplicated to get that android
google play up, but we're we'remaking progress.
Hopefully we'll be up on thatin the next uh week, 10 days,
something like that.
So thank you so much for for uhdoing what you do.
So let me go back to what I wasintrigued about is that you're
(14:05):
you're many different things inone with a bitcoin bin uh center
.
You've got uh.
You've got uh a podcast studiowhere people can rent it.
You've got uh rooms where youdo uh, you record your podcast,
you do q and a's, you holdmeetups and get the Bitcoin
(14:25):
community together.
You hold barbecues.
It sounds like it's a veryexcellent.
It's almost like a.
It's a community set center forthose in, or those are
interested in, bitcoin.
Is that a good explanation ofwhat you're doing?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You nailed it.
It's a community.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
It's a community.
It's a community and I feelthat and I see the passion that
you and your staff and those whoare friends and supporters of
yours and involved in thesedifferent centers, and the
people that go to these centersand the people that go to these
(15:07):
centers you really have giventhem a place to hang their hat
and let them know that there areother people who are as
interested in this and want tolearn.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And what a great way to exchange the information and
chew it up is eventually therewould reach a time where the
average Joe, the average Jay,would realize what was going on
(15:32):
and say okay, what do I do is asecure place to learn from
people who are extremelypassionate about what they're
talking about, and our actualgoal is to help the everyday Joe
(16:02):
the plumber, the truck driver,the pizza place, the shop right
down the road is educated andhas a place where they can come
and actually talk to a humanbeing in a chair, look in their
(16:27):
NBI and ask them whateverquestion they want.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And that actually gives people the security of hey
, we're here, we're at aphysical location, we have
offices, we have, like you said,it's a kind of a social
education center, except it's aton of fun.
(17:01):
We have TV, so we have.
If you like, you come over, youhave a few drinks.
We shouldn't talk about Bitcoinor anything really.
So blockchain or economics or401k that's awesome, whatever.
(17:22):
I'm gay that's awesome,whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well, you know as well as I do, ben, we come from
a boomer generation.
They didn't teach us aboutfinance in school.
They didn't teach us anythingabout finance, health, none of
that stuff.
That's why it's exciting nowthat we're going to make America
healthy again and providepeople with education about
(17:50):
what's in their food.
A lot of misinformation.
You know how muchmisinformation is out there
about Bitcoin.
There's misinformation outthere about everything, as we
know.
Oh, absolutely.
But I think people are reallystarting to connect the dots and
it's really starting to sinkinto them about what bitcoin is,
the importance of it to ourfinancial security for our
(18:12):
country, for ourselvespersonally, our families, our
children, our grandchildren.
Uh, hard money, uh, to be ableto store your hard work and your
value and not have itdepreciated away and printed
away.
As we see, our fiat currencyjust constantly gets printed for
(18:34):
whatever they need and there'snothing back in it like it used
to be back in the day.
You know people forget gold wasconfiscated back in 1933
because people were hoarding itand the government ended up
taking us off the gold standardin 71, as we know.
And they print fiat at will.
(18:56):
And, of course, with theimplosion of 0809, the, the
financial crisis we had backthen.
Uh, the birth of bitcoin, uh,the fact that there is something
other than fiat currency,controlled by very, uh,
interesting central bankers allover the world, in each country,
(19:17):
and the fact that you'regetting I love how you said that
very interesting it's.
It's so, it's so great.
I feel so grateful and I'm sureyou share my feelings that look
at what we're doing now, atthis stage of life, and look how
it has engaged us and look how,like you said, the Bitcoin Bin
(19:41):
Crypto Club these are happypeople who come into the club.
These are not whiners andcomplainers and people who are
looking for you know to be, to,to be given a ton of stuff.
These are people who want tolearn.
They want to be around aboveaverage iq people, hopefully,
people that they can learn fromand for all the good right
(20:06):
reasons, you know.
That's that's why it's soexciting to be in this space,
because everyone who I've metwho knows about Bitcoin, got
into it and has a little bit ofunderstanding of it, is a
positive person, excited aboutthe future and just brings good
energy to the table.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You are absolutely right, it is.
This is such an amazing pointin history because, as Trump won
, everyone I have talked to hassaid there was a shift in the
(20:47):
energy of the world.
Yes, and I think what it waswas it was a shift of negativity
to finally America the light atthe end of the progressive,
(21:09):
horrible tunnel we've lived infor the last hundred years.
So many people are seeing whatTrump and Elon Musk and RFK are
doing and they're like, oh my,my God, finally somebody running
(21:30):
the government who actuallycares about the people.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, no doubt and remember, all of these people
have kids, grandkids, families.
They all want a good future forour country and for their
legacies, and for their childrenand grandchildren and their
offspring, and safeneighborhoods and a financial
(21:57):
system that's not going toimplode on top of them, and
groceries that can be affordableagain and food that can have
healthy ingredients in whateveryou're eating again, and being
able to be able to save somemoney, be able to have a home.
You know, so many young couplesstruggle nowadays with what's
(22:20):
happened with the housing marketand how that's.
Once again, it's not thateverything is that much more
expensive.
It's that the value of ourdollar buys that much less.
The dollar has lost 50% of itspurchase power in the last six
years, ben.
No wonder we're all excitedabout Bitcoin as a hedge of
(22:42):
inflation.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yes, and what you and I know is this is the only exit
we have.
Yep, there's.
There is no other option.
So everyone listening right now.
I want you to understand Eitheryou educate yourself on the
(23:06):
Bitcoin or you are going to loseyour wealth.
You're going to work againstyourself.
You will hold the US currencyas it loses value, and what that
means is every single day thatyou work.
(23:28):
A year later, you've lost aquarter of that day.
It basically disappeared, andso you're working every day and
you're losing your labor value.
It's highway slavery.
It is pure value.
It's highway slavery.
It is pure evil.
(23:49):
It's slavery.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, it's finally you know, and the thing is it's
finally coming to light.
You know the movie God BlessBitcoin.
I did a great interviewbroadcast with the co-creator,
the visionary Brian Estes, whoproduced the movie God Bless
Bitcoin.
And he comes.
(24:14):
He had a financial advisoryfirm that 10 years ago he sold
to Wells Fargo Advisors.
He said it wasn't until afterhe stopped being a registered
investment advisor that hereally knew how our financial
system worked.
Think about that.
Yeah, and since then he hasfunded tens of billions of
(24:37):
dollars of Bitcoin andblockchain companies, has really
opened up many eyes to the factthat what we're talking about
now you got to realize that youhave to do your own research.
Bitcoin Ben or Crypto Fitzcannot give you this answer in a
(24:58):
simple one paragraph form or asimple conversation, like Ben
and I are having right now.
You need to do your ownresearch.
We always say, ben, we urgeeveryone.
If you go down the rabbit holeand you got an inkling of what's
going on and you get interested, I can tell I mean from my
personal experience I don't knowwhat else I would be doing
(25:22):
right now that would bring methis much hope and this much
excitement, and I feel just soblessed and grateful and lucky
to have gotten the bug and tohave started researching this
and living it for the lastseveral years.
I started this radio show almostthree years ago and a lot of my
friends thought I had lost mymind.
(25:43):
They didn't understand why Ileft the entertainment world.
And I didn't.
I just went down this hole andit was new and fresh and there
were a lot of naysayers.
I don't need to tell you, andthey look at you sideways.
But now I mean, ben, thinkabout it.
Since election day, it's onlybeen two weeks to today day, it
(26:05):
was around 73 grand.
We've gone up over 20 grand perbitcoin and that and that
obviously you know the risingtide raises all ships.
The whole marketplace is onfire, as we know, and all the
derivative, uh, wall street, uh,equity companies that are
connected to the blockchain orBitcoin or the crypto ecosystem.
(26:29):
They're all on fire.
Now, all of a sudden, peopleare driving their investment
advisors crazy, going I want toget in Bitcoin, I want some
Bitcoin.
What do we have Bitcoin?
How come I don't have Bitcoin?
How come you're not offeringBitcoin to me?
They must be going crazy.
How come you're not offeringBitcoin to me?
They must be going crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh, absolutely.
And if you think about it, weare at the.
He's not even president yet.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Right and wait until he implements all of these
pro-crypto programs and actuallynow lives a very light-touch
(27:19):
regulatory environment that letsthese crypto economy grow,
naturally.
This is everyone listening.
I want you to listen verycarefully.
This is the equivalent ofeveryone in your town riding
(27:43):
horses, in your town ridinghorses and then you see, a Henry
Ford on a team roll down themiddle of your town and everyone
looks at it and goes.
Well, what the heck is that?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Man, I love that analogy.
I got to steal that one Ben.
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's yours, it's so true.
And what I want people torealize is right now and I say
this with nothing but love in myheart for every one of your
listeners Run.
I'm really hearing that rightnow, unless you close one of my
(28:38):
clubs, I open your phone, downboth and give me a zap.
Oh, thank you, sir.
Download Jimmy's app.
Oh, thank you, sir.
And just start listening andjust learn as much as you can,
as fast as you can.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And just research, because we're at the point where
you can basically say that myclubs are the first.
I guess they'd be theautomobile dealerships that are
(29:22):
sweeping across the nation thatare sweeping across the nation
and everyone's going to run into these clubs and go give me
one of them beautiful bottlebeads Not teas, but beads, right
exactly, give me some Bitcoin.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I love it Model beads .
I love Bitcoin.
I love it Model Bs.
I love that.
I love that, Ben Right.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And we will run a car wash and park it out front.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
And you'll put gas in it.
You're not going to have anelectric battery in it, are you?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
No, you are going to be involved in the community.
You know you are going to beinvolved in the review.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So, ben, let's go down the list now of what
currently, what Bitcoin, bencrypto clubs are open and what
ones are in the planning stage.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Oh, okay, we have one in Sarasota, florida, one in
Lussey, boston, massachusetts.
Wow, then we got one inNashville, tennessee.
We're launching one in St Louis, missouri, which is where I'm
(30:48):
originally from.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We're launching one in Texas, right by Dallas, nice,
and I'm also launching anall-inclusive resort in El
Salvador.
That's wild.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's wild, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The next year we'll probably open another eight and
you and I actually talked about,because I love where you're at
out there.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Ben, we need to open one out here, and I want to work
with you on making that happen.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Absolutely.
Let's make it happen, becausewhat we could do is actually set
you up an office in there whereliterally all of your listeners
could walk in and go.
What are you doing, brother?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
That'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And it's a thing.
They're dealing with atrustworthy individual that they
listen to every week or everyday or whatever, and that's what
they need.
They need someone they trustand you and your history, your
(32:14):
reputation you are the perfectperson for one of these clubs
should want these clubs.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, I think everything it stands for is so
great and so necessary.
Ben, you know, recently I'vehad the honor of doing lectures
college lectures for blockchainengineering, business school
students and faculty, and thequestions that I get from them
(32:49):
are so great and I will speak tothem about bitcoin, the
blockchain space.
Uh, just me just laying outsome myths, some stating some
facts to them.
And I talk to them on anon-technical level because I
tell them you need to understandthe importance of what you're
(33:10):
studying to the everyday guy andgal out on the street.
I'm not here to talk tech toyou, talk exahash rate with you
or anything else.
I'm here to talk about the realworld impact of Bitcoin and the
whole blockchain ecosystem andwhat you folks are teaching and
studying.
And I got to tell you I canfeel it from them they're
(33:33):
thirsty for the knowledge andthey're not even getting it.
A lot of them are not evengetting it in school because,
unfortunately, the professorsneed to catch up on the learning
curve.
You know, yeah, professors needto catch up on the learning
curve, you know yeah.
So that's a role that I thinkyou will continue to spread and
that I want to continue tospread on the airwaves.
(33:57):
I just got started in Las Vegas.
We're on in Phoenix.
My radio affiliates arespreading.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
That reminds me we're actually launching a club in
Las Vegas, probably April or Mayof next year, just before the
conference Yep.
Well, we got a lot to talkabout.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Ben.
Oh, yes, we do, my friend.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Because we can put that word out there big time.
Yep, we are at the beginning ofthe digital gold rush.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
We really are.
It's fascinating and this wasthe first time, as we know, that
the retail investor, the momand pop, everyday guy and gal on
the street, were able to getinto the space before Wall
Street.
Think about that.
(35:01):
You know, ipo comes out.
You know, it's just, it's it'sall the money's been made by the
time the public gets a chanceto get a piece of the pie.
This time.
(35:22):
This is the first time infinancial history that everyday
people got to front run themachine, the Wall Street machine
, and they couldn't get in untilJanuary 11, the day after all
those, all those companies gotapproved for their spot bitcoin
etfs.
So what an amazing opportunityfor so many people.
But you keep you and I keepdrilling this in.
You got to do your own research.
Now I what I do, ben, fornewbies, I'll you know they'll
(35:44):
listen to me and everything.
I'll'll say okay, take a stepback.
All right, let me send you to.
Just let me give you a coupleof little easy assignments to do
to start you on your way.
Have you read the Bitcoin whitepaper?
Okay, satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper.
It's nine pages long.
Might take you a few times toread it.
(36:04):
Be patient with yourself.
Take your time, the more youread it and the more you hear
the terminology, the more it'llall start to make sense to you.
Then I send them to my blog.
I have a blog site that hassimple explanations of all the
terms and then, if you want togo deeper into each of those
terms, you can and learn.
(36:25):
I also am sending them becausepeople love to watch videos, as
you know, and love to watchmovies.
I mentioned it a little whileago.
God bless bitcoin.
I tell them to view that.
You'll start to see the moraland ethical attributes of
bitcoin and the unethical andimmoral attributes of our
(36:47):
government-printed fiat currency.
That'll start to connect moredots for you.
And then, if you're a reader,read Safedine Amos' the Bitcoin
Standard, the Austrian economist, who goes back through the
history of all thesecivilizations how they
hyperinflated their fiatcurrencies out of existence,
(37:08):
what was used for goods andservices seashells, salt, all
that good stuff.
He doesn't even mention theword Bitcoin until three
quarters of the way through thebook for the readers out there.
And then I tell them look atwhat you can find on Michael
Saylor, who's the biggestBitcoin flag waver out there
(37:29):
with the biggest reach.
Who's got after today?
Lord knows.
I think they've got like 18billion dollars worth of Bitcoin
on the balance sheet now.
He owns well over a billiondollars himself personally over
a billion dollars himselfpersonally so obviously a lot of
companies.
He's got the program Bitcoinfor Corporations, trying to
(37:52):
teach other companies how to goon the Bitcoin standard, how for
them to save Bitcoin, and youand I have been pretty soon and
I think we're really close andsome people are doing this
already.
If I do something for someoneand we're really close and some
people are doing this already ifI do something for someone or
we're going to do a businessdeal, do I have the option of
getting paid in fiat or bitcoin?
(38:13):
We know which one I'm going totake absolutely hello.
So what do you think?
What do you think is is goingto be?
What propels that tipping point?
(38:34):
I think we're at it right now.
I think this time came quicker,quicker than we imagined.
Who would have thought we'dhave all?
Have all these tailwinds and,like you said, the mood change
two weeks ago for this space andthe clarity that it's bringing.
Even the naysayers are notnaysaying, they're actually
(38:57):
saying okay, I haven't knownmuch about this, but I guess I
better look at it Now.
Today we set an all-time high.
It was just about at 94.
It now.
Today we set it off all-timehigh.
You were, it was just about at94.
What's the media going to belike and what's the front page
headlines going to be like soon?
It could be tomorrow, it couldbe next week, it'll be next
(39:18):
month.
Once we hit a $100,000 price.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
That's going to be an economic earthquake that sends
a tsunami of attention right tothe Bitcoin.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And that tsunami of attention is going to be
accompanied by a tsunami ofwealth.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Well, look at how many trillions of dollars in
cash has been sitting on thesidelines, ben.
It's a staggering number.
Okay, trillions have beensitting on the sidelines.
Not to mention the fact thatall these pension funds now have
an on-ramp ability to get intothe space with the spot Bitcoin
(40:30):
ETFs.
Not to mention that all theseasset management companies
BlackRock, fidelity, grayscale,wisdomtree go down the list.
They have to back the ETFsone-to-one with the underlying
asset Bitcoin ETFs, one-to-onewith the underlying asset
Bitcoin.
So there's basically we're justabout at that supply shock
(40:55):
situation because, with thehalving this past April and the
supply getting cut in half,there's more demand out there
from all these companies alone,not to mention foreign countries
that are selling their ETFsAustralia, hong Kong and the
market never closes.
It's a 365, 24-7 marketplace.
So I actually think people aregoing to be shocked at the
(41:20):
moonshot that we're just aboutto go on.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah on yeah, I would not actually be surprised if,
(41:53):
over the next three months, weare sitting $185,000 each
Bitcoin, and I think that'sactually being a little
conservative.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
That's going to be incredible and we remind
everyone that you don't needthese numbers that ben and I are
banging back and forth.
You don't need to buy, youdon't.
If you can't buy a wholebitcoin, you can buy a fraction.
There are 100 million satoshissats in every bitcoin.
But you can buy ten dollars,twenty dollars a week.
(42:22):
You can, dollar cost average in.
Just get in in the pool, learn,learn, learn, learn how to do
the right thing and, as Ben said, download the CryptoFits app
and also follow Bitcoin Ben onYouTube.
He does great podcasts, greatinformation.
(42:45):
Just Google him.
He's everywhere.
Bitcoin Ben.
If you're outside of Dallas, ifyou're in Boston, if you're in
St Louis, if you're in Nashville, make sure you drop on by the
Bitcoin Ben Crypto Club and tellthem you heard Ben talking
about it on the radio here withCrypto Fitz and that you want to
(43:06):
be a part of the family andcheck it out.
You're going to make a lot ofgreat networking connects there.
It's almost like a chambermixer.
I would think when you hadthose barbecues in Nashville,
ben.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yes, yes, we have.
We have a lot of entrepreneurswho just they have been ruined
with inflation and they'relooking for some place where
they can stay and actually wouldtake their wealth.
(43:43):
Well, we got it.
We have the answer.
We have the lifeboat, the oldsystem, it's the Titanic.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's it, it's done.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
We have a space of inflation and it's going down,
and it's going down and it'sgoing down fast.
So I highly recommend that yougo to Jimmy and download his app
(44:21):
.
If you're near our club.
We also have a website you canjoin and I think if you use it,
jimmy's app and our website.
You're going to get caught upreally quick.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Well, that's awesome.
Quick, well, that's awesome.
And don't you wish that thetools that you and I have were
around when we first startedlooking at this space?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Oh, God, yeah, it would have been a whole lot
easier.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, but you know we wouldn't know as much and we
wouldn't be.
Hey, we are a representation ofproof of work.
Baby, that's the name of thegame.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Amen Proof of work Bitcoin, ben.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I cannot tell you what a pleasure it is for you to
take time.
I know you're traveling andyou're on your way to your club
in Boston.
We urge everyone to go to yourwebsite.
Give us the complete website,sir.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
It is actually www.
Bitcoin Ben Crypto Club dot com.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Bitcoin Ben.
Crypto Clubs plural no no club.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Club Bitcoin, ben Crypto Club dot.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Plural no, no.
Club ClubBitcoinBenCryptoClubcom.
Check it out.
Check the site out, you'll see.
Ben holds meetups, in-personget-togethers.
He comes into all the townswhere the Bitcoin Ben Crypto
Clubs are creating a reallygreat positive.
This is just a positive thingfor you to pay attention, to Get
(46:09):
out of the distraction ofeverything else that everybody
tries to take you away.
Everybody wants you to spendyour money on stuff that's going
to evaporate.
Well, it's time to really digin.
None of us have been given abasic financial education.
I mean going through gradeschool, high school, college.
They still are not teachingyoung people about money.
(46:34):
What is money?
What's the history of money,what's the future of money,
what's going on with our moneyand why, all of a sudden, we're
hearing nothing about this debtspiral.
You know, ben, in New York Citymany years ago I'll never
forget I'm talking about late80s You'd walk down 6th Avenue
(46:54):
near the New York Library andthere used to be a tote board up
there showing the nation's debtevery second.
How it would go up right andwe'd look at it and just people
would look at it and go, hmm,isn't that interesting?
And they'd keep walking and notgive a second thought to it.
The debt got so high that theyran.
(47:15):
They were electronic billboards.
They didn't have any more spaceto add another zero once the
debt really really kicked inright.
So now I think people arefinally connecting the dots, and
I actually think people arefinally connecting the dots and
I actually think people arepaying attention more to their
finances than ever, because theyhave to as well.
(47:35):
That free money ride went onfor a long time.
There's 1% 2% interest inmortgage rates and all that, and
things are going to getstabilized, but it's going to
take a little while andeverybody needs to be patient.
You need to make the rightmoves because, as you can see,
this is a fast movingmarketplace now, because we're
(47:57):
at that tipping point where it'sgone mainstream.
I mean, when you have a reporton mainstream television
networks about Bitcoin andcrypto, you know something's up,
right, ben yes, sir so, ben, Ican't thank you enough for for
for chatting it up with me,brother oh hey, I.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
I also want to say one more thing.
Thank you so much.
You could have easily retired,enjoyed a wonderful environment
of where you live.
You know, play golf.
(48:42):
It's always gorgeous there,except with its butt as hell.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But see, I'm a desert rat, it doesn't really bother
me, right.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
But you actually chose.
You know what I'm retired, I'mactually going to get out there
and I'm going to help my fellowman and I'll tell you what.
That's off to you, vince.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Well and right back at you, ben.
Thank you, sir.
We both know what we get out ofdoing this and it's just the
man sent me.
I was pointed in this direction.
I really feel like this is mycalling and I get so much
pleasure out of it, and it'swhat gets me out of bed every
(49:33):
morning with a kick in my step.
And what a gift to be lifelearners.
You know we have to encourageeveryone.
People get discouraged there.
They get bored with their JOBs,they don't like their boss,
they're not happy doing whatthey're doing.
There's a whole new world outthere for you to explore and
(49:54):
it's actually as simple as maybewatching one less movie a week
or maybe not watching fourfootball games in one day.
Maybe it's taking a little timefor you and your, your husband,
your wife, your kids.
You can have a crypto night.
(50:14):
You can have a bitcoin nightokay, people have themes when
they're at home and parties andeverything.
You can have a bitcoineducation night.
There's so much education outthere with what ben has what I
have, not to mention all theyoutube videos for those out
there with what Ben has what Ihave, not to mention all the
YouTube videos for those outthere who are spreading the word
and are involved in this space,and we promise that it will be
(50:38):
an exciting ride for you and ifwe can even get you interested
and curious looking at it, thenwe've done what we can do.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Absolutely.
And how I explain it is whenyou were younger, you did not
know how to drive a car.
You had to learn.
You had to.
I'll say that you had to driveit, that you had your dad or
(51:10):
your mom.
Right.
Someone who knew what they weredoing.
Yeah.
And what that unlocked wasevery highway, every road,
everywhere you wanted to go, youcould now go.
Well, this technology, thiscurrency, this transition is
(51:40):
your highway to wealth.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
No doubt, ben.
I love your analogies, I loveyour comparisons.
You give him, michael Saylor, arun for his money.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Oh, absolutely.
He has a little bit more moneythan I do.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Oh, I love him, I'm glad to catch him.
Hey, everybody's trying tocatch him, ben.
Thank you so much, sir.
I love him, I'm glad to catchhim.
Hey, everybody's trying tocatch him, ben.
Thank you so much, sir.
Have safe travels and let'sreconnect like soon and lay out
a game plan, because I need tohave you and I need to have a
(52:22):
little tete-a-tete.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
Absolutely Fitz.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Love you too.
Thank you so much for yourdedication to the Bitcoin
community and what you're doingand spreading the education.
You're doing it in such anunlike anyone else.
You've built something that'sso impressive and people have no
idea what it takes to putsomething, put anything together
, let alone what you've beenable to build, and and and the
(52:52):
trajectory that you're on atthis time, uh, the stars are
aligning perfectly for thesebitcoin ben crypto clubs and I
look, uh, look, look forward tohelping you spread the vision,
ben.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Well, thank you, sir.
All glory goes to God.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
God is great, that's for sure.
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