June 16, 2025 • 65 mins
Husky Talk returns with a familiar face, the wonderful former UConn Women's Basketball National Champion Cassie Kerns. She has developed into a gifted artist with a ton of talent, along with being a mental health specialist. Cassie works as a model and loves being a mother. Back again by popular demand, she answers your questions!She shares how an eating disorder is an addiction. Cassie helps a 10th grade girl who is 6'4 and being bullied because of her height. She shares being that tall is a Superpower, and since the girl already has scholarship offers for Volleyball, she can laugh knowing college will be free. Cassie is an exceptional listener and chooses her words carefully before speaking. After receiving a ton of feedback in questions, she took the time to answer as many as possible. A therapist, artist, model, and loving mother, Cassie is happy she has finally figured out life. She shared a lot of personal information on this episode and it's because Cassie cares about helping others. Now, if she can finally figure out all that is wrong with me!
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battleofthetrenches.com. And now for the Lady of the
Hour. And she is back by popular
demand, the lovely Cassie Kearns.
Cassie, it is so wonderful to see you again.
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And thank you for having me, I always enjoy it.
Thank you for having me, Cassie.I would have you every day if I
could. You, you, you provide so much to
the show and you get more feedback than than anyone.
People really appreciate what you what you say and what you
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bring to the table and you have definitely made a difference.
So congratulations and you know,I, we appreciate everything that
you have shared. And I think that his help people
and made people not as concernedabout asking for help.
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And, and that is something that is an epidemic because of the
stigma behind mental health and certain issues that people just
won't ask for help and things get worse and until they just
get out of hand. So I think that your
contribution has been just incredible.
So. Yeah, I think the biggest part
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of it is people hearing that people have gone through stuff
one, but also they normalize what they're experiencing so
that they feel that they're not alone and what they're
experiencing. And I think you know, people,
people see you, people see the talent and, you know, winning a
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national championship, playing at UConn, everything that you've
gone through and seeing what youknow, Cassie's amazing.
Like if Cassie had problems and Cassie was able to work through
them, then I most certainly can work through them.
So I, I, I think that's made a difference, especially with our
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audience. One of the questions we had came
from somebody just outside of Orlando.
Her name is Alicia. She says hi, Cassie, you have
been a pleasure to listen to. I enjoy every time you talk with
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Steven. She spelled my name wrong, but
that's OK. She her question is, I know
you're from Indiana. What brought you to Florida?
So I'm a Pisces. I love water.
I've always loved water. I grew up on Lake MI.
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So you have to talk to me like I'm a three-year old.
What's a Pisces? A Pisces is an astrological
sign, and you have certain datesin which you're born.
And so yeah, so like each person, like if you have.
Pisces. Yeah, of course.
And so you'll have different characteristics pertaining to
that sign. And a lot of times it's very
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insightful to understand a little bit about who you are.
So like, I'm a Pisces, which is super creative, super empathic,
super, it's a culmination of allsigns together, but very
peaceful. Very, I think I said creative,
but also a healer. Yes, yes.
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And another thing is a fish is Pisces.
So it's a water sign. So automatically we're usually
attracted to water. And so I've always gravitated
towards the water. Again, grew up on Lake MI
Whenever I wanted to go for peace at places I would, I would
go sit at the beach and kind of gather my thoughts.
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And here's a little bit more about me.
So when I was in Indianapolis, Idated A powerboat racer and
yeah, and they came down to Sarasota is part of the rotation
for races. So I fell in love with it, the
place Sarasota. And so one day, obviously, I'm
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not with the person anymore, butI woke up one day in
Indianapolis. I was working for myself.
I was doing art and modeling. And I was like, why am I still
here in the middle of the country?
And so I, I, I signed a lease sight unseen.
I had a friend pop by the place.I'm like, please check it out, I
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need a place to live. So she did.
And then I packed up everything and.
Drove down here. Oh my God.
Do you prefer freshwater or the ocean, would you say?
Or it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Each one has this different characteristics.
But also salt water, salt is a very healing property.
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So yeah. All right.
So a Pisces, so you said that's based on your birthday.
Is that like the the month? So it's so the Pisces, it's
going to be a a day frame like aopen window.
So like Pisces is like the end of February until like the
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middle of March. OK, so you have to tell me what
I am. When's your?
Birthday, April 22nd. If you're April, so you're
probably going to be in Aries oron the cusp of Taurus.
Are they bad? No, they all have wonderful
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qualities. All have wonderful qualities.
OK, good. I'm just I'm just boxing on you.
So I'm either an Aries or a Taurus, OK.
And so. I challenge you to look it up
when you're done. OK, OK.
Yes. I don't know your signs to AT
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you. Know yours I I I get what?
You're I I know mine because I need to understand me.
So that'll help me. Yeah.
Oh, OK. Yeah, it's it's a different.
I was just curious, is it something like if you're working
with someone, is it something that you ask them like when
their birthday? Oh, you don't?
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No. No, not at all.
But I mean, well, like if I'm inthe hospital, I'm going to
confirm their date of birth because I have to do that.
Obviously at intake you're goingto take their date of birth, but
if it's not something important to them, if it doesn't manifest
to them, I'm not going to approach it.
If they're open to it, I may start talking about it and say
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hey, this may be beneficial to understand yourself a little bit
more. Yeah.
And it's, it's based on ancient astrological stars things.
So there there's a lot of peopledon't believe in it.
That's perfectly fine. And there's some people, a lot
of people that do so. OK, I will.
I will definitely look it up because I want to see how
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accurate it is. You have a see this is from
Casey, she says. Hi Cassie.
My question has to do with mental health.
I believe it gets pushed aside in our country, I've been told,
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and they tell us to suck it up. Do you see improvements being
made that will show our need formental health care improvement
or so? So one, I just want to like
validate your question and the thing that you propose, because
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it's true, a lot of places in our country, they tell us to
minimize kind of what we're experiencing and kind of the old
fashioned way of the American way is pull yourself up out of
your bootstraps and keep pushing.
But guess what, that doesn't help.
And, and I, I think there's a lot of professionals out there
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that are really pushing forward with mental health.
Like in the hospital years ago, mental health was not considered
anything. And now we have a whole mental
health team in the hospital to address patients, but also to
address providers, meaning we make more consistently flow with
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care. So there are changes, but it's
it is happening slowly, but I dobelieve that there's changes.
There are changes happening and you even you even seen it,
witnessed it in your own hospital, so it's definitely
moving in the right direction. Moving in the right, right
direction, but I will say it needs to still improve where
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it's at. What would you say would be the
biggest improvements that you would like to see happen in the
next few years? Oh wow.
In the next few years, I really think that our children
population is being left in the dark and that the mental health
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needs to kind of not infiltrate but be more present in
elementary schools, middle schools and high schools to kind
of prevent, be preventative service to when you get to
college and you fall flat on your face or you end up with
addiction. And I think a lot of the issues
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that we experience as adults stem as children.
So if we can interject and interfere in that population, I
think there could be a transformation in what people
experience in life. That makes a lot of sense
because I remember going to elementary school and high
school, and I don't think we even had a school psychologist
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or any therapy whatsoever. So yeah, that makes sense.
OK. This is from Christine.
She says Hi, Cassie. I play volleyball in Texas.
I'm in 10th grade now I'm I'm 6 foot 4 which makes my overall
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life miserable. Everyone says I should be
grateful having scholarship offers.
Apparently she's been offered scholarships.
Truth is I feel like AI feel like a disgusting giant.
Boys are scared. I tried acting like it's no big
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deal and I can't win. Girls don't like me, teammates
are jealous. I went to our formal with a few
friends and I didn't get to wearhigh heels.
I want to be normal. How did How do you manage being
tall? Wow, that's a.
So First off, I want to give youa big hug.
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I am sorry. Wow.
That was that was a lot of information and and that little
paragraph well. She she wrote more.
I didn't read it all. But yeah, but one thing, that
one thing that my that my mom really ingrained as in me was to
always be proud of my height andalmost equate it as a
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superpower, as if because no oneelse has your height and no one
else could be you. And I know it was very different
as being a tall woman because I would always wear high heels
wherever I went. I don't care if I'm a head
taller than people. I will wear the stilettos.
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I will wear the seven inch heelsbecause I know I'm a badass.
But I. But I feel your pain and I
understand what you're going through is very, very
uncomfortable because you're at an age where you want to be
accepted, you want to be liked by your peers.
And my advice is to, well, I know you asked how do I manage
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being tall? But I think that has to do a lot
with self esteem. And I think a lot of assistance
that could be provided to you asmaybe talking to a therapist and
kind of work on those things andkind of changing your
perspective on rather than focusing on the negatives, see
all the positives. Because with that paragraph I'd
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be like. Powered by it.
For sure, of course. And I kind of would tell you
like, listen, no one else is 6/4.
That is your superpower. And guess what?
You're going to go to college for free.
You can say suck it to everyone else.
She can right? Did it ever bother you to date
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someone who is shorter than you?No that OK that's what I say
cause girls always say that and I never I always wondered like
what the big deal was but. No, my thought is is if a
shorter guy is confident enough to be around me in high heels,
then they are confident in themselves so that they don't
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have low self esteem and so I don't have to worry about their
self esteem. Right.
OK, that that again. So so like my husband, he's
shorter than me. He's.
I think he's 511. Right.
But yeah, he has no issues goingout with you at all, no issues
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with you being taller than him because he's a lawyer and he's
confident and self-confidence iseverything.
I it's very important. I totally agree.
You had a question from Maria. I don't think it's Maria Conlon,
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but it might be your your son isso cute with so spelled with
like 8 OS. Yeah, that's.
So cute, yeah. How do you balance motherhood
with your other interests? She said.
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That is a really good question because when you become a mom, I
will say there's something in your brain that just clicks and
you just know what to do. Yes, there's challenges, but you
kind of had the mother instinct.And I know I had to sacrifice a
lot of things, meaning I didn't still don't create a lot of
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artwork like I used to, but I kind of transformed a level of
understanding of how I could still be creative.
And be a mom. And so I can fill myself up and
still do those things in a different way, right, Right.
All time. Is limited, so I I get that.
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And also the balance, the work life balance of being able to
take care of myself too, not neglect myself, meaning doing
self-care, make sure I'm workingout.
I go to therapy, the therapist goes to therapy and also do
things that even if it's for 10 minutes, that brings me joy.
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Yeah, that makes a big difference.
It does, it does. And I and I think a big part of
it is because my thinking a lot of times in the past is like all
or nothing thinking. That's why I think I'm so good
at things because I'm so entrenched in it.
But after having him, he really helped like, balance that
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thinking process out, which I thought was pretty amazing.
And I know before Luke was born,a lot of the things like my
addictions, the eating disorder,I always describe it like you
can be sober, but that eating disorder is still in the room
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somewhere. It's just you don't talk to it,
you don't acknowledge it. But when I had him, that whole
feeling of an eating disorder just went away.
Oh, so during your pregnancy it went away or it started?
I I wouldn't say like when I sayit went away, yes, I was sober
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from eating disorder behaviors and thoughts for years, but I
wouldn't I would be lying to saythat it didn't exist in my room
or in my space. Does that make sense?
So when he came and he was born,that whole thought was just
completely eradicated. So like it, it was never present
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anymore. So that was really a freeing
moment, very therapeutic moment actually.
Wow, wow. And I I've heard you say this a
few times, so do you consider aneating disorder an addiction?
Absolutely. Really.
OK. Absolutely, Absolutely.
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Can you talk to me like I'm a three-year old?
Can you just explain? Why so?
So imagine, let's see so a substance, let's say you drink
alcohol, you, you consume alcohol.
And usually the consumption of alcohol or substances is because
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it's a coping strategy. Your needs aren't getting met
Very true. So an eating disorder is the
same way. It's a coping strategy for your
needs not getting met, but unfortunately food is needed to
live. Exactly.
So imagine your substance being presented to yourself every
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single day saying you have to take this, but an alcoholic just
has to stop drinking. Right, right.
And you have food being presented to you every day,
right? Right.
Right. And so let's say anorexia.
Anorexia is the anxious side. Anorexia is where you're trying
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to control everything in your life, but the only thing you can
control is what you consume and what you perceive of your body.
But eating disorders are usuallyassociated with I hate myself.
And so you take out the hate on yourself rather than directed at
other people. So it's it's more associated
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with like self loathing and and just low self esteem.
Low self esteem, low self worth.It's a common.
Eating disorders are common to be paired with borderline
personality disorders. There's also multiple diagnosis
usually intertwined in there like PTSD, right?
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Right. Because a lot of people that
experience eating disorders alsoexperienced abuse trauma, right,
Right, right. Yep.
OK, and so the binge, the binge purging disorder all has to do
with anger because it's such an angry act.
So people that binge and purge usually stuff all their feelings
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down with food and it gets to a point where it gets so much and
they get so angry that they regurgitate it, which is
expressing their anger but really taking it out on
themselves. So it makes you feel better, but
it just self perpetuates the disorder and even harder to get
out of. If you don't mind me asking, and
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you don't have to answer this, Ijust my own curiosity, how long
would you say that you you had an eating disorder?
Well, they're complex because they breed.
They breed on this foundation usually of your upbringing and
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if you were given tools, healthycoping strategies.
OK, so that's that. And then I'm trying to think, I
think it started maybe my obsession with like food of like
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really trying to control becauseI wasn't getting playing time.
So I was trying to control what I could and that was how fit
could I be out in shape? Could I be?
And I got in really, really, really good shape.
You were always in great. I thought you were always in
great. Shape.
Well, the mind plays tricks withyou and it says I'm not good
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enough. It must be this.
Rather than having a conversation about it, you
internalize it because that's what I've always done in the
past is internalized things and try to figure out a solution of
my own terms. And so I got in really good
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shape. I was praised for my physique
and how I was able to accomplishthings.
And then that just kept escalating.
It just wasn't enough for me. And then it got to a point where
like, like I would just consume coffee during the day.
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Would it would would it make youlike physically I'll to see food
sometimes? No, I would just be because it
started off with anorexia. Right.
And then it gets to a point where your body's like, all
right, if I get a taste of food,I'm not going to be able to
stop. And so, and so I would start
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eating and I'm like, Oh my God, I can't physically stop.
And so I would get to. So I had an anorexia binge
purging type. So it was a combination of
anorexia and bulimia, which is not good.
Geez. Both OK.
Yeah, I could I I definitely should have been dead a couple
times, but by the grace of God, I'm still kicking.
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Saying like your weight got thatlow that it was that dire of a
situation. Yes, so, and, and the point and
The thing is that's intertwined with eating disorders is that
you're so mentally unstable thatyou you think that you are
obese, you think you are this thing that doesn't even exist.
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So when you look in a mirror, what you see is not reality.
And the only way to really see the reality is to start eating
food, having intensive therapy and really kind of reframing
your core roots and reframing kind of what you see.
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Yeah, no, I, I just, I remember them saying like when when
you're an active addiction, you see yourself completely
different than how other people see you.
Absolutely. And that plays a huge part in
it. That's why I was always told.
And that's why I say that eatingdisorders are addiction.
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Right. OK, so that makes because it's.
Rooted in the same thing, yeah. It's just a different substance.
Exactly, exactly. OK.
Mariah asked. So, Cassie, what has changed the
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most about you since becoming a mom?
I mean, you've kind of answered that, but I mean time
management. Obviously not as my car, but.
I would say time management, butit's like I don't have time for
the bullshit that I normally putup with from myself.
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So it's like, I'm like, I don't have time for that.
What is the solution? OK, we're going to go with that.
And like really trusting my gut rather than like taking like a
day to make a effing decision onsomething.
Now I'm really clear, direct, precise because children, what
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are I was well, I would say a relationship with like a partner
is your biggest teacher, but also another biggest teacher to
present in your life as a child.1 You are keeping this thing
alive. 2 It's a culmination of yourself and your partner and a
lot of things you may dislike about yourself or qualities that
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you love show up in your child. So a lot of it is a self
reflection reflective piece, butalso like realizing like hey, I,
I know myself so much that this is not going to be a problem
being a mom. So were were you nervous during
your pregnancy about be becominga mom?
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Like did did did you have that fear or did you just kind of
feel like I was born to do this?I'm going to be OK.
Well, I was told, I was told by medical healthcare providers
because of what I did, I wouldn't have children.
So when I, when I came pregnant,I was like, OK, obviously I
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can't get pregnant. And so coming to terms with that
and hormones are no joke. So, so being pregnant was, I
would say it was pretty difficult being sick all the
time and just like the anticipation of like what's
around the corner? Am I ready to do this?
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Am I going to fuck this up? Yeah, I can't even imagine.
Right. All right.
But I know I'd be OK at it. But like, it wasn't I know some
women or girls like grow up. Their lifelong dream is to be a
mother. That was definitely not mine.
No, no. That was not you, but it no.
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Absolutely. I wouldn't trade it for really
anything, 'cause yeah, yeah. Yeah, your son's awesome.
He is. This comes from, I guess,
Georgia. Who is your best friend from
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UConn? That's a good question.
Do you think? I think it all ebbs and flows
through time shifts. Yeah, we're all.
In different. Places in different areas of
your life. But I will say that when we all
go back to the final four or tworeunions, we kind of pick up
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where we left off and it's just great to hang out with
everybody. And see everyone.
Right. And we also keep in touch with
each other through text message.We have a a group.
Amazing. Thread and and I wouldn't say I
just I have a best friend from there, but I have a lot of
friends. Did you go to Indianapolis when
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they went to the Final Four 'cause it was your hometown?
Yes. What was that like 2000?
16 years ago, yeah. Or not.
Not two years ago. Three years ago, No, it was
long. It was longer than that.
OK. But when they did go to
Indianapolis, when I was living there, definitely went to that.
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I remember driving everybody around, 'cause I I lived right
next to Lucas Oil Stadium. Oh, you were right there, yeah.
Yeah. OK.
And I mean, I'm sure it's kind of similar like myself with the
football players, when you get back with the group, it's you
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just pick up like you never stop.
Right, right, right, right. Yeah.
And that's such a great relationship to have.
I yeah, it's, you know, I was atmy friend's wedding a couple
weeks ago and just, you know, seeing guys that I haven't seen
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in four or five years. And it's just crazy how it's
like, you know, you're still in the locker room and it's never
changed. Right, right, right.
And I'm getting made fun of my for my suit jacket, but that's,
that's how it was. That's.
Yeah, that's me, Leticia. She asks what sport do you watch
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most And I would say I don't think you have time to watch
sports but. I definitely do not have time to
watch sports, but I I love watching women's basketball
obviously, especially college collegiate.
I just love the way that they play.
I will say the WNBA is growing on me because of the
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competitiveness as well, and obviously I have a lot of
friends that are playing, so it's fun to watch football.
I like to watch football. Really.
College or pro, would you say more so?
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It's a good question. I want to say I I enjoy watching
pros better than college. And you understand the game.
I I know you you said your old man was a coach, so you probably
do. But yeah, so.
You, I mean, I understand the game.
I understand what's going on. You can sit down for 3 1/2 hours
and watch a football game and get into it and enjoy it.
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Yeah. Do you have a favorite team per
SE? I mean, are you a Colts fan or?
No, I never was a Colts fan, so I grew up right outside Chicago,
so Chicago is always my team. But again, Chicago's like a
waste of time. Yeah, I apologize.
For that you'll you'll like watch the 1st. 5 minutes and
you're like OK that's enough andthen switch to something else.
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But my husband is a. Huge, huge Giants fan.
So Giants always on that, yeah. Well, he.
Grew up right outside New York City, so oh, that's where you
told me that. OK.
Oh, all right. Yeah, I'm I, I was AI was a huge
Giants fan as well. So.
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So he obviously likes to watch the Giants.
Have you have you been able to go to a game or go to the new
stadium since it's been open? We haven't.
But we definitely would love to do that.
That's awesome that he's the. Giants, yeah.
And he I mean. He is such a sports nut.
He'll watch sport like he like he's loving what's going on now
(36:26):
because it's hockey, then basketball game, then a hockey
game. They alternate days because the
right Stanley Cup and the Pacersin the NBA Finals.
Oh. No.
Oh. Maria is going to get shot
because she predicted Oklahoma City in five games.
(36:47):
Oh, sorry. She got called out.
On it the show we did yesterday and she she doubled down on it
again and said they're going to win in six games Max and I the
the comments coming in are phenomenal and I cannot wait to
to to give it to her. So this question comes from
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Lisa. She says, Cassie, you have been
through so much and overcome adversity, she said.
I get adversity makes us stronger, but if you continue
having problems problem after problem, doesn't it wear you
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down? That's those are some good.
Questions. So first of all, I wish I could
ask. Good.
Questions. I bet you can.
I bet they're there. But.
Adversity does make you strongerdue to what you're learning
during those times of adversity.So a lot of.
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Times when a challenge is presented to yourself, you.
Either try to go. Around it, which you either find
something else or you you fall back, you retreat or you kind of
work on the problem. And when you're working on the
problem, a lot of the times it has to do with you.
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Either your perception. Either internal struggle,
something along those lines. So when you're working through
that, you gain better insight toyourself what that struggle
really is and how you can get through it.
And so when you get through the adversity step, that one, you've
gained tools. But yeah, I was hard as fuck.
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And so when you come to something, another challenge,
you're you have more equipment to battle that adversary in your
life because you've been through.
Yeah, and and. And The thing is, is I hate
society and how it tells us thatlife is supposed to be great,
life is perfect, Life is all sunshine and rainbows.
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And I'm like, well, fart on thatshit.
But it's not. It's hard.
It's not. It's.
Hard. It is hard.
Life is hard. I wish somebody would tell you
that when you're young. No, they don't.
And no. And you kind of go through life
thinking that, OK, I'm doing this wrong because life is hard,
what's wrong with me? But there's really nothing wrong
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with you. It's just that life happens and
we have to figure out how to getthrough it.
God, I feel like I'm talking my therapist.
I'm better. Yeah, you, you.
You are better. Are you kidding?
No, you are you. Are Yeah.
You, you haven't called me Ted Bundy yet.
So you, you you win the award. I I can't believe that.
(39:53):
Anyway. So this comes from Madeline.
She asks what type. What types of music do you like?
It's a good question. I.
What creative and artsy? I'm sure you have a specific
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type of music that I I don't. I love all types of music so.
A lot of my. Painting like art pieces are
created to certain songs that I listen to and usually I title it
as part of the song, but a lot of it, a lot of those were like
Christian based songs. But I love listening to EDM, I
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love listening to rap. I love Little Wayne, I love
Eminem, I love I love country. I do.
I'm a Swift fan, so anything youreally name it, I listen to like
if it, if it strikes me to thinkdifferently and start processing
something differently, I love itbecause that's like a that's a
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therapeutic technique in itself.I mean, if you can just listen
to a song and either redirect yourself to think a different
way or start healing yourself ina different way, I think there's
some magic in that. Is there like?
A a coping mechanism, would you say?
Absolutely. Yeah, So.
So some music therapy that I do with patients is something that
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I learned when I was in treatment.
But I print off lyrics of songs and I play the song and I give
like 10 minutes afterwards of listening to the song for you to
kind of like verbal vomit in a journal.
And then we kind of process thatwhen you're done and kind of see
what that song meant to you, What did it provoke, what did it
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make you feel and kind of grow from there.
Because a lot of people, they don't benefit from talk therapy.
A lot of people need something different.
A lot of people need experiential therapies, which
are your art therapy or music therapy, your horse therapy,
equine therapy or writing or what's the other one?
(42:10):
Even exercise like taking a a client to the gym to learn how
to exercise. That's therapy.
You've done that You you've. You've taken client, Really.
Yeah, I mean if. Well, I know it's the.
Natural. Yeah, yeah, it's a natural
antidepressant. I mean, it makes your serotonin
suit off. And so if you can exercise to
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prevent yourself from going intodepression or needing an
antidepressant, wouldn't you rather exercise?
100% yeah wow that that so it itjust depends on.
What the the client or the patient needs.
Because everyone's different. Because if you treat everybody
the same then you're missing it.So you're saying that you could
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put a song on and then just start painting off of the
feelings and emotions and the thought process from the lyrics
or from the music of the song, and that's how you create your
artwork? Some of it, yes.
Wow, that's that's impressive. It's impressive.
I mean, it's got to be multiple songs, right?
(43:21):
It can't just be one song. Like you'd probably listen well
some sometimes. I'll listen to it on repeat
until I get until I get. Kind of the feeling and the.
Content I want on the painting and then I can kind of go off of
that. But a lot of the times it's it's
started because of a song. Right.
(43:42):
Oh, right. That makes sense.
I don't know. OK, Well, this comes from Brian.
Cassie, do you believe in onlinedating?
I want. No, that's that.
Oh, Brianna, I'm sorry. Do you believe you need glasses?
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No, Well, it's. It's small.
Do you believe in online dating?I want to meet a man but people
only date online. I'd like to meet a man the old
fashioned way by going out. Well, I think you've made a.
Declaration right there, like you want to do it this way.
(44:25):
So guess what, do it that way. Not everybody wants to date
online, but if you do, it works.So I don't think I don't.
Think one thing is an end all beall.
Like one of my best friends. He met someone online and and
they're married. They're married now and I think
it was great for her because sheneeded something different
(44:49):
besides meeting all these assholes at a bar. 99%.
Of guys are assholes, unfortunately, right Right, but
my. But go for it, I can't apologize
for. The entire male race.
But yeah, we, we're, we're pretty much assholes.
I, I apologize, but that, that, that, that does make sense.
You're just dense. I I.
(45:11):
Am I? Am I am very dense?
Not you males. Males in general are dense.
Well, I am too. I'm a.
Little dense, but to give you. Some advice pertaining to that.
So I'm a huge believer. I'm a huge believer in
manifestation. So you this was it a woman that
asked this question about datingBrianna?
(45:32):
Yes, Yeah. So, Brianna?
I'm big into manifesting, maybe it could work for you too.
But I always make a list of things that I want and I'm very,
very specific on writing down what it is.
So if you want a man that's 6 foot three or taller right down
(45:52):
on a piece of paper, 6 foot three or taller, what color of
skin would you like? What do you want them to do?
Where would you like to? Meet this person.
And really I because when you focus on certain things, things
show up. That is true.
So if you're focusing. On a lot of negative things the
negativity shows up, but if you constantly focus on exactly what
(46:17):
you want and are very very clearin the description and the
depiction of what you want, I guarantee if you hold the vision
it will happen is. That something that's comparable
to like the law of attraction. It's.
Similar, but I think it's a little bit.
More powerful than that, OK. I I read a little bit about the
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law of attraction. That's why.
That's why I. Asked Morgan wants to know.
Cassie, you're beautiful inside and out.
On the last show, you mentioned about opening your own practice
(47:02):
doing so. What areas would you like to
specialize in as far as mental health disorders?
That's a really good question. And I'm not I'm not sure yet,
because I could. Do any of it?
I could do children, I could do adults, I could do substance
(47:26):
use, I could do eating disorders, I could do
personality disorders, I could do whatever so.
I don't know if I'm going to limit.
Myself to what I'm doing becauseI think that might that.
Might put. Me in a box but at the same.
Time I. Think I I do want to get certain
(47:46):
certifications to help a lot of struggling populations in which
regular therapy is not conducive.
For example, I do want to get licensed and transference
focused psychotherapy which is Idon't know how long.
It's been. Around but it's not really well
(48:07):
known, but when you get certified in this, it's really
helping with personality disorders, specifically
narcissistic personality disorder and borderline
personality disorder really. Say that again transference what
focused. Psychotherapy.
All right, I'm. Going to find out if my.
(48:27):
Therapist does transference whatever psychotherapy if they
are an LMHC. No.
So the only professionals that can do.
It are. LCS, WS or a PhD or a medical
professional. She's an LMHC.
God damn it. OK.
That just that that makes that makes a lot more sense.
(48:51):
You also talked about possibly getting your PhD.
Is that something you're still considering in the near future?
We have. It on.
My vision board, I have it. I know it will happen.
I just. Don't it's it's like the
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manifestation I was just talkingabout.
Like the list, I got to make a list.
And I need a vision board. Well, that helps you if you see.
It every single day you could belike, that's what I'm doing,
that's what I'm going to do, butI'm trying to.
So a lot of times me, I put it out into existence of something
(49:32):
that I want to do and I keep on doing life.
And then one day part of it shows up and I'm like, all
right, I'm ready and then go. So are you saying you're are
you? Saying it's impulsivity?
No. Oh no.
So when I. See.
(49:53):
So like. My.
Life is full of people. Coming into my life at certain
times where I'm like, ha, why are you here?
And then asking questions, you're like, oh, that's why
you're here because I asked for this a year ago.
OK. So and then I connect the lines
and then that's when I seize theopportunity.
(50:15):
Got you. That's interesting and I know
you you would also talked about your faith your.
Religious. Someone that would you say
you're more religious than spiritual?
Are you a set religion? Are you non denominational?
(50:38):
What are your religious beliefs if you care to share them?
So I am all. About relationship, I'm all
about loving people where they are because.
That's that's what Jesus. Did and.
Transforming. People through love to to get.
Them to. Where they ultimately desire to
(51:00):
go as a human being. But I also believe that God
created us to be like Him, whichis a creator.
So I think we have a lot of power in creating our life and
creating our realities. And so and that's where like
(51:21):
kind of the manifestation comes into place and things.
Like that? If that makes sense.
I mean, do you? Do you go?
Do you like attend church? Do you go to mass?
Or is it more like spirituality?I mean, do you read the Bible?
Anything like that? OK, I was just.
I used to. I I read the Bible front to back
probably 10 times. Church I.
(51:43):
Would. I mean, I took a class in
college to dissect the Bible, tounderstand it from a Jewish
perspective. I think an Islamic perspective
and something else, Christian perspective.
That was it Because I wanted to understand.
I mean, because to be honest, itis a book written by man.
(52:04):
It's very. Confusing and so.
Things get lost in translation and I wanted to understand the
real meaning or the real purposeof words meaning.
I wanted to read and between thelines so I could understand why
it was there. OK.
(52:25):
And did did it help you from thedifferent perspectives and did
each like, you know, from a Jewish perspective or an Islam
perspective? Was it completely different the
way they viewed the Bible? I want to say it was learning.
(52:48):
How to view the Bible but it waslearning how interpreting in.
In that. Present time of why it was
written, how it was written, andwhat we did lose in translation
to understand why it is where itis today.
Oh, OK. Wow.
I didn't even know we had that offer to you.
Kind of, I guess I we said I. Randomly found it.
(53:13):
I missed that part. That's funny.
OK. You have been doing this for so
long. You've worked in a hospital
setting. You're OK.
This is Cindy. You're multi talented as far as
with your artwork, you model andyou're a mental health
(53:38):
therapist. You're also a mother.
What do you love best? And I, I know that's that's
there's no, there's no way to answer that.
I guess the. Thing.
That's constant through it all is I love myself, not in a
selfish or egotistical way, but like I thoroughly love me and I
(54:03):
can see. That that I.
Can that I'm healthy and that I can do all these things that I
want to do anything that I put my mind to.
There's no limit. And I think that's beautiful.
So like, if I decide, you know what I want to be, I want to
become a lawyer. I promise you I would be a
(54:23):
lawyer. I I believe that.
Too. I think we could send you to
NASA and you'd be an astronaut, right?
Right. I might.
Be really cramped but. No, but that's just the way that
you think. I I mean, and I think it's so.
Freeing and so magical to know that.
(54:47):
I'm so lucky that I. Finally, like I get it.
I get life at a young age in which people are so struggling
to find the purpose very much and I.
And I understand. The pain of trying to figure
that out, but I'm on the other side of knowing like all the
work I put into it is so fuckingworth it.
(55:07):
Yeah. Can you give?
Me a hint on the purpose, just like a tidbit.
You're going to hate me for this.
No, I, I there's. There's nothing that you can say
that would make me hate you. Unless you called me Ted Bundy.
I'm not going to call you that. But your purpose is for you to
discover in your own special way.
(55:29):
I can. All I can only.
Give you ideas of how to discover that.
I can only give you suggestions of maybe what worked for me,
maybe it will work for you. But the beauty is in the art of
discovery. And that's why And that's why I
believe all of us are artists, because we have that capacity.
(55:51):
We have the capability to create.
It's just our society has told us that's not OK.
So it's more about. You really have to find
yourself, you have to go on yourown journey.
You have to have your own path and that will kind of tell you
(56:13):
what you're doing is or where you need to go.
Of course, of course. Because.
Because no one can tell you whatyou're here for.
You're. You're you're the Spirit.
You're the soul that has chosen this human body in this form to
learn what experience, and that's the life journey of
trying to figure that out. I know that's deep.
(56:36):
Well. I like I said, I.
Have the mind of a three-year old.
You're he, I just I, I. I This is the third.
Time I've been able to talk to you and it's been a pleasure
every time. I've just seen you happier and
and just so confident and and and strong have.
(56:59):
You always been that. Way or did you say it?
Would you say that it came on like recently?
Because you just seem like just this really put together
powerful woman who has a lot of confidence, believes in herself,
and has goals and direction for my life.
(57:20):
In bits in parts of my life, I had different sections of it,
like I would have certain bits of confidence, but really self
load and like really hate myself.
And and in other periods of time, like I would fake it
because I was like, I'm going tofake it till I make it.
And I was like, yeah, that doesn't work.
Yeah. But again, it's.
(57:43):
Just and your. Sorry your question.
Was this happened recently? Well, yeah, I just.
Every time I talked with you, you just have seemed so happy.
You you seem so confident and you just seem like you have a
great path and direction that you're on and I I'm just happy
(58:05):
that to see you as happy as you are.
Well, thank you. See you.
Smile. And to see everything that
you're doing because you're, youknow, like I, I don't, I don't
know you particularly well, but I can see you're just a very
good listener. You're very intuitive and you're
(58:26):
very empathetic and sympathetic towards people and you
legitimately want to help them. And I don't think there's a lot
of people out there who do. So that I would agree with you
there. That's what.
That's what. And I appreciate.
You pointing that? Out that's.
What has really stood? Out to me in our our time
together and I think that's why the questions and comments that
(58:52):
come in your your path really resonates with people and the
way you are now resonates with people and they just they love
hearing from you and you are a. 1000 times smarter than.
I'll ever be and and you know any yes, when anytime you speak
(59:16):
like you, you speak from the heart and you speak so
intelligently that it just makessense.
And I think that's why people ask questions and people want
your feedback because you, you give great, you give great
answers and. You.
You give answers that. Make a difference.
(59:37):
Well, thanks. I think that's why they keep
coming back and I and I love that you.
Guys ask questions because I always tell patients and clients
like if you don't ask questions,you're not going to get answers.
And that's kind of what you wantout of life.
You want answers. So there's no harm in asking a
question. And I will say that my
responses, the way that you see me now, the way that I
(59:58):
articulate definitely all through learned experiences,
like I would never be able to talk this way unless.
Unless I would have done the work exactly.
And I can tell you, I've done probably well over 200 episodes
of just Husky Talk alone, and you have by far gotten the most
(01:00:25):
questions and feedback than anyone.
Well, awesome. People who have one.
Episode I mean you get you get more feedback and questions than
anyone People just appreciate the time that you've given and
people give a lot of value to what you have to say I give.
(01:00:46):
A lot of value to what? You have to say, and I know
you're still not going to tell me if I borrow any personality,
but that's OK. I need at.
Least a couple months. I know, I know.
I know, but listen, thank you somuch for taking the time to come
on again and no problem you you have a very big following.
(01:01:08):
I can tell you that you have right now just on YouTube alone.
Wow, 7200 people watching so I II haven't had an audience that
large so. You you.
(01:01:30):
You have. A following you have a gift.
I know you mentioned, you know, doing a podcast and I you
definitely should because I will.
You you you have a. Following on a podcast that I
mean, not your podcast, you havea following.
You have a following on my podcast.
(01:01:50):
So it's incredible. It's a good start, right?
But thank you. Again, I always.
I always, I always enjoy the time I get to to speak with you
and I learn a lot about myself and then I don't hate my
therapist as much. Sometimes I do, but that most of
(01:02:12):
the time I don't. I just have to mention Ned Von
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(01:03:01):
UConn national champion, mental health therapist, artist, model
mother, 45 jobs. I can't list them all.
Thank. You for being with us.
Thank you for having me. It was my.
Pleasure and I would love to do it again.
(01:03:23):
You, you, you may I, I don't know.
You got comments already, so youmay have to and that's fine.
I just remember. When life gives you lemons,
don't make lemonade. Take two oranges.
Throw them right back at life. Wow.
Great job, Cassie, Great job. Thank you.
(01:03:44):
You were phenomenal. My God, I've never had, I, I
never had this kind of viewership.
So you, you have a following, you have an audience, you have a
gift. And if, if you choose to do
this, you could easily do a podcast and you could easily,
(01:04:05):
you could easily get sponsors. I promise you that.
Yep. So yeah.
I'm, I'm planning, I'm putting my game plan together for that
right now, what that looks like.And because I want to make sure
I launch it in the right way so that I don't.
So yeah, I want to be somewhat all inclusive with Website
(01:04:26):
Podcast. Offers for therapy.
And things like that, all in thesame location.
Would you? Start your own practice, like in
the fall. Is that something you're looking
to do? If it if things work out, I'm
going. To say I'm going.
To say springtime, springtime, OK.
(01:04:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful.
Well. You're obviously welcome on here
anytime, and if you need any help with your podcast, I would
do anything possible. You're welcome to to use my
platform. It streams to Facebook,
(01:05:10):
Instagram, indeed YouTube and Twitter.
So it goes everywhere and I really appreciate that.
And I. Definitely am going to pick your
brain. I would do anything.
To help you because you your appearances have been a huge
help for me, so no problem thankyou thank you so much you're
(01:05:32):
welcome and I. Hope you have a wonderful day
and I'm going to make some clips.
Too, so you'll see clips of this.
Your clips are incredible. If you've seen the viewership on
your clips, they're huge. So I can't wait to do that.
So you take. Care.
Thank you again, no problem and I'll talk.
To you soon and if you decide. I have borderline just just text
(01:05:54):
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And thank you for having me, I always enjoy it.
Thank you for having me, Cassie.I would have you every day if I
could. You, you, you provide so much to
the show and you get more feedback than than anyone.
People really appreciate what you what you say and what you
(05:10):
bring to the table and you have definitely made a difference.
So congratulations and you know,I, we appreciate everything that
you have shared. And I think that his help people
and made people not as concernedabout asking for help.
(05:32):
And, and that is something that is an epidemic because of the
stigma behind mental health and certain issues that people just
won't ask for help and things get worse and until they just
get out of hand. So I think that your
contribution has been just incredible.
So. Yeah, I think the biggest part
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of it is people hearing that people have gone through stuff
one, but also they normalize what they're experiencing so
that they feel that they're not alone and what they're
experiencing. And I think you know, people,
people see you, people see the talent and, you know, winning a
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national championship, playing at UConn, everything that you've
gone through and seeing what youknow, Cassie's amazing.
Like if Cassie had problems and Cassie was able to work through
them, then I most certainly can work through them.
So I, I, I think that's made a difference, especially with our
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audience. One of the questions we had came
from somebody just outside of Orlando.
Her name is Alicia. She says hi, Cassie, you have
been a pleasure to listen to. I enjoy every time you talk with
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Steven. She spelled my name wrong, but
that's OK. She her question is, I know
you're from Indiana. What brought you to Florida?
So I'm a Pisces. I love water.
I've always loved water. I grew up on Lake MI.
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So you have to talk to me like I'm a three-year old.
What's a Pisces? A Pisces is an astrological
sign, and you have certain datesin which you're born.
And so yeah, so like each person, like if you have.
Pisces. Yeah, of course.
And so you'll have different characteristics pertaining to
that sign. And a lot of times it's very
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insightful to understand a little bit about who you are.
So like, I'm a Pisces, which is super creative, super empathic,
super, it's a culmination of allsigns together, but very
peaceful. Very, I think I said creative,
but also a healer. Yes, yes.
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And another thing is a fish is Pisces.
So it's a water sign. So automatically we're usually
attracted to water. And so I've always gravitated
towards the water. Again, grew up on Lake MI
Whenever I wanted to go for peace at places I would, I would
go sit at the beach and kind of gather my thoughts.
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And here's a little bit more about me.
So when I was in Indianapolis, Idated A powerboat racer and
yeah, and they came down to Sarasota is part of the rotation
for races. So I fell in love with it, the
place Sarasota. And so one day, obviously, I'm
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not with the person anymore, butI woke up one day in
Indianapolis. I was working for myself.
I was doing art and modeling. And I was like, why am I still
here in the middle of the country?
And so I, I, I signed a lease sight unseen.
I had a friend pop by the place.I'm like, please check it out, I
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need a place to live. So she did.
And then I packed up everything and.
Drove down here. Oh my God.
Do you prefer freshwater or the ocean, would you say?
Or it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Each one has this different characteristics.
But also salt water, salt is a very healing property.
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So yeah. All right.
So a Pisces, so you said that's based on your birthday.
Is that like the the month? So it's so the Pisces, it's
going to be a a day frame like aopen window.
So like Pisces is like the end of February until like the
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middle of March. OK, so you have to tell me what
I am. When's your?
Birthday, April 22nd. If you're April, so you're
probably going to be in Aries oron the cusp of Taurus.
Are they bad? No, they all have wonderful
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qualities. All have wonderful qualities.
OK, good. I'm just I'm just boxing on you.
So I'm either an Aries or a Taurus, OK.
And so. I challenge you to look it up
when you're done. OK, OK.
Yes. I don't know your signs to AT
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you. Know yours I I I get what?
You're I I know mine because I need to understand me.
So that'll help me. Yeah.
Oh, OK. Yeah, it's it's a different.
I was just curious, is it something like if you're working
with someone, is it something that you ask them like when
their birthday? Oh, you don't?
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No. No, not at all.
But I mean, well, like if I'm inthe hospital, I'm going to
confirm their date of birth because I have to do that.
Obviously at intake you're goingto take their date of birth, but
if it's not something important to them, if it doesn't manifest
to them, I'm not going to approach it.
If they're open to it, I may start talking about it and say
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hey, this may be beneficial to understand yourself a little bit
more. Yeah.
And it's, it's based on ancient astrological stars things.
So there there's a lot of peopledon't believe in it.
That's perfectly fine. And there's some people, a lot
of people that do so. OK, I will.
I will definitely look it up because I want to see how
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accurate it is. You have a see this is from
Casey, she says. Hi Cassie.
My question has to do with mental health.
I believe it gets pushed aside in our country, I've been told,
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and they tell us to suck it up. Do you see improvements being
made that will show our need formental health care improvement
or so? So one, I just want to like
validate your question and the thing that you propose, because
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it's true, a lot of places in our country, they tell us to
minimize kind of what we're experiencing and kind of the old
fashioned way of the American way is pull yourself up out of
your bootstraps and keep pushing.
But guess what, that doesn't help.
And, and I, I think there's a lot of professionals out there
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that are really pushing forward with mental health.
Like in the hospital years ago, mental health was not considered
anything. And now we have a whole mental
health team in the hospital to address patients, but also to
address providers, meaning we make more consistently flow with
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care. So there are changes, but it's
it is happening slowly, but I dobelieve that there's changes.
There are changes happening and you even you even seen it,
witnessed it in your own hospital, so it's definitely
moving in the right direction. Moving in the right, right
direction, but I will say it needs to still improve where
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it's at. What would you say would be the
biggest improvements that you would like to see happen in the
next few years? Oh wow.
In the next few years, I really think that our children
population is being left in the dark and that the mental health
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needs to kind of not infiltrate but be more present in
elementary schools, middle schools and high schools to kind
of prevent, be preventative service to when you get to
college and you fall flat on your face or you end up with
addiction. And I think a lot of the issues
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that we experience as adults stem as children.
So if we can interject and interfere in that population, I
think there could be a transformation in what people
experience in life. That makes a lot of sense
because I remember going to elementary school and high
school, and I don't think we even had a school psychologist
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or any therapy whatsoever. So yeah, that makes sense.
OK. This is from Christine.
She says Hi, Cassie. I play volleyball in Texas.
I'm in 10th grade now I'm I'm 6 foot 4 which makes my overall
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life miserable. Everyone says I should be
grateful having scholarship offers.
Apparently she's been offered scholarships.
Truth is I feel like AI feel like a disgusting giant.
Boys are scared. I tried acting like it's no big
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deal and I can't win. Girls don't like me, teammates
are jealous. I went to our formal with a few
friends and I didn't get to wearhigh heels.
I want to be normal. How did How do you manage being
tall? Wow, that's a.
So First off, I want to give youa big hug.
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I am sorry. Wow.
That was that was a lot of information and and that little
paragraph well. She she wrote more.
I didn't read it all. But yeah, but one thing, that
one thing that my that my mom really ingrained as in me was to
always be proud of my height andalmost equate it as a
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superpower, as if because no oneelse has your height and no one
else could be you. And I know it was very different
as being a tall woman because I would always wear high heels
wherever I went. I don't care if I'm a head
taller than people. I will wear the stilettos.
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I will wear the seven inch heelsbecause I know I'm a badass.
But I. But I feel your pain and I
understand what you're going through is very, very
uncomfortable because you're at an age where you want to be
accepted, you want to be liked by your peers.
And my advice is to, well, I know you asked how do I manage
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being tall? But I think that has to do a lot
with self esteem. And I think a lot of assistance
that could be provided to you asmaybe talking to a therapist and
kind of work on those things andkind of changing your
perspective on rather than focusing on the negatives, see
all the positives. Because with that paragraph I'd
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be like. Powered by it.
For sure, of course. And I kind of would tell you
like, listen, no one else is 6/4.
That is your superpower. And guess what?
You're going to go to college for free.
You can say suck it to everyone else.
She can right? Did it ever bother you to date
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someone who is shorter than you?No that OK that's what I say
cause girls always say that and I never I always wondered like
what the big deal was but. No, my thought is is if a
shorter guy is confident enough to be around me in high heels,
then they are confident in themselves so that they don't
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have low self esteem and so I don't have to worry about their
self esteem. Right.
OK, that that again. So so like my husband, he's
shorter than me. He's.
I think he's 511. Right.
But yeah, he has no issues goingout with you at all, no issues
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with you being taller than him because he's a lawyer and he's
confident and self-confidence iseverything.
I it's very important. I totally agree.
You had a question from Maria. I don't think it's Maria Conlon,
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but it might be your your son isso cute with so spelled with
like 8 OS. Yeah, that's.
So cute, yeah. How do you balance motherhood
with your other interests? She said.
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That is a really good question because when you become a mom, I
will say there's something in your brain that just clicks and
you just know what to do. Yes, there's challenges, but you
kind of had the mother instinct.And I know I had to sacrifice a
lot of things, meaning I didn't still don't create a lot of
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artwork like I used to, but I kind of transformed a level of
understanding of how I could still be creative.
And be a mom. And so I can fill myself up and
still do those things in a different way, right, Right.
All time. Is limited, so I I get that.
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And also the balance, the work life balance of being able to
take care of myself too, not neglect myself, meaning doing
self-care, make sure I'm workingout.
I go to therapy, the therapist goes to therapy and also do
things that even if it's for 10 minutes, that brings me joy.
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Yeah, that makes a big difference.
It does, it does. And I and I think a big part of
it is because my thinking a lot of times in the past is like all
or nothing thinking. That's why I think I'm so good
at things because I'm so entrenched in it.
But after having him, he really helped like, balance that
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thinking process out, which I thought was pretty amazing.
And I know before Luke was born,a lot of the things like my
addictions, the eating disorder,I always describe it like you
can be sober, but that eating disorder is still in the room
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somewhere. It's just you don't talk to it,
you don't acknowledge it. But when I had him, that whole
feeling of an eating disorder just went away.
Oh, so during your pregnancy it went away or it started?
I I wouldn't say like when I sayit went away, yes, I was sober
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from eating disorder behaviors and thoughts for years, but I
wouldn't I would be lying to saythat it didn't exist in my room
or in my space. Does that make sense?
So when he came and he was born,that whole thought was just
completely eradicated. So like it, it was never present
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anymore. So that was really a freeing
moment, very therapeutic moment actually.
Wow, wow. And I I've heard you say this a
few times, so do you consider aneating disorder an addiction?
Absolutely. Really.
OK. Absolutely, Absolutely.
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Can you talk to me like I'm a three-year old?
Can you just explain? Why so?
So imagine, let's see so a substance, let's say you drink
alcohol, you, you consume alcohol.
And usually the consumption of alcohol or substances is because
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it's a coping strategy. Your needs aren't getting met
Very true. So an eating disorder is the
same way. It's a coping strategy for your
needs not getting met, but unfortunately food is needed to
live. Exactly.
So imagine your substance being presented to yourself every
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single day saying you have to take this, but an alcoholic just
has to stop drinking. Right, right.
And you have food being presented to you every day,
right? Right.
Right. And so let's say anorexia.
Anorexia is the anxious side. Anorexia is where you're trying
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to control everything in your life, but the only thing you can
control is what you consume and what you perceive of your body.
But eating disorders are usuallyassociated with I hate myself.
And so you take out the hate on yourself rather than directed at
other people. So it's it's more associated
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with like self loathing and and just low self esteem.
Low self esteem, low self worth.It's a common.
Eating disorders are common to be paired with borderline
personality disorders. There's also multiple diagnosis
usually intertwined in there like PTSD, right?
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Right. Because a lot of people that
experience eating disorders alsoexperienced abuse trauma, right,
Right, right. Yep.
OK, and so the binge, the binge purging disorder all has to do
with anger because it's such an angry act.
So people that binge and purge usually stuff all their feelings
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down with food and it gets to a point where it gets so much and
they get so angry that they regurgitate it, which is
expressing their anger but really taking it out on
themselves. So it makes you feel better, but
it just self perpetuates the disorder and even harder to get
out of. If you don't mind me asking, and
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you don't have to answer this, Ijust my own curiosity, how long
would you say that you you had an eating disorder?
Well, they're complex because they breed.
They breed on this foundation usually of your upbringing and
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if you were given tools, healthycoping strategies.
OK, so that's that. And then I'm trying to think, I
think it started maybe my obsession with like food of like
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really trying to control becauseI wasn't getting playing time.
So I was trying to control what I could and that was how fit
could I be out in shape? Could I be?
And I got in really, really, really good shape.
You were always in great. I thought you were always in
great. Shape.
Well, the mind plays tricks withyou and it says I'm not good
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enough. It must be this.
Rather than having a conversation about it, you
internalize it because that's what I've always done in the
past is internalized things and try to figure out a solution of
my own terms. And so I got in really good
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shape. I was praised for my physique
and how I was able to accomplishthings.
And then that just kept escalating.
It just wasn't enough for me. And then it got to a point where
like, like I would just consume coffee during the day.
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Would it would would it make youlike physically I'll to see food
sometimes? No, I would just be because it
started off with anorexia. Right.
And then it gets to a point where your body's like, all
right, if I get a taste of food,I'm not going to be able to
stop. And so, and so I would start
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eating and I'm like, Oh my God, I can't physically stop.
And so I would get to. So I had an anorexia binge
purging type. So it was a combination of
anorexia and bulimia, which is not good.
Geez. Both OK.
Yeah, I could I I definitely should have been dead a couple
times, but by the grace of God, I'm still kicking.
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Saying like your weight got thatlow that it was that dire of a
situation. Yes, so, and, and the point and
The thing is that's intertwined with eating disorders is that
you're so mentally unstable thatyou you think that you are
obese, you think you are this thing that doesn't even exist.
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So when you look in a mirror, what you see is not reality.
And the only way to really see the reality is to start eating
food, having intensive therapy and really kind of reframing
your core roots and reframing kind of what you see.
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Yeah, no, I, I just, I remember them saying like when when
you're an active addiction, you see yourself completely
different than how other people see you.
Absolutely. And that plays a huge part in
it. That's why I was always told.
And that's why I say that eatingdisorders are addiction.
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Right. OK, so that makes because it's.
Rooted in the same thing, yeah. It's just a different substance.
Exactly, exactly. OK.
Mariah asked. So, Cassie, what has changed the
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most about you since becoming a mom?
I mean, you've kind of answered that, but I mean time
management. Obviously not as my car, but.
I would say time management, butit's like I don't have time for
the bullshit that I normally putup with from myself.
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So it's like, I'm like, I don't have time for that.
What is the solution? OK, we're going to go with that.
And like really trusting my gut rather than like taking like a
day to make a effing decision onsomething.
Now I'm really clear, direct, precise because children, what
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are I was well, I would say a relationship with like a partner
is your biggest teacher, but also another biggest teacher to
present in your life as a child.1 You are keeping this thing
alive. 2 It's a culmination of yourself and your partner and a
lot of things you may dislike about yourself or qualities that
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you love show up in your child. So a lot of it is a self
reflection reflective piece, butalso like realizing like hey, I,
I know myself so much that this is not going to be a problem
being a mom. So were were you nervous during
your pregnancy about be becominga mom?
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Like did did did you have that fear or did you just kind of
feel like I was born to do this?I'm going to be OK.
Well, I was told, I was told by medical healthcare providers
because of what I did, I wouldn't have children.
So when I, when I came pregnant,I was like, OK, obviously I
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can't get pregnant. And so coming to terms with that
and hormones are no joke. So, so being pregnant was, I
would say it was pretty difficult being sick all the
time and just like the anticipation of like what's
around the corner? Am I ready to do this?
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Am I going to fuck this up? Yeah, I can't even imagine.
Right. All right.
But I know I'd be OK at it. But like, it wasn't I know some
women or girls like grow up. Their lifelong dream is to be a
mother. That was definitely not mine.
No, no. That was not you, but it no.
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Absolutely. I wouldn't trade it for really
anything, 'cause yeah, yeah. Yeah, your son's awesome.
He is. This comes from, I guess,
Georgia. Who is your best friend from
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UConn? That's a good question.
Do you think? I think it all ebbs and flows
through time shifts. Yeah, we're all.
In different. Places in different areas of
your life. But I will say that when we all
go back to the final four or tworeunions, we kind of pick up
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where we left off and it's just great to hang out with
everybody. And see everyone.
Right. And we also keep in touch with
each other through text message.We have a a group.
Amazing. Thread and and I wouldn't say I
just I have a best friend from there, but I have a lot of
friends. Did you go to Indianapolis when
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they went to the Final Four 'cause it was your hometown?
Yes. What was that like 2000?
16 years ago, yeah. Or not.
Not two years ago. Three years ago, No, it was
long. It was longer than that.
OK. But when they did go to
Indianapolis, when I was living there, definitely went to that.
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I remember driving everybody around, 'cause I I lived right
next to Lucas Oil Stadium. Oh, you were right there, yeah.
Yeah. OK.
And I mean, I'm sure it's kind of similar like myself with the
football players, when you get back with the group, it's you
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just pick up like you never stop.
Right, right, right, right. Yeah.
And that's such a great relationship to have.
I yeah, it's, you know, I was atmy friend's wedding a couple
weeks ago and just, you know, seeing guys that I haven't seen
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in four or five years. And it's just crazy how it's
like, you know, you're still in the locker room and it's never
changed. Right, right, right.
And I'm getting made fun of my for my suit jacket, but that's,
that's how it was. That's.
Yeah, that's me, Leticia. She asks what sport do you watch
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most And I would say I don't think you have time to watch
sports but. I definitely do not have time to
watch sports, but I I love watching women's basketball
obviously, especially college collegiate.
I just love the way that they play.
I will say the WNBA is growing on me because of the
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competitiveness as well, and obviously I have a lot of
friends that are playing, so it's fun to watch football.
I like to watch football. Really.
College or pro, would you say more so?
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It's a good question. I want to say I I enjoy watching
pros better than college. And you understand the game.
I I know you you said your old man was a coach, so you probably
do. But yeah, so.
You, I mean, I understand the game.
I understand what's going on. You can sit down for 3 1/2 hours
and watch a football game and get into it and enjoy it.
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Yeah. Do you have a favorite team per
SE? I mean, are you a Colts fan or?
No, I never was a Colts fan, so I grew up right outside Chicago,
so Chicago is always my team. But again, Chicago's like a
waste of time. Yeah, I apologize.
For that you'll you'll like watch the 1st. 5 minutes and
you're like OK that's enough andthen switch to something else.
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But my husband is a. Huge, huge Giants fan.
So Giants always on that, yeah. Well, he.
Grew up right outside New York City, so oh, that's where you
told me that. OK.
Oh, all right. Yeah, I'm I, I was AI was a huge
Giants fan as well. So.
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So he obviously likes to watch the Giants.
Have you have you been able to go to a game or go to the new
stadium since it's been open? We haven't.
But we definitely would love to do that.
That's awesome that he's the. Giants, yeah.
And he I mean. He is such a sports nut.
He'll watch sport like he like he's loving what's going on now
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because it's hockey, then basketball game, then a hockey
game. They alternate days because the
right Stanley Cup and the Pacersin the NBA Finals.
Oh. No.
Oh. Maria is going to get shot
because she predicted Oklahoma City in five games.
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Oh, sorry. She got called out.
On it the show we did yesterday and she she doubled down on it
again and said they're going to win in six games Max and I the
the comments coming in are phenomenal and I cannot wait to
to to give it to her. So this question comes from
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Lisa. She says, Cassie, you have been
through so much and overcome adversity, she said.
I get adversity makes us stronger, but if you continue
having problems problem after problem, doesn't it wear you
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down? That's those are some good.
Questions. So first of all, I wish I could
ask. Good.
Questions. I bet you can.
I bet they're there. But.
Adversity does make you strongerdue to what you're learning
during those times of adversity.So a lot of.
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Times when a challenge is presented to yourself, you.
Either try to go. Around it, which you either find
something else or you you fall back, you retreat or you kind of
work on the problem. And when you're working on the
problem, a lot of the times it has to do with you.
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Either your perception. Either internal struggle,
something along those lines. So when you're working through
that, you gain better insight toyourself what that struggle
really is and how you can get through it.
And so when you get through the adversity step, that one, you've
gained tools. But yeah, I was hard as fuck.
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And so when you come to something, another challenge,
you're you have more equipment to battle that adversary in your
life because you've been through.
Yeah, and and. And The thing is, is I hate
society and how it tells us thatlife is supposed to be great,
life is perfect, Life is all sunshine and rainbows.
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And I'm like, well, fart on thatshit.
But it's not. It's hard.
It's not. It's.
Hard. It is hard.
Life is hard. I wish somebody would tell you
that when you're young. No, they don't.
And no. And you kind of go through life
thinking that, OK, I'm doing this wrong because life is hard,
what's wrong with me? But there's really nothing wrong
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with you. It's just that life happens and
we have to figure out how to getthrough it.
God, I feel like I'm talking my therapist.
I'm better. Yeah, you, you.
You are better. Are you kidding?
No, you are you. Are Yeah.
You, you haven't called me Ted Bundy yet.
So you, you you win the award. I I can't believe that.
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Anyway. So this comes from Madeline.
She asks what type. What types of music do you like?
It's a good question. I.
What creative and artsy? I'm sure you have a specific
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type of music that I I don't. I love all types of music so.
A lot of my. Painting like art pieces are
created to certain songs that I listen to and usually I title it
as part of the song, but a lot of it, a lot of those were like
Christian based songs. But I love listening to EDM, I
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love listening to rap. I love Little Wayne, I love
Eminem, I love I love country. I do.
I'm a Swift fan, so anything youreally name it, I listen to like
if it, if it strikes me to thinkdifferently and start processing
something differently, I love itbecause that's like a that's a
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therapeutic technique in itself.I mean, if you can just listen
to a song and either redirect yourself to think a different
way or start healing yourself ina different way, I think there's
some magic in that. Is there like?
A a coping mechanism, would you say?
Absolutely. Yeah, So.
So some music therapy that I do with patients is something that
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I learned when I was in treatment.
But I print off lyrics of songs and I play the song and I give
like 10 minutes afterwards of listening to the song for you to
kind of like verbal vomit in a journal.
And then we kind of process thatwhen you're done and kind of see
what that song meant to you, What did it provoke, what did it
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make you feel and kind of grow from there.
Because a lot of people, they don't benefit from talk therapy.
A lot of people need something different.
A lot of people need experiential therapies, which
are your art therapy or music therapy, your horse therapy,
equine therapy or writing or what's the other one?
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Even exercise like taking a a client to the gym to learn how
to exercise. That's therapy.
You've done that You you've. You've taken client, Really.
Yeah, I mean if. Well, I know it's the.
Natural. Yeah, yeah, it's a natural
antidepressant. I mean, it makes your serotonin
suit off. And so if you can exercise to
(42:32):
prevent yourself from going intodepression or needing an
antidepressant, wouldn't you rather exercise?
100% yeah wow that that so it itjust depends on.
What the the client or the patient needs.
Because everyone's different. Because if you treat everybody
the same then you're missing it.So you're saying that you could
(42:57):
put a song on and then just start painting off of the
feelings and emotions and the thought process from the lyrics
or from the music of the song, and that's how you create your
artwork? Some of it, yes.
Wow, that's that's impressive. It's impressive.
I mean, it's got to be multiple songs, right?
(43:21):
It can't just be one song. Like you'd probably listen well
some sometimes. I'll listen to it on repeat
until I get until I get. Kind of the feeling and the.
Content I want on the painting and then I can kind of go off of
that. But a lot of the times it's it's
started because of a song. Right.
(43:42):
Oh, right. That makes sense.
I don't know. OK, Well, this comes from Brian.
Cassie, do you believe in onlinedating?
I want. No, that's that.
Oh, Brianna, I'm sorry. Do you believe you need glasses?
(44:05):
No, Well, it's. It's small.
Do you believe in online dating?I want to meet a man but people
only date online. I'd like to meet a man the old
fashioned way by going out. Well, I think you've made a.
Declaration right there, like you want to do it this way.
(44:25):
So guess what, do it that way. Not everybody wants to date
online, but if you do, it works.So I don't think I don't.
Think one thing is an end all beall.
Like one of my best friends. He met someone online and and
they're married. They're married now and I think
it was great for her because sheneeded something different
(44:49):
besides meeting all these assholes at a bar. 99%.
Of guys are assholes, unfortunately, right Right, but
my. But go for it, I can't apologize
for. The entire male race.
But yeah, we, we're, we're pretty much assholes.
I, I apologize, but that, that, that, that does make sense.
You're just dense. I I.
(45:11):
Am I? Am I am very dense?
Not you males. Males in general are dense.
Well, I am too. I'm a.
Little dense, but to give you. Some advice pertaining to that.
So I'm a huge believer. I'm a huge believer in
manifestation. So you this was it a woman that
asked this question about datingBrianna?
(45:32):
Yes, Yeah. So, Brianna?
I'm big into manifesting, maybe it could work for you too.
But I always make a list of things that I want and I'm very,
very specific on writing down what it is.
So if you want a man that's 6 foot three or taller right down
(45:52):
on a piece of paper, 6 foot three or taller, what color of
skin would you like? What do you want them to do?
Where would you like to? Meet this person.
And really I because when you focus on certain things, things
show up. That is true.
So if you're focusing. On a lot of negative things the
negativity shows up, but if you constantly focus on exactly what
(46:17):
you want and are very very clearin the description and the
depiction of what you want, I guarantee if you hold the vision
it will happen is. That something that's comparable
to like the law of attraction. It's.
Similar, but I think it's a little bit.
More powerful than that, OK. I I read a little bit about the
(46:40):
law of attraction. That's why.
That's why I. Asked Morgan wants to know.
Cassie, you're beautiful inside and out.
On the last show, you mentioned about opening your own practice
(47:02):
doing so. What areas would you like to
specialize in as far as mental health disorders?
That's a really good question. And I'm not I'm not sure yet,
because I could. Do any of it?
I could do children, I could do adults, I could do substance
(47:26):
use, I could do eating disorders, I could do
personality disorders, I could do whatever so.
I don't know if I'm going to limit.
Myself to what I'm doing becauseI think that might that.
Might put. Me in a box but at the same.
Time I. Think I I do want to get certain
(47:46):
certifications to help a lot of struggling populations in which
regular therapy is not conducive.
For example, I do want to get licensed and transference
focused psychotherapy which is Idon't know how long.
It's been. Around but it's not really well
(48:07):
known, but when you get certified in this, it's really
helping with personality disorders, specifically
narcissistic personality disorder and borderline
personality disorder really. Say that again transference what
focused. Psychotherapy.
All right, I'm. Going to find out if my.
(48:27):
Therapist does transference whatever psychotherapy if they
are an LMHC. No.
So the only professionals that can do.
It are. LCS, WS or a PhD or a medical
professional. She's an LMHC.
God damn it. OK.
That just that that makes that makes a lot more sense.
(48:51):
You also talked about possibly getting your PhD.
Is that something you're still considering in the near future?
We have. It on.
My vision board, I have it. I know it will happen.
I just. Don't it's it's like the
(49:12):
manifestation I was just talkingabout.
Like the list, I got to make a list.
And I need a vision board. Well, that helps you if you see.
It every single day you could belike, that's what I'm doing,
that's what I'm going to do, butI'm trying to.
So a lot of times me, I put it out into existence of something
(49:32):
that I want to do and I keep on doing life.
And then one day part of it shows up and I'm like, all
right, I'm ready and then go. So are you saying you're are
you? Saying it's impulsivity?
No. Oh no.
So when I. See.
(49:53):
So like. My.
Life is full of people. Coming into my life at certain
times where I'm like, ha, why are you here?
And then asking questions, you're like, oh, that's why
you're here because I asked for this a year ago.
OK. So and then I connect the lines
and then that's when I seize theopportunity.
(50:15):
Got you. That's interesting and I know
you you would also talked about your faith your.
Religious. Someone that would you say
you're more religious than spiritual?
Are you a set religion? Are you non denominational?
(50:38):
What are your religious beliefs if you care to share them?
So I am all. About relationship, I'm all
about loving people where they are because.
That's that's what Jesus. Did and.
Transforming. People through love to to get.
Them to. Where they ultimately desire to
(51:00):
go as a human being. But I also believe that God
created us to be like Him, whichis a creator.
So I think we have a lot of power in creating our life and
creating our realities. And so and that's where like
(51:21):
kind of the manifestation comes into place and things.
Like that? If that makes sense.
I mean, do you? Do you go?
Do you like attend church? Do you go to mass?
Or is it more like spirituality?I mean, do you read the Bible?
Anything like that? OK, I was just.
I used to. I I read the Bible front to back
probably 10 times. Church I.
(51:43):
Would. I mean, I took a class in
college to dissect the Bible, tounderstand it from a Jewish
perspective. I think an Islamic perspective
and something else, Christian perspective.
That was it Because I wanted to understand.
I mean, because to be honest, itis a book written by man.
(52:04):
It's very. Confusing and so.
Things get lost in translation and I wanted to understand the
real meaning or the real purposeof words meaning.
I wanted to read and between thelines so I could understand why
it was there. OK.
(52:25):
And did did it help you from thedifferent perspectives and did
each like, you know, from a Jewish perspective or an Islam
perspective? Was it completely different the
way they viewed the Bible? I want to say it was learning.
(52:48):
How to view the Bible but it waslearning how interpreting in.
In that. Present time of why it was
written, how it was written, andwhat we did lose in translation
to understand why it is where itis today.
Oh, OK. Wow.
I didn't even know we had that offer to you.
Kind of, I guess I we said I. Randomly found it.
(53:13):
I missed that part. That's funny.
OK. You have been doing this for so
long. You've worked in a hospital
setting. You're OK.
This is Cindy. You're multi talented as far as
with your artwork, you model andyou're a mental health
(53:38):
therapist. You're also a mother.
What do you love best? And I, I know that's that's
there's no, there's no way to answer that.
I guess the. Thing.
That's constant through it all is I love myself, not in a
selfish or egotistical way, but like I thoroughly love me and I
(54:03):
can see. That that I.
Can that I'm healthy and that I can do all these things that I
want to do anything that I put my mind to.
There's no limit. And I think that's beautiful.
So like, if I decide, you know what I want to be, I want to
become a lawyer. I promise you I would be a
(54:23):
lawyer. I I believe that.
Too. I think we could send you to
NASA and you'd be an astronaut, right?
Right. I might.
Be really cramped but. No, but that's just the way that
you think. I I mean, and I think it's so.
Freeing and so magical to know that.
(54:47):
I'm so lucky that I. Finally, like I get it.
I get life at a young age in which people are so struggling
to find the purpose very much and I.
And I understand. The pain of trying to figure
that out, but I'm on the other side of knowing like all the
work I put into it is so fuckingworth it.
(55:07):
Yeah. Can you give?
Me a hint on the purpose, just like a tidbit.
You're going to hate me for this.
No, I, I there's. There's nothing that you can say
that would make me hate you. Unless you called me Ted Bundy.
I'm not going to call you that. But your purpose is for you to
discover in your own special way.
(55:29):
I can. All I can only.
Give you ideas of how to discover that.
I can only give you suggestions of maybe what worked for me,
maybe it will work for you. But the beauty is in the art of
discovery. And that's why And that's why I
believe all of us are artists, because we have that capacity.
(55:51):
We have the capability to create.
It's just our society has told us that's not OK.
So it's more about. You really have to find
yourself, you have to go on yourown journey.
You have to have your own path and that will kind of tell you
(56:13):
what you're doing is or where you need to go.
Of course, of course. Because.
Because no one can tell you whatyou're here for.
You're. You're you're the Spirit.
You're the soul that has chosen this human body in this form to
learn what experience, and that's the life journey of
trying to figure that out. I know that's deep.
(56:36):
Well. I like I said, I.
Have the mind of a three-year old.
You're he, I just I, I. I This is the third.
Time I've been able to talk to you and it's been a pleasure
every time. I've just seen you happier and
and just so confident and and and strong have.
(56:59):
You always been that. Way or did you say it?
Would you say that it came on like recently?
Because you just seem like just this really put together
powerful woman who has a lot of confidence, believes in herself,
and has goals and direction for my life.
(57:20):
In bits in parts of my life, I had different sections of it,
like I would have certain bits of confidence, but really self
load and like really hate myself.
And and in other periods of time, like I would fake it
because I was like, I'm going tofake it till I make it.
And I was like, yeah, that doesn't work.
Yeah. But again, it's.
(57:43):
Just and your. Sorry your question.
Was this happened recently? Well, yeah, I just.
Every time I talked with you, you just have seemed so happy.
You you seem so confident and you just seem like you have a
great path and direction that you're on and I I'm just happy
(58:05):
that to see you as happy as you are.
Well, thank you. See you.
Smile. And to see everything that
you're doing because you're, youknow, like I, I don't, I don't
know you particularly well, but I can see you're just a very
good listener. You're very intuitive and you're
(58:26):
very empathetic and sympathetic towards people and you
legitimately want to help them. And I don't think there's a lot
of people out there who do. So that I would agree with you
there. That's what.
That's what. And I appreciate.
You pointing that? Out that's.
What has really stood? Out to me in our our time
together and I think that's why the questions and comments that
(58:52):
come in your your path really resonates with people and the
way you are now resonates with people and they just they love
hearing from you and you are a. 1000 times smarter than.
I'll ever be and and you know any yes, when anytime you speak
(59:16):
like you, you speak from the heart and you speak so
intelligently that it just makessense.
And I think that's why people ask questions and people want
your feedback because you, you give great, you give great
answers and. You.
You give answers that. Make a difference.
(59:37):
Well, thanks. I think that's why they keep
coming back and I and I love that you.
Guys ask questions because I always tell patients and clients
like if you don't ask questions,you're not going to get answers.
And that's kind of what you wantout of life.
You want answers. So there's no harm in asking a
question. And I will say that my
responses, the way that you see me now, the way that I
(59:58):
articulate definitely all through learned experiences,
like I would never be able to talk this way unless.
Unless I would have done the work exactly.
And I can tell you, I've done probably well over 200 episodes
of just Husky Talk alone, and you have by far gotten the most
(01:00:25):
questions and feedback than anyone.
Well, awesome. People who have one.
Episode I mean you get you get more feedback and questions than
anyone People just appreciate the time that you've given and
people give a lot of value to what you have to say I give.
(01:00:46):
A lot of value to what? You have to say, and I know
you're still not going to tell me if I borrow any personality,
but that's OK. I need at.
Least a couple months. I know, I know.
I know, but listen, thank you somuch for taking the time to come
on again and no problem you you have a very big following.
(01:01:08):
I can tell you that you have right now just on YouTube alone.
Wow, 7200 people watching so I II haven't had an audience that
large so. You you.
(01:01:30):
You have. A following you have a gift.
I know you mentioned, you know, doing a podcast and I you
definitely should because I will.
You you you have a. Following on a podcast that I
mean, not your podcast, you havea following.
You have a following on my podcast.
(01:01:50):
So it's incredible. It's a good start, right?
But thank you. Again, I always.
I always, I always enjoy the time I get to to speak with you
and I learn a lot about myself and then I don't hate my
therapist as much. Sometimes I do, but that most of
(01:02:12):
the time I don't. I just have to mention Ned Von
Young fresh himself, Fresh rolled laundry company right
outside of Chapel Hill. They have high end laundry
service. You book online, you drop your
laundry off, it's wash, dried, folded for you at land speed
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(01:02:36):
subscription model weekly or bi weekly.
They have deals for college students.
Ned Von Young has been open since January and Fresh Fold is
doing wonderful. Go to their website it is fresh
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offer. And for Cassie Kearns, former
(01:03:01):
UConn national champion, mental health therapist, artist, model
mother, 45 jobs. I can't list them all.
Thank. You for being with us.
Thank you for having me. It was my.
Pleasure and I would love to do it again.
(01:03:23):
You, you, you may I, I don't know.
You got comments already, so youmay have to and that's fine.
I just remember. When life gives you lemons,
don't make lemonade. Take two oranges.
Throw them right back at life. Wow.
Great job, Cassie, Great job. Thank you.
(01:03:44):
You were phenomenal. My God, I've never had, I, I
never had this kind of viewership.
So you, you have a following, you have an audience, you have a
gift. And if, if you choose to do
this, you could easily do a podcast and you could easily,
(01:04:05):
you could easily get sponsors. I promise you that.
Yep. So yeah.
I'm, I'm planning, I'm putting my game plan together for that
right now, what that looks like.And because I want to make sure
I launch it in the right way so that I don't.
So yeah, I want to be somewhat all inclusive with Website
(01:04:26):
Podcast. Offers for therapy.
And things like that, all in thesame location.
Would you? Start your own practice, like in
the fall. Is that something you're looking
to do? If it if things work out, I'm
going. To say I'm going.
To say springtime, springtime, OK.
(01:04:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful.
Well. You're obviously welcome on here
anytime, and if you need any help with your podcast, I would
do anything possible. You're welcome to to use my
platform. It streams to Facebook,
(01:05:10):
Instagram, indeed YouTube and Twitter.
So it goes everywhere and I really appreciate that.
And I. Definitely am going to pick your
brain. I would do anything.
To help you because you your appearances have been a huge
help for me, so no problem thankyou thank you so much you're
(01:05:32):
welcome and I. Hope you have a wonderful day
and I'm going to make some clips.
Too, so you'll see clips of this.
Your clips are incredible. If you've seen the viewership on
your clips, they're huge. So I can't wait to do that.
So you take. Care.
Thank you again, no problem and I'll talk.
To you soon and if you decide. I have borderline just just text
(01:05:54):
me OK. Take care.
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