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fresh Ned Von Young all the way down in North Carolina, Carboro,
just outside of Chapel Hill. Thank you for being with us on
Husky Talk. Well, thanks.
It's a pleasure to be on Steve man.
Appreciate the opportunity. Sorry, there's a lot, lot to get

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through there. So this is good for me because I
don't know your story. So it's going to be a little bit
of a learning experience. So I'm kind of excited to hear
your background and everything. Where initially are did you grow
up and are are you from? Are you from Connecticut?

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No, I'm from Brooklyn. Oh, that's right.
You're from. That's right.
You're from the Brock. You're from Brooklyn.
That's right. So I'm from Brooklyn, NY and I
got to be specific because yes, in Connecticut I think it's.
Brooklyn called. Brooklyn, Connecticut.
Yes. Connecticut and I remember they
they put Brooklyn Kellinger Connecticut in the program first

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couple of times and that was theworst and then so then I would
get I would get rid ball, you know, by a bunch of teammates
like oh, I thought you said you're from Brooklyn.
You really from Brooklyn, CT andI'm.
Like they put it in the they putit in the year in the media guy.
Program and the media guy, yeah.God damn you, Kyle Muncie.
We'll call Kyle Muncie out for that.

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Kyle Muncie. Came.
I was like, hey, we'll correct that.
I'm like, come on man, like. Brooklyn, Yeah, Yeah.
No, you're, you're from the realBrooklyn or you're from you're
from New York, OK. We just said Brooklyn, right?
It's no even you only got to sayonce you say Brooklyn, everybody
using. Everyone knows and you want to

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know why? The only reason I know Brooklyn,
Connecticut is because I was with Jason Della Salva and we
were driving around looking for fishing spots and we saw
Brooklyn Pizza in Brooklyn, CT and we, we were hungry and it
was like the only place within 30 miles where you could

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probably stop to get food. So we stopped at Brooklyn Pizza
and had pizza there. So that's why I knew there was a
Brooklyn, Connecticut. But it's funny that you say
that. My other question to you
obviously has to be I were you necessarily a baseball fan?
And if you were, were you a Yankee fan?

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I'm I'm a Yankees fan. I.
Wish you are OK. Baseball fan, but I'm not right
I'm just a New York fan, right so I.
All the terms. And so New York Yankees, Giants,
Rangers. Wow, really?

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Rangers, Red Bulls, if once it once the team came to New York,
it was just like, you know, I'm New York.
The The Jets too, Or were you just strictly giants?
Strictly giants. Like I can't root for the Nets.
I mean, they're in Brooklyn. Barclays like I'm already a

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Knicks fan so I grew up a Knicksfan and there's nothing I could
do about it. It was just now you come to
Brooklyn. It's not I'm.
Yeah, it's too late. It's too.
Late. I'm already a Knicks fan.
My loyalty, My loyalty lies at the garden.
I'm sorry, there's nothing I cando.
As nice as the Barclay is, I I Igot to just stay with the

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garden. Just to just to, you know,
clear, so I'm yeah, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, NY.
I grew up in, you know, New York, expansive, but Brooklyn, I
grew up in a couple of differentparts of Brooklyn.
So a little bit about my. Oh wow.
Background, I grew up in initially in Crown Heights,

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Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Crown Heinz,Brooklyn right off of what
people call like I guess right off of you to off of Utica Ave.,
which is a big Utica in Rochester area.
And I'm from Utica, so there yougo.
That's perfect. Yeah, Yep.
So, but yeah, so I'm like grew up there initially.
Then we moved to bed style whereI spent a good portion of my

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life, early years, early elementary school years.
And Dan, Dan, Dan, I had a shortstint in Harlem for a little
bit, finished fifth grade in Harlem and then from 6th grade
till till I, you know, pretty much graduated from college, You

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know, East New York, Brooklyn iswhat I claim.
And we are, you know, high school, Thompson High School,
rich football history there. I mean, we weren't really had a
great team or anything. We had really good players, but
we just didn't have a great team.
And but my high school actually has a really very rich football

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history. I think we have the most city
championships in New York City. Thomas Jefferson High School.
Oh my God, wow, I didn't know that.
But these are all from like, I mean, they went, they would run,
they had runs like they'd won in3-4 in a row.
This is all like 50s, sixties, 70s.

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Right, right. Maybe, I don't know, over a
dozen city championships like they just.
So I mean, you moved around quite a bit at a young age.
I mean, it seemed like you were in a different area until 6th
grade, right? Well, Brook, yeah, Brooklyn.

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I mean, you're in Brooklyn, but you're in different parts of
Brooklyn. Right.
Yeah, Actually, no, to that point, yeah, I did move around.
I don't really, you know, when you're a kid, you don't think
about it that much. So believe it or not, born in
Brooklyn, probably when I was like one or two, we moved to
Florida. So I lived in Florida.
I lived in Orlando, FL, So my father's side of the family is
from Orlando, FL, Central Florida.

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So I lived in Orlando, FL and, and actually that's kind of like
the jump ahead a little bit. That's how.
So my spring breaks, I would go down to to Florida and, and then
that's when I would link up withsome of our Florida teammates.
So Tori, I would hang me and Tori hung out.
I link up with Tori, try to get up with, I reached out to

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whoever was down there. Murray Clayton was down there.
Carlos, at least we chop it up. I didn't think we ever got the
link up. I linked up with Tori.
Tori came by. I was at my sister's house, came
by my sister's house. We watched some of my whole, one
of my cousins played for Jones High, which is a high school,
Jones High School and in Florida.

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So and so, yeah, that was that was kind of like my spring
break. So that was, you know, growing
up where I grew up and, you know, growing up in in the
projects in Eastern New York, Brooklyn, not having much like
that was an opportunity to visitsome family in Florida was a
great a great reprieve. You know, when you're college,

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everybody's like, oh, I'm going here, they're going to Jamaica,
they're going Cancun. Oh, yeah, I'm on a Greyhound,
you know, 20 something hours to Orlando because at the time
that's kind of like, you know, that's what it was, you know, in
college you don't have and, you know, you just kind of make do.

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But yeah, so I went, grew up, spent up until about
kindergarten in Florida, right? So went kindergarten to Florida,
moved back to Brooklyn, I think first grade rapidly.
First grade. So first grade in Crown Heights,

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2nd through 5th in bed stop finished off 5th.
So the second-half of 5th, probably right after Christmas,
if you will, and Harlem, Jesus. And it was crazy.
The cool thing about Harlem, I mean, Harlem was just, and this
was Harlem back in the day whereit was like this is when I look

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back at as a kid, we did some crazy dangerous stuff, but it
was just fun for us. Yeah.
Right. Harlem had a whole bunch of
abandoned buildings. We used to plan these abandoned
buildings. And.
Some of the stuff like it used to be huge, like holes in the
floor and what we do for fun, we'd go run and jump over these
holes not knowing whether you know on other.
What was under there? Not even it was something, you

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know, like, you know, now like Iunderstand, like the other side
of that floor could have been, you know, wood rotted and I
could have, you know, somebody could have felt.
Absolutely. But we, you know, we're kids,
we're jumping around and. Just just doing looking for
stuff to do. Yeah, this was because this was
back in, you know, this was late80s, late 80s.

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So that was I was talking about Harlem was a lot of fun and a
lot of, you know, that growing up kind of built up a lot.
So just my journey was not, you know, I talked about like, oh,
you know, Harlem and things likethat.
But, you know, it was went through some, you know, a lot of
like just kind of tumultuous times, tough things like that.

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Wasn't, of course. Because living in Harlem,
believe it or not, it wasn't like, because this is a part of
story, you know, you got to takethe good, the bad, the ugly.
You sure do. So we, the way I ended up in
Harlem, we actually lived in a, in a, in a shelter in Harlem.
So it was. So we were in a shelter.
It's called, I want to say Harriet Tubman was named a

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shelter. And so we were there.
It was a family shelter. We because we had actually in
Brooklyn back, right. So we were in Brooklyn.
We actually got, you know, wrongfully evicted that we were
in Brooklyn. We had like a slumlord and he
wasn't fixing stuff, you know, doing things just like not doing

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things to try to get people to move.
Yeah. To to I think at that time that
was he was trying to renovate dothings over to to try to, you
know, attract, you know, get more higher paying rent.
But whatever the the case was hewhen we got wrongfully evicted
mom with the court, we actually won the 1 to get the apartment
back but she wanted to but she just like no I want to close

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this chapter. Yeah, yeah, She wanted to get
you out of there. Yeah, so close that chapter.
So ended up and in the time whenthat happened, that was just
kind of like that was a very tough time because we were, you
know, went from, you know, living department, living
department, then having a went to like a kind of like an
emergency shelter initially, which is very crazy.

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We were there for maybe like a aweek or so before we got placed.
And then we went to, we were in a family shelter in Harlem.
We were there for a little bit. We finished off the year there.
I mean, I had a great time in Harlem because as a kid, for me,
I was always a kid that I just, I would figure out how to have

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fun, right? Well, that's, that's the thing
about you. You, you're always what I from
what I remember, you've always had a great attitude, you've
always been optimistic, you've always been positive.
You always stay positive no matter what is going on, which
is very tough to do it, but it'sa great quality to have.

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Yep, that's correct. So that was that was me and I
made sure I found fun about it. That was the time where I really
started to just be kind of hone a little bit of kind of my
entrepreneurial skills and just be a work ethic.
So I started working probably like 7 or 8, like 8.

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So it's. Eight.
Oh my God. Because what is fifth grade is.
Yeah, fifth grade is. 1011 So yeah, so I probably started
working a little bit before that, but let's just say that
going at that fifth grade year, so probably that was 10, I

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started bagging groceries. So back then you could bag
groceries at the supermarket in in New York.
We had a ton of them. So it's on the supermarket.
You bag goes to the supermarket,people give you tips, you do
deliveries. That was something you really
wanted to do because you usuallyget a, you know, a big tip for
going to delivery. So I would, I would bag
groceries and that's how I would, you know, bring them,

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help bring them some, you know, be supportive, help them out,
bring money home. I can have money for myself as
well. But we didn't have a lot.
So that was me doing that. You contributed it.
Yeah. And that opened the door for
from when we moved from Harlem to East New York.
I did the same thing. Packed bags, probably packed
bags till I was about I think 1414.

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Or. 1415 and that was just kind of like what I would do kind of
on the side a little bit I thinktill about 14 until I got till
like yeah till I did a little bit of my freshman year because
freshman year is when I really actually my thing I want to say
my 7th grade year in middle school is when I when I start
playing football so you. Really have a you really had a

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strong work ethic from an early.Age, yeah.
Yeah. You didn't have a choice because
it was like, it was like you hadto.
You have to figure it out. I can sit there.
And because growing up in New York City is, you know, you
could, it could eat you alive ifyou don't know what you're
doing. Right if you don't.
And so for me, it was you wantedto avoid because we didn't have

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much and, and kids are relentless back then like you,
you know, we're we're built way different than the kids these
days. Now, kids would just, you know,
talk about whatever your clothesyou had on and things like that.
And, and where I was, people would because for whatever
reason, it was like people wouldfight you.
For. Stuff like that, like.

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Just yeah, no, yeah, no reason. And just this would pick on you.
So, and one of those things is when I was growing up, you had
to like if you were going to talk about somebody, you, you
had to be you. Had to be.
Ready be ready to go so you're not going to come talk about me
or bother somebody like and and again, it was primarily because

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for me, I wasn't a person that started, you know,
confrontation, but I will finishit absolutely something happens
to my younger sister or brother,somebody they come saying
something to me and then and I was just a kid that
unfortunately at one point I wasa very I was a very angry kid

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and and and even though I was small in stature, I was a pretty
strong kid to be. Well, you were.
You were. You were.
You were tough as hell. You were tough just now, yeah.
So I had to, you know, I had to strap in times when I didn't,
you know, whether I wanted to ornot.
And that just was the thing in my family, like I just come from
a family, people that just couldfight you guys, whether whether

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it was we had to, you just had to.
It just was one of those stuff. So then I kind of got put in a
situation you had to deal with that.
So for me, it was I started to learn, right.
I started to realize that as I got older, it was just the less
I was around people that were like about nothing then you

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know, you, the less you got intostuff.
So when I was when I was out, you know, working, I didn't have
to really deal with much other than people trying to rob you,
right? So you had to deal with that,
right. So, you know, it was certain
things you just talked. Put your money in your sock, do
this. Don't have change out, don't
walk around a lot of change. Change your change in the

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dollars because you get tips with quarters and you just give
me whatever the leftover change,right.
Nowadays you pay with a debit card.
That's not happening. But back then, yeah.
There's no Vento. Yeah, people would pay with cash
and they'd get $1.30 back. So somebody give me $0.30.
Let somebody give you everything.
So that's how it was. And after a while you got a
whole bag of change, right? And then or a bunch of change,

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but then you have to go on deliveries and you had to change
your change out. So now you got to keep, you got
to have your sixth sense this, this and, and people who from
New York City and even I would say Jersey to an extent as well.
Yeah. We got when you, you had this
extra like sense about you, You just.
You had St. smarts. You had that street smarts about

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you. Yeah, you had to be what we call
you had to be on your P's and Q's, right, so.
I like, yeah. You had to be on your P's and so
you had to be aware and notice how things were moving and how
people were moving. So you know how you had to be
aware of stuff like that. And I would and just make sure,
you know, you know, you're not getting robbed and things like
that. So I always made sure, I mean,

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just kind of be cautious and didthose things.
And again, like that built the character, the work ethic and,
and, and just helped me to just be focused until I started
again, started playing football and that gave me something that
that I'll talk about that that was missing.
That's missing in a lot of unfortunately.

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And growing up in the inner cityand, and, and, you know, being
black and growing up in the middle city is like not having a
lot of people not having follows.
So I grew up a single family home and just my mom and what
football primarily did it put strong positive men around?
Yes, yes, that was probably. I would say that was one of the

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biggest things I took from beingan athlete.
You have male role models aroundyou.
Yeah, and being football and andand and playing football.
So my am I lagging? Because I see like my screen is
frozen over here but I don't know if am I good on your end.
Yeah, you're good now, OK. So my I would call like my

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coaches, even from you football.I still keep in contact with
them to this day. They were like my uncles and
even my my first coach ended up being my high school coach too,
ended up being my high school coach.
And and again, like, you know, just growing up.

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So I'm playing football. My first year ever playing
football, I was, I was, I was a standout, one of the standout
players on the team. I was a captain.
I was the. First year and you were in 7th
grade, right? Yeah, I was 13.
That's amazing. Thirteen 7th going into eighth
grade, I think was the the the year going into eighth grade if

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I'm not mistaken. I think end up being it was 13.
Yeah, 1314, that would have beengoing in 8th grade.
Yeah, I. Believe.
I believe so. That's crazy.
You started that late. Yeah.
So no, actually, you know what it was, it was 7th grade.
So first year it was 7th grade. It was, it was I believe it was
7th grade, might even because itwas 12.

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I remember we were because, oh, that's why.
Yeah, it was, it was going into 7th grade.
The reason why I came here now, because back in New York back in
the day, I don't know if they still do it.
Elementary school ended at 6th grade.
Yeah. So it still does that, yes.
Only time you went to middle school for 6th grade is if you

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were like in this gifted and talented program.
Yeah, it was. It was rare, yes.
So that was rare. So that's why I'm like, OK, I
was the, it was the summer of that end of the summer of the
6th grade year going into 7th. That's when I first started
playing football. Right.
Playing and then first year was a captain, you know, started.
I started as a fullback. I was a small, one of the

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smallest guys on the team. I was a fullback.
We and you wrong though. Man, you, you were fast.
Well, I was quick. I wasn't I wasn't I was I wasn't
fast in terms of like straight, I was quick.
So whatever my top speed was, I I could hit it right there and
then and I was very shifted. But and The thing is, and this

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would build the character for metoo, and for football, because
even when I I didn't, I didn't carry the ball a lot starting.
I just but I proud of myself in blocking.
Wow. For two years.
And then my my coaches were tested for two years, my first
and second year. I never missed a block.

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Never. Wow.
Never missed a block. I always made a block.
So my, my guys, you know, my what about the the running back
was behind me. I David every time and the coach
was and it was one of those things where I wasn't like the
fastest kid. And I mean, one time they when
we went to the second year, at one point they switched me out

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from fullback because it was another kid that was, he was
faster and he played receiver the year before they went to
kind of switch things up, but hecouldn't block as well as me.
So, right. And they, and they would see it
like soon as I would come in thegame, block me.
Big, big difference. Yeah, big difference.
Boom, boom, boom. So for me, I was just a very, I

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was a student of the game. I studied the game.
I really respected and appreciated football and studied
even as a young kid. And and it was funny because
when I used to be in the sidelines, one of my coaches
used to call me CBS like because, you know, footballers
come on CBS. Yeah, always comment.
And I was like, coach, if we didthis and that I'm I'm 13 and and

(31:29):
the coaches would look at me andI'm like, you called me CBS.
But he was like, that made sense.
Like you like, you understand, like, yeah, if we did do that,
like if we did that, like they're shifting this way,
they're doing this. And I would notice like as a
young. You would make adjustments or
play calls. Suggestions.
Wow. But they wouldn't listen.
So they, they, they would say after the fact, like, you know
what, that did make sense. And then I feel like my second

(31:53):
year, I didn't say as much. I kind of fell back, but I I
didn't say as much, but I just was just focused on getting
better and playing and but I wasalways, always the underdog,
always undersized, yes, not as fast, but I was quick.
I have very, I have very quick feet.

(32:13):
I could read and react. Pretty well.
You had a great work ethic. I mean every everyone that you
know. Whenever I I read your spot and
mention your name, everyone goesnuts when they hear your name
and they talk. They talk about how tough you
were and you know, how physical you were and.

(32:35):
How you would? Fight until the end like you
would give it 110% like any any anytime your name's brought up,
guys go crazy about you. Yeah, man, I appreciate that,
man. I just, I appreciate that.
Because it wasn't like I wasn't,you know, you're going to
college Like, you know, I wasn'ta star.
Wasn't anybody that like I didn't really play much, but it

(32:58):
was one of a of, of perseverance, just hard work and
you know, because like because Iwas a walk on.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. And and I, I was a walk on, walk
on. I wasn't a recruited walk.
On no no, I walked in the doors like.
And what happened is my high school coach, actually, he

(33:23):
reached. He knew.
I think he knew Coach at the time it was Coach.
Hargraves. He knew Vernon, he knew Vernon.
OK. So he like knew, I don't know if
it's from a clinic or something,but he was like, hey, I got a
player that just got on campus because my story to Yukon is an
interesting story too. I get into that.

(33:44):
I got in, I got, I got to acceptthe label.
When I went to campus, I basically, I went there, walked
on, I went through at the time, the way they did it, we had to
go through. It was like 3 days of like hell.
Yeah, because it was. It was after training camp,
right? For the true walk, Yeah.
Came in after, after, after, after after camp.

(34:09):
And I was when I got to campus, I think I came on it might have
been either right before the first game, I think was right
before the first game. And what was crazy is Oh no, no,
it was right before. Was it the first game or was it
a scrimmage or something? Because I know you came in the

(34:30):
year after me, right? When you came in, I was.
I was 99. Yeah, Yeah.
So I was, you were 97, right, 798.
So you came. Yeah.
But so I came in and it was the crazy thing about so we had the
three days of hell, the day one.And the cool thing about me is
so a little is that I was always, I always was ready,

(34:53):
right? I, I, I, I played a bunch of, I
played a bunch of sports like soin high school, I was, I had, I
think 11 varsity letters in highschool.
So I. Did you play lacrosse?
We didn't have lacrosse. OK, I don't know why.
We had AI think that probably would have been the sport that I

(35:13):
think I probably would have excelled at.
Yeah. But I I played football swim, so
swimming actually was my best. Swimming was what I was thinking
of. That's right.
OK. And I actually, I, I, I made the
swim team at UConn and I was on the swim team at UConn for a
little. Bit holy crap, I didn't know
that. Yep.

(35:34):
So I so I played football. I swam indoor outdoor track
volleyball. So my freshman year volleyball I
started played volleyball, just learned it in high school,
played volleyball, started a fewgames my freshman year because
that year I was did my last yearof youth football and and we

(35:58):
didn't have my high school. This is how we didn't have a JV
at the time. No, because there weren't enough
kids, probably. Yeah, we so we didn't have
either the coaches. We had a facility.
It just wasn't enough kids. They didn't have coaches like it
didn't pub for it. We had plenty of kids in my
school, but it was no, it was noJV.

(36:19):
So my, my youth team, my, my PopWarner team played at the same
at my high school. So the same high school.
I, I played at the same field from, from 12/13 all the way
through high school. So I, that's the only field I
knew. We used to go there and work out

(36:40):
like that was my field. And so I I did all of that and
played, played those sports and swam three time MVP swimmer, you
know. What What was your event for
swimming? My event was breaststroke and
freestyle was my my best events.Breaststroke and freestyle,

(37:01):
that's another thing too. I started swimming late and I
pretty much I just took a mentality in the swimming like
was football because I didn't have as much.
I didn't have the technical coaching that.
Yeah. And I only started swimming in
my sophomore year in high school.
That's it. That's what I can't believe is
how late you started football, how late you started swimming.

(37:23):
I mean that that's incredible tostart that late and and still be
able to have some success at it.That's it's it's very rare.
Yeah, that was that was so that was for me, man.
It was one of those things where, you know, I I just, I
just try to work and do whateverI could and and believe it or

(37:43):
not, you know, this might, it might not come as a surprise,
but this was just my mentality. I knew and I said I kind of
hinted at it earlier. The more I was out busy, I
didn't have to be, I didn't haveto be the projects like I didn't
have to be there like, right. So I had, I had some kind of
practice. So I was like, I am not.

(38:05):
I came home, ate, slept, did my chores.
That was it. Yeah, by the time I got there,
so, and I think I got to a pointto my mom, she accepted and
respected that as long as I did what I had to do.
I did my chores, I did my did what I needed to do.
And she knew I wasn't in trouble, right?
She knew I was. No, you were a good kid.
Yeah, he's like, all right. He's at a football game.

(38:28):
He's at a swim meet. Yeah, he's at a volleyball game.
He's at a basketball game. Like I'm, I'm always, I was
always somewhere. And so I again, like I said, I
was three time MVP swimmers. So that means my first year ever
swimming. It's amazing MVP sophomore and
senior year and and that was my best sport And I just.

(38:50):
But The thing is, my decision going into college was like,
look, I strategically and I understand this and I don't know
where I get it from. I could say it's number, but had
to be God, because at 1415 started thinking about college
already right? I just knew, and it might have
been just I I'm not I'm. Not and you, your mother didn't

(39:12):
like force it on you or bring itup all the time, like, oh, you
got to go to college and all that.
Wow. She did not.
My mother always was very. I would say I get my optimism
from my mom. My mom is very optimistic about
things, even to a fault. Something she's optimistic

(39:34):
about. You just feel like all right,
but so she's very optimistic. So she would always just be very
encouraging about stuff and and she just knew that I think she
knew out of all her, you know, and I have, I have a younger
brother, my mom. I have a younger brother,
younger sister and an older sister.

(39:56):
So it's four of us that, you know, grew up together.
And my mom, I think she just knew I was going to be all
right. She knew you were going to be
fine. She had faith in you.
Yeah. And she.
Yeah, so and then me being the oldest male is kind of one of
those things. A lot of more responsibility was
put on me as. You're the man of the house.

(40:17):
Yeah, 100%. That's crazy hearing you're the
man in the house that like I know, I know, right, 11 you're
like OK and you but that's all you know.
So you try to be it, right, eventhough you didn't have I didn't
have any models of it other thanlike uncles, relatives or
whatnot until I got to my coaches.

(40:38):
Then I got to my coaches. I saw my my first coach, Jeff
Mitchell, who's still like mentor took me to this day,
somebody who I, you know, love dearly.
That's when I saw what family looked at like he was married.
He you know what I'm saying, wife, you know what I'm saying?
Like kids like doing this so that.

(40:59):
Resonated with you. So it was something like that
was the goal because you didn't that's what you saw.
Most people, a lot of people would be like looking at an
entertainer. For me, I'm like, no, this is
what manhood is. I can touch this.
This person, he was a teacher. He he taught at my elementary
school. He was a teacher.
He was respected. He, you know, was a form

(41:21):
athlete. He played quarterback in college
and he did. So it's one of those things
that's just like, OK. And he was younger.
He was in his 20s when he first met.
So there wasn't a big thing. Yeah, yeah.
Like he just, and he just he, he's, and I respect him too
because my first awards dinner, I didn't have shoes.
He brought me, he brought me my,he brought me a pair of shoes.

(41:43):
Make sure I have shoes to go to our first football awards
dinner. So it was one of those things
where it was a lot where, you know, I, I drew from them.
So my coaches to the point to where that was my you know, you
got to write that letter for college to, you know, to hear
that letter my. Letter You got to write that

(42:05):
essay? Yep.
Yeah, that my essay was about mycoaches and how they.
They made a difference in your life.
Yep. So that, that was my letter and
and that was my, you know, that that letter was the beginning
kind of journey to go to, you know, getting into UConn, which
is, which is interesting becauseI kind of got in, I got in that

(42:25):
kind of got, I got in after the deadline.
So I was applying it again. OK.
Did you get wait listed? Yes, so I did.
What happened was this, I did get wait listed, but I applied
after the deadline. So I didn't know the way it went

(42:46):
say like say the the deadline was March 1st, right?
Right, right. I can't remember.
I I applied after the deadline. I applied to a few schools.
I oh, oh, OK. You applied after the deadline.
I got you. This wasn't like this wasn't.
I wasn't recruited for football or anything like that.
I just went and applied in my school, you know, New York City
football back then. It wasn't like it's better now

(43:09):
where everything is kind of Max Preps was start, you know,
started after Max Preps actuallystarted when we left, right?
Yeah, We didn't have none of that.
It was just you had to have yourtape.
That was it had to. Have connections.
Would it get people to come out to your school?
Maybe. Or you had to go to a camp or
yeah, it was tough. And that was it.

(43:30):
So I got accepted. I, I, I, I applied to a bunch of
SUNY school, applied to, you know, Brooklyn College, SUNY.
What did I apply to? I think I oh, Cortland, that's
my oh, you played to Cortland, You came up to.
Portland, you must have hated it.

(43:51):
No actually had a good time in Cortland.
Cortland's a great time, No? Well, don't get me wrong,
Cortland's a blast, but it's in the middle.
Of Portland, I saw it, but I didsee I was like, oh, it's like 2
stop, 2 traffic lights. There's two traffic lights.
The dorm overlooked the cemetery.
It was it was interesting, but they strategically planned it.

(44:13):
We came up there. It was like a black student
union event and it was a party and everything.
They set it up. And then, you know, you're away
from home, you're staying in thedorm, and that's a long.
Ways away too, and. It was just like, oh, this was,
it was getting away and it was cool.
We did stuff. I mean, if I would have went

(44:34):
there probably any other time, I'd be like, oh, this is it's
no. It's I, I If you want a funny
story, I brought UI out to Cortland.
We visited a friend of mine fromhigh school.
We went out for a weekend and we, we just had a blast.
We, we went out, we went to all the bars.
We got bombed. We had so much fun out there,

(44:57):
completely unexpected. And my friend who I went to
visit is now the Superintendent at our local high school.
He just got hired and he, he, let's just say he, he wasn't a
model citizen when he was in college.
Oh wait, which? Which high school you talking?

(45:17):
Because I got a brother up there.
We. Got oh wow, New Hartford, New
Hartford High School. Yeah, but Utica has a new
Superintendent as well. OK, yeah, I got to chat with you
about offline. My brother's looking for some
stuff with the opportunities. Oh, is he really?
Yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, that's great.

(45:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. But yeah, man, went went to
court and that was my only visittrying to go to schools.
I really wanted to go to Delaware.
So Delaware was like. Oh, they were good, Yeah.
And I look at it now, so I was, but you know, you only know what
you know. So we didn't have my, we didn't

(45:59):
have, we didn't have access to the Internet.
Back then, no, no, Yeah. I mean, it's not like you could
watch Delaware play. So my my high school we had like
ACD ROM. Yes, yes, the old school.
It was like, it was like college.
It was like say it was a collegepreview type CD-ROM that gave
you, it was a list of all the different of a bunch of

(46:21):
different kind of not all of them, but a bunch, yes, that
were all part of the application.
And then they had some that had videos or things like that.
Delaware had a video. University of Denver, I just
kind of remember they had, they showed you, they showed you
snowboarding. So I was, I thought about it.
I definitely thought about the University of Denver because of

(46:41):
just because it was a video. But you know, that was the power
of it. We didn't have any.
There's no video of nothing. Yeah, you couldn't see anything.
So I wanted to go to Delaware and I wanted to go to Delaware.
I applied to Delaware. I was, I applied to Delaware.
I applied to UConn, I applied toMaris and a bunch of other CUNY
Sweeny schools. I got Maris and hot girls.

(47:04):
I used to like the girls at Maris.
So I I never visited up there, but I thought about going to
Maris and no. Poughkeepsie is a dump.
It's a good thing you didn't visit other.
The other different girls is thedump.
That's interesting, man. But yeah, man, I visited.
I mean, I didn't visit there, but I applied and I went.

(47:25):
I wanted to go to Delaware, but I think again, it's funny how
things happen. I applied to go to Delaware
that. Second, give me one second, give

(48:22):
me one second. So I had wanted to ask you
anyway because you said that youhad grown up in you were you
would get into fights and you were at times an angry kid.

(48:46):
What I feel today is somewhat missing or lacking from the
youth and the kids that we have today is they run their mouths
and they don't get checked. They, I mean, not that fighting
is the answer and the way to go and how you should handle

(49:09):
everything. But I feel that because there's
no opportunity, you know, kids don't have to worry about
getting punched in the mouth that they'll just say whatever
the hell they want. And it causes more trouble.
And it drives me nuts because like, and you know, and and when

(49:34):
you and I played, you ran your mouth, someone would check you,
you you weren't going to run your mouth for long, right?
Yeah, yeah. That, that that's what I feel
is, is like missing from today. So I was just curious because,
you know, you're you're older and wiser.

(49:56):
I mean, do you think that obviously you can't fight
everyone, you can't go around fighting people, But do you feel
that the kids today kind of are,you know, bolder and you know,
with the bullying and social media and it it just never ends.

(50:17):
And if they were able to settle it with a fight or, you know,
some sort of physical altercation, I think there would
be less problems, issues bullying.
Do you do you think that or do you think there's another way to
do it or because it just drives me nuts when I hear about it.

(50:41):
I mean, I think and again, so I think that that that it's, you
know, that is it's very interesting, right?
So it's, and I, I think it's, you know, we could put a blanket
statement over it, but I think every, each individual is
different. But I.
Exactly. You're right, this.
Generation is definitely at a place, you know my own kids now

(51:04):
where they're not as like you said, they don't then they're
they're not getting checked likehow you know people got checked
when we were younger. But I'm sure your kids, your
kids are respectful and I'm sure, yeah, they're not running
their mouths. They're not causing problems.
No, only thing I would say what what happens to a lot of young

(51:26):
kids now is that they do what they they just what we we used
to call, you know they might call playing the dozens or or
they call roasting or what not Yeah, yeah, and these kids, but
it's. In good fun.
Yeah, it's it's in good fun for some, but it's just not.
They can't take it like these kids.
Yeah, we when I grew up, man, itwas just that was because.

(51:50):
It's common people would. Say.
Yes. But you knew like there was the
thing like sometimes those, those, those they ended up in,
you know, in fights, but not butto answer your question, I would
say, I think it is there is a lack of, of, of, of, you know,

(52:11):
things getting handled, especially amongst young boys,
right? We're, I think boys are
different, yes. And boys are different.
And I, and I've had conversations about this, like
with my wife, I said, look, I said with, with, with our son, I
said it's, he's, I said, this iswhat's going to happen.
And I told her this before I said I said he's going to get

(52:31):
into fights. Yeah.
And I said, and I'm OK with it. Yeah.
I'm OK with him getting into fights.
I said what I'm not OK with is him bullying.
Like I'm, I'm OK with him defending himself.
I'm OK with him not letting himself get pushed around.
Because unfortunately, I said this is how I meant we, we
interact sometimes. It's it's you.

(52:52):
You hold on, hold on. Come.
Back you there? Yeah, I got you.
Sorry. OK.

(53:13):
So I'm like, this will happen and as long as, you know, he
understands, like, you know, this is how you, you know, you
defend yourself. But you, you know, we, you're
not like I mentioned. Yeah, we don't, we don't.
And I tell, I tell all my kids said we don't start fights, we
finish. Exactly.
Look, it's great if you get. To that point, we have to do it.

(53:35):
You make sure that you leave theimpression that I'm not someone
that you're just going to. You know you're going, you're
going to walk over with them back.
Like you, you're not going to push me around.
Yeah, you might, you know, you might get the best of me, but
you're not, I'm not going to be the person.
You're just like, yeah, I'm going to let me go, let me go
mess with, with, you know, this kid, right.

(53:59):
So that's the kind of thing. But I think, yeah, there's a,
there's, it's something that, you know, I, I think is, yeah,
fighting is discouraged and. Yeah.
And I think that I think, I think at the very least, these
kids need outlets to express their aggression.

(54:19):
Absolutely, Absolutely. You know, whether you are
training and you know some kind of some kind of martial arts,
whether that be boxing all the way to, you know, jujitsu or any
kind of any mix or something in between.
When you got somewhere you can unleash that aggression or
whether that's a sport, but you need to be able to do it right.

(54:43):
You need to be able to do it. And at the same time, to your
point, I think it is OK for for people to get checked.
I think it's OK. Yeah, I think they need to.
Yeah, I think it's it's definitely OK because I think,
and again, a lot of people get slacked as you hear this in the

(55:04):
media even you know, that I forget the actor I get, I forget
his name, but he, you know, he played Captain America, recent
Captain America. Oh yes, yeah, I know you're
talking about. Yeah, so and he's the the
Falcon, his name is, is, is is escaping my mind right now.

(55:25):
But he talked about how he raises his sons and to be
masculine, to be men. And, you know, some people gave
him a lot of slack about it. And I was like, what is the
problem? He's like, because like you're
like, no, he's like my men are going to be men.
They're going, they're going to be respectful.

(55:46):
They're going to have chivalry, but they're going to be men like
they're going to, you know, if they got to, they got to get
down, they got to get down. He said like if I'm not home and
somebody, he said no, no one's trying to have a conversation.
If somebody breaking the house or something happened, he said,
They need to be able to know howto handle things if it happens.

(56:07):
Exactly. So, and I think a part of that
is, is that you being able to check someone is the for one, to
let people know that this is inappropriate, right?
For one, at the very least, right.
That's the that's the simplest way to put it.
But you know, I'm saying like wein a generation where you know

(56:27):
that you know they what they call it the FA FAFO, right?
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so you get like, like somepeople need to find out, man.
They just. Yeah, I didn't mean to throw you
off. I just get so frustrated by it
because I see, you know, my friends kids who get bullied.

(56:52):
And it's not like, you know, when we were growing up, you
know, you'd get made fun of his school or on the bus or
whatever. You get home and it's over.
Now it's, you know, it's, it's all over social media and it
never stops. And it ends up with kids dealing
with mental health issues and, and suicide and it just goes too

(57:14):
far. And that's why I'm like, if
someone just checked these kids,they would shut up.
You know they don't get checked.Yeah, I think it would change a
lot. And I think you mentioned
something I think a lot of people need to be aware of.
And I'm, I was very again, I again, I just, I got to give all
kind of glory to God because he just put stuff in me that I

(57:35):
it's, it's no other explanation for it, right.
So what I'm about to say is it has to do with kind of
everything encompassing what you're talking about.
A lot of it is goes to with kindof technology, right?
So yeah, technology is a double edged sword. 100% gift.

(57:58):
And it's a curse. 100. Percent because I'm about to
bring up something I know you could relate to when we went to
UConn, right? You, you might have been
similar, but this is just kind of how my mind worked.
I didn't have a phone. I didn't either.
Same thing. But I had hundreds of numbers in
my head. Same thing.

(58:19):
Yep. Hundreds, right?
Yep. I still know the number to DP
though. Yeah, so I don't, but you know
what I'm saying? Like those are the things.
But you know, right, there's certain numbers.
You just you you knew like for whether it be family members and
things like that. Yeah, I understood.
I understood the whole system, how the phones work at UConn and
everything like that. Like, you know, we got the 486

(58:42):
and I knew if you were in a certain dorm, your last four
digits was this and then it justwent by on one to two numbers
whether you would. Yeah, it was either 429 or 427.
I remember that was the right. So first 3 numbers.
Yeah, you on one side of the hall, it was even numbers on the
other side of the hall was odd. That's how I would know.

(59:02):
Like I could know that somebody stayed in the building and I can
figure out or get very close to your number and I would call.
I've done it times. I'll call people and I'm like,
hey, because I remembered, OK, you they were McMahon.
They are on this floor. Yeah, yeah.
You know. JY lived on this floor.
OK, his number is this this person lives here, right?
So then I go oh, and I call and they'll be like, oh, they'll be

(59:23):
like, Oh no, no, that's such andsuch.
They're actually next door. Their number is this.
So even if you would get close, but at at some point I had a
whole bunch of numbers in my head.
I bring that up to say that's unheard of now, right these.
Kids it is. They don't know.
They don't know their numbers. Yeah.
And, and the reason why I bring that up is because technology,
even though how beautiful it is,we can store thousands of

(59:45):
numbers, right? We can keep hundreds in our
head. We store thousands of numbers.
But now you don't remember any of those things and also you
have too much information. Overload.
At your fingertips. Yeah, and you get exposed to too
many things too. Fast.
I'm big on not exposing my kids to certain things.

(01:00:07):
Oh. That's so good to hear.
Right. So you know, some of the things
you mentioned, I know it's very serious.
You mentioned like, you know, kid, like teen, you suicide,
just suicide in general, right People, those things.
I just hate hearing about it because like, it doesn't stop
and, you know, the parents and the teachers are afraid to step

(01:00:28):
in enough. I mean, they'll, they'll talk to
him and talk to him, but they, they never take it to the next
level. They don't realize how serious
the situation is. And then it's too late.
And that, that that's what bothers me the most is
situations that could have been prevented had the adults use

(01:00:51):
their brains. You know that.
That's what bothers me. That's why I brought it up.
And what I was saying, and I'm, and I'm coming from a
standpoint, you know, I'm a former educator, so I taught.
Yeah, I know. Yeah.
For 15 years, I would say this, me being a former educator and
obviously in being a parent, I put very little onus on

(01:01:12):
teachers, right? Because your first, your first
teacher or teacher should be in the home.
And that's just set the tactically station for how
everything else moves. And as a parent, you can dictate
what goes on and what not goes on even in school.
So you can, you can opt out of certain things your kids learn

(01:01:35):
and what they what they are ableto learn.
And you can say, Nope, I don't want my child to learn this when
this happens. But but you got to be an
advocate and understand that. So, and I say that because I was
not big. I wasn't big on the topic.
We talking about like with people, you know, with suicide
and stuff like that. I'm not big on.
So I don't it's something that exists, but so you remember like

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very popular show or miniseries,something that came out.
I think they, I don't they stopped it, which was I think
was on Netflix 13 Reasons or something like that. 13 Reasons
why Yeah, I watched. All reasons why so I've never
watched it, don't watch it, never watched it right.
But when I was when I taught middle school a few years ago,

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it like it was all like the kidswas like talking about.
I was like, look, I was like, this is dangerous.
The suicide rate went up becauseof it, yeah.
And and see. No, no one see.
I wanted to fight people. Before it came before it with
people, I was like and and I refute, I said, look, I'm not,
I'm not allowing my kids or any kid.

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I discourage you from allowing your kids.
I said you don't understand exposure, like you just being
exposed to something then to youit's an option.
Yeah. If you don't know that that's an
option, you're not going to, youknow?
You're not going to think about it.
Think of it as a it's like, OK, well how else do I solve this
problem? And then people don't understand

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the ramifications behind it, right?
Like suicide is something that it is harder on the people that
the ripple that the ripple that creates.
That you leave behind? Yeah, 100%.
It is hard on the ripple to create, right?
Some people even say, like some,I've heard some people say that

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you know that suicide is one of the most selfish things that
someone could do because. I've heard that too, yeah.
So they've said that because you, you feel that you took a
way out, right? You don't really know, right?
Because it's it's over. You don't know what, but but
what? What what's left behind?
You left everything behind and they have to suffer, Yeah.

(01:03:47):
We're talking about friends, right?
Family, yeah. If you had someone that you know
loved you, if you, if you were aparent, you had children, right?
If you were a child and you and you don't know.
And, and again, we can focus, want to keep the focus on the
youth, right? They don't understand, just like

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a lot of things where, where people are telling these kids.
And that's also with the exposure to a lot of you know,
and I taught, I taught PE and health.
So it was a very tough subject when you start talking about
when people start want to teach like sexuality of.
Course. So for me, I always will, I will

(01:04:28):
follow my curriculum and follow things.
But I was very clear about I just that wasn't a topic that I
would again, that's another exposure thing.
That's got to be challenging. Way different again people
you're again for me, I'm, I'm a person, I'm a Christian.

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I believe in Bible principles and that's me.
And that's what governs and guides my life and how I
interact with people and how I and how I raise my family and
how I and how I am. So for me, I don't go against
God's word. You live by the Holy Spirit.
You live by God. Yeah.

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So if I don't go against God's word, you can't knock me for
standing on that business, right?
I'm standing on business on that.
So that's the business I stand on.
And at the same time, you make your decisions.
But because I stand on my business, that doesn't stop you
from standing on your business. You can stand on whatever

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business you want to stand. On It's a Free Country.
Yeah, it's a free country, so that's fine.
You do what you do cool, But I think where the problem is is
that they get people get to a point where they want more.
They want to do more than just stand on what they what, what,
what, what their business shouldbe absolutely right.

(01:05:52):
So it happens when it comes to like, you know, you know, called
the alphabet community, but it, you know, at the same time it
does happen, it happens on from a religious standpoint too,
though. So my thing is, I think some
people try to beat people over the head with certain things
that they. Believe yeah, they get involved.
Yeah, you're right. So whether you're on either
side, but I again, that's not a place where I come from.

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That's not a place where I don'tthink anyone should come from.
I think in the, in, in the, in the word tells you these things,
right? So all you, if you just, you
know, because again, like God islove, right?
So if you, if you come from a place of love and you love
everyone, right? So God tell you right to, you
know, to love your neighbor likeyou love yourself, that person

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that has that lifestyle, that's still my neighbor, right?
So I still love you. Absolutely.
Right. And again, so I'm a big
proponent of love the person, right?
And this is one of the only few times I ever use this word.
I don't. Probably the only time I ever
use this word. Love the person for me.
Hate the sin, right? That's exactly it.

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Love the person, hate the Sinner.
That means not not the Sinner. I love the Sinner.
Oh. The sin hate the sin, right?
So it's the ACT, right? Like.
Right. We all for sure, we all have
done stuff that was, you know, questionable or stupid, right?
So, so we've done some things soI can still right, I'm not above

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repoach approach, right? So boom, I can make a mistake.
I would hope that you would loveme through my folly and the
things that I messed up on. I can still love you through the
things that you've done wrong and the things that decisions
you decide to make, and that's fine.
But The thing is, that doesn't mean I have to accept it, right?
Right. I don't have to accept it.
I don't have to accept it for me.
I can accept you, for you, and for what you're doing.

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All right. Well, yeah, I got to ask you a
question. Yeah.
So this is this is a religious question.
It's a tough religious question.I had been going to a non
denominational church. I was raised Catholic, confirmed
all that stuff. I, I met a friend who was a

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doctor that I saw when I was in the hospital.
And you know, one day he asked to pray over me and he prayed
and I was a flaming asshole to him for two weeks.
But I came around and was a goodfriend and, you know, he he
said, you know, we're going to get you out of here and I when,

(01:08:29):
when you get better, I'm going to come on your podcast.
And I said, yeah, sure, whatever.
But it happened. So he came on the podcast and he
talked about his faith and just seeing the joy and how happy he
was and you know, how, how he believed so strongly and it

(01:08:51):
just, I felt something. So I, I, I asked like he didn't
push it on me or anything. Now I've had other people tell
me that this was a plan and likeI was, I was a mark the whole
time and he was trying to get meto join the church, but I never
felt that way. I asked if I could go to church
with him and I and I went and itwas, it was two years ago.

(01:09:16):
The church is called the Redeemers.
It's non denominational, it's small, it's based off of the
Protestant religion. And I, I wanted to join.
I was considering joining. I don't technically have to be
baptized, but I, I would like toand I want, I would have to go

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through an interview process with the pastor.
And you know the question, they're, they're, they're
conservative. My family isn't thrilled about
it because we have, we have a gay cousin.
One of my cousins is gay. And you know, homosexuality is a

(01:10:04):
sin. And you know, the, the whole
abortion thing bothers my motherand, you know, socially, I mean,
I, I don't know what's right or what's wrong or how I would
answer the questions. But you know, the, the pastor
preached when I was talking. I, I talked to him on Sunday and

(01:10:29):
I just, I just asked and he saidthat you can accept your cousin
for being a homosexual, but you can't approve of the lifestyle.
You can accept somebody having an abortion, but you cannot
approve of the lifestyle. So I was just just kind of

(01:10:50):
conflicted on that. If, if, if does that mean I love
them any less? Does that mean that it changes
my relationship with them? I, I don't know anyone who's had
an abortion or anything, but thething with my cousin and that
was the whole kind of hold up ofjoining the religion.
So I would just be curious to hear your feedback on something

(01:11:14):
like that. Because the, the way I explained
it to my parents was, you know, they, they were Catholics in the
60s and the Catholic Church was ultra conservative and they had
the same belief system. The Catholic Church became
liberal over time, but back in the 60s, they didn't believe in

(01:11:38):
homosexuality. They didn't believe in abortion.
It was the same thing. So why would it be frowned upon
now to, you know, go against it?So hard to say, like I don't
want you to be baptized and jointhis church and the pastor, you
know, because I've been going for two years and the pastor is

(01:11:58):
on these like you can't audit church.
You know, we, you want, we want you to join, make a decision,
join us. You know, you're welcome to
come. But we really, we, we think it's
time to make a decision and join.
So that's what I've kind of beenstruggling with to take that
next step and join. And you know if that is the

(01:12:19):
proper advice if you know accepting.
You know you. Can you can say you accept the
lifestyle but you don't approve of it?
Would you agree with that? Well, what I was saying.
And I know it's different for you with it's a different
religion, but. No, no.
So here's the thing. Yes.
So what I would say is this, so I'm not religious.

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Right. Oh oh.
OK, OK, So as a Christian, yes, a if you're a Christian, right,
we have relationship, I have a relationship with my Lord and
St. Jesus Christ with God, right?
Relationship with God. So, and I think that's a part of
where things get problematic because people, it's like if you

(01:13:06):
people kind of treat religion like if it's a part of like a
political, political party, likehow you they do, Yeah.
They take it personal, Yeah, so even.
The church I go to the last my life, the last few churches I've
been to have all been non denomination, non denominational
churches because they don't claim a denomination.
They're about a relationship. I like that non denomination.

(01:13:28):
So let let me ask. You.
Because my thing is, and again, I just while you were talking,
I'm just kind of like again, me having a relationship with God
me and I can, I, I, I talked to God anytime just.
And and that's what they told meto do.
They get, and I've never done that before.
They said, you know, you need topray and you need to talk to God

(01:13:48):
all the time, every day. And that's something I'm not
used to doing. I'm used to saying in our father
and a Hail Mary before I go to bed.
But you know, the pastor said, listen, you need to build a
relationship with God. You need to ask for guidance.
You need to pray constantly for guidance, for answers if you're

(01:14:09):
struggling and he'll give them to you if you, if you pray
enough and if you, if you listen, it'll come to you.
And that was his advice to me. The exact same with you.
Like having an active, engaging relationship with God.
Yeah, push, but you definitely want to have that relationship
with God. Let me ask you this.
So I got a couple questions withyou.

(01:14:29):
So have you ever now this non denominational church?
Yes. That you go to.
It may be a cult, but I like it.So I mean, I'm again, I'm asking
a couple questions. So it could be because that
redeemed like it was Redeemer isa is a name that kind of I went

(01:14:50):
to a Church of the Redeemer backin Maryland.
OK, OK. So that's why, you know,
Redeemer is a, is a, you know, like a lot of, you know, like.
It's got some different meanings, or you've heard of it.
It has this. It's a but you know.
Oh it OK. But it's just that, you know,
people have a name, they put names on the different churches
and whatnot. But what I want to ask you is
that now have you ever had have you ever had your have you

(01:15:16):
confessed like, is this a Christian based church?
What, what? Yes, yes, OK.
Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior?
Have you ever done that? Yes, right.
And you said with your mouth andin your.
Heart with the pastor? Yes.
Yes. Whether it's with the pastor or
not, don't have. To Oh yeah, I mean, I, I haven't
said it alone When I'm, when I met with the pastor, yeah, we

(01:15:40):
were going through some things and he asked me those questions,
yes. And I said yes, I accept Jesus
Christ as the Lord and Savior died for our sins and all that.
Yes. So I just want to just want to
be clear because you know, you got to understand where.
So that's something that that you did and you believe in your
heart, then that's where your redemption already happened,

(01:16:04):
right? So you already you, you're saved
by that, right? That's that's what saves you
qualifications you have to do toto be accepted in the Kingdom of
God. You don't have to do any
additional things. Now being baptized, great thing
ritualistic. If it's something you want to do
something you can do this. This I would.

(01:16:28):
For me, I would have some pause if someone is telling me that I
have to right? They said I don't have to.
OK, yeah, I, I want to. I, I feel like I want to do it.
And the reason being is they don't baptize anyone until
they're like 16 years old because they feel the Catholic

(01:16:49):
way or the Christian way, where they baptize children at birth.
They don't really get a choice in the matter.
They're just born into it. You normally do nowadays and now
we did we you dedicate your children like you do a baby
dedication or they call it Christian or whatever, but you
do a baby dedication yeah, baptism is something that a

(01:17:10):
choice you you make on your own as you get older.
So again, me asking you that question right.
So which is getting you. You answered that question Now
again, if you if you feel your relationship with God is
something that it's like anything else that happens over
time and but you have to it's about what you it's like

(01:17:34):
anything else. It's about what you feed
yourself, right? You got to put.
In health and you're eating like, you know, greens, veggies
and things like that, you feel way different than if you just
eaten, you know, certain things you consume you, you filling
your body up with. Yeah, right.
I think you, you understand, youcan relate to that.
So it's the same thing. We consume things, we absorb
things. Even if you know, like if you

(01:17:55):
set your hand in a, in a, in, insome water, right, some water is
going to penetrate your skin, it's going to get, it's going to
absorb it. We absorb things through our
eyes, through our senses, through our nose things we
smell, right? You smell something good, we
smell something bad, right? You're not going to sit around
something smells bad for too long, right?

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You're not just going to do that.
But at the same time, if you would have worked somewhere that
it smells kind of bad, after a while, you kind of get used to
it. Even though it's bad for you,
you get used to it. At the same thing is what we
consume and what's big is what we read, what we read and what
we take in. Like we could take things in
mentally and, and, and, and those things that we take in.

(01:18:38):
So if you want to get strengthenyour, your relationship with God
is for one, you have to you got to read his he he's given us
instructions on how to how to get closer to him, right?
It's in his worth, right? So he's telling, he's told us
what to do, how to get, how to have a better relationship with
him and how to get closer to him.

(01:19:00):
And one of the basic things is all prayer is, is a conversation
with God. That's what they told me.
It it's, it doesn't have to be this monumental thing.
It's a conversation and I, it's just, I've never been brought up
that way and I've never just pray that way where it's I'm

(01:19:21):
having a conversation with God. So that's something I've
struggled with trying to do. I try to do it more and more
throughout the day. So it's becoming natural and not
forced and it, it's becoming easier and easier to do.
But I had never done it that way.
So that was, that was really newto me as well.

(01:19:44):
But I just, when I the first time my friend brought me to
this church, 20 people came up to me and greeted me, you know,
ask me questions, welcomed me, said they were happy to have me
there, all all this stuff. You go to a.
Catholic Church and maybe an oldlady will give you a dirty look.

(01:20:08):
That's it. You just don't get the warmth
and the love that you feel like.I don't know what I I can't
explain it. And I'm sure that you you know,
but going in there, I just felt like it just felt right.
Yeah. It felt like I belong.
Yeah, and that's so that's a bigpart because so understand the

(01:20:28):
church is not it's a difference.Is it a church house?
But the church is the people, right?
The word says if you know two ormore gathered my name, then then
they I'll be with you, right? So we're having church right
now, believe it or not, right, just because we're we're
engaging and we're talking. This is what church is.
Church is the people, It's the body of Christ.
So it's people who believe and and engage in healthy

(01:20:52):
conversation about God. So that's that's in itself.
Now the church house is the building you go to, right?
You don't necessarily got to be tied to any building, even
though that place that you go toand you feel comfortable and
great. That's great.
That church community. It's something that's that's
needed and it helps because you know, no man has an island,
right? We don't want to be by

(01:21:13):
ourselves. We don't want to because you
know what happens when you by yourself, you're alone like
that, that's you're susceptible to the enemy getting a hold of
you and trying to encourage you to do these things, right?
And I think that's another one of those things that's happening
with the youth, with these youngpeople.
They're isolating themselves andthat's just why these things are
popping in their head about do this take, do this, handle this

(01:21:36):
this way or don't handle it at all.
Like end it all. Those are not good, right?
So that's why it's important to to again, for one, like, you
know, pray for the youth, pray for these people.
And you know, and again, just beaware that it's really not that
hard, right? It's very simple.

(01:21:57):
It's just and sometimes it's just something that's saying
thank you. One thing I thought I just try
to tell God thank you every day for for one, just woke me up
turn my light on this morning didn't have to right.
You know, we've experienced evenin our time of people that we've
everybody's had somebody we've known around us as past or even

(01:22:19):
people that's you know, that's that's one, you know, the blue,
the blue and white, you know that that have have gone on and
passed away. You know, people we played with.
I know, I know. And we have that we deal with,
you know, we, we have to deal with those, those type of
things. But that's the thing, like don't

(01:22:42):
allow yourself to be isolated interact.
I think if you, it sound like, you know, like that, that might
be a good community of people for you, but don't.
So that The thing is, I would want you to the the mentality
that you, that you were raised with the Catholic, like I'm a
part of this religion. No, you're part of like God's
family, right? You're God's chosen.
You, you accepted him as your Lord Savior, your your family

(01:23:04):
now, right? And it's just.
Family you have. Family all over the world now,
right? So now it's not just like, oh,
now you have a church home, which is what you need, right?
You need that foundation like things going on.
You need a community of people to hey, I'm struggling.
I need this or you be the outlet, the people you can see

(01:23:26):
and got to start piercing your heart and let you know to talk
to this person or to be supportive of this person.
Just like how exactly I spoke tosomeone to be supportive of you
two years ago to where you didn't know what's going to
happen. And that person, in spite of you
said, you know, you seem like you kind of treated them a
little. I was a jerk for two weeks, Yes,

(01:23:47):
right. And then you came around and you
go, oh, OK. And it's help help you.
Yes, tremendously. Yes.
Right, so and again, and that's just God.
So that's why I just, you know, for me, I know I'm like, all
right, that's just number God, because you certain things you
just can't explain right, right,You can't explain you.
Know you just like look. I can't explain and people could

(01:24:08):
try to say it's something else and deny they can do That's
fine. I accepted to be what I accepted
to be right. And it seemed like you're doing
this, you know, you're doing thesame thing where where that is.
So I would say again, you know, I know we got kind of got along,
wouldn't it with it, with your, I think your original question
was. Well, yeah, I, I, I just

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because, you know, you had brought up religion and I'm
looking for, I guess, counsel and guidance and you seem to
know what you're talking about. So I was just curious on your
take of, you know, going througha baptism, the conservative

(01:24:49):
beliefs, if that's, I mean, it'scontroversial, but I.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't even.
I would attach this if this is something you desire to do.
I would not be focused on any approval of anybody other than
God. And I'm not OK.

(01:25:10):
So you know what I'm saying? So, so it's like, Oh well, what
about this conservative or and I, and I know you mentioned
like, well, my cousin and this look, your cousin, they, they
have their own journey. All you could do is love them.
And be supportive, right? Yeah, love them and pray for
them, but see, you can support them, right?
Again, whatever way you decide, right?

(01:25:30):
Whatever I say, whatever way Godleads you to do so.
But I think he's very clear in His word on what he's OK with
and what. He is, I agree is.
For me it's hey love you cuz love this, love that.
But just understand, like, you know, here's certain things that

(01:25:54):
with me and my relationship withGod, my faith wall, like if you
like, if you're, if you're saying, all right, I'm getting
married and I want you to come to my wedding.
Well, that, yeah, that, that right, Yeah.
I'm just, you know, I'm just being real.
Like it's like that. Would be.
That would be true. But I'm just being real with

(01:26:15):
you. I probably won't be at your web.
I love. Yeah, Yeah, nothing.
Nothing against that. But I can't.
I wouldn't be able to support that I I.
So. I wholeheartedly agree, yes.
So that that and again, I and I just thought that up as an
example. So that's kind of like, and it
sounds like it's very similar towhat your pastor was telling
you. Your pastor saying, hey, yeah.

(01:26:36):
And kind of audit. You can't audit gods.
Well, he's like, you've been coming for two years.
Yeah, I I did all the essential courses that they make you take
to join. I'm in Bible study.
I've put more time I've ever putmy life into God in church.
I feel I'm in a much better place than I've been in probably

(01:27:01):
the last three years. So I feel like the relationship
is, is working and I'm become I'm having stronger faith and I
feel every time I got like I never used to look forward to
going to church. I look forward to going to, to,

(01:27:23):
to church now. Now, I mean, like my friends,
some might, you know, my, my mother thinks it's cultish and
you know, they have the tithing and that's a whole another
thing. But it, that doesn't bother me
as much just because of the way I feel and, and I know, you

(01:27:49):
know, they, they have expectations on tithing and you
have to go through an interview with the pastor to get approval
for the baptism. And I, I think I, I, I want to
do it and I, I want to try it. And it's been very beneficial to
my life. So that is very, very helpful

(01:28:13):
advice that you have given that kind of steers me in the right
direction. Yeah, of what I need to do.
Which is good, man. I'm, I'm glad to hear that you
know, you, you have a, you know,hopefully again for me, I, I'm,
I always encourage people to be in a, a Bible based church that
they follow Bible principles. They encourage you to do so, But

(01:28:35):
at the same time it shouldn't be.
It shouldn't be like and or else, right?
Like. And it's not.
It's not like you pay tithes or else.
It's not right. Right, right, it should be like,
you know, God encouraged you to be a cheerful giver, right, He
says correct to put, you know, give your first 10th of you
know, put the storehouse things like that.

(01:28:57):
So he says that now again, at the same time, he gives you free
will to do what you're led and what you're moved to do, right.
So you as long as you're doing that, as long as it long as
you're, you know, the you know, the church is not saying, hey,
we noticed you didn't Todd last month, last two months.
Yeah, they're not. And, and it was funny because
the last sermon the pastor said that.

(01:29:20):
He said, I just want to make it clear, I've had a few questions.
When you interview to become a member of the church, you don't
have to bring your tax returns. We don't look at your tax
returns. We don't look at your income,
anything like that. He's like, you know, these
people start myths and and rumors that just aren't true.
So that's why, that's why I asked.

(01:29:43):
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It's like you can go to a laundromat, his laundromat.

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They wash, dry and fold your clothes and land speed records.
They do everything for you. They have deals.
It's the perfect place and it opened January 18th and it's,
it's fantastic. It's state-of-the-art and you'll
never find anything like it. And I've always wondered, I

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mean, would you consider yourself like having, because I
know you were a teacher. Hey, did you always have like an
entrepreneurial spirit and was there something that drew you to
this? Yeah.
So yes, I've, I've always had a entrepreneurial spirit.
I think, again, that's somethingelse I I feel like I got from my
mom. Yeah.

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You know, it's a bunch of different stories I can have
around that but kind of won't. I'll be brief.
So my mom, she's probably first entrepreneur I know like my mom.
Oh wow. When we lived in Florida, my
mom, we lived in a house and my mom had opportunity to buy the

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person. Her landlord gave an opportunity
to buy like I think 3 property, the property we lived in and two
other properties altogether let her buy it.
That was, that was one opportunity.
So she started, you know, that was one opportunity that we're,
I won't get into, but we, she didn't, I believe Florida had a

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rule where you had to, you know,both spot, like husband and
wife, if you're like married, both have to sign off on it.
And unfortunately my dad didn't right.
So and so that that didn't that fell through and even but but
even before that, my parents lived in a brownstone in

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Brooklyn and this is the first time it's happening.
The landlord really work ethic and landlord was like, Hey, I
want to sell you guys this house.
You guys always pay rent on time.
You do this, do that. And my mom was like, you know,
talk to my dad about was like, hey, this is opportunity.

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Incredible opportunity, Jesus. That's.
Right. This is back in the early 80s.
So this was yeah, it was like a three family.
How Three family brownstone or something like.
That, Oh my God. So and I looked up a couple
years ago the value of that particular.
Brownstone, you did. Yeah, yes.
So pushing, I think it's pushing2 million.

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Yeah. So I was going to say.
That was the first time it happened.
So it's funny, like it's this isjust different mentality.
So my dad was like he, he was like, well, well, if we do that,
we got to fix everything. We got to like his, his
mentality wasn't what my mom was.
So my mom. Right, right, right.

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He's thinking of the upkeep and everything this.
But you know, money, valuation, you know, appreciation, all
she's and some of the stuff she didn't know.
About she was thinking 10 years ahead.
She just knew that it would havebeen a good.
She might even know. She just knew like this would be
a great opportunity for us to dothis.
Yeah. Because then, you know, we're
collecting right now. Was that what I would just focus

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on? I got to fix this and fix that.
So. Right.
And that was. It was a different mindset
completely. So we didn't get that.
So let that one know. And then and the one in Florida,
my mom, she was doing that on her own, but because she was
married at the time, it was likehe had to sign off and he didn't
show up. He didn't show up.

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He didn't show up for the closing or that.
That's yeah. Pretty much he did.
So that makes me sick, you know?Yeah.
So that was something that, you know, always left a, a really
bad taste in my mouth growing up.
But that's where the entrepreneur thing started,
because she was always she, she thought that way, right?
Yeah, she was a forward thinker.Yeah.

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So for me, and and it was tough because that, and again, I know
getting a little bit off topic, but with that, that put her
through a lot. Oh, I can't even imagine.
To the whole, like, we went to Brooklyn.
Yeah, my mom. Yeah, you're in a shelter.
You're in Harlem. Yeah.
But initially we just went, we went back to that was we moved

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from for that's what that's whatbrought us back to Brooklyn.
Oh, OK, I guess in. Florida went to back to
Brooklyn, we nervous breakdown. My mom had a nervous breakdown
had to go stay with family for abit.
That's what was was in that was in the the crown heights and
then we moved to bed star. But through that whole time that

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those things, those stories thatshe shared was things that stuck
with me, right? Because I first started out.
Resonated with you, yeah. Started out in real estate.
Real estate was where I initially started, right.
And we still, I still own real estate, still have a, you know,
a a solid real estate portfolio.Oh, great.
Yeah. So we and yeah, I own real

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estate in have owned real estateand a bunch of different.
I've owned real estate in New York City, PA, still own real
estate here in North Carolina. Have a, you know, solid
portfolio, North Carolina and Houston, TX.
Oh my God. So yeah.

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So real estate is a part of our investment portfolio.
So as an. I got to have you.
I got to have you talk to Laban Laban Marsh.
Well, you know, Laban Laban is the king of real estate in Erie,
PA. And he believes, believes in
what you're, you know, exactly what you're doing.

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And Sam Dorville down in Florida, he's, he's doing pretty
well with, with spec houses and,and real estate in his
portfolio. And I'm helping Razul with this
fundraiser. He, he's got the House of
changes. It's a fundraiser for that.

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It's like a halfway house for people who've been incarcerated,
recovering addicts, homeless people.
He wants to eventually, you know, build another one, you
know, not buy another one. So we're doing a fundraiser on
April 19th for that. So real estate is huge.
It's great that you're involved in that.
So you're, that's amazing that you're involved in so many

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facets. Yeah, man.
So starting real estate, so for me right and.
You you have your license. You have your license.
Not anymore. So I, I went to, I did the
license route, but you know, probably even like the people in
there, like Labour in, even Labour in, because layman's
layman's in that he, he's, he's an investor.
I believe he, he's an entrepreneur too, Like he owns

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stuff too, right? So.
Yes, yes. And I think.
He's got like 10 different companies.
It's hilarious. Right.
So that's and that's the thing. So for me, I have three
technically, right. So I have my I have basically a
holding company and then all my other companies fall up under my
holding company. OK.

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Right. So and that's kind of like where
kind of kind of how we how we move.
So I have my holding company which I kind of acquire
businesses. So that was pretty much the
fresh flow. It was an acquisition.
I acquired the. Yeah.
The I always wondered, did you do research before you purchase?

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OK, I figured you did. But yes, I was just curious.
So from an entrepreneurial standpoint, right, I like to
call myself, I am a income stream developer, right?
So I develop, my focus is to develop multiple, I development
residual income, yes. So you want and my goal is to

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basically either acquire a company, develop a company,
automate it, and then move on tothe next.
Company and then sell it or yeah.
So ideal automate. I try to hold on to whatever I
can. I want to.
Oh, OK. Yeah, I try to position it to a
place to where it can be sold. It's increasing in value, right?

(01:39:01):
So the goal would be like, so for instance, the goal of fresh
fall is for if we hit our numbers over the next 18 months,
if you will, then we should be able to, I should be able to
have a valuation because we'll have, I think let's call it 24
months. So the next 24 months, so we'll
be able to have two tax cycles and two tax cycles.

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I'll be able to have a good evaluation of where I where my
goals for where the company was a beast for it to be a multi
$1,000,000 company just fresh fall.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. So fresh fall in itself under
fresh fall we have. So that's just fresh fall and
fresh fall has an opportunity todo a number of different things

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and grow that way and I'll get to fresh flow.
But the other companies, so I have AI have a transportation
company where so logistics and transportation company.
So from that standpoint, we, we shifted gears from where we
actually moved freight all over the country to now we basically
consult to companies that move freight.

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So we're basically it's a consulting firm now that's
that's. Brilliant consulting is the way
to go. I know so many people have gone
that route and it's it's amazing.
So it's great that you're into that and you have the experience
to offer the knowledge and to bea good consultant.

(01:40:24):
Yeah, yeah, appreciate that. Yeah, for sure.
So that gives us the, you know, 'cause we were in it for for so
long and then we consult. And then.
So my main goal and what I've been when I'm building out for
the next few years is to take advantage of what they're
calling the civil tsunami, whichis baby boomers, right?

(01:40:44):
And I call them I, I acquire, welook to acquire probably over
the next five years, I'm lookingto acquire probably about a
dozen boomer businesses, if you will.
So these are like baby boomers that are running.
Away to. Retire and but they have these
businesses that have books of business that they are tried and

(01:41:05):
true people have used it for years, but they're they're
getting burnt out. They're older.
They they, they love their business, but they're they're,
they're ready to retire. Their kids don't want the
business and their grandkids don't want.
Anything. Yep.
And but if this business is not acquired, it'll die basically,

(01:41:27):
right. So it'll just kind of they'll
just close shop. Yeah, that'll be the end of it.
That'll be the end of it. But this, these businesses are
are like are great opportunitiesto grow very, very lucrative.
Yeah. Well, for me, I'm that's where I
am and I am focused on certain industries.

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So laundries the laundry. Laundry services.
People obviously laundry. Car washes.
People always need to get their car washed.
Yep. HVAC HVAC HVAC's huge Oh.
My God. Plumbing so those industries are
the things that I that I'm that I are companies that I that I

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will be acquiring and excuse me over the next my goal again like
they have about 12 of them over the next five years some
combination of it so you. Sound just like Laban.
Laban said the exact same thing about having issues with HVAC
companies, having issues with plumbing companies.

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So the fact that you're getting involved with those, they're,
they're the perfect businesses to generate the revenue and the
income that that you want. Yeah, yeah, man.
So, yeah. And Speaking of Layman, I got to
give a shout to Layman was, I mean, Layman was a great, great
teammate. Man Layman loves you.

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Layman every time I do your youryour spot.
He he talks about you, he loves you.
I love Laban Laban. JY loves you too.
Yeah, that's my yeah, JY was like so Laban.
Yeah, Laban same year came in same class and I mean Laban was

(01:43:17):
man, I've never seen any. And again, being on the team for
seeing different, yeah, Laban was one of one.
It was nobody I've ever seen like, yeah, Laban from a
athletes perspective. I mean, Layman came in as a
freshman and was like won like weight room warrior award as a

(01:43:39):
freshman and he would crush in aweight room.
His work ethic was just, you know, just, he just worked like
I. And he ran track, he ran indoor
track and he pole vaulted. I mean, he, he just just an
incredible athlete. Exactly.
So layman layman. So The thing is like Layman was
like Layman did what like similar things that I did, but

(01:44:03):
he just did it at a whole another level, right.
So he like he just told he was just, he was like out of this
world at everything he did. So as ADB was just sick crazy,
you know, I'm saying track sick crazy.
Yeah. And I'm pretty, I thought he
played basketball too. I think he's pretty good at
basketball, too. If I'm not he yeah, he loves

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basketball. Yeah, basketball was.
And he's got his daughter pole vault.
Oh yeah, his daughter. She runs in pole like.
So it's crazy. And, and The thing is, Layman
has always been super helpful. He's always just like always

(01:44:47):
been that teammate. Like he just kind of like it's
been that way. And he always wants to see
people succeed. Always looked out so layman, I
tell you this my first so because we were freshmen right
freshman year we had to take like it was like math one O 1.

(01:45:08):
We have to take it. I'm in the math.
We all we. I'm in there with layman, I
mean. I I didn't take math one O 1
too. Yeah, so we all like in there
with layman and and and I probably wouldn't pass that
class without layman because it did one of the downsides.
So for me it was I work, you know, hard worker, even
academically would not. But the difference was that my

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school didn't prepare me for college.
It didn't right, Right. High school did not prepare me
for, you know, U Conn top 20 academic institution.
I did not know what I was getting myself into
academically. I was always a always a scholar
athlete and actually, so I was always a scholar athlete.
And Laban helped me get through that class and always looked

(01:45:51):
out. I remember when I remember us, I
remember him looking out for me,making sure because I just, I
don't know, man. I was just kind of like at it
was just it was everything that came.
It was just like at another level.
So I had to get adjusted and he was definitely a big part of
that adjustment period of of being able to do that like so,

(01:46:11):
so many, you know, so many. And it was so great having these
teammates that just was cool andjust looked out just from, you
know, whether it be in a classroom or outside a
classroom. I always remember layman might
or may or may not remember this,but remember it was me, Layman.
I think it was Campy and it might been Fish Nikki to fish
Nikki, y'all went to go to like a supermarket in a Blizzard.

(01:46:36):
So somebody, I think it might have been Laban or somebody had
a Jeep, a Jeep Cherokee, the onethat had the the zipper.
Back oh one of those yeah one ofthose we're.
We're going to to like what's that big wire, whatever,
whatever was out there. Yeah, there was a big Why big?

(01:46:57):
Wire somewhere and the snowstormand the back roads.
Yeah, yeah. And Connecticut and Connecticut
can't handle snow, which is great.
Yeah, so we we're, we're just man, I mean that like I just, I
always remembered, you know, just so those types of things
and just how just dominant he was as an athlete, as a

(01:47:17):
freshman. And you know, obviously we know
well she's a big advocate for now with the all the different
things concussion wise and stufflike that.
Yes, yes, been a huge help, Yes.Yeah, and that's unfortunate
man, because I mean, he knows like Lehman easily could have
been easily could have made to league.
Unfortunately his, you know, injuries and things like that
and stuff he's been through. But he's just I mean, he's just

(01:47:39):
a great dude. Always, always, always looked
out, always been cool, even after I think his daughter was
doing gymnastics. One time I had AI took my
daughter to gymnastics meet MPA,not MPA one time, and I had
leaned on him for a little bit of advice one time and he, you
know, gave that he's always justbeen like.

(01:47:59):
He's so positive, he's so happy,and he's he's helped me because
I've had symptoms of CTE. Yeah, I got to meet with Doctor
Christopher Nowinski, the head of the Boston Concussion Legacy
Institute, who studied CTE. He got me with him and he's
really helped me to, to do much better because Leven, he says,

(01:48:24):
like, you know, I got to stay organized.
I got to stay busy. So that, that's what that's what
keeps me going. I live off my calendar.
I hate that I have to live off my calendar, but I live off my
calendar. So everything's planned out.
But I, I just, I don't sit still.
And as long as I'm not sitting still, as long as I'm doing

(01:48:45):
mental gymnastics, as long as I'm selling houses, closing
deals, you know, my brain is, it's just like any other muscle.
I mean, it gets exercised, it gets use and it's not going to
deteriorate. You know, I don't know how I'm
going to be in 10 years, but I'mgoing to do everything I can to

(01:49:06):
prevent myself from deteriorating.
And I don't want to get any worse.
I want to try to get better if Ican, and hopefully treatment
gets better along the way. But he, he's fighting as hard as
he can and he's doing a great job.
And you know, he'll give you theshirt off his bath.
He'll it'll help others. And I, I think you man, he, he

(01:49:28):
would love to hear. He would love to hear about
everything you're doing because he always, he always asks about
you. The people that the people that
go nuts, Carl Bond always go nuts, goes nuts about you.
Shank loves you. Yeah, man, that was my.
My my my my. Day when I loved you.

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I tell you, man, my my Big Brother squads, man, the the the
guys that were very inspirational and shaping my
experience at UConn. I got to give a shout out to my
to I call my OGS, which was Carl.

(01:50:11):
Yeah, Shank. Yeah.
Pup Shane. Shane.
Yep. Somebody, a name you might not
hear about a lot, who looked outfor me a lot, was Gooch Adams.
I've heard the name. I've never met him.
I've heard the name. Gooch was always cool.

(01:50:34):
Me Uncle Phil. I call him Uncle Phil.
We know Phil. Phil Hunt, right?
Uncle Phil, we, we call him Al Hefe now because he's going to
be the president soon. Yeah, he's working on the
president's office. He's going to be the president
any days. I hope so.
I mean he, he, he can do it. So.
No, he can. He's made such a day.

(01:50:55):
He hasn't even been there a yearand he's made such an impact.
I'm so proud of him and so happyfor him.
And you know, he's been, he's always been great to me.
He's been a big help to me and always takes my calls.
I I'm just, I just think he's anamazing guy.
He's brilliant. He's got like 10°.

(01:51:16):
So Phil's doing awesome. I'm so happy for Phil.
Yep, Phil, did you know Phil? Ernie Lowe?
Yeah, look at him. Ernie Lowe, JY, A/C.
Bobby, you must have been Bobby Alfaro.
Yeah, Bobby Alfaro. Yeah, Bobby Alfaro always dope,

(01:51:38):
Great teammate, always looked out Bobby.
But these like guys who so that,that, that 98 year like that was
that, that, that that was a change from like those guys like
because everything shifted. I know he left.
Football change, it was different.

(01:51:58):
Oh, it did. It did, yeah.
Changed, and not in a good way. Things left, right, It changed,
definitely. Things changed good, but
culturally for we had a. You had a, you had the best
culture around with that group. Culture time, it was a culture
shift and it was tough. But when those guys left, man,

(01:52:19):
it was a lot, a lot changed because those got that year.
We were lost, man. We were lost.
And we, we, we should have been,we, we, we had the talent to be
very good in 99. And we just, we, you know, coach
Edsel, he tried to be Tom Coughlin and it just didn't

(01:52:41):
work. It just didn't pay off.
And he even admitted it when I interviewed him, which was which
was good to hear. But in, you know, he would do
things different. But you know, that's what next
time I'll definitely interview you again.
We'll talk more about UConn. So we'll get to do that.
But again I. Should back the fresh fold,
right? So.
I want, yeah, I want to put overfresh fold.

(01:53:03):
Absolutely. So obviously, I love the service
you have, the online scheduling.I love the subscription model.
I love the wash dry fold, land speed record.
I love the deals you have for college students.
What else would you like to say?What else do you have to promote
that? I would.

(01:53:23):
Refresh fold, man, we, we, we offer, we offer something that's
different. We're really kind of like a
almost like a, it is primarily done for you, right?
I don't want to say somewhat of a somewhat of a high end service
if you will. It is high end service 100%.
For people who just like, and mygoal is to really condition

(01:53:46):
people to be more like, everybody's not going to be our
client, right? And that's fine.
But we want to, we want to shiftthe focus from being what people
focusing on like money, if you will, from a standpoint of
right, oh, this costs, yes, everything costs, right.
But we want you to focus on. The quality of your.

(01:54:07):
Time. Right.
Yeah, of that too. Yes.
Your time is your most valuable asset 100.
Percent. You're spending your time doing
all this laundry, right? We're sure we, we're, my goal is
to show people like, so we have kind of two client profile.
One client profile is the peoplewho have the money and know the
value of their time already, andthey're just like, hey, boom,

(01:54:30):
like, sign me up. Yeah, you guys come do our
laundry every once a week, everytwo weeks, whatever that is.
Boom, those people ready to go. That's the great, easy peasy
clients. The second is the people that
don't really realize that we arebasically, if you look at it
this way, your subscription or partnership with us is one step

(01:54:54):
closer to you getting to where you want to be financially to a
point to where you could you take, right.
Say if the average person spendsbetween probably, probably a
week, probably between 6:00, somewhere between 6:00 and 12:00
hours a week doing laundry, 100%, yeah.

(01:55:16):
So you don't realize. And that's when I say doing
laundry. People just think, Oh no, don't.
I put it in the machine and did not know you got to put in the
machine. You got to come back and check
on it, say if something didn't happen, like something,
something tends to happen. Oh, you forgot to put this thing
in there. You got to watch that right?
Or something got messed up, or you got to fix something and
then you got to, then you got todry all of this and then you.

(01:55:38):
Got to OR you got to hang shit up and then dry other shit.
Yeah, absolutely. All this stuff and then the
biggest part, which is the most fun part, everybody enjoys doing
this part of it, right, which isthe folding.
Everybody loves to fold right, because you got so much time to
fold right. So because you So The thing is,
is to show you like look insteadof you.
If you took most people, you canbe become an entrepreneur or do

(01:56:04):
some kind of side hustle betweenwith with two to five hours out
of your week that could bring inyou some extra.
Yeah, 100%. That that could probably triple,
quadruple, 10X the amount of money it would cost for you to
do your for us to do your laundry.
And that's what you're offering.And that's so and that's what
we're offering. And believe it or not, so future

(01:56:26):
wise, I'm literally working on putting something together to
where there's a blueprint to really like lay that out, like
lay that out like how how you can actually use your time to do
this. Like we'll have, I'm going to
put together that's. Genius.
Some white paper for people to be able to kind of like, hey,
just kind of like a kind of almost like an outline of it.
So you know. White paper and then kind of

(01:56:48):
open up an opportunity to hot out the house.
How to parlay your time you spend doing laundry.
Doing other things and. Then because of my, my business
acumen and the, and the different things that I've done
and what I have access to, I'm going to be putting that out
there to where hopefully some people are interested in that.

(01:57:11):
And again, I'm always working some other things that I that
I'm doing. No, I know you are.
I know you are. But that's, that's kind of like
the two profiles I'm trying to get.
We want to get to that point. So, but right now we're we're
offering really high end service.
Yeah, it is for sure products. We have you know, you're, you're
getting commercial, commercial quality washes.

(01:57:36):
Incredible. Yeah, way.
Better than your you know your residential machines that people
never because people don't realize this you need to service
your machine at home. People don't know anything about
emptying out because a lot of times if you ever have a
machine, you ever hear like it'slike water switching around.
That's old, still water just sitting.

(01:57:57):
You wonder like why my clothes? Like we make sure you don't have
to deal with any of that and youknow where you can still have
your machine at home. And believe it or not, most of
our clients have machines, but it's just.
The service that you provide theservice.
You get where you can. Like, yeah, you need to watch
something right away real quick.You can go ahead and do that,
but you know that your clothes are washed, folded.

(01:58:20):
And everything's done for you. And it's right there at your
doorstep. And it's worth every penny.
So that's so the goal is to to, to put more people on to that.
And what got us is moving in that direction because I was I
was looking into being in the laundry business for like over a
decade. So I got I got so close, so many

(01:58:43):
like probably about three times I was in the process of getting
a lease to a laundry to a laundromat and and something
fall through at the last minute.Sure happened about three times.
So finally I got my got got the current location we have and
where you know what, we've been kind of kind of in the business

(01:59:05):
in a sense for a while, But now we now we were able to kind of
get our own thing and brand and,and really grow and build it
out. And we are, you know, started
with this revolution because, believe it or not, like we're
not the only people that have done it, but the way we're doing
is a little different than most people do it because most.
It's different than I'm telling you.

(01:59:25):
I've done research. You do different than 90% of
other laundromats I've seen. Yeah, and I was doing it better.
And again, I appreciate that. I want to be clear like we're
not, we're not a laundromat, right?
We're laundry service, right? It's.
Service, I'm sorry, Yes, yes, you're a high end laundry
service. So we're laundry service.

(01:59:46):
So we have a facility commercialthat has some commercial
machines and stuff like that, right.
So you cannot come and sit and walk in and.
Yes. It's not like you go and you put
the detergent in and sit there. Yeah.
But what we are doing is starting, actually starting
this. This week is we're offering drop

(02:00:06):
off services so we we we're you know people who hold the drop
off yes. So we'll start taking drop offs
this week. We've taken drop off this week
where you basically can drop offbetween hours of like I'm going
to say like 7 and and like noon.So you have a window where you
can drop off in the morning if you.
Will and then pick up later. And then you'll pick it up

(02:00:28):
later. So we do morning because some
people may say some people may want same day service.
So if you come in, drop off at 7:00, then we can have it, you
know, you can come in, we can have it ready for you that
night, you know, that evening orsomething like that, which is
that obviously that's a more of a up, up up charge service, but
it'll be it's worth every. Penny, dude, for what you're

(02:00:51):
getting, come on. Yeah, so.
Getting all this good stuff. We, we know we're we're
providing these done for you. We pick it up, we take it back
to you and you can just do whatever else you need to do and
not really be concerned about that.
So that was a big thing for us and, and we, we're, we're.

(02:01:12):
You know, out we're, we're starting to get more and more
like I would probably pull up more and more clients a week.
And you've done great. It's been 3 months, you know,
January 18th, 3 months. I mean, you've come so far and
that's perfect. That's perfect.
Because I'll definitely be able to cut this up and make a nice

(02:01:32):
ad out of it. And I can target an older
demographic that maybe has more disposable income if you want,
if you want to get away from thecollege, so.
Here are some, here are some areas we could target right so
we are we can offer great services for people in 55 plus
communities. You want OK.

(02:01:53):
That's so easy, right? I just got a client of 55 plus
community, believe it or not, washing car covers.
I got a guy I met. I got my my new client.
He he collects he built a Mustang from like the round up.
Oh my God. This thing redid the whole

(02:02:14):
thing. It looks amazing.
So he has these like classic Mustang cars and he got these
covers that, you know, and if you're in the South, man, the
pollen is crazy here. So apologize.
I know it is. So the pollen is crazy and he
wanted to get his he wanted to get these covers, these car
covers. So that's just one way.
And he's in the 55 plus immunity.

(02:02:35):
Can't. We can do that.
So we're doing that. That's that's one client we we
can help disable clients. So I have a client I just
another client just picked up literally this week.
That that's. This person has a stackable
washer and they're having difficulty.
They they're like paralyzed on one side.
So we are offering we're we're going to be able to do that

(02:02:55):
laundry for them and they're they're just going to have to
put it away. So they haven't they're
struggling being able to you could imagine, right?
Yeah, they, they have to go through all this extra stuff.
No matter of fact, my apologies.They got one of these machines
where some people, most people hate them, right?
This is a big thing in New York,these combo machines.
Not, not not a stack. It's a combo machine where it
washes, drains, and then it dries.

(02:03:18):
Then it dries. I know exactly what you're
talking about. Or pain in the balls.
Some people thought it was a great idea, I guess if you.
On paper, it looked like a good idea.
Yeah, it definitely looked greaton.
Paper, but no, yeah, it's not practical.
They're they're not as practicalas people think.
I mean, if you can wash and you're going to be gone and you

(02:03:39):
only have one load of laundry and you're ghost you go to work
by the time you come back, they're dry.
Yeah, but that's it's just not that great.
So this person handicapped person.
So we can help people 55 plus community.
We can help people who have who have disabilities that have
trouble moving around. We can be resources.
We can be a part of your only parents that just can't do

(02:04:04):
things for themselves anymore aswell as they could back in the
day. So we can be a part of of your
team, your community that you build around your loved ones
that are in these, you know, whether they're in, you know,
assisted living facilities and things like that, because not
all of these. So you got to understand little
thing about assisted living facilities.
Some of these things are they have different levels and they

(02:04:28):
make you pay a little bit more for every little bit of every.
Little thing they do. The laundry up charge, you want
us to walk outside with you up charge.
It's just all these little things.
So now this can be taken off your plate.
We can. We work and now we also work
with facilities like that. We have partnerships.

(02:04:48):
With them the whole facility. So we can do that we can help
out teams that may need things. We could be backup.
We could be backup for people tohave on site facilities if
things go down. We're already provide the
emergency services. So we also just got, we just now

(02:05:13):
we have the ability we can do the, you know, the entry mats
that we want to doctor's office or so we do the mats, we could
do custom mats. OK, Well, basically we do mat
and towel services. So we can rent this, rent the
mats and the towels services, the rags and things like that to
bars, dental doctor's offices. So we have the commercial

(02:05:37):
component where we can help people in from a commercial
standpoint from, from with bar, bar bar mops, bar towels.
Right. To the runner rugs, to the entry
rugs, 3 by three by fives, 4 by sixes.
So we can help you and from a commercial standpoint, as well
as do your do your regular laundry and we can do certain

(02:06:04):
specialty garments like we're not there yet.
We'll be able to offer dry cleaning soon.
We're working on getting a dry cleaning partner.
All right. So we're, we're again, we don't
have a facility, but we're partnering with someone where
you're, where your dry cleaning will be done.
And we can, again, it's picked up for you.
Like most people still have to go to the dry cleaners when they

(02:06:25):
want to get stuff dry clean, especially since we're entering
this era where people are starting to go back into the
workplace, going back into offices.
Some people still have to start to dress up and stuff again.
So yes. So we offer all of these.
We have an array of services as you mentioned.
We have packages for college students for the amazing.
Yes. I was able to.

(02:06:46):
The, the way you do it, by the pound and everything, it's
crazy. I mean, yes.
We do about a pound. Beautiful as.
You mentioned that we do about apound very affordable.
You you're in about the $2.00 range of pound.
Yeah. But for pick up and delivery
service, you know, a lot of times you go drop it off, it's
still over $2.00 a pound for most people.

(02:07:07):
But we're we're giving you that pick up and delivery service for
either a very competitive, if not the lower price in our area.
We we're, we're, we, we've researched our competitors and
we're very we're either at or below their cost.
But a better service, yeah, but it's.
A much It's a much better service.

(02:07:27):
A much better service and thingslike that.
So that's kind of yeah. So what we can do?
I'll cut this up into an ad. We can target 55 plus.
We can target disabled handicapped people.
What county are you in? I want to target the county.

(02:07:48):
I'm in Orange County. OK, you're in Orange County.
I'm in. Orange County, what I would tell
you I would, I would target. Or would you rather do cities?
No, you you could do, you can do.
Well, I'm going to, I'm going torun it on, I'm going to run it
on Facebook, Instagram and probably LinkedIn.

(02:08:10):
So I can do couple cities and a county.
I can do, I can do college students on Facebook or
Instagram. I can do the older people.
Well, now the older people are on Facebook.
I can do the older people on Facebook and I can do the

(02:08:33):
county. I can do the younger people, the
college students on Instagram and do Chapel Hill and then
LinkedIn. I want to try to get some
businesses. Yeah, so I.
Would I think that's the way to go?
On LinkedIn, definitely the businesses, I would tell you,
believe it or not, I think I would just focus on the people

(02:08:57):
with the disposable income. So a higher income people,
because those people cover the other bases, because the older,
the people with the income or that have that, that are taking
care, they're taking care of their parents.
They have the income to do it. They're sending their kids to
college. They got an income.
Well, I want to make sure my kiddoesn't have to worry about
this. So.

(02:09:18):
If you focus on them, you'll getthe others right in my.
You're right. You're right.
Because they're all, they're allintertwined.
So yeah. And so we can do that.
Yeah. So I would say that now outside
of that, I would think. I can do 55 plus.
I think that we'll do we'll we'll just do it and see how it

(02:09:39):
does. We'll try it for everything and
then we'll try the county. We'll try the entire Orange
County if you want. Yeah, Orange.
You can do Orange County. I've been having a lot of people
in Chatham County, OK, Orange County, Chatham, OK in in

(02:09:59):
Durham, Durham, County Durham. Orange, Chatham and Durham.
Yeah, if you do Orange, Chatham and Durham, those are all, I
mean, how many counties will you?
Can you do up to or where you would you are you?
I'm going to do. I'm going to do, I'm going to
try to do 3. I'll try to do all three.

(02:10:21):
I'm just going to see what the cost is and how many impressions
we get. That's that's the only thing I
want to make sure we get enough impressions that it covers all
three. Got it.
Facebook. If it doesn't, then I'll split
it up and you know, I'll do you know Orange Chatham, you know,

(02:10:43):
between Facebook and Instagram and and do the older group.
Yeah, Nah, man, that's again that's greatly appreciate, I
think. I, I just, I think that's, I, I
think, you know, I think I, I can take 2 weeks and we can do 2
weeks and target the older demographic with the disposable
income, see if it pays off. And then if not, you know, we

(02:11:06):
can go back to the college students.
But I think with if this is a high end service, it's a high
end laundry service. So we need to target the people
with disposable income and the senior citizens, the disabled
people where you're, you know, you're, they can drop off their

(02:11:27):
laundry, have it wash, dried andfolded for them.
So I think. That's and you can have it pick
it picked up. Picked up right?
Picked up or drop so just is is the focus should be more on like
done for you service that people, because when people
people can drop off right, but Ijust want to we want to make it

(02:11:48):
as easy as possible. So my thing is make it easy for
people to say yes, like you meanto tell me you're going to pick
it up, you're going to do it andthen going to drop it back.
Yes, I'm yeah, right. That's that's the kind of where
we want to be some people still,you know, you get some older
people like, yeah, I could drop it off.
Like the client, the guy with the with the covers, he's like,
I could drop it off. And I was like I said, you can.

(02:12:09):
But we normally that's, this is all a part of the service we
pick it up for. You orange Chatham and Durham,
right OK, OK, 55 plus all right,I got I got that covered.
I'll, I'll cut this up into an ad and I'll try to get it

(02:12:30):
running by tonight. If there's anything else you
want, because I can put it in the blurb underneath, you can
e-mail it to me and I'll, I'll make sure it gets in.
I'll also run it as a post. So I'll, I'll post it everywhere

(02:12:52):
and then it'll it'll run as a separate ad targeting those
counties. Got it, Got it.
We'll, we'll see how we do with it.
So from what you've been, what you've done so far, like how do
you have, what have you seen in terms of impressions and things
like that, like? You're, you're getting great,
you're getting great numbers, you're getting great, you're
great. You're getting at least for the

(02:13:14):
last month, I mean, we've gottenover 10,000 impressions.
We get God close to 7000 clicks.So I mean, it's, it's working,
but it's been I've been targeting the college students.
So I don't know if they have been booking.
So going with the older demographic if with 10,000

(02:13:38):
impressions and those clicks youshould get better numbers.
OK, because I'm not like. Disposable income.
Yeah, because I'm trying to see,because I haven't really
noticed. Most of the people I'm getting
are older people. I got people finding me on like
some people been finding me on either Google or or.

(02:14:00):
Yeah, because your SEO is up, because I've posted so much and
you post so much, we've gotten your SEO up.
So your Google searches you, you, you come up near the top
and. What's the other Google and the
the one the red one, I can't Yelp.
So Yelp, Yeah. Your Yelp and your Google

(02:14:22):
ratings. I try to falsify your Google
ratings. That always helps.
Like if I have a Google account and I Google fresh Fold, I can
list it at five stars and write a review, but I have to do it
for five other companies or, or else they know that I'm just

(02:14:44):
doing it to help you. So I do we do Google or Google
reviews to try to help and we'vebeen trying to boost your SEO
with with the content and sharing.
Yeah. Have you done?
I haven't even seen any of the Have you done the Google
reviews? Have you done any yet?
Because I'm I'm trying to I I'vecreated a Google review link for

(02:15:08):
my clients to start to do but I'm still waiting for the some
of those to roll in. Oh, I have, I have.
They may have. They may have gotten a race
because I didn't do enough of them because if you, if you do
like 3 or 4, sometimes they don't keep them because they
know that you're trying to boostone business.
But I will, I will do more of them and I have, I have a couple

(02:15:33):
people who are going to help me with their Google accounts.
So we'll definitely get that rating up for you.
Great, great. But yeah, man, I mean man, I I
really appreciate coming on. I didn't you.
Know no, this was great this wasawesome we're going to we're
we'll have you on again we'll talk more UConn, this was this
was such a great conversation I'm so happy that I got a chance

(02:15:56):
to talk with you and I got I learned a lot and we are going
to promote the hell out of your business.
We're, we're on a, we just started on a national podcast
network. So that's going to be a big
help. And I can still focus on the

(02:16:17):
North Carolina area, but we're everywhere now.
So we're really, we're really growing.
And I am going to try to get Phil and Kevin to post something
on UConn site, UConn social media and UConn Plus about your

(02:16:39):
business. How did?
That go with the Yukon plus you guys got it or?
How Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're, we're starting up.
We're starting up probably by May, probably by May 1st.
He's got everything. We're just, we're transferring
everything to them. It just takes a while to load
all the podcasts. But Kevin Freeman is in charge

(02:17:03):
of alumni affairs, so he is going to help with the alumni
businesses that I've been working with, like you and
Procyon and Brunel, and that's going to be a big help.
He's trying. And then he also wants to play
student athletes with you to mentor, to help, you know, with

(02:17:24):
job applications and stuff like that.
So I'll work with Kevin Freeman and we'll, we'll get more from
him. We'll do the Google reviews,
we'll do the, we'll do these adsand target the 55 plus with
disposable income on all the social media sites.

(02:17:44):
And I mean, if, if, if it doesn't work, then I'll, I'll do
straight Google ads. Google ads and search engine
marketing is, is good enough. We can do that too.
So there's, there's a, there's acouple different things we can
try, but I think, I think targeting the 55 plus, you'll
see a bigger difference, yeah, than the college students.

(02:18:07):
Yeah, I think that that'll happen too.
I think the college students stuff eventually I got to get
to. So I did go to a few of the, I
went to a couple of frats and I went, oh, you did good.
And what I'm finding tonight, right.
So I asked, hey, you guys got a house manager, say, yeah, they
got a house manager. So then some of the people I

(02:18:27):
spoke to, I don't know if they did it or not, but they were
like, yeah, I can share this with the group.
I left a little flyer and it waslike, yeah, I could, I can take
a picture and share it. They have, I guess on all the
houses they have group chats on,you know.
Yeah, they do. They do.
So then they said, yeah, I can share this one in the group
chat. So I only went to like maybe
like 3 or 4 of the houses. There's a couple more I'm gonna
go to because yeah, those, thosekids there, I'm like, man, I'm

(02:18:52):
going to just kind of touch base.
And I only went on UNC's campus.So I'm going to try to see.
OK. I'm assuming Duke probably has
another one. You know how they probably have
someone? There we got, yeah, we got to
get to Duke. I'm going to try to get had to
go to Duke because Duke will be the place that has the
disposable income with their kids.

(02:19:13):
So they would be more more likely to spend that kind of
money. So we can, I mean.
All of the both of the schools, I mean UNC absolutely UNC and
but yeah, Duke is private. So for sure I definitely I think
it's a thing I have to what I have to do is get a hold of like

(02:19:34):
the people that do student life.And I thought about this when I
was there and I know I think I saw I got to get a hold of the
people that do like the campus tours and the people that put
that I can get that. For you current Ed's wifes
friend does that. She does the campus tours.
She works for Rez Life and she works in admissions, so she's.

(02:19:56):
But she's at UNC Charlotte though, right?
Yeah, but she's got friends downat UNC and so I'll try to get
you connected with them as well.So we can.
Do that because once. We can get, if we can get
basically one of the slot because the parents, the kids
are there. They just pay attention to
school. The parents are looking at the
parents are holding the the package.

(02:20:17):
Yeah, the parents are holding the Oh, OK, this looks good.
Oh, you mean to tell me we can get laundry done for the whole
semester? Yeah, Let me go ahead and pay
for that now, right. The parents will go ahead and do
that and we'll get and if I get,you know, each semester you get
a couple dozen parents to do that.
That's great, right? That you know, and you give a
kid one wash a week and which isnot bad at all.

(02:20:41):
And what happens is if I could get in, then when I can't, once
you see like people like the service, then the campus will be
more open to like, oh, we'll letyou get a drop off area, right?
Absolutely. On campus, so I can maybe get a
room on campus or something, getsomething where maybe I can rent
it or whatever on them from them.
But then. Absolutely, yeah.
Something to get built out to where Oh, they have this locker

(02:21:02):
service. Where there where we can put it
dry? Locker, you get it in there, it
comes get picked up, we pick it up, you know, once a week or
whatever, whatever day that is aweek and we're and we're off to
the races. So that would be great.
All right, I'll, I'll talk to Ed.
Let me get to work on this so I can get this up and we'll target

(02:21:26):
the older demographic. We'll try it for two weeks and
see how it works. We'll see if it makes.
A difference and we'll target those 3 counties.
When? We should have been.
I'm going to try to put it up tonight.
I'll try to cut it up and I'll try to put it up tonight.
Yeah, soon as I'm done here. I just have to.

(02:21:47):
I got to get going because I gotanother show, but I will get
this up and we'll get this rolling and it'll be posted as a
post on all everywhere else and then it'll also run as a as a
paid ad. So you'll see it as a post and
then you should see it as a paidad on some of the other sites.

(02:22:08):
Got it. All right.
Appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me on.
And we'll, no, we'll, we'll haveyou on again for sure.
You were great. Thank you for doing this.
Take care all. Right later.
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