Fusaka, ETFs and Fed Shifts: The Perfect Storm for Crypto Rallies

In this episode, we break down a pivotal moment for digital assets where market momentum, regulation, and Wall Street finally collide. We start with the charts, unpacking Bitcoin’s powerful rebound back toward the $100,000 level after a bruising stretch of volatility. You’ll hear how sentiment flipped from fear to cautious optimism, what’s driving renewed risk appetite, and whether this rally looks like the start of a new leg higher—or just another bear market trap. From there, we zoom in on the institutional front, where long-awaited shifts are finally materializing. We discuss Vanguard’s move to open its doors to crypto ETFs on its platform and what that means for mainstream adoption, retirement accounts, and long-term capital flows. We also look at major US banks running stablecoin and crypto pilot programs in partnership with Coinbase, signaling that traditional finance is no longer sitting on the sidelines. On the technology and altcoin side, we cover the successful Ethereum Fusaka upgrade and how its scalability improvements could change user experience, DeFi, and on-chain activity. We then dissect the flood of capital into Spot XRP ETFs, which are racing toward the $1 billion inflow mark, and explore why institutional investors are suddenly paying attention to XRP’s narrative again. But it’s not all winners. The episode also examines MicroStrategy’s financial challenges in the wake of the recent correction, including the pressure on its share price and the risk of being removed from the MSCI index. We explore what that means for its bold Bitcoin-as-treasury strategy and for other corporates considering similar moves. Finally, we connect the macro dots. With the UK formally recognizing digital assets as property in new legislation, we look at how legal clarity might shape global crypto regulation. And we break down the US Federal Reserve’s quiet end to Quantitative Tightening (QT), discussing how liquidity, interest rates, and central bank policy are feeding into the latest crypto rally. If you want a clear, big-picture walkthrough of why crypto is suddenly back in the spotlight—and what might come next—this episode has you covered.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the crypto news rundown. If you've been anywhere
near the charts lately, you know it has just been
an absolutely wild period of volatility.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's been a real rollercoaster.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah. I mean, Bitcoin hits an all time high, then
it plunges nearly thirty five percent, and then it just
seems to rebound almost as quickly exactly.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
But I think underneath all that market noise, all that
day to day chaos, there's a massive shift happening. It
feels almost irreversible. At this point.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You're talking about institutional capital.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Institutional capital is just flooding into the digital asset space,
and it's forcing everything else to adapt at well, at lightspeed,
the infrastructure, the regulations.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
All of it, and that institutionalization. That's really the central
theme we want to dig into today. We're going to
start by setting the global macro context, because at the
end of the day, what the FED decides to do
still dictates the risk appetite for the entire market.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It really does. From there, we'll move into the major
asset specific news. We'll look deep into Ethereum's critical Fusaka
infrastructure upgrade, which just went live. We'll talk about bitcoin's
really volatile search for utility, you know, beyond just being
digital gold. And then of course the institutional surge around
XRP and stable coins, and we.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Have to finish by looking at the other side of
that coin, the rising security risks and the latest regulatory
enforcement actions that are shaping this whole landscape.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's a critical moment for sure. But before we jump
into any of that, we have to start with our disclaimer.
It's absolutely essential, of course, so just to be super
clear for everyone listening, this discussion is strictly for informational
and educational purposes.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's it, nothing more.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It is not and it should not be taken as
financial advice, investment advice, or any kind of trading advice.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
And we have to say cryptocurrencies are highly volatile. They
are speculative assets.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Extremely volatile. Investing in them inherently carries significant risks, I mean,
including the potential loss of all of your capital. So
we strongly, strongly advise you conduct your own research, do
your own research, dyor before you ever make an investment decision.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
All right, with that necessary context set, let's look at
that big picture, because the crypto market is really operating
under the shadow of the Federal Reserve right now.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
It always is to some.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Extent, right And the main story among crypto bowls has
been pretty straightforward for a while now. It's been you know,
FED rate cuts are coming.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, that's the hope.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
And that should drive down bond yields, weaken the dollar,
and just create this perfect environment for risk assets like
bitcoin and ethereum to well to run.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And that narrative has certainly fueled a lot of the
recent optimism. It probably contributed a lot to the recent
price action we saw, you know, both the highs and
the pretty sharp corrections that followed.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So what are the markets actually pricing in right now?
Is it still just hope?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Well, it's getting pretty concrete. The market is currently pricing
in an eighty nine percent chance of a rate cut
in December.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Eighty nine percent. That's a huge, huge swing.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's a massive swing from the really cautious outlook we
saw just earlier this year. The general consensus now is
that the Fed is going to kick off an easing cycle.
They'll cut rates by twenty five basis points on December tenth.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And what range would that bring us to?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
That would bring the range down to three and a
half to three point seventy five percent. And most people
see this as just a continuation of an easing trend
that many believe kind of quietly already started back in September.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And some of the big institutions are calling for even
deeper cuts.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right, Oh yeah, you're seeing major investment banks like Goldman
Sachs for instance, projecting that rates could fall all the
way down to three percent next year.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And this anticipated easing, which just means chipper money and
you know, lower returns on traditional savings. That is the
structural fuel that risk assets need, crypto included. When the
guaranteed return from safe assets drops, investors are just forced
to look for yield elsewhere, and digital assets are often
a big beneficiary of that shift.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
But here's the confusing part. The bond market seems to
be reading from a completely different script. It does despite
all this bullish talk about rate cuts, the ten year
treasury yields, they're just stubbornly staying above four percent. So
why is that resistance so important for crypto inversers to watch?
What is it signaling?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
It creates this this deep structural headwind that you just
can't ignore no matter how much speculative froth. There is
in the crypto market a headwind. How so well Analysts
at Ing, for example, have specifically flagged the potential for
a decisive breakout above four point one percent in that
ten year yield, and that four point one percent level

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is kind of a tipping point both structurally and psychologically.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Okay, break that down structurally, What does a move past
four point one percent really mean?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Structurally, it means the market has fully priced in the
reality of the soaring national debt. I mean, we're talking
over thirty eight trillion.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Dollars now, an unbelievable number it.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Is, And it means the market is demanding a m
much higher sustained premium to hold long term US debts.
So it's not just about inflation anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So, it's about debt risk precisely.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
If yields hard and structurally above that four point one
percent level, it signals that the market views this massive
US deficit spending as a permanent fixture that leads to
what economists call physical dominance.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
And a higher interest rate environment directly competes with risk assets.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
It competes with everything. It increases the cost of capital
for corporate borrowing, for mortgages, and definitely for the speculative
leverage we see in the crypto space. If the tenure
yield settles in above that level, it could weigh heavily
on all risk assets, including crypto, well into twenty twenty six.
And that's regardless of what the FED does in the
short term.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So it's the difference between just temporary volatility and a
real structural recalibration of risk.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's a perfect way to put it.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes, and speaking of liquidity, we saw a quiet but
pretty significant action from the FED recently. It might indicate
just how delicate the banking system's equilibrium is right now,
especially with that rising debt.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's a crucial detail that a lot of people missed.
The FED recently executed a massive thirteen and a half
billion dollar liquidity injection into the.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Banks thirteen and a half billion.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And what's really notable about that figure is that it's
the second biggest liquidity blast, as they call it, since
the peak of the COVID crisis.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So what does that signal? Why do it so quietly?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, these large quiet injections, they usually happen through things
like the reverse repo market. They're designed to pump emergency
cash into the banking system without all the fanfare, without
causing a panic. Right and while it's not directly aimed
at crypto, what it signals is that policymakers are very
actively managing banking liquidity to prevent things from freezing up.

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It adds the sort of hidden layer of support to
the financial system, and for the crypto world, it just
reinforces the narrative that the traditional system is far from
self regulating. It strengthens the case for a non sovereign
asset as a necessary safety valve.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
That sets the stage perfectly to pivot to the institutional
titan that everyone listens to. Blackrock the eight hundred pound
Gorilla exactly. Their twenty twenty six investment outlook basically lays
out a thesis for why crypto and specifically bitcoin, is
becoming a necessity, not just some niche play anymore. What's
driving their surprisingly bullish view on BTC.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
It's all about that sovereign debt and systemic fragility we
were just talking about. It's not about speculation for them anymore.
In their outlook, black Rock paints a well a decidedly
barissed picture of US bonds and the overall US economy.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
They point the finger directly at the national debt.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Directly at it. They cite the soaring national debt, which
again has officially passed thirty eight trillion dollars. They see
this fiscal fragility as the defining market outlook for the
next couple of years.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's just a mind boggling figure. How do they connect
that huge number directly to a reason to buy bitcoin?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Their thesis is very clear and very structural, argue that
this rising federal debt will actually accelerate the adoption of
bitcoin as the true rival to gold.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Arrival to gold.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes, in a world defined by monetary uncertainty and deficit spending,
Bitcoin serves as the ultimate non sovereign hedge. Gold is
the traditional hedge, of course, but BTC offers something different,
an immutable, decentralized, and mathematically capped supply. So black Rock
views BTC as a hedge against inflation, against uncertainty, and

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crucially against the failure of traditional hedges that are tied
to the dollar.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
This is such a monumental shift from just a few
years ago. I mean, this isn't some hedge fund manager
on Twitter. This is the world's largest asset manager building
a core investment strategy around digital assets as a necessary
component in a fragile economic world.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
It's a total sea change, and their CEO, Larry Fink,
he's reinforced this idea by describing tokenization as nothing less
than the next generation of financial markets.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
So this isn't just about launching a s BODYTF for them.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, no, no, this is about a complete top down
strategy to integrate digital assets into global finance. They see
this as the future rails of ownership and value transfer, and.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
They're not just talking about bitcoin. Their view on stable
coins also signals this fundamental acceptance of the digital asset structure.
They're seeing them as a necessity, not a curiosity.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's exactly where the rubber meets the road. Black Rocks
Global head of market Development Samara Cohen. She recently stated
that stable coins are no longer.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Niche, no longer niche.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And she explicitly called them the bridge between traditional finance
and digital liquidity. Now just think about what that means.
They see stable coins, these digital dollars as the crucial
link that allows traditional institutions to access the speed and
efficiency of digital ledgers without having to deal with the
volatility of native tokens like BTC or ETH, so it's

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a way for.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Them to dip their toes in securely.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
It's a crucial, modest, but meaningful step toward a fully
tokenized financial system. It means integrating stable coins into mainstream
payment systems, cross border payments, and maybe even as local
currency alternatives and emerging markets.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Before we move on from BlackRock's macro outlook, they also
raised an interesting point of caution around AI, which has
been the other major narrative driving markets and secking up
huge amounts of capital.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, their caution was a much needed reality check. I
think Blackrock was pretty wary about the speed of AI expansion,
particularly in the US and Europe.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Why is that.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well, AI spending is currently running at about three times
historical levels, but they flagged that this incredible growth is
running headlong into some very serious physical constraints.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Physical constraints like.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
What specifically the amount of land and the sheer amount
of energy supply required to power the massive data centers
that AI infrastructure needs. It's creating a real bottleneck.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
So the digital world is hitting the limits of the
physical world exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
The core insight is that the massive capital expenditure needed
for AI growth. We're talking and estimated five to eight
trillion dollars by twenty thirty. That has to eventually be
justified by an economic return that far outpaces long term
US growth. If the AI ambitions outrun the ability of
the physical world, you know, the land, the power grids

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to actually support them, then the investment thesis gets very,
very tricky.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's fascinating. Okay, let's pivot now from the macro environment
to a major infrastructure development that just happened in the
Etherium ecosystem. We have to talk about the Fusaka upgrade.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
This is huge for Ethereum and it's all about scalability
and robustness. On Wednesday, Ethereum activated this highly anticipated Fusaka upgrade.
It's the second major code change of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
And you have to remember, right, the future of Ethereum
is fundamentally as a settlement layer for all these much cheaper,
much faster.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Layer too networks precisely, and Fusaka is designed to support
exactly that vision.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
So what problem is Fusaka actually solving for say the
average user, more for the institutions that are building on Ethereum.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It directly addresses the massive influx of transaction batches coming
from those two networks. So think about polygon arbitrum optimism.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
All the big ones, right.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
These l twos, they bundle up thousands of user transactions
and then they post them as these large compressed blobs
of data onto the Ethereum main chain.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay, blobs of data. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
And traditionally, every single validator on Ethereum had to download
and verify the entire data blob, which, as you can imagine,
created a significant computational load, required huge bandwidth, and resulted
in high costs, especially as these blobs started getting bigger
and bigger.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
In this upgrade, which is centered around a system called PEERDAS,
that changes this whole validation process to make it more efficient.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Precisely, PEERDAS stands for peer data Availability Sampling, and it's
a really elegant technical solution. Instead of demanding that every
validator download the entire, say, one megabyte data blob, PEERDAS
uses some sophisticated cryptographic techniques to do what. It allows
individual validators to check only small slices of that data blob,

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just a fraction of the total size the validator sample.
These slices randomly, and if enough of these random slices
are verified successfully, the network just assumes the entire blob
is available and valid.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Ah. I see the implications there less computational load, less
bandwidth needed, and therefore lower costs.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Correct, It radically reduces the computational load and the overall
costs for both the validators and crucially for the layer
two networks that are settling onto ethereum, and that cost
saving gets passed down to you, the end user, in
the form of cheaper Layer two transaction fees.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
So in technical terms, I think I saw the phrase
it lowers the operational threshold for node participation significantly.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
That phrase is absolutely key.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Why is that so crucial for institutional.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Acceptance Because it's a profound decentralization play. By making it
cheaper and less computationally demanding to run a node, you
widen the validator based dramatically the barrier to entry. For
what we call solo stakers, you know, people running nodes
from home without joining massive centralized pools, that barrier dropped significantly.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
And widening the base reduces concentration risk exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Financial markets, especially the big institutional players who demand infrastructure stability.
They rely on resilient networks with no single point of failure.
If the barrier to entry stays too high, staking just
centralizes into a few major service providers, which is a
huge risk. Fusaka actively combats that by empowering smaller participants,

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and improved decentralization directly contributes to making Ethereum a more stable,
institutionally palatable settlement layer.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
And meanwhile, despite all the market volatility, and we saw
ethereum plunge six percent overnight to twenty one hundred dollars
before it rebounded by over ten percent just recently.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
A wild swing.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, but the long term bullish narrative seems to be
underscored by this massive corporate accumulation. It suggests institutions are
looking way beyond these immediate swings.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
We are seeing the really strong players accumulating even as
other digital asset treasuries or dats are feeling the heat
and pulling back. The conviction among the serious institutional players
is just staggering. Like who, well, take bidmin immersion technologies.
They're already the largest corporate ether holder. They accumulated approximately

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six hundred and seventy nine thousand eth wow, which is
worth about two point one three billion dollars just over
the past month, in one month, in one month alone,
and their target is just extraordinarily ambitious. They want to
accumulate five percent of the total eath supply. As of now,
they've completed sixty two percent of that goal six.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Hundred and seventy nine thousand eth in one month. That
is a serious conviction play. It signals a major belief
in Ethereum's utility structure, especially right after an upgrade like Fusaka.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
It signals they view Ethereum not just as a speculative asset,
but as essential infrastructure that's going to define the next
decade of finance. And we saw another another really unusual
financing move that highlights this same long term view, completely
divorced from the short term volatility.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Right. That was Republic Technologies they used to be known
as Beyond Medical Technologies.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's the one they raised one hundred million dollars through
a convertible note offering specifically for future Ether purchases. And
the terms were what was so striking, They.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Were really unique for a dat in this kind of environment.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I mean, the note offered a zero percent interest rate,
zero percent and it included no requirements for investors to
post collateral. If the price of ETH falls, normally, with
a volatile asset like this, you'd need hefty collateral or
really high interest to mitigate the risk.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
So what does that structure allow them to do?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It allows Republic to avoid having to spend cash to
service debt or default on interest payments, which has been
a major issue that's plagued other leverage digital asset companies
during downturns. Instead, investors are essentially providing pure capital. They're
betting purely on the asset appreciation of ETH itself, not
on the borrowing mechanics or the company's operational success. A

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clean high conviction bet on Ether's price trajectory.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So, given all this institutional movement and this massive accumulation,
what are analysts saying about the price action going forward
beyond this recent volatility.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
They're pointing to what some are calling an infinite demand
loop that's shaping the ethereum price prediction.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
An infinite demand loop, what does that mean?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
The analysis suggests that the price is being shaped more
and more by these converging, non reversing forces. So one
you have the anticipated spot etf inflows once US regulators
finally approve those, they'll create this constant passive demand. Two,
you have continuous demand from staking rewards. Eth is constantly
being locked up and removed from the liquid supply to
earn staking yield. And then three you have the network's

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continuous feeburn mechanism from EIP five five point fifty nine.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Right, which permanently removes a portion of transaction fees from
the supply.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Exactly so these three factors combined, analysts argue, are creating
a structural supply squeeze that will just continue you to
define Ethereum's long term trajectory. It makes every correction just
a short term liquidity event in what is fundamentally a
structurally bullish market.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
And this institutional support isn't just limited to buying the
asset right, it's also funding the core technology that keeps
the whole network safe and resilient. We saw a major
investment in network reliability this week that connects high finance
directly to core Ethereum engineering.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
That's the one hundred and five million dollar series around.
It was led by Jane Street into a company called Antithesis.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
And what is antithesis.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Antithesis is a software testing tool. They market themselves as
providing the infrastructure for never down software, which is obviously
essential for high speed trading and financial markets.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
And there's a direct link to Ethereum here.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
A critical one. The Ethereum network itself previously used antithesis
to stress test conditions right before the merge, so it
demonstrated its capability in preventing catastrophic failures in these incredibly complex,
decentralized environments.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
So you have a major high speed trading firm, Jane Street,
leading one hundred and five million dollar round into the
very software that's stress tested Ethereum's biggest ever upgrade.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's a huge vote of confidence.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So what exactly is this deterministic simulation testing that they
do and why does a firm like Jane Street care
so much about it?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
So, deterministic simulation testing is the ability to run a
system like a blockchain or a trading exchange and replay
complex failures or edge cases exactly as they occurred. It
ensures that errors are perfectly reproducible, which.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is different from traditional quality assurance.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Testing, fundamentally different. In traditional QA, errors are often fleeting
and really hard to pinpoint. But Jane Street they're dealing
in milliseconds and billions of dollars. They require zero tolerance
for technical failure, So by investing an antithesis, they're betting
that this technology, which proved its worth in the merge,

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is essential for building the resilient, safe financial systems of
the future, whether those are TRADFI or digital asset platforms.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
The connection Now Jane Street is betting one hundred and
five million dollars on prevention, precisely because the risks from
things like automated hacking and technical failures are rising so
fast exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Researchers recently noted that AI agents are now capable enough
to identify exploitable weaknesses and smart contracts much faster and
more comprehensively than any human analyst could. That's a scary thought,
it is, and as these AI models get cheaper and
more capable, automated hacking could rapidly spread from just defy
exploits to a much wider array of software and critical

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infrastructure bugs. This makes tools like Antithesis, which proactively surface
these complicated, hard to reproduce edge cases before they blow
up in a live network, absolutely essential for any institution
that wants to minimize their operational risk in the digital
asset space.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
All right, let's shift gears to Bitcoin. If Ethereum is
focused on expanding its infrastructure and decentralization with upgrades like Fusaka,
Bitcoin is currently navigating a wild roller coaster market while
desperately trying to find sustainable utility beyond just its digital
goal status.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
It has been a profoundly volatile few months. It's really
tested the convention of even the most long term holders.
Bitcoin hit an all time high back in early October,
only to plunge nearly thirty five percent over the last
two months, and it dragged the entire market down with it.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
We have seen some recent recovery, though we have it's.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Pushed it back up to trade around ninety three thousand dollars,
up from a low near eighty three thousand, But analysts
are pretty clear on this. BTC needs to decisively break
above the ninety eight thousand, five hundred dollars resistance level
to formally reverse this week's long decline and convince the
market that a structural uptrend is back in place.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
And some analysts are pushing back hard against the idea
that this volatility signals the start of a new crypto winter.
They're calling it a mid cycle reset.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
That theory, yeah, it's being pushed by research firms like
glass Node and Fastenara Digital. They argue that this recent
plunge is a necessary flushing out of all the excess leverage,
a mid cycle reset, not a prolonged downturn.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
And do they have evidence to back that up?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
They have some pretty powerful evidence. They point to the
structural flow data. Since the November twenty twenty two second low,
Bitcoin has attracted over seven hundred and thirty two billion
dollars in net new capital flow.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Seven hundred and thirty two billion.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
And here's the striking part. That single figure is larger
than all previous market cycles combined. It's just the foundational
flow of capital into the network is just unprecedented.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
That figure is staggering, and it sounds incredibly bullish. But
I have to challenge that data a little bit. If
Future's open interest has climbed to a record sixty eight
billion dollars and perpetual contracts are accounting for ninety percent
of the activity, how can we be sure that seven
hundred billion dollar figure isn't just heavily inflated by leveraged
wash trading and internal market movements rather than real long

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term capital coming in.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
That is a critical question and it really speaks to
the fundamental dilemma of measuring the health of a hyper
leverage market. Now, data firms like glass Node they do
attempt to filter out internal exchange transfers and wash trading,
but the high proportion of perpetual contracts certainly complicates the picture.
Perpetual contracts, just by their nature, they allow massive positions

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to be open with very minimal collateral, so that means
the nominal value of transfers can look huge even if
the underlying net new capital coming in is much smaller.
And this is why the volatility is so intense. The
market is simultaneously attracting massive long term institutional capital and
functioning as a hyper leverage derivatives casino. It just makes

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the flow data structurally noisy, and.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That leads directly into the risk concentration issue. The recent
volatility included a single liquidation event that wiped out over
half a billion dollars in positions overnight.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That liquidation wave was brutal, and it perfectly illustrates the
danger of that derivatives concentration future's open interest has indeed
climbed to a record sixty eight billion. And if you
look closely at that structure, perpetual contracts, those are the
instruments that continuously reset funding rates and don't expire. They
account for over ninety percent of all activities.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
So the risk gets massively concentrated.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Massively because when prices swing, margin calls just cascade across
the entire system, and that leads to the massive wipeouts
we just saw. So for all the institutional talk, a
large segment of this market remains a hyper leveraged casino
and it's vulnerable to these rapid, large scale corrections.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
And yet despite that casino atmosphere, Bitcoin is also being
measured against traditional finance networks and it's actually holding its
own as a settlement layer, which suggests real utilities being
found even if it's not being properly priced.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yet it's an incredible contrast, isn't it, high speculation versus
high utility. Over the last ninety days, the Bitcoin network
process nearly seven trillion dollars in.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Transfers seven trillion.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That massive throughput actually exceeded what major card networks like
Visa and MasterCard handled in the same window, so that
statistics strongly reports the view that Bitcoin is evolving beyond
just a passive store of value into a critically important
global settlement rail. It's capable of handling large scale institutional
value transfer securely and quickly.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Still, the traditional finance critics, they remain deeply skeptical, especially
about Bitcoin's capacity to function as an actual currency.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh, they absolutely do. The Financial Times recently published a
critique arguing exactly that that Bitcoin cannot function as a currency.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Period And what was their argument? Based on?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Their argument hinges on a pretty complex economic concept. It's
called downward supply in elasticity.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, we need to unpack that jargon for everyone listening.
What does downward supply inelasticity mean for Bitcoin's use as
a currency.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
So think of it this way. A currency needs to
be flexible. If demand for that currency suddenly drops, let's
say during an economic panic, a traditional central bank can respond.
They can tighten the money supply, they can raise interest rates,
they can even destroy money supply maintain the currency's value.
That's elasticity, and Bitcoin can't do that. Bitcoin because its
supply is fixed and defined by an unchangeable mining schedule.

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Cannot do that. It can't respond to a drop in
demand by reducing new supply or destroying existing supply. The
supply is inelastic, so the FT argues that the structural
rigidity prevents it from ever truly stabilizing as a medium
of exchange. They suggest, if you're worried about dollar debasing deficits,
you should just buy gold, and they note that gold
has in fact outperformed BTC since the summer.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
But the Wall Street bulls, they seem totally undeterred by
these critiques, especially after this recent dip. They just see
the volatility as temporary.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Totally undeterred. We saw Eric Trump, for example, publicly stating
that the dip is nothing more than a great buying opportunity.
He added that he's never been more bullish on the
future of cryptocurrency, and.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
This conviction comes even as his own cryptolink firms have
faced massive volatility.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Massive including American bitcoin Core plunging nearly forty percent after
a major share onlock event. The big players seem to
be taking this volatility in stride. They view it as
just an inevitable part of the path toward modernization and
the realization of that settlement. Utility.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
This argument that Bitcoin needs more utility just keeps popping up.
If it's ever going to achieve that multi trillion dollar
total addressable market that proponents always talk about, it has
to be more than just number go up.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
That's the core challenge. It's the final frontier for bitcoin,
and this realization leads us directly to the proliferation of
layer two solutions that are designed to overcome Bitcoin's native
limitations on speed and transaction cost.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
And one project that's getting a lot of attention is
Bitcoin hyper.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
That's right. Bitcoin hyper aims to transform Bitcoin from a
static asset you know, something you just hold, into an
actively usable one. It wants to provide the high performance
execution layer that many argue has been missing all along.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
So how does it do that? How does it integrate
technically with the base layer without compromising Bitcoin's famous security?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
What do this by utilizing the SVM engine.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Wait, the SVM engine, not the EVM that Ethereum uses.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Right, the Salona virtual machine. It's known for its incredibly
high throughput and efficiency. It's capable of executing thousands of
transactions per second, which far outpaces THEYM virtual machine in
raw speed.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
So they chose it for speed.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Bitcoin hyper is choosing the SVM to enable the kind
of instant, high frequency applications like DeFi trading or gaming
that Bitcoin's base layer simply cannot handle.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
So how does it anchor all of that high speed
activity back to Bitcoin for settlement? I mean that seems
like the critical trust component.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It anchors everything back to Bitcoin for final settlement via
what they call a canonical bridge canonical bridge. The turn
canonical here is key. It means this bridge is the
one agreed upon sanction mechanism for a locking Bitcoin on
the base chain and then issuing a corresponding SVM compatible
wrapped version inside the hyper ecosystem. The security model ensures

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that the total supply of that wrapped asset can never
exceed the amount locked on the Bitcoin main chain.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
So you get cryptographic certainty.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
You get cryptographic certainty that settlement is ultimately guaranteed by
Bitcoin security, no matter how fast things are moving on
layer two.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And what does that enable practically for developers and for users.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well, it makes it possible to run high throughput applications.
We're talking complex DeFi protocols, fast placed gaming, instant payment applications,
all leveraging bitcoin's core security. For holders who want more
than just passive appreciation, this is really compelling because it
unlocks utility. It allows them to tap into that multi

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trillion dollar total addressable market that requires more than just
a monetary premium.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
And then demand for the native hroypr token rises from there.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Exactly because it's used to pay for gas, for staking,
and for governance within that application layer. It creates an
economic feedback loop that supports the entire ecosystem.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
So the technology is adapting to make bitcoin usable, but
the culture is also going mainstream, I mean literally moving
into the halls of power. We have to talk about
the opening of the Pubkey Bar and steakhouse in Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
This is a remarkable cultural and political milestone. Pubkey, which
is expanding from its successful New York location, is opening
a massive twelve thousand square foot location in DC's former
Penn quarter space on December fifteenth. Twelve thousand square feet,
and it's far more than just a bar. It's being
pitched as a dedicated bitcoiner hub. It's complete with a

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podcast studio and event space, and even the Bitcoin Policy
Institute is subleasing space right in the back.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
A bitcoin think tank meets a steakhouse only in DC. Yeah,
what's the mission behind creating a physical bitcoin hub right
in the heart of the lobbying capital.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Well, the co founder Thomas Pakia, who is a former
derivatives lawyer, he described it as the most approachable way
for somebody to say, I've been reading about this thing,
I don't get it, but I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
So it's about education and outreach.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Their goal is overtly political and culture. They want to
counterbalance the vast amounts of crypto lobbying dollars being deployed
in DC by broader crypto interests. They want to be
a grounded, physical voice for the normal bitcoin user and enthusiast.
And they're planning weekly educational programs in fireside chats aimed
at lawmakers and staffers who might be curious but intimidated

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by the technology.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
And they're making a very sharp distinction between bitcoin and
the rest of the market. That's a political move in itself. Oh.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Absolutely. They have a strict, almost fundamentalist policy. It is
a bitcoin bar, not a.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Crypto bar, Bitcoin not tripto.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
The chief operating officer, Dan Collowey explicitly distanced the venue
from meme coins like dogecoin, Bonk and the trump Coin.
He called them wayward cousins and suggested that investing in
them is like being in a casino. It's a crucial
cultural statement designed to position Bitcoin as serious digital sound money,
distinct from the broader, often frivolous, speculative digital asset space.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I love that cultural friction. So if you go to
pug key, how do you pay? Is there any incentive
for using BTC?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
You can still pay with cash or card, but Bitcoin
payments are definitely encouraged. They do it via a QR
code scan using the Square payment system. But there is
one item designed to be a clear incentive for adoption
and a nod to the culture, which is the one
hundred dollars orange fill Whale cocktail.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Orange fill Whale that sounds like a pure cultural reference.
It is.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's a zombie tiki drink that comes with a bunch
of swag, and it can only be purchased with bitcoin.
The name is a direct combination of two iconic terms
in the community. Okay, the orange pill this means being
converted to the Bitcoin ethos and ideology, and the whale,
which is the term for a large investor. It's basically
a signifier that you are a serious money spending bitcoiner.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's fascinating, But what's the actual adoption like, Well, that's
the interesting part.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Despite the focus, only about seven percent of Pubkey's overall
sales in New York currently come from bitcoin p payments,
So it suggests the primary draw is the community and
the curiosity, not yet the payment rail itself. It's that
Truman Show moment they describe. You might think you're just
in a regular bar until you look up and see
the bitcoin price sticker on the wall.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Let's move down to the sector that bridges traditional finance
and digital assets, most directly institutional payments, and we have
to focus on XRP in stable coins. XRP is certainly
having a moment, trading around two dollars and twenty cents,
and it's shown a recent bounds of over nine point
five percent.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
The assets narrative remains focused resolutely on its institutional payment
utility and of course the legal clarity it gain following
its recent court wins.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
And within the retail community there's this enduring obsession with
certain accumulation benchmarks.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh yeah, the long running debate over holding ten thousand
XRP is still very much alive and well.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
The ten thousand XRP.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Club commentators called is quantity, which is currently about a
twenty two thousand dollars investment the psychological and strategic benchmark
necessary for and this is a quote unimaginable financial freedom.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
A bold claim.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
It is, and while some acknowledge it's becoming harder for
retail investors to reach that level as the price climbs,
it remains this really potent aspirational goal within the community.
It just reinforces that long term speculative view and.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Ripple CEO Brad garling House. He also recently threw out
a bold prediction that frames this entire market cycle.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Brad garling House is extremely bullish on the macro outlook
and he's positioning XRP for this coming way of institutional adoption.
He predicted that twenty twenty six will be the most
bullish year in cryptohistory.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Well what basis.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
He says it will be underpinned by macro tailwinds like
potential rate cuts and accelerated institutional adoption through ETFs. He
even offered a precise prediction for Bitcoin, suggesting it will
hit one hundred and eighty thousand dollars by late December
twenty twenty six, driven by cryptoetfs still being in their
earliest formation stage.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
We're seeing a fascinating contra between retail sentiment and institutional
flows in XRP right now. It kind of mirrors what
we were just discussing with bitcoin.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
The data really suggests a market split. Retail investors are
reportedly producing their exposure, maybe taking profits or rotating into
other high growth areas, but conversely, institutional entities are entering
through these new regulated mechanisms.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Specifically the ETPs.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Exactly, approximately three hundred and sixty five million XRP, which
is valued at roughly eight hundred million dollars, moved into
exchange traded products or ETPs in the latter half of November,
and this coincided directly with the launch of the Canary ETF.
It's a clear signal that large institutional desks are using
these regulated vehicles to gain exposure. They're viewing XRP as

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a digital asset commodity through traditional financial instruments, and.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
XRP is also making some concrete strides in tokenization, particularly
in the real world assets space, which is a major
institutional trend right now.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
This is real world adoption on the XRP ledger, the
XRPL that validates that utility narrative. Dubai recently launched the
Middle East's first government backed property title deed tokenization directly
on the XRPL, and they're not the only ones following suit.
The country of Georgia is also actively considering the tokenization
of its land registry. This move into RWA's leverages the

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XRPL speed, its low transaction cost, and its confirmed regulatory
status in certain jurisdictions. It aligns perfectly with Garlinghouse's utility
driven vision for cross border settlement.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Before we move on to stable coins, we should probably
glarify some of the persistent myths about XRP. I mean
misconceptions often follow assets with complex regulatory histories. We can
use Ripplecto David Schwartz's points to clarify the fundamentals here.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
It's crucial to get the technical fundamental straight because the
XRP ledger often gets conflated with the company Ripple. David
Schwartz has repeatedly clarified several key points.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
That's the first one.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
First, Ripple does not control the XRP ledger. The network
is public and it is decentralized. It operates via consensus
among independent validators who are running their own servers. Ripple
simply develops on the ledger and holds a large amount
of the token, but they cannot unilaterally decide on network changes.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Okay. And the second key point is about the supply, right.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
The XRP supply is fixed at one hundred billion tokens.
It cannot be minted. Unlike pitcoin, which has mining rewards
or Ethereum, which mints new tokens for stakers, the XRPL
has no mining or validator reward mechanism to create new units.
This ensures supply stability.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
So the supply is capped and the network is decentralized.
Those are really critical distinctions for institutional.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Due diligence absolutely and Schwartz also emphasized that the ledger
actually existed before the company Ripple was even formed, which
just underscores its decentralized nature and its independence from any
single corporate entity. Understanding these technical facts is essential for
understanding why institutional investors are now comfortable moving into things
like xrpetp.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Okay Let's transition to the three hundred and ten billion
dollar stable coin market, which is rapidly becoming that actual
bridge that Blackrock described, and Coinbase seems to be leading
the charge on integration with US banks.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong confirmed it. He said the company
is actively partnering with some of the biggest US banks
on pilot programs.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
And what are these pilots focusing on.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
They're pretty foundational. They're focusing on stable coins, on crypto custody,
and on using crypto for trading settlement rails. Armstrong's message
to the broader banking industry was clear and pretty blunt.
He said the best banks are leaning into this as
an opportunity to modernize their infrastructure, while the ones fighting
this trend are going to get left behind. He sees

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it as a generational technology shift.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
And this shift isn't just happening in the US. We
are seeing major global infrastructure plays, especially in emerging markets,
where stable corn solve real payment friction that traditional banking
just can't handle efficiently.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh. Absolutely, you need to look at the powerful partnership
between Opera and SI Low. They're expanding their work to
accelerate mini pay, which is a non custodial stable coin
wallet that has already grown to eleven million activated wallats
eleven million, and they're focusing heavily on Latin America. They're
integrating Minipay with massive local payment systems like Mercatopago and

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Brazil's pix system for stable coin's real time payments.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
The adoption figures in Brazil are just astonishing.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
They really are. In Brazil, the stable cooin adoption is staggering.
Over ninety percent of all crypto flows are now stable
coin related, and stable coin purchases account for over half
of all exchange activity across Brazil, Argentina and Columbia.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
So this isn't speculation, this is a real utility.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
This is pure utility. Stable Coins provide citizens and businesses
a hedge against their local currency volatility, and they're an efficient,
cheap method for cross border trade that just bypasses the slow,
expensive correspondent banking networks.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
We also saw some new entrants backed by serious institutional money,
targeting compliant cross border B to B payments.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
That would be fin It's a payments startup founded by
former Citadel engineers. They just raise seventeen million dollars in
a series A to launch a stable cooin app that
specifically targets compliant cross border B to B payments in
emerging markets, So.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
They're building with compliance in mind from day one.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
They're targeting regulatory compliance as a feature, not as a hurdle.
Their launch just underscores this growing consensus that blockchain based
settlement is moving closer to the financial mainstream because of
the institutional demand for faster, more efficient rails in that
B to B context.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
And when you talk about stable cooin empires, you have
to talk about Tether. They operate the largest stable coin
valued it over one hundred billion dollars, and their investment
profile is getting well. While they're spanning far outside of crypto.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Tether's market cap is huge, but their investment portfolio is
what's really revealing. It shows a strategy to build a
sprawling technology conglomerate. We're talking about investments in video streaming,
AI infrastructure, bring computer interfaces, farmland, and even satellites.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
It's a huge range.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
They invested in Rumble, the AI infrastructure firm, and committed
a massive one hundred million dollars in advertising spend. Rumble
CEO noted that Tether's vision aligns perfectly with their focus
on becoming a freedom first AI infrastructure firm, and.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
They're also backing payments and compliance firms right.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
They also back firms like xrax, which focuses on USDT
based cross border B to B payments in emerging markets,
and Crystal Intelligence, which is a blockchain analytics firm dedicated
to combating illicit stable coin use.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
That portfolio suggests a massive, well funded conglomerate spanning deep
into global infrastructure and technology. But Tether also remains mired
in controversy regarding compliance and regulatory scrutiny. That's where the
tension lies.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
This duality. It's the core tension of the entire stable
coin market. You have this massive world spanning growth contrasted
with these lingering compliance issues. The US Genius Act, which
established a regulatory framework for stable coins, mandates that they
must be backed one to one by liquid safe assets
like US Treasury bills, and it requires frequent, transparent audits

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of those reserves. That's a new.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Standard, but controversy continues to surround Tether and USDT specifically
despite their growth.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
That's because the perceived lack of transparency in regulatory jurisdiction
continues to haunt them. The economist famously referred to tether
as a money launderer's dream currency, specifically because of its
global reach and its ability to be transferred outside of
traditional banking scrutiny.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
And there are specific examples of this.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Reports have highlighted that at least one point four billion
dollars in USDT tokens passed through a wallet linked to
the Cambodia based Q one Group. This is a group
that was flagged by US authorities for allegedly laundering billions
tied to North Korean hackers, human trafficking, and vast scam operations.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
That is as our reminder that as digital assets scale
and merge with the global economy, the stakes for compliance
and security are raised exponentially. Tether's massive success relies on
its speed and reach, but those same characteristics make it
incredibly attractive to bad actors.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Exactly, it creates a necessary conflict. The rapid expansion into
AI satellites and global payments is impressive, but that expansion
requires ironclad compliance. The fact that the same asset is
being implicated in high profile international crime suggests that the
infrastructure for illicit finance scales just as fast as the
infrastructure for legitimate finance.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Let's shift our focus now to that darker side of
crypto security, regulatory enforcement and the horrifying physical risks that
holders can face. We have to start with the most
extreme security risk, the rise of violent physical attacks terrifyingly
known as wrench attacks.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
This is truly chilling and it highlights the real world
danger of holding high value digital assets without having extreme
security protocols in place. Cryptocurrency holdings are like bearer instruments.
If you possess the keys, you possess the wealth, and
that makes holders immediate targets.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Detail the case of the Ukrainian student in Vienna it
just underscores the severity of this risk.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
The extreme case reported recently involved a twenty one year
old Ukrainian student in Vienna. He was reportedly beaten in
a hotel garage, kidnapped, and then tortured extensively to force
him to reveal the passwords for his two crypto accounts.
Horrific After the accounts were emptied, the attackers, a nineteen
year old and a forty five year old Ukrainian national,

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doused him in gasoline and burned him to death in
his car before fleeing with large amounts of cash and
the stolen crypto.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
And the data suggests this type of targeted violent robbery
isn't an isolated incident, it's a growing trend.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Unfortunately, the trend is growing significantly. The security researcher Jamison Lopp,
who meticulously tracks these incidents, has documented over sixty violent
wrench attacks targeting crypto holders just in twenty twenty five.
That represents a disturbing thirty three percent increase over the
entirety of twenty.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Twenty four and where these concentrated.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
These incidents are concentrated, particularly in high wealth regions like France,
North America and the UK.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
A thirty three percent growth in violent crime targeted at
crypto holders is alarming.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Why is this happening now? Is it just better reporting
or attackers becoming more sophisticated.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's likely both, but sophistication is the defining factor. Attackers
are no longer relying on simple phishing scams. They are
performing advanced surveillance to identify high net worth individuals who
are known to hold substantial digital assets. They understand that
recovery is nearly impossible once the keys are extracted, and
as the value of crypto holdings increases, fueled by the

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institutional adoption we've been talking about. The financial reward for
these violent, high risk attacks escalates. It makes criminals more
willing to employ extreme methods like kidnapping and torture.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Moving from physical violence to financial crime. Regulators are stepping
up in forced action against companies that allegedly failed to
protect consumers or mismanage their funds. We saw a major
ruling against a bitcoin ATM operator.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Right the bitcoin ATM operator Coinimy was ordered to return
over eight point three seven million dollars to customers in
Washington state and also to non Washington customers.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
And what do they do? The Seattle based firm allegedly
claimed unredeemed paper vouchers as company income between January twenty
twenty three and December twenty twenty four. These were vouchers
that users purchased at kiosks but then failed to redeem online.
The problem was their failure to disclose this practice or
turn the funds over as abandoned property to the state.

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The state ordered them to halt all non withdrawal operations
in Washington until they return the funds. It emphasizes that
user funds cannot be unilaterally appropriated as corporate revenue.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
We also saw a significant legal setback for one of
the world's largest exchanges, Finance, concerning a major theft and
allegations of negligence.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Florida's Third Appeal Court reopened an eighty million dollar lawsuit
again Finance, after a plaintiff claimed one thousand BTC was stolen.
The plaintiff alleges the exchange was negligent in not freezing
the funds immediately and in aiding and laundering the stolen
property after the theft was reported.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And this follows their massive four billion dollar settlement from
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Exactly, it follows their four billion dollar money laundering settlement
with the US government where they pledged to drastically improve
their compliance and security measures. The reopening of this lawsuit
puts Binance at risk of a revival of more claims
concerning failure to secure or freeze stolen assets. It really
challenges their commitment to customer protection.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
On the project side, we saw controversy erupt around the
shiba Enu ecosystem team for how they handled a recent
bridge hack, and it illustrates the difficulty of recovery without
taking formal legal steps.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
This is a complex case that shows the difficulties of
recovery even when the evidence is crystal clear. An on
chain sleuth successfully mapped the laundering path of two hundred
and sixty eighth from the Shabbarian Bridge. He traced it
through Tornado Cash and to deposits at coucoin.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
So what's the issue?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
The issue is that the SCHIPA ENU Ecosystem team reportedly
failed to file a formal police report regarding the breach.
And this is critical because exchanges cocin in this case
often require subpoena power, formal legal requests or a formal
case number from law enforcement to cooperate in freezing and
recovering stolen assets. Without that formal legal action, even strong

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on chain evidence gets stuck in the legal system, leaving
the victims without any recourse.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Let's check it on the original mean coin, dogecoin, with
all the institutional focus elsewhere, what's the latest of the
doge market? Is it still being driven by major hype cycles?

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Dogecoin is seeing a definitive cooling period, at least among
large players. Recent data shows that large holder activity crashed
to two month lows. Only eleven whale transactions were reported recently,
which is far below what's considered a healthy range for
an asset of.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
That size, So what's driving the price?

Speaker 2 (48:58):
This suggests that big players are active scaling back their exposure,
or they're just waiting for a dramatic external catalyst. The
current price bounces appear to be driven by smaller, scattered
retail traders.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
And structurally, the long term prognosis remains bearish for some
analysts because the underlying utility just has it materialized exactly.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Analysts point to a fundamental structural issue. It's a lack
of utility and developer inertia. Dogecoin has very little real
use as a payment mechanism. Only about twenty one hundred
and thirty six businesses worldwide except it, which is.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
A tiny fraction compared to something like.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Visa, a tiny fraction of the one hundred and seventy
five million businesses that accept Visa. Furthermore, the development ecosystem
remains really sparse compared to other layer ones. This means
it struggles to attract the talent needed to build genuine
applications and integrate necessary infrastructure upgrades. One prediction even forecasts
doge could sink as low as five cents in twenty

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twenty six due to these long term structural problems unless
there's a massive social media or celebrity intervention.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Before we wrap up the security and fraud section, it's
worth noting the proactive steps being taken to fight consumer scams,
especially during the holiday season when fraud always spikes.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Right Ripple CEO Brad garling House launched the Scamberry Pie
public awareness campaign. It's specifically aimed at fighting that holiday
surge and online scams. The campaign focuses on educating users
about red flags things like fake giveaways, impersonations, suspicious links,
and urgent messages designed to prompt quick emotional action. The

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goal is to encourage open conversations within families and communities
to break the silence that fraudsters rely on to.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Operate, and state regulators are on high alert as well,
which suggests these scams are hitting citizens across all jurisdictions.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yes, Tennessee's Department of Commerce and Insurance, the TDCI warns
citizens about fraudster's dishing out convincing schemes that leverage the
complexity of the crypto space. The assistant Commissioner urged citizens
to just take a moment to verify who they're dealing
with before handing over money. The common theme here is
that verification and just slowing down are the best defense

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against crypto fraud.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Finally, let's end this section on a progressive regulatory note.
A significant development out of the UK regarding property law
that lays the legal groundwork for all the tokenization we've
been discussing.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
This is a massive legal step that should be closely
watched globally because the UK is a foundational common law jurisdiction.
The UK's Property Act of twenty twenty five clarifies that
a digital or electronic thing like bitcoin or an NFT
can indeed be the object of personal property rights, even
if it doesn't fit the classic English law categories of
property like a physical object or a claim against a debtor.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
So it's essentially creating a third category of property, specifically
for digital assets. What does that mean for asset holders
and the future of tokenization?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
In practice, it strengthens the position of owners considerably. It
provides a foundational legal identity for digital assets, moving them
out of an uncertain legal gray area. It allows English
courts to treat bitcoin and other tokens as an independent
object of property rights. This provides a much clearer defined
level of legal protection, especially when owners are seeking to

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protect their rights against unlawful access or challenge technical failures
by service providers like exchanges or wallet providers. It's a
foundational legal recognition of digital assets that drastically reduces legal
risk for institutional adoption within the UK.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
We've covered a tremendous amount of ground today from the
macro environment pushing bitcoin adoption because of sovereign debt concerns
to the granular engineering upgrades and ethereum with Fusaka and
the institutional integration of stable coins all over the world.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
The key tension is really clear. On one side, you
have this unprecedented institutional adoption. Blackrock is embracing bitcoin as
a necessity against sovereign debt. Coinbase is partnering with major
US banks on stable coins, and millions of dollars are
flowing into xrkey ETPs. This institutional title WI is simultaneously

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funding the underlying infrastructure. It's making the rails cheaper and faster,
as we saw with the Fusaka upgrade and the new
Bitcoin Layer two projects it's paving the way for real utility.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
And on the other side of that, we have the
dark side of that exponential growth.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Exactly unprecedented retail speculation leading to massive leveraged wipeouts, ongoing
regulatory battles over negligence and money laundering at major exchanges
like Finance and with entities like Tether, and terrifying physical
security risks like the rise of these violent wrench attacks,
which show just how valuable crypto holdings are to criminals.

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The infrastructure is maturing, but the risk ledger is deepening
right alongside it.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
So what does this all mean for the core decentralized
ethos of crypto that started this whole movement almost two
decades ago.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Well, here's the provocative question for you to consider as
you digest all this data. If the world's largest asset manager,
black Rock, is now arguing that thirty eight trillion dollars
in sovereign debt makes bitcoin a necessity and major global
banks or adopting stable coins as a key component of
future financial architecture, does that mean the decentralized ethos of
crypto has fundamentally succeeded by becoming the institutionalized solution, or

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has it fundamentally failed by being absorbed into the very
traditional financial system it originally set out to replace. The
answer to that question will define the next cycle.